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Augie De Blieck Jr.
10-10-2005, 12:38 PM
(Pardon the formatting weirdness. That's how it arrives in e-mail.)
For extra points, point out the factual error in the first paragraph of this press release:
DC COMICS COLLECTS EVERY ALAN MOORE DCU STORY IN ONE VOLUME!
Gathering every DCU tale written by Alan Moore under one cover for the very first time, DC UNIVERSE: THE STORIES OF ALAN MOORE TP features sixteen stories including the never-before-collected BATMAN: THE KILLING JOKE and SUPERMAN: WHATEVER HAPPENED TO THE MAN OF TOMORROW.
Topped with a new cover by Brian Bolland, DC UNIVERSE: THE STORIES OF ALAN MOORE TP features art by Bolland, Dave Gibbons, Kevin O'Neill, Klaus Janson, Jim Baikie, Curt Swan, Rick Veitch, Joe Orlando, John Byrne, Bill Willingham and others, in stories originally published from 1985 - 1988.
The book also includes an excerpt from Moore's proposal for BATMAN: THE
KILLING JOKE, as well as text pieces by Dave Gibbons and Paul Kupperberg.
DC UNIVERSE: THE STORIES OF ALAN MOORE TP includes:
*> SUPERMAN ANNUAL #11: > "> For the Man Who Has Everything> ">
Art and cover: Dave Gibbons
*> DETECTIVE COMICS #549: > "> Night Olympics> "> Part One
Art: Klaus Janson
*> DETECTIVE COMICS #550: > "> Night Olympics> "> Part Two
Art: Klaus Janson
*> GREEN LANTERN #188: > "> Mogo Doesn> '> t Socialize> ">
Art: Dave Gibbons
*> VIGILANTE #17: > "> Father> '> s Day> "> Part One
Cover: Paris Cullins & Rick Magyar
Art: Jim Baikie
*> VIGILANTE #18: > "> Father> '> s Day> "> Part Two
Art and cover: Jim Baikie
*> THE OMEGA MEN #26: > "> Brief Lives> ">
Art: Kevin O> '> Neill
*> THE OMEGA MEN #27: > "> A Man> '> s World> ">
Art: Paris Cullins & Rick Magyar
*> DC COMICS PRESENTS #85: > "> The Jungle Line> ">
Art: Rick Veitch & Al Williamson
Cover: Rick Veitch
*> TALES OF THE GREEN LANTERN CORPS ANNUAL #2: > "> Tygers> >
Artist: Kevin O> '> Neill
*> SUPERMAN #423: > "> Whatever Happened to the Man of Tomorrow> "> Part One
Art: Curt Swan & George Pérez
Cover: Curt Swan & Murphy Anderson
*> ACTION COMICS #583: > "> Whatever Happened to the Man of Tomorrow> "> Part Two
Art: Curt Swan & Kurt Schaffenberger
Cover: Curt Swan & Murphy Anderson
*> SECRET ORIGINS #10: > "> Footsteps> ">
Art: Joe Orlando
Cover: Jim Aparo
*> TALES OF THE GREEN LANTERN CORPS ANNUAL #3: > "> In Blackest Night> ">
Art: Bill Willingham & Terry Austin
*> BATMAN ANNUAL #11: > "> Mortal Clay> ">
Art: George Freeman
Cover: John Byrne
*> BATMAN: THE KILLING JOKE
Art: Brian Bolland
DC UNIVERSE: THE STORIES OF ALAN MOORE TP will be solicited in the November Previews (Volume XV #11) and is scheduled to arrive in stores in January.
Chad Anderson
10-10-2005, 02:32 PM
For extra points, point out the factual error in the first paragraph of this press release:
DC COMICS COLLECTS EVERY ALAN MOORE DCU STORY IN ONE VOLUME!
Gathering every DCU tale written by Alan Moore under one cover for the very first time, DC UNIVERSE: THE STORIES OF ALAN MOORE TP features sixteen stories including the never-before-collected BATMAN: THE KILLING JOKE and SUPERMAN: WHATEVER HAPPENED TO THE MAN OF TOMORROW.
I count two: 1) No Swamp Thing stories, and those were DCU proper for the entirety of Moore's run. 2) Superman: Whatever Happened to the Man of Tomorrow was collected a few years back in its own slim volume.
And I share your dismay at having bought this collection the first time, without those two additional stories, just a couple of years ago.
Augie De Blieck Jr.
