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Trystenn
02-01-2005, 09:44 PM
Skin (http://www.mutanthigh.com/skin.html) is dead.

He and Jubes never really had a relationship. She just pined for him after he was dead.
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Wow, that has got to be among the saddest things ive read, more and more and more details!!!

mattbib
02-01-2005, 10:01 PM
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Wow, that has got to be among the saddest things ive read, more and more and more details!!!Click the link in my post for more details...his death was pretty uneventful.

Trystenn
02-01-2005, 10:08 PM
Click the link in my post for more details...his death was pretty uneventful.
I know i read that part, they didnt even want to bury him cuz he was Latino, bastards :mad:

Anyways i mean more details on his life and works.

mattbib
02-01-2005, 10:10 PM
Anyways i mean more details on his life and works.More detail than a summary? Your best bet is to read the issue summaries at www.uncannyxmen.net. Or start buying the back issues.

Trystenn
02-01-2005, 10:15 PM
More detail than a summary? Your best bet is to read the issue summaries at www.uncannyxmen.net. Or start buying the back issues.
Aww, no easy way to just explain his years of appearances and stuff :( ?

Ryan K
02-01-2005, 10:37 PM
This is all from memory, so be forgiving if I mess anything up.

Skin was from a "bad part" of LA. Grew up in a gang, blah, blah, blah. IIRC, he faked his own death to get out of town and after the events of the Phalanx Covenant he joined Generation X. At one point in the series some members of Gen X went back with him to LA for him to confront his personal demons (so to speak). After that, there really wasn't much development with his character in the 75+ issues of Generation X. He was sort of the odd man out. He advanced along in his training with his powers, but other than that . . . nothing I can remember.

At the end of Generation X, he decided to go back to LA For no apparent reason, Jubilee tagged along. The shared an apartment together as Jubilee worked as a bit actress.

Next thing we know they both pop up on the lawn of Xavier's crucified by the Church of Humanity. Skin died. Jubilee lived. On his grave Jubilee wished that she had had sex with him to make him happy because she thinks she was in love with him (even though up to this point there wasabsolutely zero indications that there was anything anywhere near romantic going on between the two).

That's about it.

fishtaco
02-02-2005, 10:29 AM
skin died in Uncanny X-men 423. More on this was in Uncanny X-men 427.


I feel like DDM :D

Sheldon
02-02-2005, 01:49 PM
Unfortunately, today's Marvel comics use real swear words instead of the good substitutes such as "blast" or "cripes"...

Yeah....Blast and Cripes were classic....I always knew Logan was cutting edge when he'd say cripes.

DDM
02-02-2005, 01:53 PM
Yeah....Blast and Cripes were classic....I always knew Logan was cutting edge when he'd say cripes.

I loved it when Kitty said "crumbs"...

MrHymes01
02-02-2005, 02:37 PM
Did Sienna Blaze ever return from the Ultraverse? Or is she dead?

mattbib
02-02-2005, 02:42 PM
Did Sienna Blaze ever return from the M2 universe? Or is she dead?She appeared to have died in Weapon X #5.

fishtaco
02-03-2005, 08:54 AM
she returned, yes. Like Matt said, she died in WeaponX (volume2) #5 in the gas chambers of the Neverland facility. She died along with Maggot, Random, Ape, Bulwark, Tar Baby, and I think thats it.

sotosan
02-03-2005, 09:23 AM
Does anyone know the name of the guy who created Wolverine????? I just became curious because I happened to be channel surfing and came across a Marvel story on the show 60 minutes. The host was interviewing Stan Lee and he was talking about how the Marvel movies made so much money off the characters he created along with Kirby, yet he did not get a penny from the sales of the movies until he sued Marvel. Stan said he never wanted to sue Marvel but he felt it was unfair not to give him a penny. I agree and so did the courts and they awarded him something like 10% of what the movies made but Marvel is appealing the case. The host also asked Stan how he felt about Marvel paying him a generous yearly salary of a million bucks and he said he was greatful and felt he deserved it for all the characters he created and what he did for the company...Stan was a really nice guy...it got me thinking how Marvel is still surviving on the characters he created about 40 or so years ago and not many popular characters have been created since. So, all that brings me to my question of who created Wolverine because thats the only core character I can think of that Stan didn't create or did he? Can someone tell me!!!!!

