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Johnny_Storm
08-04-2005, 10:14 PM
I was hanging on edge for season 2 and I wasn't disappointed. They really made Ford more interesting. I like the way they have worked the Thaddeus and crew into the show as well, I hope Hermes get's more screen time though. Season 2 should be entertainig.

Deathstroke
08-05-2005, 05:16 AM
Just to let everyone know, Sci-Fi has made the decision to CUT the opening credits sequence to give those 50 seconds to cable advertisers for more commercials. The credits will get restored for episodes in syndication.

Draconomicon
08-05-2005, 06:47 AM
Yeah, I heard about that :(
Have the Wraiths become serious enemies yet or are they still "Would-be-Ghoa'ould with worse tech and more numbers"?

Basara
08-05-2005, 10:38 AM
Yeah, I heard about that :(
Have the Wraiths become serious enemies yet or are they still "Would-be-Ghoa'ould with worse tech and more numbers"?

Worse tech? The Ghoa-ould never had pinpoint teleportation. They always had to rely on rings. Their cruisers could blow up ancient weapon platforms and they had mass drivers that could hurl asteroids at targets. The Wraith darts are nothing to sneeze at either. They're definately at least on par with gliders. Every example here is from season 1.

This season, they have successfully blocked Asgard scanners on the Daedalus to stop Asgard teleportations and introduced a virus that even infiltrated the Asgard computer systems on the Daedalus. The Asgard member of the crew (Hermes?) was most distressed to learn he lost control of his systems.

So, yeah, the Wraith are a massive threat. Only ancient tech trumps them, and much of what is needed to stop the Wraith hasn't been found yet.

VCreed32
08-06-2005, 06:45 AM
Worse tech? The Ghoa-ould never had pinpoint teleportation. They always had to rely on rings. Their cruisers could blow up ancient weapon platforms and they had mass drivers that could hurl asteroids at targets. The Wraith darts are nothing to sneeze at either. They're definately at least on par with gliders. Every example here is from season 1.

This season, they have successfully blocked Asgard scanners on the Daedalus to stop Asgard teleportations and introduced a virus that even infiltrated the Asgard computer systems on the Daedalus. The Asgard member of the crew (Hermes?) was most distressed to learn he lost control of his systems.

So, yeah, the Wraith are a massive threat. Only ancient tech trumps them, and much of what is needed to stop the Wraith hasn't been found yet.
Did anyone else think that perhaprs they'll integrate the Dart teleportation into their repetoire?

Atomic Horror
08-06-2005, 11:40 PM
I'm just happy that Jewel Staite will be appearing later on this season.

Sadyv
08-06-2005, 11:44 PM
I'm not familiar with the Stargate mythology, but I was interested in some of the previews for the new season of Atlantis.

If I jump into watching the show now, will I be able to understand and enjoy the show, or am I hopelessly behind and stand no chance?

Johnny_Storm
08-07-2005, 12:17 PM
I'm not familiar with the Stargate mythology, but I was interested in some of the previews for the new season of Atlantis.

If I jump into watching the show now, will I be able to understand and enjoy the show, or am I hopelessly behind and stand no chance?

You should try watching a couple episodes. There is usually a explanation of how the different technology works from time to time, I think you might get the general idea of what is going on yourself pretty quickly if you catch episode or two.

DDM
08-07-2005, 12:22 PM
Is the guy who got infected by the Wraith going to become a Wraith? Wraiths have some kind of human genome in their DNA...

Gaz
10-13-2005, 07:22 PM
The first epsiode just aired over here, and it's something Stargate hasn't been for a while to me. It was FUN! That used to be what made Stargate stand out, it wasn't melodramatic (like Andromeda) or convoluted (like Enterprise) it was FUN!
And Cameron Mitchell is John Crichton reborn, from what I can see. Same good ol' boy charm, same hard edge in a fight, same Browder humour.
I LOOOVE Vala, she's so different from Aeryn (in total contrast to Browder). Totally mercenary and every other line an inneuendo, or not. ("Let's make babies!" :D )
All that, plus Arthurian myths = one happy fanboy. (That would be me, just in case...)

Dr. Banner
10-13-2005, 09:20 PM
I just started watching Stargate in the beginning of September so that I can catch up and start watching the Farscape gang again.

I'm just starting season 5... not bad, so far. Has potential.

Blueferret
10-13-2005, 11:03 PM
The first epsiode just aired over here, and it's something Stargate hasn't been for a while to me. It was FUN! That used to be what made Stargate stand out, it wasn't melodramatic (like Andromeda) or convoluted (like Enterprise) it was FUN!
And Cameron Mitchell is John Crichton reborn, from what I can see. Same good ol' boy charm, same hard edge in a fight, same Browder humour.
I LOOOVE Vala, she's so different from Aeryn (in total contrast to Browder). Totally mercenary and every other line an inneuendo, or not. ("Let's make babies!" :D )
All that, plus Arthurian myths = one happy fanboy. (That would be me, just in case...)

You'll be pleasantly surprised by the way the season turns out. I have some friends that didn't like the way the season went, but I like what the producer do in the next few episodes to add life to a show going on it's 9th year. In some ways, they've reinvented themselves.

Gaz
10-14-2005, 05:39 AM
You'll be pleasantly surprised by the way the season turns out. I have some friends that didn't like the way the season went, but I like what the producer do in the next few episodes to add life to a show going on it's 9th year. In some ways, they've reinvented themselves.
It's like Sci-Fi have combined their two biggest shows into one, big, ubershow! :D

VCreed32
10-14-2005, 06:16 AM
You'll be pleasantly surprised by the way the season turns out. I have some friends that didn't like the way the season went, but I like what the producer do in the next few episodes to add life to a show going on it's 9th year. In some ways, they've reinvented themselves.
I think it's still the 8th year, although 9th season.

Deathstroke
10-24-2005, 09:11 PM
Both series have been renewed for 20 episode seasons to air in 2006.

It will be SG-1's 10th season making it the longest running science fiction series.

Atlantis will be starting it's third season.

DF2506
10-24-2005, 11:04 PM
It will be SG-1's 10th season making it the longest running science fiction series.>

Really good news, imo! I've enjoyed the current season alot. Mainly because of Ben Browder (still a really funny guy) and Claudia Black (hope she comes back in the 10th season. heck, wouldn't mind seeing her this season again..), but the new storyline has been interesting too. I'm glad it got renewed. I was wondering a bit...

<Atlantis will be starting it's third season.<

Hmm. Well the first season of Altantis was really good, but the second season has ranged from so-so to a couple of really good ones. Here's hoping the quality of the show goes back up in season 3!

DF2506
" I really glad SG-1 is coming back! Now if only Claudia Black could be made a cast member for season 10! "

VCreed32
10-25-2005, 07:37 AM
10th season in how many years?

The Watcher
10-25-2005, 08:34 AM
Wait, doesn't Dr. Who beat SG-1 by about a decade, having been on for at least twenty consecutive years before they stopped for a bit?

king mob
10-25-2005, 08:36 AM
Wait, doesn't Dr. Who beat SG-1 by about a decade, having been on for at least twenty consecutive years before they stopped for a bit?


26 years before it was cancelled, so Stargate has a wee while to go before it catches up.

The Batman
10-25-2005, 11:37 AM
It will be SG-1's 10th season making it the longest running science fiction series.>

Really good news, imo! I've enjoyed the current season alot. Mainly because of Ben Browder (still a really funny guy) and Claudia Black (hope she comes back in the 10th season. heck, wouldn't mind seeing her this season again..), but the new storyline has been interesting too. I'm glad it got renewed. I was wondering a bit...