10-10-2005, 02:53 PM
I was thinking of the second. I own a copy of a trade called GREATEST SUPERMAN STORIES EVER TOLD that has that Moore Superman title. First saw it in my local library a decade ago, but picked it up at a Waldenbooks or somewhere a couple years back on sale, as I recall... Or maybe it was a comic-on. Gosh, I don't remember anymore...
The SWAMP THING thing I understand, but I'll give them leeway on that. Those are at least collected separately. That's still incredibly iffy with the language used in the press release.
-Augie
kevhines
10-10-2005, 09:14 PM
A lot of those Batman and Green Lantern stories are collected in another TP (that is likely out of print) which was kind of a misc. Alan Moore Trade. None of his big hits (Whatever Happened..., THe Man Who Has Everything..., Killing Joke) but otherwise they are in there...
Augie De Blieck Jr.
10-10-2005, 09:24 PM
That's what I mean when I say I'm sorry I bought the book the first time. This is the same book with a couple of big stories added on. ::sigh:: And that book came out just last year. . .
-Augie
dancj
10-11-2005, 05:42 AM
But assuming you already own The Killing Joke (you do right?) then the new book won't have anything you don't already own
pmpknface
10-11-2005, 07:01 AM
I didn't buy this the 1st time around, but I do have THE KILLING JOKE and WHATEVER HAPPENED TO THE MAN OF TOMORROW. We'll see about this...
I'm more psyched for the 7 SOLDIERS OF VICTORY Vol 1, the next WW trade, the last MAXX volume, and even this looks pretty cool:
SUPERMAN CHRONICLES VOL. 1 TP
Writers: Jerry Siegel
Artist: Joe Shuster
Collects stories from ACTION COMICS #1-13, NEW YORK WORLD ' S FAIR COMICS #1 and SUPERMAN #1
208 pages, $14.99 US
Augie De Blieck Jr.
10-11-2005, 07:06 AM
Dan -- I actually don't have THE KILLING JOKE. I had it at one point in my life. Don't remember what happened. I think I traded it to a friend back in the day when I was younger, had comics friends, and we did trades. Go fig.
I would love to read it again. It's been close to 15 years since I last read it. I imagine I'd bring a more mature reading to it today than I did when I was 14 or so.
-Augie
Goldeneye
10-11-2005, 08:14 AM
I think the Superman story in the "Greatest" tpb is "For the Man Who Has Everything," not "Whatever Happened to the Man of Tomorrow." I'm not sure though. The "WHMT" arc was collected in its own little tpb though.
Augie De Blieck Jr.
10-11-2005, 08:28 AM
Ah, good point. All these titles get confusing after awhile. Plus, I'm getting old and senile quickly.
I still have the recent reprint of the WHTTMOT story, so I'll stick with that. Suddenly, I don't feel so badly about it.
Still, I should just shut up for a while and let the world pass me by before I screw anything else up. Maybe my brain is just overloaded with comics knowledge now, and it's all mixing itself up? Maybe?
-Augie
BronteJD
10-12-2005, 12:20 PM
I didn't buy this the 1st time around, but I do have THE KILLING JOKE and WHATEVER HAPPENED TO THE MAN OF TOMORROW. We'll see about this...
I'm more psyched for the 7 SOLDIERS OF VICTORY Vol 1, the next WW trade, the last MAXX volume, and even this looks pretty cool:
SUPERMAN CHRONICLES VOL. 1 TP
Writers: Jerry Siegel
Artist: Joe Shuster
Collects stories from ACTION COMICS #1-13, NEW YORK WORLD ' S FAIR COMICS #1 and SUPERMAN #1
208 pages, $14.99 US
Hey, Jamie...
Where did you see the solicitation for this stuff?? Specifically, the 7 SOLDIERS OF VICTORY?? Please to share! :)
Patricia
Augie De Blieck Jr.
10-12-2005, 12:41 PM
Short version of the list:
http://www.comicbookresources.com/news/newsitem.cgi?id=6017
Newsarama has the details:
http://www.newsarama.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=45920
-Augie
pmpknface
10-12-2005, 01:03 PM
Our fearless leader beat me to it, but I was very interested to see how the 7 SOLDIERS stuff was gonna be collected. Now we know, a little at a time:
SEVEN SOLDIERS OF VICTORY VOL. 1 TP
Writer: Grant Morrison
Artists: J.H. Williams III, Simone Bianchi, Cameron Stewart, Ryan Sook, Frazer Irving and Mick Gray
Collects SEVEN SOLDIERS OF VICTORY #0, SEVEN SOLDIERS: SHINING KNIGHT #1-2, SEVEN SOLDIERS: GUARDIAN #1-2, SEVEN SOLDIERS: ZATANNA #1-2 and SEVEN SOLDIERS: KLARION THE WITCH BOY #1
kevhines
10-12-2005, 09:07 PM
Our fearless leader beat me to it, but I was very interested to see how the 7 SOLDIERS stuff was gonna be collected. Now we know, a little at a time:
how do we feel about that?
