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Umbrax

10-20-2005, 12:26 AM

Moonstar's history is a bit lengthly and has about as many twists as Psylocke's.

She is one of the founding members of the New Mutants. At first her power was to 'pull' someones greatest fears from their mind and create a three-dimensional image of that fear. So if you were afraid of spiders then maybe she would make a giant spider appear. Like the other New Mutants her powers matured and became more advanced. Back then she was called Mirage.

The New Mutants along with the X-men once had an adventure where they went to Asgard. Dani became a Valkyrie, a group of females who would take fallen warriors to Valhalla. From this she gained the ability to 'see' when death was in a person's future as well as a flying horse. She left the New Mutants before they became X-Force. Later she showed up with the ability to cast psychic arrows.

Thats about all I can remember for now. I'm sure there is a lot left out.
Google "Dani Moonstar" I'm sure there is a lot of info out there.

Deathstroke

10-20-2005, 04:17 AM

One of my favorite characters.

fishtaco

10-20-2005, 05:06 AM

One of my favorite characters.And mine. I heart Dani Moonstar.

crystalline green

10-20-2005, 08:01 AM

I third that. I want her on an X-team (and not in the background as a advisor) so badly.

gforce99

10-20-2005, 09:29 AM

Besides her and Forge, were there any other Native American X-mutants?

Arvandor

10-20-2005, 09:32 AM

She's shagging (having sex with) Xian, isn't she?

Karl J. Barnes

10-20-2005, 09:33 AM

She's shagging (having sex with) Xian, isn't she?

No, but she does seemed interested in that F.B.I. guy(can't remember his name).

The Mirrorball Man

10-20-2005, 09:38 AM

Besides her and Forge, were there any other Native American X-mutants?
Yeah, Thunderbird and Warpath. Native Americans aren't really the most under-represented ethnicity in the X-Universe.

jemini169

10-20-2005, 09:38 AM

Other Native American X-Mutants - The Proudstar brothers. Thunderbird I and Thunderbird II

Off the top of my head...
Jemini169

The Lucky One

10-20-2005, 09:40 AM

She's shagging (having sex with) Xian, isn't she?

No. They were shown sitting arm-in-arm in one issue of UXM (#444), as a sign of their close friendship, but Claremont later clarified that there was nothing more to it than that. While Shan is a lesbian, Dani is at least bisexual, if not completely straight- she's been interested in Roberto, Jimmy Proudstar, and the aforementioned FBI agent in the past.

-D

jadegiant77

10-20-2005, 01:30 PM

Dani rocks. Hope that stupid WWW(Worldwide Wanda Warp) Doesn't take her powers away. BTW has she ever learned to make her illusions solid? That was the ultimate potential of her powers unlocked by Professor X.

The Lucky One

10-20-2005, 01:52 PM

BTW has she ever learned to make her illusions solid? That was the ultimate potential of her powers unlocked by Professor X.

Sort of. In New Mutants annual #4, she was zapped by one of the High Evolutionary's machines, which amped up her powers and allowed her to make one illusion at a time solid; however, as soon as that person's fear or desire changed, it would disappear. (For instance, if she wanted a sports car more than anything in the world, she would have one... but if she then got a craving for a slice of chocolate cake instead, POOF! goes the car.) She had that until the New Mutants visited Asgard the second time, then when she reappeared in X-Force, it was gone without explanation and hasn't been referenced since.

-D

jadegiant77

10-20-2005, 01:59 PM

LAME!

Ihate when they do crap like that.

fishtaco

10-20-2005, 02:50 PM

LAME!

Ihate when they do crap like that.What? what crap?

YoungG03

10-21-2005, 02:09 PM

Oh so that horse is from Asgard? They just be flyin around...Why she turn bad anyway? Was Rusty and Skids big characters in the New Mutants storyline....

Oh and can Syrin and Banshee fly witout screaming?

The Lucky One

10-21-2005, 02:20 PM

Oh so that horse is from Asgard? They just be flyin around...Why she turn bad anyway?

She was working undercover for SHIELD. Yes, Brightwind was from Asgard; Dani acquired him when she first became a valkyrie, in the New Mutants Special Edition. When she went undercover, he turned into Darkwind under unrevealed circumstances, but was later slain by Reignfire.

Was Rusty and Skids big characters in the New Mutants storyline....

They joined the New Mutants right after Inferno (along with Rictor and Boom Boom) but were gone by the time Cable took over. They were later captured and brainwashed by the MLF, then healed by Magneto and became Acolytes, then Rusty died when Holocaust destroyed Avalon. Skids survived and is currently attending college and helping out with X-Corps.

Oh and can Syrin and Banshee fly witout screaming?

No. The only difference between them is that Siryn can talk while screaming at the same time, while Banshee cannot; but neither can fly without using their scream.

-D

YoungG03

10-22-2005, 10:10 AM

One more question what was Rusty and Skids powers? They seem improatnt and al to Cannon and BoomBoom....Where Boom at anyway? Any has her power strengthen

The Fury

10-22-2005, 11:10 AM

One more question what was Rusty and Skids powers? They seem improatnt and al to Cannon and BoomBoom....Where Boom at anyway? Any has her power strengthen
Quick answers:

Rusty powers: Producing flames.

Skids powers Force field generation

Location of BoomBoom: I don't know at the moment but she will be showing up int Ellis' new series NextWave in January (i think).

streator

10-22-2005, 10:04 PM

Quick answers:

Rusty powers: Producing flames.

Skids powers Force field generation

Location of BoomBoom: I don't know at the moment but she will be showing up int Ellis' new series NextWave in January (i think).
yeah, meltdown is appearing in nextwave. from what i've gathered, she will be portrayed as a "paris hilton-type" character more so than any other previous incarnation. regardless, i am looking forward to nextwave.
in regards to moonstar: she needs to become an x-man. i would genuinely like to see her be a full-time member of one of the squads.

fishtaco

10-23-2005, 06:57 AM

One more question what was Rusty and Skids powers? They seem improatnt and al to Cannon and BoomBoom....Where Boom at anyway? Any has her power strengthenSkids has a frictionless forcefield. Rusty burns whatever he touches. See X-Factor (1st Series) 16 for the best of Rusty and Skids.

dazzler_slave

10-25-2005, 02:15 PM

Sort of. In New Mutants annual #4, she was zapped by one of the High Evolutionary's machines, which amped up her powers and allowed her to make one illusion at a time solid; however, as soon as that person's fear or desire changed, it would disappear. (For instance, if she wanted a sports car more than anything in the world, she would have one... but if she then got a craving for a slice of chocolate cake instead, POOF! goes the car.) She had that until the New Mutants visited Asgard the second time, then when she reappeared in X-Force, it was gone without explanation and hasn't been referenced since.

