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Emerald Ghost

12-19-2005, 06:25 PM

The Quicklist

Cancelled Title
Renamed Title
New Title

Ongoing Series

Action Comics
Adventures of Superman (becomes Superman)
Aquaman (becomes Aquaman: Sword of Atlantis)
Batgirl
Batman
Batman: Gotham Knights
Birds of Prey
Blood of the Demon
Blue Beetle (new title)
Catwoman
Checkmate (new title)
Detective Comics
Firestorm (becomes Firestorm: The Nuclear Man)
Flash
Gotham Central
Green Arrow
Green Lantern
Hawkman (becomes Hawkgirl)
Ion (new title)
JLA (becomes Justice League of America)
JLA: Classified
JSA
JSA: Classified
Legion of Super-Heroes (becomes Supergirl and the Legion of Superheroes)
Manhunter
Nightwing
Outsiders
Plastic Man
Robin
Shadowpact (new title)
Supergirl
Superman
Superman/Batman
Teen Titans
Wonder Woman

Mini-Series

52 (new title - maxiseries)
Infinite Crisis Aftermath: The Battle For Bludhaven (new title - miniseries)
Infinite Crisis Aftermath: The Spectre, Dead Again (new title - miniseries)
Secret Six (new title - miniseries)

The In-Depth List

Cancelled Title
Renamed Title
New Title

Ongoing Series

Action Comics (http://www.newsarama.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=49805)
by Johns/Busiek/Woods

Adventures of Superman (http://www.newsarama.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=49805) (becomes Superman)

Aquaman (http://www.newsarama.com/dcnew/Aquaman/swordofatlantis.htm) (becomes Aquaman: Sword of Atlantis)
by Busiek/Buice

Batgirl

Batman (http://www.newsarama.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=49805)
by Robinson/Kramer/Champagne

Batman: Gotham Knights

Birds of Prey
by Simone/Sigueira/Riggs

Blood of the Demon
by Byrne/Pfeifer/Byrne/Green

Blue Beetle (http://www.newsarama.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=50609) (new title)
by Giffen/Rogers/Hamner

Catwoman (http://www.newsarama.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=52812)
by Pfeifer/Lopez/Lopez

Checkmate (http://www.newsarama.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=51755) (new title)

Detective Comics (http://www.newsarama.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=49805)
by Robinson/Kirk/Clarke

Firestorm (http://www.newsarama.com/dcnew/Firestorm/FirestormDuds.htm) (becomes Firestorm: The Nuclear Man
by Moor/Igle/Champagne

Flash

Gotham Central

Green Arrow (http://www.newsarama.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=52626)
by Winick/McDaniel/Owens

Green Lantern
by Johns/Reis/Campos

Hawkman (http://www.newsarama.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=50224) (becomes Hawkgirl)
by Simonson/Chaykin

Ion (http://www.newsarama.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=50350) (new title)

JLA (http://www.newsarama.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=53008) and here (http://www.newsarama.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=53278) (becomes Justice League of America)

JLA: Classified

JSA
by Moore/Gulacy/Palmiotti

JSA: Classified (http://www.comicbookresources.com/news/newsitem.cgi?id=6349)

Legion of Super-Heroes (http://www.newsarama.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=52337) (becomes Supergirl and the Legion of Superheroes)
by Waid and Kitson/Greg

Manhunter
by Andreyko/Pina/Blanco

Nightwing (http://www.newsarama.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=52054) and here (http://www.comicbookresources.com/news/newsitem.cgi?id=6176)
by Jones/Dodd/Bit

Outsiders (http://www.newsarama.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=52900)
by Winick/Clark/Thibert

Plastic Man

Robin (http://www.newsarama.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=51253) and here (http://www.comicbookresources.com/news/newsitem.cgi?id=6352)
by Beechen/Kerschl

Shadowpact (http://www.newsarama.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=51142) and here (http://www.comicbookresources.com/news/newsitem.cgi?id=6352) (new title)

Supergirl (http://www.newsarama.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=50488)
by Rucka/Churchill

Superman/Batman (http://www.newsarama.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=47623)
by Verheiden/VanSciver

Superman (http://www.newsarama.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=55097)
by Johns/Busiek/Woods

Teen Titans
by Johns/Daniel/Hope

Wonder Woman

Mini-Series

52 (new title - maxiseries)
Infinite Crisis Aftermath: The Battle For Bludhaven. (http://www.newsarama.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=53353) (new title - miniseries)
Infinite Crisis Aftermath: The Spectre, Dead Again (http://www.newsarama.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=53353) (new title - miniseries)
Secret Six (http://www.newsarama.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=50426) (new title - miniseries)

Paul Newell

12-19-2005, 06:52 PM

Great list E.G. :)

BTW, Wonder Woman is on the cancellation list...It ends with #226.

