"Post your various questions about the X-men here" thread [Archive] - Page 7

Blackcat

05-12-2005, 02:31 PM

Nightcrawler is as well. Storm can actually give badges to whomever she wants, so in all likelihood evryone on her team is a member of the X.S.E (except X-23 and Psylocke, for now). Whether or not those X-Men who are no longer on her squad are members of the X.S.E. is the better question.

Not completely true: While the other teams of X-Men were more or less crusaders for Mutant Rights, the X-Treme team tried to improve human/mutant relations. Eventually they joined forces with the United Nations under the name X.S.E., X-Treme Sanctions Executive, and now have official authorization to act as the policemen of mutants around the globe. Recently they returned home, but they have kept their special X.S.E. status at the same time. Although now the team set-ups has recently been changed, the original X.S.E team kept their responsibilities as members of the X.S.E. This also included Gambit and Sunspot.

mattbib

05-12-2005, 03:19 PM

Not completely true: While the other teams of X-Men were more or less crusaders for Mutant Rights, the X-Treme team tried to improve human/mutant relations. Eventually they joined forces with the United Nations under the name X.S.E., X-Treme Sanctions Executive, and now have official authorization to act as the policemen of mutants around the globe. Recently they returned home, but they have kept their special X.S.E. status at the same time. Although now the team set-ups has recently been changed, the original X.S.E team kept their responsibilities as members of the X.S.E. This also included Gambit and Sunspot.What part of what I said isn't true? I know how the XSE was formed and who its members are. I also know that since returning to the mansion Nightcrawler has flashed an XSE badge.

It's therefore reasonable that if Psylocke stays on her squad that she'll be given a badge.

And it's also possible, as I don't belive that it's been addressed in any of the other or solo titles, that those X-Men that are no longer on Storm's squad (Rogue, Cannonball, Gambit...) also are no longer acting in the capacity of the XSE.

Ryan K

05-12-2005, 03:24 PM

And it's also possible, as I don't belive that it's been addressed in any of the other or solo titles, that those X-Men that are no longer on Storm's squad (Rogue, Cannonball, Gambit...) also are no longer acting in the capacity of the XSE.

It hasn't been mentioned as far as I know.

fishtaco

05-12-2005, 04:07 PM

There is the X-Treme Sanctions Executive.

Havok's team of X-men has been referred to more than once as the Away team.

Cyclops's team... Home team? Home X-men? eh.

deadend

05-13-2005, 12:51 PM

I just got back into comics about two months ago. when i was into them back in the day chris claremont was writing uncanny x-men and the stories were top notch. i picked up last months issue of uncanny and noticed he's still writing. so i was wondering has he been writing all this time, or was there a period where he left and he's just starting to write for it again? :confused:

DDM

05-13-2005, 12:58 PM

Chris Claremont entire run is the following:

Uncanny X-Men #94-278, Uncanny X-Men Annuals #3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 14, X-Men #1-3 (second series)
Uncanny X-Men #381-389, X-Men #100-109 (second series), X-Men: True Friends #1-3 (this is really an Excalibur story which takes place after Excalibur #32-34, "The School Girls From Heck")
X-Treme X-Men #1-46, 2001 Annual, X-Treme X-Men: Savage Land #1-4
Uncanny X-Men #444-present

Simon Garth

05-15-2005, 04:20 AM

He aint daft. That is one of the effects of her knife. Im sure he knows what he is doing, since he created her.

My point was, that this implies that he seems to think the best tool to unlock something is a knife. Now, call me old-fashioned, but I've always favoured a key in that circumstance....

(Psykeye? Could be read as psyk-eye.. Psykey? Perhaps not). Psyblade? Psyknife? Psysword? Psyord? ick! Maybe I'm trying to be too Marvel about his - what would DC call her? Mindsword Girl? Mindsword Lass? Swordmind-o? )

fishtaco

05-15-2005, 05:51 PM

My point was, that this implies that he seems to think the best tool to unlock something is a knife. Now, call me old-fashioned, but I've always favoured a key in that circumstance....

(Psykeye? Could be read as psyk-eye.. Psykey? Perhaps not). Psyblade? Psyknife? Psysword? Psyord? ick! Maybe I'm trying to be too Marvel about his - what would DC call her? Mindsword Girl? Mindsword Lass? Swordmind-o? )You just proved my point for me. A psychic key? Yeah, thats pretyt lame. Psylocke's ability to unlock people's minds like that isnt the main purpose of her psychic sword, or whatever you want to call it.

DDM

05-15-2005, 05:57 PM

My point was, that this implies that he seems to think the best tool to unlock something is a knife. Now, call me old-fashioned, but I've always favoured a key in that circumstance....

(Psykeye? Could be read as psyk-eye.. Psykey? Perhaps not). Psyblade? Psyknife? Psysword? Psyord? ick! Maybe I'm trying to be too Marvel about his - what would DC call her? Mindsword Girl? Mindsword Lass? Swordmind-o? )

When Psylocke was brainwashed & her body transformed into an Asian assassin for the Hand in Uncanny X-Men #256, Claremont titled the story "The Key That Breaks The Locke". Psylocke's psychic knife manifested in Uncanny X-Men #257 when she debuted as Lady Mandarin. Make of this information what you will...

Brian R

05-16-2005, 01:06 AM

Can you guys tell me what is up with Juggernaut at the moment? Is he still on one of the teams? Also, do we know why he is so de-powered? Thank you.

Crimson

05-16-2005, 01:09 AM

Can you guys tell me what is up with Juggernaut at the moment? Is he still on one of the teams? Also, do we know why he is so de-powered? Thank you.

He's stuck in Xorn 2's head... apparantly he'll be back near the end of this year.

mattbib

05-16-2005, 01:11 AM

Can you guys tell me what is up with Juggernaut at the moment? Is he still on one of the teams? Also, do we know why he is so de-powered? Thank you.No, he's not on a team. He disappeared into Xorn's head in Austen's last issue of Uncanny during a battle with the latest Brotherhood. He was still de-powered at the time.

Brian R

05-16-2005, 01:21 AM

Thanks guys. At least it seems like this will be a good opportunity to return him to his classic self, at least I hope so. While Juggy being on a team is interesting, and I dont mind it, having him so de-powered sort of goes against the very nature of the character, so I dont like it at all. Whats the point of being an unstoppable force if your not, you know? :D

Brian R

05-16-2005, 02:06 AM

Alright, someone on the Excalibur 13 thread mentioned Angel has a new suit with stealth properties... and that he now has superstrength? I think the suit sounds cool, but when and how did Angel become stronger? Any info on the suit and his newfound strength, and how they were obtained, would be great.

In any case, its nice to see him getting an upgrade, because these days "Flight" isnt much of a power by itself.

The Lucky One

05-16-2005, 07:21 AM

In any case, its nice to see him getting an upgrade, because these days "Flight" isnt much of a power by itself.

It is if you know how to use it... read that Thunderbolts story where he whales on Moonstone, Songbird, and Hawkeye.
;)

Regardless, it's not that he suddenly gained superstrength; it's that Claremont is delving into the natural extension of his powers. Warren's always had birdlike attributes (hollow bones, enhanced eyesight, etc.), and proportionally, most birds are way stronger than we are. It's a bit puzzling why that's only now being mentioned after 42 years, but technically, it is logical.

-D

The Fury

05-16-2005, 07:35 AM

Claremont is delving into the natural extension of his powers. Warren's always had birdlike attributes (hollow bones, enhanced eyesight, etc.),

-D
And Austen tried to change that, giving him heal powers and a sword.

But you are right, the strength maybe due to many things, the fact he's more bird like and birds are stronger then that average man (if they were our size). But also maybe consider his healing powers give him an extra bit of stamina so that he can push his limits that extra bit more, or that the suit is much like many other techno'suits. He's rich, one of his many companies may have developed a suit that enhances a person's strength, it did produce stealth after all.

Arrjay

05-16-2005, 07:37 AM

Siddon

05-16-2005, 07:48 AM

Forgive me if this question has already been pitched at some stage but I have always wondered why there are so many blue skinned mutants? Why is blue so prevalant? You don't see too many yellow mutants or green ones. What's up with that?

Most blue skin mutants are related to each other, Mystique, Nightcrawler and Apocaylpse, Archangel

But mostly because it was a lot easier to colour in the 80's before the company went digital. Beast for instant was suppossed to be grey but it was to much work to the grey colouring.

Siddon

05-16-2005, 07:50 AM

My question was Cassandra Nova a mutant or was she something else? Can we consider her a mutant?

The Fury

05-16-2005, 08:29 AM

Forgive me if this question has already been pitched at some stage but I have always wondered why there are so many blue skinned mutants? Why is blue so prevalant? You don't see too many yellow mutants or green ones. What's up with that?
The 4 that Siddon listed are good ones to use but it's hard to say. While Angel is no longer blue and at the start he wasn't. Apocalypse? I dunno, he may choose to be blue, his is a metamorph after all.

For Mistique and Nightcrawler though, yeah realted so that may help. She was blue so he is. Although his blue is a very fine layer of fur so his actuall skin may be a normal human colour.

My question was Cassandra Nova a mutant or was she something else? Can we consider her a mutant?
She was said to be a higher level of mutant, What the hell that meant I don't know. she confused me.

Flight

05-16-2005, 08:32 AM

Does Mystique choose to be blue?
Can she alter the colour of her skin to any colour? Was she born that way or is this the appearence she's comfortable with?

Arrjay

05-16-2005, 08:32 AM

Don't read this. It's irrelevant....

Siddon

05-16-2005, 09:25 AM

The 4 that Siddon listed are good ones to use but it's hard to say. While Angel is no longer blue and at the start he wasn't. Apocalypse? I dunno, he may choose to be blue, his is a metamorph after all.

She was said to be a higher level of mutant, What the hell that meant I don't know. she confused me.

