50 cent get rich or die trying

[bigman45]

this movie will pull in over a 100 mill e-z .. and he will win a oscor :eek:

[zombie]

this movie will pull in over a 100 mill e-z .. and he will win a oscor :eek:

The hell's he going to win an Oscar for?

[Legato]

The hell's he going to win an Oscar for?

Relax he was probably joking. It's like someone saying Uwe Boll winning a academy award for best director.

[Bruce Wayne Jr.]

this movie will pull in over a 100 mill e-z .. and he will win a oscor :eek:

Meanwhile, back on Earth 1...

Seriously, has anybody seen it? Any good?

Is it watchable, or is it Eight Mile? :p

[Matt K]

The hell's he going to win an Oscar for?

Worst movie of the year?

From what I heard if your looking for a decent film in this genre, watch Hustle and Flow instead.

[zombie]

Meanwhile, back on Earth 1...

Seriously, has anybody seen it? Any good?

Is it watchable, or is it Eight Mile? :p

Ebert liked it, but I think I'll wait for the DVD.

[bigman45]

8 mile was "ah" i give it a 8 out of 10 .. but thats about it ... this 50 movie shuld be good i mean come on they put it out on a wensday so they know its going to do big number 100 mill in 4 days but if you ask me Hustle and Flow is better then all them rap movies .. .. no i take that back crush groove is the joint :eek:

[SnowTrooper]

Watching the previews kinda looks like a cross between Four Brothers and 8 Mile, which both movies I loved, so ill probably rent it.

[Venoman]

bollocks.... sorry

[zombie]

It'll make all kinds of money, but I doubt 50 will make for a very good actor. Mumble mumble mumble.

[Watchman]

I'm sorry, but for the sole fact that I hate this "gangsta rap" crap, I won't be seeing this. Besides, I hate 50 Cent.

[bigman45]

you hate gangsta rap ??? you mean to tell me that you don't like 2 pac or B.I.G. ? what ! :eek:

[Bruce Wayne Jr.]

would you believe not everybody likes the same things?! :eek:

[zombie]

I think they should get Fiddy to write a Luke Cage comic. It'd sell like mad.

[Matt K]

I'm sorry, but for the sole fact that I hate this "gangsta rap" crap, I won't be seeing this. Besides, I hate 50 Cent.

Right there with you. I'm tempted to see Hustle and Flow but only because I heard in and of itself it's a good film.

[VCreed32]

I'm sorry, but for the sole fact that I hate this "gangsta rap" crap, I won't be seeing this. Besides, I hate 50 Cent.There's no need to base your not seeing it because of your musical taste.
This talentless a**clown should be enough.

[Watchman]

There's no need to base your not seeing it because of your musical taste.
This talentless a**clown should be enough.

Lol. True, true.

But still, it's obvious it's going to be something about "gangsta rap" and I did say I hate 50 Cent.

[Watchman]

you hate gangsta rap ??? you mean to tell me that you don't like 2 pac or B.I.G. ? what ! :eek:
I hate them. Sorry if that disappoints you.

[Astonishing X-Fan]

Pac and Biggie are/were great MCs who deserve respect.

Eminem, despite his lack of effort on some of his singles, has heaps of talent and deserves respect.

50 Cent is a lazy gimmick-dependant fad rapper who really doesn't put out good material anymore and who's taking glamorizing street crime to new lows.

[KenK]

8 mile was "ah" i give it a 8 out of 10 .. but thats about it ... this 50 movie shuld be good i mean come on they put it out on a wensday so they know its going to do big number 100 mill in 4 days but if you ask me Hustle and Flow is better then all them rap movies .. .. no i take that back crush groove is the joint :eek:

It came out yesterday because movies with predominantly black casts usually get released on Wednesdays to get a headstart on the box office. The studios don't expect it to compete with whatever else is playing this weekend. If they really believed it could make a hundred million, and in four days no less, they'd have made it a summer release on a Friday. What movie in November has ever made a hundred million dollars in four days, outside of maybe a Pixar animated feature?

[Anthony]

It came out yesterday because movies with predominantly black casts usually get released on Wednesdays to get a headstart on the box office. The studios don't expect it to compete with whatever else is playing this weekend. If they really believed it could make a hundred million, and in four days no less, they'd have made it a summer release on a Friday. What movie in November has ever made a hundred million dollars in four days, outside of maybe a Pixar animated feature?
Harry Potter might. It comes out next week I think.

[EZMOHR]

Every review I've seen on it says it sucks, and the only thing worse than the movie itself, is 50's, ahem..."acting."

[Mike Pothier]

50 cent is nothing but marketing tool. I have less interest in this movie then I did shopgirl. Thats pretty damn low.



Pac and Biggie are/were great MCs who deserve respect.

A movie about 2Pac I would definitely see.

[Royal]

this movie will pull in over a 100 mill e-z .. and he will win a oscor :eek:

No thanks. I'll actually put the same money in to rent Goodfellas again instead of this rehash.