riotgear
02-03-2005, 09:34 AM
Does anyone know the name of the guy who created Wolverine????? I just became curious because I happened to be channel surfing and came across a Marvel story on the show 60 minutes. The host was interviewing Stan Lee and he was talking about how the Marvel movies made so much money off the characters he created along with Kirby, yet he did not get a penny from the sales of the movies until he sued Marvel. Stan said he never wanted to sue Marvel but he felt it was unfair not to give him a penny. I agree and so did the courts and they awarded him something like 10% of what the movies made but Marvel is appealing the case. The host also asked Stan how he felt about Marvel paying him a generous yearly salary of a million bucks and he said he was greatful and felt he deserved it for all the characters he created and what he did for the company...Stan was a really nice guy...it got me thinking how Marvel is still surviving on the characters he created about 40 or so years ago and not many popular characters have been created since. So, all that brings me to my question of who created Wolverine because thats the only core character I can think of that Stan didn't create or did he? Can someone tell me!!!!!

Len Wein created Wolverine.

Dizzy D
02-03-2005, 09:40 AM
Does anyone know the name of the guy who created Wolverine????? I just became curious because I happened to be channel surfing and came across a Marvel story on the show 60 minutes. The host was interviewing Stan Lee and he was talking about how the Marvel movies made so much money off the characters he created along with Kirby, yet he did not get a penny from the sales of the movies until he sued Marvel. Stan said he never wanted to sue Marvel but he felt it was unfair not to give him a penny. I agree and so did the courts and they awarded him something like 10% of what the movies made but Marvel is appealing the case. The host also asked Stan how he felt about Marvel paying him a generous yearly salary of a million bucks and he said he was greatful and felt he deserved it for all the characters he created and what he did for the company...Stan was a really nice guy...it got me thinking how Marvel is still surviving on the characters he created about 40 or so years ago and not many popular characters have been created since. So, all that brings me to my question of who created Wolverine because thats the only core character I can think of that Stan didn't create or did he? Can someone tell me!!!!!


Depends on who you see as core characters. There are a lot of characters Stan didn't create apart from Wolverine (from the A-list characters Captain America and a lot of X-men come to mind)

Titan Slade
02-03-2005, 10:32 AM
I believe Lee and Kirby created the original 5 X-Men(and possibly Havok and Polaris). The rest were created by other people as far as I know.

sotosan
02-03-2005, 11:12 AM
Len Wein created Wolverine.

THANKS!!!!

riotgear
02-03-2005, 12:16 PM
THANKS!!!!

No problem. And just for additional information, Len Wein wrote Incredible Hulk #181-2, where Wolverine first appeared. He also wrote Giant-Size X-Men #1, where he appeared next. After that, Chris Claremont picked up the storyline in X-Men (vol.1) #94.

StoneGold
02-03-2005, 01:35 PM
John Romita Sr. created the design for Wolverine, although Herb Trimpe was the first guy to draw him in a book. Romita is still usually credited with the creation though, same with Punisher, despite the fact Ross Andru drew the book.

fishtaco
02-03-2005, 03:46 PM
Does anyone know the name of the guy who created Wolverine????? I just became curious because I happened to be channel surfing and came across a Marvel story on the show 60 minutes. The host was interviewing Stan Lee and he was talking about how the Marvel movies made so much money off the characters he created along with Kirby, yet he did not get a penny from the sales of the movies until he sued Marvel. Stan said he never wanted to sue Marvel but he felt it was unfair not to give him a penny. I agree and so did the courts and they awarded him something like 10% of what the movies made but Marvel is appealing the case. The host also asked Stan how he felt about Marvel paying him a generous yearly salary of a million bucks and he said he was greatful and felt he deserved it for all the characters he created and what he did for the company...Stan was a really nice guy...it got me thinking how Marvel is still surviving on the characters he created about 40 or so years ago and not many popular characters have been created since. So, all that brings me to my question of who created Wolverine because thats the only core character I can think of that Stan didn't create or did he? Can someone tell me!!!!!