Apocalypse used to look regular(Rise of Apoc mini) until he merged with Alien technology in X-force. He then "fathered" Archangel which made him blue. But neither Mystique nor Apocalypse chose to be blue there powers made them blue seemingly against there wishes.

Mystique is of the same family of Azreal - Nocturne - Abyss- etc she's from the one of the oldest mutant class's which was demon like.

Arrjay

05-16-2005, 09:28 AM

So, why blue? Why not green or orange or fuschia?

DDM

05-16-2005, 09:29 AM

So, why blue? Why not green or orange or fuschia?

Dave Cockrum designed Mystique to be blue with red hair in her true form. That's why.

The Fury

05-16-2005, 12:20 PM

Mystique is of the same family of Azreal - Nocturne - Abyss- etc she's from the one of the oldest mutant class's which was demon like.
Er..What?

You mean Nightcrawler right?

And Kiwi Black didn't look that demon like. But what has this got to do with why they are blue.

streator

05-16-2005, 12:34 PM

i remember this question being asked/answered in one of those "stan's soapboxes" things in marvel comics around 1998-1999. the answer was something along the lines of blue being a neutral color to work with and it working well on characters as a plausible tone. if a mutant changes color, or has changed color, its usually to blue. maggott went from turning gray to turning blue. magneto's power is usually depicted as blue. it functions well in signifying a change but not making it too drastic, letting the other colors (of say a costume) still stand out.

Simon Garth

05-16-2005, 12:36 PM

But mostly because it was a lot easier to colour in the 80's before the company went digital. Beast for instant was suppossed to be grey but it was to much work to the grey colouring.

I remember someone (Shooter?) being interviewed about that shortly afterwards - they said something to the effect that "he was supposed to be grey, but it came out looking purple in the books, so they changed him to blue"

Siddon

05-16-2005, 12:46 PM

Er..What?

You mean Nightcrawler right?

And Kiwi Black didn't look that demon like. But what has this got to do with why they are blue.

Because Blue is symbolic of familial lines for a number of the blue characters

Azreal <red demon> mixes with Mystique <blue demon> they have Nightcrawler <blue demon> who in an alternative world has Nocturne <blue demon>

Azreal also has three other children Abyss <blue demon> Kiwi Black <regular demon> some other blue chick I forgot about.

Why Kiwi Black doesn't look demonish is because the marvel terms for demon are subjective and have always been. Kiwi Black does not have the dominant genes that Nightcrawler, Mystique and Nocturne have. Its Austens ideas and although they are fascinating he didn't do a good enough job explaining them. He probablly needed a 30 part arc to explain how demons were just old mutants and how his genetic codes pass down.

The Fury

05-16-2005, 12:52 PM

mixes with Mystique <blue demon>
This is what I was 'What?ing to. Mystique is not a demon. Where di you hear this? who said it?

some other blue chick I forgot about.
You mean the Winged one that was attracted to Nightcrawler.

Kiwi Black does not have the dominant genes that Nightcrawler, Mystique and Nocturne have.
This whole demon story need to be retconned, what was Austen thinking?

Also, if Nightcralwer was a blue demon why is it that his blueness was due to his furr?

Siddon

05-16-2005, 01:12 PM

This is what I was 'What?ing to. Mystique is not a demon. Where di you hear this? who said it?

This whole demon story need to be retconned, what was Austen thinking?

Also, if Nightcralwer was a blue demon why is it that his blueness was due to his furr?

Mystique is a demon as she is from the class of mutants who were defined as demons in the bible, the genetic aspects of these mutants are passed down. It's what Austen was trying to get to in his Draco arc. I think its a great idea but it needs to be told much better as the draco was just really confusing.

streator

05-16-2005, 01:13 PM

This is what I was 'What?ing to. Mystique is not a demon. Where di you hear this? who said it?

You mean the Winged one that was attracted to Nightcrawler.

This whole demon story need to be retconned, what was Austen thinking?

Also, if Nightcralwer was a blue demon why is it that his blueness was due to his furr?
her name was jillian, actually named for austen's online friend at xfan, bamfette.
i think it was a bad idea, the demon bit, and is best left alone.

The Fury

05-16-2005, 01:28 PM

Mystique is a demon as she is from the class of mutants who were defined as demons in the bible, the genetic aspects of these mutants are passed down. It's what Austen was trying to get to in his Draco arc. I think its a great idea but it needs to be told much better as the draco was just really confusing.
So your saying Mystique is a decendent of early mutants that were known as Demons. So she herself is a mutant/demon?

Does that mean her father or mother was a mutant and their's was and their's was etc?

Either way, and although you may like it, I don't it sounds stupid. I can accept the 'Nightcralwer being born of Azazel' thing but Mystique as well being a mutant/demon thing, to me sounds stupid.

And thanks, streator for the name of that other demon/mutant person.

Siddon

05-16-2005, 01:39 PM

So your saying Mystique is a decendent of early mutants that were known as Demons. So she herself is a mutant/demon?

Does that mean her father or mother was a mutant and their's was and their's was etc?

Either way, and although you may like it, I don't it sounds stupid. I can accept the 'Nightcralwer being born of Azazel' thing but Mystique as well being a mutant/demon thing, to me sounds stupid.

Well she's a descendant from Azreal's group, whether its from her parents we don't know. And I don't think it sounds stupid for Marvel to try and categorize and classify its different Hell's and Satan figures as there are so many of them.

The Fury

05-16-2005, 01:50 PM

Well she's a descendant from Azreal's group, whether its from her parents we don't know. And I don't think it sounds stupid for Marvel to try and categorize and classify its different Hell's and Satan figures as there are so many of them.
So, Azazel being the first, he impregnated his great, great, great, great, great, great, (a load more 'great'), grand daughter?

Right OK, Was this ever writen in the comics themselves?

Siddon

05-16-2005, 01:57 PM

So, Azazel being the first, he impregnated his great, great, great, great, great, great, (a load more 'great'), grand daughter?

Right OK, Was this ever writen in the comics themselves?

I don't know if Azazel was the first just the most dominant and the leader but considering Julien wanted to nail her half brother Nightcrawler I wouldn't put it past those cheeky demon mutants.

The Fury

05-16-2005, 02:06 PM

I don't know if Azazel was the first just the most dominant and the leader but considering Julien wanted to nail her half brother Nightcrawler I wouldn't put it past those cheeky demon mutants.
Yeah I guess. *Pulls 'Eww!' face*

But if was this mentioned in the book itself, that Mystique was a demon decendent? If it wasn't I'm completely ignoring it down to utter crap made up by Austen.

Siddon

05-16-2005, 02:10 PM

Yeah I guess. *Pulls 'Eww!' face*

But if was this mentioned in the book itself, that Mystique was a demon decendent? If it wasn't I'm completely ignoring it down to utter crap made up by Austen.

I'm really not drunk enough to read that Austen storyline again but I'm pretty positive it was in there.

The Fury

05-16-2005, 02:17 PM

I'm really not drunk enough to read that Austen storyline again but I'm pretty positive it was in there.
Well, as it's pretty obvious I can't remember any of the stuff that was writen in that story (and it's not like I'm trying to remember).

I'm going to say it's Austen Bullcrap (even if it was in there, sounds bullcrap to me).

fishtaco

05-16-2005, 02:28 PM

It never said that Mystique is a demon, or her ancestors are one.

Grendel0606

05-17-2005, 12:29 AM

Well she's a descendant from Azreal's group, whether its from her parents we don't know. .
That wasn't said anywhere in the story. Azazel said that she was special... but he referred to her mutation, nothing else.

The Fury

05-17-2005, 02:41 AM

It never said that Mystique is a demon, or her ancestors are one.
Rock on.

Same thanks to Grendel as well.

'Tis good news.

Tommy

05-18-2005, 04:13 PM

How many new X-men or team members has Claremont created since he returned?

Dizzy D

05-18-2005, 05:11 PM

How many new X-men or team members has Claremont created since he returned?

You mean completely new characters like Thunderbird III, Slipstream and Lifeguard or older characters that became members like Sage and to some extend Callisto?

Tommy

05-18-2005, 05:41 PM

You mean completely new characters like Thunderbird III, Slipstream and Lifeguard or older characters that became members like Sage and to some extend Callisto?
Completely New.

Dizzy D

05-18-2005, 06:03 PM

Completely New.

Uncanny/X-men post Twelve:
Thunderbird III
Supporting/side-characters: Sketch was created to be a new member according to the sources I've read, but was never used again.

X-treme X-men: Slipstream, Lifeguard
Supporting/side-characters: none that I remember

Uncanny X-men (round III): none that I have seen so far.

Excalibur: somebody who reads Excalibur can give you the list. Probably far more characters than the other books generated.

streator

05-18-2005, 06:08 PM

well, in 2000 it was thunderbird III, neal sharra. the female cop with blue hair could count as a team member, as could red lotus, during a few of the xxm team's missions. the camerons, heather and neal, were both new and team members. later in xxm you could could evangeline whedon and marie d'ancanto or whatever as possible team members. also, if you count students, there was jeffrey garrett and maybe 5-6 others in the xxm schism arc. uncanny, maybe some other new students? i cant remember. but the main cc creations that became xmen/members of an x-team are tb3 and the camerons, lifeguard and slipstream.

edit/beaten to it, and yeah, sketch was originally intended to become a cast member. she only appeared though in either uncanny 382 or 383. i think 383.

streator

05-21-2005, 09:31 PM

/apologies for the double post, its been three days

in x-men 28, sabretooth says to rogue "ask how your long-lost brother is doing", in reference to her being raised by mystique. was this ever followed up on?

i have been reading through these issues, i really enjoy them. x-men 30 really makes one support the whole 'scott and jean' thing. nicieza wrote some good stories (and too, a few bad ones). also enjoyed x-men 34, seeing sinister's databases, where he has genetic material for milliard fillmore, abe lincoln, adolf hitler, churchill, edison, and even henry ford. gambit and psylocke worked well together. speaking of that issue (34), what happened with threnody after her appearances in x-man? i know she was supposedly pregnant with his child, is that it?

grampa doowop

05-22-2005, 01:20 PM

In Wolverine #125, where he is attacked by the women who he has intimate relationships with (being mind-controlled by Viper, I believe), does anyone know why Storm was not a part of the group? I did not get the next issue, so I don't know if it was explained there or if it was in issue 125 and I can't remember. I know that Claremont wrote that story and he included most of the women that Logan is close to: Tyger Tiger, Psylocke, Jean Grey, Jessica Drew, Jubilee, Shadowcat, Yukio, Rogue...but why not Storm? I mean isn't she just as connected to Wolverine as the rest? Just curious if anyone knows or if it was revealed?

bagheera

05-23-2005, 03:13 AM

Good question, GD, but I don't know the answer. I myself never saw him as connected to Storm as he is to those other women.

