"Post your various questions about the X-men here" thread [Archive] - Page 6

BizarroBeachHead

03-16-2005, 12:30 PM

And I'm glad they didn't do the father-thing, I hate those inbred storylines were every single character is somehow related to another one.
I completly agree.
As for the Sabretooth-Wolverine enmity: there are various factors. The memory implants of Sabretooth killing Wolverine's girlfriend Silver Fox go a long way to explain their hatred. Sabretooth being a brutal and ruthless killer in almost all of his incarnations is of course another one.
Aside from the good reasons you listed, also because Sabretooth is everything Wolverine could become(beastial killer) if he didn't keep strugglin with his "dark side". I always saw Sabretooth as the living equivilant of Logan's dark side, course I'm pretty sure everyone else does too...

mattbib

03-16-2005, 01:06 PM

how do you know? He should be!!Because he wasn't meant to be Sabretooth. I think Jenkins even clarified somewhere.

And WHY should he be? Why does every MU character have to be related to another?

BizarroBeachHead

03-16-2005, 01:32 PM

Because he wasn't meant to be Sabretooth. I think Jenkins even clarified somewhere.

And WHY should he be? Why does every MU character have to be related to another?I liked that he wasn't Sabretooth, but why did Dog have to be illustrated to look exactly like Creed. It looked like it was only done so that people would keep guessing if it was another connection between Logan and Sabretooth, but it clearly wasn't Sabretooth, so what was the point?

mattbib

03-16-2005, 01:51 PM

...but why did Dog have to be illustrated to look exactly like Creed.He wasn't...they didn't even have the same hair color, nor did Dog have claws.
http://www.marvunapp.com/Appendix/dogorign1.jpg

BizarroBeachHead

03-16-2005, 08:12 PM

hmmmm, I supose my memory is fuzzier than I thought. For some reason I just remembered him looking like Sabretooth.

spoon_jenkins

03-18-2005, 12:14 PM

Yesterday, I read X-Treme X-Men #25. Kitty tells her psychologist that she killed someone before. That didn't ring any bells with me. Can someone tell who she killed and in what issue?

What Kitty said was: "I did once, you know. To save a friend's life, I killed. Every day I tell myself it was necessary, she deserved it, I had no choice, because I still see eyes... so full of passion and anger and life one moment... and the next, just glass."

mattbib

03-18-2005, 12:47 PM

fishtaco

03-19-2005, 02:54 PM

I havent read X-men Omega, and I missed X-men AOA #1. If anyone knows where the following characters are, please tell me.

AOA Magik
AOA Mystique
AOA Switchback
AOA Damask
AOA Sinister
AOA Lila Cheney
AOA Jubilee
AOA Wildchild

Faust451

03-19-2005, 11:34 PM

Is Simon Trask still alive or what?

Doom Hammer

03-20-2005, 12:53 PM

What's the status of the Weapon X mini that's supposed to come out this summer? Is there any news, rumors, or anything?

I haven't heard it mentioned since I heard they were going to make it.

Hello, Doom from the past. This is Doom from the future.

-Oh. What's up?

Well, some new stuff has come in regarding the Weapon X mini.

-Really? Okay, let's hear it.

Well, writer Frank Tieri’s Weapon X mini-series (the aptly named Days of Future Now) debuts in July. Art is by Bart Sears.

-Mmm-hmm, that's cool. Anything else you wanna tell me, future Doom?

Umm...watch out for ebola. *Cough*

Faust451

03-22-2005, 04:55 PM

In what issue of X-Factor does Mastermold revealve a portion of the Twelve?

Dizzy D

03-22-2005, 04:59 PM

In what issue of X-Factor does Mastermold revealve a portion of the Twelve?

Either X-factor #13 or 14, that was the Master Mold story at least.

DDM

03-22-2005, 05:01 PM

In what issue of X-Factor does Mastermold revealve a portion of the Twelve?

X-Factor #13-14 (Scott searches for his missing wife, Madelyne Pryor in Alaska; the Master Mold mainframe rebuilds itself & comes to the decision that all humans possess the potential to be mutants. Therefore, it decides to kill all humans. Cyclops fights the Master Mold all by himself with the help of few local police men.) It's a great story by Louise & Walter Simonson.

Chris Claremont makes a hint about the Twelve in Uncanny X-Men #208 via Nimrod when searching for mutants in his vicinity. He identifies X-Factor & the X-Men as the Twelve.

Faust451

03-22-2005, 05:01 PM

Either X-factor #13 or 14, that was the Master Mold story at least.

Yeah it was. But that wasn't it.

B/c you get to see mental projections from Mastermold or something like that. But they releave Storm, Franklin Richards, Apocalypse, and then I don't know what happens...

Faust451

03-22-2005, 05:04 PM

X-Factor #13-14 (Scott searches for his missing wife, Madelyne Pryor in Alaska; the Master Mold mainframe rebuilds itself & comes to the decision that all humans possess the potential to be mutants. Therefore, it decides to kill all humans. Cyclops fights the Master Mold all by himself with the help of few local police men.) It's a great story by Louise & Walter Simonson.

Chris Claremont makes a hint about the Twelve in Uncanny X-Men #208 via Nimrod when searching for mutants in his vicinity. He identifies X-Factor & the X-Men as the Twelve.

But niether of those are it. As far as I know.

Faust451

03-22-2005, 05:06 PM

What was Louise Simonson's last issue of X-Factor?

Was it 62?

spoon_jenkins

03-22-2005, 05:35 PM

What was Louise Simonson's last issue of X-Factor?

Was it 62?
Her last issue is 64 (the end of a 2 issue arc about Iceman and Opal).

DDM

03-22-2005, 05:44 PM

Yeah it was. But that wasn't it.

B/c you get to see mental projections from Mastermold or something like that. But they releave Storm, Franklin Richards, Apocalypse, and then I don't know what happens...

Yes, it's X-Factor #13-14 with images of Storm, Franklin Richards, Cyclops, among other mutants; I remember this specifically because of the Walt Simonson art. The Master Mold II tries to kill Franklin Richards in Power Pack #36.

Huzzah!

03-22-2005, 05:59 PM

Cant we all just forget the twelve. I mean there had to be 30 friggin members of the twleve. ;)

streator

03-22-2005, 06:25 PM

Faust451

03-22-2005, 06:42 PM

Cant we all just forget the twelve. I mean there had to be 30 friggin members of the twleve. ;)

Don't confuse the original concept with the crap that Harras' X-Men produced.

Faust451

03-22-2005, 06:45 PM

Yes, it's X-Factor #13-14 with images of Storm, Franklin Richards, Cyclops, among other mutants; I remember this specifically because of the Walt Simonson art. The Master Mold II tries to kill Franklin Richards in Power Pack #36.

Ok. I must have just missed the panel or panels where they flash the mentioned characters. The funny thing is that I've read both of those issues (which were great of course). Oh well...

thanks!

bagheera

03-22-2005, 08:10 PM

xavier
magneto
polaris
cyclops
jean grey
cable
mikhail rasputin
bishop
iceman
sunfire
storm
the living monolith

really disappointing follow up to what it could have been, or what it was intended to be.

What!!!! No Wolverine!!!!!!!! :mad:

Faust451

03-22-2005, 09:02 PM

Alpha to Omega

03-22-2005, 09:35 PM

Just what were all of Legions powers? I know he's telepathic, telekinetic and pyrokinetic but how did he go back in time to start the AOA? Thanks in advance.

The Lucky One

03-22-2005, 10:10 PM

Initially, he possessed the three powers you listed, with the twist that he had multiple personalities, each of which controlled one power- Jemail (formerly a real person who David absorbed into his head) controlled the telepathy, Jack Wayne the telekinesis, and Cyndi (who had a crush on Doug "Ladies' Man" Ramsey) the pyrokinesis... plus David himself, who was powerless. Each of these abilities was extremely powerful, and he had the potential to be an even stronger telepath than his father, Charles Xavier.

Then during the Muir Island Saga, Legion was possessed by the Shadow King, and when he was defeated David was left a comatose vegetable. He reawakened in Legionquest, having supposedly reintegrated his personalities back into one. (For what happened to Jemail, Jack, and Cyndi, see Excalibur #121.) Not only that, he had also gained new powers, possibly from previously unseen personalities- one of these was the ability to time-travel. And with that little bit of deus ex machina, the AoA was on its way.

Any other questions?

-D

Atom_basher

03-22-2005, 10:24 PM

Any other questions?

-D

wasnt his hair a mutant power?

fishtaco

03-23-2005, 06:49 AM

wasnt his hair a mutant power?
Good question, actually. Did they ever explain his crazy hair?

fishtaco

03-23-2005, 06:54 AM

What!!!! No Wolverine!!!!!!!! :mad:
At the time, Wolverine was a horseman of Apocalypse, so nope, he wasnt part of the Twelve.

Dont forget people, the gathering that happened in the Twelve crossover wasnt the real Twelve. The purpose of the Twelve was to be led by Cable to defeat Apocalypse. Now, what happened was that Apocalypse exploited the Twelve, by taking mutants (of his choice, some in the supposed twelve, some not), and converting their powers to his through X-man's body. It was all an illusion. We are not sure what the twelve was supposed to be.

The horsemen were Rory Campbell, Deathbird, Caliban, and Wolverine. The Twelve were Sunfire, Iceman, Mikhail Rasputin, Cyclops, Phoenix, Cable, Storm, Living Monolith, Bishop, Polaris, Magneto, and ProffessorX.

The Lucky One

03-23-2005, 07:12 AM

Good question, actually. Did they ever explain his crazy hair?

Yeah- he was designed by Bill Seinkiewicz.
:D

-D

Huzzah!

03-23-2005, 07:38 AM

Good question, actually. Did they ever explain his crazy hair?

That's levitation, holmes

Huzzah!

03-23-2005, 07:39 AM

I thought the purpose of the 12 was to wage war on humanity. Ah who cares at this point. :p

Neolucifer

03-23-2005, 07:46 AM

His powers ??? To create the Age of Apocalypse then die in shame :D

The Lucky One

03-23-2005, 08:01 AM

I thought the purpose of the 12 was to wage war on humanity. Ah who cares at this point. :p

No, they were originally described as the twelve mutants who would change the world irrevocably, presumably for either good or ill.

