View Full Version : Jones talks Nightwing *possibel spoilers*
Super Sonic
12-11-2005, 12:47 PM
http://www.newsarama.com/dcnew/Robin/Jones_Nightwing.htm
Very little said, and lead me to belive that Dick won't be Nightwing.
Nothing really revealed, pity.
Hope this hasn't been posted already. ^^
Young Avenger
12-11-2005, 12:57 PM
NRAMA: So there's a possibility that Dick isn't Nightwing?
BJ: Next question.
This answer scares me.
Super Sonic
12-11-2005, 12:59 PM
This answer scares me.
There was alot of stuff like that throughout the interview, and that cover art for #118.
This really leads me to believe that Jason Todd will become Nightwing. -_-
Actually this answer scared me the most:
BJ: If you don’t quit picking at those packages under the tree, young man, your father and I aren’t going to give you any Christmas at all!”
Is Willy Wonka now writing Nightwing?
Calamas
12-11-2005, 01:51 PM
Don’t read too much into this. It’s clear that these ambiguous answers are coming from the top when every creator in a new role or on a new comic gives them. DiDio wants to tease us into buying this stuff to find out. I’m sure some things in DCU have changed, but I find it hard to believe that *everything* has changed. Let’s wait and see.
(Spoken like there's another alternative.)
There was alot of stuff like that throughout the interview, and that cover art for #118.
This really leads me to believe that Jason Todd will become Nightwing. -_-
If so, would this mean Grayson's taking on the batcape (again) or dying in IC?
Super Sonic
12-11-2005, 02:11 PM
If so, would this mean Grayson's taking on the batcape (again) or dying in IC?
My money is on the Batsuit. ^^
Why would Dick abandon his Nightwing costume? And how on earth did Jason end up as Nightwing?
It doesn't make any sense.
I see Dick sacrificing himself during IC and Jason taking his mantle to avenge him.
I see Dick sacrificing himself during IC and Jason taking his mantle to avenge him.
Jason only knows how to kill people. By taking his place as Nightwing, Jason destroys everything Dick fought and "died" for.
Super Sonic
12-11-2005, 02:27 PM
Why would Dick abandon his Nightwing costume? And how on earth did Jason end up as Nightwing?
It doesn't make any sense.
That's why I'm buying IC, to see if I'm right, and if so, how it came to be.
Hey, one can change in one year...
Dennis K
12-11-2005, 02:28 PM
If Dick "dies" (death is relative in comics) doing something heroic, or sacrificing himself to save Jason, it could lead to Jason going through a fundamental change.
If Dick "dies" (death is relative in comics) doing something heroic, or sacrificing himself to save Jason, it could lead to Jason going through a fundamental change.
My point exactly.
Hey, one can change in one year...
Yes. Unless you've killed alot of people of course. Jason's bodycount should be somewhere between 20-50.
I can't see Jason ever returning to the bat-family not even as the black sheep. It's much too late for that.
Dennis K
12-11-2005, 02:45 PM
I can't see Jason ever returning to the bat-family not even as the black sheep. It's much too late for that.
It's comics, nothing has to be set in stone, and just think of how many stories could be based around Jason endlessly trying to earn back the Bat's trust. It doesn't seem too far-fetched if you consider it in that light.
It's comics, nothing has to be set in stone, and just think of how many stories could be based around Jason endlessly trying to earn back the Bat's trust. It doesn't seem too far-fetched if you consider it in that light.
Must I remind you he killed alot of people? He's my favorite Robin, but Nightwing? Get real.
Sean Walsh
12-11-2005, 04:48 PM
I can't see Jason ever returning to the bat-family not even as the black sheep. It's much too late for that.
Who's to say that he has to be part of the Bat-family by taking up the Nightwing mantle...?
Hell, who's to say there's even a Bat-family left anymore OYL?
Super Sonic
12-11-2005, 04:52 PM
Who's to say that he has to be part of the Bat-family by taking up the Nightwing mantle...?
Hell, who's to say there's even a Bat-family left anymore OYL?
Also who's to say who can be in the Bat-family is up to Bruce? ;)
colossus34
12-11-2005, 04:56 PM
I'm sorry but these interviews are total BULLSHIT! :mad: I don't even understand why writers are giving them if they don't answer a single question!! It just pisses me off, Dick created the persona of Nightwing (he is the only man for the job) Unlike Bruce's Cape and Cowl, Dick hasn't been training anyone to take his place so it doens't feel right for someone else to step into his boots.
When Dixon was on the books Nightwing was beginning to emerge as DC's next great iconic hero---a swashbuckling adventurer/crime-fighter who did his job with style and pizzazz like no other superhero. After Devin's terrible run I'm hoping Nightwing is picked up and allowed to shine again under a better writer. Dick deserves better because he still has great character potential!
