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SUPERECWFAN1
11-08-2005, 02:52 PM
A whole new era seems to be slowly happening before our eyes. Whethor by choice or by Johnny Ace's repeated bundling as V.P of Talent now the WWE seems intent on marching ahead by signing muscle bound rejects and letting solid over stars jump away.

Least Ace landed the one guy he needed to at least keep his job til the losses add up in TNA by 2006. By getting Joey Styles , Johnny Ace looks like a genuis. The guy that WCW and the WWF always wanted but never could manage to get landed. So thats the only positive thus far for Johnny Ace in whats being called a bad year by letting The Dudleyz skip town to TNA and letting Christian walk out as well.

Onto News:

Bret Hart made an appearance at a wrestling show this week and denied rumors he is going to return to the ring. Hart did say he wishes that he could have 1 final match against: Shawn Micheals,Chris Benoit, Randy Orton or Kurt Angle as his wish. But said he couldn't. ( I still think like Styles ...he'll come in un-expected and dare someone to a match and go over. Kurt Angle most likely.)

A settlement call for the Brock Lesnar/WWE Lawsuit is in the works for 12/15 . This will be the final end to thier settlement that allowed Brock ro earn a living in Japan.

The WWE called the USA Network about the Jim Ross ads. Once they got Joey Styles it became clear that angle with Coach wasn't gonna happen so they wanted the ads removed. It was too late in some areas and the USA Network were the ones running the ads , not the WWE.

In an interview with the Seatle Times , Greg Helms talked about the dropped " Hurricane " gimmick and all. In it Helms states that originally the charactor was supposed to last 3 to 4 months but helped last 4 years. No credit goes to the WWE who once they even managed to get Helms over as the super hero Hurricane , they would bury him the next week. For futher proof look up Tommy Dreamer.

Sadly...Kurt Angle isn't lying about his marriage. Karen and Kurt Angle seperated a few months back. Wrestling isn't a great business for most family's and sadly even an Olympic Hero sadly lost this one.

The WWE sent Edge to Smackdown to futher the Survivor Series angle and to work Edge's injury into storylines. Odds are Batista will beat up Edge a lot and they'll work that angle. I can see Edge/Batista at Wrestlemania under this plan.

The police officer who plotted to rob Jerry Lawler's home was sentenced to 7 years in jail yesterday.


onto RAW:


The Good: The show started with everyone surronding the ring nearly. Bischoff wanted 5 guys for the RAW/Smackdown Survivor Series Elmination Match. So he plugged the current tag champs: Kane/Big Show in and named Shawn Micheals " Captain " of the team.

Carlito wanted a slot and and he acted pretty serious and demanded a shot. Shelton Benjimen ( free from jobbing to evil caddies and inantimate objects finally) wanted a match to get the spot. Bischoff made that match.

Then Cade and Murdoch spoke up about wanting the belts back and they wanted a Hardcore Tag Title match. Joey Styles who , by god , is perfect right now stated thats pretty much the only way they could win by using weapons against Kane and Show !

That match was set. Funny moment with Mickey Jay as she plugged how good Trish Stratus is. Bischoff tried to not look on in cynical shock as he went on. He then made Flair/HHH:Last Man Standing at Survivor Series.

Now how glad is Shelton Benjimen to have Joey Styles calling his matches ? Styles really sold Benjimen's moves and close falls and he really showed that ..if they paired to a 2 man booth he could take Lawler's role right now. He's that good. It amazes me that Joey stayed so good while he was gone and this was PERFECT for RAW right now.

The match was good til Carlito won by the ropes. In the end Shelton continues his jobbing streak. I suppose Ace is waiting til Shelton hits the rods then to push him.

The replays of the PPV moment were solid enough but they really did nothing with the short lived Vader and Goldust returns. As well as not having Foley show up. Thus far the returns of Hogan,Austin and Foley have done ZILCH for RAW.

The Flair match wasn't so bad. It was decent with Conway and they sold the HHH/Flair fued futher.

Kurt Angle comes out and in the funniest "Bret Hart" like moment of the night he nearly goes insane on fans for chanting " You Suck " during his entrance. Kurt demands they show him respect declaring the terrible sad price he's given to fans and this business.

Styles does another witty remark: " With a man who claims he has 3 I's and the one is Intelligence , he doesn't really believe this will work does he ? "

Angle finally stages a walkout as a stressed Bischoff comes back. Bischoff claims he will do right by Kurt and let him pick the guest referee. Bisch also says he will figure a way to silence the fans. This turns out to be a wild funny WCWish type situation.

The Hardcore Match wasn't much with Kane and Show killing the former Champs. After this you have to wonder who is left and what they can do with the Tag Team titles. Total destruction on Cade/Murdoch sad to say.

The Main event with Kurt Angle/Chris Masters vs Micheals/Cena was pretty solid. Styles was really selling a Micheals/Cena split that could happen. You can see Styles working his ass off broadcast wise as he's trying to sell that those 2 could possibly clash soon over that WWE Title.

Decent tag match as the fans were pretty solid behind Cena the whole way. They stayed with him. The crooked referee spot was funny with Styles and Coach getting into it. That was funny. " You don't see anything wrong with this Referee ? I can understand why now your play by play wasn't so good eithor! "

You left a show as Styles was selling Kurt as heel. You can't CENSOR the fans chanting " You Suck " he screamed. That was a great way to sign off with Kurt and company.

The Bad :

Flair comes out and its really kind of stupied to spend countless weeks building and building a heel like Rob Conway to job him out to a near 60 yearold man so he can sell a mid-card fued with someone who doesn't want the IC Title. Its just....beyond dumb. This pretty much killed Conway's push and what they were going for him down the road.

The 3 man booth is getting tiresome. Coach or Lawler must go. Styles needs the airtime to sell the matches and wrestlers. Thats him...he sells. He doesn't come across as an ass kisser and is just a good play by play man. But having all 3 competin for time is hard. I think Jerry needs to join Jim Ross on calling WWE.Com matches and let Styles/Coach be the team now. Thats the magic.


OVERALL: ***1/2 Outta 5. 2 Solid enough matches to open and close the show. Joey Styles came and just took Jim Ross's job pretty cleanly. Even J.R has to be sittin at home realizing Styles is DA MAN now on RAW. Least Ross can say he got replaced by an honest to god great Annoucer.

Royal
11-08-2005, 03:01 PM
Nikkan Sports confirmed that Paul Heyman is definatly looking into starting a MMA promotion.

NS is the japanese version of Sports Illistrated.

SUPERECWFAN1
11-08-2005, 03:05 PM
Nikkan Sports confirmed that Paul Heyman is definatly looking into starting a MMA promotion.

NS is the japanese version of Sports Illistrated.


Cool news. Now I can see the WWE wondering whethor to resign him or let him skip away. Thus far Johnny Ace's talent bundles have hurt the company a lot.

Royal
11-08-2005, 03:25 PM
Cool news. Now I can see the WWE wondering whethor to resign him or let him skip away. Thus far Johnny Ace's talent bundles have hurt the company a lot.

Yeah. The only problem is that he wants to be "more extreme" then UFC. The only place he can pull that off is in Hawaii, where they allow kicking a downed oppenents. Other then that....well...I hear England is the next big scene.

SUPERECWFAN1
11-08-2005, 03:36 PM
Yeah. The only problem is that he wants to be "more extreme" then UFC. The only place he can pull that off is in Hawaii, where they allow kicking a downed oppenents. Other then that....well...I hear England is the next big scene.


LOL.....Paul and being EXTREME! :D


I think he'll stay in wrestling though. I can see the WWE stepping in to stop him from taking a TNA deal.

titanfan
11-08-2005, 03:45 PM
I thought that in terms of writing, this was the best RAW show in awhile. All of the promos were on. From the serenading to Lita/Edge to start the show, to Kurt's hilarious outrage at the fans chanting "You Suck", etc. It's like someone fired creative and hired real writers!

Decent matches all around too.