-D

Huzzah!

03-23-2005, 08:05 AM

http://www.uncannyxmen.net/db/article/showquestion.asp?faq=4&fldAuto=71

Found that primer for the curious.

Huzzah!

03-23-2005, 08:05 AM

And fire MIND BULLETS

Master Darque

03-23-2005, 08:28 AM

Huz ....were you disappointed when you found out the JB/GL movie was a hoax ? LOL .... I'm a fan of the D myself .

Dizzy D

03-23-2005, 12:13 PM

No, they were originally described as the twelve mutants who would change the world irrevocably, presumably for either good or ill.

-D

I think that definiton was also a later one. I believe the original definition was that the Twelve were twelve beings (not even stated that they were all mutants IIRC) who prevented that all mutants were wiped out by the Sentinels during Days of Future Past (which makes sense for people like Xavier, Storm, Cyclops, Magneto and Apocalypse to be part of the Twelve: all of them have been concerned with mutant survival but each of them had their own methods.)

Faust451

03-23-2005, 12:58 PM

I think that definiton was also a later one. I believe the original definition was that the Twelve were twelve beings (not even stated that they were all mutants IIRC) who prevented that all mutants were wiped out by the Sentinels during Days of Future Past (which makes sense for people like Xavier, Storm, Cyclops, Magneto and Apocalypse to be part of the Twelve: all of them have been concerned with mutant survival but each of them had their own methods.)

Wow. Excellent point.

Cheers mein fruend.

nubly

03-23-2005, 06:43 PM

i recently had time to catch up on the current x-books and in the hellfire trilogy that just passed by in uncanny x-men, it has courtney ross as the new white queen. didnt she die in excalibur #5?

Beast

03-23-2005, 06:48 PM

i recently had time to catch up on the current x-books and in the hellfire trilogy that just passed by in uncanny x-men, it has courtney ross as the new white queen. didnt she die in excalibur #5?
She did. Supposedly it's still Sat-R-Nyne (sp?) who's taken her place. C.C. just isn't mentioning it, because it would confuse new readers. :)

nubly

03-23-2005, 06:58 PM

ah thanks for clearing that up for me. i forgot that she was replaced by her counterpart

Kaskratiski

03-23-2005, 10:44 PM

Tenebrae

03-23-2005, 11:05 PM

Would anyone be so kind as to tell me whatever happened to this villain?

http://onfinite.com/libraries/385031/f73.jpg

He is Bloodscream, from some Wolverine issues , (I don't know which volume, but it's the run that had Jessica Drew as a supporting player and possessed by some magickal sword)

Is he dead?
Has he appeared recently?
Thanks for your help!

Bloodscream turned up as an ally of Belasco, and came into conflict with Wolverine, Psylocke and Beast. However, they revealed to him that Belasco was misleading him and intended to use him to bring the power of demons to Earth. Bloodscream attacked Belasco to allow the X-Men to escape, but was seemingly sucked into the netherworld.

However, sometime later, Shaman cast a spell which revealed many enemies of Wolverine. Bloodscream was among them, so its possible he's still out there somewhere.

Kaskratiski

03-23-2005, 11:22 PM

Bloodscream turned up as an ally of Belasco, and came into conflict with Wolverine, Psylocke and Beast. However, they revealed to him that Belasco was misleading him and intended to use him to bring the power of demons to Earth. Bloodscream attacked Belasco to allow the X-Men to escape, but was seemingly sucked into the netherworld.

However, sometime later, Shaman cast a spell which revealed many enemies of Wolverine. Bloodscream was among them, so its possible he's still out there somewhere.
Thanks a lot.
If it's not too much to ask, do you know which issues of Wolverine Bloodscream appeared last?
If you don't know, that's ok.
Thanks so much!

mattbib

03-23-2005, 11:26 PM

Thanks a lot.
If it's not too much to ask, do you know which issues of Wolverine Bloodscream appeared last?
If you don't know, that's ok.
Thanks so much!I believe it was Wolverine #170.

Grendel0606

03-24-2005, 12:41 AM

She did. Supposedly it's still Sat-R-Nyne (sp?) who's taken her place. C.C. just isn't mentioning it, because it would confuse new readers. :)
Confuse them anymore than, say, have JAmie Braddock appear out of nothing an create havoc or have the Fury appear without an explanation? :)
Not saying you are not right, that probably was the reason, but still it seems like a not well-thought out reason on the side of the writer/editors

Kaskratiski

03-24-2005, 12:49 AM

I believe it was Wolverine #170.
Thanks, Matt! :)

Beast

03-24-2005, 12:51 AM

Confuse them anymore than, say, have JAmie Braddock appear out of nothing an create havoc or have the Fury appear without an explanation? :)
Not saying you are not right, that probably was the reason, but still it seems like a not well-thought out reason on the side of the writer/editors
Well, both the Fury and Jamie Braddock were given fairly decent explainations in the issues where they popped up. They weren't heavily detailed, but they were explained. Can you imagine how new readers eyes would cross at them trying to explain that Courtney wasn't really Courtney, but was an alternate reality version of C.R. who had taken her place. It sounds like way too much explaination to deal with for the character. :)

Alpha to Omega

03-24-2005, 02:39 AM

Tobias March

03-24-2005, 02:55 AM

Some sort of miscarried, dark half twin of Xavier. Seemed to have analagous powers to his, yet more based on a physical plane - absorbing Trask DNA like Charles would someone's memories.

Question - how did Jamie come back to life? I dropped X-Factor after PAD.

Huzzah!

03-24-2005, 03:09 AM

I think they used the it was one of his clones things

atoningunifex

03-24-2005, 03:21 AM

Thanks for all the info guys but I have another question that's been bugging me for awhile, just what the hell was Cassandra Nova, what were her powers and what happened to her? I ask because I dropped New X-Men after Morrison changed her origin for like the third time and I've been wondering what her whole deal was.

Cassandra Nova was Xavier's twin. The Shi'ar have a legend about something called a Mummundrai (or something like that- stupid Shi'ar spellings). Basically it's your opposite number that you meet and battle before your born. Kinda like the idea of Nemesis. Cassandra tried to kill Xavier in the womb but Xavier killed her instead.

Because this is a comic book, Cassandra Nova didn't actually die. But she didn't have a body either. She was a bodiless mental entity. After a period of time she learned how to create a body telekinetically and could interact with people. But her psychosocial maturty was stunted. She'd never developed the normal idea of the world. To her the world was broekn down into two things- herself and Xavier. Anything that was not her was Xavier. It's how a baby views the world when it was first born. Difference being that Cassandra had a name for the world and its name was Charles Xavier.

There is a theory that the Sublime entity was controlling Cassandra Nova, but I can't really think of any text where that's said. I think it's just an idea.

Cassandra Nova is a high-order telekinetic and telepath. She can manipulate matter to the cellular level. She can read adn copy a person's genetic code. She can manipulate her body in any way she pleases.

At the end of the Imperial arc she was trapped in the body of the shape changing member of the Imperial Guard. Xavier and Jean then decided to try and re-educate her. She took the shape of Ernst and became a student at Xavier's. She remained Ernst until the end of Morrison's run. In the nodal future of the Here Comes Tomorrow arc Cassandra Nova was the leader of the X-Men. She'd adopted the name Xavier and was a hero.

No one knows where Cassandra is now. Ernst hasn't been seen since the end of Morrison's run. The X-Men believe Cassandra Nova was locked up in the basement of the mansion after the Imperial arc. They don't know that Ernst was Cassandra Nova learning about being a person.

There's a theory that Cassandra Nova is the person Emma Frost was talking to at the end of the Gifted arc and that she's the villain of the current arc.

Dizzy D

03-24-2005, 03:33 AM

I believe it was Wolverine #170.

Bloodscream also appeared in Spider-Man's comics: Amazing Spider-Man #435.

The Lucky One

03-24-2005, 05:29 AM

Question - how did Jamie come back to life? I dropped X-Factor after PAD.

They explained that, after his dupe gave mouth-to-mouth to that mutate with the Legacy Virus, Jamie instinctively didn't reabsorb him. At every point after that issue, Jamie was never alone, having at least two dupes with him... the catch was that one of those was Jamie himself, and the "main" Jamie, with the Legacy Virus, was actually a dupe. After it died, the psychic backlash gave Jamie amnesia, so he wandered around on his own for a while before regaining his memories eventually.

Of course, nowadays Jamie apparently doesn't reabsorb damage from his dupes (secondary mutation?), so he probably wouldn't have anything to worry about.

-D

Dizzy D

03-24-2005, 05:36 AM

They explained that, after his dupe gave mouth-to-mouth to that mutate with the Legacy Virus, Jamie instinctively didn't reabsorb him. At every point after that issue, Jamie was never alone, having at least two dupes with him... the catch was that one of those was Jamie himself, and the "main" Jamie, with the Legacy Virus, was actually a dupe. After it died, the psychic backlash gave Jamie amnesia, so he wandered around on his own for a while before regaining his memories eventually.

Of course, nowadays Jamie apparently doesn't reabsorb damage from his dupes (secondary mutation?), so he probably wouldn't have anything to worry about.

-D

The problem with that is "does a virus count as 'damage'?". I wouldn't try it if I were him (at least as long as he has no idea where his dupes come from and go to.)

fishtaco

03-24-2005, 08:01 AM

I doubt it is a 2ndary mutation. He probably just has more control over his powers.

The Lucky One

03-24-2005, 08:08 AM

The problem with that is "does a virus count as 'damage'?". I wouldn't try it if I were him (at least as long as he has no idea where his dupes come from and go to.)

Right, exactly. For instance, he's mentioned that reabsorbing a drunken dupe doesn't put the actual alcohol in his system -- which would speak against the virus argument -- but that he does gain their impaired mental state. I'd say it's still open to exploration and interpretation.

(The reason I say potential secondary mutation is that in the past, he has reabsorbed damage from dupes, notably in the Fallen Angels miniseries. The argument against that is that that wasn't actually Jamie in FA, but a rogue, independent dupe. But that was during the time when he was written as every dupe being equal to the original, not one "main" Jamie and a bunch of little helpers.)

