Best Daredevil Origin

[The Master Meglomaniac]

What was a better origin DD, DD: Yellow or Man Without Fear?

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MAN WITHOUT FEAR. There were some glitches, but I thought it came off a lot better than YELLOW.

[Babylon23]

Definitely Man Without Fear.

[BizarroBeachHead]

But which one is the cannon origin?

Man Without Fear contradicts things even in Bendis' run.

[Expletive Deleted]

YELLOW.

MAN WITHOUT FEAR was Miller's pitch for a Daredevil movie that never happened, so he turned it into a comic book. Bits and pieces of it have filtered into continuity over the years, but it's not "canon."

It's still a better read, though.

[xfrancax]

I've just read Yellow and I'm about to go onto Man Without Fear. Yellow was way too depressing!
EDIT: but still pretty damn awesome.

[Sharcque]

I liked Yellow better.

[BizarroBeachHead]

YELLOW.

MAN WITHOUT FEAR was Miller's pitch for a Daredevil movie that never happened, so he turned it into a comic book. Bits and pieces of it have filtered into continuity over the years, but it's not "canon."

It's still a better read, though.
Yeah, thats the way I thought, though I hadn't heard about the movie pitch..

[anthony!]

Considering the success of Batman Begins, DD: Man Without Fear really should have been the Daredevil movie...it's part Batman Begins, part Unbreakable...

[rickfury188]

Yeah that's true. I liked YELLOW better.

[agrich]

Nothing in Man Without Fear improved on or really added to ground Miller covered in his run on Daredevil. I thought it was one of the most overrated comic book series ever, though I don't blame Miller for that.

I didn't pick up Yellow after the second issue...

[Will.S]

I actually prefer the DD: Yellow origin since it feels more heartfelt and heroic than Man Without Fear which was good too but I thought it felt somewhat cold and didn't match up with Matt's later adventures. Matt also killed which was odd, the martial arts and ninja magic angle was pretty cool but it's something I found strange to connect DD's abilities to under Stick's training.

I bought the Daredevil: Yellow HC a couple of days ago and re-read it. It's very fun and sad at the same time alongside Tim Sale's friggin GORGEOUS art. I loved the part where The Owl grabs DD and flies over the river in that underwater sequence. Purple Man was also way cool in that it looked like he gave off a purple aura on people as well as himself.

[Doom Hammer]

For me, it's The Man Without Fear and it's not even close.

There's some glitches, but it's still way better than Yellow. Yellow was kinda weak, in my opinion. It took you back to the origin, added some things, had some villain cameos, but lacked substance. What did it ADD to Daredevil's history?

Man Without Fear, on the other hand, was intense and awesome. It showed the birth and mentality of Daredevil, without relying on the outside influence of super-villains. It was just Matt and his mind versus those who crossed him.

I just bought the actual comics recently, and it's definitely one of my favorite comics.

[lboinyamouf4sho]

i loved man w/o fear, haven't read yellow besides the 1st issue.

[Drifter]

Not a HUGE Daredevil fan, maybe cause I havent really gotten in to any of his books, and just seen him in crossovers.... But for the sake of knowing character history... could someone give a brief description of the differences in each origion?

[Doom Hammer]

Not a HUGE Daredevil fan, maybe cause I havent really gotten in to any of his books, and just seen him in crossovers.... But for the sake of knowing character history... could someone give a brief description of the differences in each origion?

First off, Man Without Fear is a lot darker and more intense.

In terms of continuity differences: In The Man Without Fear, Matt's Dad is killed when Matt is a good deal younger, and Matt does not become Daredevil for many years afterwards.

Yellow is about Daredevil in his first months as Daredevil. Man Without Fear is about Matt before he becomes Daredevil.

For starters, at least.

[Doom Hammer]

By the way, Man Without Fear has to be at least partly in continuity, because the girl Matt "killed" became Typhoid Mary.

'97 Marvel Comics Annual Featuring Dearedevil and Deadpool, yes suh.

[StoneGold]

Here's the thing, Man Without Fear was all hardcore and badass. Some incredible art, with JRJR totally in his element (PLEASE let him do that Punisher story with Ennis he's been talking about for ages, PLEASE!) and Miller in the gritty noir thick of it, but without going into parody, like ASBM.

Whereas Yellow was nowhere near as cool, but more honest to how DD was when he was actually created. Which doesn't necessarily make it a better story. Just that it was trying for something completly different than MWF. MWF ripped DD's origins from the 1960s screaming into the 80s/90s. Yellow was looking back at the 60s origins from a modern standpoint.

[Doom Hammer]

Here's the thing, Man Without Fear was all hardcore and badass. Some incredible art, with JRJR totally in his element (PLEASE let him do that Punisher story with Ennis he's been talking about for ages, PLEASE!) and Miller in the gritty noir thick of it, but without going into parody, like ASBM.

Whereas Yellow was nowhere near as cool, but more honest to how DD was when he was actually created. Which doesn't necessarily make it a better story. Just that it was trying for something completly different than MWF. MWF ripped DD's origins from the 1960s screaming into the 80s/90s. Yellow was looking back at the 60s origins from a modern standpoint.

Very well said. That's completely accurate.

And I still prefer MWF.

[Will.S]

Here's the thing, Man Without Fear was all hardcore and badass. Some incredible art, with JRJR totally in his element (PLEASE let him do that Punisher story with Ennis he's been talking about for ages, PLEASE!) and Miller in the gritty noir thick of it, but without going into parody, like ASBM.

Whereas Yellow was nowhere near as cool, but more honest to how DD was when he was actually created. Which doesn't necessarily make it a better story. Just that it was trying for something completly different than MWF. MWF ripped DD's origins from the 1960s screaming into the 80s/90s. Yellow was looking back at the 60s origins from a modern standpoint.
Yeah, that's exactly how I see it.

[Babylon23]

Here's the thing, Man Without Fear was all hardcore and badass. Some incredible art, with JRJR totally in his element (PLEASE let him do that Punisher story with Ennis he's been talking about for ages, PLEASE!) and Miller in the gritty noir thick of it, but without going into parody, like ASBM.

Whereas Yellow was nowhere near as cool, but more honest to how DD was when he was actually created. Which doesn't necessarily make it a better story. Just that it was trying for something completly different than MWF. MWF ripped DD's origins from the 1960s screaming into the 80s/90s. Yellow was looking back at the 60s origins from a modern standpoint.

Good point. Both stories have their merits. I guess it depends on which version of DD appeals to you.

Some of MWF has been contradicted/retconned by Bendis, especially the part involving Kingpin. I don't know how much of it still remains as canon.

[Drifter]

Wow, thanks for the replies!

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