Thor movie

[LordAllMighty]

Saw it, liked it......probably won't watch it again. After the Frost Giant fight (which was awesome by the way), I felt the movie went way too much by the numbers....didn't really surprise me that much. Still think it was a good movie though.:smile:

[Fast]

I saw THOR twice this weekend. On Friday with friends and earlier today in IMAX 3D with my mother of all people and she was raving about how good of a movie it was and how surprised she was. This film is going to be huge I say, huge.

Saw it in 2D yesterday. Gonna see it in IMAX 3D in a week or 2. I am excited since it'll be my first IMAX 3D thats an actual movie (not those 15 minute documentary things or what have you).

[Ilash]

I have a review of the film up now at my blog. Check it out, if you wish, here (http://ilanpreskovsky.blogspot.com/2011/04/thor.html).

[Ziza9]

Saw it in 3D last night and it exceeded my expectations. One big giant For Asgard WOW from me! I loved it. As much as I'm excited for AVENGERS, I'm way more excited now for Thor 2. Can't wait to see more of the Nine Realms.

[Thundermonkey]

I saw THOR twice this weekend. On Friday with friends and earlier today in IMAX 3D with my mother of all people and she was raving about how good of a movie it was and how surprised she was. This film is going to be huge I say, huge.


you took your mom to see Thor on Mother's Day.

Nice...

[David Walton]

Exactly. That's because it was as much a prequel to Avengers as it was a sequal to Iron Man. That's what I liked about it. It's a series of shows in feature film format. I thought that IM2 was a good installment to the Avengers series.

It was...okay, but didn't meet the expectations teased by IM in the slightest.


I put Thor on the same level as IM2. Both were entertaining films, both were good additions to the Avengers series, both had good acting, but both had flawed stories / scripts that kept them from being great. IM2 wrapped too many things up, while Thor felt rushed (the battle with the Destroyer was too short and too easy, and the sudden burning love for Foster strained belief).

I wouldn't put IM2 in the same league as THOR, which is the better film by far.


Rather than view it that way, I choose to view it as such: THOR is just THAT AWESOME.

Well, yeah, that's the whole point of that scene. Anything more would have detracted from Thor's final confrontation with Loki, and undermined the tension built by the Ice Giants' invasion of Asgard. And really, this movie feels right at two hours.

[David Walton]

you took your mom to see Thor on Mother's Day.

Nice...

I did, too. Mom was never big on superheroes, until I took her to see X-Men in 1999. And she's loved the Marvel films ever since.

[Tien Long]

Hey all, saw the movie with my sister in IMAX 3D earlier today. Surprisingly, my sister, who is not a comic book geek or action film aficionado in the slightlest, absolutely loved this movie, which surprised me since I felt that though the movie was strong, it could have been better. Still, there were many themes and aspects that really resonated with me. Moreoever, I really geeked out with the comic references (especially the final scene, which I'll talk about later.) Anyway, here are some more in-depth thoughts:

- I was really struck in a very personal way watching Thor mature and grow as an individual. His frustration and anger over wanting to prove himself and the subsequent mistakes that he commits because of his stubborness, selfishness, and arrogance really spoke to me. Indeed, I'm going through a little bit of that myself at the moment. Seeing friends and family members getting jobs and becoming successful, I've been very angry as of late, which has caused me to make some pretty stupid choices. Seeing Thor lose faith in himself and not know his direction in life resonated ALOT with me. Still, though it was great that he learned humility in the end, I'm a little confused to learn how he learned it. Was it due to him being unable to lift the hammer? His interaction with humans? If the latter, I feel that there weren't many scenes were he did this.

- Though their characterizations were cliche, I still enjoyed the depictions of Odin and Loki. I appreciated that Odin was made out to be a battle-tested warrior, but also a wise ruler who yearned for peace. The strongest scene for me that showed Odin's wisdom was towards the beginning of the movie, when he's just about to tell Thor that he is the future ruler. Though very subtle, Odin's look and mannerisms strongly indicated that he did not have confidence in Thor. I applaud Anthony Hopkins' performance in this scene.

As for Loki, he played the conniving brother quite well. Liked how in the beginning scenes, he seems weak and unassuming. I really liked the fact that the audience didn't know what his ultimate plan was until his final confrontation with Thor. The scene that spoke volumes for me, however, was when he confronted Odin over his Frost Giant heritage. Seeing him express his anger over being the second, inferior child was profound.

- The secondary characters, eh, they were ok. Actually liked Kat Dennings appearance in this film over Natalie Portman.

- Didn't like the fight scenes that much. Yeah, Thor spun, threw, and hit things with Mjolnir, but I just couldn't get a clear look at the action. The fight with the Frost Giants, the Destroyer, and Loki, could have been better.

- Loved the humor and funny moments. Seriously lol'd when Thor was tased, hit by a car, and smiled for his facebook picture. Really lol'd when Sif and the Warriors Three (or "Xena, Jackie Chan, and Robin Hood") all appeared at Jane Foster's makeshift lab.

- Totally geeked out over the easter eggs in Thor. Though this was briefly touched upon in some of the preview clips, Agent Barton's appearance was awesome. Glad to see that there was significant screen time devoted to this.
Glad to see JMS and Stan Lee. HOWEVER, my true geek out moment came during the revealing of the Cosmic Cube. Though I did muffle my voice, I'm sure that my scream of "OH MY GOD" did attract the attention of several theater patrons. Pretty sure that I was the only one in the theater who knew what the Cosmic Cube was.

So, yes, I agree with some posters who say that Thor was very by the numbers and cliche. There were many things that could have been further explored. However, I still think that themes like the hero learning humility, a jealous brother scheming against the favored one, and the complex relationship between fathers and sons are still very worthwhile and interesting.

[DarkWarriorBlake]

Hey all, saw the movie with my sister in IMAX 3D earlier today. Surprisingly, my sister, who is not a comic book geek or action film aficionado in the slightlest, absolutely loved this movie, which surprised me since I felt that though the movie was strong, it could have been better.

She was probably just focusing on Hemsworth's body. I'm a straight man and I was focusing on the damn thing. :( Inadequacy.

[Global Honored]

you took your mom to see Thor on Mother's Day.

Nice...


I know right, lol. Thankfully my mom is into pop culture and had a basic idea of who/what Thor was all about and she will watch pretty much anything and be interested. I'm a lucky guy. Better yet, she liked it as much as I did. I don't think she will be picking up any comics this week but she will definitely be down to see a sequel.