<Atlantis will be starting it's third season.<

Hmm. Well the first season of Altantis was really good, but the second season has ranged from so-so to a couple of really good ones. Here's hoping the quality of the show goes back up in season 3!

DF2506
" I really glad SG-1 is coming back! Now if only Claudia Black could be made a cast member for season 10! "


ah Claudia Black . . . .

Gaz
10-25-2005, 05:04 PM
Isn't Vala supposed to be popping back up later this season anyway?

DonC
10-25-2005, 05:16 PM
Hmm. Well the first season of Altantis was really good, but the second season has ranged from so-so to a couple of really good ones. Here's hoping the quality of the show goes back up in season 3!



I agree. I liked the first season, as a casual fan, but I quickly lost interest when season 2 started.

Deathstroke
10-25-2005, 05:20 PM
Wait, doesn't Dr. Who beat SG-1 by about a decade, having been on for at least twenty consecutive years before they stopped for a bit?


Sorry, I forgot to put, in the U.S.

Typo Lad
01-30-2006, 07:32 AM
Someone lent me a Divx of the first ep of Stargate Sg-1 and I watched it yesterday.

At one moment there was full-frontal nudity.

This wasn't from the DVD, was it? Was this aired with bars over the bits, or what?

Gaz
01-30-2006, 07:38 AM
It was cut around in syndication, but I think Showtime might have shown it when the pilot aired.
It's definitely on the DVD release over here, because it got the set an 18 rating.

davids
01-30-2006, 07:48 AM
That is why the early shows had a more adult flavor! :rolleyes:

Typo Lad
01-30-2006, 07:48 AM
It totally caught me by suprise.

There was a New Years Day Marathon that I caught that made me wonder if this show was worth checking out. Adding in some former Farscape Castmemebers didn't hurt either.

Gaz
01-30-2006, 07:50 AM
It totally caught me by suprise.

There was a New Years Day Marathon that I caught that made me wonder if this show was worth checking out. Adding in some former Farscape Castmemebers didn't hurt either.
If it's first season, skip the first half dozen. There's a bunch of sci-fi cliche stuff without any original spin. Sexist society on a planet? Why, let's teach them a valuable lesson which changes their views in 40 minutes of screentime!
After that, the show's good usually, great sometimes, and occasionally spectacular.

Typo Lad
01-30-2006, 07:55 AM
I'm one of those weird-os who have to watch an entire season when I watch a show, even the eps I know are bad.

I wish I did. It would save me a lot of time watching Star Trek: Voyager. Heck, I'd be done in three hours.

Gaz
01-30-2006, 08:00 AM
I just looked up an episode list. I'm right. The show's bland until the one with the energy crystals, then the Nox and Asgard show up.
The show's never been truly bad like Voyager though. At the very least, you'll get a kick out of the numerous reaction shots for every dramatic line delivered, and the banter between the main cast.

Tadhg
01-30-2006, 08:06 AM
The show entertained me enough to keep buying it, though really the plots throughout the entire series are kind of weak. Season 8 is by far the weakest of the seasons. Mostly because O'Neill isn't really in that much. O'Neill was Anderson's second greatest character and I'll miss him being on it.

And Typo, you could just watch the clips show that all the early seasons had.

Typo Lad
01-30-2006, 08:46 AM
O'Neill was Anderson's second greatest character and I'll miss him being on it.

But he was replaced by the dude who played Chrichton. That's just neat!

And what, you didn't like him in "Legend"?

And Typo, you could just watch the clips show that all the early seasons had.

Clip shows? EVIL!

Oh and so far? Loving the whole "The bad guys are basically evil Trill" thing.

Tadhg
01-30-2006, 08:53 AM
But he was replaced by the dude who played Chrichton. That's just neat!

I haven't watched any of Season 9 yet. Lorinda started watching Stargate with me when I bought Seasons 6, 7, and 8 over Christmas.


And what, you didn't like him in "Legend"?

That's what I liked him best in.



Clip shows? EVIL!

For the most part. But the framing sequences make the clip shows in Stargate to be somewhat essential to the storyline.

Gaz
01-30-2006, 08:55 AM
I haven't watched any of Season 9 yet. Lorinda started watching Stargate with me when I bought Seasons 6, 7, and 8 over Christmas.

Claudia Black is awesome in it. Her scenes with Shanks make the first half of the season. Looking forward to her being full-time next year.

For the most part. But the framing sequences make the clip shows in Stargate to be somewhat essential to the storyline.
Plus, Homer Simpson was in one! :D

Typo Lad
01-30-2006, 09:18 AM
What's a Shanks?

Typo Lad
01-30-2006, 09:19 AM
That's what I liked him best in.



Really? Hell, I thought I was the only person on Earth who liked that show.

It was just so out there conceptually.

That and Nowhere Man made UPN my favorite network for the first year. THen they put them both on "permenant hiatus".

Gaz
01-30-2006, 09:21 AM
What's a Shanks?
Michael Shanks, who plays Daniel.
(And if you're wondering about Claudia, her character is the anti-Aeryn)

Typo Lad
01-30-2006, 09:29 AM
Michael Shanks, who plays Daniel.

Ahhhh. Yeah, that was awesome. Great chemistry.

(And if you're wondering about Claudia, her character is the anti-Aeryn)

Yeah, the marathon I saw had eps with her. She's still starting out as a "bad guy who defects" kind of character, but now she's much more... honest about having been bad. More Chyana than Erin.

Zero Hunter
01-30-2006, 05:38 PM
Man I miss Farscape. :(

DonC
01-31-2006, 04:54 PM
Gaz is correct about the original topic- the series did have occasional nudity and swearing when it was on Showtime. I don't know if they left that stuff for the DVDs, though.

Tadhg
01-31-2006, 05:00 PM
Gaz is correct about the original topic- the series did have occasional nudity and swearing when it was on Showtime. I don't know if they left that stuff for the DVDs, though.

They left the nudity in the first episode and that's the only nudity I ever saw.

tricksterpup
01-31-2006, 05:02 PM
But he was replaced by the dude who played Chrichton. That's just neat!

And what, you didn't like him in "Legend"?

Legend Rocked!!! it was one of my favorite short lived series.

tricksterpup
01-31-2006, 05:03 PM
As for the series went, it was on showtime for about the first 5 years, i believe and then went to SCI-FI.
The first episode did show nudity, and it did air on showtime like that.

Typo Lad
02-01-2006, 06:34 AM
Okay, I saw 'Cold Lazarus" yesterday and I am fully willing to admit that I cried a bit.

Richard Dean Anderson is an awesome actor.

Chiasm
02-02-2006, 05:00 AM
I only started watching the show this season because I missed Farscape so much.

I'm still only watching it because I miss Farscape so much. I can't wait for Vala to come back full time later this season.

The show itself is okay but I wouldn't watch it without Crichton, or whatever he's called on this show, and Aeryn / Vala.

Gaz
02-03-2006, 08:09 PM
Okay, I saw 'Cold Lazarus" yesterday and I am fully willing to admit that I cried a bit.

Richard Dean Anderson is an awesome actor.
Underrated in this show too. He has a great run in the end of the 7th season, and he's not even speaking.
The others all have their moments, but RDA and Michael Shanks held the show together for the first 5 years. (Shanks has played 2 more recurring characters and a half dozen miscellanious parts in body switch/mind control episodes. All well performed and distinct.)

