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jadegiant77
12-16-2005, 03:23 PM
I've been buying these lately, and I am getting REALLY annoyed at the new scenes shoehorned into the reprints(not the backups)! Most of them are totally jarring and don't jibe with the original story! For example,in the reprint of Uncanny X-Men #101, after the X-Men leave Jamaica Bay and take Jean to the hospital, Kurt uses his image inducer to disguise the entire team. In the "bonus" footage, Jean makes her own clothes, and Storm flies back to the mansion to get clothes for the others! WTF! Why did Claremont feel the need to add these additions? And why did they stop reprinting the original covers?

The Lucky One
12-16-2005, 03:51 PM
Why did Claremont feel the need to add these additions?

He didn't "feel the need," he was told to by editors who thought people wouldn't buy a straight reprint title without new material. You're quite right that some of the inserted pages don't work very well -- really, how could any writer do that very well? -- but the extra stories in the back more than make up for them.

-D

DDM
12-16-2005, 05:36 PM
Chris Claremont wrote these original scenes in the original run, but they were cut for space; he re-inerted the scenes for Classic X-Men. Originally, Claremont wanted the original artists--Dave Cockrum & John Byrne respectively--to draw the re-inserted scenes, but this did not happen.

streator
12-16-2005, 11:03 PM
Chris Claremont wrote these original scenes in the original run, but they were cut for space; he re-inerted the scenes for Classic X-Men. Originally, Claremont wanted the original artists--Dave Cockrum & John Byrne respectively--to draw the re-inserted scenes, but this did not happen.
really? this i did not know. i thought classic x-men was just a reprint book with added scenes, not claremont's original intentions. kind of makes me think of the series in a different way, actually. any proof to back this up, ddm?

DDM
12-17-2005, 08:54 AM
really? this i did not know. i thought classic x-men was just a reprint book with added scenes, not claremont's original intentions. kind of makes me think of the series in a different way, actually. any proof to back this up, ddm?

Yes, Chris Claremont said so in the forward in X-Men: Vignettes TPB.

jadegiant77
12-27-2005, 01:33 PM
Sounds a lot like George Lucas' tampering with Star Wars, if you ask me. If it ain't broke, yadda, yadda,yadda.

spoon_jenkins
12-27-2005, 01:54 PM
Chris Claremont wrote these original scenes in the original run, but they were cut for space; he re-inerted the scenes for Classic X-Men. Originally, Claremont wanted the original artists--Dave Cockrum & John Byrne respectively--to draw the re-inserted scenes, but this did not happen.
I'm suspicious about this even though CC says so. A lot of the new scenes feel shoehorned rather than natural. For example, a lot of them seem more dialogue-heavy. Then, certain scenes seem tangentially connected to the back-up stories. And some elements (like scenes that humanize Magneto) seem more consistent with CC's point of view at the time the Classic issues were published rather than his POV at the time of the original stories.

streator
12-27-2005, 03:24 PM
I'm suspicious about this even though CC says so. A lot of the new scenes feel shoehorned rather than natural. For example, a lot of them seem more dialogue-heavy.

a dialogue-heavy claremont comic?

http://img423.imageshack.us/img423/4834/ricromerostoryateleven8sz.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Your deduction skills are most impressive.

spoon_jenkins
12-27-2005, 03:37 PM
a dialogue-heavy claremont comic?

http://img423.imageshack.us/img423/4834/ricromerostoryateleven8sz.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Your deduction skills are most impressive.
I think you missed what I'm saying. Both the original stories and the new scenes are written by Claremont. But the new scenes are often more densely dialogued, suggesting that they were scripted at a later date when CC's style had changed somewhat.

streator
12-27-2005, 03:49 PM
I think you missed what I'm saying. Both the original stories and the new scenes are written by Claremont. But the new scenes are often more densely dialogued, suggesting that they were scripted at a later date when CC's style had changed somewhat.
understandable. i was more so using what you said to get in a good romero.

spoon_jenkins
12-27-2005, 04:13 PM
understandable. i was more so using what you said to get in a good romero.
Okey-doke. What's a romero? Like George Romero? Or Caeser Romero?