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TremendaGuy
12-15-2005, 11:25 PM
Wouldn't it be cool? I mean, Green Lantern (at least Hal Jordan's GL) is my favorite super, and it would be AWESOME if someone like Bryan Singer made a GL movie. And there DEFINATELY needs to be a GL game. What do you think??

Also, this is a Hal Jordan GL discussion thread. So feel free to join in and talk, fellow Hal fans!! :)

stealthwise
12-16-2005, 12:12 AM
A Green Lantern movie, done right, would rock.

That means solid direction, a focus on the character and the space stuff without having the entire movie overwhelmed by stuntwork, explosions and CGI (though all of those would be necessary for a good film), and no Jack Black. I'd also love a very short origin and have the movie move straight to the story. Nothing I dislike more than something that basically focuses entirely on the hero's origin in the first movie before anything interesting happens (the sole exception being Batman Begins, which is all about the origin).

Sanagi
12-16-2005, 03:58 AM
A video game might vaguely be possible on the DS. Otherwise, await the invention of cybernetic controllers that can read your thoughts...

An animated TV show could be pretty awesome, along the lines of what we've seen in Justice League(but hopefully with better scripts than those particular episodes, which were pretty disappointing).

A GL movie could potentially be the most awesome thing since sliced bread. I'd actually like to see it cover the three main GLs, and perhaps some of the side GLs, in seperate chapters, with maybe a team-up at the end for a big climax. That way, you see them all in their own eras, starting with Alan Scott in the golden age, you get the main cool points about each character without delving too much into convoluted backstory, and it demonstrates one of the great things about the Green Lantern concept - that no one person owns the role.

Bored at 3:00AM
12-16-2005, 08:48 AM
A GL video game could potentially be a heckuva lot of fun given the variety of both characters and powers at the players' disposal. I mean, if you could play as any of the five main GLs of Earth and have an arsenal of dozens of different ring creations to smash various baddies with, you'd have a wonderfully visual game.

xnef1025
12-16-2005, 10:59 AM
I'm a bit of a GL newb, but I think a good way for a movie to go would be to have Hal get the ring and then be whisked off to Oa for training as the new GL of his sector. Humans would be considered a "backwater" species and Hal would get little respect from the rest of the Corp. Manhunters attack Oa and of course, Hal saves the day leading a group of other trainees. You could really replace Hal with any of the other GLs that way(except Alan of course).

TremendaGuy
12-16-2005, 10:43 PM
I'm a bit of a GL newb, but I think a good way for a movie to go would be to have Hal get the ring and then be whisked off to Oa for training as the new GL of his sector. Humans would be considered a "backwater" species and Hal would get little respect from the rest of the Corp. Manhunters attack Oa and of course, Hal saves the day leading a group of other trainees. You could really replace Hal with any of the other GLs that way(except Alan of course).

Yes!! That would be awesome. I would rather it focus on Silver Age Hal Jordan then Golden Age Alan Scott, because Hal (being Silver Age) has a sci-fi backround, rather then Scott's fantasy/magic crap, which personally I am SICK OF because it is EVERYWHERE. I like the idea of GL being part of an intergalactic peace-keeping corps then some guy using a magic lantern. That, to me, is so lame, but that's just my opinion. Magic stuff is boring. Anyway, your idea is cool, and it would go good with a sequel, showing an established GL "agent" (Hal) on Earth doing regular super-hero stuff.

KingEli
12-17-2005, 09:19 AM
Done Right It would be a kick ass Game,Give EveryBody there own skills,Like Klye able to make very detailed constructs,while Guy would have less constrcuts but a bit more Agressive.

As a movie Include The main Five and some of the GLC(Lets have G'Nort as comic relief), a Damn good Story and CGI

tymac
12-17-2005, 09:37 AM
I imagine it as a blend of X-men legends but with a larger area maps and controls like Ultimate Spider-man. The characters could start out with a simple beam an construct attacks(ala the giant hand or boxing glove), level up to more intense attacks, and finally have something like summon spells in kingdom hearts for the advanced levels. The key would be to make it fun to play, but theres a limitless amount of possibilties for the levels and characters powers.