Joey Styles wasn't bad but it was kind of weird to hear him calling matches in the WWE as opposed to ECW. I'll have to get used to it. I agree, they need to find something to do with Lawler, he's kind of the "tweener" now, but it's not working out. He has some good mic skills, wouldn't mind him becoming an evil heel manager like Bobby Heenan or Jimmy Hart.

As a side note, some message boards were posting that Kurt's marriage has been on the rocks for awhile, ever since he was caught having an affair with Jacqueline. Is that true?

And the return of Daivari!

Gaz
11-08-2005, 03:52 PM
LOL.....Paul and being EXTREME! :D


I think he'll stay in wrestling though. I can see the WWE stepping in to stop him from taking a TNA deal.
He needs to go to Orlando, I don't care if Dixie has to promise to sleep with him every week until his contract expires (she's pretty damn hot, in a MILF kind of way, in case you don't know), they need him, great angles are the only thing they're really lacking.

Gaz
11-08-2005, 05:17 PM
OMG!!!!!! Christian MAY be at this weekend's TNA PPV!!!!!!!LOOK! (http://www.tnawrestling.com/news/fullnews2.php?all=303)

JohnPopa
11-08-2005, 05:29 PM
The problem with Styles last night was the presence of Coach. Coach doesn't know how to be part of a broadcast team and he overran the proceedings and did a crappy job of it along the way. There just wasn't enough Styles for people to get a good feel for what he can do. They can keep Lawler tweener really -- he can still be the old vet who realizes that winning is the only thing, without just shilling the heel side of things.

But they need to get rid of Coach completely, which, unfortunately, I don't think they'll do. Because they are often very stupid about very obvious things.

GremlinClr
11-08-2005, 05:35 PM
OMG!!!!!! Christian MAY be at this weekend's TNA PPV!!!!!!!LOOK! (http://www.tnawrestling.com/news/fullnews2.php?all=303)


"This is the single biggest jump in TNA history," Carter said.

That sounds a little bigger than Christian don't you think?

Gaz
11-08-2005, 05:40 PM
That sounds a little bigger than Christian don't you think?
Not really, he QUIT WWE and CHOSE to go to TNA, he's decided they're better, and he's recognisable. Remember, that's how the NWO started, upper-mid-carders jumping ship.
Plus, short of Bill Goldberg, who's gonna live up to that hype, that they haven't already had? And Dixie HAS to shill, she runs the damn place.

marshal99
11-08-2005, 07:00 PM
That sounds a little bigger than Christian don't you think?

I think to TNA , it is a major coop. I wonder whether he will align himself with Jarrett or go against Jarrett.

Legato
11-08-2005, 07:09 PM
If Christian goes to TNA then I would like to see him as a Tweener. He would feud with Jarret one minute then the next he would feud with a face.

If he debuts as a heel then He will usualy be alligned with Jarret and I dont think he will work well as a face IMO.

LoneWolf21
11-09-2005, 01:04 AM
Y'know, part of me wishes Joey Styles and Micheal Cole could switch shows, just so we could get a cool old-school ECW vibe with Joey and Tazz on commentary.

Dennis K
11-09-2005, 05:41 AM
Not really, he QUIT WWE and CHOSE to go to TNA, he's decided they're better, and he's recognisable. Remember, that's how the NWO started, upper-mid-carders jumping ship.
Plus, short of Bill Goldberg, who's gonna live up to that hype, that they haven't already had? And Dixie HAS to shill, she runs the damn place.



Deciding to be a bigger fish in a smaller pond really isn't that big a deal.

lboinyamouf4sho
11-09-2005, 05:49 AM
joey was good and all, but for gods sake superECW take it easy!! after reading that review i thought it was a write up on the joey styles show, not raw. i'm digging greg helms but he needs a different look, theres about 10000 guys on the indy scene with near identical attire, he should try something different, and i wish they'd stop calling it a shining wizard when it's not, call it a shining enziguri(sp)

VCreed32
11-09-2005, 07:26 AM
Did anyone recognize Helms at first glance?
Be-au-ti-ful with the cendoring of "you suck".

lboinyamouf4sho
11-09-2005, 07:38 AM
Did anyone recognize Helms at first glance?
Be-au-ti-ful with the cendoring of "you suck".


yeah i saw him on heat so i knew it was him, on heat he used a new finisher submisson hold. i wish he'd bring back the vertabreaker.

VCreed32
11-09-2005, 08:24 AM
I saw a Heat recap where the person said that his opponent kicking out of the Eye of the Hurricane was a sign.

marshal99
11-09-2005, 09:26 AM
I saw a Heat recap where the person said that his opponent kicking out of the Eye of the Hurricane was a sign.

A sign of what ?

Too bad he cannot bring over his WCW entrance with the dancing nitro girls when he was sugar shane helms. That entrance of his was cool (of course, the nitro girls helped a lot). :D

torippu
11-09-2005, 10:18 AM
OMG!!!!!! Christian MAY be at this weekend's TNA PPV!!!!!!!LOOK! (http://www.tnawrestling.com/news/fullnews2.php?all=303)
This would be real cool. However, doesn't the WWE have 90 day non-compete clauses in their contracts these days? Can he appear on camera but not wrestle? If he can't appear on TV, are there any other likely free agents that could show up? I don't follow wrestling enough these days to know who is available.

torippu
11-09-2005, 10:22 AM
This would be real cool. However, doesn't the WWE have 90 day non-compete clauses in their contracts these days? Can he appear on camera but not wrestle? If he can't appear on TV, are there any other likely free agents that could show up? I don't follow wrestling enough these days to know who is available.
D'oh, guess I should have checked out Dave Meltzer's site before posting. It looks like it is going to be Christian - wonder if he'll be going by his real name now?

Wrestling Observer (http://www.wrestlingobserver.com/wo/news/headlines/default.asp?aID=14717)

--Just to stop silly rumors, the person teased by TNA in its release today about the biggest signing ever is Christian, not a mystery guy out of the blue or an attempt at bait & switch with poor delivery.

VCreed32
11-09-2005, 10:23 AM
A sign of what ?

Too bad he cannot bring over his WCW entrance with the dancing nitro girls when he was sugar shane helms. That entrance of his was cool (of course, the nitro girls helped a lot). :D
You know, like the Hurricane gimmick is over and useless...


or something. I forgot how they said it exactly.

Donald Stone
11-09-2005, 11:20 AM
This would be real cool. However, doesn't the WWE have 90 day non-compete clauses in their contracts these days? Can he appear on camera but not wrestle? If he can't appear on TV, are there any other likely free agents that could show up? I don't follow wrestling enough these days to know who is available.Not Christian. His contract was up a while ago, he was just working on a daily basis while they worked on an extension. He declined the extension, and since his contract ran out normally he doesn't have a no-compete clause.

Good Raw over all, much better than they've been doing lately. Honestly, I think either Coach or lawler need to go. I think either one could make a good team with Joey, but all 3 isn't working. Be interesting to see what happens on SD, especially with Batista getting hurt last night. Who knows whats gonna happen to the title now.

And as someone mentioned, I really want to see SS just to see Tazz and joey calling the action on the same show, that should make for at least one good moment.

JohnPopa
11-09-2005, 12:12 PM
It's Christian that TNA's talking about.

Forefinger
11-09-2005, 12:26 PM
Not Christian. His contract was up a while ago, he was just working on a daily basis while they worked on an extension. He declined the extension, and since his contract ran out normally he doesn't have a no-compete clause.

Good Raw over all, much better than they've been doing lately. Honestly, I think either Coach or lawler need to go. I think either one could make a good team with Joey, but all 3 isn't working. Be interesting to see what happens on SD, especially with Batista getting hurt last night. Who knows whats gonna happen to the title now.

And as someone mentioned, I really want to see SS just to see Tazz and joey calling the action on the same show, that should make for at least one good moment.
What happened to Batista? (Try not to spoil too much please)

Donald Stone
11-09-2005, 12:32 PM
What happened to Batista? (Try not to spoil too much please)I won't say how, but he tore a lateral muscle in his back, and it rolled up inside his shoulder. From the sounds of it they covered for it on the show pretty well, but word is he's in a lot of pain and could be out at least a year.