Chiasm
02-17-2006, 10:00 PM
I'm trying to hard to like this show. Its the closest thing I'll probably ever see to Farscape again - Vala can't come back soon enough :D .

But tonights episode stretched my patience. Killer bugs - its been done many times but I can live with that. But the good guys are repelling the bugs with bullets. There are thousands and thousands of bugs yet a few bursts of gunfire repells them all. :( I cannot suspend my disbelief this much.

How many episodes til Vala is back?

Basara
02-19-2006, 12:17 AM
I'm trying to hard to like this show. Its the closest thing I'll probably ever see to Farscape again - Vala can't come back soon enough :D .

But tonights episode stretched my patience. Killer bugs - its been done many times but I can live with that. But the good guys are repelling the bugs with bullets. There are thousands and thousands of bugs yet a few bursts of gunfire repells them all. :( I cannot suspend my disbelief this much.

How many episodes til Vala is back?

Perhaps you missed the explanation that it wasn't the bullets, but the noise that the bullets make impacting the ground screwing with the bugs ecolocation that was driving them back.

Even then, if they hadn't improvised and prepared land mines around their perimeter, they would have been overwhelmed from a different direction.

Besides, how could you not like Col. Mitchel picking Starships Troopers for their movie night at the end? :D

Lord of Denial
02-19-2006, 06:33 AM
I thought this was a fun ep and like Basara said it was the sound that drove the bugs back just like the worms in Tremors.

And Starship Troopers was an awesome touch at the end.

Antonio B.
02-19-2006, 08:05 AM
Perhaps you missed the explanation that it wasn't the bullets, but the noise that the bullets make impacting the ground screwing with the bugs ecolocation that was driving them back.

Even then, if they hadn't improvised and prepared land mines around their perimeter, they would have been overwhelmed from a different direction.

Besides, how could you not like Col. Mitchel picking Starships Troopers for their movie night at the end? :D

That was funny indeed.

Dr. Banner
02-19-2006, 07:46 PM
That was funny indeed.

Both movie references were great. Tea'c wanting to watch "Old School" and then the Starship Troopers one.

This was an average episode, but, that's what Stargate is about. It's the vanilla flavour of sci-fi. Good laughs, good action, good writing, but, on the whole, nothing incredibly spectacular, despite their odd episode of greatness (which is offset by the really bad episodes).

Nuthin' wrong with that.

Typo Lad
02-22-2006, 07:20 AM
Okay, I'm up to Season 5 now...

Man, it sucks to fall for Carter. Bad things happen to you.

shades of eternity
02-24-2006, 08:59 PM
I have heard in my travels that with stargate, most of the big fun happened behind the scenes.

In particular legendary practical joke wars.

Is this true and if so, what can you guys tell me :).

Wild Card
03-03-2006, 11:21 PM
Wacth tonights epsoide and Vala is back sort of and She's pegant and don't know how

Chiasm
03-03-2006, 11:59 PM
Ah, finally Aeryn Sun is back. Er Vala. Whatever. Claudia Black is hot and she is now a regular cast member. :D

Decent episode. But any Aeryn, er Vala, centric episode is going to be good.

adamthered
03-04-2006, 07:06 AM
I started watching this show at the beginning of the season, since Ben Browder was joining the cast. I hadn't watched an entire episode since the pilot back on Showtime. Took almost the entire season but it finally grew on me. I'll definitely be back for season 10.

shades of eternity
03-04-2006, 09:33 AM
the frst season was downright painful to watch, and I seriously dislike their 2 hour star trek resolution. plus michael shanks couldn't talk archaeology if his life depended on it.

However richard dean anderson is a hoot to watch, christopher judges' eyebrow is almost as infamous as spock's or dwayne', and I like how some of their most troublesome problems aren't from space creatures, but their local government and international politics.

however, after season 11, the genie has to be let out of the bubble.

It's getting cartoony how very few know about sg1.

however, does anybody know about the hijinks that happens behind the scenes?

Emerald Ghost
03-30-2006, 04:20 PM
I liked the movie. Don't know anything about the tv shows though. Any good?

If you don't mind, if you talk about the plot, use magic spoiler coverup? Thanks. I haven't decided whether to get the DVD's or not, so just in case I don't want it ruined. :)

Gaz
03-30-2006, 04:33 PM
Yes. It does vary, but it's good popcorn entertainment most weeks, and fantastic sci-fi fun on occasion.

hshaukat
03-30-2006, 04:45 PM
Overall, it's really good. First season is a little slow sometimes, but they really hit their stride towards the end of that 1st season. From then on, it's all good until about mid-season 8 when it kinda lost it's luster for me. In between though, awesomely entertaining and fun.

Emerald Ghost
03-30-2006, 05:00 PM
Cool, maybe I will try the first season then. It's called Atlantis?

Chiasm
03-30-2006, 05:07 PM
There are two (three in a way) Stargates.

The first is Stargate SG1 and it just finished its ninth season. More on this in a minute.

The second is Stargate: Atlantis and this is a spinoff of the first.

The third is Stargate:Farscape which is also known as Stargate SG1 season nine. The first eight seasons for the most part were about the same four characters having adventures. Their leader as Colonel O'Neill (the same as from the movies) and played by Richard Dean Anderson. However, Anderson left the show after season eight and was replaced by Ben Browder (of Farscape). In addition Claudia Black, another Farscape alum, was in about half of the season nine episodes and is now a regular. Thus I call it Stargate : Farscape.

I can only comment on season nine with any authority since its the only one I've watched regularly (and then only to satiate my Farscape withdrawls). Its no Star Trek, Farscape, or Battlestar Galactica, but it does have mild popcorn value.

Emerald Ghost
03-30-2006, 05:11 PM
There are two (three in a way) Stargates.

The first is Stargate SG1 and it just finished its ninth season. More on this in a minute.

The second is Stargate: Atlantis and this is a spinoff of the first.

The third is Stargate:Farscape which is also known as Stargate SG1 season nine. The first eight seasons for the most part were about the same four characters having adventures. Their leader as Colonel O'Neill (the same as from the movies) and played by Richard Dean Anderson. However, Anderson left the show after season eight and was replaced by Ben Browder (of Farscape). In addition Claudia Black, another Farscape alum, was in about half of the season nine episodes and is now a regular. Thus I call it Stargate : Farscape.

I can only comment on season nine with any authority since its the only one I've watched regularly (and then only to satiate my Farscape withdrawls). Its no Star Trek, Farscape, or Battlestar Galactica, but it does have mild popcorn value.

What is Farscape?

G. Wayne
03-30-2006, 05:21 PM
Farscape was another short lived cult sci-fi show about a misfit group of aliens on board a stolen ship. The original focus of the show was a misplaced human who ended up in alien land. Never watched it thoroughly, but I've heard good things. The creature FX were done by Jim Henson's people, for what it's worth.

As for Stargate, I'm more familiar with the first few seasons. Overall, it's pretty good, and I do recommend it, but the plots get a little derivative as the show progresses. Filler episodes (ones that don't deal with the overall plot of the show) often have some varitiation on Character A getting possessed/infected by Alien Entity B, miraculoulsy being saved by Plot Device C.

Wild Card
03-30-2006, 05:59 PM
Farscape was another short lived cult sci-fi show about a misfit group of aliens on board a stolen ship.
You call four seasons short?

Chiasm
03-30-2006, 06:17 PM
What is Farscape?

Only the best show ever to be on TV. :D Its far and away my favorite ever show. But its kind of an acquired taste as it gets a bit weird at times and unless you know the context of the weirdness you'll be lost. And the first part of season I was really crappy while the show was still finding its footing and the characters were still being developed.

