Can the Hulk pick up Thor's hammer?

[mcgaffer]

Can Hulk get mad enough to break the enchantment and lift Thor's hammer?

[Jake V]

Nope. He's not worthy.

[Sharcque]

I'd say 'yes'. If allowed to get mad enough and uninterrupted, then 'yes'.

[Sentry]

thor's hammar is not a question of weight in the sense that we see it. its a little like excalibar, the sword in the stone. only the worthy may lift it, i know captain america has lifted it at least once.

[mcgaffer]

True, but i think the Hulk can get to a level where he's just too powerful for the enchantment. I have heard, but not seen, that Hulk can punch through the barriers between dimensions if he's angry enough. Also remember an enchantment is not finite, it is only as powerful as the person who cast it. I know it was Odin that cast it and he's got skill with magics and power to back it up, but if left alone to just grow madder and madder the Hulk can lift the hammer, Hulk has no limit to his power, Odin does.

[Jake V]

True, but i think the Hulk can get to a level where he's just too powerful for the enchantment. I have heard, but not seen, that Hulk can punch through the barriers between dimensions if he's angry enough. Also remember an enchantment is not finite, it is only as powerful as the person who cast it. I know it was Odin that cast it and he's got skill with magics and power to back it up, but if left alone to just grow madder and madder the Hulk can lift the hammer, Hulk has no limit to his power, Odin does.
Yeah, but I'm pretty sure that Hulk would get knocked out long before he got angry enough to put the hurt on Odin.

[Modi]

i read somewhere that Gaea , thor's mom could lift the hammer using her telekinesis.

other then that only odin (the one who gave the hammer the enchantment) and anyone who was worthy could lift the hammer.
yes even thor has to be worthy , just look at the reigning.

also that future's king thor was able to lift the hammer using the odinforce(but then again this king thor destroyed captain america's shield with one blast, THAT'S POWER).

[DDM]

After Beta Ray Bill was granted the power of Thor because he was worthy, Odin made Thor's enchanted hammer more specific in that only Thor can wield his own hammer.

[The Lucky One]

In the Marvel Universe, magic always trumps science. For instance, if the Juggernaut (can't be stopped) ran into the Blob (can't be moved), the Blob would move. In the same way, the Hulk can't lift Thor's hammer. Until we get a story indicating otherwise, that's my final answer.

-D

[Dr. Banner]

"Future Imperfect" and the "Myth Conceptions" storyline especially (Hulk 421-423) show that the Hulk can't lift Thor's Hammer. Nothing to do with weight, as Rick Jones said, he was just never worthy.

[Ravenheart]

thor's hammar is not a question of weight in the sense that we see it. its a little like excalibar, the sword in the stone. only the worthy may lift it, i know captain america has lifted it at least once.


I remember when Cap lifted it but I can't remember what issue it was in.

[mattbib]

After Beta Ray Bill was granted the power of Thor because he was worthy, Odin made Thor's enchanted hammer more specific in that only Thor can wield his own hammer.Didn't Captain America lift Thor's hammer after that?

[riotgear]

After Beta Ray Bill was granted the power of Thor because he was worthy, Odin made Thor's enchanted hammer more specific in that only Thor can wield his own hammer.

Then how did Eric Masterson wield it?

[DOVETAILS]

"2099 manifest destiny" captain america uses it. As does spidey 2099(for a very long time)after him. Until..

[ghostrider666]

The short answer, no.

[Gaz]

I'd say "Yes, but it depends on why he's trying". If he's trying to save Betty from Doom, then probably. If he wants to smash the US army, then probably not.

[DOVETAILS]

:rolleyes: I'd say it's up to bendis ;)

[sherlockbones]

"Future Imperfect" and the "Myth Conceptions" storyline especially (Hulk 421-423) show that the Hulk can't lift Thor's Hammer. Nothing to do with weight, as Rick Jones said, he was just never worthy.


yeah, but the hammer seemed kinda "out of magic". because if you remember it wasn´t much used as weapon. i think it was a gimmick.

if i remember correct, drax the destroyer lifted the hammer in infinity gauntlet. and that is a good comparison.

but in the ends it is always > who writes the story

[Expletive Deleted]

I'd say it's up to bendisAll snark aside . . . yeah, it is. Or whoever else is writing the comic.

This sort of situational detail depends more on the writer and the necessities of the plot than on the past continuity.

[Dr. Banner]

yeah, but the hammer seemed kinda "out of magic". because if you remember it wasn´t much used as weapon. i think it was a gimmick.