-D

Alpha to Omega

03-24-2005, 04:04 PM

Cassandra Nova was Xavier's twin. The Shi'ar have a legend about something called a Mummundrai (or something like that- stupid Shi'ar spellings). Basically it's your opposite number that you meet and battle before your born. Kinda like the idea of Nemesis. Cassandra tried to kill Xavier in the womb but Xavier killed her instead.

How does that fit in with Beast describing her as the next step in evolution after mutants?

The Lucky One

03-24-2005, 04:43 PM

How does that fit in with Beast describing her as the next step in evolution after mutants?

Someone said Nova and he thought they meant "Neo." Honest mistake.

-D

Faust451

03-24-2005, 05:44 PM

After Hulk Annual #7, X-Factor #13-14, and those two issues of Uncanny, what were all of Mastermolds appearances?

Is Simon Trask still alive?

DDM

03-24-2005, 05:48 PM

After Hulk Annual #7, X-Factor #13-14, and those two issues of Uncanny, what were all of Mastermolds appearances?

Is Simon Trask still alive?

The Master Mold II's other appearances are Power Pack #36, Uncanny X-Men #246-247 (destroyed in this issue along with Nimrod).

Faust451

03-24-2005, 05:49 PM

The Master Mold II's other appearances are Power Pack #36, Uncanny X-Men #246-247 (destroyed in this issue along with Nimrod).

Damn. I hopping for more of a Mold fix. Sigh...

What about Simon Trask?

nubly

03-24-2005, 06:59 PM

why are gradyon creed and captain britain not considered to be mutants? i thought once one had the x-gene, all their offspring/younger siblings had it as well

Tenebrae

03-24-2005, 07:35 PM

why are gradyon creed and captain britain not considered to be mutants? i thought once one had the x-gene, all their offspring/younger siblings had it as well

As far as I know, that's not the case. In fact, I think sometimes X-genes cancel each other out. Its far more common for children of mutants to also be mutants, but there are quite a few cases of human offspring, such as Graydon Creed, as you mentioned, and Quicksilver's daughter Luna. As for Captain Britain, I think he's older than Betsy (though I might be wrong), and the gene is passed down by a parent rather than a sibling anyway. Jean's sister was human too, for example.

Tobias March

03-24-2005, 07:38 PM

Don't think so. Marvel Mutation is loosely defined as a state of evolutionary transition. It seems pretty random whose geno-types are activated. Anyway...the Braddocks are a special case, coming from 'Otherworld', as they do.

The Lucky One

03-24-2005, 07:55 PM

why are gradyon creed and captain britain not considered to be mutants? i thought once one had the x-gene, all their offspring/younger siblings had it as well

Nope... mutants can have human children, as with Graydon. As for Captain Britain, his father isn't a mutant, he's from Otherworld. Cap B's powers stem from his Otherworld heritage, as very well might Psylocke's (meaning she wouldn't be a mutant either).

-D

Corey Dreher

03-24-2005, 08:09 PM

Whats up with Feral? Okay she joins X-Force and is good. Then attacks Sam. I think is good. Attacks Syrin then becomes good?

And what are Syrin's power/s?

Tenebrae

03-24-2005, 08:14 PM

Whats up with Feral? Okay she joins X-Force and is good. Then attacks Sam. I think is good. Attacks Syrin then becomes good?

And what are Syrin's power/s?

Feral eventually left X-Force to join Stryfe's terrorist group, the Mutant Liberation Front. She remained after Reignfire took over leadership of the team. After the MLF folded, she hooked up briefly with the New Hellions, alongside folks such as Magma and Tarot. Following that, she seemed to turn back to the side of good, joining X-Corps. She was active in the Mumbai based X-Corps branch, alongside her sister Thornn and her former X-Force teammate Proudstar.

Siryn possesses a sonic scream similar to that of her father, Banshee.

fishtaco

03-24-2005, 08:38 PM

That whole feral with X-Corps thing was crap. Fighting alongside Proudstar? When Feral cut Siryn's throat in X-Force 90 (as a New Hellion), Proudstar went ballistic on her. He tried to kill her. Now they are fighting side by side? Thats one reason I dont like Morrison.

The New Hellions were King Bedlam*, Tarot, Magma, Feral, Switch, Paradigm, and Jesse Bedlam joined for like an issue but then sided with X-Force. In his case, water is thicker than blood.

Faust451

03-24-2005, 09:08 PM

Dude, his name is Warpath.

Alpha to Omega

03-24-2005, 09:09 PM

As far as I know, that's not the case. In fact, I think sometimes X-genes cancel each other out. Its far more common for children of mutants to also be mutants, but there are quite a few cases of human offspring, such as Graydon Creed, as you mentioned, and Quicksilver's daughter Luna. As for Captain Britain, I think he's older than Betsy (though I might be wrong), and the gene is passed down by a parent rather than a sibling anyway. Jean's sister was human too, for example.

IIRC weren't Betsy and Brian twins?

Doom Hammer

03-24-2005, 09:09 PM

Dude, his name is Warpath.

Dude, his name is also Proudstar.

mattbib

03-24-2005, 10:44 PM

...as very well might Psylocke's (meaning she wouldn't be a mutant either).
I'm pretty sure Betsy's been identified as a mutant by various sources (including Sentinels), so she's definitely a mutant, but that doesn't mean she's not sporting magical influence also (ala Scarlet Witch)...and of course there's still the question of the Crimson Dawn factor, which DDM has clarified has somehow seemed to transfer to Rachel.

Grendel0606

03-25-2005, 01:04 AM

IIRC weren't Betsy and Brian twins?
Xes, they are twins and have one older brother (Jamie)

Dizzy D

03-25-2005, 02:42 AM

After Hulk Annual #7, X-Factor #13-14, and those two issues of Uncanny, what were all of Mastermolds appearances?

Is Simon Trask still alive?

Go to http://www.chronologyproject.com/m.htm

for Master Mold appearances (UX=Uncanny X-men, XF=X-factor, PP=Peter Parker, S-H2: She-Hulk vol2, M/CP; Marvel Comics Presents, MM: Machine Man) I believe the M/CP appearances of Cyclops vs. Master Mold also have been collected.

MASTER MOLD II
XF 13
XF 14
PP 36
S-H2 30
M/CP 17/4-BTS
M/CP 18
M/CP 19
M/CP 20
M/CP 21
M/CP 22
M/CP 23
M/CP 24
UX 246
UX 247
See Bastion

MASTER MOLD III
MM '98-FB
{C2 '98}
MM '98

fishtaco

03-25-2005, 09:02 AM

Dude, his name is Warpath.
nope. Not anymore. He doesnt have a codename now. After the events of
X-Force #'s 73-74, Proudstar in X-Force #75 declared that he doesnt want to use that codename anymore, because now that he knows what really happened to Camp Verde, he doesnt want to be defined by rage anymore by his codename. Warpath is a violent, name, isnt it? IMO, Warpath was a great codename, but I found the scene when he was talking to Dani Moonstar while meditating very touching and well written, so I respect the fact that the codename is no longer used. He even got a little offended when Jesse Bedlam called him Warpath in X-Force #82. :)

Faust451

03-25-2005, 11:47 AM

Go to http://www.chronologyproject.com/m.htm

for Master Mold appearances (UX=Uncanny X-men, XF=X-factor, PP=Peter Parker, S-H2: She-Hulk vol2, M/CP; Marvel Comics Presents, MM: Machine Man) I believe the M/CP appearances of Cyclops vs. Master Mold also have been collected.

MASTER MOLD II
XF 13
XF 14
PP 36
S-H2 30
M/CP 17/4-BTS
M/CP 18
M/CP 19
M/CP 20
M/CP 21
M/CP 22
M/CP 23
M/CP 24
UX 246
UX 247
See Bastion

MASTER MOLD III
MM '98-FB
{C2 '98}
MM '98

Much thanks mein fruend!

Faust451

03-25-2005, 11:47 AM

nope. Not anymore. He doesnt have a codename now. After the events of
X-Force #'s 73-74, Proudstar in X-Force #75 declared that he doesnt want to use that codename anymore, because now that he knows what really happened to Camp Verde, he doesnt want to be defined by rage anymore by his codename. Warpath is a violent, name, isnt it? IMO, Warpath was a great codename, but I found the scene when he was talking to Dani Moonstar while meditating very touching and well written, so I respect the fact that the codename is no longer used. He even got a little offended when Jesse Bedlam called him Warpath in X-Force #82. :)

Sigh...That's stupid. Well, as a protest, I'm going to keep calling him Warpath.

Faust451

03-25-2005, 11:54 AM

Does anyone know the details of the Sentinel story in that one issue of Alpha Flight and New Mutants #48?

mattbib

03-25-2005, 11:57 AM

Does anyone know the details of the Sentinel story in that one issue of Alpha Flight and New Mutants #48?
Alpha Flight #43 (from www.uncannyxmen.net (http://www.uncannyxmen.net))
Mesmero breaks free from the institution he is being held in and flees to Canada, but not without being traced by Sentinels from Interdefense, a new project owned by Sebastian Shaw. Alpha Flight are having trouble dealing with their teammate, Box, who has gone quite mad as he is trapped inside his armor. Everyone tries to stop him, until he is brought to the New Life Clinic, a private hospital owned by Jeffries’ formerly-mad brother, Lionel, where they are introduced to his new intern also, and Box reluctantly agrees to the treatment Dr. Jeffries will give him, but only so he can become a man again for Aurora. Alpha learn of something weird going on at the Expo ’86 and make their way there, where they find Mesmero holding several humans hostage, and the Sentinels unable to stop him or else he will harm the humans. Alpha engage both the Sentinels and Mesmero, and to Northstar’s surprise, the Sentinels do not detect him as a mutant. Alpha begins to fall; though several of the Sentinels do, too. When Jeffries destroys the final Sentinel, the Purple Girl faces off against Mesmero, and to her surprise, she is more powerful than him, and frees the hostages, while he is taken away by the authorities, however not before Judd is seriously injured, and Heather realizes she may have feelings for Jeffries.

New Mutants #48 (from www.chronology.net (http://www.chronology.net))
Using Illyana's transporting power to flee from Magus, the New Mutants are separated in space and time. Rahne, Roberto, Amara, and Shan wind up in Westchester in the future (as in Days of Future Past) and are set upon by Sentinels. The future Sam and Dani come to their rescue and then describe to them how the Sentinels killed mutants and then superheroes, except for the ones evacuated to Lila's Dyson sphere.

