View Full Version : Wtf @ Apocalypse vs. Dracula
En Sabah Nur...
12-14-2005, 04:15 PM
Am I the only one who thinks this is stupid? How are these 2 even comparible in power wtf. One guy is undead and sucks blood to live the other guy has control over molecules!!!!!!! lmao wtf
but here is dracula on the first cover, merking his ass :confused:
http://www.newsarama.com/marvelnew/Feb_06/apocalypse_dracula_cv1.jpg
The Fury
12-14-2005, 04:19 PM
They are both immortal.
Right?
That cover looks awesome...looks like Jae Lee, right?.
Beast
12-14-2005, 04:21 PM
Looks like Pocy will finally get what's coming to him. :D
En Sabah Nur...
12-14-2005, 04:21 PM
Yea but Dracula just needs to be stabbed in the heart, right? Or be hit by sunlight? lol
Apocalypse has like unlimited powers and shit, all godlike.
it's such a missmatch to me.
but yea the cover is sickkkk
Jake V
12-14-2005, 04:23 PM
Yea but Dracula just needs to be stabbed in the heart, right? Or be hit by sunlight? lol
Apocalypse has like unlimited powers and shit, all godlike.
it's such a missmatch to me.
but yea the cover is sickkkk
MU Dracula is pretty much unbeatable. Apocalypse once got his ass kicked by Stryfe.
It should be an entertaining comic.
The Fury
12-14-2005, 04:23 PM
Yea but Dracula just needs to be stabbed in the heart, right? Or be hit by sunlight? lol
Apocalypse has like unlimited powers and shit, all godlike.
but yea the cover is sickkkk
I think things work differently for Dracula himself, like that stakes do not work.
And I presume by Sickkk you mean good?
En Sabah Nur...
12-14-2005, 04:25 PM
I think things work differently for Dracula himself, like that stakes do not work.
And I presume by Sickkk you mean good?
LOL yes sick = good
and the 2nd cover
http://img522.imageshack.us/img522/8959/apocalypsedraculacv2colo2ry.jpg
I'm gonna die if it turns out that dracula bites Apocalypse and he's a vampire.
*notices the teeth on him*
The Fury
12-14-2005, 04:27 PM
LOL yes sick = good
Odd usage of such a discusting word.
When I hear the word sick...all i can think of is...well sick.
Okay...that's 1 cover too many for me. :)
TimGunn
12-14-2005, 04:28 PM
I predict they will end up being boyfriends. (I predict a lot of comics end this way....)
En Sabah Nur...
12-14-2005, 04:35 PM
Odd usage of such a discusting word.
When I hear the word sick...all i can think of is...well sick.
Okay...that's 1 cover too many for me. :)
north american thing i guess. ;)
Am I the only one who thinks this is stupid?
No you are not the only one believes Apocalypse vs Dracula is a stupid idea.
Since Dracula is not a mutant, Apocalypse would not care about him one way or another. The story is forced.
Think of the comic book as the MTV Death Match claymation show. No, this is not a compliment.
LoneWolf21
12-14-2005, 05:00 PM
I think they have a lot in common.
A story about the conflict between two guys who are power hungry conquerors with a penchant for using and manipulating people for their own ends, and who also use the lives of others to extend their own life (if that revelation from the twelve is still canon) sounds pretty good to me. Those covers are gorgeous too.
Oh, and there's also the neat saturday matinee feel to it as well. Apocalypse vs Dracula!
Annie get your Rum
12-14-2005, 05:02 PM
Next up-Galactus versus Squirrel Girl, written by Bendis and drawn by Ed Madureira.
LoneWolf21
12-14-2005, 05:16 PM
Next up-Galactus versus Squirrel Girl, written by Bendis and drawn by Ed Madureira.
Squirrel Girl would so trash him. ;)
Jagernaut
12-14-2005, 05:17 PM
Next up-Galactus versus Squirrel Girl, written by Bendis and drawn by Ed Madureira.
If she can beat Thanos, she can beat Galactus! :D
I want to see Golden Oldie vs Galactus. Golden Oldie has Franklin for help... :D
I will not be buying Dracula vs Apocalypse.
Next up-Galactus versus Squirrel Girl, written by Bendis and drawn by Ed Madureira.