Of course, If done poorly it could be awful, as DC based games have had a tendency to be.

megladon8
12-17-2005, 10:13 AM
The Green Lantern movie is already set to begin production.

Jack Black is in the lead role.

And no, I'm not joking.

Bored at 3:00AM
12-17-2005, 11:07 AM
The Green Lantern movie is already set to begin production.

Jack Black is in the lead role.

And no, I'm not joking.

This was an idea Hollywood floated around a few years ago and was quickly shot down. It is not happening. Currently, there is no Green Lantern movie planned. Although there have been dozens of different ideas for one.

megladon8
12-17-2005, 11:11 AM
This was an idea Hollywood floated around a few years ago and was quickly shot down. It is not happening. Currently, there is no Green Lantern movie planned. Although there have been dozens of different ideas for one.

A few years ago?

I got a newsletter about it in like, October.

stealthwise
12-17-2005, 04:20 PM
A few years ago?

I got a newsletter about it in like, October.

Then that newsletter is massively outdated. This is the internet, we shoot down rumours every day, four times a day.

TremendaGuy
12-17-2005, 04:24 PM
The Green Lantern movie is already set to begin production.

Jack Black is in the lead role.

And no, I'm not joking.

I'm sure glad that everyone said that was a false rumor. That would be the MOST HORRIBLE THING that would ever have happened in the universe. It would totally mess up GL, as there is nothing in the entire galaxy that I hate more than Jack Black. Having that fat a$$hole play Hal Jordan would be horrible. I hate the man's attitude, facial expressions, and all-around disposition. AND his acting.

Not to mention I would be traumatized for life if I saw that ugly cow wearing spandex.

megladon8
12-17-2005, 04:30 PM
I'm sure glad that everyone said that was a false rumor. That would be the MOST HORRIBLE THING that would ever have happened in the universe. It would totally mess up GL, as there is nothing in the entire galaxy that I hate more than Jack Black. Having that fat a$$hole play Hal Jordan would be horrible. I hate the man's attitude, facial expressions, and all-around disposition. AND his acting.

Not to mention I would be traumatized for life if I saw that ugly cow wearing spandex.


The idea was to make it a comedy, since not many people outside the comic book world take Green Lantern very seriously.

Bored at 3:00AM
12-18-2005, 09:12 AM
A few years ago?

I got a newsletter about it in like, October.

Whoever is writing this newsletter is a little out of date.

megladon8
12-18-2005, 10:41 AM
Whoever is writing this newsletter is a little out of date.


Well it was a WB insider report, so I thought it was pretty legit.

Regardless, if its not true, that's all the better.

Now if only they would recast The Flash...

TremendaGuy
12-18-2005, 10:55 AM
The idea was to make it a comedy, since not many people outside the comic book world take Green Lantern very seriously.

The WHAT?!? GL is like, one of the coolest Supers!! GL is king...I can't believe people outside the comic book world take him seriously. I'll tell ya, the rest of the world just...isn't normal!!

megladon8
12-18-2005, 11:37 AM
The WHAT?!? GL is like, one of the coolest Supers!! GL is king...I can't believe people outside the comic book world take him seriously. I'll tell ya, the rest of the world just...isn't normal!!


Well to be honest, until I knew what the character was really about, I had a false impression that he was ridiculous.

I can see how people that are misinformed could think that.

stealthwise
12-18-2005, 11:41 AM
Well to be honest, until I knew what the character was really about, I had a false impression that he was ridiculous.

I can see how people that are misinformed could think that.

And that ignorance is the reason that you go out and make a really kickass Green Lantern movie or tv show and let them in on why the characters and the concepts work so well. A GL video game would actually be a great way to start, especially if it was done well.

megladon8
12-18-2005, 11:48 AM
And that ignorance is the reason that you go out and make a really kickass Green Lantern movie or tv show and let them in on why the characters and the concepts work so well. A GL video game would actually be a great way to start, especially if it was done well.


