Captain Britain spotlight @ UXN!!! [Archive] - Comic Book Resources Forums

fishtaco

10-09-2005, 07:21 PM

http://uncannyxmen.net/db/spotlight/showquestion.asp?faq=10&fldAuto=113

It even has the events up to Uncanny X-Men 465 in it. Cool stuff. There was a lot in there I didnt know.

I stil reallyl want to see a Sunspot spotlight...

ibrakeforchinwe

10-09-2005, 07:29 PM

Yipee!!! About time!

streator

10-09-2005, 09:26 PM

i think uxm focused too heavily on braddock's early days.

Grendel0606

10-09-2005, 09:42 PM

i think uxm focused too heavily on braddock's early days.

We did that deliberately, because most people don't have access to many of those UK issues, plus, back then he was in a solo title, meaning many important things centered around HIM, whereas later he was always only part of a larger cast, meaning they didn't.

ibrakeforchinwe

10-09-2005, 11:28 PM

i think uxm focused too heavily on braddock's early days.

Well thats where most of their history is and most of the comics involving them.

Dizzy D

10-10-2005, 03:22 AM

We did that deliberately, because most people don't have access to many of those UK issues, plus, back then he was in a solo title, meaning many important things centered around HIM, whereas later he was always only part of a larger cast, meaning they didn't.

In the costume gallery you could add that the post-Brittanic costume had some upgrades made by Brian like a psi-shield and the ability to project the forcefield as a concussive attack (both seen in Excalibur 100)

The Sword Is Drawn

10-10-2005, 03:23 AM

In the costume gallery you could add that the post-Brittanic costume had some upgrades made by Brian like a psi-shield and the ability to project the forcefield as a concussive attack (both seen in Excalibur 100)

That's the one I have for my avatar.

One minor note on the alternative Captain Britains section. In the first example you state that Captain England speaks in a broad Scottish Dialect.

This is not the case. No self respecting Scotsman would ever go by the name of 'England'. I always read it as a strong Yorkshire accent, but it iscertainly Northern English if not.

Blackcat

10-10-2005, 04:40 AM

I think it's a good and rather complete overview, must have taken ages to make it...!

It always suprises me a bit there are always others who will have comments about the spotlights made. These are people who are so kind to make them and share them with us. We can find all kind of info in there. I think a bit appreciation can not hurt here.

In this spotlight it finally became clear to me wehat the whole Courtney - Saturnyne - Opal Lun Satyr-9 is all about. Yeah I finally get it. Also good and handy to have an overview of the Captain Britain Corps. I really liked it!

SPOILER: And we can be sure Meggan died.

My compliments!!!!

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Beast

10-10-2005, 05:23 AM

That's the one I have for my avatar.

One minor note on the alternative Captain Britains section. In the first example you state that Captain England speaks in a broad Scottish Dialect.

This is not the case. No self respecting Scotsman would ever go by the name of 'England'. I always read it as a strong Yorkshire accent, but it iscertainly Northern English if not.
You're talking about an alternate reality Scottish Captain England. You can't judge him based on the 616 reality. And you especially can't judge him based on your knowledge of Scotsmen in the real world.

The Sword Is Drawn

10-10-2005, 05:52 AM

I recently re-read Moore's time on Captain Britain (Which incidentally still stands up very well 20 years later) in the 2001 tpb, and he's definitely not Scottish. You cannot read those lines in anything other than a Yorkshire/Lancashire accent. If it was intended to be Scottish it would have some Scottish phrases or terms in his speech. But there aren't any. It just doesn't work any other way.

Considering that there have been Welsh and Scottish analogues of the Captain pop up across the years (The Welsh one was Captain Cymru :D for those who have no knowledge of the Welsh/Cymraeg language ) I think the likelihood of Alan Moore intending Captain England being anything other than English to be particularly slim...

Absolutely stonking profile though. Very in-depth, and should fill in the vast majority of gaps that most people in USA have from the UK only books, period.

