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Just imagine, if after Infinity, the Marvel books suddenly all started with the movie origins in the books. It would mean the last 8 years of the Dark Ages of Marvel were the death throes of heroes...

I have a real disinterest in Marvel Comics right now. There is nothing that makes the books unique and non-conformist. They have plots which mimic themselves again, in that they are rehashes of...

That is more of what I think Moore left as his legacy, yes.

Judging from the Watchmens movie, Tony Starks Stark Risilient by Fraction is like Adriens Doctor Manhattan free power generation, Millars CW had elements of the Watchmen mob protests against super...

Yes I have heard other reports of Moore's involvement in the art direction of Watchmen, now that you mention it. The Poetry of it all may be very good, and as you say, the dark dark tale, which went...

I see it that the craftmanship, storytelling style, is less the influence and the subject is, in the CW case. But maybe people are seeing the similarity in subject matter between CW and Watchmen and...

Thanks. That sounds very much like the movie. The only thing I get out of that is that super heroes became too much of a problem and had to be suppressed, so that they retired, were put in mental...

That's not how people are describing it. They are saying Moore did it first and better. What first and what better? That's not about craftmanship. It's about dirty super heroes, isn't it? That's...

That doesn't really answer my question. I am not getting all Alan Moore's Watchman comics just to get an idea of what was the trope that others took up. Is it the real world super heroes are...

But once Heroic Age started, hasn't the government reversed the SHRA and loosened the reign on the super heroes? Shouldn't we be seeing more love from the government towards super heroes since HA...

That would be my take on what CW did to Iron Man, not that Iron Man was promoted to take advantage of the Movie.

That may be true if it was written like that. Spiderman issue #1 had him swing onto a crashing capsule and rescue John Jameson, and if he failed Jameson would be dead anyway, so no biggy.

My...

The UC would be something like Ultron Corp.

Not like Doctors, Police, Soldiers, Firefighters, no. Those people are structured and trained, as service personell. This gets to the whole root of what the super hero/vigilantes tradition is all...

Most of those I can explain away, except your statement that the government knew Tony Stark was a drunk and still put him in charge. That one I never registered at the time. I can't say why, when a...

I just wonder why Marvel never took it to it's eventual conclusion, of only having registered super humans. In a way, I think they did achieve that, without making an army of them, yet, not...

So your basing your whole dismissal of the CW as a laziness on the statement that "this one is more serious", and you can't believe that? The whole premise of the story was that the government ran...

That could happen if the new Present timeline followed mostly what happened up to CW. But what if the Ragnarok didn't happen at Avengers Disassembled, and Odin was never left in Limbo? It would...

One thing Events do is, they invoke anticipation when they bring it out as individual issues. OGN's wouldn't. I think Marvel will get a surprise that though they went to the trouble to compile...

That may be so, but what if Wanda did invent Those Who Sit Above In Shadow. It would totally retcon that episode of events. It either means Wanda invented those people, or just made Thor visit them...

I suppose it could be done, in which case AU isn't happening at all, and by the end of this, someone is going to come up to Logan in the new present, and say, "That's enough Marc. You have to come...

Thank you.

I'm just back tracking the Latveria/Asgard War as referenced in the new present. Odin is in charge of Asgard, so for Doom and Le Fey to defeat Asgard they have to defeat Odin.



There is also...

There was a connection to that Ragnorak because the Thor issues of that were Avengers Disassembled. If Wanda caused Ragnorak because she went crazy, then that is how Odin got into Limbo?

I don't know what Ultron has as contingencies for the Builders and Incursions, but I am left with this strategy by Ultron. Ultron decides that it is the right time to wage war on the the humans in...