[GRANT!]

Saw it in 3D last night and it exceeded my expectations. One big giant For Asgard WOW from me! I loved it. As much as I'm excited for AVENGERS, I'm way more excited now for Thor 2. Can't wait to see more of the Nine Realms.

Yeah I would love to see more down with Asgard and the Nine Realms in Thor 2. I do think they should try to do more location shooting. And some LOTR style model work for Asgard.

I read this [spoiler filled] article about the ending (http://www.badassdigest.com/2011/05/07/why-thor-has-the-wrong-ending).

I think it makes some valid points. The movie would have been stronger if Thor got stuck on Earth. Thors sacrifice should have been giving up a chance to go home versus leaving Jane behind. Like the article points out it just leaves him in a similar place where he started the movie. I think being stranded on earth would help him grow as a person.

Also I get the feeling however they throw him into the Avengers movie is going to undermine the ending of this movie. Like I said before It's also kind of weird how this movie and Iron Man 2 go out of their way to make it harder for the title characters to join the Avengers. I'm almost expecting Captain America to stay in WWII and die of old age in his movie.

[David Walton]

Yeah I would love to see more down with Asgard and the Nine Realms in Thor 2. I do think they should try to do more location shooting. And some LOTR style model work for Asgard.

I hope Thor 2 comes about quickly.


I read this [spoiler filled] article about the ending (http://www.badassdigest.com/2011/05/07/why-thor-has-the-wrong-ending).

I think it makes some valid points. The movie would have been stronger if Thor got stuck on Earth. Thors sacrifice should have been giving up a chance to go home versus leaving Jane behind. Like the article points out it just leaves him in a similar place where he started the movie. I think being stranded on earth would help him grow as a person.

Well, Thor getting stuck in Asgard essentially means there's no one on earth who can protect mankind from Loki.


Also I get the feeling however they throw him into the Avengers movie is going to undermine the ending of this movie. Like I said before It's also kind of weird how this movie and Iron Man 2 go out of their way to make it harder for the title characters to join the Avengers. I'm almost expecting Captain America to stay in WWII and die of old age in his movie.

LOL! Wait till you see the Captain America after credits scene where Ant Man gets squashed and Hawkeye goes blind.

The IM2 scene seemed like a way to shoehorn Rhodey into the franchise, since he'll presumably be Fury's choice. He said he wanted an Iron Man, just not Stark. Honestly, I think they should've ended IM2 with Rhodey taking over, and Tony in bad shape. Would've raised the stakes.

[GRANT!]

Really like what? I am not too well versed on Thor jumped on during JMS's run, read the TPB of Ragnarok and have read some assorted Lee/Kirby stuff and thats it (of his solo stuff).

Not trying to insult your GF or say there weren't things like that just curious what I missed that could've been confusing (I wasn't really looking through it with that lens trying to catch stuff)

She's not a comic book or super hero fan so the other Marvel references like Shield, Nick Fury, Jeremy Renner, the cosmic cube stuff was lost on her. She also was asking me questions like "So wait they aren't Gods, they're aliens?" I didn't really give her a Marvel 101 prep so basically the movie to her was about this Viking Superman guy who gets stuck on earth and falls for Natalie Portman. Which it basically is.

She did get the Iron Man reference.

[GRANT!]

I hope Thor 2 comes about quickly.



Well, Thor getting stuck in Asgard essentially means there's no one on earth who can protect mankind from Loki.




True but depending how Thor enters into the movie could undermine the idea of Jane using her scientific know how to go looking for him. But maybe Thor will end up getting stuck on some other realm at the end of the Avengers.




The IM2 scene seemed like a way to shoehorn Rhodey into the franchise, since he'll presumably be Fury's choice. He said he wanted an Iron Man, just not Stark. Honestly, I think they should've ended IM2 with Rhodey taking over, and Tony in bad shape. Would've raised the stakes.

I agree. But apparently Cheadle is not in Avengers. Nor Portman.

[kalorama]

I'm pretty sure in this universe most superheroes will be government agents. Captain America certainly is.

They'll become de facto superheroes when the Avengers are formed, but right now, they're just SHIELD special agents. There's nothing "super" or "heroic" (at least more heroic than any other SHIELD agent) about them.

[Justin D.]

I saw Thor at the Alamo Drafthouse last night. The romantic subplot is unimportant and lackluster, but the overall movie is good if you focus more on the sibling rivalry and father/son dynamics. It's a bit like Iron Man meets Lord of the Rings without as much humor. Also, boom action good yay!

Also, I was thrilled the movie limited the amount of "stranger in a strange land" jokes. Besides the smashing of the coffee cup and demanding a horse, I can't remember many more. That's a trope that really doesn't need to be dragged out.

Hawkeye's cameo seemed completely wasted though other than a few witty lines.

If nothing else, Chris Hemsworth does a great job as Thor and Tom Hiddleston did a great job as Loki. Actually, all of the Asgard characters were pretty great.

[GRANT!]

I saw Thor at the Alamo Drafthouse last night. The romantic subplot is unimportant and lackluster, but the overall movie is good if you focus more on the sibling rivalry and father/son dynamics. It's a bit like Iron Man meets Lord of the Rings without as much humor. Also, boom action good yay!

I think this movie really sold what a super hero could do. I think that's what I really loved about it. You just really feel how powerful he was in the movie.

And if Avengers doesn't give us a Hulk vs. Thor tussle I will be severely disappointed.


Also, I was thrilled the movie limited the amount of "stranger in a strange land" jokes. Besides the smashing of the coffee cup and demanding a horse, I can't remember many more. That's a trope that really doesn't need to be dragged out.

I kind of felt the earth time was too short. Or they did a little more with it. This was an important part of his arc. Like I said before I think it might have been better if he was stranded to earth.


Hawkeye's cameo seemed completely wasted though other than a few witty lines.

I guess it worked if he was just a nameless sniper. It reminds me of the Fury cameos. He just said his lines and didn't really add much to the role. I'm confident Whedon will use him better.


If nothing else, Chris Hemsworth does a great job as Thor and Tom Hiddleston did a great job as Loki. Actually, all of the Asgard characters were pretty great.

Yeah. I think maybe Frigga was the only weak link as far as Asgard was concerned. Heimdell I think was the strongest of the group. Would love to see more of him in future movies. Overall the casting really helped a lot.

[SnowTrooper]

I agree. But apparently Cheadle is not in Avengers. Nor Portman.