I'm not ignorant :(

And I agree a GL video game would be awesome, but I can just imagine all the fanboys that would be pissed off because you can't *literally* make anything you desire with the ring.


Because, obviously, there would be some limitations.

Also, games based on comic book characters - more specifically, DC characters - rarely turn out to be even playable.

stealthwise
12-18-2005, 12:01 PM
I'm not ignorant :(

And I agree a GL video game would be awesome, but I can just imagine all the fanboys that would be pissed off because you can't *literally* make anything you desire with the ring.


Because, obviously, there would be some limitations.

Also, games based on comic book characters - more specifically, DC characters - rarely turn out to be even playable.

The ring construct consideration can be done in so many ways it's insane. You could do the game as a first-person shooter and have multiple weapons that the ring can access (even more than one at a time, or have a "design your own weapon" feature). Or you can make it more like an RPG and have the character learn or discover different constructs to use as they progress through the game. Combine those features with the ability to fly, create and manipulate energy beams/shields, etc, and the appealing GL characters themselves, and you've got a winner.

And most DC games don't make money because... well, they suck ass. Look at AQUAMAN. What a brutal game. But the animated Batman games are good and appear to sell well, and Marvel is probably cleaning up a small, tidy sum on the Hulk game, Ultimate Spider-Man and the like. A quality Green Lantern game, sold on its own merits, would do well.

megladon8
12-18-2005, 12:08 PM
The ring construct consideration can be done in so many ways it's insane. You could do the game as a first-person shooter and have multiple weapons that the ring can access (even more than one at a time, or have a "design your own weapon" feature). Or you can make it more like an RPG and have the character learn or discover different constructs to use as they progress through the game. Combine those features with the ability to fly, create and manipulate energy beams/shields, etc, and the appealing GL characters themselves, and you've got a winner.

I agree that would be a great game, but you'd still have all the ridiculous GL fanatics saying like "everyone know GL can make ____________ with his ring...he did so in issue _____________ in 1967...what were the game developers thinking??"

And then I would slap them in the face.


And most DC games don't make money because... well, they suck ass. Look at AQUAMAN. What a brutal game. But the animated Batman games are good and appear to sell well, and Marvel is probably cleaning up a small, tidy sum on the Hulk game, Ultimate Spider-Man and the like. A quality Green Lantern game, sold on its own merits, would do well.

That's kinda what I just said :)

In all honesty, I think Batman Begins (the game) had somethign going for it. The idea of making it more of a stealth action game was great...if only they lengthened it and cleaned it up a bit.

And we need a DECENT Superman game.

stealthwise
12-18-2005, 12:12 PM
I agree that would be a great game, but you'd still have all the ridiculous GL fanatics saying like "everyone know GL can make ____________ with his ring...he did so in issue _____________ in 1967...what were the game developers thinking??"

And then I would slap them in the face.

Hehe, yeah... but at least a lot of the complianants would be playing. They could build bigger and better things into future games.


That's kinda what I just said :)

In all honesty, I think Batman Begins (the game) had somethign going for it. The idea of making it more of a stealth action game was great...if only they lengthened it and cleaned it up a bit.

And we need a DECENT Superman game.

Oops, sorry, I thought you put "profitable" rather than "playable" (I just woke up about an hour ago). I thought that the Superman game for the N64 had decent controls and capabilities, but didn't really have enough to it to make it interesting. "Vertical Joe" was a great game in terms of what you could do with the character, I think that a Flash game would be wise to steal a lot of the speed and time manipulation strategies in it.

I've got a buddy who's pursuing a MSC in Computer Science and wants to program video games. I'll ask him how viable the type of GL game I'd like to see would be.

megladon8
12-18-2005, 02:42 PM
Hehe, yeah... but at least a lot of the complianants would be playing. They could build bigger and better things into future games.



