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Mister Mets
10-13-2005, 09:15 PM
I'm just curious as to which creators you guys think should work on All-Star Batman & Robin when Jim Lee's nine issue stint is over ( I don't know whether, or not Frank Miller will stay on the book.)

Some possibilities....
Neal Adams- Perhaps the most popular artist Batman has ever had, and one of the most influential the medium has ever seen. This is one of the few assignments high-profile enough for the man, and he's one of the few creators worthy of following Lee.

Todd Mcfarlane- He's worked on Batman before, still popular as an artist, and needs the money. It is a possibility, although DC would rightly want a lot of lead time with this man.

Grant Morrison- He may decide to become the sole "All-Star" writer, and did write a great Batman in the first JLA trade.

Adam/ Andy Kubert- They're best-selling, well-regarded artists, who recently signed big contracts with DC. Maybe they want to work with Batman.

Brian Bollard- He's an incredible artist, but very very slow. However The Killing Joke is still considered one of the best Batman stories ever, and DC has made statues of the man's work.

Young Avenger
10-13-2005, 09:28 PM
Honestly, I don't see All-Star Batman and Robin contining after Miller leaves. I read somewhere that All-Star Batman & Robin was suppose to be a mini until Miller convinced DC to make it a monthly. If that's true than I don't see the book surviving after Miller is gone.

literally exaggerated
10-13-2005, 10:01 PM
I'd really like to see Mike Mignola take a stab at the character.

Lubichev
10-14-2005, 06:09 AM
Warren Ellis and Michael Oeming

Hellcow
10-14-2005, 07:31 AM
Todd Mcfarlane- He's worked on Batman before, still popular as an artist, and needs the money. It is a possibility, although DC would rightly want a lot of lead time with this man.



Does Todd Mcfarlane really need the money, or did I miss the joke?

I think Mignola would be interesting, but then I would rather see Mignola keep drawing hellboy. He isn't drawing enough Hellboy as it is.

The Xenos
10-14-2005, 07:59 AM
When I saw the title, I instantly thought of O'Neal and Adams.

You already ahve the other famous 70s team of Englehart and Rogers on Dark Detective.

Morrison would be neat. He did the badass James Bond type of Batman really well in his JLA.

I relaly don't know about Ellis. Mignola is too busy with Hellboy.

Ok, how has no one mentioned Dini and Timm?!?!?! I want them on this book yesterday!

I got a couple of Japanese artists I'd like to see, but I don't think they'd be All Star. I'd love to see Kia Asamiya do another Batman book. Plus I'd kill to see Blame! artist Tsutomu Nihei draw Batman and Gotham.

Oh and while I'm not caring for his All Star book, I'm still looking forward to that Holy Terror, Batman book of his.

-Xenos

Mister Mets
10-14-2005, 09:27 AM
Honestly, I don't see All-Star Batman and Robin contining after Miller leaves. I read somewhere that All-Star Batman & Robin was suppose to be a mini until Miller convinced DC to make it a monthly. If that's true than I don't see the book surviving after Miller is gone.

Ending the book is a possibility, but I don't see DC killing this cash cow any more than them ending Superman/ Batman after the first arc.

Does Todd Mcfarlane really need the money, or did I miss the joke?

I think Mignola would be interesting, but then I would rather see Mignola keep drawing hellboy. He isn't drawing enough Hellboy as it is.

He lost 15 million dollars in a lawsuit about an year back. His 3 million dollar investment in a record-breaking baseball didn't pan out, as the record was soon broken.

I'd really like to see Mike Mignola take a stab at the character.

I actually didn't consider him. He'd be great, and would qualify as an all-star given his reputation, and the success of Hellboy.

pennywisdom
10-14-2005, 02:10 PM
Ok, how has no one mentioned Dini and Timm?!?!?! I want them on this book yesterday!
That's almost asking too much.

His 3 million dollar investment in a record-breaking baseball didn't pan out, as the record was soon broken.
He invested in baseballs and Spawn comics. He deserves to be broke. Those are the financial exploits I might have made as a 12 year old. Next you'll tell me his Bazooka Joe venture has failed.

DouglasDanger
10-14-2005, 04:08 PM
I really want a story with Batman set in the 30s or 40s, where he is a pulpy almost Shadow like vigilante. Drawn perhaps by Cooke. Batman would be packing heat and would like someting like he did in Liberty Files.

acagle7
10-15-2005, 07:46 PM
Grant Morrison is my top choice to succeed Miller on this title.