Emerald Ghost

12-19-2005, 06:54 PM

Great list E.G. :)

BTW, Wonder Woman is on the cancellation list...It ends with #226.

True, but I was leery of doing that because Dan Didio kind of teased about it, toying with the words "end of run" etc...so I am not sure if they will renumber? :confused: Or rename?

I am very confused.

Paul Newell

12-19-2005, 06:59 PM

True, but I was leery of doing that because Dan Didio kind of teased about it, toying with the words "end of run" etc...so I am not sure if they will renumber? :confused: Or rename?

I am very confused.
Same thing with JLA, though. I'd just put it, for the moment, as being cancelled.

Emerald Ghost

12-19-2005, 07:00 PM

Same thing with JLA, though. I'd just put it, for the moment, as being cancelled.

Good point. What's up with JLA: Classified? Haven't heard a word about it...

Kevinroc

12-19-2005, 07:01 PM

Good point. What's up with JLA: Classified? Haven't heard a word about it...

It's still gonna be published. The title tells different stories in continuity so it doesn't really matter. We're about to start a Gail Simone arc that takes place before Countdown.

Emerald Ghost

12-19-2005, 07:05 PM

It's still gonna be published. The title tells different stories in continuity so it doesn't really matter. We're about to start a Gail Simone arc that takes place before Countdown.

List adjusted. Thank you! :)

SuperManny

12-19-2005, 09:36 PM

Ron Marz on Kyle Rayner = sold

I'm glad the writer is back to his original character.....and even happier he's going to write the next chapter in his life!

*hopefully it ties to the GL Corps title someway though....*

Mon-el

12-19-2005, 10:29 PM

Manhunter
Batwoman (? sometime next year)

Emerald Ghost

12-20-2005, 04:19 AM

Manhunter
Batwoman (? sometime next year)

Do you have a link? Thanks. :)

Beta Ray Bill

12-20-2005, 04:37 AM

Firestorm is being renamed Firestorm: The Nuclear Man as of issue #23.

Paul Newell

12-20-2005, 05:19 AM

Do you have a link? Thanks. :)
Batwoman was only rumour until the character was revealed as appearing in 52, according to the Wizard article. No idea if or when she gets her own title.

But Manhunter is an ongoing title with no changes, (apart from storyline).

Mon-el

12-20-2005, 05:23 AM

Do you have a link? Thanks. :)

Judging by your list of Super-Hero Books.

Since Manhunter has ties with Identity Crisis, O.M.A.C. Project, and Villians Untied. It wouldn't be left out in the mix.

Plus March Solicits (http://www.comicbookresources.com/news/newsitem.cgi?id=6310) basically says it in the solicits. Like it did for Firestorm and the rest.

MANHUNTER #20
Written by Marc Andreyko
Art by Javier Pina & Fernando Blanco
Cover by Jesus Saiz
It's One Year Later…and Manhunter's shocking new strategy makes her infamous in the eyes of heroes and villains alike!
On sale March 22 o 32 pg, FC, $2.50 US

Batwoman (http://www.comicscontinuum.com/stories/0510/16/index.htm) was announced on October 16, 2005, but no news of Creative Teams or if the statement has been retracted.

Lorendiac

12-20-2005, 01:32 PM

Batwoman (http://www.comicscontinuum.com/stories/0510/16/index.htm) was announced on October 16, 2005, but no news of Creative Teams or if the statement has been retracted.

I've looked at that page before, but I'm not nearly so sure as you are that this constituted anything resembling an Official Announcement.

All that page of comic book "news" says on the subject is one short sentence:

* DC Comics will launch a Batwoman title next year.

But it doesn't give any source for that information.

Which is interesting, because the tidbit immediately above that Batwoman line is a piece of news which explicitly claims to come from an interview with artist Casey Jones. And the tidbit immediately below that "Batwoman" information claims to be an announcement by Dynamite Entertainment. But the Batwoman tidbit is totally sourceless - just a sentence that pops up out of nowhere without any visible means of support.

Although I want this to be true about a new Batwoman title, I suspect that tidbit may have simply been a case of someone parroting the rumor that Rich Johnston had started a few weeks earlier in one of his LITG columns (http://www.comicbookresources.com/columns/index.cgi?column=litg&article=2258) right here on CBR.

Nick Kal

12-20-2005, 02:18 PM

New JLA this June written by Brad Meltzer.

Mon-el

12-20-2005, 03:21 PM

Although I want this to be true about a new Batwoman title, I suspect that tidbit may have simply been a case of someone parroting the rumor that Rich Johnston had started a few weeks earlier in one of his LITG columns (http://www.comicbookresources.com/columns/index.cgi?column=litg&article=2258) right here on CBR.