Here's my question: Who is this on the cover of Xmen #170?

http://www.milehighcomics.com/firstlook/052505/images/xmen170cvr.gif

LOL I just noticed Wolvie in the bottom with his claws extending outside his space suit!!!!

Hombre

05-23-2005, 03:16 AM

The blonde is Havok.

bagheera

05-23-2005, 03:20 AM

Ahhhh, thank you. I should have been able to figure that out, but I kept seeing that blue face and blonde hair and all I could think of was Angel.

Many thanks!

Siddon

05-23-2005, 07:43 PM

Question

What are the House of M crossover issues, Hulk, Captain America, Black Panther?

Shadow Crawler

05-23-2005, 07:55 PM

Question

What are the House of M crossover issues, Hulk, Captain America, Black Panther?
Incredible Hulk #83-86
Mutopia X #1-4
Uncanny X-Men #462-465
Wolverine #33-35
New X-Men #16-19
Exiles #69-71
Excalibur #13-14
The Pulse #10 & House of M Edition
Secrets of The House of M
Black Panther #7
Captain America #10
New Thunderbolts #11
Cable/Deadpool #17

And the minis:
Spider-Man: House of M #1-5
Fantastic Four: House of M #1-3
Iron Man: House of M #1-3

That should cover the whole thing.

GoGo Yubari

05-24-2005, 11:30 AM

Research time!

Has it ever been stated exactly how fast Surge (of Academy X) can go? I know she's capable of superspeed but I'm not entirely sure HOW fast.

ibrakeforchinwe

05-24-2005, 11:56 AM

Research time!

Has it ever been stated exactly how fast Surge (of Academy X) can go? I know she's capable of superspeed but I'm not entirely sure HOW fast.

Nope, never stated. I bet its pretty hard to calculate because she can absorb nearly infinite ammounts of energy. Well not anymore cuz of her gauntlets, but I dunno. Maybe you should go over to Comixfan and ask Nunzio and Christina.

Ryan K

05-24-2005, 05:40 PM

Nope, never stated. I bet its pretty hard to calculate because she can absorb nearly infinite ammounts of energy. Well not anymore cuz of her gauntlets, but I dunno. Maybe you should go over to Comixfan and ask Nunzio and Christina.

Or ask them in the thread stickied at the top of this forum.

Back to School with Nunzio DeFilippis and Christina Weir (http://forums.comicbookresources.com/showthread.php?t=27932)

No need to go to ComiXfan.

fishtaco

05-28-2005, 05:50 PM

Why did the X-men temporarily move their base to the Bermuda Triangle?

Nightcrawler

05-28-2005, 05:57 PM

Why did the X-men temporarily move their base to the Bermuda Triangle?

I am fairly sure the mansion was destroyed somehow...I think it was the Brood attack. It was sometime around Uncanny X-Men 120-130.

DDM

05-28-2005, 06:20 PM

Why did the X-men temporarily move their base to the Bermuda Triangle?

The X-mansion was destroyed in Uncanny X-Men #154-155; they decided to stay in the Bermuda Triangle while the mansion was being rebuilt. Over the course of this period, Illyana Rasputin fell victim to the demon lord, Belasco, on the island, in part due to her mutant affinity with Limbo's stepping discs. And the X-Men were abducted by Deathbird & the Brood. By the time the X-Men returned from space many months later, the mansion had been rebuilt for Xavier's X-Men & his novice class, the New Mutants.

fishtaco

05-29-2005, 05:48 PM

The X-mansion was destroyed in Uncanny X-Men #154-155; they decided to stay in the Bermuda Triangle while the mansion was being rebuilt. Over the course of this period, Illyana Rasputin fell victim to the demon lord, Belasco, on the island, in part due to her mutant affinity with Limbo's stepping discs. And the X-Men were abducted by Deathbird & the Brood. By the time the X-Men returned from space many months later, the mansion had been rebuilt for Xavier's X-Men & his novice class, the New Mutants.thanks for answering.

I just picked up New Mutants annual 1 today for like, a dollar. I have some questions about it

1. This is Lila Cheney's first appearance, correct?

2. When is the next time we see Lila and Sam together?

3. Did Sunspot ever put up a fight over Lila, much like Tabitha?

4. When does Gossamyr come in?

5. Whatever happened to her Dyson Sphere?

6. Why were Tom Corsi and Sharon Freidlander not in this? This is supposed to take place after the Demon Bear Saga.

7. In what issue did Magik join?

8. Was Warlock using an image inducer?

Grendel0606

05-29-2005, 11:02 PM

thanks for answering.

I just picked up New Mutants annual 1 today for like, a dollar. I have some questions about it

1. This is Lila Cheney's first appearance, correct? /QUOTE]
Yes.
[QUOTE]

2. When is the next time we see Lila and Sam together?
New Mutants 29.

3. Did Sunspot ever put up a fight over Lila, much like Tabitha?
Not at all. He just bitches every now and then about Lila's lousy taste in men.

4. When does Gossamyr come in?
Ugh, around the late 60ies of the New Mutants series

5. Whatever happened to her Dyson Sphere?

No idea.

6. Why were Tom Corsi and Sharon Freidlander not in this? This is supposed to take place after the Demon Bear Saga.
They went to Muir Isle for testing and getting their lives together. They didn't become staff members at Xavier's until later.

7. In what issue did Magik join?
New Mutants #14

8. Was Warlock using an image inducer?
He doesn't have to. He is a shapeshifter.

Vegetarian Goat

05-29-2005, 11:33 PM

Grendel0606

05-29-2005, 11:44 PM

Hey- quick question:

I was scoping around a website all about Rachel, and in the gallery section they had many pictures of the Askani woman who came to Cyclops and took Nathan into the future- was it ever revealed that this woman was actually Rachel? Or even who this woman was?
Askani wasn't RAchel, but an acolyte of the order of Askani which Rachel had founded. Of course, that timeline (and that version of Rachel) doesn't exist anymore...

Jack Flash

05-30-2005, 09:30 AM

Grendel0606

05-30-2005, 09:33 AM

Does anyone know what happened to the Dire Wraiths? WHy aren't they plaguing the X-men like the Brood do? what great bad guys they are. Wizards and brain eaters and body snatchers! I loved them when first reading them. and was just wondering.

Did Rom kill them all?
They were never primarily X-Men villains, but Rom villains, and Rom beat them (with the help of the heroes) in Rom #61-66. They appeared again though in New Warriors and the Space Knights mini

venuscameback

05-30-2005, 11:43 AM

in x-men 28, sabretooth says to rogue "ask how your long-lost brother is doing", in reference to her being raised by mystique. was this ever followed up on?

I always assumed this to be a reference to Nightcrawler being mystique's natural son and therefore the step-brother of Rogue

speaking of that issue (34), what happened with threnody after her appearances in x-man? i know she was supposedly pregnant with his child, is that it?

that can't be right, surely!!!

I don't recall so much as a proper kiss between Nate and Threnody, and there was a strong subtext going on implying that Nate was gay. I always 'read' him as gay so it seems odd Threnody would suddenly be carrying his baby.

I'm praying you're not right :(

venus

Vegetarian Goat

05-30-2005, 11:44 AM

Askani wasn't RAchel, but an acolyte of the order of Askani which Rachel had founded. Of course, that timeline (and that version of Rachel) doesn't exist anymore...

What happened to that timeline?

venuscameback

05-30-2005, 11:48 AM

It is if you know how to use it... read that Thunderbolts story where he whales on Moonstone, Songbird, and Hawkeye.
;)

Regardless, it's not that he suddenly gained superstrength; it's that Claremont is delving into the natural extension of his powers. Warren's always had birdlike attributes (hollow bones, enhanced eyesight, etc.), and proportionally, most birds are way stronger than we are. It's a bit puzzling why that's only now being mentioned after 42 years, but technically, it is logical.

-D

Warren's wings have been shown to be pretty strong though and capable of hurting folk pretty rough, right?

what issue of Thunderbolts is that Drew?

I think Warren's problem has been that writer's who inherited him on the team often didn't know how to write his powers to make him effective in combat, dismissing him as "just wings" instead of possessing versatile abilities - such as 'eagle eye' vision and breathing contorl - that when combined could make him a deadly opponent

This was underlined in the X-Factor tale that saw him immediately suicidal after his wings were amputated, as if all of his other abilities were lost or useless now and as if he'd too quickly given up hope on ever re-gaining them ... afterall, if Jean could've come back from the dead just a year earlier, it's not too much to hope that a way couldn't be found, in time, to restore his wings

venus

Vegetarian Goat

05-30-2005, 11:51 AM

I always assumed this to be a reference to Nightcrawler being mystique's natural son and therefore the step-brother of Rogue

Considering the source, perhaps he was referencing Graydon Creed?

Jack Flash

05-30-2005, 11:53 AM

Considering the source, perhaps he was referencing Graydon Creed?

That's what I thought it was referring too also.

xakko

05-30-2005, 12:34 PM

Warren's wings have been shown to be pretty strong though and capable of hurting folk pretty rough, right?

what issue of Thunderbolts is that Drew?