VCreed32
11-09-2005, 12:57 PM
I won't say how, but he tore a lateral muscle in his back, and it rolled up inside his shoulder. From the sounds of it they covered for it on the show pretty well, but word is he's in a lot of pain and could be out at least a year.
Oh funk!! Owuch.
That sounds hella painful.

Donald Stone
11-09-2005, 01:06 PM
Oh funk!! Owuch.
That sounds hella painful.You can say that again.

from what I hear, its very similiar to what happened to HHH's leg a while back, the one that put him out for like 16 months.

Legato
11-09-2005, 02:39 PM
Damn shame as Batista has fit in as well if not better than any of the OVW talent thus far. Real shame. But that's the risk really, especially for a guy that started his career about 15 years later than your average wrestler. Hopefully it's not as bad as being reported.

So who will fill in his spot while he is out? Hope it's not JBL.

clayholio
11-09-2005, 03:17 PM
Too bad about Batista. I've really enjoyed what he's done for the last year or so.

Here's my problem with Helms right now. He's gone to the generic indie wrestler look (bike shorts and kick pads). If you squint, you might think that Austin Aries or BJ Whitmer had signed with the WWE. I'm glad he's ditched the Hurricane gimmick, but he's going to have to do more than just glare at people who want to interview him. I think they should have had him come out and burn his Hurricane gear in the ring. Oh well...

Gaz
11-09-2005, 03:36 PM
Damn shame as Batista has fit in as well if not better than any of the OVW talent thus far. Real shame. But that's the risk really, especially for a guy that started his career about 15 years later than your average wrestler. Hopefully it's not as bad as being reported.

So who will fill in his spot while he is out? Hope it's not JBL.
Randy or Eddie, most likely.

Gaz
11-09-2005, 03:39 PM
Deciding to be a bigger fish in a smaller pond really isn't that big a deal.
For him, maybe not. (Although being in a working environment that actually nurtures your natural talent, as opposed to punishing you for daring to get popular without them giving you a wacky storyline to do so, might be nice for him)
For them, it's a huge deal, as they're being seen as a viable option for WWE guys who're unhappy there.

Forefinger
11-09-2005, 08:18 PM
I won't say how, but he tore a lateral muscle in his back, and it rolled up inside his shoulder. From the sounds of it they covered for it on the show pretty well, but word is he's in a lot of pain and could be out at least a year.
Man that sucks! He was my favorite out of all the newer guys. So....I guess Eddie can stay a face now?

Erik Lehnsherr
11-09-2005, 09:47 PM
I personally saw Eddie pulling off the annual Survivor Series swerve and turning on Batista to allow Raw to win the match. But with this new development? There may be a tournament for the title where Eddie finds a way to get the belt anyway.

As for Raw? Flair beating the unover Conway was great, Masters in the main event was HORRIBLE, Trish and Mickie still are getting it done, Victoria and Candice are great, Angle is getting better heel heat than HHH during promos, Cena gets cheered throughout an entire match this time, and Shelton outworks Carlito to lose again. Yeah...a iffy show that just gears me more and more to Smackdown's direction. And from this week's spoilers, Smackdown looks to be VERY good again.

lboinyamouf4sho
11-10-2005, 12:11 AM
I saw a Heat recap where the person said that his opponent kicking out of the Eye of the Hurricane was a sign.


well to be fair the guy didn't kick out, helms did the old cocky heel break and picked up dude by his hair and then finished him.

metalhead_dave743
11-10-2005, 06:40 AM
Semi-Good News about Batista. This is what I got from wwe.com.

World Heavyweight Champion Batista injured his back at the SmackDown television taping Tuesday night in Indianapolis.

Earlier today, Batista traveled to Birmingham, Ala., to be seen by Dr. James Andrews. While meeting with Dr. Andrews, The Animal was informed that he had a decision to make concerning the treatment of the injury. He could either rehab his back, or opt for surgery. If he decides to go with the surgery, Batista could be out of action for as long as three months.

Batista plans on making his decision by the weekend.

It still sucks for him but three months is better than a year. Batista is pretty much my favorite wrestler right now so I hope he gets back too.

lboinyamouf4sho
11-10-2005, 06:52 AM
hate to be a dick, but roids can make one prone to injury if i'm not mistaken. hope he recovers well, but this create opprotunity for others and i hope wwe makes the right adjustments.

marshal99
11-10-2005, 07:37 AM
Righttttt , every guy that is jacked up must be on steroids , right ?

Batista is already pushing 40 , he's no spring chicken. He's bound to get more injuries due to age more than anything else.

Anyway , it was a freak accident i gather since there wasn't even a match involved , just show & kane beating down Batista.

VCreed32
11-10-2005, 07:37 AM
well to be fair the guy didn't kick out, helms did the old cocky heel break and picked up dude by his hair and then finished him.
I think you get the essence of it though?

Same thing I was thinking about Batista and roids.

Gaz
11-10-2005, 07:48 AM
They need to put Dusty on as Joey's colour guy. "Oh, Kane be clubberin' dem dere rednecks like nobody else!"

lboinyamouf4sho
11-10-2005, 07:49 AM
Righttttt , every guy that is jacked up must be on steroids , right ?

Batista is already pushing 40 , he's no spring chicken. He's bound to get more injuries due to age more than anything else.

Anyway , it was a freak accident i gather since there wasn't even a match involved , just show & kane beating down Batista.


you're telling me batista isn't a posterboy for roids?? i'm sure chris masters is all natural too.

lboinyamouf4sho
11-10-2005, 07:52 AM
btw let me say i see no problem with pro wrestlers using roids, i would hope they don't abuse them for their own sake, but since it's not a true competition i see no problem with a guy juicing to make his body look better, it is an investment in his career i would say.

Gaz
11-10-2005, 07:54 AM
btw let me say i see no problem with pro wrestlers using roids, i would hope they don't abuse them for their own sake, but since it's not a true competition i see no problem with a guy juicing to make his body look better, it is an investment in his career i would say.
But most roided up guys suck in the ring, because they lack mobility. And not many of them have personality.

GremlinClr
11-10-2005, 07:58 AM
But most roided up guys suck in the ring, because they lack mobility. And not many of them have personality.

Scott Stiener anyone?

lboinyamouf4sho
11-10-2005, 08:00 AM
But most roided up guys suck in the ring, because they lack mobility. And not many of them have personality.


true, but one can make alot of money with a good look and little else. i think it's best to find some middle ground most likely like eddy and benoit imo.

Gaz
11-10-2005, 08:00 AM
Scott Stiener anyone?
Steiner was far better in ring before he bulked up, but yes, the character was better afterwards, but why did he need to sacrifice the former for the latter?

GremlinClr
11-10-2005, 08:22 AM
Steiner was far better in ring before he bulked up, but yes, the character was better afterwards, but why did he need to sacrifice the former for the latter?

Ummm I was agreeing with you.

Gaz
11-10-2005, 08:26 AM
Ummm I was agreeing with you.
Oh, I thought you were giving an example to the contrary.

marshal99
11-10-2005, 10:43 AM
Steiner was always big but not that big , i remember when he used to do the frankensteiner/hurricarana on opponents. I always thought he was the most agile muscle guy i have seen in the ring but man , once he bulked up , he really bulk up.

SUPERECWFAN1
11-10-2005, 11:17 AM
joey was good and all, but for gods sake superECW take it easy!! after reading that review i thought it was a write up on the joey styles show, not raw.


Hey ...I can't help it. The show was annouced very well. I was happy to see how well Joey Styles did and it made me feel like a GOD right now. I mean...not many felt he would jump there. There were a few here and elsewhere that said the odds Styles would ever do a RAW were slim to non-existant. So...I'm happy. The annoucer I always enjoyed is now calling for thier best show. Like it should be. Such is life. :D

SUPERECWFAN1
11-10-2005, 11:36 AM
Chris Jericho has continued his merry brand of teasing fans with his future choices. On Between The Ropes Jericho mused that fans online were acting like they knew him so he decided to pull a small joke by putting up the TNA logo behind him. He knew this would cause a sh-tstorm to erupt and within hours his site was flooded with e-mails and calls from TNA and WWE Executives happened.