Grendel0606

10-10-2005, 05:57 AM

The Fury

10-10-2005, 06:01 AM

Captain Britain isn't an X-men character!

*runs off*

The Sword Is Drawn

10-10-2005, 06:15 AM

@The Sword is drawn
That's the problem about not beng British - or even a native english speaker - those are the details that are easy to get wrong. Thanks, I'll make sure it will be changed.
Thanks for the nice words, guys.

Please don't think that I was being in any way snappy at you, mate. Other than that detail I cannot really fault anything in the bio. Very concise and a real help to X-Fans everywhere. Especially glad at your iunclusion of Knights of Pendragon in that list (Great series - poor second run)

And yes, The Fury is right. He's really a Marvel Universe character, but he has spent half of his life entwined with X-Men characters. And if it's an X-Book that keeps him in comics regularly, so be it.

Beast

10-10-2005, 06:17 AM

Captain Britain isn't an X-men character!

*runs off*
He's close enough by association due to Excalibur and New Excalibur to be considered one. :p

fishtaco

10-10-2005, 06:18 AM

Captain Britain isn't an X-men character!

*runs off*Sure he is. If the Scarlet Witch for a spotlight, then why not him? I'm also looking forward to spotlights of Quiksilver, Deadpool, Warbird, and Firestar (if we ever get any of those).

Grendel0606

10-10-2005, 06:24 AM

Please don't think that I was being in any way snappy at you, mate. Other than that detail I cannot really fault anything in the bio. Very concise and a real help to X-Fans everywhere. Especially glad at your iunclusion of Knights of Pendragon in that list (Great series - poor second run)

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I wasn't being ironic. I really consider that kind of criticism helpful, not in any way snappy :)

Beast

10-10-2005, 06:40 AM

I wish they'd do a Spotlight on Dark Beast. Trying to follow his canon is like a kick in the head. And that little 'Alternate Reality' note on Beast's Spotlight just ain't helping. ;)

Dizzy D

10-10-2005, 06:48 AM

Sure he is. If the Scarlet Witch for a spotlight, then why not him? I'm also looking forward to spotlights of Quiksilver, Deadpool, Warbird, and Firestar (if we ever get any of those).

I had some good part of a Deadpool spotlight written should it ever come out, but with the new revelations in Deadpool/Cable, I can probably start over again.

The Fury

10-10-2005, 08:11 AM

Sure he is. If the Scarlet Witch for a spotlight, then why not him? I'm also looking forward to spotlights of Quiksilver, Deadpool, Warbird, and Firestar (if we ever get any of those).
If Scarlet Witch, the mutant, who first appeared in X-men, you mean. Cap B is/did neither.

He's as much an X-men character as Dr Strange is an Avenger.

Tennoarashi

10-10-2005, 09:25 AM

If Scarlet Witch, the mutant, who first appeared in X-men, you mean. Cap B is/did neither.

He's as much an X-men character as Dr Strange is an Avenger.Building of this point - Excalibur was considered an X-Book, so I think at this point he's pretty much considered steeped in X-lore. His recent apperances have all had to do with X-books and X-characters.

I think he's more of an X-character than Scarlet Witch, personally.

The Fury

10-10-2005, 09:32 AM

Building of this point - Excalibur was considered an X-Book, so I think at this point he's pretty much considered steeped in X-lore. His recent apperances have all had to do with X-books and X-characters.

I think he's more of an X-character than Scarlet Witch, personally.
I dunno. Him not being a mutant and having 13 years of comic appearences before even meeting an X-man. While she first appear in X-men and is a mutant.

I mean look at the page count for his history, 8 pages of history and only on page 6 does he join Excalibur.

Actually only his most recent appearences have been with the X-men, before Uncanny #448 (I think), he last appeared in Avengers, then before that His own book that wasn't in anyway related to X-men, that is Since Excalibur series 1 finished.