Sotosan, if you have small questions like that can you please post them on the Questions Thread? thanks. It just prevents a million threads popping up about questions that can all be put on one thread. thanks :)

GoGo Yubari
02-04-2005, 03:37 PM
Hey, I'm going to be going to the Emerald City ComicCon tomorrow and I think I'm going to try and get issues of Deadpool's solo series. So out of curiosity, which are the best ones of that run?

gary
02-04-2005, 03:55 PM
Hi there. There are two main runs you should look out for. Joe Kelly's - issue 1 to 33, and Gail Simone's - 65-69. In the middle we have Christopher Priest, Jimmy Palmotti and Frank Tiera who all paled in comparison (in my humble opinion!)

Kelly's work is excellent, full of humour, sadness and shocks. You can break it down into three main arcs - Issue 1 - 13 feature Deadpool attempting to become a hero and his somewhat bumpy path along this road. You must get issue 6 featuring the Vamp - funnier than a mongoose on roller skates. Issue 10 is a must buy, a hillarious comic that features the return of the Great Lakes Avengers (or the Lightning Rods as they're now called - snicker!) Issue 11 is also fantastic, featuring Deadpool having a bizarre time travel semi-crossover with Spider-man. Issues 12 and 13 finish up this stage of Deadpool's life and are like a punch to the gut, really shocking.

Issues 14 to 25 feature Deadpool in the employ of Laundu Luckman and Lake (I think that's right) and see the introduction of exploding head man. Yay! Issues 23-25 feature the arc 'Dead Reckoning', the culmination of this arc. Also worth looking out for is issue 20 (or maybe 21) which sees Deadpool fight Batroc the Leaper (He He, still makes me giggle 5 years on)

Issues 26 to 33 clear up a lot of the mysteries around Deadpool's past. Of note is issue 27 with Doctor Bong and issue 29 (I think) with the Black Talon, chicken heads and Zombie goo!

There was also a Daredevil/Deadpool annual from 1998 that carried on from issue 7 and a Deadpool/Death annual that came out in 1999, carrying on from issue 18 (or thereabouts)

Gail Simone's short run (issues 65-69) is a classic and features Baby Rhino (hamster ball!) and everyone's favourite rollerskater, Dazzler!

Happy hunting!

The Lucky One
02-04-2005, 03:56 PM
Anything by Joe Kelly or Gail Simone is basically what you're looking for. I think Gail's run started in the 60s, then ran to the end of the title and picked up in Agent X (also worth getting).

Ah. I was late. You already know this. Well... good job, gary!

-D

GoGo Yubari
02-04-2005, 04:14 PM
Thanks, Gary, I'm definitely going to go for the stuff with the Great Lakes Avengers.

Morrolan
02-04-2005, 05:43 PM
I enjoyed the Deadpool and Punisher issues. I also liked his 2 4 issue series. I forget what they were called but one Was about Tolivers Will. Very good 4 issuse series. Cool fights with Kane and this weird team of Mercs. I forget their name but i know they capture him at one point. And pay for it at another. And i also think he throws Black Tom and Juggy out of a plane. Unless Im mixing the 2 series up. And the other was about Black Tom. I personally like this one better. This is where he first falls for Syrin. Fanstastic series. Also has some pretty good altercations with both Black Tom and Juggy.

Doom Hammer
02-04-2005, 06:21 PM
There was also a Daredevil/Deadpool annual from 1998 that carried on from issue 7 and a Deadpool/Death annual that came out in 1999, carrying on from issue 18 (or thereabouts)

Yeah, that was excellent. One of my favorite DP related comics ever.

ChoasMAC
02-04-2005, 06:55 PM
Honestly, I really liked Tieri's run on Deadpool. It was the only reason I picked up the series again. It serves as a good build up to Simone's run and I LOVED Deadpool's Funeral for a Freak ( The ONLY good Nuff Said issue) :D

UniqueFrequency
02-04-2005, 08:52 PM
definitely the joe kelly and gail books!!