Essentially its about an astronaut in another galaxy caught in the middle of a war. He gets the knowledge of the ultimate weapon implanted in his head and both sides are after him for it. He and some aliens are on the run from them. Its weird and hard to understand at times. Many reasons, for instance the fact that the main character, Crichton, in season I gets a neural clone of the main bad guy implanted in his head. Oftentimes you'll see Crichton interacting with the clone in imaginary settings in his mind - if you don't know about the clone and were just flipping on you wouldn't understand why Scorpius (the main bad guy) is wearing a pink bunny suit while talking to Crichton.

Chiasm
03-30-2006, 06:18 PM
You call four seasons short?

And a miniseries to boot. While I'm sad that Farscape never got its intended 5th season I'm still overall happy that it did get as much as it did. Unlike Firefly :(

Emerald Ghost
03-30-2006, 06:23 PM
And a miniseries to boot. While I'm sad that Farscape never got its intended 5th season I'm still overall happy that it did get as much as it did. Unlike Firefly :(

Oh! Firefly I know! That was the Buffy guy's show.

I need to watch Serenty.

Chiasm
03-30-2006, 06:29 PM
This is the trailer to the miniseries that wrapped up Farscape. Its very spoilerific as to the first four seasons though. If the trailer doesn't intrigue you then nothing will. My first real Farscape experience came while Sci-Fi was promoting this miniseries and the trailer prompted me to watch a few of episodes during the marathon and I went back from there and watched it all.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jkQh-2F0AiE&search=farscape

Jared
03-30-2006, 06:31 PM
Stargage SG-1 can be derivative as hell, both of Star Trek episodes and of itself, but it's (usually) decently written and performed. My biggest problems were that Richard Dean "MacGuyver" Anderson's character becomes really annoying after a while, and the main villains, the Goa'uld were constantly doing their best to one-up the old Bond villains for ineptness, while their limitless hordes of Jaffa warriors seem to have flunked out of Stormtrooper school.

With the 9th season, there' a new enemy, with a real attempt by the writers to make them seem a genuine threat. Ben Browder, playing basically the same guy he did on Farscape, is added to the cast to replace MacGuyver. The few episodes I've seen struck me as a definite improvement, but I'm still not sold on the show. In terms of drama, Battlestar Galactica makes it look like utterly juvenile tripe, as Stargate utterly squanders (and strains credibility) with the way it handles its "real-world" setting. Incidentally, Galactica's special effects look vastly superior. In terms of imagination and cleverness, the bygone Farscape and the new Dr. Who both beat Stargate out.

I'd recommend giving the movie a rent. I don't mind catching an episode here or there if nothing else is on (and SG-1 is on *alot*), but by no means do I consider it great, or even particularly good television. I think it's a rather sorry state of affairs that such a mediocre show like SG-1 can last so long and even spawn a spinoff, and utter crap like Mutant X and Andromeda even managed to last multiple seasons, just because there are contingents of people so hungry for sci-fi so much they'll consume anything.

shades of eternity
03-30-2006, 07:37 PM
Since January, I've been borrowing the stargate SG-1 series off a buddy of mine, and have gone up to season 8

Great concepts, good ideas, and seriously like some of the combinations. Still, it has a tendency to be somewhat simplistic and the villians are a tad...cartoony.

It does suffer from the same flaws of ST-TNG (aka must have storyarc wrap up within a 2 hour episode), although it does try to make the occasional villian credible.

Richard Dean Anderson, while not a great actor, is fun to watch as a sarcastic jerk. Window of oppertunity is his best episode. Unfortunately, it's in the early season.

Michael Shanks does a good job in character development, but he really doesn't know his archaeology worth a darm.

Amanda Tapping is okay considering she ends up playing "superwoman" for most of the storyline

Christopher Judge is a hoot as the Jaffa warrior, and has an eyebrow that's almost as legendary as spock's.

To be honest, the best heroic characters were the supporting cast (Hammond, Frazier, Jacob, Bra'tac, Thor), and it feels like they could do so much more with it. A personal favorite was when General Hammon took a small squad and used them on the prometheus. That could have been a great spin off show.

I liked Daniel's wife and skara, but it felt like they were just there when it suited them. Although I give them credit for killing off her early in the series. That took a lot of moxie, but I have a feeling it was because they didn't want her in the show. Still she did have a nude scene in the first episode :D


The Goa'uld are a great concept, but because they are not allowed to win in the script, they become almost parody's of themself.

Apophis was for all intents and purpose a hillbilly Goa'uld, for his skills were limited and seemed to always be a little over the top for his power. He finally got some credibility by defeating so'kar and then they finally kill him for good.

Anubis was what Apophis should have been, a credible villian that should have scared the bejesus out of his enemies using his superior technolgy and rutherless tactics. Still he suffered Goa'uld personality order in betrayal for the sake of betrayal. Give him a touch of david xanatos and/or victor von doom and he would have truely rocked as a villian.

The Jaffa are also fun, but every time we start to know one other then Bra'tac, they die a horrible death. They are in effect the equivelent of the red shirts for Stargate for both sides. Bra'tac was the exception, and was fun to watch how a crazy old sensei still kicked butt.

The Replicators were an attempt to have a swarming villian and a cheap excuse to keep the Asgard busy. When they went humanoid they became even goofier and as alternative to fighting with the Goa'uld. I would have prefered a less "must stop by duex eh machina" villian because until they figured out their weakness they pretty much whomped everybody.

They seem to have two settings on their villians: wus, or unbeatable. A balence would have been great.

The Asgard were one of my favorites of the show. I felt that they were used a little too much as "Humanities big incompant brother" for my taste, but I seriously liked Thor. I still say they should have had him stop by for a beer once at Jack O'Neals house.

The Tok'ra are a rebel faction of the Goa'uld that were kinda neat, but seemed to exist for the sole purpose of screwing over humanity. The only way they got anything was do to Jacob's influence (another great character).

The Tollan, a race of technology advanced humans were worse then the Tok'ra, in that they were only willing to give out their technology, when it was useless. But I found the pretentiousness of sg-1 that they were willing to set them up for an entire planet to die because they were conspired against. After using the whole jaffa arguement to why they weren't nuking the system lords, it made it very hypocritcal.

The Ancients are useless, end of story. They leave cool toys, but this whole "higher being" stuff got old fast.

The thought that goes into their toys overall is one of the best things about the show. They really do a good job coming up with kewl ideas that don't reak of "techno-babble" too badly. Like the ztats in particular and their development of ftl vehicles actually made a lot of sense.

One of the biggest irritation was how they tried to keep it under wraps this whole project. I can see for the first few years, but quite frankly, sg-1 should have ended after the 5th season, and been replaced with SG: 1st contact as the secret is leaked out to the public and the leaders have to deal with the results.

As they hand waved the big secret, it became less and less plausible to the point that the public are a bunch of morons.

Lord of Denial
03-31-2006, 06:12 AM
I really like the show. It is good and sometimes great entertainment if you don't sit there and nitpick it to death like most sci-fi fans like to do. If you are a person that can just sit back and let a show entertain you than Stargate fits the bill.

ChrisIII
03-31-2006, 07:05 AM
Haven't seen much of the show but I do know this:


Some of the movie supporting cast do return in a few episodes-mainly the natives of the Egypt planet.