Doom Hammer
10-15-2005, 09:16 PM
Obviously, Grant Morrison is a good choice. He's overall pretty versatile, and I always like his stuff, but...

After Miller/Lee leaves ASB&R, I want to see Miller/Miller onboard. :D

Hellcow
10-16-2005, 04:39 PM
What about LOEB and SALE?

Tadhg
10-16-2005, 04:46 PM
What about LOEB and SALE?

Sale yes, Loeb no.

CURSD BLADE
10-16-2005, 05:09 PM
Sale yes, Loeb no.

Really? Loeb on Batman again would be a dream come true for me. Nobody writers Batman as well as Loeb IMHO.

Personally, I would like to see the team of Geoff Johns and Art Adams on All Star. Both have been rumored to do an All Star related book and what a team they would make.

Bloopinator
10-16-2005, 06:04 PM
My little bro and I

dancj
10-17-2005, 05:18 AM
Sale yes, Loeb no.

I agree.

Sadly, Loeb was my first guess for who they would get on the job. Personally I'd like Grant Morrison or Peter Milligan writing and Alex Toth drawing

The Mirrorball Man
10-17-2005, 05:38 AM
I think the book will stop after the Miller/Lee run, but it may come back one day. In my dreams, it would be written by Tom Fontana and drawn by David Mazzucchelli.

MicroZone
10-17-2005, 06:51 AM
Grant Morrison and rotating artists every 6-12 issues. Single part stories with the occassional two-parter, just like All-Star Superman will be.

Mister Mets
10-18-2005, 04:47 PM
I think the book will stop after the Miller/Lee run, but it may come back one day. In my dreams, it would be written by Tom Fontana and drawn by David Mazzucchelli.

I've never heard of Tom Fontana, but David Mazzucehlli certainly belongs on the short list for possible All-star Batman artists.

What about LOEB and SALE?

Loeb's Marvel exclusive for the next year or so. Although I suppose his exclusive couild end by then. I don't know if team's big enough to be all-star, although their work together is very well regarded.

The Mirrorball Man
10-18-2005, 07:30 PM
I've never heard of Tom Fontana, but David Mazzucehlli certainly belongs on the short list for possible All-star Batman artists.
Tom Fontana is the TV writer/produced who created "Homicide: Life on the Street" and "Oz", among other things.

jaguarshark
10-30-2005, 10:41 PM
I don't know if they're gonna keep printing it after Miller and Lee leave, but if so, in an ideal world where DC had a million bajillion dollars to spend on the creative team, I'd love to see Denny O'Neal, Alan Moore or Paul Dini on writing duties, with Neal Adams, Brian Bolland or Bruce Timm on pencils. Whoever takes over has to both be very well-known, and have a history with Batman, I reckon. Incidentally, can anyone explain to me why Miller has all the characters continually repeating stuff in their inner monologue? Is there some great stylistic rationale here that I'm missing? Its to the point where the next few captions are usually embarassingly predictable, and its really annoying.

jaguarshark
10-30-2005, 10:43 PM
Idiot, yeah... I meant to have Tim Sale at the head of my ideal list of pencillers, and left him out totally. Also, he's not right for All Star, but I agree with everyone who wants to see Breyfogle back on Batman!

Mister Mets
07-06-2006, 08:19 PM
It's interesting that some of the creators we've listed (Kubert, Dini, Morrison) are handling the duties on the regular Batman books, which raises the expectations on the next creators on the All-Star book (and I wouldn't mind it becoming just "All-Star Batman" if that's what the next creators want.)

Tim Sale strikes me as a great choice for the All-Star book, given the quality of his previous Batman work, and how appropriate it would be to have him do an Year One type tale with Miller.

Bruce Timm's work on Mad Love, and the Batman cartoon probably qualifies him too.

David Goyer's work on Batman Begins makes him one of the few writers I'd consider big enough for the project.

Astonishing X-Fan
07-06-2006, 08:51 PM
Dini/Timm, without question

Ballistic27
07-06-2006, 09:12 PM
Mark Millar and Michael Turner.

Hellcow
07-07-2006, 01:41 AM
Or they could just let this title die the death it so deserves and start something else. That would be nice. More respect to other creators too.