When the Hulk grabbed Thor's hammer (while faux Thor was still holding it) in 422, the Hulk was all "See? You're not the real Thor. If you were, I wouldn't be able to hold this up" and then Thor let go, the hammer crushed the Hulk's hands as it fell, and the Hulk muttered "I think I broke my fingers".

The Hulk has never been a truly pure and good hero. Sure, he usually has the best intentions, but, the lengths he'll go to accomplish some of them are questionable. He's not worthy, plain and simple. Nothing wrong with that.

[Wannabe]

I'd say that Bruce Banner might be able to lift it.He's a pretty good guy.

[BlackKnight]

It is totally based on if someone is worthy.
Cap can do it, Beta Ray Bill could do it, and Eric Materson, but I think that has more to do with him being part of Thor for so long.
Aside from that only Odin was able to lift it.

All other either use telekinisis or lift the ground up around it...

Sorry Hulk/Bruce Banner probably could not do it, based on current continuum.

[sherlockbones]

It is totally based on if someone is worthy.
Cap can do it, Beta Ray Bill could do it, and Eric Materson, but I think that has more to do with him being part of Thor for so long.
Aside from that only Odin was able to lift it.

All other either use telekinisis or lift the ground up around it...

Sorry Hulk/Bruce Banner probably could not do it, based on current continuum.

what about drax? i am pretty sure he did it in infinity gauntlet much to thor amazement.
similar hulk strenght level, but maybe his childish mind made him "pure" enough.

[A.Warlock]

Drax tried lifting it during Blood & Thunder and only got about to his knees, and that was with the Power Gem helping him. Hulk wouldn't stand a chance.

[sherlockbones]

Drax tried lifting it during Blood & Thunder and only got about to his knees, and that was with the Power Gem helping him. Hulk wouldn't stand a chance.

ahh, thx
knee or not, lift is lift :D

but help me out. when did that happen again? after infinity gauntlet, war or even crusade :confused:

[Expletive Deleted]

Just after CRUSADE.

[BlackKnight]

ahh, thx
knee or not, lift is lift :D

but help me out. when did that happen again? after infinity gauntlet, war or even crusade :confused:

If he has the strenght Gem, then it would after Infinity Gauntlet, probably during Infinity War. Just my guess.

However, the gem is cosmicly powered and could help to counter act the geas on the hammer. Take the Gem away and more then likly Drax could not lift the hammer at all.

[Kid Kyoto]

True, but i think the Hulk can get to a level where he's just too powerful for the enchantment. I have heard, but not seen, that Hulk can punch through the barriers between dimensions if he's angry enough. Also remember an enchantment is not finite, it is only as powerful as the person who cast it. I know it was Odin that cast it and he's got skill with magics and power to back it up, but if left alone to just grow madder and madder the Hulk can lift the hammer, Hulk has no limit to his power, Odin does.

Uh... what?

Hulk's just a human who got exposed to some radiation. His power has an upper limit. The whole madder hulk get stronger hulk get, hulk strongest one there is thing is just rhetoric, not (pardon my misuse of this term) fact. Even if you buy into it the fact is you can only get so mad. After that you just plateu.

I think the upper limit of Odin, a millennia old Norse God with cosmic power is quite a bit higher than a 97 pound weakling with a radiation burn.

now if you're asking about a Celestial picking up the hammer...

[FlameOn4]

Hulk tried to lift it in issue 3 of the Avengers. But he couldn't, no matter how much he tried.
Wonder-woman picked it up in Marvel vs DC, and she got a hot outfit.
I would like to see Spider-man with Thor powers.

[Loestal]

I don't know what the focus on strength is all about. His hammer has never been "if your strong enough" physically....but mentally and morally. Physical strength has nothing to do with it...it's about heart and crap like that, unless they have stated otherwise...if so then I will shut up, but that's how I remember it working.

[Gandalf 127]

"Future Imperfect" and the "Myth Conceptions" storyline especially (Hulk 421-423) show that the Hulk can't lift Thor's Hammer. Nothing to do with weight, as Rick Jones said, he was just never worthy.
If The hulk was able to lift something as special as thor's hammer, like 1 of the guys said on top, king Arthur's excalibur cold have been lifted by any random knight. imagine that :D

[sherlockbones]

I don't know what the focus on strength is all about. His hammer has never been "if your strong enough" physically....but mentally and morally. Physical strength has nothing to do with it...it's about heart and crap like that, unless they have stated otherwise...if so then I will shut up, but that's how I remember it working.

it CAN be lifted with brute force as we allready said. drax did it with a celestial infinity gem boost

[Dr. Banner]

I can't believe this topic has lasted three pages! :eek:

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