I think Warren's problem has been that writer's who inherited him on the team often didn't know how to write his powers to make him effective in combat, dismissing him as "just wings" instead of possessing versatile abilities - such as 'eagle eye' vision and breathing contorl - that when combined could make him a deadly opponent

This was underlined in the X-Factor tale that saw him immediately suicidal after his wings were amputated, as if all of his other abilities were lost or useless now and as if he'd too quickly given up hope on ever re-gaining them ... afterall, if Jean could've come back from the dead just a year earlier, it's not too much to hope that a way couldn't be found, in time, to restore his wings
venus

It has been repeatedly established that flying meant everything to Warren (losing the ability to fly drove the kid in Astonishing to the edge too), and also consider that he'd been publicly disgraced over the X-Factor scandal as well.

Swans and geese have injured people seriously by battering them with their wings, so this is definitely an attack Warren should employ more often

Grendel0606

05-30-2005, 01:52 PM

What happened to that timeline?
Weinberg (then writer of cable) reasoned that it didn't exist anymore as the X-Men had beaten Apocalypse during the 12 crossover and therefore prevented his eventual rise to power.

Porcelain

05-30-2005, 02:18 PM

Weinberg (then writer of cable) reasoned that it didn't exist anymore as the X-Men had beaten Apocalypse during the 12 crossover and therefore prevented his eventual rise to power.
So does that mean Adventures of Cyclops & Phoenix never happened? And for that matter Cabel's "origin" would be completely different right, I mean how would he even get to the future in the first place? Or is he just another time lost mutant like Bishop now? But that would mean that timeline still existed sort of in a different alternate place???? Head beginning to hurt...

DDM

05-30-2005, 04:52 PM

So does that mean Adventures of Cyclops & Phoenix never happened? And for that matter Cabel's "origin" would be completely different right, I mean how would he even get to the future in the first place? Or is he just another time lost mutant like Bishop now? But that would mean that timeline still existed sort of in a different alternate place???? Head beginning to hurt...

No, Cable's origin remains the same that was established in The Adventures of Cyclops & Phoenix #1-4 & Askani Son #1-4; however, that future is no longer a possible future for the mainstream Marvel Universe. Rachel Summers, from Earth 616, just did not land on that particular far flung future. She landed at the end of time where Cable rescued Phoenix.

Basically, time travel in the Marvel Universe creates alternate realities.

MrBiggs7

05-31-2005, 01:14 AM

Does Josh Foley have a chance with Magma?

fishtaco

05-31-2005, 06:07 AM

Does Josh Foley have a chance with Magma?Yes, but Dani is probably keeping an eye on her friends when it comes to Josh. Actually, I would like a Magma/Elixir thing. Magma isnt a teacher (and since she is going to be in the XSE, she probably will never be, but I can be wrong). If she isnt a teacher, Cyclops and Emma arent going to complain.

Dizzy D

05-31-2005, 06:11 AM

Does Josh Foley have a chance with Magma?

I don't think so, unless Magma has changed a lot. She has certain odd standards for boyfriends. Like being able to trace lineage back to ancient Rome. *insert smiley*

fishtaco

05-31-2005, 06:19 AM

I don't think so, unless Magma has changed a lot. She has certain odd standards for boyfriends. Like being able to trace lineage back to ancient Rome. *insert smiley*Still. I think she likes Josh for the same reason Rahne did. He gave Rahne her powers back with his healing ability. He brought Magma out of her coma with his healing factor. Its really too early to tell. Keep on readin :)

mattbib

05-31-2005, 06:35 AM

Does Josh Foley have a chance with Magma?No way. Any affection she's shown is pure gratitude.

Tobias March

05-31-2005, 02:23 PM

How many members of Generation X have there been and how many are still alive?

grampa doowop

05-31-2005, 02:25 PM

I posted this about a week ago and got one response from Bagheera who didn't know the answer. (Thanks Bagheera :D ) I figured I'd ask again, since I posted on a weekend. Just curious is all. My question is:

In Wolverine #125, where he is attacked by the women who he has intimate relationships with (being mind-controlled by Viper, I believe), does anyone know why Storm was not a part of the group? I did not get the next issue, so I don't know if it was explained there or if it was in issue 125 and I can't remember. I know that Claremont wrote that story and he included most of the women that Logan is close to: Tyger Tiger, Psylocke, Jean Grey, Jessica Drew, Jubilee, Shadowcat, Yukio, Rogue...but why not Storm? I mean isn't she just as connected to Wolverine as the rest? Just curious if anyone knows or if it was revealed?

Beast

05-31-2005, 02:31 PM

How many members of Generation X have there been and how many are still alive?
Here's a good refrence page for Generation X. :)

http://www.mutanthigh.com/genx.html

Tobias March

05-31-2005, 02:40 PM

Here's a good refrence page for Generation X. :)

http://www.mutanthigh.com/genx.html

Cheers for that.

Tommy

06-01-2005, 02:35 PM

What was that random word that Cable used instead of profanity?

Porcelain

06-01-2005, 02:45 PM

Yay I love time travel ret con, ick. (Cheers)

Ok so I went away awhile, X-Force>>X-Static??? What the hell? I know the concept behind X-Static and that they were supposed to be the new X-Force so went looking on UXMnet at the end of the X-Force run issue summaries and there was what I assumed to be the members of soon to be renamed X-Static.

What happened to X-Force? How did they get replaced? Last thing I remember hearing about was some road trip thing?

Thanks in advance :)

The Lucky One

06-01-2005, 02:51 PM

What was that random word that Cable used instead of profanity?

Oath! Or "Stab his eyes!"

As for X-Force, they went on a road trip waaaaaay the hell long ago, around X-Force #71 or so, and essentially became the New Mutants again in all but name until the "Counter-X" relaunch took effect, at which point Pete Wisdom took over and turned the easily influenced members (i.e., everyone but Dani) into his own paramilitary squad. That lasted 12 issues, then the name was stolen by the group you know as X-Statix... they were called X-Force for a year and a half or so, then changed their name (and book title) to X-Statix and ran for another couple. They're gone now, and most of the New Mutants/old X-Forcers have moved onto other things, though they reunited for a Rob Liefeld miniseries not long ago.

-D

Porcelain

06-01-2005, 04:06 PM

Thank you :)

So essentialy the "new guys" ripped the name and no one was around to complain?

Dizzy D

06-01-2005, 04:11 PM

Thank you :)

So essentialy the "new guys" ripped the name and no one was around to complain?

Basically yes. (Though the original X-force does show up to fight them over the name (though that may have been a set-up; with Spike telling the team later that he needs to pay for the use of the X-force name to the original members so they have to change the name [to X-statix], it seems like the former team made a profitable deal with the new X-force)

nubly

06-01-2005, 04:46 PM

they reunited for a Rob Liefeld miniseries not long ago.

-D

one of the best minis to date!

ibrakeforchinwe

06-01-2005, 04:54 PM

one of the best minis to date!

Joking right?

nubly

06-01-2005, 05:24 PM

Joking right?

not when we are talking about that man's work

ibrakeforchinwe

06-01-2005, 05:40 PM

not when we are talking about that man's work

To each their own....

streator

06-01-2005, 10:29 PM

uncanny 196, august 1985.
"you a mutie then, pryde--like him?!"
"gee, phil--are you a nigger?"

/in context, kitty is comparing 'mutie' to 'nigger' as a derogatory word.
//i am caucasian. how did this dialogue get published at the time, though? was this okay for 1985 marvel editorial? i was 2 when this issue was published, i am now 21 reading it as a back issue... it just seemed odd to me. kind of like the wolverine (2nd series) 'kike' issue, i think from maybe 129?, which was later re-issued without the term. even in context, this still strikes me as odd. coming from a 14-15 yr old kid (pryde) even in the mid-80's, that line does not really work. thoughts? more so, did anyone else notice this in reading the issue (then or since)?

Beast

06-01-2005, 10:34 PM

Why didn't editorial nix the word's use? It's due to the fact she's using it to illustrate a point. If she was using it in a mean spirited manner, then it would have likely been cut from the book. But since it's used to educate kids, that words do hurt, it's acceptable. After all, Comics are meant to educate, without preaching or talking down to kids. Think of it as similar to how Kitty uses ethnic slurs in New Mutants, to illustrate a point to those attending the funeral for a student who commited suicide.

mattbib

06-01-2005, 10:37 PM

streator

06-01-2005, 10:43 PM

She also used the word in conversation with Stevie Hunter. Her use of it never bothered me, despite the fact that she's white. Twenty years ago you were more apt to hear the word too, I think, coming out of people's mouths. I certainly remember hearing it growing up.

I do agree with you (I think this is your point) that the term "mutie" has never seemed quite offensive as the other.
i had heard the term used growing up as well.
i guess what i find surprising is seeing it in print, in comparison. i mean, today marvel doesn't even allow smoking, among other things. that wolverine thing i mentioned was maybe 5-6 years ago, if not more. just surprising to see it in a marvel comic, i guess.

Trevor

06-01-2005, 11:15 PM

Marvel doesn't allow smoking, because JQ is totally against it...though they do allow drinking, go figure.

By the way Cable always said "Oath". It had to be as corny as "by the goddess".

ibrakeforchinwe

06-01-2005, 11:46 PM

Marvel doesn't allow smoking, because JQ is totally against it...thought they do allow drinking, go figure.

By the way Cable always said "Oath". It had to be as corny as "by the goddess".

Drinking, sex and violence, but no red blood. Well somtimes red blood slips by, but Joe Q demanded that it be colored black or brown. Weirdo.

mattbib

06-01-2005, 11:51 PM

Well somtimes red blood slips by, but Joe Q demanded that it be colored black or brown. Weirdo.That's been a Marvel rule since its inception, because it was a rule of the Comics Code.

Also, I know I've seen smoking in Marvel comics somewht recently. Just can't remember where.

fishtaco

06-02-2005, 06:39 AM

That's been a Marvel rule since its inception, because it was a rule of the Comics Code.I thought that Marvel is free of the Comics Code now. :confused:

Just picked up X-men (2nd Series) # 11 yesterday. Have some questions.