Freelyx
12-11-2005, 04:59 PM
Well in my oppinion:
Anyone else trying to fill the Nightwing suit other than Richard Grayson is just WRONG and should not be contemplated, much less written and issued as part of their so called "fixed" continuity.
In my current financial situation I am unable to buy any titles at all, however were I able to buy them and were I to find that Dick Grayson was no longer Nightwing, I would not spend money on the title any longer. That says a lot as for some time I was only collecting two books and Nightwing is and was my favorite.
Of course they don't care if I stop reading Nightwing. And since I am not buying it already they really don't care. Still, one holds out hope that my views are not in the minority and that other readers will voice their disapproval to the DC establishment and perhaps cause them to find other ways to bring readership up for the best running title in the DC universe.
BonjourTragedy
12-11-2005, 05:10 PM
I think Jason Todd will replace Dick Grayson as Nightwing because look at the knife on the cover of #118 and go back and look at the knife that Todd uses on Onyx during Under the Hood. They look the same, so the only to options I can think of are that Dick Grayson dies and Todd takes it or Grayson kills Todd during IC and is now a fugitive and out of the Bat-family.
Brack360
12-11-2005, 05:27 PM
Nightwing, unlike Robin, is not a legacy character. Nightwing should always be Dick Grayson. I really hope that this Jason Todd is revealed to be from an alternate earth and goes away after Infinite Crisis.
Calamas
12-11-2005, 06:14 PM
Well in my oppinion:
Anyone else trying to fill the Nightwing suit other than Richard Grayson is just WRONG and should not be contemplated, much less written and issued as part of their so called "fixed" continuity.
In my current financial situation I am unable to buy any titles at all, however were I able to buy them and were I to find that Dick Grayson was no longer Nightwing, I would not spend money on the title any longer. That says a lot as for some time I was only collecting two books and Nightwing is and was my favorite.
Of course they don't care if I stop reading Nightwing. And since I am not buying it already they really don't care. Still, one holds out hope that my views are not in the minority and that other readers will voice their disapproval to the DC establishment and perhaps cause them to find other ways to bring readership up for the best running title in the DC universe.
I’m sure you’re not alone. While I don’t share your feelings for Nightwing as a character (I’m fairly neutral on the subject), I’m glad that you feel the way you do. And I’m glad you expressed yourself. If enough of you do, maybe in some way you will be heard.
In either case, well said.
DOVETAILS
12-11-2005, 07:01 PM
He's in new york, eh? Interesting. I wonder what the previews for dc comics shipping in february will be like.. Will they spoil nothing? Just cover images?
Sean Walsh
12-11-2005, 08:10 PM
I'm sorry but these interviews are total BULLSHIT! :mad: I don't even understand why writers are giving them if they don't answer a single question!!
Well, what's better PR: giving interviews with vague answers and some details, or turning away interviews because they don't want to spoil anything or go into any details? ;) :p
Captain Jim
12-11-2005, 08:16 PM
After reading the interview, I also left with the impression that Dick wouldn't be Nightwing OYL. Either that, or they're deliberately trying to mislead us (which is certainly possible).
I definitely don't see Grayson being killed off. Sooner or later he will be back as Nightwing, I'm sure.
Gauss
12-11-2005, 09:09 PM
While I'm thinking the cryptic hints point to Todd being Nightwing, has anyone considered that Dick might just be the one to put Jason down... permanently?
Could make for a big change in the character.
tjarvis
12-11-2005, 09:59 PM
I tend to think that Dick is still going to be Nightwing. The way that Jones talked about Dick's skills with the women makes me think that Jones is going to be handling the actual character.
I do hope this isn't another fugitive hero on the run story though, Jones beat that into the ground during his Hulk stint.
Tequilamokinbrd
12-11-2005, 10:13 PM
So how about this.....
Nightwing and The Red Hood engage in battle in the center of downtown Bludhaven with (insert stakes here) on the line. In the end, Dick Grayson finds himself in the same position Wonder Woman found herself in and kills Jason Todd with the 2nd Robin's own blade.
Bludhaven is destroyed in some Day of Vengance Shadowpacty type of deal, causing Dick to seek refuge in the city of his youth, Gotham. Batman reveals that he knew all along what role Dick played in Blockbuster's death, and had it just been that, Bruce may have been able to forgive his adopted son, but that combined with the fact that Dick not only just killed, but killed one who was once among their ranks, is just too much for Bruce to ignore. He shuns Dick and lets him know that he's not welcome in Gotham.
Dick with no place to call home sees himself as an Outsider, so he sets up shop in the same city he and his team of outsiders once did, New York.
Is that a good enough explaination of that cover that doesn't involve Jason Todd becoming Nightwing for no friggin good reason?
Murrocko
12-11-2005, 10:34 PM
So how about this.....
Nightwing and The Red Hood engage in battle in the center of downtown Bludhaven with (insert stakes here) on the line. In the end, Dick Grayson finds himself in the same position Wonder Woman found herself in and kills Jason Todd with the 2nd Robin's own blade.