-D

The illusion didn't change on a whim like that. She had one solid illusion at a time that she could create, and it was based on one's greatest desire. However, the illusion remained solid indefinitely until she used it to create another wish. That is why whenever she wasn't using it, she wished for a little spear necklace she wore around her neck. The time she made her car disappear was when she first got the power and didn't realize she could only create one illusion. After that, she never ran into that problem again.

dazzler_slave

10-25-2005, 02:19 PM

Dani became a Valkyrie, a group of females who would take fallen warriors to Valhalla. From this she gained the ability to 'see' when death was in a person's future as well as a flying horse.
She could see when a flying horse was in a person's future? That's a handy power! Bet she used that one a lot! :p

I'm kidding, I'm kidding! **ducks Umbrax's keyboard** :D

Chris Lang

07-13-2008, 02:47 PM

No. They were shown sitting arm-in-arm in one issue of UXM (#444), as a sign of their close friendship, but Claremont later clarified that there was nothing more to it than that. While Shan is a lesbian, Dani is at least bisexual, if not completely straight- she's been interested in Roberto, Jimmy Proudstar, and the aforementioned FBI agent in the past.

-D

Thank you.

To be honest, I've been wondering about Dani myself recently, after some people speculated she might be a lesbian. Not wanting to spend hours trying to read each and every appearance of Dani even though she's one of my favorite New Mutants, I wasn't sure where to ask. I couldn't recall her actually being romantically involved with anyone, or even flirting.

In early issues of the 'classic' New Mutants, she did have some jealous thoughts when Roberto was flattering other ladies while in her presence ... but that's about as far as it went. Of course, I'd appreciate any other insights.

Anon_me

07-13-2008, 02:54 PM

Justin K.

07-13-2008, 05:00 PM

I third that. I want her on an X-team (and not in the background as a advisor) so badly.

fourth to that as well. love Dani :smile:

jarrod

07-13-2008, 05:04 PM

Dani was Carey's backup if he didn't get to use Rogue iirc... I kinda wonder how his run might've shifted had he gotten her instead?

chemicalx

07-13-2008, 07:53 PM

Don't really think Dani's a lesbian.

She had a kind of flirtatious thing with Warpath back in the NM/Hellions days, I think. And most recently, Agent Pierce from the FBI; I liked him, I wonder what happened to them. Oh, and there was that one scene where Illyana and her were mooning over a couple of guys they met at one of Lila's parties (this was the issue where Birdbrain joined them).

she also had a thing with fourarm in the x-force days and there were hints of her and Jimmy again just before warren ellis took over...

early on she had a little unspoken thing for roberto as well

I don't see dani as a lesbian at all just very flirtatious when she isnt kicking ass

I would have loved for Dani to be in Carey's X-men I think she is continously overlooked in x-cannon and that really needs to change.

Anon_me

07-13-2008, 08:35 PM

A mini about her time in Asgard as a valkryie would be nice.

chemicalx

07-14-2008, 06:17 AM

A mini about her time in Asgard as a valkryie would be nice.

That actually would be good because i dont think they ever really covered what caused her fall from Asgard.

I would also like to see how they reconcile her Asgardian ties with those of her Native American culture.

pryde15

07-14-2008, 08:41 AM

They should put her on a team already, enough with the teen books. I WANT DANI.

Anyways, to the person who said sahgging and then went ahead and explained what it meant. You totally ruined that line.

Indigo Al

07-14-2008, 10:33 AM

That actually would be good because i dont think they ever really covered what caused her fall from Asgard.

I would also like to see how they reconcile her Asgardian ties with those of her Native American culture.

Claremont, in his own weird mishmashed "Unglaublich By The White Wolf!" way, did it well.

chemicalx

07-14-2008, 10:37 AM

Claremont, in his own weird mishmashed "Unglaublich By The White Wolf!" way, did it well.

yeah he had a pretty good handle on her but the idea was just never really developed also why she is so tied to death the way she is. Its almost phoenix like but in reverse i guess.

Which team do you guys think dani would fit best on? From what i have seen so far i would want her either with Astonishing or X-factor. I think she could fit the tone of X-factor well but as a character she would mesh better with the astonishing crew almost as a kity pride replacement... but then i guess thats what the have armor for...

pryde15

07-14-2008, 10:40 AM

yeah he had a pretty good handle on her but the idea was just never really developed also why she is so tied to death the way she is. Its almost phoenix like but in reverse i guess.

Which team do you guys think dani would fit best on? From what i have seen so far i would want her either with Astonishing or X-factor. I think she could fit the tone of X-factor well but as a character she would mesh better with the astonishing crew almost as a kity pride replacement... but then i guess thats what the have armor for...

I think she would probably be better in Uncanny. I mean she could fill Kitty's role, but I love the cast as it is right now.

chemicalx

07-14-2008, 10:51 AM

I think she would probably be better in Uncanny. I mean she could fill Kitty's role, but I love the cast as it is right now.

I guess it would depend on how they use her. Dani has Shield training, Asguardian warriar training, as well as her x-training and self defense from before new mutants.

I think if she got her powers back she should be setup with energy arrows and the fear/desire illusions. I would like her death powers explored as well but after everything else is developed first.

Chris Lang

07-14-2008, 11:07 AM

A mini about her time in Asgard as a valkryie would be nice.

As you can tell by my Danielle Moonstar avatar, I would probably have no objections to that. :)

Deathstroke

07-14-2008, 11:09 AM

jarrod

07-14-2008, 11:09 AM

jarrod

07-14-2008, 11:10 AM

I want a Dani+Skids+Lockheed: Agents of SHIELD book!

chemicalx

07-14-2008, 11:26 AM

I've wanted Dani in X-Factor since it started, but with Rahne gone I don't really see much pull for her character wise, plus it might get too crowded having her, Sy and Monet all being awesome leading ladies at the same time. Plus she'd have to hand Madrox his ass and take leadership. :wink:

I dunno actually... she's almost Storm's younger surrogate, so Astonishing's out. X-Force is obviously out, though if the Valkyrie death powers resurfaced that might prove an interesting placement. Uncanny and Young are really the only options left... unless you'd want her neXiled?! :frown:

hmm i suppose thinking of it like that you are right Uncanny is the best place for her. Dani wouldnt join X-force even with her death powers. She quit X-force during Ellis's run because she didnt like what they were doing.

I still think she would be a good fit for Astonishing but it would be a bit much to have both her and storm. Poor Emma wouldnt stand a chance.

Omegastorm

07-14-2008, 12:57 PM

I'd love more Dani Moonstar, but I really liked her in the teacher's role and as guardian to Josh when his parents signed him over.

The Asgard miniseries seems like a cool idea, but that would be a little late in coming don't you think?