Which I think makes zero sense. SHIELD is a government organization, so why wouldnt they use somebody who is already on the payroll? Having War Machine on the team would only make it stronger.

[DeadXMan]

Which I think makes zero sense. SHIELD is a government organization, so why wouldnt they use somebody who is already on the payroll? Having War Machine on the team would only make it stronger.

why have two Iron men?

it throws the balance off.

Plus with Thor raking in 280 million world wide, I can see them green lighting Dr. Strange, runaways and War Machine movies.

and as for Portman, I'm thinking her being Pregnat and almost due by the time filming started put a kabash on her being in the Avengers

[GRANT!]

why have two Iron men?

it throws the balance off.

It does. I feel like War Machine is the defacto Iron Man when Downey says he's done playing the character.


and as for Portman, I'm thinking her being Pregnat and almost due by the time filming started put a kabash on her being in the Avengers

Marion Cotillard is due around the same time and she's in Dark Knight Rises.

And Marvel will probably have reshoots at the last possible minute. so if they wanted her in the movie they can schedule it.

But I think it's less likely for budget reasons.

[Sean Whitmore]

Loved it. Absolutely a worthy addition to Marvel's Movieverse.

My only nitpick, like so many others have stated, was that the romance felt a little too rushed. But that can almost be written off as a bit of an action movie staple.

While watching it, I was a little disappointed that Thor didn't face a real physical challenge after regaining his powers (the Destroyer was completely spanked and I felt Loki only held out as long as he did because Thor was reluctant to fight him). But thinking about it afterward, I realize they kind of went the Superman the Movie route: it's taken as read that there's no physical challenge the hero can't handle with ease, so instead the climax is all about a moral choice. I like that.

As for the Hawkeye scene, yeah it felt out of place, and no it didn't bother me in the least. There's no point in me trying to imagine myself as a viewer who's only interested in the Thor movie in and of itself. Of course I know they're trying to hype the Avengers movie, and goddamn if it didn't work, cause I grow more hyped with every little easter egg and cameo.


SEAN

[Devil_LeonX]

Liked the movie but it could have been better in some aspect like the Earth scenes in particular the Romance, THor falls head over heals For Jane in what Under a Week!??Come on! But anyone can anyone tell what happened the Casket of Ancient Winters or as I like to call it the Ice Cube?The last i see of it is when loki uses it against guardian of the Bridge? Did the Ice giants get it back??and why leave the guardian alive at all!??

[GRANT!]

Loved it. Absolutely a worthy addition to Marvel's Movieverse.

My only nitpick, like so many others have stated, was that the romance felt a little too rushed. But that can almost be written off as a bit of an action movie staple.

Pretty much. I do think Jane had potential as a character and she could have contributed more to the plot then a love interest. And Portman seemed to have fun with the part.


While watching it, I was a little disappointed that Thor didn't face a real physical challenge after regaining his powers (the Destroyer was completely spanked and I felt Loki only held out as long as he did because Thor was reluctant to fight him). But thinking about it afterward, I realize they kind of went the Superman the Movie route: it's taken as read that there's no physical challenge the hero can't handle with ease, so instead the climax is all about a moraal choice. I like that.

Yeah. He's almost too powerful. You got to wonder how he'll be used in The Avengers movies because he can pretty much handle anything tossed his way. But damned if I didn't enjoy the hammer action.


As for the Hawkeye scene, yeah it felt out of place, and no it didn't bother me in the least. There's no point in me trying to imagine myself as a viewer who's only interested in the Thor movie in and of itself. Of course I know they're trying to hype the Avengers movie, and goddamn if it didn't work, cause I grow more hyped with every little easter egg and cameo.

I think if it was just a random sniper people wouldn't complain. I think because it's an Oscar nominated actor and a fan favorite character expectations are built up. It's a nice nod but his inclusion didn't do much for the film.

Anybody want to talk about the lack helmet? Usually I can understand the lack of helmet but they managed to pull it off visually. It would have been nice to see more helmet.


SEAN[/QUOTE]

[DeadXMan]

Now Give us Herc in sequel

[Jared]

While watching it, I was a little disappointed that Thor didn't face a real physical challenge after regaining his powers (the Destroyer was completely spanked and I felt Loki only held out as long as he did because Thor was reluctant to fight him). But thinking about it afterward, I realize they kind of went the Superman the Movie route: it's taken as read that there's no physical challenge the hero can't handle with ease, so instead the climax is all about a moral choice. I like that.


I didn't see it that way at all. It's certainly implied in the first act that Thor and friends are doomed against the horde of frost giants, even after Thor made short work of that four-legged...beast...thing. (Seriously, what do you call that?)

The Destroyer went down a tad easily for me, but I've seen it postulated elsewhere that it was at limited strength since it was running on auto without anyone's soul inhabiting it. That works for me.

I think Loki *should* (and did) give a decent accounting of himself against Thor. He isn't Lex Luthor, with no powers beyond his schemes. He's a formidable and deadly god in his own right. He was raised a son of Odin, he must know how to handle himself. Thor does get injured during the fight, as I recall. Come to think of it, he gets speared in the side...after sacrificing his life for all mankind....hmmm....


And if Avengers doesn't give us a Hulk vs. Thor tussle I will be severely disappointed.


Joss is enough of a fanboy to know he'll be lynched if he doesn't deliver that. And I suspect he *wants* to see it as much as we do. Though it'll probably be Thor and the other Avengers. It's part of the original origin. It's in The Ultimates. It's in the EMH cartoon. The Avengers have to fight Hulk early on, that's just how it works.


SHIELD is a government organization, so why wouldnt they use somebody who is already on the payroll? Having War Machine on the team would only make it stronger.

Simple answer: The Avengers are a SHIELD project, and War Machine is property of the Air Force.

[Sean Whitmore]

Yeah. He's almost too powerful. You got to wonder how he'll be used in The Avengers movies because he can pretty much handle anything tossed his way.

Like you, I am absolutely craving a Thor/Huk brawl.



Anybody want to talk about the lack helmet? Usually I can understand the lack of helmet but they managed to pull it off visually. It would have been nice to see more helmet.

I gotta be honest, after seeing the helmet in that coronation scene, I wasn't sorry it didn't make a return. :smile: I dunno, I like it in the comics, it just didn't look right to me on a real person.


SEAN

[Sean Whitmore]

Now Give us Herc in sequel

That would actually be a perfect way to go. A more humble Thor runs into a fellow prince who's as arrogant as he used to be and who has no real desire to prove himself worthy of a throne.