[bigman45]

It came out yesterday because movies with predominantly black casts usually get released on Wednesdays to get a headstart on the box office. The studios don't expect it to compete with whatever else is playing this weekend. If they really believed it could make a hundred million, and in four days no less, they'd have made it a summer release on a Friday. What movie in November has ever made a hundred million dollars in four days, outside of maybe a Pixar animated feature?


only big name movies come out on a wensaday because they think its going to do big number it has nothing to do with the fact they black .Hustle and Flow came out on a friday all black with a few white people in it .. now do i need make a list so i can show that you are wrong :eek: .. harry potter is going ot do a 100 maybe 2 or 3 mill


Watchman
I hate them. Sorry if that disappoints you.
how you not going to like them ? tell me that. you know of them but don't like them why ? well who do you like "queens, kiss, korn, kid rock ," :eek:

and 50 is lame but the movie looks to be good i don't need somebody telling me its not good like Bruce Wayne Jr. said "would you believe not everybody likes the same things?!" if all them people got 50 cd don't you think they going to see the movie ? if a 12 million people go see it at 8 dolloers a pop thats what a lot of damn movey

[Trystenn]

My Gawd 50 cents ego has finally gotten so huge its now corrupting all forms of media :eek:


Soon we shall all be calling him Dollar.

[Bruce Wayne Jr.]

if all them people got 50 cd don't you think they going to see the movie ? if a 12 million people go see it at 8 dolloers a pop thats what a lot of damn movey

Once again, it looks like we're on two different wavelengths.

*Smile* *Nod*

[Watchman]

how you not going to like them ? tell me that. you know of them but don't like them why ? well who do you like "queens, kiss, korn, kid rock ," :eek:

and 50 is lame but the movie looks to be good i don't need somebody telling me its not good like if all them people got 50 cd don't you think they going to see the movie ? if a 12 million people go see it at 8 dolloers a pop thats what a lot of damn movey

Okay. Do I really have to explain why I don't like a particular brand of music? I hate it, alright? I just can't stand it. I love Queen, I like KISS, I hate Korn, I hate Kid Rock. I like classic rock (want a list of bands?), jazz, classical. I hate country and most rap (I like Beastie Boys and RATM). Is that enough for you?

Oh, and since you don't like people telling you what's good and not good, how about you don't tell others either?

And I heard the radio commercial, I just got tuned out. I will NOT be watching this movie.

PS: No, I didn't need a radio commercial to tell me it's crap, but I'm just justifying a position here.

[DanH]

I for one refuse to give my money to anyone who pretends to be a thug preach violence and the degrading of women but lives in the Richest part of CT.

[Cyke]

I for one refuse to give my money to anyone who pretends to be a thug preach violence and the degrading of women but lives in the Richest part of CT.

Thank you so very much.

[zombie]

I don't really care for 50's music or his way of using beefs for publicity, but you can't knock his hustle. He's getting his fingers into everything he can to make money while he's still hugely popular.

[VCreed32]

I don't really care for 50's music or his way of using beefs for publicity, but you can't knock his hustle. He's getting his fingers into everything he can to make money while he's still hugely popular.
Well, his 15 minutes are almost up, so you can't blame him.

[marshal99]

50 cents ? I imagine that's about the size of the brains of the people who watches his crud. ;)

[Matt K]

Well, his 15 minutes are almost up, so you can't blame him.

True, 15 min is about all most rappers get now a days. Of course if any of them had any decent music that might change. Then again I'm not a fan of rap anyhow so what do I know (like hip hop to some extent and some of the older "rap" artists).

[Guts/Batman]

I like his music but I'm gonna wait and see it once it gets to dvd, if...someone rents it.

[Murrocko]

Hate his music (like rap though, mostly underground), movie looks stupid and I would look like no one here is going to see it, if someone does happen to see it, please spoil the whole thing for me.

[eJm]

From the day I heard the words '50 Cent making his movie debut' I thought it was going to be stupid.

[Cyke]

From the day I heard the words '50 Cent making his movie debut' I thought it was going to be stupid.

I wouldn't mind if it was a cameo a la Steven Tyler. But to give him his own starring vehicle? Blech. It all just proves that acting is yet another thing that Tupac has over 50 Cent.

Hell, Ludacris got rave reviews for 'Crash' and 'Hustle and Flow,' and he didn't try to get a starring vehicle on his very first acting job.

[VCreed32]

Although he has taken some crap movies before, Samuel L. Jackson still had enough integrity not to be billed under a first time rapper.
Not rapper/actor, Fiddy is a pure rapper.

[Cyke]

Although he has taken some crap movies before, Samuel L. Jackson still had enough integrity not to be billed under a first time rapper.
Not rapper/actor, Fiddy is a pure rapper.

Aye. Sam Jackson has a policy against acting with rappers. The only exception to the rule is when he teams up with rappers he feels have been in the acting business for some time now, because at least they've got years of experience.

Which pretty much means that had Sam Jackson been in "Get Rich or Die Trying," Jackson would've capped 50 in the prologue.

