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DoubleWide
12-28-2005, 11:08 AM
Whike reading the news crawl during The Fox Report last night, it mentioned J. K. Rowling plans to release the last Harry Potter novel next year. I wonder if they mean 2006, or since this year is nearly over if 2007 is a more likely date? Either way, I can hardly wait!
in the interview J.K. said she is starting to write it beginning in January; I'm thinking 2007 for the actually publication.
Dennis K
12-28-2005, 02:17 PM
Which book is it that Harry is told that it is his ability to love or that love is what saved him from Voldermort? If it is his ability to love that is his great weapon against Voldermort, could it be that it means he will be willing to sacrifice himself for others and that he will, in fact, die at the conclusion of the series, or am I reading too much Narnia into the whole thing?
Nate C.
12-28-2005, 02:43 PM
Dennis,
I don't think you are reading too much into it.
Dumbledore also said one of the main differences between Harry and Tom was Harry's ability to love. Now, with Snape, he's going to have to learn to forgive.
Mark my words, "love and forgiveness" will be Harry's biggest challenges in book 7.
Parallax48
12-28-2005, 02:48 PM
Which book is it that Harry is told that it is his ability to love or that love is what saved him from Voldermort? If it is his ability to love that is his great weapon against Voldermort, could it be that it means he will be willing to sacrifice himself for others and that he will, in fact, die at the conclusion of the series, or am I reading too much Narnia into the whole thing?
It's love, not his ability to love. Harry's mother sacrificed herself to save him, so the love is what kept Harry alive.....as part of his very skin...or something similar to that. In Sorcerer's Stone, Professor Quirell is sharing a body with V and his skin starts to blister when he touches Harry. The problem is that in Goblet of Fire, since V uses Harry's blood as part of his regeneration process, he can touch Harry again. This doesn't mean that Harry can't sacrifice himself mind you, just not through the love that exists within his skin as an older, more powerful magic. Of course his ability to love is probably what would make him willing to sacrifice himself for his friends.
Doodle Bob
12-29-2005, 07:31 AM
Mark my words, "love and forgiveness" will be Harry's biggest challenges in book 7.
I think this is probably correct. While hunting down Voldemort and his horcruxes (as well as the mysterious RAB), Harry will most likely struggle with maintaining his friendships as well as figuring out what to make of Snape. I am sure that he will discover the real reason why Dumbledore trusted him so intrinsically and will need to forgive Snape and possibly even Malfoy in order to defeat Voldemort in the end.
As for Harry sacrificing himself, there are just too many clues thus far that he will survive the series. For one, the prophecy (if true) seems to indicate that in the end one entity (either Harry or Voldy) will be left standing. My personal theory is that Harry won't kill Vold so much as somehow envelop and hence control the remaining 1/64th of Voldy's soul. It's just too banal for Harry to outright kill him.
Secondly, we know the last word of the book is "scar" which would seem to indicate that Harry's body is still intact.
Finally, I don't want him to die. I want him to defeat Voldemort and hook back up again with Ginny. Somehow, though, I think this last point is the least compelling...
Infinity Chameleon
12-29-2005, 08:17 AM
Personally, as I said in a previous thread, since Prince only came out in July and the seventh book is the last, I really think mid-2007 is the earliest it could reasonably come out. JKR said she was tired doing the first four one after the other, each being a year apart. That's part of why Phoenix took so long; she took close to a year off after Goblet. With the need to make Book Seven as close to perfect as possible to cap off the series, expecting it any time in 2006 is in my mind a fool's game, especially if she hasn't started it yet.
Frankly, I wouldn't be surprised if mid-2007 is optimistic. So long as it gets here before 2009 I'll be happy. But I'll read it whenever it comes out, whether that means 2009 or 2020.
Nate C.
12-29-2005, 03:29 PM
I think this is probably correct. ...
I think this may be the first time we've ever agreed on anything. :p
I too, hope Harry lives. I actually think seeing Harry as an older, wiser wizard working as a (what's that role where they seek out and hunt down bad wizards?) would be a lot of fun.
Light and fun.
Dennis K
12-29-2005, 03:47 PM
I think this is probably correct. While hunting down Voldemort and his horcruxes (as well as the mysterious RAB), Harry will most likely struggle with maintaining his friendships as well as figuring out what to make of Snape. I am sure that he will discover the real reason why Dumbledore trusted him so intrinsically and will need to forgive Snape and possibly even Malfoy in order to defeat Voldemort in the end.
