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DanH

12-22-2005, 09:38 AM

I mean think about it,...If he started going at superspeed he would rip any normal being to shreads,...The only one that would be able to stay with him I think is Wonder Woman.

Indigo Al

12-22-2005, 09:53 AM

Granted I'm not a regular poster in this board, but haven't we discussed "Man of Steel, Woman of Kleenex" to death and beyond already?

Romus

12-22-2005, 09:57 AM

Have you ever heard the joke about Superman, Wonder Woman, and the invisible man?

DanH

12-22-2005, 10:12 AM

Have you ever heard the joke about Superman, Wonder Woman, and the invisible man?
No,..Care to share?

Romus

12-22-2005, 11:13 AM

Hope I'm not going too far for these boards...

To keep it short (im not good at telling jokes anyway) Superman is flying over the beach one day, looks down and sees Wonderwoman laying nude with her legs open .. Superman thinks if he uses his super speed he could be in an out of there in just a few seconds. A few seconds later Superman flies off satisfied. Wonder Woman suddenly senses something is wrong and says "Are you okay, you stopped moving all the sudden ... .hello?" The invisible man says, "My butt... may butt is killing me all the sudden!!"

Romus

12-22-2005, 11:19 AM

A friend just called me on the phone before I go on my trip and we got into a conversation about relationships, and sex.. then he said, "I remember when I was younger and when asked, would i give up sex to have the powers of Superman, I said no way! But now, after having had sex more often, I would do it in a heartbeat!" :)

So would you give up Sex forever to have the powers of Superman?

glennsim

12-22-2005, 11:22 AM

I mean think about it,...If he started going at superspeed he would rip any normal being to shreads,...The only one that would be able to stay with him I think is Wonder Woman.

People like to make all kinds of jokes, but I think conventional wisdom is that just as Superman can hug and shake hands with people, he has enough control over himself to have sex without hurting anyone. Worse case scenario, he doesn't really get to enjoy it as much because he has to keep things under control.

Or if you want to insist on including involuntary responses, he manages to not cause sonic booms when he blinks, so he must have enough control to keep himself from doing anything bad even involuntarily.

Personally, despite what I'm sure are various examples to prove me wrong, I like my theory - developed to explain why Clark on "Smallville" can pick up a car, but strains to toss a haybale around - that other than being invulnerable, Superman's powers don't work unless he "turns them on," thus allowing him to do human level things without problems.

Now, there are various theories on what would happen if Lois got pregnant, relative to how powerful the baby would be while inside her. But that's a different discussion.

666MasterOfPuppets

12-22-2005, 11:43 AM

People like to make all kinds of jokes, but I think conventional wisdom is that just as Superman can hug and shake hands with people, he has enough control over himself to have sex without hurting anyone. Worse case scenario, he doesn't really get to enjoy it as much because he has to keep things under control.

Or if you want to insist on including involuntary responses, he manages to not cause sonic booms when he blinks, so he must have enough control to keep himself from doing anything bad even involuntarily.

Agreed.

Personally, despite what I'm sure are various examples to prove me wrong, I like my theory - developed to explain why Clark on "Smallville" can pick up a car, but strains to toss a haybale around - that other than being invulnerable, Superman's powers don't work unless he "turns them on," thus allowing him to do human level things without problems.

I've always wondered something. Superman stated once that he can't feel what hitting someone is like, because of his invulnerability. So, can he feel anything when he has sex? I mean, he is invulnerable...

As for the "he turns his powers on", do I see a contradiction here? I pretty much doubt it. When his powers started to grow without control, he couldn't "turn them off". And it's been stated several times that he must have absolute control of his powers, so he doesn't kill anyone. If that weren't true, the whole "Superman holds back" issue would no longer be a problem.

Now, there are various theories on what would happen if Lois got pregnant, relative to how powerful the baby would be while inside her. But that's a different discussion.