I think I would prefer complete minis in the Trades...with the 2 minis to a trade, but then where do you put the bookends? and how do you match the mini's up? I plan on getting them all, but it will make it hard to read them all. I won't know what order to read them in.
dancj
10-13-2005, 06:42 AM
I don't know how I feel about it. I always planned on getting all of the TPBs, so I just hope they've chosen the format that will give the best reading experience.
Dan
pmpknface
10-13-2005, 06:54 AM
Ugh... this is tough...
Well, if you consider that if we were buying this story in the "traditional" way we'd be reading 3-4-5 mini's at the same time, 1 chapter at a time, for months so getting a few chapters togather isn't THAT bad of a situation.
I bet there is a reason they are all spaced out like that. Like, how DC had all of the IC lead-ins end around the same time because certain things happened that might give something away in another one or something like that. For example they may all lead into the final bookend so ending them at the same time may make sense.
This may be a series you wait until they are ALL published before you dive in and read it. [/END OPTIMISTIC RANT] ;)
De Carabas
10-13-2005, 09:36 AM
I have to confess to being absolutely ignorant of the structure of the 7 Soldiers series. Like Kevin, I would have thought/hoped that DC was going to collect the minis, in their entirety, in one volume. Even if it meant two minis per trade, I thought that would be what we'd get. Now I'm confused. Are the series meant to NOT be read individually, but instead as a larger, inter-connecting story similar to the 90s Infinity War/Crusade?
:confused:
EM
pmpknface
10-13-2005, 09:56 AM
I have to confess to being absolutely ignorant of the structure of the 7 Soldiers series. Like Kevin, I would have thought/hoped that DC was going to collect the minis, in their entirety, in one volume. Even if it meant two minis per trade, I thought that would be what we'd get. Now I'm confused. Are the series meant to NOT be read individually, but instead as a larger, inter-connecting story similar to the 90s Infinity War/Crusade?
:confused:
EM
Ok... it's a little different than ANYTHING we've seen before. Here's an article that describes it. (http://www.newsarama.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=21568) Here's a bit of it:
The idea for this kind of huge ensemble, Robert Altman approach came first, as a development of the kind of long-range connected narratives I'd been experimenting with on The Invisibles and New X-Men in particular. Once I had the seven minis worked out, it occurred to me that DC owned the name Seven Soldiers of Victory and that Seven Soldiers would make a perfect overall title for this project, so that's how it emerged. The team that never meets but fights together.
”It's a 'modular' approach, in the sense that every first issue is a complete origin story with a cliffhanger and ever subsequent issue delivers a stand-alone adventure. You can read any of the books as singles or as 4-part series. If you only want to read Shining Knight, for instance, you'll still get a good 4-part complete story of young Sir Justin in the 21st century, and each book also sets up a potential ongoing series if the character proves popular with readers.
”The fun really starts when you combine all the books like a 30 piece jigsaw to reveal the epic story behind it all, with a cast of hundreds, criss-crossing and affecting one another's lives. I think it adds up to the most intricate and ambitious single superhero story anyone's attempted.
BronteJD
10-13-2005, 10:16 AM
I think I'm actually okay with this approach.
I think.
I mean, if all the minis are MEANT to be read as a larger part of a story, then getting that story ostensibly in "order" would make sense.
Right?
pmpknface
10-13-2005, 11:02 AM
Hey, if the 1st trade doesn't seem worth it I can cut my losses there. However in the meantime I'll continue to "Trust in Morrison."
That should be a pin or a bumper sticker or something... ;)
Maukingbird
10-13-2005, 04:14 PM
Absolutely PSYCHED about the Alan Moore collection, incredibly bummed/frustrated about the 7 Soldiers one.
I've never actually read any of the Alan Moore DCU stories, so to have them all in once collection, including The Killing Joke and the two major Superman stories (which I've always wanted to read but was never able to track down cheaply).
As far as 7 Soldiers though, I was really really hoping the mini's would be collected individually since the only one I cared about was Zatanna (and maybe Dough Mahnke's Frankenstein). So now I have to track down the back issues. :/
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