Grendel0606

10-10-2005, 09:35 AM

If Scarlet Witch, the mutant, who first appeared in X-men, you mean. Cap B is/did neither.

He's as much an X-men character as Dr Strange is an Avenger.
Why is that any problem?
UXN.site isn't a site specifically for X-Men and X-Men only, but for characters who played and continue to play a big role in the X-verse. With being a part both of the old and new Excalibur Cap qualifies. Nobody is claiming that this makes him an X-man by default.

DDM

10-10-2005, 09:42 AM

I dunno. Him not being a mutant and having 13 years of comic appearences before even meeting an X-man. While she first appear in X-men and is a mutant.

I mean look at the page count for his history, 8 pages of history and only on page 6 does he join Excalibur.

Actually only his most recent appearences have been with the X-men, before Uncanny #448 (I think), he last appeared in Avengers, then before that His own book that wasn't in anyway related to X-men, that is Since Excalibur series 1 finished.

Captain Britain's association with the X-Men began through his sister, Betsy Braddock, a mutant telepath, who was saved from Mojo & Spiral in The New Mutants Annual #2. Eventually, Betsy joined the X-Men as Psylocke. It is Psylocke's association with the X-Men which links Captain Britain to X-Men. Furthermore, his adventures with Excalibur just further synthesizes the Captain Britain & X-Men canon together. Chris Claremont created Betsy Braddock (along with Captain Britain)--who enjoys the improvements from Alan Moore, Jamie Delano, & Alan Davis--that inspired him to intergrate Betsy into the X-Men.

Uncanny X-Men #462-465 is the complete synthesis of X-Men & Captain Britain into one.

The Fury

10-10-2005, 12:06 PM

Captain Britain's association with the X-Men began through his sister, Betsy Braddock, a mutant telepath, who was saved from Mojo & Spiral in The New Mutants Annual #2. Eventually, Betsy joined the X-Men as Psylocke. It is Psylocke's association with the X-Men which links Captain Britain to X-Men. Furthermore, his adventures with Excalibur just further synthesizes the Captain Britain & X-Men canon together. Chris Claremont created Betsy Braddock (along with Captain Britain)--who enjoys the improvements from Alan Moore, Jamie Delano, & Alan Davis--that inspired him to intergrate Betsy into the X-Men.

Uncanny X-Men #462-465 is the complete synthesis of X-Men & Captain Britain into one.
As a fan of Captain Britain and Psylocke, I know.

I'm just luckly you didn't tell me what happened in Uncanny 465, I have not read that yet (and don't tell me).

But Claremont created or not, that does not mean he is an X-man character, he is associated with them, much like Quicksilver or Scarlet Witch, but as they are more Avenger then anything, Cap B is more of a loaner in Britain then anything. Or at least connected to his own things (the omniverse and the Captain Corps).

DDM

10-10-2005, 12:49 PM

As a fan of Captain Britain and Psylocke, I know.

I'm just luckly you didn't tell me what happened in Uncanny 465, I have not read that yet (and don't tell me).

But Claremont created or not, that does not mean he is an X-man character, he is associated with them, much like Quicksilver or Scarlet Witch, but as they are more Avenger then anything, Cap B is more of a loaner in Britain then anything. Or at least connected to his own things (the omniverse and the Captain Corps).

But Roma's link to the X-Men from 1987's Fall of the Mutants bridges the X-Men to Captain Britain. I don't see a problem with it. Why do you?

The Fury

10-10-2005, 01:02 PM

But Roma's link to the X-Men from 1987's Fall of the Mutants bridges the X-Men to Captain Britain. I don't see a problem with it. Why do you?
Cap B is linked to them. But it doesn't mean he's a X-men character. Machine Man once had sentinel programming wihtin him, he had a big crossover with the X-men and Cable and others as well, does that make him a X-men character?

And I don't, I just like disputing stuff.