Oops, sorry, I thought you put "profitable" rather than "playable" (I just woke up about an hour ago). I thought that the Superman game for the N64 had decent controls and capabilities, but didn't really have enough to it to make it interesting. "Vertical Joe" was a great game in terms of what you could do with the character, I think that a Flash game would be wise to steal a lot of the speed and time manipulation strategies in it.

I've got a buddy who's pursuing a MSC in Computer Science and wants to program video games. I'll ask him how viable the type of GL game I'd like to see would be.


Have you ever played any of the new "Prince of Persia" games?

The reason I mention them is because, if they were making a Flash game, they could use that same "slow time" effect, and have your character stll moving normally, making it a really effective...um...effect.

However, before they even BEGIN a Flash game, I want to see a change of cast for The Flash. Ryan Reynolds just doesn't fit, and we all know it'll become a one-liner MTV movie.

stealthwise
12-18-2005, 09:54 PM
Have you ever played any of the new "Prince of Persia" games?

The reason I mention them is because, if they were making a Flash game, they could use that same "slow time" effect, and have your character stll moving normally, making it a really effective...um...effect.

However, before they even BEGIN a Flash game, I want to see a change of cast for The Flash. Ryan Reynolds just doesn't fit, and we all know it'll become a one-liner MTV movie.

The Persia games ruled, and using those, plus the Vertical Joe stuff I mentioned, would work well.

Reynolds name is attached to the movie, but it's not even in development, as far as I heard, they don't even have a script yet.

TremendaGuy
12-18-2005, 11:51 PM
I imagine it as a blend of X-men legends but with a larger area maps and controls like Ultimate Spider-man. The characters could start out with a simple beam an construct attacks(ala the giant hand or boxing glove), level up to more intense attacks, and finally have something like summon spells in kingdom hearts for the advanced levels. The key would be to make it fun to play, but theres a limitless amount of possibilties for the levels and characters powers.

^^^THIS man has an excellent suggestion for how a GL game could work. Building up would be good, and GL doesn't have to have ALL the stuff he had in the comic books. Games don't have to reflect every single thing the comics can do, just present it in game format.

But the game would have to be Hal Jordan to be cool. Hal is the coolest GL, and the best. It would also be cool to have the game take place in the 60's, like the Silver Age comics.

jaguarshark
12-19-2005, 12:39 AM
As far as the whole Jack Black as Green Lantern thing goes, am I the only one who thinks that would have been good? I was really psyched about that when it looked like it might happen a couple of years back. I get why so many people are against the idea, but like, the whole point of Green Lantern is that the ring gives them their power-it doesn't really matter if he's fat or whatever. If Black's character was an artist or something, and could think up some cool stuff for the ring to do, I think it would have been great. A Green Lantern movie, no matter how it's done, needs heaps of CGI and unlimited imagination.

stealthwise
12-19-2005, 11:41 AM
As far as the whole Jack Black as Green Lantern thing goes, am I the only one who thinks that would have been good? I was really psyched about that when it looked like it might happen a couple of years back. I get why so many people are against the idea, but like, the whole point of Green Lantern is that the ring gives them their power-it doesn't really matter if he's fat or whatever. If Black's character was an artist or something, and could think up some cool stuff for the ring to do, I think it would have been great. A Green Lantern movie, no matter how it's done, needs heaps of CGI and unlimited imagination.

Problem with Black isn't that he's a bad actor (far from it, imo), but that the movie would have been written to his comedic strengths, and turned into farce really quickly. Most GL fans want to see the heroic Alan Scott/Hal Jordan mold of the character, rather than something you could see with any character.

Basically, what I envision a Black superhero movie consisting of could be done with any character, including a new one, rather than adapting Green Lantern and ruining the mythos.

jaguarshark
12-19-2005, 05:52 PM
Yes, but look at that crazed look in Black's eyes... he could be convincing as a man completely devoid of fear. (I would have said "man without fear", but it sounded a little too Daredevilly). For me, that's the main thing: Hal Jordan fears nothing. And Jack Black could convey that.