There are various other continuity differences from the movie, I think-Anderson's O'neill is more lighthearted than Russel's; the nature of the aliens is also different, I think. They seem to be more parastic than whatever Ra changed to at the end of the movie.

Also Stargate movie creator Dean Devlin has nothing to do with the series.

G. Wayne
03-31-2006, 12:02 PM
You call four seasons short?

In the sense that the show was praised to no end, IIRC the response to the show being canceled was essentially "Wtf?!", and that Stargate has lasted over twice as long, yes, I consider Farscape short-lived.

adamthered
03-31-2006, 12:17 PM
Yep, Farscape was killed off before it's time was over. Sci-Fi blamed it on everything from the ratings being too low (it was their #2 show behind Star Gate) to being too smart and difficult for a casual viewer to jump into.

At least we got The Peacekeeper Wars. Though as much as I enjoyed it I much rather would have seen that played out in 22 episodes instead of what amounted to a run time of 4 episodes.

Though Ben Browder starting up on Star Gate now has me watching that.

The bad thing is, Farscape was hailed and praised by critics the same as Battlestar Galactica is right now. Unfortunately, Sci Fi didn't promote Farscape like they have BSG. But, a lot has changed in the last three years since Farscape was cancelled, reality TV isn't as big as it was (another aspect Sci-Fi blamed on FS cancellation).

Okay, I'm done. Farscape threads always stir up the old emotions. I didn't watch Sci-Fi for two years (with the exception of Peacekeeper Wars) and now am back to it with Star Gate and BSG.

yeoman
03-31-2006, 03:12 PM
Haven't seen much of the show but I do know this:


Some of the movie supporting cast do return in a few episodes-mainly the natives of the Egypt planet.

There are various other continuity differences from the movie, I think-Anderson's O'neill is more lighthearted than Russel's; the nature of the aliens is also different, I think. They seem to be more parastic than whatever Ra changed to at the end of the movie.



The difference in O'Neill could really have used a better explanation, but there is one that's a bit understated. Russell's O'Neill was a few month out on having lost his child and divorced his wife. He was pretty much on a suicide mission from the beggining of the movie.

Space MacGuyver is O'Neill with a few years out from his tragedies. They still effect him, but he's coping with life.

yeoman
03-31-2006, 03:14 PM
As for Starget Itself: Season 1 is okay. It's gets good at the end. Seasons 2 through 4 are flat out great. It goes downhill a bit after that IMHO, but stays decent up through about season 7.

Seasons 8 and 9 I was less than impressed by.

CaptainAwesome
06-14-2006, 07:27 PM
Yesterday I watched the movie Stargate, with James Spader and Kurt Russel. It was a fun movie to watch, but I wouldnt call it great. But this movie (and the subsequent TV spinoffs) seem to be very popular. So what is up with that? What makes this movie so special? Was it a major technological achievement at its time? I just dont get it.

Matt
06-14-2006, 07:30 PM
The movie itself, as I recall, wasn't that great - but then some other people got their hands on the premise and tweaked it to make a TV series.

The series isn't bad, the highlight of it being the often witty dialogue rather than the plots (which are usually pretty thin).

Spike-X
06-14-2006, 07:46 PM
It's amazing how many planets they land on look exactly like a Canadian pine forest.

DWEarhart
06-14-2006, 07:48 PM
It's amazing how many planets they land on look exactly like a Canadian pine forest.

And that's why the movie wasn't as successful as the television show. If they hadn't blown the budget on special effects, they could have afforded some pine tress instead of having to shoot in the middle of nowhere.

KenK
06-14-2006, 08:20 PM
It's amazing how many planets they land on look exactly like a Canadian pine forest.

Ya know?! God forbid they go to a planet that looks like a south pacific island!

Chevan
06-14-2006, 08:30 PM
It's amazing how many planets they land on look exactly like a Canadian pine forest.

No, see, all the planets that don't look like pine forests are failed terraforming experiments. Canada just turned out to be the ideal climate here on Earth for the Pine-Foresty Habitat.

shades of eternity
06-14-2006, 09:40 PM
:eek: the ancients were canadian?

Matt
06-14-2006, 10:18 PM
It's amazing how many planets they land on look exactly like a Canadian pine forest.

Just like in the classic Dr Who where almost every alien world they happened to visit looked like a disused quarry pit...

Typo Lad
07-25-2006, 08:45 AM
The Stargates are back. I've only caught the premiers so far, so I'm a week behind, but I really enjoyed them.

SG-1's loss of the Russian ship saddened me especially since right after that we see the Orion go kablooey on Atlantis.

Ronin still irritates the heck out of me.

Anyone else watching?

Cephus
07-25-2006, 09:42 AM
I'm just hoping that this season of SG-1 feels a little more cohesive, like they're actually going somewhere. Last season felt like they were just drifting around doing nothing in particular until close to the end of the season.

So far, both shows are doing alright, even though I really really hate Claudia Black becoming part of the cast.

Typo Lad
07-25-2006, 09:44 AM
Really? I rather like Vala. She's good comic relief.

But yeah, a lot of last season felt transitional.

tricksterpup
07-25-2006, 10:30 AM
Really? I rather like Vala. She's good comic relief.

But yeah, a lot of last season felt transitional.
But it was a Transitional season. You had Ben Browder take over the team and gathering everyone back up, plus the introduction of a new villain.

As for Vala, I like the Character. Its a step away from Aerune in Farscape. I am sure that is one reason Why Claudia took the job. I think she is doing a great job and one of the highlights of the show.

But I have an odd feeling about this. Who along with me feels that we shall see the asended Anubis again? And if he returns will he be ally or foe? If the writers do not bring him back, they are loosing a possible great plot devise.

Cephus
07-25-2006, 04:08 PM
Really? I rather like Vala. She's good comic relief.

I don't, but I really dislike that type of character. She's the dishonest slutty bitch from hell, I pass. She's had a lot of good interaction with Daniel, but I still dislike the character.

Jared
07-25-2006, 06:27 PM
But I have an odd feeling about this. Who along with me feels that we shall see the asended Anubis again? And if he returns will he be ally or foe? If the writers do not bring him back, they are loosing a possible great plot devise.

If they do reuse Anubis, I think they should go with that genetically engineered human "son", that appared in one episode. He ended up frozen on some planet, easy enough to bring him back. It was a more interesting, and workable version of the character, than having him be all half-ascended and godlike-but unable to use his power, etc... And he didn't have to strut around with a hood like a Dark Lord wannabe.

The only time the real Anubis really seemed interesting to me was in the very last episode he appeared in, with Daniel hanging out in the Ascended "diner". That was a nice twist, with him basically being the Devil there.

Lord of Denial
07-25-2006, 06:36 PM
If they do reuse Anubis, I think they should go with that genetically engineered human "son", that appared in one episode. He ended up frozen on some planet, easy enough to bring him back. It was a more interesting, and workable version of the character, than having him be all half-ascended and godlike-but unable to use his power, etc... And he didn't have to strut around with a hood like a Dark Lord wannabe.

The only time the real Anubis really seemed interesting to me was in the very last episode he appeared in, with Daniel hanging out in the Ascended "diner". That was a nice twist, with him basically being the Devil there.


That was a Russian military officer that Anubis was tricked into possessing and trapped on a frozen world. His " Son" was killed by Daniel Jackson and Cam Mitchell.

Ugoff
08-12-2006, 02:48 PM
I checked pages 1 to 13 and didnt see the Stargate thread so...Anyways is it just me or is this show boring as hell sometimes? I only use to watch SG every once in a blue moon cuz I didnt like it but with the edition of Ben and Claudia I've been a little more into it. But the past two episodes have been deathly boring.