SEAN

[Jared]

That would actually be a perfect way to go. A more humble Thor runs into a fellow prince who's as arrogant as he used to be and who has no real desire to prove himself worthy of a throne.


And drunk. Herc has to constantly be drunk.

[shamone]

Was a bit disapointed by lack of helmet, could have been used more, certainly when he was reborn. As 4 loki not killing heimdell, it could be one of three reasons. 1. He was not aware of how to get full power from cube. 2. It was to demonstrate strength of heimdell. 3. Loki didnt want to kill an asgardian. He didnt kill any in movie, he wasnt conventional villian, but one who wanted best for his realm and people.

[Sean Whitmore]

And drunk. Herc has to constantly be drunk.

I can't wait for the 7-11 tie-in: mead-flavored Slurpees!


SEAN

[Jared]

3. Loki didnt want to kill an asgardian. He didnt kill any in movie, he wasnt conventional villian, but one who wanted best for his realm and people.

Well, the frost giants he sneaked into Asgard did kill a couple guards. He didn't seem too broken up about it.

[Sean Whitmore]

Plus he was ready to write off Sif and the Warriors Three for the same crime Heimdall committed.


SEAN

[Lord Bravery]

Loki was quite complicated.

He was trying to make Thor's life a misery, he resented him. Yet at the same time he really did love him. And when he said "I'm so sorry" at the SHIELD complex, it seemed like he really did mean it.

I think whilst Loki did truly love his brother, he genuinely did feel that Thor as King would be a disaster. And really, can anyone disagree with him there?

[Sean Whitmore]

They absolutely did a good job giving Loki some depth. At the core of everything was still jealousy, which is appropriate, but some of the rationalizations he came up with were damn convincing.


SEAN

[DarkWarriorBlake]

Well, the frost giants he sneaked into Asgard did kill a couple guards. He didn't seem too broken up about it.

He is practical, he sees tehm as sacrifices to let him attack Jotunheim in retaliation and destroy their enemy completely.

[David Walton]

My only nitpick, like so many others have stated, was that the romance felt a little too rushed. But that can almost be written off as a bit of an action movie staple.

You know, it didn't feel forced to me. It just seemed like Thor validated Jane's life work, and she gave him a purpose when he was lost. He got to see the gods through the lens of humanity.


While watching it, I was a little disappointed that Thor didn't face a real physical challenge after regaining his powers (the Destroyer was completely spanked and I felt Loki only held out as long as he did because Thor was reluctant to fight him). But thinking about it afterward, I realize they kind of went the Superman the Movie route: it's taken as read that there's no physical challenge the hero can't handle with ease, so instead the climax is all about a moral choice. I like that.

Absolutely. The fight with the Destroyer was about two things: Thor's willingness to sacrifice himself for others, and validating Jane's faith in his godhood. Anything beyond that would have undermined the tension from the invasion of Asgard. It's all about Thor and Loki at this point. And how cool is it that Loki inadvertently pushed Thor along the right path by making him think he'd killed Odin?

[David Walton]

They absolutely did a good job giving Loki some depth. At the core of everything was still jealousy, which is appropriate, but some of the rationalizations he came up with were damn convincing.


SEAN

I think we can give a lot of credit to Branagh's Shakespearean influences. Loki is essentially Iago, telling everyone what they want to hear.

[Jmacq1]

They absolutely did a good job giving Loki some depth. At the core of everything was still jealousy, which is appropriate, but some of the rationalizations he came up with were damn convincing.


SEAN

Possibly convincing even to himself. What greater irony than the Lord of Lies being able to lie to himself most of all?

[Jack]

Possibly convincing even to himself. What greater irony than the Lord of Lies being able to lie to himself most of all?
That's not how I see it at all. I really think this Loki started off with good intentions. The development of him and Thor mirrors itself, with Thor as "vain, cruel and greedy" while Loki is mischievous but means well, but by the end Thor has become worthy and Loki has snapped.

[kalorama]

Possibly convincing even to himself. What greater irony than the Lord of Lies being able to lie to himself most of all?

At first I was a bit frustrated with Loki at the end because it seemed like his motivations were a bit all over the place. But after I thought about it I realized that because deception and lies are supposed to be an ingrained part of his makeup, we aren't necessarily really supposed to know what truly motivates him.

[David Walton]

That's not how I see it at all. I really think this Loki started off with good intentions. The development of him and Thor mirrors itself, with Thor as "vain, cruel and greedy" while Loki is mischievous but means well, but by the end Thor has become worthy and Loki has snapped.

I think it's great how they left Loki's original intent open to interpretation. It's hard to say. Starting a war with the Frost Giants hardly qualifies as a harmless prank, so it's difficult to say Loki was ever "well-intentioned." But I do think Loki's realization that he's been deceived his entire life, and the recognition that he's always had one foot in both worlds, really cements his status as the father of lies. He's always been a silver-tongued deceiver, but that revelation sort of frees him to cut loose. If he's a lie, why not be a liar, right?

[Jack]

I think it's great how they left Loki's original intent open to interpretation. It's hard to say. Starting a war with the Frost Giants hardly qualifies as a harmless prank, so it's difficult to say Loki was ever "well-intentioned." But I do think Loki's realization that he's been deceived his entire life, and the recognition that he's always had one foot in both worlds, really cements his status as the father of lies. He's always been a silver-tongued deceiver, but that revelation sort of frees him to cut loose. If he's a lie, why not be a liar, right?
His aim wasn't to start a war, though. He knew that Thor would be a terrible king, and acted to prevent him from ascending to the throne. He made sure that Odin would know they were going to Jotunheim and stop them before they went too far.

[kmeyers]

His aim wasn't to start a war, though. He knew that Thor would be a terrible king, and acted to prevent him from ascending to the throne. He made sure that Odin would know they were going to Jotunheim and stop them before they went too far.

But he's also the one who manipulated Thor into going in the first place, so I don't think his intentions were entirely genuine.

[DarkWarriorBlake]

But he's also the one who manipulated Thor into going in the first place, so I don't think his intentions were entirely genuine.

He manipulated him to prove he wasn't worthy to be king because he was too headstrong. It didn't exactly takea huge amount of effort on Loki's part.

[kmeyers]

He manipulated him to prove he wasn't worthy to be king because he was too headstrong. It didn't exactly takea huge amount of effort on Loki's part.
Very true, but it's really hard to tell what his true motivation for doing that was. You're right, it didnt take much at all, but he still did it knowing Thor would bite.