Michael P
02-04-2005, 09:19 PM
Deadpool 1-25, plus the 98 and 99 annuals, is one of the best Deadpool novles I've ever read.

C.O. Jones
02-05-2005, 02:01 AM
I believe Lee and Kirby created the original 5 X-Men(and possibly Havok and Polaris). The rest were created by other people as far as I know.

Lee and Kirby ended their X-Men run with issue 17. Lee continued to write until 19. Havok and Polaris both 1st appeared in civilian id's in issues 49 and 54 respectively.

gary
02-05-2005, 02:59 AM
Hope you get some good bargains GoGo. You know, writing that summary reminded me how good these runs actually were. I think I'm going to have to go and read some of these books again!

It's good to see much love for the Joe Kelly issues. With comics currently deep in the age of Bendis it's amazing how much Kelly packed into 33 issues (and the rest!)

Neolucifer
02-05-2005, 07:46 AM
GET ALL of DP !!!! NOW !!! :D

Siddon
02-05-2005, 01:30 PM
Has it ever been shown to see whats in Magneto's Helmet that makes it psy-proof :D

Catalyst
02-05-2005, 02:22 PM
Has it ever been shown to see whats in Magneto's Helmet that makes it psy-proof :D

it's lined with Liefeld's original X-Force run.

Trystenn
02-05-2005, 02:46 PM
*ahem*
Who exactly is Spiral? what are her powers? where does she figure in prominantly?

MrBiggs7
02-05-2005, 02:48 PM
How far in the future is Bishop from? I never read his origin books, I only know what is recapped in current books or profiles in Wizard. In the cartoon he knew wolverine, was raised partially by Gambit, and was sent into the past by Forge. Does the comic continuem reflect this or did they make that all up? If that's true then his future is right around the corner, isn't it?

mattbib
02-05-2005, 03:09 PM
*ahem*
Who exactly is Spiral? what are her powers? where does she figure in prominantly?from www.mutanthigh.com
Spiral was created when a movie star named Ricochet Rita was captured by Mojo and twisted, physically and psychically, into a six-armed, sword-wielding sorceress/teleporter. (Note: This appears to have happened in the future.) Part of the reason for her transformation is that she was Longshot's (http://mutanthigh.bravepages.com/longshot.html) love interest for a time, and Mojo wanted to hurt his greatest enemy by subverting his girlfriend. Spiral is able to cast different types of spells, including teleportation through time and space. She worked with Freedom Force for a while, but also runs the Body Shoppe, a place where genetics and technology are used to twist people in the same way that Spiral herself was twisted. Spiral is responsible for giving Psylocke (http://mutanthigh.bravepages.com/psylocke.html) new eyes (which she then used as camera feeds from our world), kidnapping Rachel Summers (http://mutanthigh.bravepages.com/phoenix2.html) and making her Mojo's prisoner, placing Shatterstar's (http://mutanthigh.bravepages.com/shatterstar.html) spirit into Benjamin Russell's body, and for the creation of Lady Deathstrike (http://mutanthigh.bravepages.com/ladydee.html) and her Reavers (http://mutanthigh.bravepages.com/reavers.html): Cole, Macon and Reese. In one possible future, she returned to Mojoworld with Arize, creator of the slave biped race, and helped overthrow Mojo I. She has an intense emotional connection to both Longshot and Shatterstar. Spiral currently bears the mark of the Crimson Dawn (http://mutanthigh.bravepages.com/glossary.html#crimson), but the full ramifications of that fact are still unknown.

Trystenn
02-05-2005, 03:11 PM
Thank you very much Matt!!!

mattbib
02-05-2005, 03:12 PM
How far in the future is Bishop from? I never read his origin books, I only know what is recapped in current books or profiles in Wizard. In the cartoon he knew wolverine, was raised partially by Gambit, and was sent into the past by Forge. Does the comic continuem reflect this or did they make that all up? If that's true then his future is right around the corner, isn't it?He's supposedly from the late 21st century. Gateway, the aboriginal mutant, is his great-grandfather.