Jericho has decided to do it again with something else now. Which begs the question....why ? Jericho's contract is over and why he keeps doing it is funny. Has the Christian situation really made him think? Jericho and Christian are friends and both do live in Florida now.

Could Chris Jericho be pulling a Pillman to see which organization wants him more ? If he is , then he's a pretty smart guy.


The WWE Armeggedon PPV Poster has a picture of Batista's face with mushroom clouds in his eyes. I'm guessing they'll book around his injury in a way.

Lance Storm will be attending the 12/03 ROH Show in New York. Storm will not wrestle but will instead sign autographs and be in attendance. Storm is also doing a shoot for ROH soon.

The Live Finale of UFC's Ultimate Fighter 2 did a 2.0 Cable rating. Spike TV is pretty pleased by it.

If you buy the Bret Hart DVD next week at a FYE Store you'll get a free WWE Skullcap with the purchase.

The WWE will release thier " Best of WWE PPV " Box set on 1/16/06 . This includes all thier PPV's for 2005.

Christian , who will soon make his TNA Debut has seemingly beaten Johnny Ace and WWE Legal to the punch. Christian has trademarked " Christian Cage " as his name so that must sock Ace hard. How will Johnny sleep at night knowing he's lost the guy , his name and whatever he says ? He can also call himself Captain Charisma as well since he was smart enough to not hand them that trademark. Reso is one smart cookie.

The WWE Raw Rating actually went up this week to a 3.6 from last weeks 3.4 . It must be a huge sign considering the Patriots/Colts MNF game . I will continue my non-stop shilling for Joey Styles and credit him fully. Showing how insane I can truelly be. ;)

Frankie Kazarian is due back soon in TNA once his WWE No Compete clause ends. Right now he's waiting on it to expire.

TNA has trademarked " Total Nonstop Adrelin Energy Drink " . No word on when that hits. TNA also owns the trademark on " New Age Outlaw " as well.

Miramax vs Shark Boy will be heading to court soon. Shark Boy sued the company for using his name in the " Adventures of Shark Boy and Lava Girl ". Miramax in a desperate attempt is trying to have Dean Roll's lawsuit dismissed by saying Roll only uses the name when he dresses up in a costume. The Miramax people must be completely brain dead since they have no clue Roll dresses up as Shark Boy for 300 dates a year Indie wise and had the name years before them.


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Donald Stone
11-10-2005, 12:02 PM
Miramax vs Shark Boy will be heading to court soon. Shark Boy sued the company for using his name in the " Adventures of Shark Boy and Lava Girl ". Miramax in a desperate attempt is trying to have Dean Roll's lawsuit dismissed by saying Roll only uses the name when he dresses up in a costume. The Miramax people must be completely brain dead since they have no clue Roll dresses up as Shark Boy for 300 dates a year Indie wise and had the name years before them. I'm no legal expert, but I have a feeling Sharky's gonna get paid before too long, either by winning or more likely by Miramax just throwing him some money to end it.

titanfan
11-10-2005, 12:11 PM
Christian , who will soon make his TNA Debut has seemingly beaten Johnny Ace and WWE Legal to the punch. Christian has trademarked " Christian Cage " as his name so that must sock Ace hard. How will Johnny sleep at night knowing he's lost the guy , his name and whatever he says ? He can also call himself Captain Charisma as well since he was smart enough to not hand them that trademark. Reso is one smart cookie.

Yup. Also shows (to me) that he was thinking about leaving WWE for a long time. I don't think his sudden refusal to sign a contract wasn't a hasty decision. It was a predmeditated move that he had obviously planned for a long time. Good for him.

Forefinger
11-10-2005, 01:03 PM
I'm no legal expert, but I have a feeling Sharky's gonna get paid before too long, either by winning or more likely by Miramax just throwing him some money to end it.
I'm thinking this as well, he was using the name for years, and it was copyrighted. Miramax has just been trying to bully him into dropping it, but if he isn't going to give up, they will have to pay up. GO SHARK BOY!!!

DanH
11-10-2005, 01:18 PM
Recently in a radio interview Chris Jericho admitted outright that he loves TNA. "To be honest with you, a dirty little secret and Vince will be angry to hear this, I actually watch TNA probably a little bit more than WWE now."

Gaz
11-10-2005, 02:42 PM
Yup. Also shows (to me) that he was thinking about leaving WWE for a long time. I don't think his sudden refusal to sign a contract wasn't a hasty decision. It was a predmeditated move that he had obviously planned for a long time. Good for him.
He's friends with TNA booker Scott D'Amore, and Rhino. Plus he wants to get into acting, and the TNA schedule fits that better. So yes, the feeling is he was planning this for a while.

DanH
11-10-2005, 04:44 PM
Recently in a radio interview Chris Jericho admitted outright that he loves TNA. "To be honest with you, a dirty little secret and Vince will be angry to hear this, I actually watch TNA probably a little bit more than WWE now."

lboinyamouf4sho
11-11-2005, 12:42 AM
Hey ...I can't help it. The show was annouced very well. I was happy to see how well Joey Styles did and it made me feel like a GOD right now. I mean...not many felt he would jump there. There were a few here and elsewhere that said the odds Styles would ever do a RAW were slim to non-existant. So...I'm happy. The annoucer I always enjoyed is now calling for thier best show. Like it should be. Such is life. :D


raw hasn't been their best show for some time now, infact smackdown, heat, and velocity are better imo. but anyways congrats on joeys new job

marshal99
11-11-2005, 08:05 AM
raw hasn't been their best show for some time now, infact smackdown, heat, and velocity are better imo. but anyways congrats on joeys new job

That could easily change with the right booking. RAW have a lot of great wrestlers that aren't being used to their full potential.
Personally i believe Shelton Benjamin needs to have a new submission move that looks cool and credible and then turn heel at the same time. His face character right now is stale and he needs to add in a submission move to his arsenal of moves. He needs his character to grow , to improve considering right now , even one-time jobber Rob Conway is getting more airtime than Shelton.

Forefinger
11-11-2005, 08:34 AM
That could easily change with the right booking. RAW have a lot of great wrestlers that aren't being used to their full potential.
Personally i believe Shelton Benjamin needs to have a new submission move that looks cool and credible and then turn heel at the same time. His face character right now is stale and he needs to add in a submission move to his arsenal of moves. He needs his character to grow , to improve considering right now , even one-time jobber Rob Conway is getting more airtime than Shelton.
Shelton needs to do something, or someone needs to do something with the guy. He's currently headlining Heat on a regular basis. That ain't good for one's career after being on Smackdown and RAW for several years.

marshal99
11-11-2005, 08:53 AM
I agree but i feel he just needs to get a heel turn and a new submission move , become more vicious in the ring and and starts referring himself as RAW's best wrestler.

Forefinger
11-11-2005, 09:07 AM
I agree but i feel he just needs to get a heel turn and a new submission move , become more vicious in the ring and and starts referring himself as RAW's best wrestler.
If he were to do that, wouldn't he need to fued with Angle to prove that he's the best?

marshal99
11-11-2005, 09:08 AM
If he were to do that, wouldn't he need to fued with Angle to prove that he's the best?

Wouldn't you want to see that ? That one match with Kurt shows what Benjamin was lacking , he had no submission counter to Angle , one of the reasons why Benoit/Angle matches have always been entertaining - the submission counter and why Benjamin/Angle match wasn't quite up to that standard when it could have been.

Forefinger
11-11-2005, 09:10 AM
Wouldn't you want to see that ?
Yeah. I'd love to see that, but they don't do many heel vs. heel fueds. If Shelton were to turn, Angle would to eh?

marshal99
11-11-2005, 09:17 AM
Yeah. I'd love to see that, but they don't do many heel vs. heel fueds. If Shelton were to turn, Angle would to eh?

I wouldn't build him up so fast yet , i would have him go over midcarders like eugene first using his submission move and wrestling skills , then gradually work it up to HBK and later Angle , by which time once his character been accepted and he can switch between face or heel.