[VCreed32]

Yeah, Ice Cube at this point, is an actor that raps.
I see nothing wrong with Sam's Choice. ;)

[Cyke]

I loved how Dave Chappelle was ripping on the fact that Jackson was eaten by a shark why LL Cool J lived :)

[bigman45]

'Crash' and 'Hustle and Flow was a good movie ... but help me with this why do you all hate 50 cent so much .. he is getting money .. and he got his hand in a lot of things ... you can't knock him for trying to act .. look at "ja rule" now he was just bad i never liked that guy from jump street .. i mean come on can you really look at a nother ja rule and steven seagal movie .. i know i can't at least 50 is trying to step it up and not just do side roles .. a nother person to do that is DMX .. he is a O K actor but he get the job done ... :eek:

Watchman Okay. Do I really have to explain why I don't like a particular brand of music? I hate it, alright? I just can't stand it. I love Queen, I like KISS, I hate Korn, I hate Kid Rock. I like classic rock (want a list of bands?), jazz, classical. I hate country and most rap (I like Beastie Boys and RATM). Is that enough for you?

look i am trying to see where you comming from .. if you say you don't like big and pac i need to know why .... maybe you can't relate to what they where about not saying that anything is wrong with that .. just saying that might be why you don't like that type of music .... i love queen i mean come they did the Highlander theme and i met kiss 3 times .. and not at some rock show to cool people ......my point is i feel what you saying :eek:

[Jamal]

I saw it last night and it was good but a little slow in some places. I have to admit that the main reason I thought it was good was because I've been following his storied history with Supreme and Ja Rule ( AKA Majestic and Dangerious in the movie ). I won't go into details but the movie made me understand a bit more about his beef with them and trust me it serious stuff. Once you know some of the truth then you will understand why he made this film. Now don't get me wrong I'm not a big fan of his music and I think a lot of the other "Beef" he's been having lately are dumb but I can give him the benefit of the doubt on this one. I suggest watching the matinee if you really want to see it and looking up some of these guys on the net to get a better understanding of what's really going on.

[Bruce Wayne Jr.]

Man Fatally Shot at 50 Cent Movie Screening
Date: Friday, November 11, 2005
By: EURweb.com

“Well, that didn't take long," someone with a cynical mind is saying somewhere. That cynicism is no doubt being directed at 50 Cent's violent new flick "Get Rich or Die Tryin'" because on Wednesday night in the Pittsburgh area a man was shot and killed after a screening of the movie.

The shooting happened at the Loews Cineplex at The Waterfront in West Homestead. Allegheny County homicide detectives are still looking for suspects.

Authorities say the victim, Shelton Flowers of Wilkinsburg, began arguing with the shooter in the men’s room and the argument spilled out into the lobby

"A policeman came in with a dog,” said Jonathon St. Jean, a movie patron. “Not too long after, everyone was asked to leave.”

Police also say Flowers had attended the 9 p.m. showing of the new movie and that he was accompanied by a woman. At EUR press time, they were still trying to locate the unidentified woman.

Police were also looking for witnesses to the shooting.

According to reports, Loews has decided to cease showing the violent movie while the police investigation continues.

"Get Rich" has been in the cross hairs of activists like Earl Ofari Hutchinson and Najee Ali for it violent content.


I might just have to wait until this hits cable... :p

[Cyke]

'Crash' and 'Hustle and Flow was a good movie ... but help me with this why do you all hate 50 cent so much .. he is getting money .. and he got his hand in a lot of things ... you can't knock him for trying to act .. look at "ja rule" now he was just bad i never liked that guy from jump street .. i mean come on can you really look at a nother ja rule and steven seagal movie .. i know i can't at least 50 is trying to step it up and not just do side roles .. a nother person to do that is DMX .. he is a O K actor but he get the job done ... :eek:



Dude, just because Ja Rule makes a movie doesn't automatically mean every rapper in existance should make a movie. Hell, I can't really think of any Ja Rule movie that's been good, period. And you better know damn well that Ja Rule was slammed when he made movies. It doesn't give every rapper the greenlight.

The thing about someone like, say, Ludacris, is that he's got the talent to act. And even though his songs have a lot of bravado, he's humble enough to know that he shouldn't automatically take up a starring role on his first try. Hell, it seems to me that when Ludacris takes a role, he actually reads the script and judges it by its quality. Side role nothing, if that 'side role' happens to get you noticed AND advance the story at the same time, then you'll go far. That's something he's done in the past year alone. Would you star in a crap film or take a supporting role in a great film? Essentially, would you be Pauly Shore or Michael Caine?

Same thing with, say, Ice Cube. I don't think he can act well. But he started in supporting roles and worked his way up to starring, and it took him years. He certainly had the clout to get a starring vehicle way back in the early 90s, but he took it slow, and in the process, he learned. He learned how to refine his skills, he learned how the business works. Now he's a bonafide movie star, and in some cases a bigger movie star than he is a music star. He knows how the movie biz works now, and he's a TV producer on top of everything else he does. And his rep eventually grew to the point where he gets some of the biggest acting talent in Hollywood to work WITH or FOR him. Now THAT is work. Not bad for a rapper who started his acting career with "side roles."

I'd get into the REAL reasons why I absolutely hate 50 Cent (ie, everything that's wrong with urban music today, completely forsaking what Rap and Hip Hop USED to be), but I'll spare you the rant for now. But if you really want to know, it's primed and ready.

[Matt K]

I think the funniest part (from what reviews I've read) is that this is supposed to be biographical and yet his acting is wooden. Seriously it's the story of his life and he can't even believably play himself.