TremendaGuy
12-19-2005, 08:58 PM
I hate Jack Black and all his acting is the same. I loathe the man, and he could not play a super-hero. His voice is as annoying as nails on a chalkboard, and his facial expressions are dumb as a cow's.

lead sharp
12-22-2005, 04:50 PM
I honestly don't like the fact they brough Hal back, I'm up to here (holding hand up to throat) with the retro cowardace of DC. BUT that being said...

The All Star line could do with another comic, you could do an amazing Hal Jordan in that.

megladon8
12-22-2005, 06:54 PM
I honestly don't like the fact they brough Hal back, I'm up to here (holding hand up to throat) with the retro cowardace of DC. BUT that being said...

The All Star line could do with another comic, you could do an amazing Hal Jordan in that.


Those two points seem like a complete contradiction...

But anyways, you should be very, VERY happy when Infinite Crisis is over.

jaguarshark
12-23-2005, 02:00 AM
But anyways, you should be very, VERY happy when Infinite Crisis is over.
Why's that? Is Hal's return getting undone, or is Hal going to be a central player, or is Hal getting an All-Star title, or what? Sorry I didn't understand, I just wasn't sure what you thought would make lead sharp happy, because like you say, the post is a little contradictory, but I get what he means. Still, the chances of an All-Star Green Lantern with Hal Jordan are slim now that Hal is back in the DCU in a Geoff Johns-scripted title.

megladon8
12-23-2005, 10:34 AM
Why's that? Is Hal's return getting undone, or is Hal going to be a central player, or is Hal getting an All-Star title, or what? Sorry I didn't understand, I just wasn't sure what you thought would make lead sharp happy, because like you say, the post is a little contradictory, but I get what he means. Still, the chances of an All-Star Green Lantern with Hal Jordan are slim now that Hal is back in the DCU in a Geoff Johns-scripted title.


No. Like half the DCU titles of base DC characters (Batman, Superman, The Flash, Green Lantern, etc.) are getting cancelled.

And since he seems to hate these characters so much, and wants new stuff, he should be thrilled.

stealthwise
12-23-2005, 10:51 AM
No. Like half the DCU titles of base DC characters (Batman, Superman, The Flash, Green Lantern, etc.) are getting cancelled.

And since he seems to hate these characters so much, and wants new stuff, he should be thrilled.

Green Lantern isn't getting cancelled. No way, no how. The book just got relaunched and is selling huge still. Flash will be cancelled and relaunched, most likely, just like JLA and Wonder Woman. Superman is being pared down to two titles, and the AOS is taking on its original moniker of "Superman" again. I think that the only Batman title getting the axe is Legends of the Dark Knight.

Really, all that's being done is some reshuffling of the cards.

megladon8
12-23-2005, 02:35 PM
Green Lantern isn't getting cancelled. No way, no how. The book just got relaunched and is selling huge still. Flash will be cancelled and relaunched, most likely, just like JLA and Wonder Woman. Superman is being pared down to two titles, and the AOS is taking on its original moniker of "Superman" again. I think that the only Batman title getting the axe is Legends of the Dark Knight.

Really, all that's being done is some reshuffling of the cards.

No, Legends of the Dark Knight, Gotham Knights. Birds of Prey and Gotham Central are all getting the axe.

Superman will only have All-Star.

Wonder Woman will not have a title. Flash will not have a title.

I think all of these are terrible moves. Especially Gotham Central, which is the best new title from DC in years, IMO.

Bored at 3:00AM
12-23-2005, 11:16 PM
No, Legends of the Dark Knight, Gotham Knights. Birds of Prey and Gotham Central are all getting the axe.

Superman will only have All-Star.

Wonder Woman will not have a title. Flash will not have a title.

I think all of these are terrible moves. Especially Gotham Central, which is the best new title from DC in years, IMO.

Where ARE you getting this shoddy information? Another horribly misinformed insider newsletter? The stuff you're staying is simply not true.

Birds of Prey is not getting cancelled.

Superman will continue to appear every month in Action Comics, Superman and All-Star Superman. And there will also be a new Superman: Classified monthly.