1. Did the original Mojo (the one Longshot killed) ever come back?

2. Somebody tell me a few things about Mojo II, the sequel.

3. Is Maverick still a friend of the X-men? I dont know much about him, so I have no idea.

4. At the end, Shatterstar is mentioned. So, Shatterstar is the son of Longshot and Dazzler, right? What evidence goes against that? Because thats what people think, but they arent sure. Is Shatterstar their son?

5. Is X-men 47 the next time that Dazzler is seen? When is the next time Longshot was seen?

6. After Claremont left, were writers killing off a lot of his creations, and making little inuendo (sp?) about him? Like in # 10, Jubilee says "Oh, like we havent seen that a lot before". She was referring to X-men being mindcontrolled. But mainly, were they killing off a lot of his creations?

7. What happens to the Mojoworld? Is Mojo II the Sequel a good ruler? What is his status now?

The Lucky One

06-02-2005, 07:01 AM

I thought that Marvel is free of the Comics Code now. :confused:

Just picked up X-men (2nd Series) # 11 yesterday. Have some questions.

1. Did the original Mojo (the one Longshot killed) ever come back?

Yes. He's back now.

2. Somebody tell me a few things about Mojo II, the sequel.

Okay... um, he appeared once afterward, in a 2-part story in Marvel Fanfare, then just disappeared. Since he's gone and Mojo I is back, he's probably dead.

4. At the end, Shatterstar is mentioned. So, Shatterstar is the son of Longshot and Dazzler, right? What evidence goes against that? Because thats what people think, but they arent sure. Is Shatterstar their son?

No, he's not. It was a throwaway line, but Fabian Nicieza was pissed, as he never intended Shatterstar to be related to Longshot. So he went out of his way to clarify in a later issue that Shatty is a test tube baby. That wasn't enough for Marvel, though, so later stories have indicated a huge variety of things, from Beast claiming Shatty has identical DNA to Longshot (which wouldn't be the case if he was his son, actually) to Shatterstar's supposed "origin," which really just confused things more. You can read X-Force #59-61, but don't expect it to really clear things up. However, since Dazzler was hinted at having miscarried, Shatty's from 100 years in the Mojoverse future, and there's no real evidence for it, Shatterstar is probably not Longshot's son.

5. Is X-men 47 the next time that Dazzler is seen? When is the next time Longshot was seen?

Longshot is seen in Marvel Fanfare #... 4 and 5, I think, though don't quote me on that, plus X-Force #59-61 and a one-shot special. He last turned up in that Exiles two-parter, "So Lame." Dazz was in the Marvel Fanfare story, the X-Force arc, and X-Men #47, then reappeared in the Eve of Destruction arc. She was in a couple issues of Deadpool, plus a "Behind the Music" parody in X-Men Unlimited told her story, with a Longshot cameo, but it's kind of out-of-continuity.

7. What happens to the Mojoworld? Is Mojo II the Sequel a good ruler? What is his status now?

Like I said, probably dead. The Mojoverse constantly vacillates between being tyrannically ruled by Mojo and the Spineless Ones, then Longshot overthrows them and rules for a bit, then they come back, mindwipe him,a nd the whole process starts over again. It's actually rather a good, if tragic, metaphor, that Longshot is trapped in this karmic cycle he can never really escape, no matter what he does.

-D

mattbib

06-02-2005, 07:05 AM

I thought that Marvel is free of the Comics Code now. :confused: They are. So Queseda MAY (I dont' know one way or the other) may have dictated that Marvel artists continue to not use red blood.

streator

06-02-2005, 07:39 AM

That's been a Marvel rule since its inception, because it was a rule of the Comics Code.

Also, I know I've seen smoking in Marvel comics somewht recently. Just can't remember where.
i know emma was smoking at some point in nxm. an original coipel page for uncanny 448 had logan smoking on the stairs of braddock mansion.
i smoke, but i can see quesada's point in not having it be a part of a comic book. if younger kids are a target audience (which is debatable) it makes sense to not have their heroes smoking cigarettes in the pc sense. i'll admit (and this has nothing to do we me smoking) i always thought gambit having a cigarette or wolverine having a cigar added something to their mystique/allure as characters.
i remember in poptopia logan is shown getting off a plane, and he is clearly drawn to have a cigar in his mouth, but the art was reworked. looked kind of goofy.

twilight

06-02-2005, 07:41 AM

Would it be reasonable to ask questions about Belasco here?

He is a X-Men foe.

Grendel0606

06-02-2005, 08:03 AM

Would it be reasonable to ask questions about Belasco here?

He is a X-Men foe.
Sure (though few remember he was originally a Ka-Zar villain)
BTW, you can find info about Belasco here:

http://www.uncannyxmen.net/db/article/showfaq.asp?fldAuto=4

deadend

06-02-2005, 09:07 AM

That's been a Marvel rule since its inception, because it was a rule of the Comics Code.

Also, I know I've seen smoking in Marvel comics somewht recently. Just can't remember where.

i can't count the number of times i've seen issues with wolverine smoking. like the most recent ish of spider man? when aunt may puts the cigar he's smoking into the glass of whiskey he's drinking.

Beast

06-02-2005, 09:32 AM

i can't count the number of times i've seen issues with wolverine smoking. like the most recent ish of spider man? when aunt may puts the cigar he's smoking into the glass of whiskey he's drinking.
Cigars typically get more leway than cigarettes do in comics and TV shows. Mostly due to the fact that kids arn't as likely to pick up a cigar. Yeah, it's crazy.... but it's a fact. :)

Sabre

06-02-2005, 01:30 PM

What was that random word that Cable used instead of profanity?

"Flonq"..?

He seemed to use it a fair amount, anyway.

Dr. Killbydeath

06-02-2005, 01:53 PM

Cigars typically get more leway than cigarettes do in comics and TV shows. Mostly due to the fact that kids arn't as likely to pick up a cigar. Yeah, it's crazy.... but it's a fact. :)

Seriously, most kids have no taste.....

Crimson

06-02-2005, 02:51 PM

When did the orignal X-Men series go into reprints... was it in the #50's?

I'm just wondering if the next Masterworks will be the last one.

mattbib

06-02-2005, 02:52 PM

When did the orignal X-Men series go into reprints... was it in the #50's?

I'm just wondering if the next Masterworks will be the last one.That question's answered in the FAQ at the top of the page. :)

Crimson

06-02-2005, 02:54 PM

That question's answered in the FAQ at the top of the page. :)

Thanks, its been a while since I read that... I forgot.

Guess they could still fit out one volume of the Masterworks then.

surferfan23

06-03-2005, 02:59 AM

ibrakeforchinwe

06-03-2005, 03:17 AM

I haven't been reading the million X-books lately, only the good one-Astonishing. But I was wondering if good ole' Juggernaut was still a good guy(wtf?), or if he is back to normal and throwing puny x-men around like rag dolls again?

Well a few months ago he, along with the newest dumbest version of the brotherhood, was sucked into "black hole" inside the character Xorn's head.

In the most recent Uncanny issue, 460, out yesterday, he along with Nocturne(a former Exile) emerged from a worm hole. The blackhole they had been sucked into was actually a worm hole and it landed them in Mojoverse.

So he is still a good guy, but he has only just come back. It has been said that he will be in a new X-Book in November.

Rorschach4100

06-03-2005, 11:30 AM

Ok we all know magento has control over metal but do his powers only work on metal that oxidizes (sp?) or do they work on any type of metal?

exilr

06-03-2005, 12:38 PM

Why does sinister never try and kill cyclops?

The Lucky One

06-03-2005, 12:40 PM

Probably because he doesn't want him dead.

-D

Dizzy D

06-03-2005, 02:00 PM

His powers work on more than just metal (there is a longer explanation somewhere on the forum. The gist of it is that strong enough electromagnetism influences all matter).
He just has an easier time with magnetic metal. Oxydising or not makes no difference at all.

fishtaco

06-03-2005, 06:44 PM

Why does sinister never try and kill cyclops?Because Sinister has always had a keen interest in Scott's DNA. Once, he discovered that if the DNA of Scott Summers is crossed with that of Jean Grey's, their offspring would be a mutant powerful enough to kill Sinister's enemy, Apocalypse. When he made this discovery, their was a problem: Jean Grey was dead (she died in Uncanny X-men 137). That was a minor problem, and so Sinister created a clone of Jean Grey, made up a false past for her, and named her Madelyne Pryor. He set up for Scott and Madleyne to meet, in which they did in Uncanny X-men 169-170. Pretty soon, they fell in love and were married (Uncanny X-men 175). In Uncanny X-men 201, baby Nathan Christopher Charles Summers was born. Cyclops left Maddy and Nathan when Warren called him and told him that Jean is alive (X-Factor # 1), and so he left and formed the team with Warren, Jean, Hank, and Bobby called X-Factor, as well as the X-Terminators. Following the events of the Inferno crossover, Scott gained custody of Nathan. In X-Factor # 68, Apocalypse found out that Sinister had a plan to kill him by using the baby, and so he infected Nathan with a T-O virus. Mother Askani (actually Phoenix II) took Nathan into the future, where is infection can be treated. Before he was even taken into the future, Cable returned to the present in New Mutants 87. Eventually, Cable reached his purpose of living in X-men: The Search For Cyclops # 4. Sinister wo.

However, he never wanted Scott to die because he needed his DNA. He was very protective of Scott's life from the Dark Riders in X-men (v2) 23.

Ryan K

06-03-2005, 07:36 PM

Does anyone know between what issues does New Mutants Annual #4 take place?

Mr. Croup

06-03-2005, 08:10 PM

When did Magento gain the ability to create and use quantum wormholes?

I recently looked at one of the X-Books, and they mentioned that he had come from NYC to Genosha via a wormhole.

Nightcrawler

06-03-2005, 08:13 PM

When did Magento gain the ability to create and use quantum wormholes?