I can see it as a 12 issue maxi series. Squirrel Girl accidently gets Galactus' powers & merges with Eternity; as a result, reality is altered again! Inbetween #1 & #12, nothing substantial happens except a lot of tagent off-topic talking & a big plot device with her pet squirrel.
LoneWolf21
12-14-2005, 05:56 PM
Bah, Squirrel Girl doesn't need the power of Galactus. She eats nuts!
Tommy
12-14-2005, 05:59 PM
Bah, Squirrel Girl doesn't need the power of Galactus. She eats nuts!
And she carries her nuts in her sacks.
G. Wayne
12-14-2005, 06:22 PM
I'll give it a shot mainly for the hell of it, going for the whole Saturday matinee feel (and me being a huge Godzilla fan. Y'know, the whole "TWO TITANIC MONSTERS COLLIDE!" That kinda thing.)
It's forced and completely out of left field, but I can see it working. For his main timeframe, wouldn't Dracula be one of the most powerful humanoid beings on the planet? Apocalypse's forte(sp?), the mutant boom, won't kick in for a while yet, so I can see him being interested in another immortal abberation (i.e. non-mutant) like Dracula.
I'll give it a shot mainly for the hell of it, going for the whole Saturday matinee feel (and me being a huge Godzilla fan. Y'know, the whole "TWO TITANIC MONSTERS COLLIDE!" That kinda thing.)
It's forced and completely out of left field, but I can see it working. For his main timeframe, wouldn't Dracula be one of the most powerful humanoid beings on the planet? Apocalypse's forte(sp?), the mutant boom, won't kick in for a while yet, so I can see him being interested in another immortal abberation (i.e. non-mutant) like Dracula.
A more interesting battle would be Selene, a mutant who has the ability to drain the lifeforce of her victims & is a powerful sorceress in her own right vs Dracula.
Loestal
12-14-2005, 07:22 PM
MU Dracula is pretty much unbeatable. Apocalypse once got his ass kicked by Stryfe.
It should be an entertaining comic.
Give credit where credit is due, he wasn't at 100% strength because he was brought out of his chamber prematurely. Plus, Stryfe is nothing to dismiss, as he is basically Cable without the TK virus.
As for the book...seems pretty crazy to me. Since when have Apacolypse and Dracula been bitter enemys?
The Lucky One
12-14-2005, 10:53 PM
Yea but Dracula just needs to be stabbed in the heart, right? Or be hit by sunlight? lol
Apocalypse has like unlimited powers and shit, all godlike.
it's such a missmatch to me.
That's true, but not in the way you're thinking... Dracula has held his own against a team of X-Men, while ol' Blue Lips can get punked by Archangel alone at times. It IS a mismatch; but in Dracula's favor.
-D
Ant-Man
12-14-2005, 11:06 PM
And she carries her nuts in her sacks.
And she can choke on these nuts.
Taskmaster
12-15-2005, 12:25 AM
DDM, why wouldn't Apocalypse be interested in Dracula, it's never been mutants that he's interested in, it's the strong, including people such as Hulk, so wouldn't he be interested in Dracula, one of the most powerfull and long lived beings in existance?
The Fury
12-15-2005, 03:44 AM
DDM, why wouldn't Apocalypse be interested in Dracula, it's never been mutants that he's interested in, it's the strong, including people such as Hulk, so wouldn't he be interested in Dracula, one of the most powerfull and long lived beings in existance?
This is one of the reasons I think Poccy is misused.
His time has been stuck in the mutant comics when really his is more of a world threat then any Avengers villian. He should have clashed with them far more.
Neolucifer
12-15-2005, 05:52 AM
I agree with Da Fury ! Anyway Sounds like a fun story so far , if it just suck you can probably pretty much erase it from your continuity . Also i couldnt imagine Apocalypse sitting on his ass , dealing with only a few mutants while waiting for more to come , and doing nothing with the rest of the world . I can definitaly see a bored Pocy tracking a Dracula with his famed immortality and power ... hell Pocy might even believe at firt that Dracula is a mutant .