DanH
11-11-2005, 09:47 AM
Jericho admitted outright that he loves TNA. "To be honest with you, a dirty little secret and Vince will be angry to hear this, I actually watch TNA probably a little bit more than WWE now."

eJm
11-11-2005, 09:53 AM
Jericho admitted outright that he loves TNA. "To be honest with you, a dirty little secret and Vince will be angry to hear this, I actually watch TNA probably a little bit more than WWE now."
You've posted that once already.


Now we DEFINATLY know you work for TNA.

Either that or you are....strange.

Erik Lehnsherr
11-11-2005, 12:54 PM
I agree but i feel he just needs to get a heel turn and a new submission move , become more vicious in the ring and and starts referring himself as RAW's best wrestler.

A submission move like..hmmm..the TX Cloverleaf he was using during his Smackdown run. People don't even realize that Shelton is not even doing technical matches these days and he's STILL the second best wrestler on Raw. That's pure talent.

Donald Stone
11-11-2005, 01:17 PM
Yeah. I'd love to see that, but they don't do many heel vs. heel fueds. If Shelton were to turn, Angle would to eh?I think Shelton could benefit from a heel turn, let him work on his mic work and psychology some. As many wrestlers have said over the years, its easier being heel, so its the best way to learn some of that stuff.

as for Angle, he's one of the few who could turn in an instant and folks would buy it. Give him one Raw and he could be a baby without trying hard. And honestly, a run like that could really help Shelton, cause it seems like most folks don't really break out till they get a good heel run (see HBK, Rock, Cena for some examples)

Erik Lehnsherr
11-11-2005, 01:30 PM
It's like he was NEVER heel from '02-04. Like that entire run NEVER, ever existed. Wow..

Forefinger
11-11-2005, 01:54 PM
It's like he was NEVER heel from '02-04. Like that entire run NEVER, ever existed. Wow..
I guess the difference was that he was part of Team Angle, and then with Haas while he was a heel. This would be the first time he would get a big push as a single heel.
I think that it would be great if he would turn and Angle would turn, although, then I wouldn't be able to hold any hope of Angle getting the title from Cena.

Donald Stone
11-11-2005, 04:19 PM
It's like he was NEVER heel from '02-04. Like that entire run NEVER, ever existed. Wow..Shelton Benjamin wasn't a heel, Kurt Angle and Team Angle where heels. Neither Shelton or Charlie did much of anything to set themselves apart.

lboinyamouf4sho
11-12-2005, 01:10 AM
RAW have a lot of great wrestlers that aren't being used to their full potential.


#1 reason they aren't the best show, talent is definately not the issue.

lboinyamouf4sho
11-12-2005, 01:23 AM
i'd like to see ron simmons come in as sheltons manager and do the old angry black man heel gimmick, sure it's an old gimmick but nobody was better at it than ron/farooq, the truth was pretty good at it too though. anyways i'm sure ron could help shelton get over as a heel and maybe show him how to act more serious, shelton always looks like he wants to start laughing.

marshal99
11-12-2005, 01:39 AM
Yeah , Benjamin needs to be more vicious , more intense. Benoit was pushed as "the crippler" way back in 2000 with Shane McMahon as his mouthpiece , then he came across as very intense and vicious and nearly won the title against the rock. Same thing with Kurt Angle when he debut his "Ankle lock" , that spot with Scotty 2 Hotty make it seemed like Angle really did snap Scotty's ankle and helped to push 2 things - to push the ankle lock as a badass painful submission hold and to push Kurt as a intense and vicious SOB and not the goofy guy that he normally is.
Same thing needs to happen with Benjamin , he needs to have a painful looking submission move , turn heel and needs to be more intense and vicious to his opponents. That angry black dude who's getting fed up of getting screwed.

lboinyamouf4sho
11-12-2005, 01:56 AM
Yeah , Benjamin needs to be more vicious , more intense. Benoit was pushed as "the crippler" way back in 2000 with Shane McMahon as his mouthpiece , then he came across as very intense and vicious and nearly won the title against the rock. Same thing with Kurt Angle when he debut his "Ankle lock" , that spot with Scotty 2 Hotty make it seemed like Angle really did snap Scotty's ankle and helped to push 2 things - to push the ankle lock as a badass painful submission hold and to push Kurt as a intense and vicious SOB and not the goofy guy that he normally is.
Same thing needs to happen with Benjamin , he needs to have a painful looking submission move , turn heel and needs to be more intense and vicious to his opponents. That angry black dude who's getting fed up of getting screwed.


i don't know, i think an arrogant heel role better suits shelton better than a vicious one. i'd perfer to see him use more high impact but since wwe is so against "drivers" and "drops" i guess a good submission would be the best thing for him. i'd like to see him in a fued with greg helms if he's not going to be heel anytime soon.

marshal99
11-12-2005, 02:01 AM
i don't know, i think an arrogant heel role better suits shelton better than a vicious one.

The thing is , WWE have way too many arrogant heels. Masters & Conway both have arrogant gimmicks going for them.

lboinyamouf4sho
11-12-2005, 02:55 AM
The thing is , WWE have way too many arrogant heels. Masters & Conway both have arrogant gimmicks going for them.


wwe has vicious covered to with angle and hhh.


but those guys arrogance seems to stem from their looks, sheltons would stem from his ability, he should have a "i'm the best thing in the ring" type gimmick imo

marshal99
11-12-2005, 06:48 AM
wwe has vicious covered to with angle and hhh.


but those guys arrogance seems to stem from their looks, sheltons would stem from his ability, he should have a "i'm the best thing in the ring" type gimmick imo

There's nothing to say that Shelton cannot be vicious and arrogant , he can be the "I'm not just going to outwrestle you , i'm going to beat you down as well just so you don't mess with me again" .

Royal
11-12-2005, 06:52 AM
i don't know, i think an arrogant heel role better suits shelton better than a vicious one. i'd perfer to see him use more high impact but since wwe is so against "drivers" and "drops" i guess a good submission would be the best thing for him. i'd like to see him in a fued with greg helms if he's not going to be heel anytime soon.

Vince hates submissions.

Goes back to Shamrock/Vader.

marshal99
11-12-2005, 06:53 AM
Vince hates submissions.

Goes back to Shamrock/Vader.

Err , what story with Shamrock/Vader ?

Royal
11-12-2005, 07:14 AM
Err , what story with Shamrock/Vader ?

Vader didn't like how a MMA was getting the same top billing he was, so when they had a match together, Vader decided to go Strong Style during the middle of it. Y'know, to show dominace & other dookie. I don't remember if it was a broken nose or what, but Vader did something to Shammy to really piss him off. He gets Vader on the ground & wrenchs, not put on, wrenches Vader leg into a kneebar. It tore some ligaments & laid up Vader for a bit. Vader was one of the top heels, so he was naturally pissed when this happened.

SUPERECWFAN1
11-12-2005, 07:24 AM
Vader didn't like how a MMA was getting the same top billing he was, so when they had a match together, Vader decided to go Strong Style during the middle of it. Y'know, to show dominace & other dookie. I don't remember if it was a broken nose or what, but Vader did something to Shammy to really piss him off. He gets Vader on the ground & wrenchs, not put on, wrenches Vader leg into a kneebar. It tore some ligaments & laid up Vader for a bit. Vader was one of the top heels, so he was naturally pissed when this happened.


This was after he nearly lost his eye in that Fatal Fourway PPV back in 1997 wasn't it ? Its amazing that Vader and Shamerock fell from Vince's graces so fast. Shamerock always claimed he was gonna return after taking time off to train....but never did.

Still the funniest thing about Ken was how he was introduced by Jerry Lawler during the whole ECW InVasion. ;)

" Ken , tell em how me and you were back in the days makin guys tap left and right . "

" Uhhh...look I don't know you. Your lying. "

lboinyamouf4sho
11-12-2005, 07:34 AM
vader>ken shamrock

SUPERECWFAN1
11-12-2005, 07:35 AM
Christian who has pretty much taught Johnny Ace a valuable lesson thus far continued to have fun this week. Rero also had " Captain Charisma " trademarked by him which shows you how smart the Canadian wrestler really was. The WWE wanted it but he never gave it away and his push stalled once they moved him away from it. But he never backed down.