I agree with everything you said. I would love to see a Storm and Dani mini. They were always close. But I would also love a solo mini for my favorite new mutant.

o

Indigo Al

07-14-2008, 01:05 PM

Well, with Asgard over in St Olaf, Minnesota, you could have a story involving Dani, once events in Thor get more settled.

chemicalx

07-14-2008, 01:36 PM

What stories were highlight storm and dani relationship? I dont think i ever really got to see that... I recall storm interactiing with almost every other original new mutant but dani actually.

It makes sense though they have a lot in common up to and including their Asguardian connections...

MuhollandDriver

07-14-2008, 05:04 PM

Well, with Asgard over in St Olaf, Minnesota, you could have a story involving Dani, once events in Thor get more settled.

And Rose could leave her Florida condo and visit!

Anon_me

07-14-2008, 05:10 PM

And Rose could leave her Florida condo and visit!

Maybe Blanche will come along and help Dani get in touch with her sexual side.

MuhollandDriver

07-14-2008, 05:43 PM

And then Dorothy comes and rips off Cyclop's eyemask.

It is her yutz of an ex-husband, Stan!

Anon_me

07-14-2008, 05:56 PM

Where's Sophia in all this then?

chemicalx

07-15-2008, 08:11 AM

Sophia is hiding from Dani for fear that she may be the one to finally cart her off to the land of the dead...

Indigo Al

07-15-2008, 08:17 AM

Sophia is hiding from Dani for fear that she may be the one to finally cart her off to the land of the dead...

Are you kidding? Death would run from an encounter with Sophia, weeping like a little baby.

chemicalx

07-15-2008, 08:20 AM

Are you kidding? Death would run from an encounter with Sophia, weeping like a little baby.

hmm maybe she could be Dani's new mentor and show her the secrets of defying death...

joemagnum611

07-15-2008, 10:44 AM

Other Native American X-Mutants - The Proudstar brothers. Thunderbird I and Thunderbird II

Off the top of my head...
Jemini169

I thought Thunderbird 2 was from India not really Native American

Peter F.

07-15-2008, 10:49 AM

I thought Thunderbird 2 was from India not really Native American

I'm pretty sure James Proudstar AKA Warpath used the Thunderbird name for a little while before the third one Neal Sharra did.

chemicalx

07-15-2008, 12:10 PM

I'm pretty sure James Proudstar AKA Warpath used the Thunderbird name for a little while before the third one Neal Sharra did.

Yup

Neal is TB III

I always thought Dani and James would have been really good together. Or at least made good friends they are very much alike in that they are head strong and prone to hit first and ask questions later.

The more i think about it the more I want Moonstar on X-force even though she really doesnt fit there...

Psycwave

07-15-2008, 12:53 PM

http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll105/Bedlam_2008/Moonstar.jpg

pryde15

07-15-2008, 12:55 PM

http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll105/Bedlam_2008/Moonstar.jpg

I love that picture, even if it was from XM:TE

chemicalx

07-15-2008, 12:58 PM

http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll105/Bedlam_2008/Moonstar.jpg

I never read the end what was Dani's role in it?

pryde15

07-15-2008, 01:01 PM

I never read the end what was Dani's role in it?

She was in a coma, she woke up or something and was killed. And then she came back as the new Hela.

chemicalx

07-15-2008, 01:14 PM

pryde15

07-15-2008, 01:16 PM

WOW maybe i should pick this up... i was avoiding it for more than a few reasons...

I always find it interesting that in almost every alternate reality (AOA being the major exception) Dani becomes the Avatar of Death...She really is a scary *****

No one ever really wrote Dani as threatening in the 616 universe. She was always tough and likeable, but never a character that scared the shit out of other characters. That was Illyana's place.

Which is odd seeing how her powers are to basically bring you greatest fear to life. I would love to see her written as a more menacing character. At some point.

chemicalx

07-15-2008, 01:21 PM

No one ever really wrote Dani as threatening in the 616 universe. She was always tough and likeable, but never a character that scared the shit out of other characters. That was Illyana's place.

Which is odd seeing how her powers are to basically bring you greatest fear to life. I would love to see her written as a more menacing character. At some point.

I think the reason for this was that most times Dani's powers took a back seat to the story. She wasn't really the powerhouse that Karma was and they didnt really play her up to be the future of mutant kind like they did Sam. Dani was the focal point early on in NM but after the Demon Bear saga she really fell of the radar.

There are exceptions to all this of course but usually whenever Dani's powers were given focus it was because a writer was trying to change them and it usually led to bad development for the character...

pryde15

07-15-2008, 01:23 PM

I think the reason for this was that most times Dani's powers took a back seat to the story. She wasn't really the powerhouse that Karma was and they didnt really play her up to be the future of mutant kind like they did Sam. Dani was the focal point early on in NM but after the Demon Bear saga she really fell of the radar.

There are exceptions to all this of course but usually whenever Dani's powers were given focus it was because a writer was trying to change them and it usually led to bad development for the character...

This is all very true. I wish they would give her back the fear/desire powers. It was simple and something that could easily lead to some good character development. Giving characters new powers was always so confusing, because it almost never works, and it just makes it so confusing.

chemicalx

07-15-2008, 01:29 PM

This is all very true. I wish they would give her back the fear/desire powers. It was simple and something that could easily lead to some good character development. Giving characters new powers was always so confusing, because it almost never works, and it just makes it so confusing.

I think powerwise Dani should get fear/desire power and the psi arrows. The arrows don't add much I know but they were cool visually to me when she came back as Moonstar.

The only problem with this powerset is that people will complain that she is too much like a watered down mastermind or something like that...

pryde15

07-15-2008, 01:37 PM

I think powerwise Dani should get fear/desire power and the psi arrows. The arrows don't add much I know but they were cool visually to me when she came back as Moonstar.

The only problem with this powerset is that people will complain that she is too much like a watered down mastermind or something like that...

The Psi-Arrows never really interested me. Dani was never one to rely greatly on her powers, she used other tactics to get the job done. Her using weapons like knives & arrows; whilst having the fear/desire powers would be best.

chemicalx

07-15-2008, 01:42 PM

The Psi-Arrows never really interested me. Dani was never one to rely greatly on her powers, she used other tactics to get the job done. Her using weapons like knives & arrows; whilst having the fear/desire powers would be best.

agreed i guess i just really liked the way the arrows looked... she really doesnt need them...

pryde15

07-15-2008, 01:49 PM

agreed i guess i just really liked the way the arrows looked... she really doesnt need them...

They really did look cool. But they did nothing for the character.

Am I the only one who loved her Graduation uniform?

Nevets F

07-15-2008, 01:58 PM

When has it been shown that Dani and Storm were close? I am really intersted in seeing that.