As for Harry sacrificing himself, there are just too many clues thus far that he will survive the series. For one, the prophecy (if true) seems to indicate that in the end one entity (either Harry or Voldy) will be left standing. My personal theory is that Harry won't kill Vold so much as somehow envelop and hence control the remaining 1/64th of Voldy's soul. It's just too banal for Harry to outright kill him.
Secondly, we know the last word of the book is "scar" which would seem to indicate that Harry's body is still intact.
Finally, I don't want him to die. I want him to defeat Voldemort and hook back up again with Ginny. Somehow, though, I think this last point is the least compelling...
I didn't know that, where did you learn that? :confused:
I think this may be the first time we've ever agreed on anything. :p
I too, hope Harry lives. I actually think seeing Harry as an older, wiser wizard working as a (what's that role where they seek out and hunt down bad wizards?) would be a lot of fun.
Light and fun.
I've been listening to Book 5 and, following Rowling's comments that by the end of the series readers will have a good idea what the characters become (if they survive), I think Harry will train as an auror but then become the DADA teacher at Hogwarts and be the first one to remain in the position for more than one year since Voldemort's conversation with Dumbledore.
Nate C.
12-29-2005, 05:33 PM
I've been listening to Book 5 and, following Rowling's comments that by the end of the series readers will have a good idea what the characters become (if they survive), I think Harry will train as an auror but then become the DADA teacher at Hogwarts and be the first one to remain in the position for more than one year since Voldemort's conversation with Dumbledore.
that sounds good to me, Puma.
I'm still wondering about Ron though. Unless he really steps up in Book 7 I can't see him as more than a clerk at his brothers' shop. Of course, he might not survive.
kmeyers
12-29-2005, 07:28 PM
I have heard her say that one of the "big three" will definitely die...whether she sticks to that or not will remain to be seen.
I also think it would be cool to see Harry as an Auror, teacher of the DADA classes, and eventually become headmaster at Hogwarts, and take over for Dumbledore. There are SO many stories that could be told no matter what happens(unless Harry dies, of course). I just don't see her killing off Harry though.
Ron's most likely the one to go. Maybe with Ron gone, Harry and Hermione will get together...or maybe it will make him realize that their time here is precious, and he should not waste anymore of it and he'll be with Ginny.
DLH1970
12-29-2005, 07:56 PM
I've always figured that Ron would be the one to go, too. So of course I'm sure that means Hermione will be the one.
kmeyers
12-29-2005, 08:32 PM
I've always figured that Ron would be the one to go, too. So of course I'm sure that means Hermione will be the one.
heh...isn't that how it always is? They never pick the obvious one, because it's too obvious. But then, now that we think it can't be Ron because he's too obvious, it must be Hermione...but now that it must be her, and there's no way it can be Harry it must be him...AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
*head explodes*
Whoever it is, I hope they go out in a blaze of glory!
Emerald Ghost
12-31-2005, 01:16 PM
http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20051228/ennew_afp/afpentertainmentbritain
This will answer your questions. :)
I WANT TO READ IT NOW!!!!
Parallax48
01-01-2006, 04:45 PM
Whoever it is, I hope they go out in a blaze of glory!
Man, there are going to be so many great fights/battles at the end of the that book. I wouldn't be suprised if more than just one of the "big three" go out in a blaze of glory.
Emerald Ghost
01-01-2006, 05:33 PM
If Mcgonnogal (how do you spell her name??) dies, who would be Headmaster, do you think?
Probably that Slitherin guy who took over after Snape did what he did last book.
Infinity Chameleon
01-01-2006, 07:02 PM
If Mcgonnogal (how do you spell her name??) dies, who would be Headmaster, do you think?
Probably that Slitherin guy who took over after Snape did what he did last book.
Horace Slughorn.
Honestly, I'm not sure he'd want the responsibility. Yes, he definitely likes being surrounded by influential people, and influencing them, but he doesn't seem to me to be the type who'd want to be directing people outright; just "helping them along", so to speak.
Though, if McGonnagal did bite the bullet he could be thrust into the job regardless of what he might prefer.
Emerald Ghost
01-01-2006, 07:09 PM
Horace Slughorn.
Honestly, I'm not sure he'd want the responsibility. Yes, he definitely likes being surrounded by influential people, and influencing them, but he doesn't seem to me to be the type who'd want to be directing people outright; just "helping them along", so to speak.