Former TNA Valet Trinity debuted with OVW last night. This is a pretty good pickup WWE wise. For the last few years Vince has wanted AMW and Trinity and he at least got 1 of them. Trinity has a star studded history as a stunt woman working alongside Tom Cruise and Hugh Jackman.


Candace Michelle's Playboy Issue will happen In April 2006. VA VA VOOOOOMMMM!!! Its a tie-in to Wrestlemania 22.

The next ECW DVD to be released will be called: ECW:Bloodlust and it will feature the most insane,bloody matches in ECW History! Paul Heyman will do the introduction for each match and all. And after years of DVD waiting...Sabu vs Terry Funk in that barbed wire classic World Title match will be seen on this.

Taz and Micheal Cole reportedly went a bit into a tizzy on WWE Byte This , this past week. Cole and Tazz voiced thier anger over Smackdown being a B-Brand and treated like that by the company. Thier comments were censored out and edited out. Yes...because unless your shilling that company that don't give a damn!


Shawn Micheals and Big Show will work tonights Ted Dibase's Power Wrestling show. Both are religious wrestlers and they will be involved.

The WWE has Trademarked " Old School " . Its believed it will be used in thier WWE 24/7 Campaign.

lboinyamouf4sho
11-12-2005, 07:40 AM
Taz and Micheal Cole reportedly went a bit into a tizzy on WWE Byte This , this past week. Cole and Tazz voiced thier anger over Smackdown being a B-Brand and treated like that by the company. Thier comments were censored out and edited out. Yes...because unless your shilling that company that don't give a damn!





you know it's a work right?? kid cash would disagree about wwe wanting amw :D hey i know chris harris finisher is catatonic and james storms is the 8 sec. ride but can you describe the 2 moves?? i'm trying to make them on no mercy and it would help.

Gaz
11-12-2005, 07:55 AM
you know it's a work right?? kid cash would disagree about wwe wanting amw :D hey i know chris harris finisher is catatonic and james storms is the 8 sec. ride but can you describe the 2 moves?? i'm trying to make them on no mercy and it would help.
The 8 Second Ride is a tornado reverse DDT.
The Catatonic is a swinging Rock Bottom.

lboinyamouf4sho
11-13-2005, 01:56 AM
The 8 Second Ride is a tornado reverse DDT.
The Catatonic is a swinging Rock Bottom.


thank you very much.

SUPERECWFAN1
11-14-2005, 12:25 PM
you know it's a work right?? kid cash would disagree about wwe wanting amw :D hey i know chris harris finisher is catatonic and james storms is the 8 sec. ride but can you describe the 2 moves?? i'm trying to make them on no mercy and it would help.


If it was a work why edit the comments after they aired ? Why not leave them up ? Its hard to describe thier moves really well seeing that someone did...thanks. ;)

SUPERECWFAN1
11-14-2005, 12:40 PM
Eddie Guerrero passed away a few days ago sad to say. Vince McMahon and others have talked about his untimely death at 38 years of age. They held a Press Conferance and plan to have a tribute to Guerrero on RAW tonight. :(

Chris Masters is a planned 5th man for the RAW Team for Survivor Series. Ace continues to push this guy like gold and yet let Christian , Jericho and perhaps Benoit skip town . Wow...thats a bad job being V.P of Talent.


The WWE has planned to make it Edge vs Batista vs Randy Orton for this weeks Smackdown. No word if they plan to perhaps push Edge vs Batista as the rumored fued for now or do Orton/Batista.

The Dicks vs LOD 2K5 was also annouced for Smackdown.

The Tazz/Micheal Cole situation wasn't a planned work at all. Cole and Tazz were supposed to do voice overs hyping the planned PPV. Instead went on how WWE percieves the Brand as a B-Show. The wrestlers who work for Smackdown weren't opposed to this due to the feelings they have about Smackdown being considered the B-Show as well.

Kevin Nash was held off the TNA Genesis PPV due to what happened before Bound for Glory. Nash may never wrestle again due to this.

TNA Issued statement regarding the sad passing of Eddie Guerrero as well. Even though he never stepped foot in a TNA ring it showed a lot of class to do that.

After the PPV went off the air Reso,D-Von and Bubba grabbed a Eddie Sign and led the crowd into chanting his name. That...was awesome. I'd love to see TNA show it and if the WWE would allow it...that would be a sweet thing to do.

Jerry Jarrett wasn't at the PPV due to a ton of heat still on him for his appearance at Titan Towers a few weeks ago. They asked him to stay away.

Marti and Dory Funk Jr were backstage as well but asked to leave. Funk and Jarrett have had problems due to the fact that Jarrett has a money issue regarding an appearance he did for the couple's BANG Promotion.

New Japan Pro-Wrestling was sold today to Yukus. Simon Inoki annouced the deal. Yukus is a video and video game marketer in Japan.


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sgt.candy
11-14-2005, 12:48 PM
tonights raw will be the last one i watch. im jumping to tna for good now after seeing genesis

and is benoit leaving for real?

JohnPopa
11-14-2005, 12:50 PM
"I'd love to see TNA show it and if the WWE would allow it...that would be a sweet thing to do."

What could WWE possibly do to stop TNA from airing a clip of three of their guys leading the crowd in an "Eddie" chant?

Forefinger
11-14-2005, 01:08 PM
"I'd love to see TNA show it and if the WWE would allow it...that would be a sweet thing to do."

What could WWE possibly do to stop TNA from airing a clip of three of their guys leading the crowd in an "Eddie" chant?
WWE is full of such cocks that they were threatening to sue if Team 3D ever put anyone thru a table. I'm sure that they tread lightly when it comes to WWE.

Donald Stone
11-14-2005, 01:35 PM
tonights raw will be the last one i watch. im jumping to tna for good now after seeing genesis

and is benoit leaving for real?
All thats know is that Benoit's contract expires in a couple months. There's lots of talk about him jumping to TNA, but most of that is fanwank, much like the talk that Jericho is going to TNA.

Not to say its impossible, but now especially, with the loss of Eddie, I imagine the E will pony up and offer Chris the contract he wants to keep him there, as SD can't afford to lose him anytime soon.

Royal
11-15-2005, 12:10 AM
New Japan Pro-Wrestling was sold today to Yukus. Simon Inoki annouced the deal. Yukus is a video and video game marketer in Japan.


You took my schtick.

I Kobashi Chop you!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v361/Royal3/vlcsnap-12536501.jpg

SUPERECWFAN1
11-15-2005, 04:45 PM
You took my schtick.

I Kobashi Chop you!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v361/Royal3/vlcsnap-12536501.jpg


Sorry.....it was in the news section. Whats interesting is Yukus has a hand in the WWE Smackdown games. Thats just...ironic. Maybe them being involved there made them want to get into the wrestling product.

Gaz
11-15-2005, 04:56 PM
You took my schtick.

I Kobashi Chop you!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v361/Royal3/vlcsnap-12536501.jpg
People know who Yuke's are here too!
I counter with a Joe "Killing Bitches Bomb"!
http://www.tnawrestling.com/genesis/replay/lrg/10.jpg

lboinyamouf4sho
11-16-2005, 12:48 AM
The Tazz/Micheal Cole situation wasn't a planned work at all. Cole and Tazz were supposed to do voice overs hyping the planned PPV. Instead went on how WWE percieves the Brand as a B-Show. The wrestlers who work for Smackdown weren't opposed to this due to the feelings they have about Smackdown being considered the B-Show as well.

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dude, it's a work.

VCreed32
11-16-2005, 07:17 AM
I'm going to say it was a shoot.

lboinyamouf4sho
11-16-2005, 07:32 AM
I'm going to say it was a shoot.

you're going to be wrong.

Forefinger
11-16-2005, 08:07 AM
A shoot or a work, it's still interesting, like the video games.

Dennis K
11-16-2005, 08:15 AM
Smackdown is the B/second rate show.

