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kloudsurfer
12-13-2005, 07:59 PM
In HoM, there are the four figures (i think they were in #4 and another issue) in the church and they are shrouded in darkness so we cant see who they are (except for prof. X)

It is obvious that one of them is Wanda and one is Pietro and the one sitting down is Prof X, and I just assumed that the other one was Magneto.

But in one of the latter issues Magneto gets angry when he realises what Peitro and Wanda have done 'in his name', which implies that he didnt know that the world had been changed and that he didnt have a hand in any of it, therefore couldnt have been one of the four figures.

Is it just me or does that not make sense? Did i miss something?...

generalbradicus
12-13-2005, 08:43 PM
Seeing as this answer might solved in Son of M im not worried about it. Decimation just begun anyways.

The Fury
12-14-2005, 03:42 AM
Seeing as this answer might solved in Son of M im not worried about it. Decimation just begun anyways.
What if it isn't solved in Son of M?

Infact why wasn't it revealed in HoM?

I also am kind of concerend about who the other person was. If Wanda and Pietro were 2 of the hooded figures, who was the other?

I have my guesses but I hope that the the real person makes sense.

Erik Lehnsherr
12-14-2005, 07:47 PM
What if it isn't solved in Son of M?

Infact why wasn't it revealed in HoM?

I also am kind of concerend about who the other person was. If Wanda and Pietro were 2 of the hooded figures, who was the other?

I have my guesses but I hope that the the real person makes sense.

Dark Genesis is taking take of all the Xavier questions. Son of M is dealing with Quicksilver's dark descent into villiany.

The Fury
12-15-2005, 03:42 AM
Dark Genesis is taking take of all the Xavier questions. Son of M is dealing with Quicksilver's dark descent into villiany.
Villiany?

What villianly? He was the hero in HoM.

The Sword Is Drawn
12-15-2005, 04:10 AM
Dark Genesis is taking take of all the Xavier questions. Son of M is dealing with Quicksilver's dark descent into villiany.

It wasn't really Villainy. He just wanted to save his sister from being put to death. He didn't exactly think of the consequences, but he did it for a good reason.

Erik Lehnsherr
12-15-2005, 01:28 PM
Villiany?

What villianly? He was the hero in HoM.

No, no, no..in isssue #7, everyone at ground zero learned that it was all Quicksilver's doing. He's never gonna be viewed the same again in the superhero community. And the previews for future issues don't suggest heroic behavior either.

kloudsurfer
04-26-2006, 05:38 PM
Sooo...still hasnt ben addressed.

Im asssuming that the sole purpose of the fourth figure was to give the false impression that Magneto had some hand in it all, despite the fact that it DOESNT MAKE SENSE!!!

Thats pretty dodgy of them if you ask me. Are they just gonna ignore it in the hope that no one caught it?

fishtaco
04-26-2006, 06:01 PM
Xavier, Scarlet Witch, Magneto, and Quiksilver?

Jake V
04-26-2006, 06:05 PM
Wanda was hijacking Xavier's powers to help make it all happen. Magneto was there against his will as well, being controled by Wanda by way of Xavier's powers.

So yeah, it was Magneto, Xavier, Quicksilver, and Wanda in the church.

streator
04-26-2006, 06:43 PM
i agree that it was probably wanda, pietro, xavier and magneto.
but if it wasn't, i'd guess that maybe the other hooded figure could have been a future pietro (the gaunt one in son of m) or maybe the hooded figure running around in astonishing x-men.
but yeah, it was probably just the above four.

kloudsurfer
04-26-2006, 06:46 PM
Wanda was hijacking Xavier's powers to help make it all happen. Magneto was there against his will as well, being controled by Wanda by way of Xavier's powers.

So yeah, it was Magneto, Xavier, Quicksilver, and Wanda in the church.
Ohhh right. That never occured to me. I guess that does make sense then.

Erik Lehnsherr
04-26-2006, 08:38 PM
Wanda was hijacking Xavier's powers to help make it all happen. Magneto was there against his will as well, being controled by Wanda by way of Xavier's powers.

So yeah, it was Magneto, Xavier, Quicksilver, and Wanda in the church.

Where is the confirmation on this? It was always known since HOM #3 that Magneto, Xavier, Wanda, and Pietro were the original House of M before Xavier went missing. Are you just assuming or is there any factual proof?

The Fury
04-27-2006, 05:34 AM
Xavier, Scarlet Witch, Magneto, and Quiksilver?
It's not Magneto. That's the point.

You had Xavier, sitting in front og 3 people, if Quicksilver was one, Scarlet witch another, and Magneto had nothing to do with it then it wasn't Magneto.

Titan76
04-27-2006, 07:40 AM
If its not Magneto could it have been Polaris? She is part of the family too now.

The Fury
04-27-2006, 12:00 PM
If its not Magneto could it have been Polaris? She is part of the family too now.
Probably not. She was at the mansion with all the other members of her team...I think.

Unlike others above I belive it wasn;t Magneto becuase that was the point of it. All the socalled heroes assumed to was Magneto and were wrong. Didn't have anything to do with it. But there definately are 3 people.

Out of all the characters that were there...or on Genosha, there is one character I think it could be but to some it may seem like an unlikly choice.

Toad being that person. While he might not have had the best past with Magneto or Wanda, he has lately shown care for Magneto again after his "death" andmight still care for Wanda. He's not as stupid as he once was either. His place in the entire story was out of place, out of everyone who was "woken up", he was the most likly to side with Magneto and not help the heroes yet he did.

But a more damning evidence is this, the idea that Quicksilver had was to use Wanda's powers with Xavier to give all their friends what they want, or as close as possible. Fair enough I doubt the humans got a good deal and many other villians didn't either...but Toad did.

All Toad has ever wanted was respect and in the HoM world he had that. Was Magneto's right hand man for many years, now a member of one of the highest ranking and elite SHIELD teams. He was even writign a book about his expereinces. He had respect. But he was a villian. Wanda and Xavier giving him what he wants was out of place again.

Toad also, unlike Wanda and Quicksilver, is the only one who has the means to control Xavier. His 'wicked tongue' allows him to control anyone to his will unless they have immunities to poisens. Wanda and Quicksilver can't control Xavier but Toad can.

Xany Kaos
04-28-2006, 09:35 AM
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That...makes a little more sense than I'm comfortable with.


Be kinda cool though. Yay, conspiracy theories! (dangit, where're my HoM books to double check this...)

The Fury
04-29-2006, 03:55 AM
0.o

That...makes a little more sense than I'm comfortable with.

Be kinda cool though. Yay, conspiracy theories! (dangit, where're my HoM books to double check this...)
Yeah I know, a bit too close. Hopefully we will find out the truth.