View Full Version : Weakest Marvel Hero?
Nightcrawler
10-25-2005, 06:58 PM
Which hero does the most with the least?
(tips hat to Omega Guy)
Mr. X
10-25-2005, 08:42 PM
Well, Spidey comes to mind...
Jessica Drew
10-25-2005, 08:43 PM
Aunt May and her frying pan.
Kirayoshi
10-25-2005, 08:54 PM
Well, Spidey comes to mind...
Whu-HUH?
Let's see, climbs walls as easily as walking down the street, superhumanly agile, benches ten tons(more if he pushes it), borderline precognitive...and he's the weakest?
He ain't Silver Surfer but I'd hardly call him the weakest!
I'd nominate Frogman, who has nothing but a set of springs in his heels and a dream. Or Hindsight Lad, who has the mutant ability to devise perfect strategies for any situation, but only once that situation has already occurred! The Decimation may be worth it, if only to rid the MU of him!
Thrice
10-25-2005, 10:36 PM
my mother and her bag of sweet lovin.
The Shadow
10-25-2005, 11:12 PM
Pretty much any human without powers that runs with the big dogs.
Hawkeye for example. With his bow and arrows he's got a weapon but if the bow breaks he's just a normal guy.
samuraisul
10-26-2005, 01:16 AM
Dude, I'd take Captain America over Toad anyday. Even without the shield, Cap'N would kick his ass hand-to-hand.
Devourer of Words
10-26-2005, 02:06 AM
Dude, I'd take Captain America over Toad anyday. Even without the shield, Cap'N would kick his ass hand-to-hand.
Well, Cap isn't really that 'normal'. Enhanced by the Super Soldier serum and trained in multiple fighting styles, Cap is a league above other non-powered heroes...
darkhawk76
10-26-2005, 02:27 AM
Aunt May and her frying pan.
joking aside, I'd agree with this
Aunt May has a moral centre, which helped shaped Spider-Man's career. IMO by proxy she is a hero, though not much of a threat to your average supervillian (unless you count humanising Doc Ock)
milhouse123321
10-26-2005, 03:09 AM
Angel (female) or Beak..
both great characters but both incredibly weak...
Cowlander
10-26-2005, 09:07 AM
Forbush Man, isnt it obvious.
Expletive Deleted
10-26-2005, 09:17 AM
Go-Getter, the cabbie with power over all traffic lights!
Weight Watcher, who can instantly determine the caloric content of any food he eats!
And their compatriot, whose name I forget, the precognitive who can predict, each year, the exact date and time at which the swallows return to Capistrano. And nothing else.
. . . man, I loved those old MARVEL YEAR-IN-REVIEW magazines.
Shellhead
10-26-2005, 09:52 AM
Pretty much any human without powers that runs with the big dogs.
Hawkeye for example. With his bow and arrows he's got a weapon but if the bow breaks he's just a normal guy.
The correct answer is Hawkeye. He has no super-powers, just great skill as an archer, leadership skills, a smart mouth, and a knack for tactics. On his own, he has defeated Swordsman, the original Power Man and Black Widow, all at once. He also defeated Deathbird in a particularly humiliating upset. Hawkeye outsmarted Grandmaster and beat the Collector, two Elders of the Marvel Universe. As an Avenger, he made the decisive shot in battles against Ultron and Krona. He inspired Captain America to become Nomad, founded the West Coast Avengers, and lead the Thunderbolts.
RawShark
10-26-2005, 10:06 AM
Willie Lumpkins...
those wiggling ears man!!!
friggin WIGGLIN EARS!!!!
Shellhead
10-26-2005, 10:10 AM
Willie Lumpkins...
those wiggling ears man!!!
friggin WIGGLIN EARS!!!!
The question was who does the most with the least. Willie delivers the mail, just like all the other mailmen, which is pretty unremarkable.
NormanB
10-26-2005, 11:40 AM
HINDSIGHT LAD
http://www.marveldatabase.com/wiki/index.php/Hindsight
Iron Syndicate
10-26-2005, 12:53 PM
I gotta agree with Hawkeye.
Or Daredevil... enhanced senses will only get you so far...
jam37wcc
10-26-2005, 02:57 PM
The correct answer is Hawkeye. He has no super-powers, just great skill as an archer, leadership skills, a smart mouth, and a knack for tactics. On his own, he has defeated Swordsman, the original Power Man and Black Widow, all at once. He also defeated Deathbird in a particularly humiliating upset. Hawkeye outsmarted Grandmaster and beat the Collector, two Elders of the Marvel Universe. As an Avenger, he made the decisive shot in battles against Ultron and Krona. He inspired Captain America to become Nomad, founded the West Coast Avengers, and lead the Thunderbolts.
Wouldn't the correct answer be Tony Stark, because he wouldn't be as skilled in fighting as Hawkeye. plus doesn't he have a heart condition or did they retcon that.
Shellhead
10-26-2005, 03:07 PM
Wouldn't the correct answer be Tony Stark, because he wouldn't be as skilled in fighting as Hawkeye. plus doesn't he have a heart condition or did they retcon that.
Good point, but Tony has wealth and genius, which is still more than Clint has.