Indeed. But I think he would be much less powerful than a pure Kryptonian.

mattx110

12-22-2005, 02:16 PM

might be a 2decade old spoiler

in "whatever happened to the man of tomorrow?" alan moore let him have a kid with lois who had the powers,but at the time of conception, clark didn't have the powers but with the way the powers show up, as a baby, without being in sunlight yet, the kid would still have years before he develops any powers. so, he wouldn't go kicking through anyones womb.

glennsim

12-22-2005, 03:29 PM

Agreed.

I've always wondered something. Superman stated once that he can't feel what hitting someone is like, because of his invulnerability. So, can he feel anything when he has sex? I mean, he is invulnerable....

Theoretically "no", but one could argue that he doesn't know what *truly* hitting someone is like because it hurts your fist to hit someone. It doesn't hurt, but that doesn't mean he's numb, it just doesn't hurt. Ergo he could feel sex, since it wouldn't extend into the "pain" category (unless Lois got freaky).

As for the "he turns his powers on", do I see a contradiction here? I pretty much doubt it. When his powers started to grow without control, he couldn't "turn them off". And it's been stated several times that he must have absolute control of his powers, so he doesn't kill anyone. If that weren't true, the whole "Superman holds back" issue would no longer be a problem.

Sorry, I should have said "or if you don't like the 'always holding back' theory, there's also the notion that he turns his powers on..."

Alternately, one could argue that rather than having to exert control in the sense that he doesn't squeeze someone too tightly when he hugs them (to use a less provocative example than a sexual act), he exerts control in the sense that he keeps his powers from activating when he squeezes them, allowing him to only offer a human-level squeeze.

Which would still allow his powers to be a bit "out of control" as a kid - he had to learn how to turn them off.

Indeed. But I think he would be much less powerful than a pure Kryptonian.

It has been presented a number of ways - all powers, but at half level, only some powers but at full level, different powers, etc.

GUTB

12-22-2005, 03:37 PM

Sabrinaset

12-22-2005, 03:54 PM

Gives a whole new meaning to the phrase "Up, up, and away!"

bfrank

12-22-2005, 03:55 PM

Ravenheart

12-22-2005, 03:57 PM

Have you ever heard the joke about Superman, Wonder Woman, and the invisible man?

I've heard that one many times but its always great :D

protege

12-22-2005, 04:03 PM

Superman probably has no interest in sex in the same way a human would. He could, but just wouldn't care to unless it was to interact normally with other humans (ie, maintaining a marriage with Lois).
seems to me there's a lot of people out there who feel just the opposite...

Pariah128

12-22-2005, 04:59 PM

Supermans only passive power is invulnerability, everything else is active, in other words..he can control his strength, etc.

Unbreakable

12-22-2005, 05:13 PM

Supermans only passive power is invulnerability, everything else is active, in other words..he can control his strength, etc.

Except for his pre-mature ejac***tion problems :D .

Ontir

12-22-2005, 05:27 PM

As of his "Byrne-ing" he certainly does. He went away with Cat Grant on a long weekend, early on (back when Lois was dating Jose Delgado), and I'm certain that his relationship with Lois has long been consumated. I'm also sure that Clark and Lana (on Smallville) have had sex more than just the one time when he was de-powered!

Deskad

12-22-2005, 06:05 PM

He had sex with Lois in one issue I remember reading. The one from the Jim Lee drawn comics.

Lorendiac

12-22-2005, 07:09 PM

A long time ago I tried to cover all the basic possibilities regarding what would happen if Superman tried to reproduce. For instance, some of these possibilities involve trying to get Lois Lane pregnant.

Superhero Reproduction (Part 10): Interspecies Mating (http://forums.comicbookresources.com/showthread.php?t=54369)

If you don't want to go read a few thousand words on the subject, I'll try to boil down the basic possibilities quickly. Most of them have been used in one story or another (Armageddon 2001, Elseworlds, or whatever).

1. Lois would get pregnant; it would go normally; after birth, the baby would only gradually acquire Kryptonian powers the way Clark gradually did according to Byrne's "Man of Steel" mini.

2. Lois would get pregnant and probably die tragically when the partially formed embryo started kicking and stuff. (This happened in an Armageddon 2001 annual.)

3. Lois would get pregnant and would seem to be doing okay until the strains of childbirth, which would kill her, but the child would survive.