BYC
07-07-2006, 01:48 AM
Or they could just let this title die the death it so deserves and start something else. That would be nice. More respect to other creators too.
Heh, launch a new title called "Ultimate All-Stars Batman and Robin the Boy Wonder".

ftw

DWEarhart
07-07-2006, 02:03 AM
Tom Fontana is the TV writer/produced who created "Homicide: Life on the Street" and "Oz", among other things.

I knew I wasn't having fun junk head creations. Tom Fontana WAS supposed to do a Batman book.

http://www.comicbookresources.com/news/newsitem.cgi?id=5604

geordiesteve
07-07-2006, 02:13 AM
Anyone! Just get Miller off the book! It simply can't get any worse.

the goddamn batman
07-07-2006, 04:52 AM
It could get much worse. trust me... ok, don't believe me?


Two words. Liefeld/Winick


Loeb/Sale would be great. Their arc could pick up right after Dark Victory.

I don't think Sale would work with Miller on this book, he's not quite a fan of All Star.

Neal Adams/anybody would be great... Oneil?:D

Dini/Timm would be cool too. Dini's already doing Tech. It's got that feel to it.

I'd love to see Jock do the inside of a Batman comic for once. If it's going to be really late and almost all splash panels, lets get Eisner nominated Jock to do it. Written by...?


Warren Ellis would be interesting, he did that Planetary/Batman crossover that had the time slip and all the most historic verrsions of Batman were coming in and out of of Planetaries reality. That was a fun read. I don't tink Warren wants to write Batman right now though, he just lost Williams to Batman. He didn't seem to happy about it.:rolleyes:


Anyway, I almost don't care if it continues or who comes after. If Miller stays or goes... just please god if it's going to be in production, lets just get it out on time! At this rate we'll never see another creative team.

infoghost
07-07-2006, 05:18 AM
It could get much worse. trust me... ok, don't believe me?


Two words. Liefeld/Winick



I'd take it over the crap Miller is putting out. Winick may not have been great, but he wasn't blatantly disrespectful of oh, everything.

I am pretty sure Miller spends 98% of his day pleasuring himself in 360 mirrored chamber while a hand-picked choir repeatedly sings his name.

I have no idea what he does with the other 2%, but it certainly isn't putting any real thought into this book.

That said, I am not sure they can salvage this one. Let it go.

dancj
07-07-2006, 05:35 AM
I am pretty sure Miller spends 98% of his day pleasuring himself in 360 mirrored chamber while a hand-picked choir repeatedly sings his name.

No - that's John Byrne

Kaos
07-07-2006, 05:56 AM
well i think lee and miller is the best it could be

Puffy Fugu
07-07-2006, 09:54 AM
Obviously, Grant Morrison is a good choice. He's overall pretty versatile, and I always like his stuff, but...

After Miller/Lee leaves ASB&R, I want to see Miller/Miller onboard. :D

I second that :D

Kintales
07-07-2006, 10:56 AM
Alan Moore/ Brian Bolland would be awesome.

Morrison/ Neal Adams would be great as well.

psmoore
07-07-2006, 11:36 AM
I'll put in another vote for Loeb/Sale. Great team I think.

phantom1592
07-07-2006, 02:25 PM
Or they could just let this title die the death it so deserves and start something else. That would be nice. More respect to other creators too.


THat was my first thought too. Let this die, and start over again. I don't want this psycho included into ANY continuity.


Just think to do a book right, all the other writers are going to have build off this foundation..... Nope. Not interested.

Personally I would like ANYONE who could turn batman BACK into what he is meant to be. A HERO. Someone not out to PUNISH the bad guys, but to PROTECT the good ones. First and Foremost a Detective. Someone who uses brains before fists.

Reading this crap makes me miss the kinder gentler Azbats.:eek:

the goddamn batman
07-07-2006, 10:07 PM
I'd take it over the crap Miller is putting out. Winick may not have been great, but he wasn't blatantly disrespectful of oh, everything.


Yeah, only Jason Todd, years of continuity, the only death in the entire DCU that meant anything, Batman in general and Denny Oniel's promise...

I'd rather Miller throw sh!t at the walls out of continuity.:rolleyes:

THat was my first thought too. Let this die, and start over again. I don't want this psycho included into ANY continuity.