The Watcher
08-18-2006, 07:20 AM
So, rumor has it that we'll finally meet the Furlings. Any speculation on what they'll be like?

Typo Lad
08-18-2006, 07:28 AM
I bet they'll be all sexy. We haven't had sexy aliens in a logn time.

PANDER TO US!

tricksterpup
08-18-2006, 07:41 AM
Tonight is the 200th episode, right?

Typo Lad
08-18-2006, 07:47 AM
Yep. Can't wait to see it replayed when it's not Shabbos.

Maybe I need a Tivo.

tricksterpup
08-18-2006, 07:49 AM
Yep. Can't wait to see it replayed when it's not Shabbos.

Maybe I need a Tivo.
Or just go ahead and download it via bittorrent?
If I miss a tvshow that is what I do. I do not download other things but tv shows. If I can copy it on a VCR then there should be no problem with me getting a digital copy.

Typo Lad
08-18-2006, 08:03 AM
That's actually what I do right now, with the same rationalization, but I still feel 'wrong". Like I'm supporting the pirates.

Since Suzannah DLs Lost and DH every week, if I throw in Eureka & both Stargates... well, I think that's the difference in getting a DVR from my cable provider.

tricksterpup
08-18-2006, 08:08 AM
That's actually what I do right now, with the same rationalization, but I still feel 'wrong". Like I'm supporting the pirates.
I would feel wrong supporting this pirate too.
http://www.thewiggles.com.au/about/friends/CAPTAIN/cf-picture.jpg

Since Suzannah DLs Lost and DH every week, if I throw in Eureka & both Stargates... well, I think that's the difference in getting a DVR from my cable provider.
Yeah, same here. I am loving Eureka myself.
But tonight looks to be a great Episode of Stargate.

Typo Lad
08-18-2006, 08:17 AM
The DVR's 9.99 a month. If I can hook it to an external SATA drive, then I'm so there.

tricksterpup
08-18-2006, 08:21 AM
The DVR's 9.99 a month. If I can hook it to an external SATA drive, then I'm so there.
Oooo.. dont get me to thinking here.
Actually, what I get downloaded is nicier quality than my home cable. Now isnt that sad?

Typo Lad
08-18-2006, 08:27 AM
That's a good point.

Plus I like to watch on my laptop.

sirgod
08-18-2006, 10:09 PM
Man how funny and refreshing a show. I hadn't laughed that long in awhile at a TV show.

From the beggining, "who would make a movie after just three episodes" (firefly referance)

to all the other inside jokes. Trek, Team America, etc. One of the more original from a very Original show.

Stephen

moon knight
08-19-2006, 12:06 AM
I liked it alot. My favorite part was the Teal'c Private Investigator scene.

DF2506
08-19-2006, 11:01 AM
This was definitly my favorite episode this season! My favorite part was the Farscape spoof! LOVED that (course I'm a huge Farscape fan). Ben Browder as Stark was hilarous, and Shanks as Crichton and the others (like their verison of Rygel. hehe). And that one guys line, " I have no idea what that is.." heheh. Hilarous. Though I did think the puppet thing was funny, so was the zombie one, and of course so was Jack wanting to stay invisible (he would). Funny episode. Perfect for the 200th. I think the episode really had a lot of Scape in. Just the feel of the episode reminded me of that show...*sigh*

Anyway, great episode. Liked the behind the scenes too.

DF2506
" And Atlantis was good last night too. Though Stargate was the best! "

mybotisgone
08-19-2006, 02:06 PM
I thought it was funny when Jack O'Neill shows up and Daniel Jackson saids, "No, there be spoilers.":evilsmile

But I also liked the Farscape spoof. Do to tthe fact that two of the actors are from Farscape. But the one that really got me was the younger hiper in your face actors. Hearing that one kid playing young Teal'c saying, "Oy, dog! I was going to tap that." I was on the floor laughing my ass off. But the 200th ep was funny as hell.

scottv
08-19-2006, 04:00 PM
I thought it was funny when Jack O'Neill shows up and Daniel Jackson saids, "No, there be spoilers.":evilsmile

But I also liked the Farscape spoof. Do to tthe fact that two of the actors are from Farscape. But the one that really got me was the younger hiper in your face actors. Hearing that one kid playing young Teal'c saying, "Oy, dog! I was going to tap that." I was on the floor laughing my ass off. But the 200th ep was funny as hell.


I heard that it was really good. I am at college but I have all the episodes recording at home on DVR!

The Watcher
08-19-2006, 05:35 PM
Loved the episode and all the various references. And the Furlings! We finally saw the Furlings (sort of)!

Ok, so not really. But the faux Furlings were amusing.

mybotisgone
08-20-2006, 01:30 AM
First of all The Watcher you do Know that I put my spoiler up as a joke ,Right?:D But anyways I was looking through YouTube And wanted to put the best clip up, but there is too many. So, I'm just going to put up this like link have fun. http://youtube.com/results?search_query=Stargate+200th&search=Search :D

Deathstroke
08-22-2006, 04:58 AM
Sci-Fi Channel has cancelled Stargate SG-1, but renewed Stargate Atlantis for a fourth season.

News Link (http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20060822/tv_nm/stargate_dc)

Typo Lad
08-22-2006, 06:19 AM
Bleh! UNHAPPY

Typo Lad
08-22-2006, 06:20 AM
Although they are looking for a new home:

On August 21, 2006, the Sci Fi Channel confirmed that Stargate SG1 has been canceled after ten seasons.[3] Executive producer Robert C. Cooper told GateWorld, however, that they are hard at work looking for a new outlet for the story to continue.

"As far as the future, I can't comment yet because nothing has been confirmed," Cooper said. "What we want to emphasize is that the franchise is not dying. SG-1 will go on in some way. We're just not ready to announce how." Cooper also emphasizes that, though emotions are running high among Stargate fans who have just learned the news, it is important to keep the show's ratings strong throughout the remainder of its run on SciFi. "What's most important is that fans don't take out their frustration with SciFi by not watching," he said. "In fact, what they need to do is watch both SG-1 and Atlantis LIVE and make sure the ratings stay strong. That helps prove to other outlets that might be interested in SG-1 that the show is still as strong as we think it is."

Yeah, cause that worked so well for Farscape...

Typo Lad
08-22-2006, 06:27 AM
Well, this is good:

Charles Cohen, executive vice president of MGM Television, has voiced plans to develop further Stargate films and possibly a third television series (discounting Infinity as a Stargate television series).[22] Additionally, Brad Wright and Robert C. Cooper, developers of SG-1 have signed a contract with MGM to produce an SG-1-based movie when the television show does eventually come to an end.

This, not so much.

Plans for producing two sequels of the original film were announced by the original movie's creator Dean Devlin at the 2006 San Diego Comic-Con. He has said he's currently in talks with MGM to produce four movies and he would like for two of them to be the final two movies in his envisioned Stargate trilogy.[23] In an interview with SciFi Wire,[24] Devlin says that should the sequels be made, he hopes to enlist Kurt Russell and James Spader in the two sequels. These sequels would ignore the 10 years of mythology created by SG-1 and Atlantis if they are made.

So there are two different potential Stargate movies, one based on SG-1, one based on the show?

Typo Lad
08-22-2006, 10:13 AM
Wait, so lasxt week's Atlantis just uttelry ripped off Buffy's Insane Asylum ep?

tricksterpup
08-22-2006, 10:17 AM
You know, this show does well in ratings, I am not sure why Scifi doesnt want the series any more. *sigh* that channel makes no sense.
I guess Ben Browder and Claudia Black can not get a break.