Phoney Bone
11-16-2005, 08:24 AM
WWE is full of such cocks that they were threatening to sue if Team 3D ever put anyone thru a table. I'm sure that they tread lightly when it comes to WWE.

Yeah, the WWE are such jerks. If anyone should be suing Bubba and D-Von, it should be D.W, Dudley...

... and Dudley Dudley

... and the family of Big Dick Dudley

... and New Jack

... and Johnny Grunge

... and Sabu

... and everyone else who had their gimmicks lifted by the Dudleys when they went to WWE.

VCreed32
11-16-2005, 08:30 AM
you're going to be wrong.
Maybe, maybe not.
I doubt we'll find out either way.

BoosterBronze
11-16-2005, 09:37 AM
Yeah, the WWE are such jerks. If anyone should be suing Bubba and D-Von, it should be D.W, Dudley...

... and Dudley Dudley

... and the family of Big Dick Dudley

... and New Jack

... and Johnny Grunge

... and Sabu

... and everyone else who had their gimmicks lifted by the Dudleys when they went to WWE.

I'm not sure I follow you.
How did any of these people get their gimmicks "lifted?" I mean, Heyman invented the Dudley name.

And the Bushwackers wore camo way before New Jack did.

SUPERECWFAN1
11-16-2005, 12:01 PM
The way the company had not made a mention of it since goes to the " shoot , that Vince didn't like " catagory now.

Gaz
11-16-2005, 01:13 PM
I'm going to say it was a shoot.
Nope, I'm thinking improvised work. I saw a recap which picked up on Tazz apparently telling Grisham to "calm down, I'm puttin' you over...". Tazz and Cole get along pretty well, so they probably just came up with it while they were doing the work they were there for and went for it, thinking it would help the brand war angle. Steph and co no likey unscripted stuff. (Partly why they're so hostile to Heyman and Gerwitz)

VCreed32
11-16-2005, 07:19 PM
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lboinyamouf4sho
11-17-2005, 01:44 AM
The way the company had not made a mention of it since goes to the " shoot , that Vince didn't like " catagory now.



so when eric constantly refers to smackdown as the B-show do you think that's a shoot?? and what about eric and teddys beef, is that a shoot too?? do you think it's just a coincidence that this shoot happend in the middle of a raw vs SD storyline that's been building for a couple of months and coming to a head at the next ppv?? seems like a bit much to me.

SUPERECWFAN1
11-17-2005, 10:22 AM
so when eric constantly refers to smackdown as the B-show do you think that's a shoot?? and what about eric and teddys beef, is that a shoot too?? do you think it's just a coincidence that this shoot happend in the middle of a raw vs SD storyline that's been building for a couple of months and coming to a head at the next ppv?? seems like a bit much to me.


The thing is " thats all story related " . Not real life. When you have the annoucers break during a pre-PPV Hype and started proclaiming that the WWE ( The whole company not RAW) treats Smackdown as a B-Show you see what happens. Its ok for Bischoff to mock Smackdown on TV as a B-Show or Long to call RAW boring during TV. Because fans expect the 2 brands to be fueding.

Not for the annoucers from Smackdown to attack the WWE for what they percieve Smackdown as. Thats why it was edited. They don't want people pointing at the Company saying they percieve one Brand as better because it hurts them.

SUPERECWFAN1
11-17-2005, 10:32 AM
The WWE RAW Rating climbed to a 4.5 for this week. This beats WWE Homecoming and the other hyped RAW's which should tell you the importance of Eddie Guerrero.

RAW has helped USA Network climb to the top of the Cable Ratings . USA Network won the cable ratings last week and with this rating seems likely they'll win this week as well.

RVD,Benoit , Malenko and others have put up testimonials dedicated to Eddie Guerrero at WWE.Com right now. Theres way more included so thats cool to do.

Bret Hart is sheduled to go on WWE Byte This tonight. Just reminding those who wanna hear The Hitman talk on something related to the WWE.

The WWE has put up an Eddie Guerrero tribute T-Shirt to help the Guerrero family. All proceedes will go to the Guerrero family. Go check it out at www.WWE.com right now.

In what has to be the saddest , depressing news to follow the Eddie Guerrero business , Bam Bam Bigelow is currently in Florida and maybe chraged in a motorcycle wreck he was only involved in. This gets worse people.

Bigelow has lost all his money and currently lives with his brother and girlfriend at thier houses. His body he claims is broken down due to years of the wrestling business and he moved to Florida so he knees and body can heal.

This after possibly leaving a bench warrent due to back pay on child support. The Florida police may charge him for the accident on his bike . He reportedly told cops he had a few beers and nothing more.

Man....thats sad. I miss Bam Bam . The guy in ECW was a monster. Hopefully things get better for him.


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marshal99
11-17-2005, 10:39 AM
TNA should hire him as he's living in the florida state and TNA has a history of employing has-beens after all.

SUPERECWFAN1
11-17-2005, 10:55 AM
TNA should hire him as he's living in the florida state and TNA has a history of employing has-beens after all.


Odds are to help him they may do that. Bigelow though claims he's on disability and can't work due to his knees. So thats in doubt. Remember...ECW took Bigelow and created a monster who won the ECW World Title for awhile. He also beat Taz clean in 1998.

marshal99
11-17-2005, 11:00 AM
Bigelow doesn't need to work , just show up on camera maybe as Jarrett's bodyguard or something or just cut promos or like douglas , be a interviewer. I mean , yegawd, if you can employ a lameass like Johnny Fairplay , surely you can employ a wrestling veteran like bigelow to do something.

SUPERECWFAN1
11-17-2005, 12:13 PM
Bigelow doesn't need to work , just show up on camera maybe as Jarrett's bodyguard or something or just cut promos or like douglas , be a interviewer. I mean , yegawd, if you can employ a lameass like Johnny Fairplay , surely you can employ a wrestling veteran like bigelow to do something.


But Johnny was on Survivor damn it! He was Johnny Fairplay!!


You are right . I'd more than likely pay to see Bigelow beat someone down than someone who claims he was on Survivor at some point.

Gaz
11-17-2005, 03:11 PM
But Johnny was on Survivor damn it! He was Johnny Fairplay!!


You are right . I'd more than likely pay to see Bigelow beat someone down than someone who claims he was on Survivor at some point.
Johnny has a job because Dixie likes him. (She's pretty, and good at business stuff, but not a great judge of talent, I guess.)

Gaz
11-17-2005, 05:49 PM
Oh, I watched Byte This this week. It was pretty good, if slightly evasive on the more tricky questions. One caller point blank asked him if he would do a match with Michaels if he could, and Grisham parlayed it into a "dream match" Q instead.

Pól Rua
11-17-2005, 06:47 PM
I'm not sure I follow you.
How did any of these people get their gimmicks "lifted?" I mean, Heyman invented the Dudley name.

And the Bushwackers wore camo way before New Jack did.

...and then, there's THESE guys.

http://www.arenacentral.com/hansonbrothers/slapshot.html

Royal
11-17-2005, 06:55 PM
...and then, there's THESE guys.

http://www.arenacentral.com/hansonbrothers/slapshot.html

The Ballards!?!

http://www.upw.com/events/Results/020508/images/97c.jpg

lboinyamouf4sho
11-18-2005, 01:33 AM
Thats why it was edited. They don't want people pointing at the Company saying they percieve one Brand as better because it hurts them.


or because they want you to think it's real, if not they would've further edited it. do you really think michael cole has the balls for something like that?? jim ross was just replaced you think cole feels irreplaceable all of a sudden?? what convinced you it was a shoot, was it the part when tazz said "this isn't a work"??

lboinyamouf4sho
11-18-2005, 01:39 AM
the ballards are pretty damn good.

SUPERECWFAN1
11-18-2005, 10:12 AM
or because they want you to think it's real, if not they would've further edited it. do you really think michael cole has the balls for something like that?? jim ross was just replaced you think cole feels irreplaceable all of a sudden?? what convinced you it was a shoot, was it the part when tazz said "this isn't a work"??


