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jugernaut
12-06-2005, 03:17 PM
My friend told me that Gladiator fought a guy called Supreme. What are his stats? I was told that he was twice as powerfull as Gladiator :confused: This seems like a powerfull dude of which I've never heard of. Is he really a Marvel character?

thik_3rd
12-06-2005, 03:28 PM
he's not a marvel character. he's a image/rob liefeld/some other company after he left image character. he fought jugs? news to me. i think jugs was in the ultraverse for a while with those characters...maybe there was an ultraverse character named supreme i don't know about.

TheSentryLives
12-06-2005, 03:29 PM
He is a superman monologue created by rob liefield during image's early days. He then had Allan Moore write up the rest of the stories till the end of the series.

Rob tried to sell supreme to Marvel but they weren't interested.

borateen
12-06-2005, 03:36 PM
http://image.milehighcomics.com/istore/images/fullsize/35905358060.1.GIF

mattbib
12-06-2005, 03:37 PM
he fought jugs? news to me.LOL...where'd you pull that from?

Shellhead
12-06-2005, 03:44 PM
He is a superman monologue created by rob liefield during image's early days. He then had Allan Moore write up the rest of the stories till the end of the series.

Rob tried to sell supreme to Marvel but they weren't interested.

Yeah, they already had several Superman clones: Gladiator and a couple of Hyperions. And Count Nefaria.

Alistair
12-06-2005, 04:16 PM
He is a superman monologue created by rob liefield during image's early days. He then had Allan Moore write up the rest of the stories till the end of the series.

Rob tried to sell supreme to Marvel but they weren't interested.

Think you mean "analogue", dude :) If Liefeld did a Superman monologue it would go like this:

SUPERMAN: I can't speak... my teeth... are gritted too... tightly... legs... unable to support... ridiculous torso... head... too small... to fit... brain into...

thik_3rd
12-06-2005, 06:11 PM
LOL...where'd you pull that from?
dude's named juggernaut with a juggernaut avatar...take a wild guess.

Smarty Jones
12-06-2005, 06:53 PM
"Yeah, they already had several Superman clones: Gladiator and a couple of Hyperions. And Count Nefaria."

And don't forget The Sentry.

Asian Knight
12-06-2005, 07:07 PM
First off, which Supreme we talking about? As I did have a comic where Supreme fought and defeated Image's version of Thor. And then he I believe became God-version of Supreme.

Speaking of Supreme. What did happen to Supreme? I have another comic where Supreme lost his memory. And when fighting a team I think from Japan. Unleashed a eye beam blast accidentally turning the woman's face into a flaming skull or was it a skull made of ash.

Expletive Deleted
12-06-2005, 08:04 PM
Speaking of Supreme. What did happen to Supreme?Alan Moore started writing it, pretty much started the character over from scratch, and turned out a few years of high quality material. Checker Publishing recently released them in trade form as SUPREME: STORY OF THE YEAR, JUDGEMENT DAY, and SUPREME: THE RETURN.

Then Liefeld's company ran into some difficulties, Moore left, and the title kind of faded away.

gorosaurus
12-08-2005, 02:17 PM
There was an Ultraverse character named Prime who was very much like Superman.
I don't think Gladiator ever fought him, though.

DoomsDayDawning
12-08-2005, 02:27 PM
And don't forget The Sentry.

I wouldn't call Sentry a Superman clone, he's got a better backround, and on major difference.. the Void

Rich L
12-08-2005, 02:29 PM
I wouldn't call Sentry a Superman clone, he's got a better backround, and on major difference.. the Void

A better background?

Seriously?

jugernaut
12-09-2005, 06:05 AM
SUPERMAN: I can't speak... my teeth... are gritted too... tightly... legs... unable to support... ridiculous torso... head... too small... to fit... brain into...

hahahahahaha :D

jugernaut
12-09-2005, 06:11 AM
So he is an Image character. Has he got his own running cartoon or is it dead? Don't know anything about Image, but their characters are on a higher powerlevel than Marvel? What powers does this guys have? Is he just a stronger superman copy?

The Batman
12-09-2005, 10:24 AM
he started out as an Image character but left with Rob Liefeld when Liefeld left Image in the mid 90's. the character was pretty much a character in the Superman mold with Captain America's origin. the character's book was a fun read in a mindless action, power fantasy sort of way. the book was very much early 90's Image - style over substance but for some reason still fun.

Keith Gieffen turned him into a religious zealot, playing the Christ metaphor that's used with Superman alot only giving it a decidedly darker tone. it sort of went against what was going on in the regular Supreme comic and was really the beginnings of Supreme's continuity getting really messy. Legend of Supreme is nevertheless still an interesting little story.

Besides fixing his convoluted continuity Alan Moore sort of used the character as a vehicle to explore the Silver Age Superman universe, demonstrating that with the right treatment alot of those concepts could still work. in many ways Supreme became a way for Moore to tell Superman stories that he's never be able to tell at DC. the Alan Moore material collected in the Checker trades is worth checking out. it's a shame that things fell apart the way they did, Moore was doing some really good work.