I recently looked at one of the X-Books, and they mentioned that he had come from NYC to Genosha via a wormhole.

Pretty recently. The incident you speak of was around New X-Men #150.

Archer

06-03-2005, 08:23 PM

It was in an Excalibur, I think about 8 or 9.

Ryan K

06-03-2005, 08:39 PM

Magneto's wormhole powers are new and not yet fully explained. The characters in Excalibur were surprised that he could do this. For all we (the readers) know, this could be something that was setup for the House of M or (more likely) a future storyline by Chris Claremont that now may or may not be told due to the cancellation of Excalibur.

Mr. Croup

06-03-2005, 08:50 PM

So, they were turning him into a living version of the Unified Field/M-Brane/Superstrings Theory.

MrBiggs7

06-03-2005, 09:26 PM

Finals are coming up, do you think they put Prodigy in a room all by himself?

Evilempire22

06-03-2005, 09:55 PM

So he is still a good guy, but he has only just come back. It has been said that he will be in a new X-Book in November.

He is going to be in the New Excalibur along with Nocturne...Claremont named the lineup here: http://www.newsarama.com/wwphilly05/Marvel/XPanel/WWPhilXMen.htm

--Evil

streator

06-04-2005, 12:40 AM

whose x-man's parents (birth) have never been shown?

shown, as far as i can remember
cyclops
jean
beast
angel
iceman
havok
cannonball
moonstar
wolfsbane (i'd count rev. craig)
sunspot
warlock
kitty pryde
colossus
wolverine
storm
nightcrawler
maggott
cable
rachel summers
x-man (for the most part)
psylocke
jubilee
m
xavier
juggernaut
nocturne
banshee
tb3
emma frost
random
magik
madrox
shadowcat
magneto
bishop, shard
sunfire
quicksilver, wanda
slipstream
meltdown
shatterstar (kind of)
lifeguard

have not been shown, i think (again, birth)
gambit
rogue
forge
marrow
dr. reyes
bedlam bros.
feral, thornn
rictor
wildchild
rusty, skids
dazzler? i do not know, but id assume so
strong-guy
mystique

twilight

06-04-2005, 12:44 AM

Finals are coming up, do you think they put Prodigy in a room all by himself?

Interesting question.

I imagine that they have too.

ibrakeforchinwe

06-04-2005, 12:45 AM

Finals are coming up, do you think they put Prodigy in a room all by himself?

Or maybe a power inhibitor? Or put him in a room with all the remedial kids.

twilight

06-04-2005, 12:56 AM

Sure (though few remember he was originally a Ka-Zar villain)
BTW, you can find info about Belasco here:

http://www.uncannyxmen.net/db/article/showfaq.asp?fldAuto=4

Hmmmmmm I read through all that and it didn't really help me.

But I understand that he is much weaker when in our realm instead of Limbo or Hell or wherever it is he lives.Is this correct?

What does he do with the spells he casts?

Can he be beaten by pure physical force?

Dizzy D

06-04-2005, 02:16 AM

So, they were turning him into a living version of the Unified Field/M-Brane/Superstrings Theory.

He has been that for a big part of the 80s (his Handbook description mentions the same thing)

Dizzy D

06-04-2005, 02:24 AM

I can't remember seeing Slipstream and Lifeguard's real parents (if they really are half Shi'ar/half human).

rogue: I believe we saw her father once in a flashback. Might have been the cartoon though. Big guy with beard.

feral, thornn: Their mother was shown in a flashback.

rictor: His father was shown in a flashback where Stryfe kills him.

wildchild: I believe both his parents were shown in an X-factor issue that completely focuses on him and his history.

dazzler? i do not know, but id assume so: Her father was a big part of her solo-series.

strong-guy: Not seen, but Guido has said that they both died in a freak accident (satellite dropped on their house).

MrBiggs7

06-04-2005, 02:27 AM

Does Juggernaut have some kind of power subconsiously giving him the way out of different universes, worlds, and dimensions? He has been lost and made his way back home than anyone I know in the marvel universe. When he was sucked in Xorn II's brain a few months back, there wasn't a doubt in my mind that he would be bringing Nocturne sometime soon.

Dizzy D

06-04-2005, 02:43 AM

surferfan23

06-04-2005, 03:57 AM

Was it Shadow King who crippled him? I forgot.

twilight

06-04-2005, 04:08 AM

Was it Shadow King who crippled him? I forgot.

No.It was Lucifer.

http://www.uncannyxmen.net/db/spotlight/showquestion.asp?faq=10&fldAuto=105&page=3

Crimson

06-04-2005, 05:49 AM

Dizzy D

06-04-2005, 06:29 AM

No.It was Lucifer.

http://www.uncannyxmen.net/db/spotlight/showquestion.asp?faq=10&fldAuto=105&page=3

You are both right: Lucifer originally crippled him. Xavier then got a cloned body when his original body was taken over by the Brood. The Shadow King crippled the second body.

twilight

06-04-2005, 07:50 AM

You are both right: Lucifer originally crippled him. Xavier then got a cloned body when his original body was taken over by the Brood. The Shadow King crippled the second body.

Thanks for clearing that up Dizzy :)

cable guy

06-04-2005, 08:57 AM

You are both right: Lucifer originally crippled him. Xavier then got a cloned body when his original body was taken over by the Brood. The Shadow King crippled the second body.

I thought so.

Jack Flash

06-04-2005, 09:38 AM

Dazz's dad was shown to be a federal judge. not sure about her mom though.

we haven't seen Gateway's parents. or Callistos. not sure if they count.....they are in that sorta x-men status.

Jack Flash

06-04-2005, 09:42 AM

Grendel0606

06-04-2005, 10:04 AM

Is Belasco less powerful outside of Limbo (Like Magik was?) or is he not limited like she was? Most of his spells tended to turn friends into enemies. He was able to bring the evil side out of anyone. He turned Nightcrawler into a being of pure evil I believe. but this was over time, so it's not an immediate thing. maybe Dizzy, Cronin, or Bib can comment further.
Belasco was already a powerful sorcerer on Earth. He' was more powerful in Limbo, because he was master of it and could presumably do pretty much everything he wanted there, but, unlike MAgik, he is also a powerful sorcerer on Earth.

fishtaco

06-04-2005, 05:51 PM

mattbib

06-04-2005, 07:44 PM

Just picked up the Fall of the Mutants tpb.

When the X-men died in Dallas, the New Mutants took up the mantle of the X-men, correct? But I thought that was when the X-men were turned into X-babies? Or did the New Mutants become the X-men both times? When the X-men died in Dallas, and if the New Mutants became the X-men, who else later joined those New Mutant-X-men? I know the NM's who started it were Sam, Illyana, Rahne, Warlock, Dani, and Bobby. But did Amara, or Shan, or anyone else join the NM-X-men during their lives as the X-men?The New Mutants didn't become the X-Men after the X-Men "died" in Dallas.

Trevor

06-04-2005, 11:12 PM

Bella Blaire (grandmother),
Carter Blaire (father, deceased),
Katherine Blaire-Brown /
XXXBarbara London (mother),
Lois London (half-sister),
Longshot (husband)

these are the relatives of Alison Blaire aka Dazzler

Dazzler's mom is the woman at the bottom of this image, crying.

http://www.uncannyxmen.net/images/spotlight/dazzler18.jpg

nubly

06-05-2005, 12:08 AM

Just picked up the Fall of the Mutants tpb.

When the X-men died in Dallas, the New Mutants took up the mantle of the X-men, correct? But I thought that was when the X-men were turned into X-babies? Or did the New Mutants become the X-men both times? When the X-men died in Dallas, and if the New Mutants became the X-men, who else later joined those New Mutant-X-men? I know the NM's who started it were Sam, Illyana, Rahne, Warlock, Dani, and Bobby. But did Amara, or Shan, or anyone else join the NM-X-men during their lives as the X-men?

the new mutants took up their graduation uniforms that they wore when they were briefly the x-men. they stayed the new mutants though. the next members that joined the new mutants were four kids from the x-terminators: rusty, skids, boom boom and rictor.

nubly

06-05-2005, 12:14 AM

He is going to be in the New Excalibur along with Nocturne...Claremont named the lineup here: http://www.newsarama.com/wwphilly05/Marvel/XPanel/WWPhilXMen.htm

--Evil

Nocturne, Juggernaut, Dazzler, Sage, Pete Wisdom, and Captain Britain

cant say i like this line up that much. hopefully claremont's writing will be as good as it was in excalibur and not as bad as uncanny x-men

Dizzy D

06-05-2005, 04:09 AM

cant say i like this line up that much. hopefully claremont's writing will be as good as it was in excalibur and not as bad as uncanny x-men

Complete opposite for me. That line is probably one of my favourite line-ups ever (why no Meggan though? *sad*)

I hope that we get at least a decent explanation why Cap has been demoted again.

Grendel0606

06-05-2005, 05:16 AM

Complete opposite for me. That line is probably one of my favourite line-ups ever (why no Meggan though? *sad*)

I hope that we get at least a decent explanation why Cap has been demoted again.
I imagine that's going to be part of the storyline in Uncanny #462-465

mattbib

06-05-2005, 07:45 AM

(why no Meggan though? *sad*)
"Pregnant" was the first thing that popped into my head.

mattbib

06-05-2005, 07:46 AM

*drat* double post

Jack Flash

06-05-2005, 08:36 AM

can somebody tell me more about Paradigm (Bedlam's Hellions) power level and ability? I remember him being a powerhouse near Warlock's level, but I have been wrong in my recollections before!

mattbib

06-05-2005, 08:56 AM

can somebody tell me more about Paradigm (Bedlam's Hellions) power level and ability? I remember him being a powerhouse near Warlock's level, but I have been wrong in my recollections before!Here's some info from www.comixfan.com (http://www.comixfan.com)...

The techno-entity known only as Paradigm was originally a young Hong Kong mutant with technokinetic abilities. He was kept in an institute and constantly observed by researchers.