4. Assume using Lois is out of the question - so use a superstrong mother instead. Maxima or Wonder Woman or someone. Then the pregnancy will be successful even if the baby does kick hard from time to time.

5. Do the whole thing in test tubes and "artificial wombs" and so forth. The way the modern Superboy was created at Project Cadmus by splicing Superman DNA and Luthor DNa together, and then rapidly grew from "embryo" size to "adolescent male" size in a tank or something, without ever being carried to term inside a woman's womb.

6. As Larry Niven explained in "Man of Steel, Woman of Kleenex," the sexual act would kill a normal Earthwoman on the spot for various reasons. Making the question of whether or not she could have gotten pregnant a purely academic point.

7. The local environment could be modified to make the whole thing much safer. Keep Lois saturated with red solar radiation for the next nine months, for instance. ("Superman/Batman: Generations" did it that way, IIRC.)

8. They might have sex successfully - but of course there would never be a pregnancy no matter how hard they tried, because Clark and Lois are from entirely different species that developed in different solar systems, and if humans can't even crossbreed with apes or monkeys, how could they possibly crossbreed with Kryptonians who aren't even distant genetic cousins of homo sapiens?

I then made the point that the Official Policy on this subject among DC editors appears to be: "We refuse to have an ironclad Official Policy on this subject!" Because they've given the green light to various stories that touched on this subject and blatantly contradicted one another in various ways. No one at DC seems to feel there's any need to make all the writers stick to one hard-and-fast set of rules on what exactly would happen if Lois got pregnant, for instance.

cactusmaac

12-23-2005, 03:59 AM

He can probably take a whizz without pushing toilets through walls, so he probably has the super-control to enjoy sex.

RawShark

12-23-2005, 08:12 AM

Hey, for all we know, Kryptonians might not even have the same kinda plumbing we do.

666MasterOfPuppets

12-23-2005, 11:02 AM

Theoretically "no", but one could argue that he doesn't know what *truly* hitting someone is like because it hurts your fist to hit someone. It doesn't hurt, but that doesn't mean he's numb, it just doesn't hurt. Ergo he could feel sex, since it wouldn't extend into the "pain" category (unless Lois got freaky).

Hmmm... I don't know. Although what you said kinda makes sense (it's comics after all), I had always thought that invulnerability was a person's incapacity to feel anything. I mean, the nervous terminals serve for both pain and pleasure, right? So, it would seem logical to assume that if said person can't feel pain, then he can't feel pleasure either...

Sorry, I should have said "or if you don't like the 'always holding back' theory, there's also the notion that he turns his powers on..."

Alternately, one could argue that rather than having to exert control in the sense that he doesn't squeeze someone too tightly when he hugs them (to use a less provocative example than a sexual act), he exerts control in the sense that he keeps his powers from activating when he squeezes them, allowing him to only offer a human-level squeeze.

Which would still allow his powers to be a bit "out of control" as a kid - he had to learn how to turn them off.

That would be another way to put it.

It has been presented a number of ways - all powers, but at half level, only some powers but at full level, different powers, etc.

I see. Sounds like there are several possibilities, then. However, I like to believe in Lorendiac's eighth possibility: they just can't have kids.

davids

12-23-2005, 02:32 PM

It brings Superman and Wonder Woman back together as best friends again. how can you stay mad at the woman who saved the life of your wife and baby. Takes Wonder Woman out of the piture for a while. lets her sister take over for her while she is expecting. superman and lois can have a daughter in real time so we have stories for the next twenty years than we can rebot. can even be trained by her aunt diana.

And best of all with a duaghter Clark can still be the last son of krypton.

Erebus

12-23-2005, 09:23 PM

Kind of OT: In DBZ, Goku is like Supes in the aspect that since he's super-strong, he would theorectically kill anyone he tries to have sex with. Yet he managed to have sex with Chi Chi without killing her, and even produced two healthy sons, Gohan and Goten.
Also, in Kingdom Come, Nightwing and Starfire also manage to have a child. Yet that should have killed Nightwing, if things got a little bit kinky.
So, if these two examples show us anything, then I suppose that aliens can have sex with each other, regardless of the streagth of one of the parents. But I'm not really an expert on this subject, and I might be completely wrong.