But was it a power grab because of jealousy towards Thor, or true concern for the fate of Asgard...

[Jack]

I kind of think people are being influenced by existing prejudice against Loki. Movie Loki really isn't the same as comics Loki. He doesn't get anywhere close to that point until after the credits. Even his "evil scheme" was just to protect Asgard from the Frost Giants. In a horrible way, sure, but he still wasn't all the way into supervillain mode by then.

[kmeyers]

I kind of think people are being influenced by existing prejudice against Loki. Movie Loki really isn't the same as comics Loki. He doesn't get anywhere close to that point until after the credits. Even his "evil scheme" was just to protect Asgard from the Frost Giants. In a horrible way, sure, but he still wasn't all the way into supervillain mode by then.

I don't know about that. It seemed to me like Loki had things pretty well planned out from the start(whether his intentions were good or not). It's just that Odin seemed to have it all planned out a little better.

[Ragnorok64]

Any indication on why an Odin sleep that he was believed he may never come out of only lasted like a couple of days. Aside from plot conveniences?

[Monty_Cristo]

He manipulated him to prove he wasn't worthy to be king because he was too headstrong. It didn't exactly takea huge amount of effort on Loki's part.

he had to sneak the frost giants into asgard. that required bypassing Heimdall. it also required tricking the frost giants into breaking the truce. the head guy didn't seem to know that Loki was the one aiding them.

[Monty_Cristo]

That's not how I see it at all. I really think this Loki started off with good intentions. The development of him and Thor mirrors itself, with Thor as "vain, cruel and greedy" while Loki is mischievous but means well, but by the end Thor has become worthy and Loki has snapped.

his stated original intention was to ruin Thor's crowning ceremony. it was a harmless prank, in his mind. his second act was to convince Thor that he was right to seek vengeance on the frost giants. all the while, he intended to alert Odin of this ill-advised attack. problem is that loki's talking out of every side of his mouth. he really is inscrutable.

[tabo61]

The scene where thor and odin have that arguement which is also in the trailer is fantastic. Anthony Hopkins is good as odin. Marvel could do a movie about that character if they could get hopkins to reprise it.

[David Walton]

Any indication on why an Odin sleep that he was believed he may never come out of only lasted like a couple of days. Aside from plot conveniences?

Perhaps Thor's sacrifical act reinvigorated Odin? The implication was that Odin's sleep was unexpectedly brought about by the stress his two sons were bringing on him, so Thor's redemption might have been just what he needed.

[kalorama]

Any indication on why an Odin sleep that he was believed he may never come out of only lasted like a couple of days. Aside from plot conveniences?

Well (A) we don't know how long the Odin sleep is supposed to last and (B) we don't know how long it actually lasted. He could have gone back under after intervening between Thor and Loki and been under for weeks.

[Sean Whitmore]

Perhaps Thor's sacrifical act reinvigorated Odin? The implication was that Odin's sleep was unexpectedly brought about by the stress his two sons were bringing on him, so Thor's redemption might have been just what he needed.

That's what I figured, based on Odin's tears when Thor stood up to the Destroyer.


SEAN

[kmeyers]

That's what I figured, based on Odin's tears when Thor stood up to the Destroyer.


SEAN

Yeah, the Frost Giant King, when he came to kill Odin mentioned how he still saw everything, so I assume he saw Thor's sacrifice, and Thor became worthy of the hammer.

[DarkWarriorBlake]

he had to sneak the frost giants into asgard. that required bypassing Heimdall. it also required tricking the frost giants into breaking the truce. the head guy didn't seem to know that Loki was the one aiding them.

Well yeah there is that act too but the actual convincing Thor to essentially trigger a war out of pride and arrogance was pretty easy. Odin shrugged it off as a rogue element of Frost Giants.

And someone said that everything Odin does has a purpose. It's possible (but unlikely since it is never stated) that he purposely went into the Odin sleep to cause everything that came about, he seemed to know that Thor could prove himself worthy if pushed. As someone else said, he is aware while asleep, of everything that is going on around him, he wept for (I think) Thor's death while asleep. So he could willingly wake up, doesn't explain him being fine afterwards though.

[jessecuster3]

Incredible Hulk had neither an easter egg after the credits or an appearance from Nick Fury. Instead it had Tony Stark show up before the credits.



Incredible Hulk had an Easter Egg at the end of the movie when you see Captain America's shield in ice.

[Conn Seanery]

Loved it when Thor called Agent Coulson "Son of Coul". I'm embarrassed to say I was the only one in the theater that laughed at that.

[StoneGold]

Incredible Hulk had an Easter Egg at the end of the movie when you see Captain America's shield in ice.

Except that never happened. Cut scene. Instead of going to the ice, he was in the cabin controlling the Hulk.

Which honestly, was smart. Don't pen in the Captain America movie with a scene from a film several years earlier.

[StoneGold]

Perhaps Thor's sacrifical act reinvigorated Odin? The implication was that Odin's sleep was unexpectedly brought about by the stress his two sons were bringing on him, so Thor's redemption might have been just what he needed.

Which would have been better, had a line or two of exposition had been dropped about the Odinsleep. If you were not a Thor reader, Odin had a heart attack, and that's it. Which is funny, because in almost every other case, Asgard was the Land of Exposition. One of the few problems I had with the movie.


The others being the complete lack of a theme song for Thor (although that's a similar problem with every other Marvel movie, unless you want to count the brief use of the Lonely Man theme in Incredible Hulk) and that Natalie Portman is a great actress, but she only has one speed -- great actress. And Jane Foster was not a role for a great actress.

[StoneGold]

Well (A) we don't know how long the Odin sleep is supposed to last and (B) we don't know how long it actually lasted. He could have gone back under after intervening between Thor and Loki and been under for weeks.

And then there's the ol' "time works differently between dimensions" bit. Although I guess that's something else that they could have thrown into the exposition.

[Jared]

I loved the "son of Coul" line, too. I didn't hear anyone else get it.

Hemsworth's voice is pretty much exactly how I imagine that Ultimate Thor sounds. But the guy from Earth's Mightiest Heroes is what I've always heard for 616.


Which would have been better, had a line or two of exposition had been dropped about the Odinsleep. If you were not a Thor reader, Odin had a heart attack, and that's it. Which is funny, because in almost every other case, Asgard was the Land of Exposition. One of the few problems I had with the movie.


The others being the complete lack of a theme song for Thor (although that's a similar problem with every other Marvel movie, unless you want to count the brief use of the Lonely Man theme in Incredible Hulk) and that Natalie Portman is a great actress, but she only has one speed -- great actress. And Jane Foster was not a role for a great actress.