You can get more info here (http://uncannyxmen.net/db/spotlight/showquestion.asp?faq=10&fldAuto=74).

DDM
02-05-2005, 04:52 PM
*ahem*
Who exactly is Spiral? what are her powers? where does she figure in prominantly?

Aside from Matt has said, track down Longshot #1-6 for the first appearances of Mojo, Longshot & Spiral.

The Body Shoppe is where science & magick merge; it's where Spiral operates on Earth in any place. For Rachel, she appeared in the Delacorte, a part of Central Park in NYC. For Psylocke's transformation into an Asian ninja, Spiral literally placed her Body Shoppe inside Betsy's mind. Mojo, on the other hand, created Betsy's original bionic eyes--not Spiral, although he may have used Spiral's Body Shoppe to put the bionic camera eyes in Betsy's eye sockets.

MrBiggs7
02-05-2005, 09:04 PM
If a head injury is restricting Cyclops from fully controllling his power, shouldn't an Omega-class mutant like Elixer be able to heal it without any issues?

Trystenn
02-05-2005, 09:27 PM
If a head injury is restricting Cyclops from fully controllling his power, shouldn't an Omega-class mutant like Elixer be able to heal it without any issues?
Hell Warrens Blood might be able to do it.....

mattbib
02-05-2005, 09:59 PM
No, the damage has already been done and healed. It'd be like trying to heal scar tissue or a broken bone that's already been set and healed improperly.

nubly
02-07-2005, 12:10 PM
i just finished reading wolverine the end this morning and i have a quetion. going by this seriies, logan's mom had the mutant gene. now both logan and his brother have the same powers. the reason behind logan's odd hair style is because of his healing factor which has his hair growing that way within a few hours of cutting it. if i recall correctly, logans father has the same hair style. how can logans father have that hair style if he did not have the mutant gene?

Crimson
02-07-2005, 12:31 PM
i just finished reading wolverine the end this morning and i have a quetion. going by this seriies, logan's mom had the mutant gene. now both logan and his brother have the same powers. the reason behind logan's odd hair style is because of his healing factor which has his hair growing that way within a few hours of cutting it. if i recall correctly, logans father has the same hair style. how can logans father have that hair style if he did not have the mutant gene?

His father did have hair like that didn't he in Origin? Wasn't it Dog's dad who was Wolverine's dad and not Mr Howlett, who had normal hair.

MrBiggs7
02-07-2005, 01:30 PM
Haha. That's a good question.

Crimson, I think that its assumed that James is the illegitmate son of Logan.

Nightcrawler
02-07-2005, 03:18 PM
Can Cannonball fly? I know he can propell himself, but how long can he maintain flight? Also, how fast does he lauch himself?

Thanks.

riotgear
02-07-2005, 03:44 PM
Can Cannonball fly? I know he can propell himself, but how long can he maintain flight? Also, how fast does he lauch himself?

Thanks.

Hope this helps...

