Siths

[PrimalScream]

r there only 2 at a time-master and apprentice or are/were they like they jedi with several members?

[Captain Trips]

As Yoda says, "Always two there are. No more, no less. A master and an apprentice."

[Phil Clark]

But I think what he meant is that they are always paired. You won't find three sith working together, and you won't find a rogue sith going it alone. There are always multiples of two. A Master and an apprentice.

Because back in the day, just two sith wouldn't have been any kind of challenge for the Jedi.

[Jared]

Millenia before the movies, the Sith would operate as huge order. See: Tales of the Jediand Jedi vs. Sith comic series, and the Knights of the Old Republic game.

Darth Bane started the Rule of Two after the Sith army was wiped out in the apocalyptic battle of Ruusan, about a thousand years before Episode 1.

[SnowTrooper]

Well if you count General Grevious as a Sith since he was taught the jedi arts by Count Dooku, there were kinda 3 Sith walking around at the time of Episode III.

[Bruce Wayne Jr.]

Nah.

It takes more than just combat training to become a Sith. The individual would actually have to immerse themselves in Sith philosophy, among other things.

Grievous was trained to kill Jedi, but not to become a Sith. It could even be argued that Count Dooku is not a true Sith either...

[Magneto_X]

Lucas should allow others to do movies about the other stories and times wayyyyyyyyy before the OT.

I'd love to see a movie adaption/trilogy of Tales of the Jedi and/or Jedi vs Sith about the huge Sith civil war on Russan.

[sir_snikt'alot]

Nah.

It takes more than just combat training to become a Sith. The individual would actually have to immerse themselves in Sith philosophy, among other things.

Grievous was trained to kill Jedi, but not to become a Sith. It could even be argued that Count Dooku is not a true Sith either...

dooku was a sith,his sith name was darth tyrannus,he was a rogue jedi,he was sideous's apprentice.

[Captain Trips]

dooku was a sith,his sith name was darth tyrannus,he was a rogue jedi,he was sideous's apprentice.

That and he referred to Sidious as his master. Dooku became Sidious's apprentice after the death of Darth Maul.

[Bruce Wayne Jr.]

Yeah, he had a codename and he was down with the dark side, but if you follow the Clone Wars, there were a few times when they alluded to waivering faith.

He's officially a Sith, in terms of canon, but I said it could be argued otherwise if you look deeper at the character.

Read Dark Rendezvous.

[G. Wayne]

Millenia before the movies, the Sith would operate as huge order. See: Tales of the Jediand Jedi vs. Sith comic series, and the Knights of the Old Republic game.

Darth Bane started the Rule of Two after the Sith army was wiped out in the apocalyptic battle of Ruusan, about a thousand years before Episode 1.

Wasn't the Rule of Two started after in-fighting almost wiped out the Sith? Being power-hungry in nature leads to a lot of back-stabbing if they don't have something to focus on, like Jedi.

[SnowTrooper]

Dooku was a sith lord, Palpatine said so himself in Episode III. I would also like to see some Star Wars movies before the original saga. I want to no more about the old republic and sith lords.

[Jared]

Grevious wasn't even Force sensitive, so he's hardly a Sith. Hell, Assaj Ventress who could use the Force and who also trained with Dooku, still wasn't ever a Sith, just a minion for one.
I don't think moments of doubt take away from Dooku's Sith Lordness, not unless he really acts of them, and by the time of Episode III, he wasn't. Hell, by the end of Dark Rendevous I think it's pretty clear he's made his choice.

[Jared]

Wasn't the Rule of Two started after in-fighting almost wiped out the Sith? Being power-hungry in nature leads to a lot of back-stabbing if they don't have something to focus on, like Jedi.

Basically yeah. After many years of conflict with the Jedi/Republic, in which infighting had really hurt them, the remaining Sith (hundreds, or thousands of them, IIRC) fought the Jedi Army of Light on the planet Ruusan. There was more power struggle between the nominal leader, Lord Kaan, and Darth Bane. With the battle not going their way, Kaan led most of the Sith in creating a Thought Bomb, a force technique to destroy the Jedi. But they weren't able to control it, and it destroyed both Jedi and Sith, with only Bane and one or two other exceptionally Force-strong individuals surviving it.

Incidentally, the conflict that culiminated on Ruusan was rooted a thousand years earlier, by a Jedi who turned to darkness and became Darth Ruin. So there's a two-thousand year span between the TOTJ/KOTOR era and Darth Ruin where we don't know anything about the Sith, though they were apparently extinct, or believed to be, for much of it.

[Bruce Wayne Jr.]

Heh, I knew you guys would be quick to disprove that one.

The hidden beauty of Star Wars is that there's so many aspects to pick apart and analyze, a lot of its' meaning is left up to interpretation. I like to think that Dooku's faith, along with that of all the other tragic Force users, is one of those aspects.

[Captain Trips]

Yeah, he had a codename and he was down with the dark side, but if you follow the Clone Wars, there were a few times when they alluded to waivering faith.

He's officially a Sith, in terms of canon, but I said it could be argued otherwise if you look deeper at the character.

Read Dark Rendezvous.

Oh, I don't read any of the expanded universe stuff. The movies are the story for me. Too many cooks in the kitchen kind of thing with all the novels, comic books, etc.