Indigo Al

07-15-2008, 01:58 PM

I think the reason for this was that most times Dani's powers took a back seat to the story. She wasn't really the powerhouse that Karma was and they didnt really play her up to be the future of mutant kind like they did Sam. Dani was the focal point early on in NM but after the Demon Bear saga she really fell of the radar.

There are exceptions to all this of course but usually whenever Dani's powers were given focus it was because a writer was trying to change them and it usually led to bad development for the character...

I would disagree in that Claremont really positioned her as the tough tactical leader of the team, and did give her a lot of focus (particularly with the Valkyrie transformation). In fact, though Sam was "co-leader", he was always outranked and outshined by Dani.

When Claremont left the books, I think no one else knew what to do with her, and figured Sam was a more bankable character.

Anon_me

07-15-2008, 02:36 PM

Am I the only one who loved her Graduation uniform?

It looked ok but the wide sleeves and hotpants bottom didn't really jive too well with me.

I never read the end what was Dani's role in it?

She was captured by the maurauders and sedated for years. Then she tried to warn Rhane about the events that were unfolding but kept getting gassed. Eventually, Hela appeared and told her that to truly be free, she had to embrace her mystic heritage (or something like that), and then Sinister killed her but she was reborn as uber valkryie and destroyed Sinister's prison.

pryde15

07-15-2008, 02:40 PM

It looked ok but the wide sleeves and hotpants bottom didn't really jive too well with me.

She was captured by the maurauders and sedated for years. Then she tried to warn Rhane about the events that were unfolding but kept getting gassed. Eventually, Hela appeared and told her that to truly be free, she had to embrace her mystic heritage (or something like that), and then Sinister killed her but she was reborn as uber valkryie and destroyed Sinister's prison.

Yeah the sleeves needed to be reworked. and the hotpants were ok, depending on who drew them.

chemicalx

07-15-2008, 04:08 PM

They really did look cool. But they did nothing for the character.

Am I the only one who loved her Graduation uniform?

I think the arrows were used in the beginning to mask who she was. When she returned in X-force as Moonstar we werent sure it was her because of the mask and crazy outfit... I loved her look back then even if it was a bit out there.

Her graduation outfit was cool but i liked Magik's the best.

When has it been shown that Dani and Storm were close? I am really intersted in seeing that.

Me too actually!!! I can't recall them ever interacting but it would seem like storm would be a natural mentor for Dani. Much like Logan/Scott for SAM.

I would disagree in that Claremont really positioned her as the tough tactical leader of the team, and did give her a lot of focus (particularly with the Valkyrie transformation). In fact, though Sam was "co-leader", he was always outranked and outshined by Dani.

When Claremont left the books, I think no one else knew what to do with her, and figured Sam was a more bankable character.

I agree but again the time between Dani's Valkyrie story and the Demon bear was pretty wide gap. Dani was without question the leader of the team but she just got less and less focus as the book went on until she was ultimately shipped off to limbo (by way of Asguard, until her return in X-force)

She was captured by the maurauders and sedated for years. Then she tried to warn Rhane about the events that were unfolding but kept getting gassed. Eventually, Hela appeared and told her that to truly be free, she had to embrace her mystic heritage (or something like that), and then Sinister killed her but she was reborn as uber valkryie and destroyed Sinister's prison.

I wonder what it would take for a writer to follow up on Dani's Asguardian ties... i really could see her Valkyrie powers flairing up again if she were allowed to explore the non-mutant marvel universe...

Nevets F

07-15-2008, 04:46 PM

Yeah, I Dani and Storm would be interesting...but for the life of me I can not even remember them interacting much at all.

pryde15

07-15-2008, 04:48 PM

I don't remember them interacting.

The only thing that comes close is how Dani took care of Ororo's garden while she was away fighting Brood.

Waterlily

07-15-2008, 05:04 PM

They really did look cool. But they did nothing for the character.

Am I the only one who loved her Graduation uniform?

Do you have a pic or a link?

The first book I read that had her in it was X-Force during the mid 90's. She shows up as an undercover agent for SHIELD, I thought she looked hot in that storyline.

pryde15

07-15-2008, 05:08 PM

Psycwave

07-15-2008, 05:10 PM

Do you have a pic or a link?

The first book I read that had her in it was X-Force during the mid 90's. She shows up as an undercover agent for SHIELD, I thought she looked hot in that storyline.

A few Moonstar outfits
Basic first costume
http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll105/Bedlam_2008/aaa-4.jpg

Valkyrie
http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll105/Bedlam_2008/aaa-3.jpg

1st Graduation
http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll105/Bedlam_2008/ab-13.jpg

2nd Graduation
http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll105/Bedlam_2008/aaaaa-1.jpg

pryde15

07-15-2008, 05:11 PM

The 2nd Graduation costume could've been great with some alterations.

Psycwave

07-15-2008, 05:17 PM

More Dani costumes
Unddercover in MLF
http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll105/Bedlam_2008/aaaa-1.jpg

Still in MLF
http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll105/Bedlam_2008/ad-11.jpg

X-force(Who wears short shorts!!!)
http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll105/Bedlam_2008/ab-14.jpg

Teaching at the House of X
http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll105/Bedlam_2008/aa-14.jpg

Waterlily

07-15-2008, 05:35 PM

Oh noes! Only 2 of your pics showed up on my comp. So I stopped being lazy and googled Dani.

I still like the hotpants and vest look the best but this,

http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh105/mydogisfaust/DanielleMoonstarMirage.jpg

I love the "B****, what?" posture

Psycwave

07-15-2008, 05:40 PM

Psycwave

07-15-2008, 05:53 PM

I personally prefer Dani's Valkyrie outfit and the 1st Grad cosume to all the rest....

pryde15

07-15-2008, 05:53 PM

I personally prefer Dani's Valkyrie outfit and the 1st Grad cosume to all the rest....

We do agree on something.

:eek:

Anon_me

07-15-2008, 05:54 PM

I like the 2nd MLF costume, but with symmetrical boots.

Nevets F

07-15-2008, 06:57 PM

I have always LOVED the first MLF outfit.

chemicalx

07-15-2008, 07:27 PM

I think for me its Valkyrie then 1st MLF then 1st graduation...

On another note... why did Dani need the bow for psi-arrows???

Indigo Al

07-15-2008, 07:35 PM

Yep, Valkyrie outfit for sure

chemicalx

07-16-2008, 05:29 AM

her x-force outfit was kinda cool very simple... me thinks dani has a thing for showing a little leg LOL

Do you guys think she could make it as an Avenger?

Indigo Al

07-16-2008, 05:30 AM

her x-force outfit was kinda cool very simple... me thinks dani has a thing for showing a little leg LOL

Do you guys think she could make it as an Avenger?