[Elevation]

I know 8mile isn't a most cinematic masterpiece but it is my guilty favorite. For some reason I can watch that movie over and over again I think it is so awesome. I still get goosbumps at the last scene when he tells him to tell the wudiance somehitng they dont know about him then he throws the mic.

50 cent will probably not be a good actor and his movie will most likely suck. But to be inst it will probably end up making alot of money just because of his name

[Flawless P]

Meanwhile, back on Earth 1...

Seriously, has anybody seen it? Any good?

Is it watchable, or is it Eight Mile? :p
Whats wrong with eight mile?

I love that movie.

[Astonishing X-Fan]

Eight Mile was a great movie.

Anyway, 50's a scumbag that starts beefs for no reason and turns his friends into tools, and the ones who refuse to be tools he dumps. I can't respect him as a person.

[Flawless P]

I dont see any of his friends he has dumped. I mean the Game and him were at each others throats anyway.

50's Beefs = Publicity Stunts.

Albeit bad ones since he has to deal with Jadakiss.

[Grazzt]

I'd get into the REAL reasons why I absolutely hate 50 Cent (ie, everything that's wrong with urban music today, completely forsaking what Rap and Hip Hop USED to be), but I'll spare you the rant for now. But if you really want to know, it's primed and ready.

I'd love to hear it.

[Astonishing X-Fan]

50 dumped Game because Game refused to take part in 50's moronic beefs with Jada and Fat Joe. Everyone else in G-Unit falls in line whenever 50 goes on some retarded rampage, they're his yes-men. Now we've got Mobb Deep dissing Nas in magazines, right after they join G-Unit. They were real cool with each other before they signed on the dotted line.

50 Goes out there and picks fights with people for crappy reasons, then expects everyone around him to support what he does, or else, they're out.

[Nick Kal]

This was the best comedy of the year... sorry Wedding Crashers.

[Tadhg]

So. 18.2 million

[zombie]

So. 18.2 million

I was expecting a lot more.

[DarlingNikki]

in this entire thread, i've read TWO posts where the folks have actually seen the movie. it's one thing to hate on a movie because you've seen it and it sucks. it's another to hate on it simply because you don't dig the guy's music.

with that said, i'm not a 50 fan nor am i interested in seeing the movie. however, i won't diss the movie.

[Cyke]

in this entire thread, i've read TWO posts where the folks have actually seen the movie. it's one thing to hate on a movie because you've seen it and it sucks. it's another to hate on it simply because you don't dig the guy's music.

with that said, i'm not a 50 fan nor am i interested in seeing the movie. however, i won't diss the movie.

Hell, I'm dissing the man, not the movie. I admit that.

Even Ebert, who liked the movie and gave it thumbs up, wrote that there was a fundamental and dangerous difference between this film and "Hustle and Flow," and that he was there to review the movie, not give 50 some life counselling.

I'm not going to see the movie. It may be the greatest film of its kind since forever, but I refuse to support 50 with my $9.00.

[bigman45]

you know I went to go see the movie and it’s pretty good his acting was not bad. its was on point with I say a movie like any other the only flaw was some of the stuff in the was did not happened to 50 in real life I mean come on he pulls weirs out of his jaw and then starts getting it on with his girlfriend .. so just for get about all the blood that’s coming-out out his mouth... he still is going to eat her oput ..lol :eek: but you got to love it ...

but it was a good movie bill dukes did his thing all the O.G who keeps the peace .. there is nothing wrong with this movie and you can look at it all the time because of the feel of it .. better then "8 mile" , and state property but not better the "paid in full" or belly



Same thing with, say, Ice Cube. I don't think he can act well. But he started in supporting roles and worked his way up to starring, and it took him years. He certainly had the clout to get a starring vehicle way back in the early 90s, but he took it slow, and in the process, he learned. He learned how to refine his skills, he learned how the business works. Now he's a bonafide movie star, and in some cases a bigger movie star than he is a music star. He knows how the movie biz works now, and he's a TV producer on top of everything else he does. And his rep eventually grew to the point where he gets some of the biggest acting talent in Hollywood to work WITH or FOR him. Now THAT is work. Not bad for a rapper who started his acting career with "side roles."

look in time I think 50 could be a good actor this is his first movie you got to start some where like ice cube did in Friday he stared in that or like 2 Pac with juice .. time its all about time


ja rule just sucks and master p, but bout it bout it was a classic .. But ja rule sucks :eek:

I'd get into the REAL reasons why I absolutely hate 50 Cent (ie, everything that's wrong with urban music today, completely forsaking what Rap and Hip Hop USED to be), but I'll spare you the rant for now. But if you really want to know, it's primed and ready.

tell me i would like to here it

[bigman45]

18 million .. let down :eek:

[Anthony]

Now we've got Mobb Deep dissing Nas in magazines, right after they join G-Unit. They were real cool with each other before they signed on the dotted line.

That's the most blatant publicity stunt I've seen in a long time. And I've seen quite a few of them.

[Magneto_X]

That's the most blatant publicity stunt I've seen in a long time. And I've seen quite a few of them.

That's true. Rappers "fight" with each other just to help their careers.