Yes, I read the LITG Rumour when it first came out. That site I listed, unfortunately, seems to be the only one on the net saying that about a Batwoman Title. When it broke it didn't stop fans speculating on who will be the Batwoman in YABS Thread (http://forums.comicbookresources.com/showthread.php?t=86189&highlight=Batwoman+Title+Confirmed). I can only go by whats listed, it's not like I'm making any of this up. Actually, I read just about every thread in every forum on CBR.

I could debate about Batman Legends of the Dark Knight (which follows it's own continuity mostly, and no mention so far as to how it ties into One Year Later) and JLA Classified (follows its own Continuity) being on that One Year Later list. If you include them you need to include All Star Batman, All Star Superman, for next year. Along with Non Powered DCU stars like The Warlord, Jonah Hex, Sgt Rock(which are set in their own timelines).

Blood of the Demon is also another One Year Later book according to March's Solicits. It's a book I no longer read. I quit at Issue 6. So I have no clue to what is happening in that book.

BLOOD OF THE DEMON #13
Written by John Byrne & Will Pfeifer
Art by Byrne & Dan Green
Cover by Byrne
It's One Year Later…and two Etrigans are battling the Lord of the Damned!
On sale March 1 o 32 pg, FC, $2.50 US.

And this News which I seen on Death Spiral thread.

Even more Infinite Crisis details revealed.

(Copy and pasted, don't blame me).

----

DC Comics jumps ahead "One Year Later" in March- Here are 22 books to keep your eye on

The Flash

DC holds to a firm "no comment" when it comes to the future of the Fastest Man Alive.

Specture: Dead Again

A new Spectre rises in this three-issue mini-series by Pfeifer and artist Al Barrionuevo (Gotham Knights), but he's not the most willing Spirt of Vengeance. "He barely believes in the afterlife and wants no part of the Spectre's concept of Divine Justice," says Pfeifer. "Too bad he has no choice in the matter."

Wonder Woman

While hot-babe uber-artist Terry Dodson (Spider-Man/Black Cat) has been confirmed as being part of the amazing Amazon's post-Infinite Crisis plans, DC has yet to release and information on either the writer or direction of the book. But the publisher promises both announcements will make major waves, so stay turned.

Concerning Wonder Woman, Flash, and a Spectre Mini.

Emerald Ghost

12-20-2005, 05:03 PM

Manhunter, Justice League of America, and Blood of the Demon are added!

Other titles are perhaps just rumors? Please let me know what everyone thinks of adding them. I would prefer not to post rumors or things that are "coming next year some time" because they change quickly.

Thank you!!! :)

Leon Thomas

12-20-2005, 07:14 PM

Looks like I'll be adding Checkmate and possibly Ion to my list of books. Secret Six as well but I hope it becomes an ongoing and not just a mini-series.

protege

12-20-2005, 07:26 PM

Has Blood of the Demon been cancelled? or was that Doom patrol?

Emerald Ghost

12-23-2005, 09:09 PM

Has Blood of the Demon been cancelled? or was that Doom patrol?

Blood of the Demon is still around, at least in March. Doom Patrol I do not see listed. So perhaps it is gone? I wish I could be of more help. The solicits for Teen Titans mention the DP though so maybe they will appear there?!

*also I have updated info with more links and titles. Let me know of any additions I should make. And why didn't anyone tell me I'd forgotten 52?? :)

Chris Thomas

12-25-2005, 07:48 AM

Emerald Ghost

12-25-2005, 07:53 AM

here is request from a lazy poster--could you post the creative team also next to the title? man i'm lazy

and how about turning this into a poll and seeing what titles people are going to pick up?

I see this dc 'rebirth' as a way of revamping/upgrading/starting anew on my pull list. anyone else?

Okay, but I'm going to need some help with this! I have a poor memory. If anyone knows the creators, please let me know. :)

I will be looking for info in the links.

Chris Thomas

12-25-2005, 08:50 AM

I'll get this started

supergirl and legion--waid and kitson/greg

outsiders winick/clark/thibert

teen titans johns/daniel/hope

jsa levitz/morales/melkis/ross (luke ross)

manhunter andreyko/pina/blanco

hex gray/palmiotti/luke ross

green lantern johns/reis/campos

hawkgirl simonson/chaykin

green arrow winick/mcdaniel/owens

firestorm moor/igle/champagne

blue beetle giffen/rogers/hamner

birds of prey simone/siqueira/riggs

aquaman busiek/buice

blood of the demon byrne/pfeifer/byrne/green

action comics johns/busiek/woods

superman johns/busiek/woods

superman/batman loeb/mcuiness/vines---not sure if this is relaunched or what?

supergirl rucka/churchill

robin beechen/mcguiness/vines

nightwing jones/dodd/bit

catwoman pfeifer/lopez/lopez

batman robinson/kramer/champagne

detective comics robinson/kirk/clarke

my spelling is bad. author(s) first then artist(s)

Emerald Ghost

12-25-2005, 09:17 AM

klobbersaurus

12-25-2005, 01:48 PM

I saw it on your first post, and then again on the second updated list. Is this true? I though it was Scott McDaniel? And Adam Beechen was writing it. But you have Rick Vietch down as writer

Emerald Ghost

12-25-2005, 03:08 PM

I saw it on your first post, and then again on the second updated list. Is this true? I though it was Scott McDaniel? And Adam Beechen was writing it. But you have Rick Vietch down as writer

Not sure, I'm going my Chris' information.