It would be tough in that she's very tied to X-books, but given her experience and leadership capabilities, she'd be a great Avenger.

Deathstroke

07-16-2008, 05:36 AM

A few Moonstar outfits
Basic first costume
http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll105/Bedlam_2008/aaa-4.jpg

The classic is alway the best.

Valkyrie
http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll105/Bedlam_2008/aaa-3.jpg

If I could ever have a girlfriend who wore this costume, I'd marry her on the spot.

Deathstroke

07-16-2008, 05:37 AM

More Dani costumes
Unddercover in MLF
http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll105/Bedlam_2008/aaaa-1.jpg

Still in MLF
http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll105/Bedlam_2008/ad-11.jpg

X-force(Who wears short shorts!!!)
http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll105/Bedlam_2008/ab-14.jpg

All damn hot outfits...

Man, if she was real....TOTALLY hounded by the paparazzi.

Bronze Badger

07-16-2008, 05:38 AM

Does anyone have a link to a picture of all the New Mutants first graduation uniforms?

k.i.n.g.

07-16-2008, 07:08 AM

http://i34.tinypic.com/osa61u.jpg

chemicalx

07-16-2008, 07:27 AM

i hated the art in those x-force issues but dani + thudnerbird rocked...

I thinks he could make it as an avenger but i would be afraid that they would mess with her powers again to make it so she could hang with the big boys...

Although she might do well with the Luke Cage team...

Indigo Al

07-16-2008, 07:53 AM

I thinks he could make it as an avenger but i would be afraid that they would mess with her powers again to make it so she could hang with the big boys...

I was ambivalent about the upgrade of her powers to be able to make solid forms. Probably mostly because it happened during a run of New Mutants that i hated.

The Cool Thatguy

07-16-2008, 08:00 AM

I was ambivalent about the upgrade of her powers to be able to make solid forms. Probably mostly because it happened during a run of New Mutants that i hated.

Had to happen, IMO. Everyone else was gaining better control of their powers while Dani's stayed stagnate. It should have been better defined, though.

MuhollandDriver

07-16-2008, 08:01 AM

I was ambivalent about the upgrade of her powers to be able to make solid forms. Probably mostly because it happened during a run of New Mutants that i hated.

New Mutants post-inferno was just painful for me.

Illyana reduced to a child so the X-Termintators could populate the team.

The rest, of course, is (in)famous history with the first run of X-Force.

Nevets F

07-16-2008, 09:33 AM

Deus ex Chris

07-16-2008, 09:46 AM

Illyana >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> X-Terminators

chemicalx

07-16-2008, 09:46 AM

Had to happen, IMO. Everyone else was gaining better control of their powers while Dani's stayed stagnate. It should have been better defined, though.

I agree. Everyone was getting upgraded at that point. I think the solid illusion thing would have been good if executed better. I wouldnt be disappointed if they gave it back to her with some limits

New Mutants post-inferno was just painful for me.

Illyana reduced to a child so the X-Termintators could populate the team.

The rest, of course, is (in)famous history with the first run of X-Force.

It really was like reading a completely differnet book after inferno...

Chris Lang

07-16-2008, 01:50 PM

I was ambivalent about the upgrade of her powers to be able to make solid forms. Probably mostly because it happened during a run of New Mutants that i hated.

As you can probably tell from certain posts I've posted elsewhere, I liked the original form of Dani's illusion powers better than the 'solid forms' version, too.

It seems later writers felt the same way, as her powers eventually did revert to their original concept.

Chris Lang

07-16-2008, 01:56 PM

New Mutants post-inferno was just painful for me.

Illyana reduced to a child so the X-Termintators could populate the team.

The rest, of course, is (in)famous history with the first run of X-Force.

I agree. Everyone was getting upgraded at that point. I think the solid illusion thing would have been good if executed better. I wouldnt be disappointed if they gave it back to her with some limits

It really was like reading a completely differnet book after inferno...

I agree with you on all points. In my personal canon, New Mutants basically ended after 'Inferno'. The conclusion to the Illyana saga was the final issue. Cable who?

However, I did kind of like John Francis Moore's X-Force after the team split from Cable and went on a road trip. And I DID like the 'New Mutants: The Next Generation' thing Nunzio Defillips and Christina Weir did (don't get me started on how M-Day just ruined it). But as far as 'New Mutants: The Original Series' goes, I tend to see 'Inferno' as where it ended.

As for Dani's powers, I sort of liked the original version better. I didn't actively dislike the solid illusions, but I think there should have been some more defined limits besides the 'only one solid illusion at a time' thing.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't Dani already have a sort of 'power upgrade' when she became a Valkyrie? (Though it's not really an upgrade -- it's more of a seperate power alltogether).

Chris Lang

07-16-2008, 02:09 PM

All damn hot outfits...

Man, if she was real....TOTALLY hounded by the paparazzi.

I can easily imagine it...

Paparazzi 1: "Is it true you're using your mutant powers to trick the other photographers into taking fake photos?"

Paparazzi 2: "Is it true one of your New Mutant teammates set loose all those demons during 'Inferno'?"

Paparazzi 3: "What's the story between you and Rahne? You know what I'm talking about!"

Paparazzi 4: "How did you get your mutant powers back after you lost them on M-Day?"

Those are just a few of the questions they'd ask her, one after the other, not giving her a chance to answer. She'd have to come up with a really good strategy to get them to go away.

But I don't think Dani has ever really been that big a celebrity in the Marvel Universe. She and her teammates (in just about any team she's been a part of) have gone around and helped save the day, but I can't recall them ever getting any credit for it by the media.

Indigo Al

07-16-2008, 02:20 PM

Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't Dani already have a sort of 'power upgrade' when she became a Valkyrie? (Though it's not really an upgrade -- it's more of a seperate power alltogether).

Yeah, apart from relying on Brightwind, it was the Death ability, and that's it. It would have made more sense if she'd gotten Asgardian weaponry (even if she didn't get super-strength).

Chris Lang

07-16-2008, 02:27 PM

Yeah, apart from relying on Brightwind, it was the Death ability, and that's it. It would have made more sense if she'd gotten Asgardian weaponry (even if she didn't get super-strength).

I'm not entirely sure where she got the 'psych arrows' or whatever. I think they were variants of the solid illusions, but I'm not sure.

Indigo Al

07-16-2008, 02:31 PM

I'm not entirely sure where she got the 'psych arrows' or whatever. I think they were variants of the solid illusions, but I'm not sure.

They felt a bit 'tokenistic'/stereotypical at first, but it seemed like they worked like Psylocke's psychic knife.

jarrod

07-16-2008, 02:47 PM

Illyana >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> X-Terminators
True, but Rictor.