50 Cent wouldn't be as famous as he is now if he didn't "fight" with ja Rule years back.

[DDM]

this movie will pull in over a 100 mill e-z .. and he will win a oscor :eek:

18 million in 5 days is not a success. It's a real bomb.

[Nick Kal]

Surprising # because the theaters in NY were full...

But then I found out his movie was pulled from theaters in places like Rhode Island because of it insighting violence in the theaters... there was even a shooting at one. Ha ha ha! :rolleyes:

Anyways, yeah I'm glad it did porrly because Hollywood needs to nderstand movies like this suck and should not be made... only if they want people to see soemthing blatantly stupid and laughable... which is why I went to see it.

[Cyke]

look in time I think 50 could be a good actor this is his first movie you got to start some where like ice cube did in Friday he stared in that or like 2 Pac with juice .. time its all about time


Ah, but see, that's what I'm arguing right there. Guys like Tupac and Ice Cube didn't get starring vehicles until they put in the time as supporting actors and bit parts. Even though Tupac had a movie deal in near-record time, he still put in a bit role here and there on TV.

Whereas 50's very first feature is a starring vehicle. You're right, it takes time, but 50 just jumped the gun. And 18 mil after 5 days? He jumped the gun REAL bad.

If 50 started in bit parts, then got up to supporting, I'd have no issues with him taking up a starring part. But to get a starring role on your first try? Geeze, if that's not generous, I don't know what is. I don't care who you are, you've got to pay your dues. Tupac and Ice Cube did before they became movie stars. Cube's acting career didn't start with Friday. He did five movies before that, all with supporting roles, with much of the work in ensemble casts, where the main cast got equal focus and no one outshined another.

It's like Tom Cruise becoming the starting pitcher for the White Sox simply because he won a few Oscars. Sure, he could become a good pitcher over time, but that's what training camp and the minor leagues are for.

tell me i would like to here it

Okay. This is my opinion, but I guarentee not a lot of people are going to like it. As I said before, I'm dissing the man, not the movie, but I still wouldn't pay money to see it. I also guarentee that this post is going to start some flaming, either for or against it. I don't care, I just like the opportunity of posting up an opinion.

My primary beef with 50 Cent is that he's one of the personifications of everything that's wrong with the Rap/Hip Hop world as we know it. Wayyyyy too much emphasis on violence, bling, and bitches, but he's also making it more mainstream than it ever was. What's worse is that, in the process to make more money, he's glorifiying it, despite the fact that he's nearly died a number of times and exploiting it. He's essentially leading the charge of style over substance.

I remember the days when Rap used to be more about wordplay and skill than it was about bragging about how many chicks you could do in a single night. He's proud of being a thug? Okay... one would think that after getting shot 6 billion times, they wouldn't brag about it. The sad thing is, many of the underground, those with actual skill with intelligent references and clever rhymes, are being overlooked, while now there's a whole wave of imitators who are focusing on gold chains than actual lyrical content. Hell, as good as Eminem is, even HIS skill is getting overshadowed by 50's videos. Again, style over substance. Eminem doesn't do much for me, but when his vaunted wordskill is taking the backseat to how many women surround 50, there's a problem.

It seems sad these days that the kind of music that draws more from poetry and old school rap is classified now as "Alternative" Hip Hop. I can't, for the life of me, figure out why artists like Jill Scott, Talib Kwali, and Common, and legends like Tribe and De La Soul get overshadowed by whatever beef is going on between 50 and whoever. It's less about Rap and Hip Hop these days and more about WWE-style promotion at this point. I don't care who the hell is fighting with who. I want to see talent. We're not seeing songs, we're seeing hype.

Where's the respect for the women and the call for peace? Where are the deep social messages and the clever metaphors? That's like, one song in every CD now. Back in the day that was the ENTIRE CD. Tupac, rest his soul, had his gangsta rap, but he also had his soulful works and his pieces of emotional insight to go along with it. He balanced it, and even then his gangsta rap had references to 1960s American literature and Allan Ginsburg. He was that smart. We're seeing less of that intelligence and depth as the years go by.

There was a time, sometime in the mid to late 90s, when Rap/Hip Hop was proclaimed to take over the reins and continue the traditions of Marvin Gaye, Bruce Springsteen, and U2. That is, Rap/hip Hop was to be the modern voice of social awareness and civil unrest wherever it was needed. By virtue of its poetic style, it could potentially have more punch than a rock anti-war song because the traditions of spoken word would be used more in the Rap style. And you would get that. Some would sing about escaping the violence of the inner city. Some would be anti-war. Some would be about politics in general. It's rarely the case now. Now we have songs where we have to imagine 50's damn magic stick. As Ebert said about the movie (and he *liked* the movie), the story has 50 exploiting the drug world as much as possible before he left it. Now how in the hell is that a good thing? Sure, music is also made to be enjoyed, to have fun with, but 50's treatment of women and the glorification of violence contradicts the idea of having a blast at a club, since, y'know in reality, you'd be surrounded by women and you'd like to avoid a fight as much as possible or else you'd get kicked out.