Does anyone know or have a link?

Chris Thomas

12-25-2005, 04:05 PM

I am wrong---

mcguiness and vines are only doing the cover. the artist is kerschl

what happened is that for that comic, they listed the cover artist(s) first, then the interior artist second--they didn't do that for they other year later stories (took it out of previews.)

btw--the cover looks pretty cool.

(this is right out of 'previews' for the march 22 release of robin 148 --the apparent first 'one year later' issue.--page 67)

Sean Walsh

12-25-2005, 04:49 PM

I saw it on your first post, and then again on the second updated list. Is this true? I though it was Scott McDaniel? And Adam Beechen was writing it. But you have Rick Vietch down as writer

Beechen is the new writer. And Scott McDaniel's moving over to GREEN ARROW. Karl Kerschl, currently on ADVENTURES OF SUPERMAN, is taking over art for ROBIN.

Chris Thomas

12-25-2005, 06:47 PM

other titles that I forgot:

jsa classified moore (stuart)/gulacy/palmiotti

I am unclear what jla classified is going to do--right now , they are lagging way behind continuity (still with no hal jordan, etc. ) so I think that the jla classified in previews is actually lagging also--i.e. not a 'year later' story

also, I know that shadow pact will start up and I'm sure I saw it in previews. it is willingham writer obviously. but I can't find the artist.

likewise--checkmate--what is up with this?

strange and mysterious missing titles--flash and wonderwoman. hm. I really strongly suspect they are going to change the most. like a new flash and a new wonderwoman?

one more--batman: legends of the darkknight -- is not listed as 'one year later' so.. not sure

Reggie Swats

12-25-2005, 11:32 PM

Why are they cancelling Superman and renaming Adventures of Superman "Superman"? It doesn't make much sense to me.

Dil

12-26-2005, 12:41 AM

Originally there was superman and action comics : they are simply going back to the original numbering, which is fine with me.

Emerald Ghost

12-26-2005, 08:44 AM

Two questions.

How does the list look now? Did I get the creators right? Let me know if I didn't, as I said, I am very bad with names. :)

Second...does Legends of the DK skip one year forward? I thought it told stories from any time about Batman...

Emerald Ghost

12-26-2005, 09:08 AM

Firestorm is being renamed Firestorm: The Nuclear Man as of issue #23.

I will make that change right now. I am very sorry I missed your post the firs time! My apologies. :)

RabidWolfe

12-26-2005, 09:23 AM

Chris Thomas

12-26-2005, 09:32 AM

I don't think anyone is saying ww is cancelled-dc just has detailed what is happening to it. i.e. relaunch? different woman as ww? on a different earth maybe? I think they are keeping flash and ww secret (and jla along with them) to hide some suprise

batman: lotdk--the previews spot on it looks alot like the jla classified--somewhat nebulous and clearly not involved in 'one year later' stories

also--vines is not a regular interior artist on robin--I had that wrong. just kerschl

Emerald Ghost

12-26-2005, 09:33 AM

Wait -

DC can't cancel Wonder Woman! And not because I like the title. Legally, they can't.

According to the contract made with Charles Moulton Marston, if DC ever stops publishing a comic named "Wonder Woman" all rights to the character immediately revert back to his heirs.

I doubt DC would want to lose a money maker like WW.

No doubt there'll be a revamp/retitle/something in the works. As for not being able to stop publishing her, I believe that used to be the case, but is no longer as DC bought the rights to her in total? Someone will have to correct me if I am mistaken.

Emerald Ghost

12-26-2005, 09:36 AM

Will.S

12-26-2005, 10:50 AM

Any more info on the Ron Marz Kyle Rayner Green Lantern? I'm interested to see if they come up with a better Ion design for Kyle because quite frankly that first one blew chunks.

Plus I think it's good for him to get out of the shadow of the whole GL Hal thing and be a powerful hero in his own right.

RabidWolfe

12-26-2005, 05:50 PM

No doubt there'll be a revamp/retitle/something in the works. As for not being able to stop publishing her, I believe that used to be the case, but is no longer as DC bought the rights to her in total? Someone will have to correct me if I am mistaken.

Well, according to Wikipedia, that contract is still in effect. I can't find anything that says differently anywhere.

Emerald Ghost

12-26-2005, 05:53 PM

Well, according to Wikipedia, that contract is still in effect. I can't find anything that says differently anywhere.

In that case, my mistake. :) How often does it have to be published to keep rights to her?