Actually I kinda love Skids and Tab too. Don't miss Rusty though, he was lame.

MuhollandDriver

07-16-2008, 02:54 PM

Illyana >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> X-Terminators

Thank You.

The run ended for me around that time also. i was a young teen then :). When X-Force and the double-team started, i quit reading. i didn't return until House of M.

Looking through a lot of the material between those times, i do not think i missed out on much. Over a decades worth of not much....yikes! i adore what i've read of Grant's run.

As for those X-Terminators....i really like Rictor, mainly due to X-Factor. Skid's as a Double (Triple?) agent is much improved over being the female half of the mutant Atlantic Starr. Boom Boom always got under my skin. i enjoy her in Nextwave...tho i am not sure i am sposed to be laughing along with her!

i miss Artie.

chemicalx

07-16-2008, 03:11 PM

As you can probably tell from certain posts I've posted elsewhere, I liked the original form of Dani's illusion powers better than the 'solid forms' version, too.

It seems later writers felt the same way, as her powers eventually did revert to their original concept.

I think the problem here was the same as before i.e., the writers didn't know what to do with her powers so they just took away the powers all together...

Regarding her Asguardian abilities yes it was really just death sense and a stronger connection with animals through her connection to brightwind. i thin there was supposed to be more but they never really followed up on the mechanics of it all. The psi arrows could have been a last vestige of her asguardian abilities since she didnt get them until after her fall.

Maybe they could restore Dani's powers or give her a whole new set based on her mistical/Asguardian abilities so she would have super strength/durability, death sense and psi arrows. I think that would be a really good mix for her.

Push You Down

07-16-2008, 04:49 PM

Don't miss Rusty though, he was lame.

Rusty was awesome. He was a young Cyclops which none of the junior teams ever really had.
I was really pissed when Holocaust killed him.

I wish an Exiles writer would bring in an alt- version of him and put him on the team.

chemicalx

07-16-2008, 06:50 PM

Rusty was awesome. He was a young Cyclops which none of the junior teams ever really had.
I was really pissed when Holocaust killed him.

I wish an Exiles writer would bring in an alt- version of him and put him on the team.

I disagree Sam was very much the young cyclopse of the new mutants. Even so much as to start out as a geeky awkward teen that grew into a confident leader.

Dani was like young Storm who had increadable leadership skill from the very beginning.

Karma was also a very confident leader but she didnt have a lot of spotlight

Leogam

07-16-2008, 08:09 PM

How about having Dani just being able to comunicate with the dead like on the show with Patricia Arquette "The Medium" she could join X-Factor Investigations & help solve crimes, but to tell you the truth if she ended up never having powers again I would be fine with that cause i like her character & her powers have been messed around too many times to keep track & turned me off as a reader. It's always best to stay simplistic when it comes to characters, this way you dont have to do retcons, power switches & such just keep it basic

Rachel Grey

07-17-2008, 08:07 AM

I'd like to see her and Rahne reunite.

chemicalx

07-17-2008, 11:38 AM

I'd like to see her and Rahne reunite.

i think that would be good as well i think with everything that is happening in X-force Rahne could use a visit from her best friend

Push You Down

07-17-2008, 04:06 PM

I disagree Sam was very much the young cyclopse of the new mutants. Even so much as to start out as a geeky awkward teen that grew into a confident leader.

You may be right. I just never recall Cyclops being written as an 'awww shucks' kid like Cannonball was. Cyclops always seemed to be written as stoic leader type with maybe internal doubts grafted on later. Rusty seemed to be more of that type where Cannonball grew into being a leader. Cyke and Rusty were always there.

Anon_me

07-17-2008, 04:35 PM

They felt a bit 'tokenistic'/stereotypical at first, but it seemed like they worked like Psylocke's psychic knife.

I believe that is how they worked (shock to the system via overload of psi-energy or some such). She even generated a psychic shank once when Pandemonia enscorcelled X-Force, and tried to shock Warpath free of the mind control. And she still had her illusion powers when she had her psychic arrows.

chemicalx

07-18-2008, 05:23 AM

I believe that is how they worked (shock to the system via overload of psi-energy or some such). She even generated a psychic shank once when Pandemonia enscorcelled X-Force, and tried to shock Warpath free of the mind control. And she still had her illusion powers when she had her psychic arrows.

they went through a few different descriptions...the first time she hit Sam with one gave him an intense viewing of his greatest fear. (Still a great reintroduction issue)

Later they became just like betsy's psi-knife

Indigo Al

07-18-2008, 05:35 AM

How about having Dani just being able to comunicate with the dead like on the show with Patricia Arquette "The Medium" she could join X-Factor Investigations & help solve crimes

I like this idea a lot.

chemicalx

07-18-2008, 06:03 AM

I think having her talk to the dead would be good but i wouldnt want that to be her only ability... It would be a great catalyst for a story though. Maybe she could work with magik in a book similar to the one nightcrawler had dealing with mystical stuff.

The Lucky One

07-18-2008, 06:07 AM

I disagree Sam was very much the young cyclopse of the new mutants. Even so much as to start out as a geeky awkward teen that grew into a confident leader.

Dani was like young Storm who had increadable leadership skill from the very beginning.

Interesting comparison. Personally, I always saw Dani and Sam as more of a reversal of the Scott/Jean dynamic. Sam was the down-home, lovable guy who nobody didn't like and who led through his warm, caring approach; Dani was more of a "born warrior" who was relatively friendly, but much more prone to pissing people off or getting overly bossy at times. However, together they balanced each other out and made for great co-leaders. I miss that dynamic.

-D

Jack Flash

07-18-2008, 06:47 AM

True, but Rictor.

Actually I kinda love Skids and Tab too. Don't miss Rusty though, he was lame.

Rusty was not lame! :mad:

chemicalx

07-18-2008, 07:51 AM

I didnt hate rusty he just didnt do anything for me... I really didnt care for any of the xterminator characters. I much perfered the new mutants... or what was left of them at that point.

Indigo Al

07-18-2008, 08:00 AM

chemicalx

07-18-2008, 08:12 AM

Back in the NM (the good ones) days, Sam was more of a "big brother" leader/mentor. Dani was the "war chief".

actually i would say that dani was both the big sister and the war chief. She had a special relationship with almost all the members Rahne, Magik, Amara, Bobby.

Sam was only really close to Bobby...

jarrod

07-18-2008, 09:20 AM

Interesting comparison. Personally, I always saw Dani and Sam as more of a reversal of the Scott/Jean dynamic. Sam was the down-home, lovable guy who nobody didn't like and who led through his warm, caring approach; Dani was more of a "born warrior" who was relatively friendly, but much more prone to pissing people off or getting overly bossy at times. However, together they balanced each other out and made for great co-leaders. I miss that dynamic.