Rap used to be a tool for having sheer fun or making a social stand. Even in gangsta rap of the early 90s, you'd get a song about how a guy has to kill but wishes that wasn't the way. Now most mainstream Rap is one giant pissing contest to see who has the bigger dick, who can shove who more, who can get banged the most, and who can make the most money. Now, 50 didn't start the whole trend. But he's become the figurehead. He's its leader, especially since he's surrounded by yes-men, and that's something I can't really stand by.

*****

There's something to be said about the protesters of this flick, the ones who were up and running after Wednesday's premiere but before that shooting by the theater. The ones who are picketing this film aren't some right-wing censorship group that you see at films like Dogma. They could be easily dismissed, since they clearly jumped the gun before they even saw the first ad. However, the vast majority of the protesters for 50's movie are inner city people who see this kind of violence on a daily basis, who work night and day to try and stop the violence but keep losing every hour. A far cry from your average run-of-the-mill soccer mom protester, and from them you get a sense of more conviction from the anti-50 crowd than any of those soccer mom protestors who are there simply b/c someone told them to be there.

[Nick Kal]

Great post Cyke.

P.S. 50 is not and will never be a good actor... or actor. period.

[Guts/Batman]

It's like what Xzibit said on Loveline last night, he just wants to get his feet wet for now. That's why he has taken small roles in movies.

8 Mile (not that I knew he was in it) and now he is in Derailed. Sometimes you gotta pay your dues before you can have the big roles.

[Cyke]

It's like what Xzibit said on Loveline last night, he just wants to get his feet wet for now. That's why he has taken small roles in movies.

8 Mile (not that I knew he was in it) and now he is in Derailed. Sometimes you gotta pay your dues before you can have the big roles.

I didn't know that he was in Derailed. I was going to watch that movie anyway because I like Clive Owen and Jennifer Aniston. I just found out that RZA was in it, as well. But Xzibit, too? That'd be interesting to watch.

Checking up imdb.com about Derailed, I also came across Snoop Dogg's bio. His list of movies is damn impressive, and twice as long as many other rapper-actors. But I don't think he's had a starring role (other than Coach Snoop, and that's coming out in 2006). They've mostly been supporting roles or cameos.

[Guts/Batman]

I was surprised to hear that myself...

[bigman45]

snoop had the movie bones ! i know you remember that one it was a horror movie :eek:

[monkeysweat]

Now we've got Mobb Deep dissing Nas in magazines, right after they join G-Unit. They were real cool with each other before they signed on the dotted line.
Nah. Mobb Deep had issues with Nas long before they signed with G-Unit. That friendship soured a while ago.

And the beef with Ja Rule is real and goes beyond rap music. I've heard its origins are detailed in the movie. Under pseudonyms, of course.

[Nick Kal]

Yes Ja Rule is Dangerous. :D

[Royal]

I didn't know that he was in Derailed. I was going to watch that movie anyway because I like Clive Owen and Jennifer Aniston. I just found out that RZA was in it, as well. But Xzibit, too? That'd be interesting to watch.


You wouldn't like it.

[Cyke]

snoop had the movie bones ! i know you remember that one it was a horror movie :eek:

Yeah, I forgot about that. But even then, before AND after Bones, he's been doing supporting roles and cameos. Bones wasn't the first acting gig he ever did.

You wouldn't like it.

Without the spoilers, can I ask why?

[Royal]

Without the spoilers, can I ask why?

Vengeful White Man Fantasy.

[Cyke]

Vengeful White Man Fantasy.

Ooooooh...

...you mean kind of like the roles that Michael Douglas seems to love.

[Royal]

Ooooooh...

...you mean kind of like the roles that Michael Douglas seems to love.

eehhh.

It's not as bad as Black Rain, but it's bad.

Black Rain makes gai jins hate the "gai jin".

[Cyke]

Is it as creepy as A Perfect Murder? Dude was such a bastard there.

But he was fun in Falling Down.

[bigman45]

you know LL had a staring roll in " in to deep " :eek: and he went on to do biger and better things :eek:

[VCreed32]

you know LL had a staring roll in " in to deep " :eek: and he went on to do biger and better things :eek:It wasn't his first movie ever.
Are you missing the point or doing something else?:confused:

[Cyke]

you know LL had a staring roll in " in to deep " :eek: and he went on to do biger and better things :eek:

Errr...

The guy had NINE (9!!!) movies before he landed In Too Deep (including Halloween: H20, Deep Blue Sea, Toys, The Hard Way -- all of them supporting parts or ensemble casts) and even then, in his first starring role (Out of Sync), the movie was direct-to-video.

Hell, after In Too Deep, he went back to films like Any Given Sunday and SWAT. He wasn't the star of those flicks.

Really, are you missing something here? Damn near every rapper-actor you name, they had experience before the starring role (oftentimes, like Snoop and LL, they got YEARS of experience under their belt). Not 50. The rest of them actually WORKED as actors.

[bigman45]

ok ok ... :eek: hold up what about master p ?

[bigman45]

ok ok ... :eek: hold up what about master p ? .. remember bout it bout it .. and then he went on to do i got the hook up ? foolish .. and a few more

[VCreed32]

Master P made those movies, what is your point?

[Jamal]

I don't understand this arguement, this movie is based ( partly ) on his life so who else was going to play him? From what I understand Jim Sheridan came to him about doing the movie in the first place.