In the present, Magneto uses widget devices to tidy up the estate, preparing for when the New Mutants return. (He thinks they died when a plasma bolt wiped clean the Morlock tunnels: Thor 374).

In the future, the Sentinels capture Lila, so the mutants go to her rescue, fighting in a ruined Manhattan, finally freeing her.

Lila, Sam, and Dani escape to the Dyson sphere, leaving the rest behind to wait for Illyana to show up. Amara makes a volcano out of the Sentinel's Manhattan.

Faust451

03-25-2005, 12:06 PM

Oh...not what I was expecting.

Thanks for telling me though!

But is Simon Trask still alive?

mattbib

03-25-2005, 12:17 PM

But is Simon Trask still alive?Probably not; he was seemingly killed in an explosion in Punisher Vol.3 #16.

Faust451

03-25-2005, 12:24 PM

People in the Trask family aren't that lucky it seems like.

Thanks

Faust451

03-25-2005, 03:49 PM

Who is Noah DuBois and what can he do?

What are his appearances, minus Uncanny #299?

mattbib

03-26-2005, 12:58 AM

Who is Noah DuBois and what can he do?

What are his appearances, minus Uncanny #299?Check out http://www.chronologyproject.com for such questions. :)

fishtaco

03-26-2005, 10:00 AM

Grendel0606

03-26-2005, 10:55 AM

On uncannymen.net, it says that Shard's first appearance is in Uncanny X-men 309 in the Cerebro Files section. That is, well, wrong. I have Uncanny 309, and the only characters in it are Xavier, Jean, and Magneto in Xavier's head kinda.

What issue did Shard really first appear in? Cause I think I have her first. In
X-Factor 117, when Wildchild gets thrown by a sentinel into Forge's lab, Shard as her hologram form pops up and says, "Hi! I'm Shard!". Was that her first appearance?

Going by memory here, so I am not 100% sure. She was mentioned first around Uncanny 301 when Fitzroy ranted that Bishop's sister had killed his mom.
Then we saw her in Uncanny X-Men annual 17, but that was basically a MAstermind induced illsusion.
Bishop had Shard's personality downloaded into a hologram (or something like that )a and that hologram with Shard's personality (which is all that was left of the true Shard) we first saw in the first Bishop LS. Her X-FActor appearances came much later.

Adem

03-26-2005, 01:49 PM

During what issues of any x title was Longshot with the X-Men?

mattbib

03-26-2005, 01:50 PM

During what issues of any x title was Longshot with the X-Men?All of the issues in which Longshot appeared can be found here (http://www.chronologyproject.com/l.htm).

fishtaco

03-26-2005, 01:51 PM

During what issues of any x title was Longshot with the X-Men?
someone actually asked this recently. He joined in Uncanny X-men annual 10, and then: Uncanny X-men #'s 215-448. :)

Adem

03-26-2005, 02:01 PM

Thanks mattbib and fishtaco. :)

Would that happen to be collected in any TPB?

DDM

03-26-2005, 02:36 PM

Thanks mattbib and fishtaco. :)

Would that happen to be collected in any TPB?

Yes, Uncanny X-Men Annual #10 is collected in the Marvel Visionaries: Arthur Adams TPB or X-Men: The Danger Room TPB.

DDM

03-26-2005, 02:38 PM

someone actually asked this recently. He joined in Uncanny X-men annual 10, and then: Uncanny X-men #'s 215-448. :)

Longshot was an X-Man from Uncanny X-Men Annual #10 (joins the team), 11, 12, 13, Uncanny X-Men #215-248

Adem

03-26-2005, 02:41 PM

Thanks DDM :D .

Corey Dreher

03-26-2005, 03:26 PM

What is Besty's new power excatly? I'm thinking its a cross from Brusier from the Runaways but I dunno.

DDM

03-26-2005, 03:31 PM

What is Besty's new power excatly? I'm thinking its a cross from Brusier from the Runaways but I dunno.

Betsy new power is old since her telekinesis was long established in X-Men #100 (second series); however, her so-called "new" ability is Betsy subconscously focused her telekinesis into superhuman strength to take out Rachel Grey in Uncanny X-Men #457. Betsy can also manifest a telekinetic katanna. Obviously, Claremont is not through with Betsy's powers.

Luigi

03-26-2005, 11:43 PM

I'm trying to find it but what issue was the first issue when Colossus and Wolverine did that team-up thing where Colossus throws Wolverine?

Sean Whitmore

03-26-2005, 11:51 PM

Well, a variation on it was used as early as Uncanny #103. The X-Men had to get to the top of Black Tom's castle, so Storm flies right up, leaving the other behind. Wolverine calls her a "dumb broad", and a pissed off Colossus grabs Wolvie by the scruff of the neck and throws him to the top of the castle.

Not QUITE the same, but it probably planted the seed for the idea. :)

SEAN

Kirayoshi

03-27-2005, 01:09 AM

I have a question. How often has Colossus done the ol' Fastball Special with teammates other than Wolverine? I seem to recall he fastballed Nightcrawler and Kitty on more than one occasion. Fastballing Kitty works especially well against Sentinels and other big robots; Peter aims Kitty toward the CPU and she phases through it, shorting it out.

I also remember an old issue of Marvel Team-Up where Spider-Man fastballed Kitty to save some kids Kitty was babysitting from the Morlocks. Kind of funny actually.

fishtaco

03-27-2005, 09:02 AM

I'm trying to find it but what issue was the first issue when Colossus and Wolverine did that team-up thing where Colossus throws Wolverine?
you mean a fast ball special? The first fast ball special was in Uncanny X-men 103.

Does anyone remember the Proudstar/Moonstar fast ball special?

And then the AOA Strong Guy and AOA Jubilee one?

DDM

03-27-2005, 09:06 AM

I have a question. How often has Colossus done the ol' Fastball Special with teammates other than Wolverine?

Wolverine threw Colossus in Uncanny X-Men #137 since the Blue Area of the Moon has slightly lighter gravity when Jean Grey became Phoenix again. Wolverine was afraid he would hold back & not be able to kill Jean Grey. Colossus did knock Phoenix to her senses, but he did no real damage. Of course, Colossus held back on his punch too. It did not stop Phoenix's transformation into Dark Phoenix though.

nubly

03-30-2005, 05:56 PM

i have a few questions about opal tanaka's child. what is the gender, who is the father, is it a mutant, and which issue was this revealed?

mattbib

03-30-2005, 07:30 PM

i have a few questions about opal tanaka's child. what is the gender, who is the father, is it a mutant, and which issue was this revealed?Opal has a son, Robert, fathered by a European co-worker, who didn't demonstrate any physical mutation. It was revealed in Iceman (2nd Series) #4.

Crimson

03-31-2005, 12:22 AM

you mean a fast ball special? The first fast ball special was in Uncanny X-men 103.

Does anyone remember the Proudstar/Moonstar fast ball special?

And then the AOA Strong Guy and AOA Jubilee one?

Colossus and Nightcrawler did one in the early Claremont days... somewhere in the first 50 issues or so. Can anyone narrow it down? The number slips my mind

Doom Hammer

03-31-2005, 08:54 PM

Was Deadpool associated with Frank Tieri's Weapon X series? I know Frank wrote the Deadpool: Agent of Weapon X arc in Deadpool's monthly, but did he actually appear in Weapon X?

mattbib

03-31-2005, 09:14 PM

Was Deadpool associated with Frank Tieri's Weapon X series? I know Frank wrote the Deadpool: Agent of Weapon X arc in Deadpool's monthly, but did he actually appear in Weapon X?No, Deadpool wasn't in the recent Weapon X seriers.

Doom Hammer

03-31-2005, 09:16 PM

No, Deadpool wasn't in the recent Weapon X seriers.

*Sigh* I thought not.

Thanks, Matt.

fishtaco

04-10-2005, 05:35 PM

Can I have some info on Lian Shen?

Ryan K

04-10-2005, 05:45 PM

DDM

04-10-2005, 06:19 PM

Just out of curiousity, does anybody know why Sunfire was only on the team for GS X-Men #1. When Claremont took over with Uncanny #94, did he just not want Sunfire, or was it always planned that Sunfire wouldn't be permanent.

Sunfire is very arrogant & only serves Japan; therefore, he is very much in character to reject the X-Men after the emergency was over. When Sunfire is written out in Uncanny X-Men #94, Len Wein is responsible--not Claremont. Claremont just wrote the dialogue from Wein's plot. Chris Claremont took over as writer in Uncanny X-Men #96.

DDM

04-10-2005, 06:20 PM

Can I have some info on Lian Shen?

No much is known about her before she was corrupted by the Shadow King.

spoon_jenkins

04-10-2005, 09:46 PM

Can I have some info on Lian Shen?
She was a doctor at a Cairo, Illinois hospital where Storm was brought when she was temporarily de-aged. The Shadow King took over Dr. Shen when he was trying to get Storm. I think that's the whole book on Lian Shen.

spoon_jenkins

04-10-2005, 09:53 PM

Just out of curiousity, does anybody know why Sunfire was only on the team for GS X-Men #1. When Claremont took over with Uncanny #94, did he just not want Sunfire, or was it always planned that Sunfire wouldn't be permanent.
Here's something (http://www.comixfan.com/xfan/forums/archive/index.php/t-8889.html) posted by Dave Cockrum online that explains Sunfire's short stint:
The original plot for GSX#1 was that the menace was to be an entrance exam, to see who was good enough to be a new X-Man. Banshee and Sunfire were picked up because we felt there should be a couple of flunkers. Thunderbird was created because we felt there should be a 'new' flunker too. But then we dropped the entrance exam bit, and we decided we liked Banshee and Thunderbird, and we kept 'em. Unfortunately, we didn't like Thunderbird enough, and we offed him.

Atomic Mongoose

04-10-2005, 11:52 PM

I've always wondered if back in 1993, before the original AOA crossover (and before "the internet" as a concept became mainstream), was it known to the public that the AOA was only going to last about 6 months? Like, y'know, during the middle of the crossover, did a popcultureshock-type preview come out for X-Men: Prime, and show that eventually everything was going to go back to normal? Or was fan reaction more like "Ohmahgawd, this isn't just a temporary storyline! The X-Universe is changing FOREVER!!!"??