Tom

12-26-2005, 07:16 PM

Well, according to Wikipedia, that contract is still in effect. I can't find anything that says differently anywhere.
Wikipedia is incorrect on this one. In fact, I'd go so far as to say that it's the most common comicbook urban legend cited online. It was true at one time but DC bit the rights to her outright and are no longer beholden to the previous arrangement. This has been confirmed by several pros for years now, most notably Kurt Busiek.

Chris Thomas

12-26-2005, 07:33 PM

I am gonna say though that they are not cancelling it. the evidence is strong that althought there MAY be a gap, DC is hiding some major IC suprises.

otherwise, why, in march, is there not Flash, WW or JLA solicited?

Beta Ray Bill

12-29-2005, 04:58 AM

As of issue #27 Mark Verheiden and Ethan Van Sciver will take over as the ongoing creative team on Superman/Batman. Here's the link:

http://www.newsarama.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=47623&highlight=Mark+Verheiden+on+Superman%2FBatman

Emerald Ghost

12-29-2005, 03:54 PM

Paradox

01-04-2006, 10:44 PM

Legion of Super-Heroes (becomes Supergirl and the Legion of Superheroes)

You're...kidding. Please tell me you're kidding.

**rubs temples**

MAAAAAAAAARRRRRK!

Geez, that couldn't have gone more a way I didn't want. I'm totally against solidly connecting the Legion to our century. I never wanted Kara to come back in the first place, and really hate this new teen idol version.

Not that I'll drop the series because of it, but that title's just going to make me go "Grrrrr..." every time I see it.

Here's hoping it's a temporary hype deal.

Jukka Laine of Finland

01-06-2006, 03:15 PM

About the Wonder Woman urban legend here:
http://goodcomics.blogspot.com/2005/06/comic-book-urban-legend-revealed-1.html

Leon Thomas

01-18-2006, 10:38 PM

When is Justice League of America, replacing JLA, coming out? Nothing in March or April as far as I can tell. Anyone know what's up?

Lex

01-18-2006, 11:09 PM

They said it'll be out in June.

vinnybushes

01-18-2006, 11:39 PM

I think there might be some misleading stuff in this thread, beause I know that while the flash ends with the next issue it relaunches a few months later at number one. So technically its not being cancelled just relaunched after a short hiatus. I pulled that information right out of either the actual issue or the back page of todays flash so I know its true.

greenarrow_29

01-21-2006, 03:46 PM

cool stuff i think im goin to pick up the check mate :D

Zip

01-21-2006, 04:04 PM

No more Batgirl? CRUD! Is DC going to refund my mail order subscription?

DDM

01-21-2006, 04:16 PM

No more Batgirl? CRUD! Is DC going to refund my mail order subscription?

Usually, when something like this happens, the company will either give you the option of receiving another book or return your money.

Lex

02-05-2006, 11:22 PM

They're not being cancelled for sales reasons. Later in the year, DC plans to launch "Batman: Confidential" and "Superman: Confidential" series, with rotating creative teams like the Classified books. And rather than add two more monthlies, they cancelled two to make room.

For some reason, Paul closed the thread on the DC board instead of merging it into this one. But I wanted to respond to Loren's post anyway.

I don't think DC has confirmed those two "Confidential" books. So far, they're just Lying in the Gutters rumors at this point. Just FYI.

mohammedali

02-06-2006, 04:40 AM

It's cofirmed as 52 and no longer 52*. You might want to change that on the first post.

Chris Thomas

02-10-2006, 03:51 PM

so no ongoing shazam title? that is interesting. of course, there isn't one now. I actually think a modern shazam title with the whole family might be interesting. I here there is a mini in the works that won't be 'in continuity'

Lex

02-10-2006, 05:26 PM

I here there is a mini in the works that won't be 'in continuity'That's true, but don't let the "not in continuity" part scare you off. It's going to be a great, pure Captain Marvel story. It's going to be full of action and fun and mosters. Yay!

DCKar2nist

02-21-2006, 06:03 PM

Does Wonder Woman even sell that many comics? Outside merchendising and the iconic thing, theres no other reason to give her a monthly when so many great titles had to be cut (ONLY 2 SUPERMAN TITLES!?).

Justin D.

02-21-2006, 10:43 PM

I couldn't find the thread about Outsiders' first OYL cover so I'm just putting it up here.

http://dccomics.com/media/covers/4979_400x600.jpg

That's everyone revealed except for one. I've heard it's a doozy. Then again, how many here are actually reading this book? Everyone on the three Titans covers coming is still in shadows except for one person on each. That was staying a secret unless someone knows otherwise.

Nick Kal

02-21-2006, 11:15 PM

It's Arsenal...

Sean Walsh

02-22-2006, 07:49 AM

http://dccomics.com/media/covers/4979_400x600.jpg

Hang on......I think Judd himself said one of the new Outsiders would be "a doozy".