Titan76
12-15-2005, 08:15 AM
That's true, but not in the way you're thinking... Dracula has held his own against a team of X-Men, while ol' Blue Lips can get punked by Archangel alone at times. It IS a mismatch; but in Dracula's favor.
-D
Apocalypse beat the same X-team Dracula beat expect Apocalypse had Iceman instead of Wolverine and was at near death when he fought them and beat them all in less then 20 seconds. Dracula on the other hand ran away. Plus Archangel has never punked Apocalypse, how could he? :confused:.The mismatch is in Apocalypse favor fight wise, much too powerful for Dracula to beat.
In a way I can see these two meeting in the past but I have no interest in this story. I doubt anything major will come about from this story as well. Plus Fury I agree with you in saying Apocalypse should have been an Avenger villain rather then an X-men villain. Doesn't mean he would have never clash with the X-men but I think he should have clash with the Avengers more.
Loestal
12-15-2005, 03:15 PM
Apocalypse beat the same X-team Dracula beat expect Apocalypse had Iceman instead of Wolverine and was at near death when he fought them and beat them all in less then 20 seconds. Dracula on the other hand ran away. Plus Archangel has never punked Apocalypse, how could he? :confused:.The mismatch is in Apocalypse favor fight wise, much too powerful for Dracula to beat.
In a way I can see these two meeting in the past but I have no interest in this story. I doubt anything major will come about from this story as well. Plus Fury I agree with you in saying Apocalypse should have been an Avenger villain rather then an X-men villain. Doesn't mean he would have never clash with the X-men but I think he should have clash with the Avengers more.
To say Apocalypse would beat Dracula easily is a little far fetched. I think it would be a decent fight either way. I think ALOT of people don't give Apocalypse his due credit for some reason.
And something that is bothering me...how in the world is Apocalypse alive after what Cable did to him? I mean, Apocalypse can regenerate from death, but his soul or essance or whatever was destroyed.....I hope they explain it, or Im just gonna have to tell myself Wanda did it.
The Fury
12-15-2005, 03:30 PM
Plus Fury I agree with you in saying Apocalypse should have been an Avenger villain rather then an X-men villain. Doesn't mean he would have never clash with the X-men but I think he should have clash with the Avengers more.
Oh yeah, goes without saying.
There should be more Villian crossover in general. But it seems of late that Villians are sticking to their arch enemies...which is sad.
I mean Kang has never faced the X-men. Count Nefaria has not faced the X-men since Thunderbird died (Right?)...Villians are all the same whether mutant or not, they all have to be stopped by Heroes...not just heroes they are mainly associted with..
The Lucky One
12-15-2005, 03:34 PM
To say Apocalypse would beat Dracula easily is a little far fetched. I think it would be a decent fight either way. I think ALOT of people don't give Apocalypse his due credit for some reason.
Because he's never given us any reason to. Trust me- I used to be like most people, convinced that Poccy was the absolute kewlest, most totally awesome bad-assest of all X-villains, gosh darn it! He ruled! Then I took a look back at history to see what he had actually done, rather than just what Marvel's press machine would have you believe... and it turns out he's been mostly getting by on hype. Lessee, last minute fill-in for the Owl, a 3rd-rate Daredevil villain, when the Simonsons decided he wasn't threatening enough. Gave Warren (lame) metal wings. Got beaten a few times without much trouble. Got punked repeatedly in the X-Cutioner's Song. Has yet to produce a single Horseman who was both A) threatening, and B) loyal over the long term... it's always either one or the other. Responsible for one of the worst X-crossovers of all time, The Twelve, where he was revealed to be... an old fart wearing armor. Then croaked.
Realistically, his ONLY real successes have been in alternate realities, like Cable's future or the Age of Apocalypse. So, okay, alternate Apocalypse? Kinda okay. (Though he STILL got punked by Magneto tearing him in half like a bitch.) Our Apocalypse? Lame. Case closed.
Now, Dracula? Nearly all of his classic enemies are dead, and he's the Lord of all Vampires. Kiss his arrogant European boot, Blue Lips.
;)
-D
Neolucifer
12-15-2005, 03:36 PM
The mismatch is in Apocalypse favor fight wise, much too powerful for Dracula to beat.