If this was a different movie like say "Black Scarface" I would agree that he shouldn't be the star but it's a movie about his life; why not have him star? This way if it bombs they don't blame it on a trained acter who gets bumped down the hollywood list because someone says he played 50 wrong?

[billdo75]

Was I having some sort of acid flashback last night or did I see an advert for a 50 Cent video game as well?? Yeah, a 50 Cent video game... :rolleyes:

[VCreed32]

I don't understand this arguement, this movie is based ( partly ) on his life so who else was going to play him? From what I understand Jim Sheridan came to him about doing the movie in the first place.

If this was a different movie like say "Black Scarface" I would agree that he shouldn't be the star but it's a movie about his life; why not have him star? This way if it bombs they don't blame it on a trained acter who gets bumped down the hollywood list because someone says he played 50 wrong?
It's not that he's playing essentialy himself.
It's who is is roody-poo, candy-a** to deserve his own movie?

[Jamal]

Who was Eminem to deserve his own movie? It's all marketing, strike while the guy is hot because pretty soon know one is going to care.
Plus he get to show a little bit of why he hates Supreme ( Majestic in the movie ) and Murder Inc ( Ja Rule's label ) so much. It's win,win for him and hollywood so why wouldn't they do it. Like I said before I'm not a big fan but don't knock the hustle even though you don't like the man. That's just being a hater and he doesn't deserve that much thought.

[zombie]

Was I having some sort of acid flashback last night or did I see an advert for a 50 Cent video game as well?? Yeah, a 50 Cent video game... :rolleyes:

Yeah, it's coming. I heard something about a G Unit book label as well.

[VCreed32]

Who was Eminem to deserve his own movie?
That doesn't make it any better.
Bad behavior does not excuse worse behavior.

[Young Avenger]

I think they should get Fiddy to write a Luke Cage comic. It'd sell like mad.

I think he will fair better writing a Black Panther comic.

[Nick Kal]

He can write?

[Cyke]

I don't understand this arguement, this movie is based ( partly ) on his life so who else was going to play him? From what I understand Jim Sheridan came to him about doing the movie in the first place.

If this was a different movie like say "Black Scarface" I would agree that he shouldn't be the star but it's a movie about his life; why not have him star? This way if it bombs they don't blame it on a trained acter who gets bumped down the hollywood list because someone says he played 50 wrong?

Ah, but the thing is, should someone have written a movie based upon his life in the first place?

Should said-script have been approved in the first place?

As was said earlier, the movie was more about the exploitation of the drug world than escape from it. Doesn't sound like it's that much of a 50 Cent life story to begin with, at least by the way he's said it in interviews.

'Primary Colors' was a movie about Bill Clinton, essentially. Yet, they didn't get Bill Clinton to star, b/c he isn't an actor. They got John Travolta, who had 20 years under his belt.

[Magneto_X]

I think he will fair better writing a Black Panther comic.

He'd fit better with Cage.

Somehow I doubt "Fiddy" would understand an African monach that dresses up as a panther and is a master political strategist that even *Doom* respects.

[Cyke]

Who was Eminem to deserve his own movie? It's all marketing, strike while the guy is hot because pretty soon know one is going to care.
Plus he get to show a little bit of why he hates Supreme ( Majestic in the movie ) and Murder Inc ( Ja Rule's label ) so much. It's win,win for him and hollywood so why wouldn't they do it. Like I said before I'm not a big fan but don't knock the hustle even though you don't like the man. That's just being a hater and he doesn't deserve that much thought.

I hate that "don't be a hater" thing. It fails to acknowledge any deeper points into an argument and then lumps all of one side into simple displeasure for the other side. Nothing is EVER that simple, and to reduce things to that level of simplicity can lead to very dangerous consequences. It's a throwaway, catch-all idea, akin to "Zero Tolerance."

That said, nobody in this thread said Eminem deserved his own movie. Most recognition of any kind concerning the movie came from the soundtrack, as opposed to actual content in the movie. And 50's movie is hardly a win-win for Hollywood as 50's movie was projected to take the #1 spot, but instead fell far short of that goal.

Don't you think LL Cool J, Ice Cube, or Snoop Dogg or the others struck the iron while they were hot? They could've landed a starring movie 10 years ago and earlier. But they didn't listen to their egos, they listened to their brains. They actually put in the TIME and the EFFORT to learn to become actors. That's wise on their part, and people accept them, and sometimes critics praise them (Tupac is one of the most celebrated rapper-actors of all time). It should be noted that Ice Cube took a harder, more concentrated path in movies than Master P. Master P got starring roles first, but who gets in movies that make $100 million and gets producer credits at the same time? It sure as hell ain't Master P, it's Ice Cube, a man who dedicated time into the craft.

Let's put it this way. Let's say R. Kelly gets so many consecutive billboard hits that he decides he's entitled to become whatever he wants, and what he wants is to become an airliner pilot. Except he's never flown a jet before. EVER. Yet the airliner gives him his own plane and 150 passengers. Now, isn't that bad news for R. Kelly, the passengers on the flight, and the airliner itself? This is why jet captains have to go through training courses, go through co-pilot courses, and log in hundreds of hours before they become pilots. It's the same thing with acting. You've got to put in your dues before you can begin to become the pilot of a film. And, from what we've seen, 50's film crashed in theaters. For his sake, I hope he does better in the DVD market, as that would be his life-raft.