And that guy seems to be wearing a neckerchief of some kind.......

Holy crap! I think that's the new Captain Boomerang!

DCKar2nist

02-22-2006, 08:41 AM

Hey great idea, that'd be great, the team needs a super speedster.

titanfan

02-22-2006, 09:07 AM

It's already spoiled all over the net that it's indeed the new Boomerang.

Does Thunder have Lightning powers now?

Nick Kal

02-22-2006, 10:48 AM

Where has that been confirmed? Maybe that doozy member is not on this cover...

Lex

02-22-2006, 12:59 PM

Article at Newsarama (http://www.newsarama.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=60372)

New DC titles:

The All-New Atom ongoing - by Gail Simone and Trevor Scott

Creeper mini – by Steve Niles and Justiniano

Martian Manhunter mini – by A.J. Lieberman and Al Barrionuevo

OMAC mini – by Bruce Jones and Renato Guedes

The Trials of Shazam! 12-issue maxi-series – by Judd Winick and Howard Porter

Uncle Sam & The Freedom Fighters mini – by Jimmy Palmiotti, Justin Gray and Daniel Acuna

I'm very interested in Atom, Creeper and Freedom Fighters. I'm interested, but wary of Winick's Shazam!

I probably won't get OMAC. It just seems like an attempt to cash-in on their popularity without much substance.

And I was very disappointed with Martian Manhunter. I think Lieberman is a horrible writer and I'm not thrilled that he'll be writing one of DC's coolest characters.

Maleficentogre

02-22-2006, 01:07 PM

I'm interested in bout near all of them except for omac.

CAShepard

02-22-2006, 01:13 PM

my wallet just sobbed a little. I'll be getting all of those.

Cayman

02-22-2006, 01:20 PM

I'll get Creeper and maybe Freedom Fighters.

Atom might be good, given Gail as the writer, but nah, who cares.

The rest all sound pointless.

Cay

Lex

02-22-2006, 01:33 PM

And, y'know, I kind of like the idea of this Brave New World 80-Page one-shot being used to introduce these new series. I imagine a lot of people will get Brave New World because it's $1 and to check out the new books. Good idea for promotion.

I wish Manhunter and other great, underselling books would've had something like that.

Expletive Deleted

02-22-2006, 01:35 PM

The CREEPER title sounds kind of interesting, but the rest . . . eh.

noh-varr

02-22-2006, 01:47 PM

I'm pretty meh about them all. Will most likely try the New Atom though if it comes out on a light week. But does Winnick really need to be writing more DCU books? I've never enjoyed any thing he's done besides Barry Ween.

Maleficentogre

02-22-2006, 01:49 PM

I don't think it's possible to turn down $1 comics.

SUPERECWFAN1

02-22-2006, 01:50 PM

I'll check out Brave New World for $1. Plus the only 2 titles that has any interest for me is the The All-New Atom and Freedom Fighters. Having the awesome Hawkman team on that just makes me smile. :D

G. Wayne

02-22-2006, 01:52 PM

Winick is doing Shazam? Awww man, First Thunder was several shades of meh. I'll pass on that, and the rest, for that matter.

Brack360

02-22-2006, 02:05 PM

I'll be picking up Brave New World, but I probably won't pick up any of the other titles. I've recently added a few new titles, and with the prices going up to $3.00, I don't think I can afford any more comics.

Is anyone else surprised that there was no mention of a new Batwoman title? Maybe that was only a rumor after all.

Maleficentogre

02-22-2006, 02:25 PM

I'm not surprised by it. I didn't figure we'd get a sniff of batwoman for a while.

Cayman

02-22-2006, 02:26 PM

Winick is doing Shazam? Awww man, First Thunder was several shades of meh. I'll pass on that, and the rest, for that matter.

That surprised me, Winick hasn't really shown much inspiration with the Marvel characters. I was unimpressed with First Thunder and his Action issues.

Cay

Murrocko

02-22-2006, 02:32 PM

Creeper ..... Jack Ryder, kinda like the Joker, Creeper?

Adem

02-22-2006, 02:39 PM

The only one I have the slightest interest in is The Atom and even then I'll flip through the first issue before I buy it.

Maleficentogre

02-22-2006, 02:41 PM

not like joker. not at all. creeper is remotely sane, and is generally a good guy. a good guy that unlike joker doesn't make an apperance every other issue of every comic.

Joe Acro

02-22-2006, 02:44 PM

So, are they bringing them back from the dead (please!) or are they creating a new Freedom Fighters? Oh, I miss the Human Bomb. Rest in piece, Mr. Lincoln...

Damo

02-22-2006, 02:52 PM

kcekada

02-22-2006, 02:53 PM

Winnick and Shazam? No thanks -- I was so unimpressed with the Superman/Captain Marvel mini. Can't believe they are handing the big red cheese over to him for another series.