When he was thirteen, the doctors injected him with what is presumed to have been a sample of material from the alien Phalanx. The Transmode Virus native to the Phalanx race infected the boy's entire body, but due to his technokinetic abilities he remained in control of his new techno-organic body. Paradigm, as he now dubbed himself, escaped the lab and went on a search for new biological and technological systems to integrate with itself. Paradigm feels that only by constantly adapting can it survive.

Paradigm later encountered the mutant named Christopher Aaronson who, as King Bedlam, recruited Paradigm the New Hellions. Paradigm does not appear to share King Bedlam's goals of power, wealth, and world domination, but seems to have joined for protection benefits and the chance to study more systems to potentially use for later adaptations.

Paradigm can change into shape it wants, and can also use techno-organic tendrils to encase, subdue and manipulate other creatures, even humans. It can also fly, and presumably has all of the other abilities of a nascent Phalanx.

Otherwise maybe check out the issue summaries for those X-Force issues; I don't remember much about him.

The Lucky One

06-05-2005, 09:27 AM

can somebody tell me more about Paradigm (Bedlam's Hellions) power level and ability? I remember him being a powerhouse near Warlock's level, but I have been wrong in my recollections before!

He definitely wasn't Warlock levels... he was more like a slightly enhanced version of the Phalanx. Basically, he could take you over with techno-organic tendrils and fly, but though the uncannyxmen.net writeup mentions that he could shapeshift however he wanted, I don't recall him really showing that in his appearances, so I'd imagine they're speculating. He didn't show the ability to transmode anyone or to change his color or size, and was vulnerable to Dani's quantam abilities of the time.

-D

Huzzah!

06-05-2005, 09:28 AM

the new mutants took up their graduation uniforms that they wore when they were briefly the x-men.

anyone who thinks any costume is bad needs to compare it to those costumes. Quite quickly they will see the error of their ways.,

fishtaco

06-05-2005, 10:36 AM

For Paradigm, check out X-Force #'s 87-90. That was John Francis Moore at his best during his X-Force run.

xakko

06-05-2005, 11:26 AM

anyone who thinks any costume is bad needs to compare it to those costumes. Quite quickly they will see the error of their ways.,

I loved the Art Adams costumes from Uncanny Annual #10, especially Dani's, Shan's and Illyana's I think Sunspot and Warlock were the only two I didn't, and even Sunspot's looked fairly cool with his power effect

TAGU.

06-06-2005, 10:20 AM

missing Exodus :(
I found this pic on the web, anyone know this from (title & issue number) ?
http://www.damasaretai.com/oeb/thumb/1118074461284s.jpg
He is one of my fab villains, so I'm collecting his appearance. :)

streator

06-06-2005, 01:00 PM

DDM

06-06-2005, 03:55 PM

question about nimrod...
how did he merge with master mold? i remember right before they went through the siege nimrod was 'conscious' and his personality was portrayed, almost as if nimrod was working against master mold.
i know about emerging as bastion and later becoming template and all that, just unsure as to how nimrod/master mold came to be one originally.

Nimrod, in his disguise as the human, Jamie Rodriquez, picks up an element of the Master Mold II at a construction site; the Master Mold merges with Nimrod & attacks the other construction workers in Uncanny X-Men #246-247. Claremont had intended this battle to be the end for both the Master Mold II & Nimrod when the Sentinel self detonated before it went through the Siege Perilous.

nubly

06-06-2005, 06:13 PM

Dr. Killbydeath

06-06-2005, 06:22 PM

Not really, Xavier was killed in Israel right after world war two... That would make Kirika more than 50 years old... That wouldn't make any sense...

nubly

06-06-2005, 06:30 PM

Not really, Xavier was killed in Israel right after world war two... That would make Kirika more than 50 years old... That wouldn't make any sense...

but events that happen in the MU move up as real time progresses. ok im reading too much into it i know

fishtaco

06-06-2005, 06:40 PM

should'nt wolverine have a daughter running around in the MU? if the AOA split apart from the MU when xavier died, then that was after mariko gave birth to AOA X-23. maybe we'll be seeing her counterpart in the MU sometimeIt should be noted that continuity was not respected in the recent AOA mini, so you cant expect it to make any sense.

Dr. Killbydeath

06-06-2005, 06:44 PM

Yeah, AoA Psylocke came out of nowhere... AoA psychic were mostly taken by Apocalypse... And her being Japanese makes even less sense...

Dizzy D

06-07-2005, 12:21 AM

should'nt wolverine have a daughter running around in the MU? if the AOA split apart from the MU when xavier died, then that was after mariko gave birth to AOA X-23. maybe we'll be seeing her counterpart in the MU sometime

Not if AoA's X-23 is younger than Legion was (the timeline split off before Legion's birth, so everything that happened until then can be changed.)
And they found her in a cylinder in Sinister's lab, so nobody knows what he did to her. Artificial aging is a certain possibility (Nate Grey, anyone?)

fishtaco

06-07-2005, 06:52 AM

Not if AoA's X-23 is younger than Legion was (the timeline split off before Legion's birth, so everything that happened until then can be changed.)
And they found her in a cylinder in Sinister's lab, so nobody knows what he did to her. Artificial aging is a certain possibility (Nate Grey, anyone?)That would mean that the AOA X-23 and the 616 X-23 are not the same person.

streator

06-07-2005, 07:21 AM

The Lucky One

06-07-2005, 07:32 AM

during the latter part of the outback era, after rogue, longshot, and maddie had left, where exactly was wolverine? i remember havok and the others commenting on not knowing where he was, and needing him. where did he go?

I think he was in his own solo book at the time, off in Madripoor. Back in the days when his having adventures elsewhere meant he actually wouldn't appear in the main book for a while... the horror!

-D

mattbib

06-07-2005, 07:52 AM

during the latter part of the outback era, after rogue, longshot, and maddie had left, where exactly was wolverine? i remember havok and the others commenting on not knowing where he was, and needing him. where did he go?
also, during the 'acts of vengeance' uncanny issues, how were wolverine's ghosts able to harm others? for example, jubilee could not see them at all, yet somehow 'nick fury' was able to shoot at and harm the mandarin's troops. i know the overall plot (of him going crazy) was abandoned, but in context is there any sense of an explanation?Drew's right. Logan even mentions in his own title while he's in Madripoor that he's pursuing those adventures solo to protect the X-Men. Heh.

As for Wolverine's "ghosts," good question. Maybe it was just coincidence? I've no idea. But also, his friend Rose was able to percieve the "ghosts." Which would seem impossible unless she were ever revealed to have been telepathic.

twilight

06-07-2005, 08:50 AM

Grendel0606

06-07-2005, 08:51 AM

Does Cyclops sleep with a visor on?

If not whats to stop him from having a particularly scary dream,waking up and blowing the roof off Xavier's?

I refuse to believe he has mentally trained himself to sleep uninterupted for eight hours and then reach out to his bed-side table and put on his visor/shades without opening his eyes.
In the past he was seen wearing a special pair of ruby quarz glasses which are attached around his head rather than an ordinary pair of glasses which could slip down in his sleep

The Lucky One

06-07-2005, 08:52 AM

He used to be seen wearing googles to sleep in.

-D

Grendel0606

06-07-2005, 08:53 AM

during the latter part of the outback era, after rogue, longshot, and maddie had left, where exactly was wolverine? i remember havok and the others commenting on not knowing where he was, and needing him. where did he go?
also, during the 'acts of vengeance' uncanny issues, how were wolverine's ghosts able to harm others? for example, jubilee could not see them at all, yet somehow 'nick fury' was able to shoot at and harm the mandarin's troops. i know the overall plot (of him going crazy) was abandoned, but in context is there any sense of an explanation?
If I remember the scene correctly it was Psylocke using her psychic powers to cut down those men (subconsciously) as she totally bought into the existence of thoser ghosts once she had inadvertantly forged a rapport with Wolverine via her psychic knives. I think it was even stated in one of those issues.

twilight

06-07-2005, 08:59 AM

He used to be seen wearing googles to sleep in.

-D

Interesting.

The only reason I asked is that I was thinking of a scene from 'E is for Extinction' and I seem to remember Cyclops being asleep and then Emma coming in and Scott quickly putting his shades on.

streator

06-07-2005, 09:15 AM

Interesting.

The only reason I asked is that I was thinking of a scene from 'E is for Extinction' and I seem to remember Cyclops being asleep and then Emma coming in and Scott quickly putting his shades on.
he was awake, telepathically communicating with jean at the time. he did have his eyes closed and wasnt wearing his glasses, though.

nubly

06-07-2005, 12:14 PM

during the latter part of the outback era, after rogue, longshot, and maddie had left, where exactly was wolverine? i remember havok and the others commenting on not knowing where he was, and needing him. where did he go?

he was in madripoor over in his own series. that was back when marvel kept up with continuity.

also, during the 'acts of vengeance' uncanny issues, how were wolverine's ghosts able to harm others? for example, jubilee could not see them at all, yet somehow 'nick fury' was able to shoot at and harm the mandarin's troops. i know the overall plot (of him going crazy) was abandoned, but in context is there any sense of an explanation?

it was explained in the last issue of x-men acts of vegnance that psylocke was linked to logan with her telepath. since wolverine thought his ghosts were real, so did psylocke. as a result, she used her telepathy to hurt those troops when nick and carol fired their weapons

Dizzy D

06-07-2005, 03:12 PM

That would mean that the AOA X-23 and the 616 X-23 are not the same person.

I think the three claws instead of two and being his daughter are strong hints in that direction as well.

MrBiggs7

06-09-2005, 03:00 AM

What's the special class?

Tenebrae

06-09-2005, 03:27 AM

What's the special class?

The Special Class were a group of students (what would be called a squad today) who were being mentored by Xorn (before he was revealed to be 'Magneto'). They were a group of kids who needed special attention. Among them were Beak, Angel Salvadore, Ernst, Martha, Basilisk, Dummy and No-Girl.