Just think to do a book right, all the other writers are going to have build off this foundation..... Nope. Not interested.


No one has to build on anything Miller has done. There is no continuity between creative teams... unless they want to.

Kara Zor El
07-08-2006, 04:23 AM
Alan Moore/ Brian Bolland would be awesome.

Morrison/ Neal Adams would be great as well.

These were mine too. Also Pat Mills.
Bernie Wrightson and Alan Moore could be a good team.

Mister Mets
07-09-2006, 08:05 AM
Or they could just let this title die the death it so deserves and start something else. That would be nice. More respect to other creators too.

The title sells far too well to warrant anything but a new creative team, even if the title becomes just "All-Star Batman."

One aside- I really hope the new Robin costume gets rid of the speedos. Why else would you create a new continuity?

It could get much worse. trust me... ok, don't believe me?


Two words. Liefeld/Winick


Loeb/Sale would be great. Their arc could pick up right after Dark Victory.

I don't think Sale would work with Miller on this book, he's not quite a fan of All Star.

Neal Adams/anybody would be great... Oneil?:D

Dini/Timm would be cool too. Dini's already doing Tech. It's got that feel to it.

I'd love to see Jock do the inside of a Batman comic for once. If it's going to be really late and almost all splash panels, lets get Eisner nominated Jock to do it. Written by...?


Warren Ellis would be interesting, he did that Planetary/Batman crossover that had the time slip and all the most historic verrsions of Batman were coming in and out of of Planetaries reality. That was a fun read. I don't tink Warren wants to write Batman right now though, he just lost Williams to Batman. He didn't seem to happy about it.:rolleyes:


Anyway, I almost don't care if it continues or who comes after. If Miller stays or goes... just please god if it's going to be in production, lets just get it out on time! At this rate we'll never see another creative team.


Loeb's Marvel exclusive, although his exclusive could end by the time Issue 6 comes out.

I was unaware that Sale had problems with the All-Star book. I thought he'd do a good job on the book, because A) he's one of the best Batman artists ever, and B) he's covered the "Year 2" era before.

Jock's a good artist, but just not big enough for this book. Yet.



Personally I would like ANYONE who could turn batman BACK into what he is meant to be. A HERO. Someone not out to PUNISH the bad guys, but to PROTECT the good ones. First and Foremost a Detective. Someone who uses brains before fists.



I thought that's what Batman/ Detective Comics are now doing.

Yeah, only Jason Todd, years of continuity, the only death in the entire DCU that meant anything, Batman in general and Denny Oniel's promise...

I'd rather Miller throw sh!t at the walls out of continuity.:rolleyes:

No one has to build on anything Miller has done. There is no continuity between creative teams... unless they want to.

I thought the death of the Flash meant something. :p

trickster
07-09-2006, 12:26 PM
I'd take it over the crap Miller is putting out. Winick may not have been great, but he wasn't blatantly disrespectful of oh, everything.

I am pretty sure Miller spends 98% of his day pleasuring himself in 360 mirrored chamber while a hand-picked choir repeatedly sings his name.

I have no idea what he does with the other 2%, but it certainly isn't putting any real thought into this book.

That said, I am not sure they can salvage this one. Let it go.

Actually, Winnick would be good. I liked his Red Hood arc. His dialogues are great. "Li, will you shut the hell up? I swear to God it's like trying to run a criminal organization with my mother".

As for the art? Ethan van Sciver or Tony Daniels.

the goddamn batman
07-09-2006, 04:44 PM
I was unaware that Sale had problems with the All-Star book. I thought he'd do a good job on the book, because A) he's one of the best Batman artists ever, and B) he's covered the "Year 2" era before.


Over at Tims forum, when All Star was 2-3 issues in Tim said something to the effect of "it's getting harder everyday to be a Year One fan" Something like that. I think Tims problem is with Millers version of Bats in this book, just, like most others seem to feel.


I think it's great! I can't understand what the big deal is myself.

Solario
07-10-2006, 04:58 PM
Dream team that would never happen? Dan Slott and Paul Pope.

And not Winnick or Loeb. I feel they both often have a tendency to superimpose character traits and behavior that is so unlike the character that it feels like reading a completely different book. But to say something positive... I-eh.. Have heard good things about Winnick's creator owned stuff and Loeb's early work was very good.