Iron Man has a theme, i think, even though it's just a couple power chords being replayed.

I saw a suggestion in a review that I wholeheartedly agree with: as fun as Kat Dennings' Darcy character is, the writers should have left her out and grafted that personality onto Jane Foster. It would have made her memorable.

[Nate Grey]

The others being the complete lack of a theme song for Thor (although that's a similar problem with every other Marvel movie, unless you want to count the brief use of the Lonely Man theme in Incredible Hulk) and that Natalie Portman is a great actress, but she only has one speed -- great actress. And Jane Foster was not a role for a great actress.

But Thor does have a theme song (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kNPTCZHF4cA&feature=mfu_in_order&list=UL). Is it Danny Elfman Spider-Man good, well, that's a matter of opinion (I'm leaning toward "no" but not for lack of trying). But its there. Its a very specific theme in fact that's cues were repeated throughout the movie at certain points.

[Jack]

Incredible Hulk had an Easter Egg at the end of the movie when you see Captain America's shield in ice.
I'm amazed at how many people keep coming up with imaginary easter eggs for a film that didn't have one. I remember specifically that it didn't have one because I thought it would. Coming off Iron Man I was certain that there would be a scene after the credits, and yet there wasn't.

[DarkWarriorBlake]

But Thor does have a theme song (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kNPTCZHF4cA&feature=mfu_in_order&list=UL). Is it Danny Elfman Spider-Man good, well, that's a matter of opinion (I'm leaning toward "no" but not for lack of trying). But its there. Its a very specific theme in fact that's cues were repeated throughout the movie at certain points.

First time in a long time I've heard someone call Danny Elfman's work good and not the same exact song over and over and over again.

And what is with this "Son of Coul" line? What's it a reference to?

[Nate Grey]

First time in a long time I've heard someone call Danny Elfman's work good and not the same exact song over and over and over again.

And what is with this "Son of Coul" line? What's it a reference to?

I'm going off memory here, but it was near the end when Thor was back to full power and addressing Coulson. To Thor, the name is just another way of saying the Son of Coul (like if his name was Simonson he would call him Son of Simon).

[DarkWarriorBlake]

I'm going off memory here, but it was near the end when Thor was back to full power and addressing Coulson. To Thor, the name is just another way of saying the Son of Coul (like if his name was Simonson he would call him Son of Simon).

Well that's what I thought but people are saying it like it has some inside reference to the comics.

Oh wait. Ok I just got it.

Coulson
Coul's Son
Son of Coul

Ok, still not that funny but nice catch.

[Sean Whitmore]

Well that's what I thought but people are saying it like it has some inside reference to the comics.

Oh wait. Ok I just got it.

Coulson
Coul's Son
Son of Coul

Ok, still not that funny but nice catch.

Not quite. Think "Thor Odinson", "Loki Laufeyson"....


SEAN

[DarkWarriorBlake]

Not quite. Think "Thor Odinson", "Loki Laufeyson"....


SEAN

It's a nice catch by the writers to register Coulson's name like that. I just thought he was doing some Asgardian thing referring to people as Son of LASTNAME when I was watching the film.

[StoneGold]

But Thor does have a theme song (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kNPTCZHF4cA&feature=mfu_in_order&list=UL). Is it Danny Elfman Spider-Man good, well, that's a matter of opinion (I'm leaning toward "no" but not for lack of trying). But its there. Its a very specific theme in fact that's cues were repeated throughout the movie at certain points.

Thor, the movie, has a theme song. Thor, the character, doesn't. Basically, can you see them using a variation of the Thor theme song in a Thor cartoon, like they did with Superman and Batman? If not, then no, Thor doesn't have a theme song.

[Nate Grey]

Thor, the movie, has a theme song. Thor, the character, doesn't. Basically, can you see them using a variation of the Thor theme song in a Thor cartoon, like they did with Superman and Batman? If not, then no, Thor doesn't have a theme song.

Yes, I can. Its definitive enough that it could be reworked like in the examples you mentioned.

[Ronin1108]

thor does so have a theme!!! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gUaFttw_qVM

[Ragnorok64]

*why can't we delete erroneous posts?*

[StoneGold]

Yes, I can. Its definitive enough that it could be reworked like in the examples you mentioned.

You are a lying contrary bastard!!!!


But seriously, it's all just random violin stuff. Fine for atmospheric, but nothing that announces the presence of Thor, God of Thunder.

[Nate Grey]

You are a lying contrary bastard!!!!


But seriously, it's all just random violin stuff. Fine for atmospheric, but nothing that announces the presence of Thor, God of Thunder.

Well that's why I compared it to Danny Elfman's Spider-Man theme. I think that is ultimately better, and while Doyle's theme isn't any sort of slouch, it doesn't have the same weight. But that could also be me thinking it needed to really compare to Williams' Superman theme. As far as Marvel movies goes, I'd rank this, eh, #3, actually. #2 to me would be Revell's theme for Daredevil.

[StoneGold]

Well that's why I compared it to Danny Elfman's Spider-Man theme. I think that is ultimately better, and while Doyle's theme isn't any sort of slouch, it doesn't have the same weight. But that could also be me thinking it needed to really compare to Williams' Superman theme. As far as Marvel movies goes, I'd rank this, eh, #3, actually. #2 to me would be Revell's theme for Daredevil.

That's what I want though -- something like Williams' Superman, or Elfman's Batman. Something that I actually remember after watching the movie.

The only thing I remember from Daredevil was the Rob Zombie thing where he yelled out the plot of the movie. Granted, I love those songs, but still. I wasn't entirely thrilled with the Batman Begins one either, but at least Batman had a recognizable leitmotif. It was two notes, but it was there.

Basically, I want an 80s soundtrack. You go back to the 80s, there are a ton of theme songs you can whistle. And not just in the big budget stuff, either. There's some great lower-budget soundtrack stuff, like Delta Force, or Masters of the Universe, where the theme is more memorable than the movie.

But the Thor one... I can't imagine a kid putting on a Thor costume and singing the theme song.

[StoneGold]

Something interesting that I forgot to mention -- the beginning has the exact same plot structure as the first Iron Man. Big accident scene where the hero looks dead, followed by flashback to how he got to that point, followed by picking up from there in abbreviated form.


It veers from there, I'm not saying the movie is the same as Iron Man, just that the first 20 minutes or so uses the same basic plot structure.



