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MasterOdin

11-08-2005, 11:34 AM

[/url][url="http://www.comicbookresources.com/news/newsitem.cgi?id=6161"]Preview at CBR (http://www.newsarama.com/marvelnew/Nov_previews/nov30th.htm)

Um... things don't look so good for Chamber.

TinMan

11-08-2005, 11:55 AM

Hokey shnit! Sux to be Jono right about now.

I was wondering if that would happen if/when he lost his powers, I wonder how they'll restore his jaw and chest, that is, if they can.

Wolverine221

11-08-2005, 11:59 AM

See this is why they need to fix the continuity of Marvel. Chamber was "fixed" in Weapon X, then later showed up in the new Weapon X series (STILL FIXED), now they show him again with the hole in his chest! Did Scarlett Witch erase the fact he was in Weapon X??? Come on this is why it is so hard to keep up.

sherlockbones

11-08-2005, 12:03 PM

cool art!
reminds me of BWS

Midnite

11-08-2005, 12:04 PM

I'm thinking that maybe the explanation that the fake Chamber gave to Excelsior was based on the truth: That he used his power recklessly after leaving Weapon X, and undid the repairs.

Seriously, who would want to be kept alive in that condition?

phicks

11-08-2005, 12:06 PM

Quick Question: I have not read House of M #8 yet, but I understand Wanda says "no more mutants", and suddenly there are only 198 mutants left in the Marvel Universe. Has it been explained why those 198 people were not affected by Wanda's magic? Thanks in advance for any answers.

Hi-Fi

11-08-2005, 12:09 PM

Cayman

11-08-2005, 12:10 PM

Poor pretty dragon. :(

Cay

Hi-Fi

11-08-2005, 12:11 PM

Poor pretty dragon. :(

Cay

I know. I think she's gone. :(

Cayman

11-08-2005, 12:21 PM

A Sentinel/Dragon fight would be kinda cool. Wonder if we'll see that?

Cay

Hi-Fi

11-08-2005, 12:23 PM

A Sentinel/Dragon fight would be kinda cool. Wonder if we'll see that?

Cay

I get the feeling from the previews that they just find her like that, in the ground. No fight.

Gaveedra 6

11-08-2005, 12:28 PM

Oh man, that pic of Chamber makes me wanna cry. That poor guy.

As for continuity problems- wasn't Chamber's chest un-fixed post-Weapon X?

And is the big Dragon the woman Cleremont created who could transform?

Cayman

11-08-2005, 12:30 PM

And is the big Dragon the woman Cleremont created who could transform?

That's what I'm guessing.

Cay

Hi-Fi

11-08-2005, 12:30 PM

And is the big Dragon the woman Cleremont created who could transform?

I think so.

bluefooted

11-08-2005, 12:33 PM

I strongly dislike the art, especially the coloring... and not just because they're hurtin' my favorite character :p

Gaveedra 6

11-08-2005, 12:34 PM

That's what I'm guessing.

Cay
Wouldn't she have just transformed back into a human? Or is she still a mutant but shot down? I guess it will be more clear when there are words. The art's amazing. Interesting coloring choices as well.

Christopher O

11-08-2005, 12:35 PM

The art's amazing. Interesting coloring choices as well.
I agree. It's so different.

AnthonyJ

11-08-2005, 12:38 PM

Though judging by that preview, apparently her mutant power was to turn human, not to turn into a dragon, since removing her powers does not cause her to not be a dragon.

Hi-Fi

11-08-2005, 12:40 PM

Though judging by that preview, apparently her mutant power was to turn human, not to turn into a dragon, since removing her powers does not cause her to not be a dragon.

So she was a mutant dragon?? :D

Gaveedra 6

11-08-2005, 12:41 PM

Though judging by that preview, apparently her mutant power was to turn human, not to turn into a dragon, since removing her powers does not cause her to not be a dragon.
By the preview, it's not clear if she's actually one of those mutants who have been depowered. If that is the case, it would make her a mutant who's natural state is to be a dragon. Umm.. Okay!

Hi-Fi

11-08-2005, 12:43 PM

It's a shame, though. She and Lockheed never got a chance to hit it off.

Cayman

11-08-2005, 12:48 PM

It's a shame, though. She and Lockheed never got a chance to hit it off.

That'd be a freaky romance.

They should've done it.

Cay

riotgear

11-08-2005, 01:00 PM

And is the big Dragon the woman Cleremont created who could transform?

Evangeline Whedon? That could be, although I don't remember her dragon form looking like this. Although, for Marvel these days, that doesn't seem to mean anything.

Hi-Fi

11-08-2005, 01:01 PM

Evangeline Whedon? That could be, although I don't remember her dragon form looking like this. Although, for Marvel these days, that doesn't seem to mean anything.

Her dragon form is exactly like this. ;)

Atomic Mongoose

11-08-2005, 01:02 PM

Love the artwork. Looks very cinematic and surreal. Surreal should definitely fit the mood of this book and how the characters feel, having been going through all of this.

riotgear

11-08-2005, 01:20 PM

Her dragon form is exactly like this. ;)

Looks like I'll have to break out my XXM issues. Ugh. I hate having them in the last boxes. They're always at the bottom.

Titanium

11-08-2005, 02:17 PM

So it's not that there are no more mutants, it's that all mutant powers are shut off. It's like when the X-gene was shut off a few years ago. Flying mutants lost their wings or whatever and fell to their deaths. Blob lost his gurth but kept the excess skin.