Atom? Really? I don't know. I guess this may be a brand new character. Gail does good work, so I'll give it a try.

Saw a preview of Justinano's work on Creeper at this site -- and loved it! Should be cool.

Never liked Martian Manhunter. This could be pencilled by Jim Lee and painted by Alex Ross, and I still would not care.

Uncle Sam and a new Freedom Figthers sounds very promising.

And Omac. Are they bringing back the Kirby Omac? I'm really not interested in the life of a DC mandroid from Infinite Crisis. If it's the fomer, I'll give it a try, otherwise, no.

ducklord

02-22-2006, 03:26 PM

Some "judging the books before there's even a cover" thoughts...

The All-New Atom - I swear to God, sometimes I think DC is intentionally putting the charming Miss Simone on certain projects to tamp down their more controversial aspects with her boundless wit and sagacity. Byrne's Action. Liefeld's Titans. A Ray Palmer-less Atom. I wouldn't be surpised if she turned up as the writer on Dave Sim's first ever DC title... sigh... of course, I'll buy it. It'll probably be good, too. Rats :)

Omac - Dreadfully uninterested, but if they start injecting Kirbian influences into the title, I'm there.

Shazam - Something about Captain Marvel seems to bring out the Good Judd, imho. I'm in.

Creeper - The proposed take on Ryder's character sounds intriguing. Count me in.

Martian Manhunter - Mr. Lieberman has done zip, zilch, nada, to give me any confidence that this title won't be a character/continuity/storytelling train wreck. He gets one issue to thrill me.

Uncle Sam and the Freedom Fighters - I personally think that Uncle Sam is one of the most fascinating, underexplored characters in the DCU. Further, I believe that all kinds of absolutely wonderfully keen things can be done with both the legacies of the various Quality Comics characters AND the reason d'etre of the Freedom Fighters as a group. Which is all a longwinded way of saying "this book better be at least as good as the one that I'm reading in my head." Horribly unfair and fanboyish of me, I know, but sometimes that's the way the Freedom Fries crumble...

Uncle Sam rocks,
Mike.

Damo

02-22-2006, 03:36 PM

Lex

02-22-2006, 03:50 PM

Oops. Didn't think about spoilers in the thread title. My bad.

titanfan

02-22-2006, 04:19 PM

It was confirmed at WonderCon in one of the panels.

Justin D.

02-22-2006, 04:52 PM

First glance I thought "So they're killing characters and books I like for a bunch of junk I have no intention of buying." Second glance I thought "Oh, Gail's writing Atom. Never did give a fiddler's fart for him, but I'll try it."

How about thinking "So they're killing off characters and books I like for new characters and books I have no knowledge of" instead? It's quite a bit less judgemental and negative.

Sean Walsh

02-22-2006, 05:30 PM

So it really is the new Captain Boomerang?!

Since I never saw these reports, I still take credit for coming up with that out of the blue!

Maleficentogre

02-22-2006, 05:32 PM

where's arsenal go?

EDmanwalking

02-22-2006, 05:49 PM

First 52, then the 2.99 price increase, and now this. Dammit DC!

Young Avenger

02-22-2006, 06:14 PM

The Creeper is the only one that sounds interesting. I don't care for the rest.

Babylon23

02-22-2006, 06:15 PM

I'll check out most of these. I like that DC is launching most as miniseries first. It's a good way to test the waters and see what fans might be interested in. Also, the Brave New World book is a good idea.

Damo

02-22-2006, 06:53 PM

How about thinking "So they're killing off characters and books I like for new characters and books I have no knowledge of" instead? It's quite a bit less judgemental and negative.

How about not? I'm judgemental and negative because I have a good memory. I remember the books that were "spun off" off of Crisis.

They sucked. Sure the reboots were good, often very good. But those were reboots of existing books, so I honestly don't count them. Honestly there'd be no excuse for doing the post-crisis Superman origina badly.

I remember the books that were "spun off" off of Invasion.

They sucked.

I remember the books that were spun off of Bloodlines.

Well, Hitman was funny, some of the time. The rest sucked. Anima? Whatever.

I remember the books that were "spun off" off of Zero Hour.

You'll never believe this, but they sucked. Well, okay, Starman was wicked good, but Fate and Manhunter were just painful.

Any time DC rushes to release a bunch of new titles after a big even, I cringe. In this case I see one creator I care for, and no characters I care for. If I'm negative it's because it's a pavlovian style learned reflex.

Justin D.

02-22-2006, 06:58 PM

How about not? I'm judgemental and negative because I have a good memory. I remember the books that were "spun off" off of Crisis.

They sucked.

I remember the books that were "spun off" off of Invasion.

They sucked.

I remember the books that were "spun off" off of Zero Hour.

You'll never believe this, but they sucked. Well, okay, Starman was wicked good, but Fate and Manhunter were just painful.