Legends of the Dark Knight is being replaced by Batman: Classified.

Wonder Woman and Flash are both being relaunched with a new #1.

And Gotham Central was ended because the creators that started the book, Ed Brubacher, Greg Rucka and Michael Lark had all moved on and Rucka asked DC to end the book rather than bring in a new creative team.

Whoever you're getting this info from is full of crap, man.

jaguarshark
12-24-2005, 01:33 AM
And Gotham Central was ended because the creators that started the book, Ed Brubacher, Greg Rucka and Michael Lark had all moved on and Rucka asked DC to end the book rather than bring in a new creative team.
Exactly, and even so, we're still getting 'Streets of Gotham' or something like that to fill that title's role.
As for the earlier poster's suggestion that Superman would be stripped back to All-Star only, and Green Lantern would be cancelled.... my god. Whoever you're getting your info from is a little off the mark. It's an understandable mistake and all, not everybody follows the latest relaunches and cancellations religously, and more power to these people who actually have lives, i say; but yeah, Action Comics won't be getting cancelled anytime soon, or, you know, ever, and Green Lantern has Geoff Johns on board and only just relaunched.
Hopefully that comes as good news, anyway.

megladon8
12-24-2005, 09:06 AM
Where ARE you getting this shoddy information? Another horribly misinformed insider newsletter? The stuff you're staying is simply not true.

Birds of Prey is not getting cancelled.

Superman will continue to appear every month in Action Comics, Superman and All-Star Superman. And there will also be a new Superman: Classified monthly.

Legends of the Dark Knight is being replaced by Batman: Classified.

Wonder Woman and Flash are both being relaunched with a new #1.

And Gotham Central was ended because the creators that started the book, Ed Brubacher, Greg Rucka and Michael Lark had all moved on and Rucka asked DC to end the book rather than bring in a new creative team.

Whoever you're getting this info from is full of crap, man.



You have no idea how much I'd love you to tell him that :)

He's a huge asshole.

stealthwise
12-24-2005, 09:14 AM
You have no idea how much I'd love you to tell him that :)

He's a huge asshole.

Haha, it's ok, you're here now. You're free.

Just ask nearly anyone else here for information and you should be fine. ;)

lead sharp
12-24-2005, 02:49 PM
No. Like half the DCU titles of base DC characters (Batman, Superman, The Flash, Green Lantern, etc.) are getting cancelled.

And since he seems to hate these characters so much, and wants new stuff, he should be thrilled.

Where does it say I hate these characters?

All Star appears mercifully to be out of continuty and allows for genuine characterisation in drama driven stories. This is great, instead of seeing say, Supreme be a study of Superman, we actually see Superman be the subject of study.

The regular DCU has a continuty that was at one stage growing and developing. This was fun and provided a vast interconnected universe that while played of its differing aspects could be dipped into just as easyly by a casual reader. It allowed for real character development, the death of Jason Todd, Hal Jordans change to The Spectre being just two examples of this.

The companies recent ret'conning of their universe is in my mind not only a little (and I mean a little) disrespectful to the hard working creative teams that thought it all up but an infinately (yup pun intended) lazy assed way of Going back to basics for no real reason.

I agree a little streamlining wouldn't hurt but at the cost of so many good ideas it seems a little more like a cull.

g-fex
12-24-2005, 08:23 PM
There's only one way to get GL extremely popular and taken seriously like Aquaman was with that episode. Is to somehow bring him into smallville, and Hal, no kyle/guy/john/alan. HAL. If they did it right then everyone would be interested.

TremendaGuy
12-25-2005, 01:15 AM
There's only one way to get GL extremely popular and taken seriously like Aquaman was with that episode. Is to somehow bring him into smallville, and Hal, no kyle/guy/john/alan. HAL. If they did it right then everyone would be interested.

And ONLY Hal, because Hal IS Green Lantern...nobody else is a cool GL. Hal is the coolest and best GL, and the only one who's existance I recognize. lol