Cannonball II
Real Name: Samuel Zachary Guthrie
Other Known Aliases: None
Former Aliases: None
Dual Identity: Secret
Status: Active
Current Occupation: Adventurer
Former Occupation: Student, coal miner, Hellfire Club mercenary
Citizenship: United States of America
Legal Status: No criminal record
Place of Birth: Cumberland, Kentucky
Marital Status: Single
Known Relatives: Thomas Zebulon “Zeke” Guthrie (father, deceased); Lucinda Guthrie (mother); Elizabeth Guthrie (sister); Jedediah Guthrie (brother); Joshua “Jay” Guthrie (Icarus, brother); Lewis Guthrie (brother); Joelle Guthrie (sister); Paige Guthrie (Husk, sister); Lucas Guthrie (uncle); Tyler Guthrie (uncle)
Known Confidants: Lila Cheney, Danielle Moonstar, Roberto “Berto” DaCosta (Sunspot), Rahne Sinclair (Wolfsbane); (former) Tabitha Smith (Meltdown), Douglas “Doug” Ramsey (Cypher, deceased)
Usual Base of Operations: Mobile
Former Bases of Operations: Xavier’s School for Higher Learning, 1407 Graymalkin Lane, Salem Center, Westchester County, New York State; Arcade’s Murderworld Complex, Brooklyn, New York; X-Force Base Camp, Tempe, Arizona; Bolivar Trask’s former Sentinels Complex, Adirondack Mountains, Upstate New York; X-Factor’s ship, New York City; Massachusetts Academy, Berkshire Mountains, Massachusetts
Current Group Membership: X.S.E. (Extreme Sanctions Executive) (on leave)
Former Group Membership: X-Treme X-Men; X-Force II; X-Men; New Mutants; Hellfire Club mercenaries; Hellions
Note: It was once recently thought that Sam was an immortal mutant, an External, but Selene claims it is not true. Whether she was lying or not is unknown.
Height: 6’2”; (as a teen) 6’
Weight: 185 lbs.; (as a teen) 150 lbs.
Eyes: Blue
Hair: Blond
Other Distinguishing Features: None
Intelligence: Normal
Strength Level: Normal
Speed: Athlete
Flight Speed: Subsonic
Stamina: Athlete
Durability: Athlete; when using his blast field, however, Cannonball achieves near-invulnerability to physical attack due to the energy field that surrounds his body
Agility: Athlete
Reflexes: Athlete
Fighting Skills: Formidable hand-to-hand combatant, coached by Storm, Wolverine, Cable, and Domino II
Special Skills and Abilities: Excellent leadership skills
Superhuman Physical Powers: Ability to create a thermo-chemical energy field, surround his body with this field and release it; he can use this as a defensive shield or project it from his body and fly with it, he can also protect anyone near him with the same field with concentration
Superhuman Mental Powers: None
Special Limitations: None
Source of Superhuman Powers: Genetic mutation
Costume Specifications: Synthetic stretch fabric with limited body armor and insulation against extreme temperatures
Personal Weaponry: None
Special Weaponry: None
Other Accessories: None
Transportation: Often flight under own power
Design and Manufacture of Paraphernalia: Inapplicable
First Appearance: MARVEL GRAPHIC NOVEL #4

Crimson
02-08-2005, 04:25 AM
Can anyone fill me in on Jamie Braddock?

The Fury
02-08-2005, 04:38 AM
Can anyone fill me in on Jamie Braddock?
http://www.marvunapp.com/Appendix/braddockj.htm

That gives you most detail.

Crimson
02-08-2005, 05:07 AM
http://www.marvunapp.com/Appendix/braddockj.htm

That gives you most detail.

So is the guy dead or alive? I'm a little confused about how he managed to show in Uncanny at about #449.

The Fury
02-08-2005, 05:11 AM
So is the guy dead or alive? I'm a little confused about how he managed to show in Uncanny at about #449.
Apparently alive, although he is a reality bender and death may just be a concept to him, but after his defeat, that last that was seen of him was that he went to Muir Island to recover/ get treatment from his mental illness. But as we know the Muir Island facility is now longer there.

mattbib
02-08-2005, 05:32 AM
So is the guy dead or alive? I'm a little confused about how he managed to show in Uncanny at about #449.Clearly he's alive. We're all confused because it hasn't been resolved yet.

nubly
02-08-2005, 01:34 PM
has marvel retconned karma's past yet? she is supposed to be what, around her 20s? that would not matchup with her past life in vietnam

mattbib
02-08-2005, 01:38 PM
has marvel retconned karma's past yet? she is supposed to be what, around her 20s? that would not matchup with her past life in vietnamNo it hasn't. I don't think it needs to be retconned, really. Readers can just adjust any reference to the War or to the Viet Cong to some later military action. It is a fictional universe after all.

Nightcrawler
02-08-2005, 01:50 PM
Can Doppelganger copy an unconcious person's powers?

nubly
02-08-2005, 02:38 PM
No it hasn't. I don't think it needs to be retconned, really. Readers can just adjust any reference to the War or to the Viet Cong to some later military action. It is a fictional universe after all.

i dont know, i would have to disagree with that. characters like karma, forge and punisher's past in vietnam are what developed their characer. now madison jeffries involvment in vietnam or mr fantastic and the thing's involvemt in WWII, have no impact in how their characters were developed. so with the three latter characters, you can just say they were in the first gulf war and it wouldnt matter to their character. but saying that the former three were not in vietnam just doesnt fit in the character marvel created for them. anyone agree?