MrBiggs7

06-09-2005, 04:08 AM

The Special Class were a group of students (what would be called a squad today) who were being mentored by Xorn (before he was revealed to be 'Magneto'). They were a group of kids who needed special attention. Among them were Beak, Angel Salvadore, Ernst, Martha, Basilisk, Dummy and No-Girl.

Were they retarded or like physically disabled? All I know of Beak is what I've read recently in exiles.

Tenebrae

06-09-2005, 04:27 AM

Were they retarded or like physically disabled? All I know of Beak is what I've read recently in exiles.

Nope, it wasn't a special class in that way, they needed special attention because their powers and/or personalities made them outcasts even among the other mutants at the school. They were all the kind of mutants who probably would have ended up with the Morlocks a few years ago.

They did all have powers that made them look different, but they weren't disabled. They also weren't in the class for having learning disabilities. Ernst was particularly intelligent, for instance.

Blackcat

06-09-2005, 04:36 AM

Were they retarded or like physically disabled? All I know of Beak is what I've read recently in exiles.

Esmé and Basilisk both got killed by Xorneto.

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streator

06-09-2005, 07:11 AM

Nope, it wasn't a special class in that way, they needed special attention because their powers and/or personalities made them outcasts even among the other mutants at the school. They were all the kind of mutants who probably would have ended up with the Morlocks a few years ago.

They did all have powers that made them look different, but they weren't disabled. They also weren't in the class for having learning disabilities. Ernst was particularly intelligent, for instance.
i agree, but i also feel that basilisk was slightly mentally impaired. just by his odd jokes, demeanor. and ernst did not outwordly project her intelligence, it was kind of a perception-based thing. to most, she was an odd, quiet girl. thats why when she was standing up to magneto he said something along the lines of "you! i always suspected there was something different about you" or something.

Beast

06-09-2005, 08:16 AM

i agree, but i also feel that basilisk was slightly mentally impaired. just by his odd jokes, demeanor. and ernst did not outwordly project her intelligence, it was kind of a perception-based thing. to most, she was an odd, quiet girl. thats why when she was standing up to magneto he said something along the lines of "you! i always suspected there was something different about you" or something.
He said that because she's really Cassandra Nova. Though it seems noone was aware that Ernst was Nova except for Xavier and Jean. Since Scott and Hank went searching for Nova's cell after the mansion was destroyed by Xorneto. Of course that could have been Chuck Austen being as clueless as ever, considering that he was going to have her be his 'Big Bad' that was influencing Carter. :p

fishtaco

06-09-2005, 09:37 AM

Esmé and Basilisk both got killed by Xorneto.Esme wasnt part of the Special Class. Just clarifying.

nubly

06-09-2005, 11:08 AM

was no-girl an actual character? when i read the series which featured the special class, it seemed to me that they made up no-girl as a joke to xorn

streator

06-09-2005, 11:12 AM

was no-girl an actual character? when i read the series which featured the special class, it seemed to me that they made up no-girl as a joke to xorn
in 'here comes tomorrow' no-girl was revealed to be martha's (the floating brain) psychic projection. why basilisk could only see her, i dont know.

Beast

06-09-2005, 03:49 PM

in 'here comes tomorrow' no-girl was revealed to be martha's (the floating brain) psychic projection. why basilisk could only see her, i dont know.
I think it was meant to be implied, that Xorn couldn't see her due to the helmet.

nubly

06-09-2005, 06:26 PM

I think it was meant to be implied, that Xorn couldn't see her due to the helmet.

so everyone else in the class could see her?

Beast

06-09-2005, 06:30 PM

so everyone else in the class could see her?
I believe so. I'm pretty sure that Beak commented about No-Girl as well. I'd have to re-read the issues again. But I'm pretty sure it wasn't just Basilisk.

Tenebrae

06-09-2005, 07:47 PM

I always assumed No-Girl was a joke the kids were playing on Xorn, that he couldn't see her because she genuinely didn't exist. If the intention was to show that everyone could see her but Xorn, the right way to get that across would have been an establishing shot of her existing for the readers, then another shot of her empty seat from Xorn's point of view.

I only started treating her as a real character when I came here and got the impression she was generally treated as such by others. But for my money she wasn't real and we'll never see her again.

GoGo Yubari

06-15-2005, 12:55 AM

Regarding Jesse Bedlam's ability to affect the human brain in the later X-Force issues, does anybody know if he could use this on multiple people at once or just one person at a time?

fishtaco

06-15-2005, 07:42 AM

Regarding Jesse Bedlam's ability to affect the human brain in the later X-Force issues, does anybody know if he could use this on multiple people at once or just one person at a time?Jesse Bedlam did not have that power. King Bedlam, jesse's brother, had that power. And yes, he can use it on multiple people at once. Jesse's power is to scramble electronic systems. In other words, he's a living monkey wrench.

Check out X-Force #'s 87-90 for all that jazz. Really good story.

The Lucky One

06-15-2005, 08:00 AM

Jesse Bedlam did not have that power. King Bedlam, jesse's brother, had that power. And yes, he can use it on multiple people at once. Jesse's power is to scramble electronic systems. In other words, he's a living monkey wrench.

I believe GoGo is referring to Jesse's abilities in the Counter-X issues, when Warren Ellis decided to give everyone an arbitrary new power, like Warpath's flight. It was pretty lame, but since GoGo's competing in a competition, every new application of power helps.

Sorry, GoGo, those were some of the few X-Force issues I haven't read. Wish I could help.

-D

fishtaco

06-15-2005, 10:08 AM

I believe GoGo is referring to Jesse's abilities in the Counter-X issues, when Warren Ellis decided to give everyone an arbitrary new power, like Warpath's flight. It was pretty lame, but since GoGo's competing in a competition, every new application of power helps.

Sorry, GoGo, those were some of the few X-Force issues I haven't read. Wish I could help.

-DI know that Warpath gained flight, but did Jesse get that power too? And what additional power did Cannonball and Meltdown get?

See, I loved Warren Ellis's work on Excalibur, but when he replaced John Francis Moore on X-Force, I just hated it. The art didnt make it any better. I like Pete Wisdom, but not as the leader of X-Force. Domino and Dani both left (even though Dani went somewhere good). The art during Shockwave, or Counter X, or whatever didnt make it any better. The team was reduced to four members, plus Pete. I though giving Proudstar flight was a bad idea, and I hope that Jesse didnt get that extra power.

What pisses me off a lot more is that Chuck Austen killed off Jesse for no reason at all. :mad:

GoGo Yubari

06-15-2005, 10:26 AM

fishtaco

06-15-2005, 04:36 PM

Pretty much. In those issues, apparently, Jesse Bedlam gained the ability to manipulate the, to quote Mutant High, "electro-chemical responses of the human (and not-so-human) brain to make people feel pain or fall asleep."

Pretty darn useful, which is why I want to know more about it.
In that case, he probably was able to effect more than one person.

Where are the solicitations!??!?!??

Beast

06-15-2005, 04:42 PM

Where are the solicitations!??!?!??
Early solicits slipping out will probably be another week. The way the month works out this time, it puts the release of Previews on the 29th. And usually early solicits don't turn up until about a week before. :)

Blackcat

06-16-2005, 08:34 AM

Are Cloak and Dagger mutants????

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Dizzy D

06-16-2005, 08:37 AM

Are Cloak and Dagger mutants????

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They were said to be mutants in their old series (though Gruenwald didn't like the reasoning): they gained superpowers when injected with an experimental drug that killed anybody else. The series claimed that the drug awakened their mutant powers. Gruenwald thought that you then could call Spider-Man, the FF and the Hulk also mutants, but he was willing to include Cloak and Dagger on the big list of mutants that once appeared in Marvel Vision, while he left the other heroes.

mattbib

06-16-2005, 11:16 AM

That was years ago when Marvel was trying to include C&D and Alpha Flight as X-Men titles. I prefer to categorize them as mutates, and just assume the wrong term was used way back when.

xakko

06-16-2005, 12:27 PM

That was years ago when Marvel was trying to include C&D and Alpha Flight as X-Men titles. I prefer to categorize them as mutates, and just assume the wrong term was used way back when.

Now where does this place Lorna? Wasn't she a latent mutant before having her powers activated, or was green haie enough to join the club?

The Lucky One

06-16-2005, 01:05 PM

Now where does this place Lorna? Wasn't she a latent mutant before having her powers activated, or was green haie enough to join the club?

That's the official company line, last time I checked- her green hair was enough to make her an official mutant, but the magnetism was her latent power.

-D

DDM

06-16-2005, 01:10 PM

Now where does this place Lorna? Wasn't she a latent mutant before having her powers activated, or was green haie enough to join the club?

Mesmero used his gene stimulation machine to access Lorna's untapped potential which turned out to be magnetism. Otherwise, Lorna Dane's green hair marked her as a latent mutant, but she was missing a few strands of DNA to access her powers. Once her genes were stimulated, Lorna's powers became active. Claremont did something similar with Slipstream's teleportation powers when he used Sage to jumpstart his latent powers.

nubly

06-16-2005, 05:36 PM

the mutant misadventures of cloak and dagger. heh

riotgear

06-16-2005, 06:32 PM

From the Marvel Handbook:

“Polaris”
Real Name: Lorna Dane (adoptive name, given name is unrevealed)
Other Known Aliases: None
Former Aliases: Malice IV, Magnetrix, Magneto the Second, M-2
Dual Identity: Publicly known
Status: Active
Current Occupation: Adventurer
Former Occupation: U.S. government operative; graduate student
Citizenship: United States of America
Legal Status: No criminal record
Place of Birth: Unrevealed
Marital Status: Single
Known Relatives: Zaladane (alleged sister, presumed deceased), unnamed aunt and uncle (adoptive parents)
Known Confidants: Havok, X-Factor II, Doc Samson
Usual Base of Operations: Xavier’s School for Gifted Youngsters, 1407 Graymalkin Lane, Salem Center, Westchester County, New York state
Former Bases of Operations: Genosha (a small