Any time DC rushes to release a bunch of new titles after a big even, I cringe. In this case I see one creator I care for, and no characters I care for. If I'm negative it's because it's a pavlovian style learned reflex.

I don't see a reason for me not to believe you think those books sucked, but these are all different times and creators. I personally like everyone involved with the Blue Beetle book and will give it a shot before condemning it. It may suck, but I don't know yet and admit that. I understand the whole "I've been burned before" sentiment. Like you said though, Starman was great so you never can tell where good books will come from until they're actually here.

Captain Jim

02-22-2006, 08:29 PM

Is anyone else surprised that there was no mention of a new Batwoman title? Maybe that was only a rumor after all.

I don't know about "surprised", but I did take note of it. Not sure what (if anything) that means, but it does seem that we're getting to the end of the "new title" announcements.

Captain Jim

02-22-2006, 08:30 PM

And Omac. Are they bringing back the Kirby Omac? I'm really not interested in the life of a DC mandroid from Infinite Crisis. If it's the fomer, I'll give it a try, otherwise, no.

They did say it's a follow-up to IC.

Nick Kal

02-22-2006, 09:00 PM

So will the new Atom be a woman? Is it sexist of me to think Gail Simone will write another female hero book?

Nick Kal

02-22-2006, 09:01 PM

It was confirmed at WonderCon in one of the panels.

A link perhaps? I would have rememnered reading that.

Violently Apathetic

02-22-2006, 09:03 PM

Probably picking up the Creeper title and The Trials of Shazam! as I'm liking 'First Thunder' a lot...*is bricked...again*

Choppa

02-22-2006, 09:12 PM

Martian Manhunter mini – by A.J. Lieberman and Al Barrionuevo

Is HUSH going to be in it?

Nick Kal

02-22-2006, 09:24 PM

Is HUSH going to be in it?

You bet! ;)

Pookienick

02-23-2006, 03:28 AM

I don't see a reason for me not to believe you think those books sucked, but these are all different times and creators. I personally like everyone involved with the Blue Beetle book and will give it a shot before condemning it. It may suck, but I don't know yet and admit that. I understand the whole "I've been burned before" sentiment. Like you said though, Starman was great so you never can tell where good books will come from until they're actually here.

I agree - I like the sound of most of the new series announced (not sure on OMAC - they are my least favourite part of the whole crisis thing) and will probably give them a shot (what's that - ahhh it's just my bank account weeping in the corner) and if we only end up with one title as good as Starman I will be pleased.

I have been collecting comics for twenty years and have tried some amazingly terrible new series but every now and again you find a Starman or a Preacher or a Manhunter etc.

Only thing I am not a fan of is that all the mini's seem to be quite long - whatever happend to the four issue mini series.

DCKar2nist

02-23-2006, 04:43 PM

Thanks God there brining Uncle Sam back! Anyone else notice his body was never found among the dead FFs?

Alio

02-23-2006, 07:02 PM

Being a mostly Marvel reader I am using this 1 year forward to add some new titles to my pull list (plus I got a raise, what else to do but buy comics :p )
So I just wanted to ask what books do you guys recommend? And I know none of these books have started, so use your best judgement. What creative teams and concepts do you like? What will you be picking up or adding to your pull list? Any ideas would be appreciated. (I apoligize if this was already talked about in this topic, I did not read all the pages) Keep in mind I have no idea what the heck Infinite Crisis is or why the books are moving "1 year" ahead....I do want to read a Superman title, so I will be picking one up, which one?

Hellstormer

02-24-2006, 06:56 PM

Wait a minute is LEgion getting a OYL skip because that wouldn't make sense.

Paul Newell

02-25-2006, 03:52 AM

Wait a minute is LEgion getting a OYL skip because that wouldn't make sense.
I think so...That's when it gets retitled to Supergirl and....

There's nothing to really stop the title from jumping one year forward out of sympathy. :)

Shellhead

03-01-2006, 11:08 AM

I would just like to propose that we refer to One Year Later as "the OYL Change."

DCKar2nist

03-02-2006, 06:53 PM

Is anyone else surprised that there was no mention of a new Batwoman title? Maybe that was only a rumor after all.

Maybe it'll get released in june with the new Flash and WW title.

Probably picking up the Creeper title and The Trials of Shazam!

When are these coming out?

Is Hush going to be in it?

Last question: Whats the connection between Hush and the Martian Manhunter?

shaxper

03-06-2006, 08:13 AM

Were Blood of the Demon and Outsiders released on time? I didn't see them at my LCS last week.

Maleficentogre

03-06-2006, 08:16 AM

Yes they were.

ProjectX2

03-11-2006, 02:49 PM

I think one is greatly needed, and I haven't seen one around.

Could someone please list the OYL titles that have been released so far and the ones that are coming up in the next few weeks?

Paul Newell

03-19-2006, 04:03 PM

Any recent updates, EG?