Dizzy D
02-08-2005, 03:26 PM
i dont know, i would have to disagree with that. characters like karma, forge and punisher's past in vietnam are what developed their characer. now madison jeffries involvment in vietnam or mr fantastic and the thing's involvemt in WWII, have no impact in how their characters were developed. so with the three latter characters, you can just say they were in the first gulf war and it wouldnt matter to their character. but saying that the former three were not in vietnam just doesnt fit in the character marvel created for them. anyone agree?

I agree, just like WWII is integral to Magneto and Captain America, Vietnam is integral to Forge and Karma. I can't really think of a good way to let it work together with Marvel's sliding timescale, so it's just a matter of just accepting it and moving on.

Nightcrawler
02-08-2005, 03:51 PM
Can Doppelganger copy an unconcious person's powers?
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gambitsgurl
02-08-2005, 09:21 PM
is issue 18 the last issue of Emma Frost?

Ryan K
02-08-2005, 10:13 PM
is issue 18 the last issue of Emma Frost?

Yes.
ten characters.

Stagier
02-09-2005, 09:42 AM
[QUOTE=Dizzy D]I agree, just like WWII is integral to Magneto and Captain America, Vietnam is integral to Forge and Karma. QUOTE]

i might be mistaken but karma is a little young to be in the war, maybe you are referring to something else.

Jack Flash
02-09-2005, 09:44 AM
what happened to Betsy's Psychic butterfly icon thing? When she went throgu the seige perilous did she lose it?

The Lucky One
02-09-2005, 09:47 AM
[QUOTE=Dizzy D]i might be mistaken but karma is a little young to be in the war, maybe you are referring to something else.

She was created in '81 or thereabouts, when it was realistic for her to have had the Vietnam War and its aftereffects be a part of her backstory. Now, with it being 25 years later but her only 5 or so years older, it's a lot tougher to reconcile.

-D

DDM
02-09-2005, 09:48 AM
what happened to Betsy's Psychic butterfly icon thing? When she went throgu the seige perilous did she lose it?

No, Psylocke's psychic butterfly avatar remains after her magickal transformation into an Asian ninja as Claremont showed it in Uncanny X-Men #256, 268, and 271. Other writers ignored Betsy's butterfly avatar though.

I'm sure Chris Claremont will re-establish Betsy's telepathic butterfly avatar later on in Uncanny X-Men, but she can't right now since she still possesses telekinetic powers.

MrBiggs7
02-09-2005, 10:33 AM
She was created in '81 or thereabouts, when it was realistic for her to have had the Vietnam War and its aftereffects be a part of her backstory. Now, with it being 25 years later but her only 5 or so years older, it's a lot tougher to reconcile.

-D

Word, holmes. We just have to suck it up and accept that we're all in love with a make believe universe who doesn't follow the conventional rules of time passing.

nubly
02-09-2005, 01:31 PM
i have a feww questions about emma's siblings. were her sister talked about before they made an appearance in generation x? was her bbrother talked about before her own series? and what happend to her brother?

gambitsgurl
02-09-2005, 02:16 PM
What about Maddrox and Distrct X, and Nightcrawler have they ended?
I hate when I start getting into things either on the tale end or after the end.
Thanks for your help with the Emma thing.
You will have to excuse me, I get caught up in the core books and then loose track of the other books and miniseries.

Ryan K
02-09-2005, 02:25 PM
What about Maddrox and Distrct X, and Nightcrawler have they ended?
I hate when I start getting into things either on the tale end or after the end.
Thanks for your help with the Emma thing.
You will have to excuse me, I get caught up in the core books and then loose track of the other books and miniseries.

Madrox was a mini series that ended with issue #5 last month. It was hinted at at the end of that book that Peter David was not yet done with the character though. Now whether that means Madrox will become an ongoing series, have another mini series, turn into an X-Factor book in some way, or if Peter David will move onto another x-book and take the character with him, we don't know.