Chamber's power is shut off, leaving a gap in his chest and mouth where his living furnace was coming from. Even though the gaping hole was already repaired or at least contained to a small control device on his chest when Weapon X got him. Now this can be explained away, albeit crappily, by saying in the House of M universe, Chamber's chest was a living furnace of bio-kinetic energy again and the return to proper form undid any Weapon X fixes or the fix from weapon x was only in effect as long as his powers were active.

But this isn't no more mutants. If she just got rid of the powers of mutants, there wouldn't be any after effects like this, she just shut down the mutant gene.

So does this mean the return of the X-Corps?

Twigglet

11-08-2005, 02:20 PM

Awesome picture of Chamber pic there, really looking forward to this now.

Hellfan

11-08-2005, 02:22 PM

Oh man, that pic of Chamber makes me wanna cry. That poor guy.

As for continuity problems- wasn't Chamber's chest un-fixed post-Weapon X?

Who's Chamber?

unkiedev

11-08-2005, 02:29 PM

I love chamber, and my jaw did drop as soon as I saw the picture, but I still won't be reading any post "House of M" x-books. It doesn't seem like anything means anything anymore:
Chamber is on the brink of death for having his furnace turned off and for having a giant hole in his chest and face which they "fixed" in Weapon-X but decided didn't count, though we're all sure he'll get his powers back at some point or they'll "fix" him again until some other writer decides to un-fix again.

whatevs, X-books. I'll stick to spidey: It's not that his continuity is any better, it's just there are less people in it to keep straight.

countryfan2004

11-08-2005, 02:40 PM

Aw, that sucks really bad. That picture was really gross, and it's not even real!

Hellfan: Chamber is a mutant who was first introduced as a member of Generation X. I can't remember if he was in the Phalanx Covenant arc or not. His power is according to uncannyxmen.net: "vaporized chest cavity is filled with a fluctuating energy field that he manipulates through psionic biokinesis; he communicates telepathically through broad or personal thought projection and projects bionuclear energy discharges."

AnthonyJ

11-08-2005, 03:05 PM

So she was a mutant dragon?? :D

There's precedent. They justified Warlock in the New Mutants (in the comic, no less) by saying that his mutation was that he wasn't evil (or words to that effect; I don't remember exactly what it was, other than that it was pretty bogus).

Gaveedra 6

11-08-2005, 03:26 PM

There's precedent. They justified Warlock in the New Mutants (in the comic, no less) by saying that his mutation was that he wasn't evil (or words to that effect; I don't remember exactly what it was, other than that it was pretty bogus).
And don't forget the mutant cat Beast got the hots for.
:o
Just because there's precedent, doesn't mean it's not a silly idea! :D
Lets see what the narration bubbles say first before we start classifying her as a genetically challenged dragon. She may have been unaffected by the woogie, and be crashing to the ground for another reason all together.

jadegiant77

11-08-2005, 03:40 PM

was that Jubilee and Sync ? I thought Sync died. And who was that blonde?

Cayman

11-08-2005, 03:54 PM

Not all bald, African-American men are Synch.

Cay

Jake V

11-08-2005, 03:58 PM

Not all bald, African-American men are Synch.

Cay
What? Really?

Who's the dude in New Avengers then?

The guy in Uncanny?

I just thought that synch was really popular.

Cayman

11-08-2005, 04:16 PM

What? Really?

Who's the dude in New Avengers then?

The guy in Uncanny?

I just thought that synch was really popular.

Those guys are all Ultimate Nick Fury. Duh.

Cay

jadegiant77

11-08-2005, 04:30 PM

Not all bald, African-American men are Synch.

Cay

no *s* sherlock.

fishtaco

11-08-2005, 04:34 PM

I thought this book wasn't going to have Wolverine in it. Silly me :rolleyes:

Callie

11-08-2005, 05:29 PM

Well, Elixir wasn't humanized. I wonder if he's capable of repairing gaping chest holes or recreating missing jaws.

Beast

11-08-2005, 05:32 PM

Well, Elixir wasn't humanized. I wonder if he's capable of repairing gaping chest holes or recreating missing jaws.
If not, we're gonna need a hell of a lot of masking tape. :D

GoGo Yubari

11-08-2005, 05:38 PM

Well, Elixir wasn't humanized. I wonder if he's capable of repairing gaping chest holes or recreating missing jaws.

Pfft, like they'll even remember Elixir. Whedon's the only guy who uses him outside of New X-Men.

Beast

11-08-2005, 05:40 PM

Pfft, like they'll even remember Elixir. Whedon's the only guy who uses him outside of New X-Men.
Chris Claremont, X-Men #165. :p

jawbreaker

11-08-2005, 07:43 PM

I strongly dislike the art, especially the coloring... and not just because they're hurtin' my favorite character :p

is it me or is he blonde here? :confused:

its a cool pic, gotta give Marvel props for showing him like that, they couldve kept it off panel or discreetly had most of him covered by some device, but I like that it shows what he looked like under the psi-flame...

I just hope he doesnt, you know, DIE. :( :mad:

GoGo Yubari

11-08-2005, 08:25 PM

Chris Claremont, X-Men #165. :p

Nevermind, then. I stopped bothering with Claremont's stuff ages ago. I stand corrected.

dellicious

11-08-2005, 09:57 PM

poor chamber :(

Teamballin

11-09-2005, 12:15 AM

Damn Chamber is really messed up. He is pretty much mute now since he cant telepathically talk to others.

Be Stiff

11-09-2005, 04:53 AM

What a pointless fucking waste of a great character. It's not like this is in the service of any great story.

They don't even seem to know what the fuck's going on line-wide - some guys get fixed, some stay freaks, and it's just pointlessly depressing.

Chamber was a cool concept, a cool design. This really sucks.