Now who would they replace Micheal Cole with ? They barely got Styles on RAW. There isn't a lot of great annoucers out there to be had. UFC kept Goldberg and Ross's deal ends in 2006 so I think they want him gone.

No one left. Cole and Tazz are the survivors of a thin annoucing crop right now. Who would get thier jobs ? Funaki or Grisham ? ;)

Gaz
11-18-2005, 10:14 AM
Now who would they replace Micheal Cole with ? They barely got Styles on RAW. There isn't a lot of great annoucers out there to be had. UFC kept Goldberg and Ross's deal ends in 2006 so I think they want him gone.

No one left. Cole and Tazz are the survivors of a thin annoucing crop right now. Who would get thier jobs ? Funaki or Grisham ? ;)
Matthews. Who could handle Smackdown due to the pretaped nature of it.
Paul E might even be able to do color. (Or *shudder* Stephanie. Or - YAY! - Dusty! "Oh, they be clubberin' away at deh Animal tonight, Josh!" :D )

SUPERECWFAN1
11-18-2005, 10:18 AM
Matthews. Who could handle Smackdown due to the pretaped nature of it.
Paul E might even be able to do color. (Or *shudder* Stephanie. Or - YAY! - Dusty! "Oh, they be clubberin' away at deh Animal tonight, Josh!" :D )


Mathews I haven't heard much from. Paul Heyman hated being on TV and perfered a role backstage. Steph would be a nightmare and and Dusty...well Dusty would be comical in the sense he'd spend more time puttin Dusty over than anyone.

I'm sure the company would be thinkin if they did fire Cole and Tazz a Dusty/Mathews team would be a good fit. I'd watch Smackdown to just hear Dusty scream: " Batista's Gettin Funky Like a Monkey , Mathews!! "

SUPERECWFAN1
11-18-2005, 10:50 AM
Eddie Guerrero's funeral will be today in Arizona . The family wishes that no fans show up because they want it to be a small ceremony for family and friends. Heres hoping that wish happens.

Ex-WWE Wrestler Matt Morgan wrote something on his website about Guerrero. Claiming he'll never forget him and that he and his wife had Eddie in thier prayors. Sweet guy...


WWE.Com has added comments from The Coach, Arn Anderson and Michelle McCool to the growing list of people talking about Eddie Guerrero. Nice to see this happening.

HHH is getting yet another new theme song. This one will be done by Disturbed. Its just ironic that HHH can have 3 to 4 new Theme's in a 3 or 4 year span and Chris Jericho barely got a new one.

The WWE has annouced that the edition of WWE BYTE THIS with Bret Hart was the most watched edition of 2005.


Eugene as others have posted was hospitalized in Manchester England and sent home. He was suspended which begs the question....what bad thing did he do to get put in the hospital ? I'm sure the company has a ZERO TOLERANCE policy in effect now for anything bad since Guerrero's passing and this coming the very week it happened isn't a great sign.


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Gaz
11-18-2005, 11:02 AM
Eddie Guerrero's funeral will be today in Arizona . The family wishes that no fans show up because they want it to be a small ceremony for family and friends. Heres hoping that wish happens.

Ex-WWE Wrestler Matt Morgan wrote something on his website about Guerrero. Claiming he'll never forget him and that he and his wife had Eddie in thier prayors. Sweet guy...


WWE.Com has added comments from The Coach, Arn Anderson and Michelle McCool to the growing list of people talking about Eddie Guerrero. Nice to see this happening.

HHH is getting yet another new theme song. This one will be done by Disturbed. Its just ironic that HHH can have 3 to 4 new Theme's in a 3 or 4 year span and Chris Jericho barely got a new one.

The WWE has annouced that the edition of WWE BYTE THIS with Bret Hart was the most watched edition of 2005.


Eugene as others have posted was hospitalized in Manchester England and sent home. He was suspended which begs the question....what bad thing did he do to get put in the hospital ? I'm sure the company has a ZERO TOLERANCE policy in effect now for anything bad since Guerrero's passing and this coming the very week it happened isn't a great sign.


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I'm guessing it might be steroid related, considering the rumours around Eddie's death. (The comments about his heart having grown worry me, along with his flutuating muscle mass and weight)
EDIT: Or an OD, maybe?
And Jericho had 3 theme songs. But the other 2 didn't last. ("King of My World" by some metal band, and "Don't You Wish You Were Me?" by Fozzy)

sgt.candy
11-18-2005, 11:18 AM
too bad paul hates beong on tv. he owned on commentary

Donald Stone
11-18-2005, 01:40 PM
I'm sure the company would be thinkin if they did fire Cole and Tazz a Dusty/Mathews team would be a good fit. I'd watch Smackdown to just hear Dusty scream: " Batista's Gettin Funky Like a Monkey , Mathews!! "Hell, if they go that route, ship Tazz over to Raw with Joey, they'ed make a great team.

As for Dusty, Dusty is fun as hell on color, they'ed just need someone on play-by-play that can handle him.

Gaz
11-18-2005, 01:41 PM
Hell, if they go that route, ship Tazz over to Raw with Joey, they'ed make a great team.

As for Dusty, Dusty is fun as hell on color, they'ed just need someone on play-by-play that can handle him.
I kinda want Dusty on Raw with Joey, just for the comedy value. :D

Donald Stone
11-18-2005, 01:58 PM
I kinda want Dusty on Raw with Joey, just for the comedy value. :DNow that you mention it, that has the possiblitity to be all kinds of awesome.

sgt.candy
11-18-2005, 01:58 PM
i once heard dusty say if he was kicked in the luttamus maximus hed be passed out for 4 days then when he woke up hed try to find out who kicked him in the luttamus maximus


put him on commentary NOW

Gaz
11-18-2005, 02:00 PM
Now that you mention it, that has the possiblitity to be all kinds of awesome.
DR:"Oh, dat Cena, he be deh fightingest thug in deh WWE, a true fighter, a gladiator, if you weel"
JS:"What?! I heard Cena, and that's about it!"

SUPERECWFAN1
11-19-2005, 08:58 AM
Right now the WWE is in the mix of trying to get Joey Styles signed to a long term deal. The company had Styles on a 2 week tryout to see how he mixed with Coach and Lawler and the company was very pleased.

Unless a deal is ironed out this week when the company goes to the UK , Styles will not be there. He has work commitments and told the company he won't leave his advertising job unless he gets a full-time deal to do so. Johnny Ace has heat on him to get this done ..RIGHT NOW to get Styles on the annouce team fully.

If a deal is signed you will see Joey on RAW this week. Unless its done he won't be there.


The 1# WWE DVD for this week is: Jake " the Snake " Roberts: Pick your Posion DVD . It and the Ultimate Warrior DVD is a close 2nd. The entire top 20# list of the sports/Recreational DVD's of Billboard are WWE/TNA DVD's. Thats funny.

Over at IGN Bret Hart has an interview up where he talks about Eddie Guerrero , Vince McMahon and Shawn Micheals. ( People...buy his DVD. 18 FREAKIN MATCHES....jesus...Its Bret Hart)

Rumors that Nick Dinsmore ( Eugene) was in a bar fight are untrue. Dinsmore after a show in Manchester passed out and was rushed to a hospital. He was released , flew home and suspended.

TNA had Shannon Moore come in for a tryout this week. The idea is to sign Moore sinvce he's a good friend of Jeff Hardy so he can keep an eye on him. They have planned to bring him in for awhile.

The next TNA Impact Primetime special will be on December 8th. Spike TV will be having the Video Game Awards in TNA's spot for that night. Jarrett,Styles and Abyss will be on the Video Game Wards with The Rock. No telling if Vince is crappin his pants yet.

TNA has hired Brian Fritz ( Between The Ropes) to help get thier Audio Show online to happen. Good signing here.


SPOILER!!!! Skip down:









At the UK Smackdown Tapings they have booked Randy Orton vs Batista in a street fight. With Batista's current injury he maybe booked to lose the title here to Orton til he recovers in a few months.




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VCreed32
11-19-2005, 09:03 AM
*Thrills at the thought of 'Dubaya dubaya dubaya dot dubya dubaya e dot com'*