Also, the Warriors Three were incredible, but I think they gave Fandral some of Hogun's lines because he couldn't be grim enough through the accent. The part where he was chastising Volstagg for eating? That's a Hogun line, not Fandral.

[Sean Whitmore]

Also, the Warriors Three were incredible, but I think they gave Fandral some of Hogun's lines because he couldn't be grim enough through the accent. The part where he was chastising Volstagg for eating? That's a Hogun line, not Fandral.

Hogun was a little less grim than I like, now you mention it.


SEAN

[Duy]

Something interesting that I forgot to mention -- the beginning has the exact same plot structure as the first Iron Man. Big accident scene where the hero looks dead, followed by flashback to how he got to that point, followed by picking up from there in abbreviated form.


It veers from there, I'm not saying the movie is the same as Iron Man, just that the first 20 minutes or so uses the same basic plot structure.


If I were writing the script, I would have done the same thing just as a passive-aggressive measure.

It would have been so easy to get Thor wrong, so unless I knew exactly how awesome the first Asgard scenes were (very), I would have wanted to make sure the audience knows for a fact that (1) there will be a more grounded sequence on earth, and (2) Natalie Portman is in this movie.

[StoneGold]

If I were writing the script, I would have done the same thing just as a passive-aggressive measure.

It would have been so easy to get Thor wrong, so unless I knew exactly how awesome the first Asgard scenes were (very), I would have wanted to make sure the audience knows for a fact that (1) there will be a more grounded sequence on earth, and (2) Natalie Portman is in this movie.

There's the Star Wars way. Luke doesn't get introduced until like 20 minutes into the movie.

[StoneGold]

Hogun was a little less grim than I like, now you mention it.


SEAN

He's probably too obvious a choice, but I'm going to randomly say Daniel Dae Kim could have been more Asian and grim at the same time.

And I thought I was going to not completely like Ray Stevenson in the fat suit, but he totally pulled off Volstagg. And the truth is, Brian Blessed is too old.

[Nate Grey]

That's what I want though -- something like Williams' Superman, or Elfman's Batman. Something that I actually remember after watching the movie.

The only thing I remember from Daredevil was the Rob Zombie thing where he yelled out the plot of the movie. Granted, I love those songs, but still. I wasn't entirely thrilled with the Batman Begins one either, but at least Batman had a recognizable leitmotif. It was two notes, but it was there.

Basically, I want an 80s soundtrack. You go back to the 80s, there are a ton of theme songs you can whistle. And not just in the big budget stuff, either. There's some great lower-budget soundtrack stuff, like Delta Force, or Masters of the Universe, where the theme is more memorable than the movie.

But the Thor one... I can't imagine a kid putting on a Thor costume and singing the theme song.

See, I thought you were talking about theme as in the actual score, not any sort of song. With talking about Williams and then Zombie I got the impression you're conflating the two.

The thing is, not every theme (as in score) can be like Williams, that's why I mentioned it in passing as an unrealistic expectation, at least on my part. And as good as Elfman's theme for Batman is even it is not as endearing as Superman's. You'll get leitmotifs all over the place for that, but Batman has essentially been replaced with hard rock to vaguely gothic sounding. And that's not even bringing in Newton's score (that was more atmospheric than any sort of specific or definitive piece).

Any piece of music, be it catchy and bombastic like Superman's or good but not quite great like Thor's, will be remembered if it's beaten over the head of whomever's watching the cartoon/TV show that has the piece in question. So yeah, make a version of the Thor theme, stick it at on the opening credits and then closing credits of the inevitable cartoon, with leitmotifs throughout the actual program, and it'll be remembered and maybe even hummed by those watching.

[Jmacq1]

While still not reaching the levels of 80's John Williams-esque greatness I would hope for, I would definitely say that Thor had the best score/soundtrack of any of the Marvel Studios films so far, and that main theme works well enough for a leitmotif for Thor. Something they can stick in when he pops up in Avengers to identify him. They've pretty much co-opted "I Am Iron Man" for Iron Man's theme, so they can just go with that since they haven't really got anything else.

I'm holding out high hopes for Alan Silvestri's Captain America score. We'll see....

[Nate Grey]

While still not reaching the levels of 80's John Williams-esque greatness I would hope for, I would definitely say that Thor had the best score/soundtrack of any of the Marvel Studios films so far, and that main theme works well enough for a leitmotif for Thor. Something they can stick in when he pops up in Avengers to identify him. They've pretty much co-opted "I Am Iron Man" for Iron Man's theme, so they can just go with that since they haven't really got anything else.

I'm holding out high hopes for Alan Silvestri's Captain America score. We'll see....

Likewise. Silvestri's no slouch. I look forward to seeing what he does for Captain America's score.

[StoneGold]

See, I thought you were talking about theme as in the actual score, not any sort of song. With talking about Williams and then Zombie I got the impression you're conflating the two.

The thing is, not every theme (as in score) can be like Williams, that's why I mentioned it in passing as an unrealistic expectation, at least on my part. And as good as Elfman's theme for Batman is even it is not as endearing as Superman's. You'll get leitmotifs all over the place for that, but Batman has essentially been replaced with hard rock to vaguely gothic sounding. And that's not even bringing in Newton's score (that was more atmospheric than any sort of specific or definitive piece).

Any piece of music, be it catchy and bombastic like Superman's or good but not quite great like Thor's, will be remembered if it's beaten over the head of whomever's watching the cartoon/TV show that has the piece in question. So yeah, make a version of the Thor theme, stick it at on the opening credits and then closing credits of the inevitable cartoon, with leitmotifs throughout the actual program, and it'll be remembered and maybe even hummed by those watching.

Problem is the movie has the same name as the character, which I tried to explain later. Thor the movie has a theme. Thor the character, not so much. I don't really even need anything good, just something that gets repeated enough that it becomes a shorthand for the character.

I'm holding out hope for Silvestri as well, although I still wish it was Giacchino. He actually knows how to give a character a theme. Totally did it for Star Trek, Incredibles... Silvestri has done it before, with stuff like Delta Force, Back to the Future, even a little with the A-Team, even if I would have preferred he just used the damned A-Team theme more.

[Nate Grey]

Problem is the movie has the same name as the character, which I tried to explain later. Thor the movie has a theme. Thor the character, not so much. I don't really even need anything good, just something that gets repeated enough that it becomes a shorthand for the character.