Though, if McGonnagal did bite the bullet he could be thrust into the job regardless of what he might prefer.
Thanks, I have a dreadful memory with names.
I agree that he doesn't like the limelight, but I don't see anyone else who could. :(
That actually scares me...we don't want Umbridge or someone sneaking in. :eek:
Infinity Chameleon
01-01-2006, 07:21 PM
Thanks, I have a dreadful memory with names.
I agree that he doesn't like the limelight, but I don't see anyone else who could. :(
Flitwick or Sprout would be the most likely, being house heads, then would most likely be any other teachers with long-standing tenure.
Emerald Ghost
01-01-2006, 07:24 PM
Flitwick or Sprout would be the most likely, being house heads, then would most likely be any other teachers with long-standing tenure.
I know they've been there for a while, but... I mean, do you really see them as headmaster? They don't really seem to have an air of authority, y'know...
Could any of the Order of the Phoenix do it? *trying to think of anyone who would have the skill and knowledge*
Lupin? He used to teach.
Infinity Chameleon
01-01-2006, 07:41 PM
Yeah, but Lupin's a werewolf. Though he might have the votes from any students who remained from the year he *did* teach he'd still have to get by the Board of Governors and the British wizarding public at large. Tall order at best; impossible at worst.
I've wondered about Moody being a possibility though. He did seem to be regretful in Phoenix that he didn't actually get to teach, and I think JKR once hinted in a pre-Phoenix interview that he might come back to Hogwarts at some point.
Emerald Ghost
01-01-2006, 07:46 PM
Yeah, but Lupin's a werewolf. Though he might have the votes from any students who remained from the year he *did* teach he'd still have to get by the Board of Governors and the British wizarding public at large. Tall order at best; impossible at worst.
I've wondered about Moody being a possibility though. He did seem to be regretful in Phoenix that he didn't actually get to teach, and I think JKR once hinted in a pre-Phoenix interview that he might come back to Hogwarts at some point.
Moody would be great as well. It's a shame about Lupin being a werewolf and everyone knowing about it. That sucks.
Now I'm getting this image of Tonks as headmaster. LOL, cute. She'd be falling down stairs all the time.
*edit to add that I'm kidding about Tonks, of course. She'd never make a good headmaster really. :) Moody would though, the more I think about your suggestion, the more I like it.
darichard
01-09-2006, 10:03 AM
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LordAllMighty
01-20-2006, 04:36 PM
I have heard her say that one of the "big three" will definitely die...whether she sticks to that or not will remain to be seen.
I have the strangest feeling she going to kill Harry and then some how return him from the dead. While it would be clichéd, she would be keeping her word.
Emerald Ghost
01-20-2006, 04:45 PM
I have the strangest feeling she going to kill Harry and then some how return him from the dead. While it would be clichéd, she would be keeping her word.
*cough*phoenix*cough*
kmeyers
01-20-2006, 04:52 PM
I have the strangest feeling she going to kill Harry and then some how return him from the dead. While it would be clichéd, she would be keeping her word.
Man, I hope not.
And I forget the exact wording of the prophecy, but Voldemort and Harry can't both live. One of them has to die. I'm guessing that would be Voldemort, and if he dies, I doubt she'd kill off Harry too.
Emerald Ghost
01-20-2006, 04:57 PM
Man, I hope not.
And I forget the exact wording of the prophecy, but Voldemort and Harry can't both live. One of them has to die. I'm guessing that would be Voldemort, and if he dies, I doubt she'd kill off Harry too.
Theory:
When Voldemort killed Harry's mum and dad (causing a split of his soul) and then attacked Harry, combined with the ancient magic of Love cast on him by his mother, Harry became an inadvertent horcrux.
When Harry dies, it destroys that horcrux, Voldemort is killed, and Harry is reborn somehow. Or stays dead. I dunno.
kmeyers
01-21-2006, 08:57 PM
Theory:
When Voldemort killed Harry's mum and dad (causing a split of his soul) and then attacked Harry, combined with the ancient magic of Love cast on him by his mother, Harry became an inadvertent horcrux.
When Harry dies, it destroys that horcrux, Voldemort is killed, and Harry is reborn somehow. Or stays dead. I dunno.
If he dies, I hope he stays dead. That's why I hope he doesn't die. There are so many more potentially great stories for adult Harry.