Getting special benefits in another, unrelated field simply because of name recognition is one of the greater crimes in this nation. A celebrity gets an honorary doctorate free of charge simply b/c he had a sitcom, whereas thousands upon thousands of students are starving each night because they have to pay for years and years of education to get an actual doctorate.

[Cyke]

ok ok ... :eek: hold up what about master p ? .. remember bout it bout it .. and then he went on to do i got the hook up ? foolish .. and a few more

His first two starring roles were direct to video, hardly blockbuster-potential. And, y'know, damn near everyone who stars in a B-movie and makes a career out of it isn't a household name in the acting biz.

His next flick, The Players Club, had Jamie Foxx and Bernie Mac receiving higher billing than he did, in addition to widespread theatrical distribution.

[sgt.candy]

whats this stuff about eminem hating supreme? sounds interesting

[Jamal]

Cyke, your reading to much into my post.
When I mentioned Eminem I was saying that neither one of them deserved a starring role in a movie but the "Marketing" thing to do is if the movie is about someone life ( and they are still alive or not old ) then use them. Long as they can say their lines hollywood doesn't care. Even if the movie not number one they still get their money back from overseas screenings and dvd rental, more because people want to see if the guy can act.

Case in point Muhammad Ali starred in a movie back in 1977 called "The Greatest" which was based on his life so do you think that wasn't a marketing decision? Now Muhammad wasn't the best actor but do you think they would have cast Will Smith in " Ali" if they had a young Muhammad in 2004?

Like I stated before if this was just any movie and he was starring I would agree with you but it not this about his life ( part of it ).

And Ice Cube has said many times that he wasn't thinking about acting till John Singleton convinced him to do Boys in the Hood. He wrote "Dough Boy" specificly for Cube so his first role was not a supporting role by chioce.

Eminem does not have beef with Supreme; 50 cent does over the "supposed" involement of Supreme in his mothers death. "This is NOT a proved fact"

[Cyke]

Cyke, your reading to much into my post.
When I mentioned Eminem I was saying that neither one of them deserved a starring role in a movie but the "Marketing" thing to do is if the movie is about someone life ( and they are still alive or not old ) then use them. Long as they can say their lines hollywood doesn't care. Even if the movie not number one they still get their money back from overseas screenings and dvd rental, more because people want to see if the guy can act.

Case in point Muhammad Ali starred in a movie back in 1977 called "The Greatest" which was based on his life so do you think that wasn't a marketing decision? Now Muhammad wasn't the best actor but do you think they would have cast Will Smith in " Ali" if they had a young Muhammad in 2004?

Like I stated before if this was just any movie and he was starring I would agree with you but it not this about his life ( part of it ).

And Ice Cube has said many times that he wasn't thinking about acting till John Singleton convinced him to do Boys in the Hood. He wrote "Dough Boy" specificly for Cube so his first role was not a supporting role by chioce.



Does this type of entitlement make it RIGHT? That's what we're arguing here. We're not arguing the marketing decisions, primarily. And, as always, ultimately 50 has the right to turn down these types of offers. Based on his ego, obviously, he hasn't.

Think of it like this: years ago, cigarette companies used to market that tobacco wasn't addicting. Were they right? Not at all. People didn't stomach it simply because marketing told them to.

These types of marketing decisions happen all the time. We don't question that the motivation is about money. That's all marketing is, ultimately. But then the content behind the motivation, THAT's what we're questioning here. We're questioning 50's decision to take the part, or even to greenlight the project in the first place.

Hell, there've been maybe one or two movies about Michael Jordan's life. He was approached for it, but decided not to do it (let's not get into Space Jam here, which was made after he turned down those movies. And Jordan was pretty damn stiff in the movie anyway).

As for Ice Cube:
1. like I said before, when people are approached, they can have a choice: either take it or leave it. No one is forced to take a part. Back in 1990, he could've held out for a lone title role. He could've refused John Singleton. He had those choices.
2. Even then, after the success of that movie and after critics started talking about his skill, he still chose to take supporting roles for years.

[Young Avenger]

Somehow I doubt "Fiddy" would understand an African monach that dresses up as a panther and is a master political strategist that even *Doom* respects.

Hudlin can't do it neither and hes writing the book.

[Magneto_X]

Hudlin can't do it neither and hes writing the book.

I never said I liked Hudlin's BP work.

But at least he's the president of B.E.T.

[Matt K]

Was I having some sort of acid flashback last night or did I see an advert for a 50 Cent video game as well?? Yeah, a 50 Cent video game... :rolleyes:

The video game is called 50 cent: Bulletproof, which is ironic to say the least.

Bulletproof, more like a bullet magnet.

[Magneto_X]

The video game is called 50 cent: Bulletproof, which is ironic to say the least.

Bulletproof, more like a bullet magnet.

He's just lucky the guy who shot him wasn't a good shot. If the guy jusxt shot him execution style "Fiddy" would be 6 feet under, not a major rap-star.