And while we're on the topic of AOA, is it me, or do all the titles during that time come across as very well thought out and produced, except Amazing X-Men? Even though Amazing X-Men #4 served as kinda the prelude to X-Men: Omega, the series as a whole just comes across as a rush-job and afterthought, compared to the rest of the titles. The cast lacks chemistry and seems like "the leftovers no one else wanted to write"; the team's mission is kind of blah compared to the others'... kinda like "well shit, we have to find something for these guys to do for 4 issues"; and the art is gawdawful. I mean seriously... Andy Kubert's work on Amazing X-Men, compared to Joe Mad's on Astonishing X-Men (and every other title for that matter) just looks crappy and rushed. Anybody else think the same?

Sanagi

04-11-2005, 01:26 AM

I remember being aware that AOA was only running for four issues of each title plus the special alpha and omega issues, but I don't recall where I heard that.

Tenebrae

04-11-2005, 09:09 AM

I remember not being aware at all that it wasn't permanent, but assuming everything would switch back at some point. I'm fairly sure, once it actually started, it was made clear that it wasn't forever too.

Siddon

04-14-2005, 10:41 PM

Marvel Masterworks volume 5 The X-men (reprints 43-53) is coming out in July, did Volume 4 come out, and when was it?

PhoenixBoyX

04-15-2005, 02:53 PM

Hey there all...
Okay, so in X-Force 2, Black Tom Cassady needs a big portal machine to get Juggernaut back from some alternate dimension....
Where was he? When did he go there? Why? Thanks!
-Nick

DDM

04-15-2005, 05:04 PM

Hey there all...
Okay, so in X-Force 2, Black Tom Cassady needs a big portal machine to get Juggernaut back from some alternate dimension....
Where was he? When did he go there? Why? Thanks!
-Nick

Juggernaut gock sucked into Chuck Austen's sordid, dirty world of DD-breasts & female victims obsessed with men.

PhoenixBoyX

04-15-2005, 05:40 PM

Juggernaut gock sucked into Chuck Austen's sordid, dirty world of DD-breasts & female victims obsessed with men.
I wasn't clear-my fault-lol. This was X-Force Vol 1, issue 2. Was Sept or August 1991. Sorry!
-Nick

fishtaco

04-15-2005, 05:57 PM

Not sure. Two issues later, Deadpool beat them up and handed them over to Tolliver (I loved Tolliver). I believe they were at the World Trade Center, which they were about to attack . Makes me wonder who Rob Liefeld was in touch with back then (just kidding). :p

nubly

04-15-2005, 05:58 PM

deadpool didnt beat them up. he found them beaten up

fishtaco

04-15-2005, 06:01 PM

deadpool didnt beat them up. he found them beaten upoh. Who jumped them, then? I thought it would be Wade because it was his job to capture them for Tolliver.

nubly

04-15-2005, 06:20 PM

i would need to reread it but i think it was x-force, spider-man and siryn

mattbib

04-15-2005, 06:36 PM

Hey there all...
Okay, so in X-Force 2, Black Tom Cassady needs a big portal machine to get Juggernaut back from some alternate dimension....
Where was he? When did he go there? Why? Thanks!
-NickWasn't that when he was in the Ultraverse, part of the Exiles team with other 616 characters Siena Blaze and Reaper?

streator

04-15-2005, 07:03 PM

Wasn't that when he was in the Ultraverse, part of the Exiles team with other 616 characters Siena Blaze and Reaper?
no, that wasnt until 95 or 96. it doesnt mention in the issue where juggernaut was.

mattbib

04-15-2005, 10:50 PM

no, that wasnt until 95 or 96. it doesnt mention in the issue where juggernaut was.Okay then. It turns out Juggernaut was lost in space. His last appearance before X-Force #2 was Thor #429.

from Jay's Comic Book Compendium (http://www.geocities.com/Area51/Rampart/1434/)
Thor and Excalibur learn that they are the captives of the Juggernaut who has set himself up as the dictator of an alien world. However, a band of rebels, the royalty of the monarchy Juggernaut overthrew, free them. Thor goes head-to-head against the Juggernaut and gives him a good beating! Juggernaut is once again exiled into space. Meanwhile back on Earth, Code Blue and the Ghost Rider manage to give the Wrecking Crew a hard time.

milhouse123321

04-15-2005, 10:59 PM

I was reading some of my issues of X-Men and wondered what happened at the end of The Hunt For Xavier.
I have issue 5 and a heap of them are shot and presumed dead.
So what happened?

Also, what was 616 Mimic's last appearance?
Does it seem like he'll be back anytime soon?
Thanks heaps guys

mattbib

04-15-2005, 11:06 PM

I was reading some of my issues of X-Men and wondered what happened at the end of The Hunt For Xavier.
I have issue 5 and a heap of them are shot and presumed dead.
So what happened?
X-Men #84 was the conclusion. Here's a synopsis (http://www.uncannyxmen.net/db/issues/showquestion.asp?fldAuto=1266).
Also, what was 616 Mimic's last appearance?
Does it seem like he'll be back anytime soon?
I believe Mimic last appeared in Uncanny X-Men #379. I don't see why anyone would use him anytime soon.

PhoenixBoyX

04-16-2005, 03:46 PM

Okay then. It turns out Juggernaut was lost in space. His last appearance before X-Force #2 was Thor #429.

from Jay's Comic Book Compendium (http://www.geocities.com/Area51/Rampart/1434/)
Thor and Excalibur learn that they are the captives of the Juggernaut who has set himself up as the dictator of an alien world. However, a band of rebels, the royalty of the monarchy Juggernaut overthrew, free them. Thor goes head-to-head against the Juggernaut and gives him a good beating! Juggernaut is once again exiled into space. Meanwhile back on Earth, Code Blue and the Ghost Rider manage to give the Wrecking Crew a hard time.
Thanks everyone for your help and Matt for finding the answer!
-Nick

fishtaco

04-16-2005, 10:40 PM

Who were the members of the New Mutants that became X-men when the normal X-men (Magneto, Storm, Nightcrawler, Shadowcat, Wolverine, Colossus) were turned into X-babies?

Who was on the Muir Island roster that Moira created after the normal X-men (Havok, Storm, Dazzler, Rogue, Colossus, Psylocke) all went through the Siege Perilious?

thanks.

mattbib

04-17-2005, 12:23 AM

Who were the members of the New Mutants that became X-men when the normal X-men (Magneto, Storm, Nightcrawler, Shadowcat, Wolverine, Colossus) were turned into X-babies?
Cypher
Sunspot
Magik
Warlock
Mirage
Cannonball
Magma
Wolfsbane
Karma
Who was on the Muir Island roster that Moira created after the normal X-men (Havok, Storm, Dazzler, Rogue, Colossus, Psylocke) all went through the Siege Perilious?
Moria's X-Men consisted of:
Alysande Stuart
Amanda Sefton
Banshee
Callisto
Forge
Healer
Legion (sort of)
Polaris
Sharon Friedlander
Sunder
Tom Corsi[/QUOTE]

streator

04-17-2005, 10:03 AM

Cypher
Sunspot
Magik
Warlock
Mirage
Cannonball
Magma
Wolfsbane
Karma
Moria's X-Men consisted of:
Alysande Stuart
Amanda Sefton
Banshee
Callisto
Forge
Healer
Legion (sort of)
Polaris
Sharon Friedlander
Sunder
Tom Corsi[/QUOTE]
wasnt madrox a part of moira's team as well? i thought i remember him being around then.

nubly

04-17-2005, 10:38 AM

wasnt madrox a part of moira's team as well? i thought i remember him being around then.[/QUOTE]

madrox and siryn showed up in the kings of pain annual crossover as islander x-men

Beast

04-17-2005, 02:23 PM

Probably not the best place to place it, but it is a question. Can someone scan and post a picture of Beast from X-Men: The End. Preferrably a good one from the first book, and not one from the most recent one. :)

mgs

04-17-2005, 02:29 PM

do any hardcores think that there will be a time in the future (irl) where xavier will really NOT be the leader anymore?

Crimson

04-17-2005, 02:37 PM

do any hardcores think that there will be a time in the future (irl) where xavier will really NOT be the leader anymore?

He's not the leader now really... but no, unless he's dead (and even then he'd most likley come back) he will always be looked up to by X-Men and be looked at as the leader by X-Fans IMO.

The Lucky One

04-17-2005, 08:44 PM

wasnt madrox a part of moira's team as well? i thought i remember him being around then.

He was on Muir Island in time to be taken over by the Shadow King in the Muir Island Saga -- and as Nubly mentioned, before that was in the Kings of Pain annuals -- but I don't think he was on the Muir Island X-Men with Legion and Sunder and all. I might be totally mistaken about that, though.

-D

The Lucky One

04-17-2005, 08:47 PM

Okay, my questions:

1) Anyone know where the Uncanny X-Sprites webcomic went to? Did it get shut down, or just relocated?

2) I've always wondered why Claremont left the New Mutants back with issue #53. It was years before he would leave the X-Books in general, and he even came back for two later issues of NM, but that was the beginning of the downward spiral for that book. Anybody know why he left?

-D

streator

04-17-2005, 09:05 PM

Okay, my questions:

1) Anyone know where the Uncanny X-Sprites webcomic went to? Did it get shut down, or just relocated?
-D
as far as i know, ryan (the creator) decided to take a break.

Grendel0606

04-17-2005, 11:37 PM

The Lucky One

04-17-2005, 11:39 PM

as far as i know, ryan (the creator) decided to take a break.

But even the old strips are gone. Where'm I going to get my Longshot sprite now?!
:(

-D

fnhspidey

04-18-2005, 12:02 AM

My only question is why beast now has a dogface.

streator

04-18-2005, 12:11 AM

But even the old strips are gone. Where'm I going to get my Longshot sprite now?!
:(

-D
not sure if you have seen this link or not
http://www.uncannyx-sprites.net/
hasnt been updated since 5/04 according to the site.
all the strips are there.

The Fury

04-18-2005, 02:31 AM

My only question is why beast now has a dogface.
Catface. But he evolved a bit. Crappily I might add. At the start of Morrison's New X-men. He had a more a even more (Beauty and the) Beast look back then, but is a bit more human like now. If it looks like a dog then Cassady is drawing him wrong.