Bludhaven is destroyed in some Day of Vengance Shadowpacty type of deal, causing Dick to seek refuge in the city of his youth, Gotham. Batman reveals that he knew all along what role Dick played in Blockbuster's death, and had it just been that, Bruce may have been able to forgive his adopted son, but that combined with the fact that Dick not only just killed, but killed one who was once among their ranks, is just too much for Bruce to ignore. He shuns Dick and lets him know that he's not welcome in Gotham.
Dick with no place to call home sees himself as an Outsider, so he sets up shop in the same city he and his team of outsiders once did, New York.
Is that a good enough explaination of that cover that doesn't involve Jason Todd becoming Nightwing for no friggin good reason?
Works for me.
Who's to say that he has to be part of the Bat-family by taking up the Nightwing mantle...?
Jason can do whatever hell he wants, but neither Batman, Robin or any of the outsiders will just let this pass. Taking the role as Nightwing will only ruin Dicks rep and no one in the bat-family will ever stand for that.
Dick killing Jason with his own blade sounds more reasonable to me.
hotrodimus
12-12-2005, 07:52 AM
the image on that link.. that supposed to be the cover of bruce jones's first issue right?
what came in to my mind is that that was actually Ravager...didint she have a sword also? given the events before IC, dick was "teaching" rose....
Nate Grey
12-12-2005, 09:47 AM
So how about this.....
Nightwing and The Red Hood engage in battle in the center of downtown Bludhaven with (insert stakes here) on the line. In the end, Dick Grayson finds himself in the same position Wonder Woman found herself in and kills Jason Todd with the 2nd Robin's own blade.
Bludhaven is destroyed in some Day of Vengance Shadowpacty type of deal, causing Dick to seek refuge in the city of his youth, Gotham. Batman reveals that he knew all along what role Dick played in Blockbuster's death, and had it just been that, Bruce may have been able to forgive his adopted son, but that combined with the fact that Dick not only just killed, but killed one who was once among their ranks, is just too much for Bruce to ignore. He shuns Dick and lets him know that he's not welcome in Gotham.
Dick with no place to call home sees himself as an Outsider, so he sets up shop in the same city he and his team of outsiders once did, New York.
I'm fairly certain this will happen as well, except for the Day of Vengence part. Why is THAT necessary? Dick killing a man, and the 2nd Robin at that, is enough for him to seek a place of comfort in and of itself.
Anyway, the clue that this scenario is most likely is at the end of Batman 647 when Batman himself admits this has to end. Batman just wants to do it himself, but it has to be done by SOMEONE. It'll just turn out that someone is Dick. THIS, I believe, would also be enough to send Batman to Arkham for a year, one "son" killing the other.
Forefinger
12-12-2005, 12:40 PM
Wait a second here. Is this the same Bruce Jones that ran Hulk into the ground? And now he's going to be writing Nightwing?
CURSD BLADE
12-12-2005, 06:29 PM
I'm surprised nobody has brought this up but: Who is this Joe Dodd? For all the announcements of new creative teams, we have seen some very prominent artists in the industry be moved onto titles such as Butch Guice on Aquaman, Karl Kershcl on Robin, Howard Chaykin on Hawkgirl, ect. Yet here we are, with a high profile scribe on Nightwing, yet some unknown penciler.
I am not saying that its a bad thing, in fact, what better way for a young talent to breakout then on a high profile character with a high profile writer? I am just curious who this guy is. Maybe I am the only one who hasn't heard of him.
Also, While Bruce Jones did do some damage on The Incredible Hulk, many forget that his initial year and a half on the book were great, suspenseful, character-driven comics. It was only because Jones' drew the plot out too long that the book eventually flopped. Jones has the potential to write a damn good story here.
Mister Intensity
12-12-2005, 08:28 PM
I have a feeling that Dick won't survive Infinite Crisis or at the very minimum, he gives up the costumed life.
Mister Intensity
Tequilamokinbrd
12-13-2005, 05:45 PM
I don't think the Day of Vengance part is needed at all Nate Grey, but it's the kind of thing DC's been doing lately to show everyone that everything in the DCU right now is a part of one big story.
Which is why we've seen effects of Day of Vengance in Gotham Central even though it doesn't fit when you compare it to the theme and tone of the rest of the run.
Nate Grey
12-13-2005, 06:01 PM
I don't think the Day of Vengance part is needed at all Nate Grey, but it's the kind of thing DC's been doing lately to show everyone that everything in the DCU right now is a part of one big story.
Which is why we've seen effects of Day of Vengance in Gotham Central even though it doesn't fit when you compare it to the theme and tone of the rest of the run.
I see. Well, regardless, I think you've called it. Which is a shame, cause I think I'm one of the few fans of the new Red Hood/Jason Todd, but based on that pic (which, admitadly, could be misleading) I don't see any other way it could turn out.
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