Typo Lad
08-22-2006, 10:18 AM
It's all Browder & Black's fault.

kalorama
08-22-2006, 10:33 AM
Wait, so lasxt week's Atlantis just uttelry ripped off Buffy's Insane Asylum ep?

That idea wasn't exactly fresh back when Whedon did it for Buffy.

As for cancelling Stargate SG1: Everything ends eventually. Ten years is a long run for any TV show.

DF2506
08-22-2006, 10:34 AM
Just heard the news about SG-1. *sigh* I'm really going to miss it. Personally, I'd rather see Atlantis go then SG-1 (not that I'd really want either one to go, but if I had to pick one...). I really like having Ben & Claudia on the show, they've made great additions!

On the plus side though, this does open the door back up for potential Farscape projects for Ben & Claudia (hey, I can always hope!).

As for future projects for SG-1, I hope that they do some mini-series or something on sci-fi for it. We've already had a Stargate thearter movie and if Devlins project does go ahead it would be too confusing (lol) to have two different movies. A Stargate SG-1 mini-series would be cool though. Get Anderson, Shanks, Judge, Bridges, Browder, Black, and Tapping all back for it! That would be cool!

Anyway, we knew eventually something would have to give with Sci-Fi. They are doing so many new series (Eureka, Caprica, etc), it was just a matter of time really....

Ten years though. Thats pretty impressive. Though it would have been even more impressive if sci-fi had taken it to season twenty...

edit:

" That idea wasn't exactly fresh back when Whedon did it for Buffy."

Tis true. DS9 did it before Buffy. I'm sure others have done it too..

Oh and Medium did the aslyum thing last season I believe...

So ya...its just a general idea that everyone uses...

DF2506

tricksterpup
08-22-2006, 10:41 AM
" That idea wasn't exactly fresh back when Whedon did it for Buffy."

Tis true. DS9 did it before Buffy. I'm sure others have done it too..

Oh and Medium did the aslyum thing last season I believe...

So ya...its just a general idea that everyone uses...

DF2506
Only difference was with Whedon, he left you feeling that the entire show could just have been made up in her mind. I loved that for an ending. You never really knew or not. The Whedon Universe could have been buffy's insanity..

Now back to stargate. It would be nice to even add a few members to SG:Atlantis as well.

Cephus
08-22-2006, 12:18 PM
They've been talking about an SG-1 theatrical film for years now, in fact what turned into Atlantis was supposed to be the setup for the movie back in season 7 when they thought they were getting cancelled. Now that SG-1 is going to end, the movie can move forward.

Dean Devlin has also been talking about doing a sequel to the original Stargate movie for years, he's never been happy that they took his idea and made something without his stamp of approval. It's really sour grapes if you ask me.

And yes, this is yet one more example of SciFi's incompetence. They finally get a record breaking show and they can it, probably so they can show more wrestling. Go figure.

kalorama
08-22-2006, 12:22 PM
For Devlin to make a Stargate movie that ignores the 10 years of TV show continuity would really make no sense at this point. Like it or not, the TV show has supplanted the movie as the "real" Stargate in the minds of fans.

Deathstroke
08-22-2006, 01:49 PM
It's all Browder & Black's fault.

You are so off my Xmas....I mean Hannukah....list.

Deathstroke
08-22-2006, 01:50 PM
TVGuide.com is reporting that some cast members (nobody actually named) will move over to Stargate: Atlantis.

Jmacq1
08-22-2006, 02:56 PM
TVGuide.com is reporting that some cast members (nobody actually named) will move over to Stargate: Atlantis.

Given that the whole cast was likely signed for one more season, it could be any of them.

However the only one of the SG-1 crew that isn't redundant with other members of the Atlantis crew is Michael Shanks/Daniel Jackson. Then again they could probably kill off some Atlantis types in favor of SG-1 types and I wouldn't have a problem with it.

As much as I like Director Skinner, they could easily make Ben Browder/Cameron Mitchell the commander of the "Daedalus". Or even Samantha Carter if they wanted to.

It's just a shame, because the SG-1 cast has such great chemistry. Without them all there it'll feel...incomplete. But any chance to see them still on-screen is good in my book.

At the very least, I'm sensing "frequent guest-stars".

kalorama
08-22-2006, 03:07 PM
Given that Carter and Mitchell outrank Sheppard, putting either of them on Atlantis would push Sheppard to the background. Jackson wouldn't really have much to do on Atlantis, and Dr. McKay already fills the role of uptight nerd/scientist very well. I think Vala/Claudia Black is most likely to jump over to regular Atlantis cast status.

tricksterpup
08-22-2006, 03:10 PM
Given that Carter and Mitchell outrank Sheppard, putting either of them on Atlantis would push Sheppard to the background. Jackson wouldn't really have much to do on Atlantis, and Dr. McKay already fills the role of uptight nerd/scientist very well. I think Vala/Claudia Black is most likely to jump over to regular Atlantis cast status.
If Deathstroke had his way, she would jump on him.

Typo Lad
08-22-2006, 03:35 PM
Wasn't Daniel Jackson's character originally going to be on Atlantis anyway?

I'm just irked that SF has the longest running prime-time SF show.,..and are axing it.

tricksterpup
08-22-2006, 03:43 PM
Wasn't Daniel Jackson's character originally going to be on Atlantis anyway?

I'm just irked that SF has the longest running prime-time SF show.,..and are axing it.
And they have the ratings as well. It makes no sense.

Cephus
08-22-2006, 04:11 PM
And they have the ratings as well. It makes no sense.

This is SciFi, that says it all. They're the FOX of the cable set. Doing stupid things is their job.

Blueferret
08-22-2006, 10:14 PM
For Devlin to make a Stargate movie that ignores the 10 years of TV show continuity would really make no sense at this point. Like it or not, the TV show has supplanted the movie as the "real" Stargate in the minds of fans.

IIRC, he wants to sequals around the pyramids in Mexico and Peru.

Dr. Banner
08-22-2006, 10:25 PM
And they have the ratings as well. It makes no sense.

That's not true. The ratings are lower than Atlantis and Sci-fi's newest darling, Battlestar Galactica. For a show that's as expensive to produce as Stargate (Astronomical cast salaries, the evening of the Canadian dollar with the US), they've got to cut their losses somehow.

Ratings for this season:

10x01 - "Flesh and Blood" - 1.4
10x02 - "Morpheus" - 1.6
10x03 - "The Pegasus Project" - 1.5
10x04 - "Insiders" - 1.3
10x05 - "Uninvited" - 1.4
10x06 - "200" - 1.9

Compared to Atlantis (which also really has little to brag about):

3x01 - "No Man's Land" - 1.5
3x02 - "Misbegotten" - 1.6
3x03 - "Irresistible" - 1.5
3x04 - "Sateda" - 1.4
3x05 - "Progeny" - 1.6
3x06 - "The Real World" - 1.8

And, just for fun, Battlestar Galactica (just gonna take the last 6 episodes, which are the lowest rated so far):

Scar February 3, 2006 1.9
Sacrifice February 10, 2006 1.8
The Captain's Hand February 17, 2006 1.7
Downloaded February 24, 2006 1.8
Lay Down Your Burdens pt.1 March 3, 2006 1.8
Lay Down Your Burdens pt.2 March 10, 2006 1.9

Including the "huge" rating jump of RDA's appearance (and, I must add, I LOOOOOOOVED the Farscape and Trek scenes), the average number of views for SG1 is 1.95 Million viewers. The all time high average, in the second half of season 8, was 2.55.