-D
I kind of agree, though since then the roles have been essentially reversed (now Sam's the commanding field strategist and Dani's the emotional denmother). There were also shades of Storm in Dani imo, not just due to the superficial exotic/mystic/lesbian overtones, but with the whole "Born warrior" angle... she was really more Storm than Cyclops imo.

Kitty is Emma. Seriously.

Waterlily

07-18-2008, 09:23 AM

She needs to combine the "den mother" and born "warrior aspects" together. Also, she needs to be wearing the short, shorts while doing so.

chemicalx

07-18-2008, 09:25 AM

would it be hard for Dani to step up as a field leader again? She missed out on a lot of training but i think she could still do it...

chemicalx

08-05-2008, 01:57 PM

What do you guys think should happen with Dani now?

If she can't get her powers back would it be cool if she got her cosmic powers back? I kinda liked those even though she got kinda phoenixy towards the end... she did got one on one with magneto and that was cool.

The other idea i had was for her to get full on Asguardian abilities, death sense, some form of super strength/durability, a new winged horse, and maybe some random energy arrows... The powers would be mystic instead of psychic and allow her to sap life energy to enhance her powers or restore it for healing abilities...

I like both ideas but i think the second would allow her to do more h2h fighting which dani likes to do...

Thoughts?

jarrod

08-05-2008, 02:01 PM

Dani should get some Valkyire ability back. Death sense & enhanced physicality make sense, but maybe something more intense... like controllable death touch?

chemicalx

08-05-2008, 02:04 PM

Dani should get some Valkyire ability back. Death sense & enhanced physicality make sense, but maybe something more intense... like controllable death touch?

The only reason i say no to death touch is because Dani would never really use it. Thats why i stuck with the lifeglow drain power enhancer/healing ability. That seems more like stuff she would use

Muggs

08-05-2008, 02:12 PM

Dani should get some Valkyire ability back. Death sense & enhanced physicality make sense, but maybe something more intense... like controllable death touch?

I just want her to get a permanent spot on the team. It's way overdue.

jarrod

08-05-2008, 02:17 PM

The only reason i say no to death touch is because Dani would never really use it. Thats why i stuck with the lifeglow drain power enhancer/healing ability. That seems more like stuff she would use
Well, it'd be more of moral dilemma thing. It'd also be something she'd potentially be afraid of, I mean it's pretty brutal, and play perfectly into the Valkyrie mythology.

Dani's tough enough without powers imo, she'd get by anyway and have this as a terrible last resort. Whatever the case though, I would like her abilities to be rooted in death primarily (no more psyhic weaponry or illusions).

chemicalx

08-05-2008, 02:36 PM

Dani's tough enough without powers imo, she'd get by anyway and have this as a terrible last resort. Whatever the case though, I would like her abilities to be rooted in death primarily (no more psyhic weaponry or illusions).

I agree with all of this she is tough enough without her abilities but i think i just want her to get something after all the crap she has gone through recently. It could be a be careful what you wish for type thing too. I could see her being desperate to get something and going to Asguard or being confronted by new uber sexy female loki and having full on Valkyire/Death powers as a result...

I also agree that she should stay with the death theme since it keeps coming up for her in every variation of her abilities. My fear is that if she ventured out into Valkyire powers she would be trapped in Thor mythology limbo and never get the spotlight again...

La Fea

08-05-2008, 02:41 PM

I'd rather Dani remain powerless.

I don't really like her mutant powers and she otherwise has really flip flopped between abilities over the years. I'd much prefer her carry around a sharpened stick and kick ass with her head, shoulders, knees, and toes...knees and toes.

chemicalx

08-05-2008, 02:58 PM

I always seem to lose interest in characters without powers. Other than the likes of black widow and ... well just natasha i just cant seem to keep the interest.

I like that dani can fight but i would love for her to have some powers...

tangentman

08-05-2008, 03:12 PM

actually i would say that dani was both the big sister and the war chief. She had a special relationship with almost all the members Rahne, Magik, Amara, Bobby.

Sam was only really close to Bobby...

Eh, I don't know about that...the kids all looked up to Sam. Bobby was his best friend; Rahne EXTREMELY pined away for Sam; Illyana, Shan, Doug, 'Locke, & Amara liked him well enough; Dani trusted Sam as a confidante & co-leader.

Of the original New Mutants, Dani & Illyana were my favorites.

In fact, Dani was pretty much the core character of the earliest runs. Several stories focused on Dani--the first two issues used Dani as a "point of view" character to introduce readers to the school. The subplot with the Brood focused on Dani's illusions being usurped by the Brood Queen. Viper kidnapped Dani, forcing the kids into the confrontation that ended with Karma's "death". When the White Queen kidnapped Kitty, it was ultimately Dani & Illyana who defied her. Not to mention, the Demon Bear arc!

It really wasn't until Illyana, Doug, and Warlock came along that the focus shifted from her. Amara was the major player in her debut arc--and the issue immediately following--but quickly faded into the background. Dani was a key player, especially when the "Valkyrie" story came to pass. As a natural tactician, there's no denying that SHE was the "Cyclops" of the team. Sam was the "shoulder to cry on"; Dani led the kids in battle.

During this era, I particularly loved the interaction between Dani & Illyana. I think they played off each other in ways not even Kitty managed with her best friend. Personally, I would've liked seeing a subplot where Dani became Kitty's rival for Illyana's friendship. Of all the kids, Dani was the one who knew the most about Illyana.

I HATED seeing Dani hurt by the "House of M" finale. She was one of the alumni I liked seeing back at the mansion. Thankfully, Dan Slott has made good use of Dani, but I hope she'll get her powers back--or some new variant.

Maybe that nifty "Valkyrie" version we saw in "X-MEN: THE END" could happen?

chemicalx

08-05-2008, 03:44 PM

Eh, I don't know about that...the kids all looked up to Sam. Bobby was his best friend; Rahne EXTREMELY pined away for Sam; Illyana, Shan, Doug, 'Locke, & Amara liked him well enough; Dani trusted Sam as a confidante & co-leader.

Agreed my comments were in reference to Sam being seen as the "big brother mentor" type and Dani as only the "war chief". She was the tactition of the group but I think that is because the team looked up to her as the leader more than they did Sam. Who had to grow into his leadership role. Thats why i consider him more the Cyclops and Dani the Storm. She came by it more naturally and he picked it up after years in the field...

During this era, I particularly loved the interaction between Dani & Illyana. I think they played off each other in ways not even Kitty managed with her best friend. Personally, I would've liked seeing a subplot where Dani became Kitty's rival for Illyana's friendship. Of all the kids, Dani was the one who knew the most about Illyana.