Spike-X

12-25-2005, 03:21 AM

Superman probably has no interest in sex in the same way a human would. He could, but just wouldn't care to unless it was to interact normally with other humans (ie, maintaining a marriage with Lois).
I doubt that. All living creatures have some kind of mating urge. Else there wouldn't be any.

samuraizero

12-25-2005, 04:25 AM

Ontir

12-31-2005, 04:43 PM

Hey, for all we know, Kryptonians might not even have the same kinda plumbing we do.

If he didn't, his highschool experience would've been mortifying, which might explain the bumbling Clark Kent!

prand_2002

01-01-2006, 05:26 AM

Well he could lie on his back and let Lois do all the work.

Max_Dillon

01-01-2006, 01:30 PM

I'm also sure that Clark and Lana (on Smallville) have had sex more than just the one time when he was de-powered!

He'd need his head examined if he only hit that once.

monkeyjunkie

01-01-2006, 02:29 PM

Well he could lie on his back and let Lois do all the work.

very true, if lois was to be on top, then supes super strength/speed wouldnt come into play, and assuming he doesn't have super pissing that blows toilets through walls he shouldnt have some super ejaculate either, or at least he could controll it. His invunrability shouldn't stop him from feeling pleasure either, as invunrability is only the inability to get hurt, which is why he can't feel pain, but he should still be able to feel pleasure as its not damaging so hes not "invunrable" to it.

VietN

01-01-2006, 11:10 PM

He can probably take a whizz without pushing toilets through walls, so he probably has the super-control to enjoy sex.

This reasoning trumps all!

666MasterOfPuppets

01-02-2006, 04:54 AM

He'd need his head examined if he only hit that once.

Indeed. Lana's really hot.

Supes35

01-02-2006, 05:51 AM

Yes, Superman can make love to a human female, without hurting her. Its already been shown that he and Lois do have an active sex life. They were shown in bed together in Superman #217 or Superman #218, right after Verheiden started writing for the comic.

I also think they were together in Superman #212, right after he reunited with Lois for the first time in nearly a year.

So, yes, Superman and Lois Lane can make love with each other.

The only question is, can Lois have a kid by him.

666MasterOfPuppets

01-02-2006, 06:03 AM

The only question is, can Lois have a kid by him.

I pretty much doubt it.

I like to think that his DNA is completely incompatible with that of humans.

glennsim

01-03-2006, 11:38 AM

I pretty much doubt it.

I like to think that his DNA is completely incompatible with that of humans.

Despite the fact that he looks exactly like a human, at least on the outside, and presumably enough on the inside not to have any problems with health exams growing up?

DMike

01-03-2006, 11:47 AM

Hell even most apes have 98-99% the same DNA as humans. It's not hard to believe that Kryptonians are as compatible to humans as a monkey.

kane

01-03-2006, 12:01 PM

Hell even most apes have 98-99% the same DNA as humans. It's not hard to believe that Kryptonians are as compatible to humans as a monkey.

Well, but apes are our relatives, we and apes are earth born. Supermans DNA is alien.

And apes and humans cannot interbreed.

Black Atom

01-03-2006, 12:34 PM

And apes and humans cannot interbreed.

Oh?

http://content.answers.com/main/content/wp/en/d/d5/Liefeld01.jpg

666MasterOfPuppets

01-03-2006, 12:55 PM

Despite the fact that he looks exactly like a human, at least on the outside, and presumably enough on the inside not to have any problems with health exams growing up?

Perhaps he didn't have any health exams?

Obviously, no one could analyze his blood, nor would Ma and Pa allow it.

NormanB

01-03-2006, 01:27 PM

Kryptonians reproduce via mitosis.

Duh.

jadegiant77

01-03-2006, 05:55 PM

yeesh, is this topic old. Clark had sex with Lois Lane. Lois Lane is not dead. Ergo, Superman can do the deed. 'nuff said.