DDM

04-18-2005, 09:02 AM

2) I've always wondered why Claremont left the New Mutants back with issue #53. It was years before he would leave the X-Books in general, and he even came back for two later issues of NM, but that was the beginning of the downward spiral for that book. Anybody know why he left?

-D

Chris Claremont quit The New Mutants to write his first novel.

spoon_jenkins

04-23-2005, 01:48 PM

Can someone explain the nature, source, etc. of Polaris's current mental/emotional problems? I stopping reading X-Factor regularly around #100 and only read a little bit of pre-Reload Chuck Austen writing (I also browsed a bit of the TPBs in stores). I know she was a villain in some late X-Factor issues and a wedding with Alex fell through. Is there more to it than that?

Sabre

04-23-2005, 01:57 PM

She was on Genosha when it was destroyed by Sentinels, which was traumatic enough. Then she ended up haunted by magnetic 'ghosts' in the time she spent there after the destruction. That made her pretty bonkers, but Havok didn't really help by falling in love with Nurse Annie and leaving Polaris at the altar (hence the wedding rampage).

fishtaco

04-23-2005, 04:28 PM

Furthermore, she was kept under guard at the mansion for a short time, then rejoined the team when the Away X-men went to Kentucky to help out Husk and Cannonball's family. Since then, she has been a member of the Away Team (now led by Havok). She doesnt talk to Havok much, but Iceman is getting close to her again...

Ryan K

04-23-2005, 10:45 PM

nubly

04-23-2005, 11:00 PM

Anyone remember that whole Phoenix: Ressurection stuff that Marvel and
alibu published in the mid 90's?

1) Can someone give me a checklist of the issues that were involved in that. Wasn't there a mini, some one shots, and some tie in issues? I can't remember.

2) This is probably a stupid question. But is the story in any way part of X-Men continuity?

Thanks for any and all help.

Prime #2
Nightmant #2
Siren #2
Mantra #2
Exiles #2
Rune #2
UltraForce #2
The Phoenix Resurrection Genesis #1
The Phoenix Resurrection Revelations #1
The Phoenix Resurrection #0
The Phoenix Resurrection Aftermath #1

the #2 issues were just a 4 (or so) page story on the other side of the books called "red shift". they were all collected together in phoenix resurrection #0. they started out as being in x-men continuity. but marvel later changed their minds and decided to make it out of regular continuity

Ryan K

04-24-2005, 10:57 AM

Prime #2
Nightmant #2
Siren #2
Mantra #2
Exiles #2
Rune #2
UltraForce #2
The Phoenix Resurrection Genesis #1
The Phoenix Resurrection Revelations #1
The Phoenix Resurrection #0
The Phoenix Resurrection Aftermath #1

the #2 issues were just a 4 (or so) page story on the other side of the books called "red shift". they were all collected together in phoenix resurrection #0. they started out as being in x-men continuity. but marvel later changed their minds and decided to make it out of regular continuity

Thank you very much nubly!

nubly

04-25-2005, 11:45 AM

no problem ^

what was the overall reaction to origin? when the third issue came out, i had just gotten back into comics. i didnt frequent any boards back then . i was just curious if fans liked or disliked how marvel wrote logan's origin

Ryan K

04-25-2005, 12:01 PM

Anybody know how many issues X-Nation 2099 lasted? Any annuals, specials, or one-shots?

Dizzy D

04-25-2005, 12:16 PM

Anybody know how many issues X-Nation 2099 lasted? Any annuals, specials, or one-shots?

6 issues plus the oneshots 2099 Genesis where they played a part. And some members played a part in 2099: world of tomorrow. I don't think they had any part in any other 2099 oneshot.

nubly

04-25-2005, 12:16 PM

Anybody know how many issues X-Nation 2099 lasted? Any annuals, specials, or one-shots?

i loved this series! it only lasted six issues with no one-shots or annuals. there was a type of cross-over which lead into x-nation running on x-men #26-30 and doom #37-38. its not required reading for x-nation though. also, if i recall correctly, 2099 genesis was the first appearance of x-nation. though they only showed up in a few shadowed panels. but the six issues, along with any other 2099 titles that ended with x-nation, led into the 8 issue 2099 world of tomorrow series.

kind of out of topic but does anyone know what happend to that cable 2099 and daredevil 2099 that were introduced in 2099 genesis? i know they were not given those names but it was hinted in being them

edit: oops, dizzy d beat me to it

Ryan K

04-25-2005, 12:20 PM

Thanks Dizzy D and nubly!

Anon_me

04-25-2005, 06:57 PM

DDM

04-25-2005, 07:03 PM

Here's a query...how old is Psylocke compared to the other X-men? I've always had the impression that she's quite a bit older than the others. And while we're here, how old is Sage versus the others? Tks.

Psylocke & Captain Britain, her twin brother, are in their 30's (Jamie Braddock is older than either of them by at least a decade). Sage is the also about 30.

Ryan K

04-25-2005, 08:14 PM

Follow up Question about X-Nation 2099.

Was it intended as an ongoing series and just got cancelled after 6 issues or was it intended as a 6 issue mini? Just curious.

Stagier

04-25-2005, 08:58 PM

xnation was intended to be ongoing if i remember correctly, with cerebra even going over and over seeing the new kids, think gen x 2099 before there was gen x, i thought it was a great book, and like all the 2099s got canned and merged into one book and then that got canned too.

fishtaco

04-26-2005, 06:42 AM

Psylocke & Captain Britain, her twin brother, are in their 30's (Jamie Braddock is older than either of them by at least a decade). Sage is the also about 30.
Sage is around 30? In X-Treme X-men #3, Sage says that her and Beast are the same age. So Beast is about 30, then? Age never makes sense in comics.

The Lucky One

04-26-2005, 07:27 AM

Sage is around 30? In X-Treme X-men #3, Sage says that her and Beast are the same age. So Beast is about 30, then? Age never makes sense in comics.

Beast is just about 30, yes; in fact, he claimed in one issue that he had actually turned 30 already, though that may be a continuity goof. Here's the golden rule for figuring out the ages of Marvel characters since the Silver Age- 4 of our years = 1 Marvel year. The Fantastic Four were created in 1963, so they've been around 42 of our years, or 10.5 of their own. The X-Men appeared soon after, so the original class is about 10 years older than they were when they appeared. (Iceman is 25, Hank is 29 or 30, the rest are 26-28.)

The rest can be figured out fairly easily through the same formula. Nightcrawler turned 21 in the late 70s/early 80s in an annual, so he's about 26 now. Colossus was about 19 in 1984 (as mentioned in an issue), so he's 24 or so now. Kitty was 13.5 when she first appeared in, what, '81? So she's 19 or 20 now. Rogue was 17 when she first joined, so she's about 22-23 now. Most of the rest can be figured out the same way.

It's not a perfect formula, and many people will still argue it, but it's always worked well for me.

-D

The Fury

04-26-2005, 07:28 AM

Psylocke & Captain Britain, her twin brother, are in their 30's (Jamie Braddock is older than either of them by at least a decade). Sage is the also about 30.
Really? I thought they were about was about 28-29, not in 30's. As I saw Jamie (as you said at least a decade older) in his Late 30's.

But as Fishy said above, and I still agree Age makes no sense adn we really shouldn't think about it. Just accept they are there.

Grendel0606

04-26-2005, 09:33 AM

Really? I thought they were about was about 28-29, not in 30's. As I saw Jamie (as you said at least a decade older) in his Late 30's.

But as Fishy said above, and I still agree Age makes no sense adn we really shouldn't think about it. Just accept they are there.
They were given pretty clear ages during the second captain Britain series (in their late twenties), so late twenties to 30 should have been betsy's age when she joined the team. Of course, we alos had numerous references that the originals were in their mid twenties during the Claremont /byrne run and earleir - and guess what: they are still considered to be twentyish.

Anon_me

04-26-2005, 10:39 PM

mattbib

04-26-2005, 10:49 PM

Got another Psylocke question. Does she (in her original body) posses greater than normal strength (seem to recall some reference to this)? And would she be classified as a mutant human, given that her parents are from Otherworld?AFAIK she only had superhuman strength when she wore the Captain Britain uniform.

Her father is from Otherworld but her mother is from Earth. She's been identified as having the mutant gene by enough sources (Sentinels, etc.) so clearly she is a mutant, but obviously the magical nature of her Otherworld heritage affected or catalyzed this, such as probably causing her precognitive abilities.

Stagier

04-27-2005, 12:22 AM

i always thought that she was old 30 ish when she first appereared, drawn by davis, but that was when there was a romance going btwn her and doug, so she couldn't have been that old, or she was pulling a mrs robinson. as kwannon, she seemed to lose a few years, or it could just have been all that soy. i say late 20's
kitty's still not 21!!! gah! paige is gaining on her!

nubly

04-27-2005, 10:40 AM

mattbib

04-27-2005, 11:11 AM

i have a question about the characters in marvel comics presents #48-50. in it, we have two new mutants and a fish man who we never see again. whiplash and bloodlust were seen in amazing spider-man. critical mass was only seen in this story. but what i am curious about is the mutant girl and her father. in #50, she said that her father lost his powers and logan called him 'captain'. was it ever revealed who these two characters are? also, what ever happend to peter's fourh grade friend and his dentist?

any larsen fans who havent read this yet, i highly recommend it
It was actually a pretty bad storyline that didn't make any sense. Though the cover was nice.

Anyway, the "Captain" was supposed the Fawcett Captain Marvel (Billy Batson); again, not much sense. Critical Mass and his dentist presumablydied in the explosion.

nubly

04-27-2005, 11:19 AM

It was actually a pretty bad storyline that didn't make any sense. Though the cover was nice.

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really? i liked it. but i like anything from larsen though

Anon_me

04-27-2005, 12:35 PM

AFAIK she only had superhuman strength when she wore the Captain Britain uniform.

Reason I asked is because when she fought Sabertooth during Mutant Massacre, she threw a set of barbells at him and he said she was "plenty strong for a broad", and in the prelude of Inferno when Rogue, Colossus, and Psylocke were sparring, Rogue also mentioned that Betsy was strong compared to "normal" folks so was just wondering.