Lorendiac
10-26-2005, 03:17 PM
The Invisible Girl used to just turn herself invisible. That's it. That's all she could do. Not exactly a power to make an armed robber faint from terror, eh?
Judging from dialogue in the "Essential Fantastic Four" reprint volumes, Marvel used to get lots of letters from fans complaining that Sue was basically a waste of space - all she could do was hide from trouble. At least once, maybe more than once (been a long time since I read Vol. 1 of the Essential FF) we saw rebuttals from other members of the FF to such mail.
Then Sue finally developed some "invisible force field" powers. What that suggested to me was that Stan Lee, after doing his best to defend the girl in dialogue, had finally caved in and admitted that her critics had a point all along and she desperately needed some real offensive capability (and better defensive ones than just being able to hide from bad guys!) - and I've often wondered if he ever conceded, in a lettercol or an interview or anything, that maybe Sue's critics had actually been right all along in the first year or two, and he should have upgraded her superpowers a heck of a lot sooner? :)
(This may have inspired somebody to create the kid in the movie "Mystery Men" who wanted to be a superhero - his single superpower was that when he closed his eyes and concentrated real hard, he could turn invisible, provided no one else actually looked at him while he was trying! That made him even more useless in most situations than the young Sue Storm had ever been!)
Mr. X
10-26-2005, 03:24 PM
Whu-HUH?
Let's see, climbs walls as easily as walking down the street, superhumanly agile, benches ten tons(more if he pushes it), borderline precognitive...and he's the weakest?
He ain't Silver Surfer but I'd hardly call him the weakest!
I'd nominate Frogman, who has nothing but a set of springs in his heels and a dream. Or Hindsight Lad, who has the mutant ability to devise perfect strategies for any situation, but only once that situation has already occurred! The Decimation may be worth it, if only to rid the MU of him!
See "Which hero does the most with the least?" in the first post.
Malavek
10-26-2005, 04:14 PM
The Punisher?
JonnyFreeze
10-26-2005, 04:15 PM
i dunno man Galactus goes out for a bite to eat and destroys a planet
Shellhead
10-26-2005, 04:28 PM
The Punisher?
I dunno, which super-villains has he captured? How many super-heroines has he nailed? Has he outsmarted or otherwise beaten any Elders of the Universe? Lead any teams? Inspire other heroes? Save the world?
The only high-end stunts that I associate with Punisher:
1. Stole something from Dr. Doom.
2. Defeated one of the High Evolutionaries middle-management types.
3. Got pwned by Dr. Octupus.
Lorendiac
10-26-2005, 04:49 PM
The Punisher?
I wasn't counting the Punisher as a "serious" candidate in this category, because what with all his guns and grenades and stuff, he has considerably more destructive power than many superheroes are capable of using (since they're too dumb to carry guns themselves, I mean :)). I don't think it really matters if a character's ability to create explosions, for instance, comes from mechanical aids or from something coded into his genes.
Jarvis, the Avengers butler
Young Avenger
10-26-2005, 07:35 PM
Chase Stein. The only thing he does is pliot the Leapfrog.
Deadpool_Disassembled
10-27-2005, 02:32 AM
Grizzly and Boy Gibbon Springs to mind
Rutsah
10-27-2005, 04:59 PM
Sure he has the eye of agamatto and cloak of levitation but otherwise he is fairly powerless. Just his wits and intellegence. Given what he has accomplished I know I'm impressed.
Sure he has the eye of agamatto and cloak of levitation but otherwise he is fairly powerless. Just his wits and intellegence. Given what he has accomplished I know I'm impressed.
No, Strange has years of training & vast knowledge of master spells. He is not an ordinary man at all. The Eye of Agamatto, Orb of Agamatto, & Cloak of Levitation are more tools for him to use.
riftt
10-27-2005, 05:37 PM
Are we forgetting Cypher?
Are we forgetting Cypher?
Cypher is not weak at all. It was Cypher & Warlock who defeated Spiral & put Betsy's mind back together in The New Mutants Annual #2. Cypher wrote a sophisticated virus for the Magus, Warlock's father, which transformed him back into an infant. The virus was self-perpetuating which kept the Magus an infant indefinitely circa The New Mutants #50. Cypher had alot of untapped potential to make him as formidable as Sage.
Big E
10-28-2005, 06:58 AM
I always thought wolfsbane was weak. I liked how the hulk gave her the finger and said "back to Kansas for you Toto" hurling her hundreds of feet.
bosshog7169
10-28-2005, 12:45 PM
Rick Jones definately wins this. He has no powers at all but he's saved the world like a billion times.
Alpha to Omega
10-28-2005, 03:10 PM
Cypher is not weak at all. It was Cypher & Warlock who defeated Spiral & put Betsy's mind back together in The New Mutants Annual #2. Cypher wrote a sophisticated virus for the Magus, Warlock's father, which transformed him back into an infant. The virus was self-perpetuating which kept the Magus an infant indefinitely circa The New Mutants #50. Cypher had alot of untapped potential to make him as formidable as Sage.
The Magus came back though. He showed up in Warlock's series back to his normal form.
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