Agree again. I think Dani and Illyana had a much stronger bond then what was expressed between Illy and Kitty. They both knew each others secrets. Dani was the first to learn about what Illyana had been put through in limbo and how hard she had to fight the dark side of herself. It would have been cool to play off that since Dani and Kitty had no real love for each other as it was...

I HATED seeing Dani hurt by the "House of M" finale. She was one of the alumni I liked seeing back at the mansion. Thankfully, Dan Slott has made good use of Dani, but I hope she'll get her powers back--or some new variant.

It was more the way it was handled that made me upset. Emma basically took the opportunity to kick Dani while she was down. Plenty of X-men have stayed on without powers but they kick Dani out without so much as a keep in touch. It was downright cold.

I would love for her to get powers like in the end and become a major threat to the X-men or maybe a member of a greater Marvel community as an Avenger along side thor or someone...

jarrod

08-05-2008, 03:50 PM

I agree with all of this she is tough enough without her abilities but i think i just want her to get something after all the crap she has gone through recently. It could be a be careful what you wish for type thing too. I could see her being desperate to get something and going to Asguard or being confronted by new uber sexy female loki and having full on Valkyire/Death powers as a result...

I also agree that she should stay with the death theme since it keeps coming up for her in every variation of her abilities. My fear is that if she ventured out into Valkyire powers she would be trapped in Thor mythology limbo and never get the spotlight again...
Dani seems like she'd manage fine sans powers though... I don't see her as desperate to get them back. I'd like to see Hela call on her specifically though, coinciding with Asgard's re-establishment in the American midwest, she wouldn't really have a choice. Knowing death, fighting death, causing death... there's lots of interesting directions to take it.

I'd still want her firmly in the X-sphere of course, but maybe a YXM/Thor crossover dealing with Dani specifically could be cool?

Shade101

08-05-2008, 03:54 PM

Here ya go Chemmy...

http://i246.photobucket.com/albums/gg116/Dukkus/MirageInked-1.jpg

Enjoy :smile:

chemicalx

08-05-2008, 04:13 PM

I'd still want her firmly in the X-sphere of course, but maybe a YXM/Thor crossover dealing with Dani specifically could be cool?

That would be great!! However i need YX to get a little bet more focus before they try to handle something as complex as Dani + Asguard... it could turn out really bad if its not handled right

Here ya go Chemmy...

Enjoy :smile:

Shade you are now my new internet best friend for the rest of today!!!! Bask in the greatness that is my friendship LOL

AWESOME stuff man really...

tangentman

08-05-2008, 04:58 PM

Agreed my comments were in reference to Sam being seen as the "big brother mentor" type and Dani as only the "war chief". She was the tactitian of the group but I think that is because the team looked up to her as the leader more than they did Sam. Who had to grow into his leadership role. Thats why i consider him more the Cyclops and Dani the Storm. She came by it more naturally and he picked it up after years in the field...

I can see why you'd draw that conclusion. One of my objections would be that Dani's creator, Chris Claremont, stated that he considered Dani the "Cyclops" of the team. The back of different New Mutants' issues included "Professor X's files" on different students and enemies. The Professor himself compared Dani with a young Cyclops.

Agree again. I think Dani and Illyana had a much stronger bond then what was expressed between Illy and Kitty. They both knew each others secrets. Dani was the first to learn about what Illyana had been put through in limbo and how hard she had to fight the dark side of herself. It would have been cool to play off that since Dani and Kitty had no real love for each other as it was...

Kitty honestly earned Dani's contempt with her shoddy treatment of the "X-Babies". During the "Tantrum Years", Kitty acted like a spoiled child when it came to the New Mutants. Frankly, her brattiness should have been incentive to keep Kitty demoted. Yes, she proved herself admirably as an X-Man, but her behavior toward newcomers was downright shitty.

It was more the way it was handled that made me upset. Emma basically took the opportunity to kick Dani while she was down. Plenty of X-men have stayed on without powers but they kick Dani out without so much as a keep in touch. It was downright cold.

Yeah, I definitely read a little shaudenfreude in that scene. I'm an Emma fan, but she WAS cold in that moment. I thought Dani deserved better as well, and shame on Scott for not standing up to Emma.

MuhollandDriver

08-05-2008, 05:20 PM

Reasons like that is why i have not completely embraced Emma Frost...despite me thinking she is good for Cyclops and the team..she adds variety.

Nonetheless...when she is unnecessarily callous....it just leaves a very bad taste in my mouth.

Shade101

08-05-2008, 05:25 PM

Shade you are now my new internet best friend for the rest of today!!!! Bask in the greatness that is my friendship LOL

AWESOME stuff man really...

LOL Just today?!

La Fea

08-05-2008, 05:31 PM

*sigh*

Even your signature is sexy, Shade.

chemicalx

08-05-2008, 06:37 PM

LOL Just today?!

Well see if i gave you unlimited access right from the start you would think i was cheap... now that you have had a taste of the glory that is friendship with Chemicalx you will work that much harder to get it again. *cough*Like by doing a picture of Dani as a Valkyrie *cough*

... man i got to do something about this cold.. :)

Shade101

08-05-2008, 07:32 PM

*sigh*

Even your signature is sexy, Shade.

LOL why thank you. I did it myself. It's the cover of the upcoming Vixen mini series. I made it all dark and fantastic looking. :wink:

Shade101

08-05-2008, 07:33 PM

Well see if i gave you unlimited access right from the start you would think i was cheap... now that you have had a taste of the glory that is friendship with Chemicalx you will work that much harder to get it again. *cough*Like by doing a picture of Dani as a Valkyrie *cough*

... man i got to do something about this cold.. :)

XD

Lol we'll see. I'm not familiar with the Valkyrie costume, so I'll have to look it up.

chemicalx

08-05-2008, 08:07 PM

XD

Lol we'll see. I'm not familiar with the Valkyrie costume, so I'll have to look it up.

:biggrin:

That will earn you at least 2 days maybe even three of my consideration and friendship... you sir (or is it ma'am? honestly i never know on this board...) are truly blessed!!!

May the bright lady keep your days free of stormy weather

Shade101

08-05-2008, 08:16 PM

I'm a sir. :biggrin:

chemicalx

08-05-2008, 08:17 PM

I'm a sir. :biggrin:

Sir, Check! now that that's all cleared up...

Do we know for sure that Dani will be sticking around YX after the first arc?

Peter F.

08-05-2008, 08:24 PM

Sir, Check! now that that's all cleared up...

Do we know for sure that Dani will be sticking around YX after the first arc?

We're not sure yet. Guggenheim stated that he wanted to keep the cast small, so 5 or 6 members, and a mentor I suppose. Only one of the Young X-men is dying, so that leaves 5 members from that team. Plus supposedly Surge and Anole want to join up (but I hope they don't).

We'll find out for sure in September when that issue comes out.