Doom Hammer

04-29-2005, 08:04 PM

Beast

04-29-2005, 08:15 PM

Here's something to think about -- How old are the Exiles?

Wasn't there one arc, (Fantastic Voyage, I think), where Mimic was floating around in one reality for years fighting the Brood? Or does being "unhinged from time" prevent aging?
If I recall correctly, while Unhinged from time the characters do not age. I think the Timebroker makes mention of this, during one of the earlier issues. It would make sense, given that they often jump into realities where time moves quicker or slower than normal. Though we also have to recall that Mimic and Sabretooth don't age like a normal being either, due to thier healing factors. :)

Doom Hammer

04-29-2005, 08:23 PM

If I recall correctly, while Unhinged from time the characters do not age. I think the Timebroker makes mention of this, during one of the earlier issues. It would make sense, given that they often jump into realities where time moves quicker or slower than normal. Though we also have to recall that Mimic and Sabretooth don't age like a normal being either, due to thier healing factors. :)

That's a bit tough for me to wrap my head around.

I understand not aging in a technical sense due to a healing factor. But if one was unhinged from time, one would assume that their own reality would kinda haveta stop moving. For example -- I don't think the point of the series is to have the Exiles return to their home realities after 80 years passing without aging a day.

The reasonable explanation would be that, to the people of the reality from which the Exile left, it would seem like no time had passed. In a blink of an eye, the Eile would be gone and come back. Sort of like when you're going in for surgery. Their drugs put you out, and after what seems like 2 seconds later, you're awake and operated on. They wouldn't even realize they're missing.

However, that's obviously not the case when it comes to the Exiles, because Beak clearly watched his family mourn his "leaving them."

I know I'm getting caught up on a small technicality, but it's something to chew over in your head, no? Heh, I guess not.

streator

04-29-2005, 10:02 PM

has hazard only appeared in xmen 12-13? i cannot remember seeing him anywhere else.

mattbib

04-30-2005, 02:17 AM

has hazard only appeared in xmen 12-13?Yes.

*tencharacters*

nubly

04-30-2005, 12:19 PM

question about x-force #81. is the risque that showed in previous issues pele?

mattbib

04-30-2005, 12:48 PM

question about x-force #81. is the risque that showed in previous issues pele?In this issue it was the real Pele, goddess of volcanoes, who was masquerading as Risque.

The Risque in previous issues is the real Risque.

Doom Hammer

04-30-2005, 03:04 PM

Here's a question of preference, so anyone feel free to answer:

I was thinking about buying some of Mystique's solo title. In your opinion, which was better: The first half of the title (1 to 12) or the second half (13-24)?

Thanks.

mattbib

04-30-2005, 03:45 PM

I enjoyed the first half better.

fishtaco

04-30-2005, 04:31 PM

Isnt Risque's powers like the same as Gambit's?

Christopher O

04-30-2005, 04:55 PM

Isnt Risque's powers like the same as Gambit's?
No. She causes things to implode--or she did when she was alive, anyway.

fishtaco

04-30-2005, 05:30 PM

true, but what I meant is dont their powers have the same effect?

Grendel0606

05-01-2005, 01:04 AM

ibrakeforchinwe

05-01-2005, 01:17 AM

true, but what I meant is dont their powers have the same effect?

Kinda but no. An explosion goes outward, while an implosion goes inward. So no. Both things blow up, but one blows out and blows in.

Make sense?

Doom Hammer

05-01-2005, 09:22 AM

The first half.

Thanks Grendel and Matt. That's interesting, though, that the half with guest appearances by the X-Men and the like is less appreciated than the other. What does that tell us? :confused:

Grendel0606

05-01-2005, 11:19 AM

Thanks Grendel and Matt. That's interesting, though, that the half with guest appearances by the X-Men and the like is less appreciated than the other. What does that tell us? :confused:
That Vaughan wrote more interesting stories than McKeever.

fishtaco

05-01-2005, 12:12 PM

Ive only read the Quiet Arc by McKeever which I thought was really good. Cant comment on anything else though.

Grendel0606

05-01-2005, 01:17 PM

Ive only read the Quiet Arc by McKeever which I thought was really good. Cant comment on anything else though.
He had improved with "Quiet", though the end was still rushed. His first arc though was pretty lousy.

nubly

05-01-2005, 01:51 PM

anyone know which issues did kitty pryde first appeared as sprite, ariel and shadowcat?

also, what number of weapon x was wolverine, sabretooth, maverick and kane?

mattbib

05-01-2005, 02:12 PM

Based on the info here (This%20mutant%20is%20not%20a%20member%20of%20any% 20current%20X-team.):
Sprite was in UXM #139.
Ariel was in UXM#160.
Shadowcat was in, or just after, the Kitty & Wolverine LS.

Wolverine was Weapon X I
Kane was Weapon X II
Weapon X III was a charactaer in Alpha Flight Vol.2.

Neither Sabretooth nor Maverick were ever called Weapon X.

Grendel0606

05-01-2005, 02:14 PM

anyone know which issues did kitty pryde first appeared as sprite, ariel and shadowcat?

also, what number of weapon x was wolverine, sabretooth, maverick and kane?
As Kitty: Uncanny X-Men 129
As Sprite: Uncanny X-Men 139
As Ariel: a bit complicated, really. She complained about her codename Sprite in Uncanny 169, but she never really annoucned that she'd call herself Ariel now. In fact, IIRC, she was only referred to as Ariel in limited series and the Graphic novel. Eveybody just called her Kitty anyway.
So I guess, first Ariel appearance would be "God Loves , man kills"
first Shadowcat: Kitty Pryde and Wolverine 6, IIRC

Flight

05-01-2005, 02:18 PM

I liked all the Mystique series. I wouldn't say the McKeever half was bad! It was certainly alot better than alot of other X-solo titles

fishtaco

05-03-2005, 06:44 AM

You know that Shiar ship that attacked Corsair's plane? Like, Scott and Alex jumped out and Scott's powers manifested? And Chris and Anne were taken prisoner? Like, why was that shiar ship on Earth?

DDM

05-03-2005, 09:12 AM

You know that Shiar ship that attacked Corsair's plane? Like, Scott and Alex jumped out and Scott's powers manifested? And Chris and Anne were taken prisoner? Like, why was that shiar ship on Earth?

Shi'ar spies had long been on Earth for various reasons. Corsair's plane was attacked by D'Ken because D'Ken did not want anyone alive that he thought heard his plans. Chris Summers & Anne were taken prisoner by D'Ken. D'Ken raped Ann before he killed her in from of Chris. Chris was taken to another planet's mines within the Shi'ar galaxy as a slave. There he found Raza, Ch'od, Hezibah & together they became the Starjammers. For the full story read Classic X-Men #14. D'Ken's plans were to open the M'Krann Crystal to utilize its vast power; however, he refused to listen to reason that opening the M'Krann Crystal would destroy the universe Uncanny X-Men #96-105, 107-108, 109.

When Chris' plane was attacked, his sons, Alex & Scott escaped since they only had one parachute. Scott's power did not manifest, but his brain was damaged that controlled his mutant powers. Eventually, Scott & Alex were taken to an orphanage in Nebraska controlled by Mr. Sinister. Sinister allowed Alex Summers to be adopted out, although he kept tabs on Alex. However, Scott never got adopted. Sinister found that he had a weakness with Scott's optic blasts & tried to find a way to control him. Parts of this story was shown in X-Factor #39, Classic X-Men #41-42.

Blackcat

05-03-2005, 10:07 AM

What ever happened to Dragonfly??

Where are the members of the Serpent society? I know Anaconda is in Six Pack and Viper at Hellfire. Where are the others?

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mattbib

05-03-2005, 01:04 PM

Dragonfly was last seen as a member of the Crimson Cowl's Masters of Evil around Thunderbolts #25.

The other members of the Serpent Society (not really X-characters) appeared during the Disassembled issues of Captain America, specifically Vol.4 #31.

Holland

05-03-2005, 01:19 PM

Can anyone explain to me why Rogue & Gambit and Havok & Polaris both rejoined the X-Men?
I thought both couples left to spent time together?

fishtaco

05-04-2005, 10:40 AM

Can anyone explain to me why Rogue & Gambit and Havok & Polaris both rejoined the X-Men?
I thought both couples left to spent time together?
Gambit and Rogue left the X-Treme X-men for some vacation time together after they both lost their powers courtesy of Vargas in X-Treme X-men 17-18. They came back soon after during Intifada, and have remained with Storm's team. When returning to the Xavier Institute after Xorn's attack on NYC, they for some reason got moved over to Havok's Away team.

Havok and Polaris are a bit more complicated. They broke up way back in X-Factor (v1) # 118 when Havok got kidnapped by Random, who was working for the Dark Beast. The brainwashed Havok became a member of The Brotherhood, and acted as a villain for awhile. Later, in X-Factor (v1) # 143, Havok took over X-Factor and exploited the X.U.E. when he took their recruits (Archer, Fixx, and Greystone) and had them betray the XUE, and thus join Havok's new incarnation of X-Factor, thus causing Forge and the previous team to leave. In X-Factor (v1) 149, Greystone blew up in a time machine accident, and Havok died with him. Havok's psyche was transported to the Mutant X universe. Havok seemingly died in Mutant X # 32, but he was revealed to be alive, comatose in a hospital in Uncanny X-men 418. Cyclops picked him up from the hospital and with the combined effort of Professor X and his nurse's son Carter, he awoke from his coma and joined the Away team. Currently, he moved up tp be the team leader when Nightcrawler left for the X.S.E. and Archangel left for Genosha with Husk to aid Professor X. Polaris became part of Magneto's government on Genosha. When Genosha was obliterated in New X-men 114, Xavier later came to the island, where she was revealed to be a survivor. When Havok awoke from his coma, the X-men contacted her and she returned. They almost got married, but it... didnt happen... Since then, they are both on the Away team which Havok leads. They are no longer together, and Iceman seems to be hanging with Polaris a lot...

hope that helps.

Nyssane

05-04-2005, 08:34 PM

The other members of the Serpent Society (not really X-characters) appeared during the Disassembled issues of Captain America, specifically Vol.4 #31.

Excrutiatingly out of character, though. Why would Sidewinder, Asp, and Black Mamba betray Diamondback?

