View Full Version : Wow...*Gotham Central #38 spoilers*
Guts/Batman
12-07-2005, 07:30 PM
Didn't see that ending coming...
Corrigan sure put more than a few bullets into Detective Allen at the end. That was crazy.
Sabrinaset
12-07-2005, 07:38 PM
What kind of Spectre is Corrigan gunna make...?
jerrymcl89
12-07-2005, 08:32 PM
I'm hoping it's Allen who's going to be the Spectre.
Lester C.
12-08-2005, 12:30 AM
The host of the spectre has been a person of moral ambiguity whose character encompasses good and evil. Allen is too good for the role and Corrigan is too evil. If you ask me the logical choice is Montoya.
The Batman
12-08-2005, 03:17 PM
^^^^
yup, i always thought that the Spectre was about redeeming someone who'd gone astray but still had the potential for good in them.
jadegiant77
12-08-2005, 03:38 PM
what actually happened in this issue? Spoil me, baby!
Guts/Batman
12-08-2005, 03:45 PM
It's not like Superman this week. There's just not a lot to spoil.
Corrigan is at his manipulating, corrupt and murderous best.
Montoya nearly breaks completely down. She is just at the end of her rope.
Corrigan pumps 6 bullets into Detective Allen's back.
ultramandingo
12-08-2005, 06:39 PM
like how rucka ignored all the crisis crapola and just went on with the cop stuff .that will show them to cancel his book , or not
Guts/Batman
12-08-2005, 06:41 PM
like how rucka ignored all the crisis crapola and just went on with the cop stuff .that will show them to cancel his book , or not
All the Batboooks are basically ignoring Infinite Crisis.
They just aren't ignoring the build up, that's all.
infoghost
12-08-2005, 06:48 PM
like how rucka ignored all the crisis crapola and just went on with the cop stuff .that will show them to cancel his book , or not
Rucka pulled the plug on GC, not DC.
steeler80
12-08-2005, 08:24 PM
Well, I was skimming through the solicits and ruined the ending for myself but it was still powerful and well-done. I'm beginning to agree that, based on past Spectre's characteristics, Montoya is the logical choice.
infoghost
12-09-2005, 05:59 AM
Montoya is my choice too. Hopefully this will put to rest the rumors of Batman becoming the Spectre.
A.Warlock
12-09-2005, 08:17 AM
Great ending. This book has been missing some cop killing action since the Joker arc. I do wonder though, isn't Gotham in the grips of a mystical superstorm or something since Shazam's Big Rock exploded?
And my prediction: DC will make the Spectre somebody recognizable to more DC readers, not just our little enclave of Gotham Centralites.
Sean Walsh
12-09-2005, 08:25 AM
It's not like Superman this week. There's just not a lot to spoil.
But man.......what does happen is quite powerful and more spoilerific than most other books...!
Guts/Batman
12-09-2005, 04:10 PM
But man.......what does happen is quite powerful and more spoilerific than most other books...!
Yea.
GC is one of those books you have to read to be able to know what is happening to the characters. Unlike other books where plot dictates the action in the book...
The characters dictate the action in the book. The characters dictate the plot unlike the other way around in most DC books these days.
Most of the story is in what the characters say to eachother.
Guts/Batman
12-09-2005, 04:11 PM
Great ending. This book has been missing some cop killing action since the Joker arc. I do wonder though, isn't Gotham in the grips of a mystical superstorm or something since Shazam's Big Rock exploded?
Gotham Central is.
In the other Bat-books, the RoE hasn't exploded yet.
Loren
12-10-2005, 07:35 PM
I'm hoping it's Allen who's going to be the Spectre.
I got the issue today, and I agree. I could imagine Rucka putting his favorite lesbian into the role, but it just didn't seem right.
This issue we see Crispus Allen on a very serious personal quest for justice. And last issue, which was frankly pretty pointless, did have one significant character point: after Allen talks about his atheism early in the issue, he finds himself turning to prayer with his family at the end.
Finally, at the end of the new issue, Allen gets six bullets in the back courtesy of Jim Corrigan.
So he's dead, and very recently so. That's a big plus in his favor as a candidate for the new Spectre. Dying in the middle of a search for justice, and not having finished it, also another big plus. Fans of the Spectre may also recall that the original Jim Corrigan's death involved a police snitch, as does Allen's.
And there's a third factor that's based on storytelling as opposed to story elements: what was the point of Allen's spiritual crisis in #37 if he's simply going to die in #38? If he's just plain dead now, then #37 was a complete waste of 22 pages and $2.50. If, however, he has a future ahead, perhaps a future that involves him becoming a spiritual agent himself, then the events of that issue *were* important to the reader, and will be relevant beyond this week's issue.
So my money's on Crispus Allen as the Spectre. Maybe it's a red herring, but all the pieces fit. My only question is how they'll draw a black guy as the Spectre.
The Xenos
12-11-2005, 11:31 AM
Well I'd say having a cop named Jim Corrigan in the book was a red Herring. Corrigan might be too corrupt to be Spectre. Plus he's not dead.
Montoya can't be thge canidate. We all know lesbians can't become the Spectre. ... Kidding! Naw, I just don't see them taking her out. Plus, she's also not dead.
Allen seems to be a perfect canidate. He was a good cop, but not quite a saint. Plus as Loren here just pointed out, last issue with im turning to prayer may be another sign.
I don't know why I wasn't thinking Spectre when I saw him shot. I totally forgot about all that speculation and jsut thought "AW CRAP".
-Xenos
IamtheRock3
12-15-2005, 09:59 AM
corrigan MUST PAY!!!!
UniqueFrequency
12-15-2005, 10:27 AM
And there's a third factor that's based on storytelling as opposed to story elements: what was the point of Allen's spiritual crisis in #37 if he's simply going to die in #38? If he's just plain dead now, then #37 was a complete waste of 22 pages and $2.50. If, however, he has a future ahead, perhaps a future that involves him becoming a spiritual agent himself, then the events of that issue *were* important to the reader, and will be relevant beyond this week's issue.
I thought about this last issue. In fact i thought Allen was gonna die LAST issue, because very often when a character gets THAT much spotlight in an issue, something's gonna happen.
so i think #37 happened either, as you say, because there is a future ahead of him or
so that his death this issue would be felt more by readers, after getting to 'know' him a little more last issue.
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