Book 6 spoilers:
I love Dumbledore, but I hope he stays dead. I'm sure he sacrificed himself for a reason. For love(just as Harry's mother did)? For Harry to be able to defeat Voldemort in the end?
The Son of Arzonist
01-22-2006, 01:48 AM
Theory:
When Voldemort killed Harry's mum and dad (causing a split of his soul) and then attacked Harry, combined with the ancient magic of Love cast on him by his mother, Harry became an inadvertent horcrux.
When Harry dies, it destroys that horcrux, Voldemort is killed, and Harry is reborn somehow. Or stays dead. I dunno.
Yeah, thats the theory i came up with. I don't think Voldemort ever tried to kill Harry in the first place. I just hope all the dead characters spirits dont reappear to lend Harry their power to defeat Voldemort. That would be lame.
Sean Whitmore
02-05-2006, 02:11 AM
I just finished reading Half-Blood Prince tonight, and at this point, I think I'll only be satisfied with one of two endings for the series:
1. Harry kills Voldemort and lives, and the last chapter of the book shoots ahead 100 or so years to show Harry as Headmaster. Then Rowling can return to the Hogwarts universe in future books, dropping the Harry Potter and... from the titles, and use Professor Potter as a supporting character in some other students' adventures. Not unlike Orson Scott Card's Ender series.
2. Harry kills Voldemort's body, only to realize he is the final Horcrux, and Voldemort still lives inside him. With 100% of his remaining soul, V is able to possess Harry's body, as he couldn't do in Book 5. Without hesitation, Harry
tells Voldemort that he's been defeated by the power of love, and he puts the tip of his wand against his own head and kills them both. In the near future, Hermoine is the professor of History of Magic at Hogwarts, and we see her teaching her students about the selfless legend of Harry Potter, "The Boy Who Died". And with that, Rowling never revisits the series.
Then again, what the hell do I know. I only started reading the series for the first time about a month ago. :)
SEAN
this doesn't have anything to do with the ending but we were talking horcruxes in the other thread: the diary, Nagini, the ring, the pendant, then we possibly have the cup and then something from Ravenclaw - which leaves something out from Gryffindor if Voldemort retained the seventh part in himself. Everyone thinks of the sword but what about the Sorting Hat? According to it's song it was Gryffindor's; and then when Voldemort and Dumbledore meet in the headmaster's office it was hinted that Voldemort may have done something.
I just don't think Harry is a horcrux at all, especially since Voldemort was trying to kill him in the first place.
Magneto_X
02-05-2006, 07:45 PM
I just don't think Harry is a horcrux at all, especially since Voldemort was trying to kill him in the first place.[/COLOR]
Harry could be a horcrux but Voldomort doesn't *know* he is.
Although it would be lame.
handOFfate
02-07-2006, 11:09 PM
Everybody i've talked to assumes that Harry is a Horcrux. It would almost seem too obvious at this point. The sorting hat is a pretty good guess, though.
If one of the big three is going to die, it's gonna be Ron. It would have a considerably larger emotional impact than Hermione dying. I sometimes wonder that if Hermione hadn't become such a popular character in the movies, she might not have become such a big character in the books.
I wonder who the Defense against the Dark Arts teacher is going to be in Book seven? I think it would have to be a new character, since I can't really think of an existing character who would make sense at this point.
maraxus60
02-08-2006, 07:28 AM
I sometimes wonder that if Hermione hadn't become such a popular character in the movies, she might not have become such a big character in the books.
of course Hermione would have been just as popular since the first 3 books were done by the time the first movie ever came out
she has always been a part of the books
no matter how popular she became because of the movies she was still one of the 3 top characters in the series
LordAllMighty
07-23-2007, 09:37 PM
01-20-2006, 02:36 PM
I have the strangest feeling she going to kill Harry and then some how return him from the dead. While it would be clichéd, she would be keeping her word.
Just wanted to pointed out how right I was.:D
I made this prediction almost a year and half ago.:)
Sean Whitmore
07-23-2007, 10:46 PM
2. Harry kills Voldemort's body, only to realize he is the final Horcrux, and Voldemort still lives inside him.
Turns out I was partly right too.
SEAN
OzBat!
07-24-2007, 01:13 AM
I said Snape and a twin would bite it in a poll over at the Leaky Cauldron site.
LordAllMighty
07-24-2007, 10:20 AM
LOL, we should start up our own psychic network.:) :D :) :D
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