Before that, Puff Adder and Black Mamba were a part of different incarnations of the Masters of Evil. Diamondback was killed by Red Skull (I think, I never read the rest of the Disassembled issues -- I remember they were talking about how fishy Diamondback has been acting). Sidewinder is going to be making an appearance pretty soon, I believe. Coachwhip went up against the Moon Knight in the 90's, also. Other than that, they were all last seen in Captain America #427.

mattbib

05-04-2005, 08:51 PM

Before that, Puff Adder and Black Mamba were a part of different incarnations of the Masters of Evil. Diamondback was killed by Red Skull (I think, I never read the rest of the Disassembled issues -- I remember they were talking about how fishy Diamondback has been acting). Sidewinder is going to be making an appearance pretty soon, I believe. Coachwhip went up against the Moon Knight in the 90's, also. Other than that, they were all last seen in Captain America #427.That wasn't Diamondback, it was an LMD. Sidewinder has reformed and just appeared in the most recent New Thunderbolts.

Kirayoshi

05-04-2005, 10:40 PM

As Kitty: Uncanny X-Men 129
As Sprite: Uncanny X-Men 139
As Ariel: a bit complicated, really. She complained about her codename Sprite in Uncanny 169, but she never really annoucned that she'd call herself Ariel now. In fact, IIRC, she was only referred to as Ariel in limited series and the Graphic novel. Eveybody just called her Kitty anyway.
So I guess, first Ariel appearance would be "God Loves , man kills"
first Shadowcat: Kitty Pryde and Wolverine 6, IIRC
Kitty actually officially called herself Ariel in UXM #172(I think), but only in the letter column. At the time the X-Men hadn't been publishing a steady lettercol, and Jim Shooter insisted that the column return. Louise Jones(later Simonson), the X-Men's then-editor, came up with the semi-clever idea of having various members of the team, starting with Kitty, respond to the letters. Some worked better than others.

Oddly enough word of her name change got around the superhero community. When she did a guest-appearance on Marvel Team-up, Spider-Man referred to her as Ariel(despite the fact that she wasn't even in costume! I guess when Spider-Man saw a Morlock pass through her body, he was able to put two and two together).

What I wanna know is when did various X-Men first start making up their own unique nicknames for her? Kitten, Katchen, Katya, Punkin...Let's call the whole thing off! :)

Grendel0606

05-05-2005, 01:02 AM

Kitty actually officially called herself Ariel in UXM #172(I think), but only in the letter column. At the time the X-Men hadn't been publishing a steady lettercol, and Jim Shooter insisted that the column return. Louise Jones(later Simonson), the X-Men's then-editor, came up with the semi-clever idea of having various members of the team, starting with Kitty, respond to the letters. Some worked better than others.

Oddly enough word of her name change got around the superhero community. When she did a guest-appearance on Marvel Team-up, Spider-Man referred to her as Ariel(despite the fact that she wasn't even in costume! I guess when Spider-Man saw a Morlock pass through her body, he was able to put two and two together).

:)
Interesting thanks. I only have Classic X-Men issues of that time, so I never read the letter column in question. I distinctly remember though that Kitty never referred to herself as Ariel within the actual story.

DDM

05-05-2005, 09:28 AM

What ever happened to Dragonfly??

Where are the members of the Serpent society? I know Anaconda is in Six Pack and Viper at Hellfire. Where are the others?

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Viper was never a member of the Serpent Society. She began her terrorist career as Madame Hydra; hence her green hair & make-up motif. Eventually, she took the code name Viper & became a freelance assassin with her partner, the Silver Samurai. Viper only recently hooked up with the Hellfire Club as the White Queen's White Princess, her champion.

Nyssane

05-05-2005, 10:51 AM

Viper was never a member of the Serpent Society. She began her terrorist career as Madame Hydra; hence her green hair & make-up motif. Eventually, she took the code name Viper & became a freelance assassin with her partner, the Silver Samurai. Viper only recently hooked up with the Hellfire Club as the White Queen's White Princess, her champion.

Viper led the Serpent Society for a brief time. She got the majority of them to backstab their former leader, Sidewinder (which they later all regretted, since Viper showed how self-serving she is by abondoning them). So yeah, I guess she could be considered a former member, since she was the leader (for however short time that was).

mattbib

05-05-2005, 12:08 PM

Viper led the Serpent Society for a brief time. She got the majority of them to backstab their former leader, Sidewinder (which they later all regretted, since Viper showed how self-serving she is by abondoning them). So yeah, I guess she could be considered a former member, since she was the leader (for however short time that was).She and her followers were actually the Serpent Squad at the time. While she took control of the Society through her hostile takeover, I wouldn't really say she was the leader of the Serpent Society; more that she forced its members to to become part of her Squad.

BoosterBronze

05-05-2005, 12:19 PM

Hey, I started reading X-Men again after a hiatus of many years with Morison on "New X-Men."
What was the deal before that? What was going on, who was on the teams, how were the teams set up? I'm just trying to fill in some gaps in my understanding.

fishtaco

05-05-2005, 01:23 PM

Ryan K

05-06-2005, 05:46 PM

Does anybody have a list (or know of a website with a list) of all of the various Wolverine prestige format books, one-shots, and mini series?

mattbib

05-06-2005, 07:45 PM

Does anybody have a list (or know of a website with a list) of all of the various Wolverine prestige format books, one-shots, and mini series?
Most of them are listed here (http://www.chronology.net/default.pl/cited#rd_wolverine).

Ryan K

05-06-2005, 10:17 PM

Thanks Matt!

fishtaco

05-07-2005, 08:59 AM

At about what time did Pyro start to reform?

spoon_jenkins

05-07-2005, 11:27 AM

At about what time did Pyro start to reform?
In Uncanny X-Men #199, Mystique makes the pardon deal that transformed the Brotherhood of Evil Mutants (including Pyro) into a team of government agents called Freedom Force. It probably motivated more by self-interest than an interest in doing good.

Crimson

05-07-2005, 11:38 AM

At about what time did Pyro start to reform?

When he fully reformed was in Cable (2nd series) #87. The same issue he died.

fishtaco

05-07-2005, 01:56 PM

In Uncanny X-Men #199, Mystique makes the pardon deal that transformed the Brotherhood of Evil Mutants (including Pyro) into a team of government agents called Freedom Force. It probably motivated more by self-interest than an interest in doing good.That isnt what I meant.

[QUOTE=Crimson]Im not asking when he fully reformed,Im asking when he started to reform (and becoming Freedom Force doesnt count, because that was only done to make the X-men outlaws and to committ crimes without getting into much trouble).

In Uncanny X-men 338, he was trying to warn the X-men about Mystique's plan to assassinate Robert Kelly (which Almost happened in Dreams End).

Oh wait. I just answered my own question. Pyro became good when he started dying of the Legacy Virus, which made him realize what its like to suffer. Thus, he wanted to end the violence and the fighting.

Sabre

05-08-2005, 04:45 AM

Im not asking when he fully reformed,Im asking when he started to reform (and becoming Freedom Force doesnt count, because that was only done to make the X-men outlaws and to committ crimes without getting into much trouble).

Crimson's description "It probably motivated more by self-interest than an interest in doing good" is spot-on. They were looking for protection.

However, I think it can be argued that Pyro started to reform shortly after...or at least began to mellow. In UXM 206, he chided Avalanche for wrecklessly causing destruction, "good guys don't make messes...we clean 'em up!" Now, I'm sure at least part of that was anxiousness to keep the Freedom Force gig, but if he was truly bad, he probably wouldn't have cared anyway.

In UXM 226, he saved Longshot and a bunch of civilians from a dinosaur, and was very proud of it (and was friendly to Longshot after). I think that's the first time he got a positive reaction from people, and liked it and was happy about it. So at the very least, that was sowing the seeds for future reform.

In Uncanny X-men 338, he was trying to warn the X-men about Mystique's plan to assassinate Robert Kelly (which Almost happened in Dreams End).

Well, it was Graydon Creed's impending assassination he was trying to warn them about in a very garbled way, but yeah. And in his next appearance (X-Factor 129) he said "And I'm ready to make amends for every dog deed done in my black life". He then tried to save Creed from assassination, not knowing that Mystique had lied to him and was secretly plotting -- and succeeded -- to kill Creed. So he was being honest there, but she wasn't.

Oh wait. I just answered my own question. Pyro became good when he started dying of the Legacy Virus, which made him realize what its like to suffer. Thus, he wanted to end the violence and the fighting.

Yes, that was definitely what really spurred him on, and what made him be all Kumbaya about peace between humans and mutants. That was new.

Blackcat

05-08-2005, 04:46 AM

So no one knows what happened to the Serpent society???

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Simon Garth

05-08-2005, 05:13 AM

Is it just me, or is this a really, really stupid name? Is is supposed to be a play on some other better-known term (can't think of anything other than Shylock, which is wildly irrelevant to her), or a combination of Psi and Braddock, or something?

Has it ever been explained why that name was chosen?

I'm sure there must be a better Psi-something name that could have been used: Psiren (alright, there's already Siryn, so that one's out), Psyclops (ok, ok, not that one), Opsiris (no, everyone would pronounce the "p"), Psilence, Psiatica, Psitticosis, Psign, ....

Alright, so I can't think of a better one (psighs, dramatically), but all the same, why 'Psylocke'?

The Fury

05-08-2005, 05:30 AM

So no one knows what happened to the Serpent society???
Don't really know, they are not really a band of people out to get the X-mne, more Captain America's sort of thing.

Alright, so I can't think of a better one (psighs, dramatically), but all the same, why 'Psylocke'?
An nice question, my good sir, but alas I do not know (Claremont probably does), as you say the first bit is bue to her Telepathic (Psi) powers but the 'Locke' probably just a nice extra.

Grendel0606

05-08-2005, 05:59 AM

Don't really know, they are not really a band of people out to get the X-mne, more Captain America's sort of thing.

An nice question, my good sir, but alas I do not know (Claremont probably does), as you say the first bit is bue to her Telepathic (Psi) powers but the 'Locke' probably just a nice extra.

I asked that Claremont one time. H replies something along the lines that with her PSI-powers, particularly her telepathic knife (never mind that she didn't have it when the name was coined, she unLOCKs minds.