And it's only dropping, and has been steadily since season 8.

For a show that lasted 10 years, this is nothing short of amazing. Let them quit before the show REALLY goes downhill.

Besides, there's talk of the 3rd spinoff and movies. Gate is the new Trek. It won't die for long.

Jmacq1
08-23-2006, 05:48 AM
Given that Carter and Mitchell outrank Sheppard, putting either of them on Atlantis would push Sheppard to the background. Jackson wouldn't really have much to do on Atlantis, and Dr. McKay already fills the role of uptight nerd/scientist very well. I think Vala/Claudia Black is most likely to jump over to regular Atlantis cast status.

Heck, promote Carter to full Colonel and have her replace Weir! Bring Jackson over as was initially intended (in universe, that is, because he -was- supposed to go to the Pegasus Galaxy before the Ori crisis brought him back to SG-1), and give Mitchell command of the "Daedalus" with Vala frequently guest starring, and we're set!

Be a shame not to have Teal'C around, but well...of all the characters, he has the easiest "out", and the -least- reason to be on "Atlantis" except as a guest-star.

Jackson has plenty to do on Atlantis...there's a whole ancient city just waiting for him to analyze.

kalorama
08-23-2006, 09:17 AM
Heck, promote Carter to full Colonel and have her replace Weir!
Not a move I would endorse in any way, shape, or form.

Jackson has plenty to do on Atlantis...there's a whole ancient city just waiting for him to analyze.

Except they seem to spend very little (onscreen) time actually exploring the city.

Jmacq1
08-23-2006, 09:59 AM
Not a move I would endorse in any way, shape, or form.

Well, you're not the producer, so...either way, Weir has definitely come across as the "weakest link" to me on Atlantis. Particularly after last week's episode.

Except they seem to spend very little (onscreen) time actually exploring the city.

Doesn't mean they can't start. There's tons of stories to be had with exploring the city itself. Not to mention that in-universe (as stated earlier), Daniel Jackson was slated to go to Atlantis -anyway-.

tricksterpup
08-23-2006, 10:12 AM
I wonder what they ratings are for the Sindicated SG1 is?

kalorama
08-23-2006, 11:28 AM
Well, you're not the producer

That makes two of us.

so...either way, Weir has definitely come across as the "weakest link" to me on Atlantis. Particularly after last week's episode.

To you (who's not the producer). I thought Weir's character really came off well in the episode.

Doesn't mean they can't start.

But it does mean that they've obviously built the show on a somewhat different model than Stargate SG1. SciFi canceled SG1 for a reason (whatever it may be). That being the case, turning Atlantis into a clone of SG-1 is probably not the best move.

There's tons of stories to be had with exploring the city itself.

There's a limited amount to what they can do just by staying in the city because they're the only ones there. Most of the action is generated by offworld exploits, which Jackson would be less likely to have reason to participate in if he's brought there for the primary purpose of uncovering the city's secrets.

torippu
08-23-2006, 11:35 AM
Sci-Fi Channel has cancelled Stargate SG-1, but renewed Stargate Atlantis for a fourth season.

News Link (http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20060822/tv_nm/stargate_dc)
I find it funny that SciFi cancels the show right after I start watching it. Of course, if Ben Browder & Claudia Black weren't on the show, I don't think that I would have ever bothered to watch SG-1.

Cephus
08-23-2006, 02:30 PM
I find it funny that SciFi cancels the show right after I start watching it. Of course, if Ben Browder & Claudia Black weren't on the show, I don't think that I would have ever bothered to watch SG-1.

Which just means you've missed 8 seasons of one of the best shows on TV.

Typo Lad
08-23-2006, 03:28 PM
Ben Browder joining the cast got me interested, and made me go back and watch it from the start.

Jmacq1
08-23-2006, 03:31 PM
And you know Sci-Fi isn't going to stop -airing- SG-1. They'll rerun it into oblivion. Not that I mind, since it was those reruns coupled with Black and Browder's move over that got me watching it in the first place. Now I just need to complete my DVD collection of the series....

Typo Lad
08-23-2006, 03:36 PM
It hit me: The second a Sci-Fi show gets popular enough to need a "real" budget, that's when they cancel it, isn't it?

Maybe if they put more money into original shows and less into those craptastic movies of the week...

Wild Card
08-23-2006, 04:27 PM
Normally I'll say no big deal since it had a good ten year run (how many shows on TV now been around that long?). However they are cancelling a Sci-Fi show to give Extremely Crapy Wrestling another hour a week I don't like how they trunning the Sci-Fi Channel into USA-lite.

Mac Danny
08-26-2006, 08:20 PM
So in the entire run of stargate we've seen gods from a lot of pre-christian mythologies. I was curious, has Jesus ever showed up?

Maybe he became acended? Maybe he came back a bit taking human form only to turn to light after a while. Just thinking..

I'd like to see that.. Jesus as an alien. I'd make a lot of sense in Stargate Mythology since the gods we've met have all been aliens.

lonewolf23k
08-26-2006, 09:27 PM
As far as I know, the closest they've come to the judeo-christian mythology was Sokar, who passed himself off as the Devil a few times in Earth's past.

Edot: To elaborate, I think that after the Goa'uld left Earth, humanity was pretty much left to itself, and whatever religions were later established, humanity came up with on it's own without alien interference.

Cephus
08-27-2006, 03:09 PM
Unfortunately, that would piss a lot of people off so no, you'll never see Jesus as an alien. Heh, it would be funny though.

Look out! The new Stargate: SG-1 movie! Snakes in a Jaffa! Coming soon to a theater near you!

Typo Lad
08-27-2006, 05:21 PM
Well, they had Satan be a Gu'ald, so why not run with it?

Deathstroke
10-11-2006, 07:16 PM
Stargate SG-1 has been given the go ahead for two feature length movies.

Story Link (http://community.tvguide.com/thread.jspa?threadID=700008699)

Typo Lad
10-11-2006, 07:51 PM
Yay! It's something!

Typo Lad
01-30-2007, 10:16 AM
Finally catching up on my SG-1s and Atlantis's.

NOOOO! DR. BECKET!

What a way to go out

Typo Lad
01-30-2007, 10:52 AM
Hey, I didn't know there was going to be a third series (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stargate:_Third_series)

tricksterpup
01-30-2007, 04:05 PM
Hey, I didn't know there was going to be a third series (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stargate:_Third_series)

I would love to see both Shenks and Browder in this series.

Karl H
01-31-2007, 01:47 AM
Woo Hoo - watched The Shroud last night... Great ep... I'm not gonna spoil but it's a really good episode

SPJ
11-19-2007, 01:34 AM
Wow, okay big 10 month bump I guess.

So Sam is now the leader of Atlantis, and Teyla is pregnant and the Athosians have vanished. This season started off really slow and boring but this is getting interesting.

One problem who doesn't Sam just gate back to Earth get her device that took that village "out of phase" against the Ori and use it to protect Atlantis? Speaking of the Ori what happened to them? At the end of SG-1 their priors and soldiers were still at large in the Milky Way.

Any thoughts?

PuddleJumper67
12-18-2007, 11:18 AM
Seasons 3-6 of Stargate SG-1 will be launching on iTunes today.

PuddleJumper67
01-04-2008, 05:54 PM
...And Seasons 7-9 of SG-1 will be launching on iTunes on Monday, January 7!