I think that Dracula could easily beat Pocy . You get a fair idea of his level of power in a few Mutant-X issues , aside from his Xmen encounters and ongoing series
Marvel doesnt seems to agree with you , if you believe the sollicitation for issue two :
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Welcome to 19th century London. A time of big hats, cobblestone streets...and Apocalypse! His centuries-long feud with Dracula is reaching a breaking point. And for the first time in his life, Apocalypse needs help! Guest-starring Abraham van Helsing!
The interesting tidbit being Apocalypse needed help , probably from Van Helsing to beat Dracula
The interesting tidbit being Apocalypse needed help , probably from Van Helsing to beat Dracula
It's out of character for Apocalypse to beg help from a simple human.
Neolucifer
12-15-2005, 03:47 PM
true i didnt think much about that one . And the sollicit doesnt really state weither it is him or someone else , for all we one he could just be stuck in the middle of the Pocy/dracula battle.
Grazzt
12-15-2005, 04:16 PM
Marvel Dracula's threat varies almost as much as Poccy's. Anyone have the scan of him fighting the Defenders?
En Sabah Nur...
12-15-2005, 04:51 PM
To say Apocalypse would beat Dracula easily is a little far fetched. I think it would be a decent fight either way. I think ALOT of people don't give Apocalypse his due credit for some reason.
And something that is bothering me...how in the world is Apocalypse alive after what Cable did to him? I mean, Apocalypse can regenerate from death, but his soul or essance or whatever was destroyed.....I hope they explain it, or Im just gonna have to tell myself Wanda did it.
this is in the past... before that...in victorian england...so about the time he got Sinister?
tjarvis
12-15-2005, 04:53 PM
Personally, this idea is so out there and WTF for me, that I have to at least buy the first issue to see what it's like. So in it's own odd way, it hooked me.
Loestal
12-15-2005, 05:10 PM
this is in the past... before that...in victorian england...so about the time he got Sinister?
I know, but they are bringing him back soon. I wasn't talking about the Apacolypse vs. Dracula book...my apologies.
wingsofdamnation
12-16-2005, 06:00 AM
and Apocalypse gets help from Van Hellsing to make matters worse
Neolucifer
12-16-2005, 06:14 AM
We dont know that .
Am I the only one who thinks this is stupid?
add "very"
:rolleyes:
Titan76
12-16-2005, 07:26 AM
Got beaten a few times without much trouble
In the early issues of X-Factor he did but after a while it always took the whole X-roster to bring him down.
Got punked repeatedly in the X-Cutioner's Song.
Because he was at near death and still was able to beat 5-6 X-men in seconds. Which brings into question how come he was at near death(I know how got there) during this whole story when he has a powerful healing factor and could just reform his wounds? Stuip plot-devices. :evilangry
Responsible for one of the worst X-crossovers of all time, The Twelve, where he was revealed to be... an old fart wearing armor. Then croaked.
God I hate Davis. I waited so long for this story to come out and when it did, I read this I wanted to burn every issue of this story. The old guy in a suit was one of the stuipest ideas I have seen. And people sometimes ask why the 90's were so bad. :evilangry
Realistically, his ONLY real successes have been in alternate realities, like Cable's future or the Age of Apocalypse. So, okay, alternate Apocalypse? Kinda okay. (Though he STILL got punked by Magneto tearing him in half like a bitch.) Our Apocalypse? Lame. Case closed.
Mainly because the writers were able to actually write him like he is supposed to be in alternate universes. The guy could control every molecule in his body he was too very powerful for all the X-men expect for maybe Iceman, Polaris, and Jean. Magneto tearing him apart was cool but it raise some questions like:
why couldn't he put himself back together or how could Magneto be able to do this (giving he only had half his power) when Apocalypse is capble of controling all of his molecules?
Apocalypse was a cool villain at first but Marvel really didn't know how to use the guy. One minute he is beating the crap out of the X-men and the next he loses because he forgot what his powers were. Like Magneto always forgeting that he could either sheild himself or rip Wolverine apart instead of getting stab by him all the all time. I hope Marvel knows what they are doing with him this time and can make some interesting stories with him(doubt though).
steve2275
12-16-2005, 07:52 AM
but yea the cover is sickkkk
yeah
i wanna PUKE
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