I understood what you meant, so maybe I didn't explain myself that well. I'll try again: Thor, the character, has to start somewhere. Yes he's appeared in cartoons and the embarrassing Trial of the Incredible Hulk TV Movie, but thanks to the success of this movie, people will take notice like never before. The movie score theme, can become the character's theme. Its the same thing that happened in the previous examples you mentioned. Williams score, for instance, was for the movie but quickly became associated with the character so much that people think of Superman when they hear it, not Superman 1978 by Richard Donner. And if its beaten over people's heads enough (like in the example I gave about a potential cartoon show), over time, in fact a short time, people will associate it more with the character than the movie.


I'm holding out hope for Silvestri as well, although I still wish it was Giacchino. He actually knows how to give a character a theme. Totally did it for Star Trek, Incredibles... Silvestri has done it before, with stuff like Delta Force, Back to the Future, even a little with the A-Team, even if I would have preferred he just used the damned A-Team theme more.

Giacchino does mostly TV work, you think this could haven his time to shine as far as movies? I'm honestly asking, I'm not that familiar with his work.

I would have said Brian Tyler, but he feels kind of hit or miss these days.

[StoneGold]

Giacchino does mostly TV work, you think this could haven his time to shine as far as movies? I'm honestly asking, I'm not that familiar with his work.


You haven't paid much attention to his career. Incredibles, Sky High, Mission Impossible III, Ratatouille, Cloverfield, Star Trek, Speed Racer, Up, Land of the Lost, Let Me In, he's got Super 8 coming out this year, I've left out some stuff because I don't feel like typing them all...

And the real reason I wanted him to do Cap, apart from his ability to give a character a leitmotif, the dude OWNED the WWII video game music market for a bunch of years there. Medal of Honor, Call of Duty, Secret Weapons of the Luftwaffe... some great, period-appropriate orchestral stuff.


As to the stuff I cut out of your quote, there's still not enough in the Thor theme to do it. You need like a couple of beats, wrap it all up in just that, then repeat throughout the movie. That doesn't exist in Thor. Or Iron Man. Or Incredible Hulk.

[Nate Grey]

You haven't paid much attention to his career. Incredibles, Sky High, Mission Impossible III, Ratatouille, Cloverfield, Star Trek, Speed Racer, Up, Land of the Lost, Let Me In, he's got Super 8 coming out this year, I've left out some stuff because I don't feel like typing them all...

Yeah admittedly I did a cursory glance at IMDB.com. :redface: Now I've seen the first three you've mentioned and Speed Racer, but that's it (gave up on Lost after the first season). Nothing about those works stick out that says "I HAVE to get this score!" (and yes I do think that when watching movies) like it does for Newton, Williams, Horner, Silvestri, Elfman, Revell, or even Beltrami (I think he's come a long way). But I'll keep an open mind to anything else I hear from him.


And the real reason I wanted him to do Cap, apart from his ability to give a character a leitmotif, the dude OWNED the WWII video game music market for a bunch of years there. Medal of Honor, Call of Duty, Secret Weapons of the Luftwaffe... some great, period-appropriate orchestral stuff.

I'll try and find some Youtube clips of those themes (I don't own any of those games).


As to the stuff I cut out of your quote, there's still not enough in the Thor theme to do it. You need like a couple of beats, wrap it all up in just that, then repeat throughout the movie. That doesn't exist in Thor. Or Iron Man. Or Incredible Hulk.

Well I guess that's where we differ then (though I agree about Iron Man and Incredible Hulk) cause I think there is enough there to turn into a theme for the character. The leitmotif here (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GGCjE7Q0FzE&feature=mfu_in_order&list=UL) at the 38 second mark is enough, and they could easily speed it up or add more beats to it without turning the original work into something else.

[Jared]

I really thought Thor had a Theme. You can hear variations on the same set of notes (Ok, I'm really bad at talking music) in numerous tracks. Thor's music seems to often be associated with Asgard in the movie, but that's fine. I distinctly recall thinking "I like this score" during Thor, and I don't think I ever thought that during the other Marvel movies. Hulk *should* have done dramatic variations on "Lonely Man" for when he hulks out, playing those notes like they were in a Godzilla movie. I seem to recall that some commercials actually did that.

I thought Danny Elfman's Spider-Man score kinda sucked. It felt too similar to Batman, which actually was awesome and probably the best thing he's ever done or will do.

Star Trek was brought up earlier. Funny thing is, I didn't like that music at all, except for the Narada's theme, and the take on the TOS intro at the end. All the rest paled in comparison to the music from the trailers.


I'm amazed at how many people keep coming up with imaginary easter eggs for a film that didn't have one. I remember specifically that it didn't have one because I thought it would. Coming off Iron Man I was certain that there would be a scene after the credits, and yet there wasn't.

The scene with Tony *would* have gone after the credits, the director just decided not to make people wait. The ice scene (with something that might be Cap if you zoom in) is a deleted scene in the special edition. My basic edition DVD didn't have the scene, which annoyed me.

[Jmacq1]

I really thought Thor had a Theme. You can hear variations on the same set of notes (Ok, I'm really bad at talking music) in numerous tracks. Thor's music seems to often be associated with Asgard in the movie, but that's fine. I distinctly recall thinking "I like this score" during Thor, and I don't think I ever thought that during the other Marvel movies. Hulk *should* have done dramatic variations on "Lonely Man" for when he hulks out, playing those notes like they were in a Godzilla movie. I seem to recall that some commercials actually did that.


I think the best track for Thor's potential leitmotif is "Thor Kills the Destroyer."

And yes, in fact I recall being very surprised by the score while in the theater because early reviews had hinted that it was just as bland and unnoticeable as the rest of Marvel Studios' offerings so far. I ended up buying it after I saw the movie.

I know we all want John Williams to revert back to his late 70s/early 80's self and write all these scores himself, but that kind of "instant classic" score just doesn't seem to happen these days. I think the last time we saw any glimmer of that would've been Williams' early work on the Harry Potter franchise...or possibly Howard Shore's Lord of the Rings scores.

[jessecuster3]

Except that never happened. Cut scene. Instead of going to the ice, he was in the cabin controlling the Hulk.

Which honestly, was smart. Don't pen in the Captain America movie with a scene from a film several years earlier.

Its on the DVD and Blu-ray!




I'm amazed at how many people keep coming up with imaginary easter eggs for a film that didn't have one. I remember specifically that it didn't have one because I thought it would. Coming off Iron Man I was certain that there would be a scene after the credits, and yet there wasn't.

Its not imaginary, I saw it as part of the movie, on Blu-ray.