I don't read District X and don't really follow any news surrounding it, but as far as I know it is not cancelled or at least it hasn't been announced that it is cancelled. I could be wrong though.

Nightcrawler is an interesting case. New issues have not been solicited in the previews for awhile now, but the one of the creators has said the book is not cancelled. So nobody's really sure.

streator
02-09-2005, 02:49 PM
I don't read District X and don't really follow any news surrounding it, but as far as I know it is not cancelled or at least it hasn't been announced that it is cancelled. I could be wrong though.
things dont look to well, basically. it is supposedly safe through either 16 or 18 issues, but its not selling well. marvel is still behind the title, but in areas that matter most to a company ($) distirct x may not be around much longer.

Hipnautik
02-11-2005, 06:14 PM
Sorry if these questions have been asked.

I'm new to X-men books, but I'm really digging Astonishing.

My questions are where did Kitty get a dragon?

I knew Emma was a telepath, but in issue 2 she turned herself into diamond? What's that about, that's a power I didn't know she had.

Where's Professer X?

Thanks!

Beast
02-11-2005, 06:22 PM
Sorry if these questions have been asked.

I'm new to X-men books, but I'm really digging Astonishing.

My questions are where did Kitty get a dragon?

I knew Emma was a telepath, but in issue 2 she turned herself into diamond? What's that about, that's a power I didn't know she had.

Where's Professer X?

Thanks!

The dragon's name is Lockheed. He became her 'pet' a long time ago, though he's actually much more intelligent than what you could call a pet. Kitty first maid friends with Lockheed while fighting the Brood on Slezeworld ages ago. Here's a better link to explain the who and whats behind ole Lockheed. :)

http://www.mutanthigh.com/lockheed.html

Emma gained the ability to turn into organic diamond in Grant Morrison's New X-Men. She was teaching students on Genosha (An island of mutants ruled by Magneto) when Sentinels destroyed the island and killed most of the mutant populace (16+ million). She developed a secondary mutation which saved her life. Morrison did this because he needed a 'Colossus Replacement'.

Professor X is on Genosha with Callisto and Magneto, rebuilding the country after it was destroyed by Sentinels. Their adventures are featured in Excalibur, which also stars Dark Beast and soon Angel. It's currently on Issue #9. And is a pretty damn good book, in my opinion. :)

Hipnautik
02-11-2005, 07:03 PM
Awesome thanks Beast!

Tommy
02-11-2005, 07:04 PM
We all know Scott is a ladies man but how many men has Emma been with?

DDM
02-11-2005, 07:13 PM
We all know Scott is a ladies man but how many men has Emma been with?

While White Queen, Emma Frost had some kind of affair with Black King, Sebastian Shaw; although an astral projection, Frost kissed Shaw telling him that she had kidnapped all of Xavier's New Mutants & Kitty Pryde for the Hellfire Club in Uncanny X-Men #182. Claremont never touched upon their relationship again. I'm sure both Shaw & Frost have had multiple sex partners...

MrBiggs7
02-12-2005, 12:03 AM
I picked up, for the first time, xmen:the end. It says ittakes place 15 years from the present. Its been full of some pretty depressing stuff. Is this the official end of the REAL xmen universe?

Grendel0606
02-12-2005, 12:04 AM
While White Queen, Emma Frost had some kind of affair with Black King, Sebastian Shaw; although an astral projection, Frost kissed Shaw telling him that she had kidnapped all of Xavier's New Mutants & Kitty Pryde for the Hellfire Club in Uncanny X-Men #182. Claremont never touched upon their relationship again.

They also smooched quite intently while frost'S mind was in Storm's body, IIRC (Uncanny 151-152)

The Fury
02-12-2005, 05:31 AM
I picked up, for the first time, xmen:the end. It says ittakes place 15 years from the present. Its been full of some pretty depressing stuff. Is this the official end of the REAL xmen universe?
No, X-men: The End, is basically a giant What if? story. I have taken it as a vision of the future from the Reload, therefore many things have already/will change that will make it not happen.

fishtaco
02-13-2005, 09:05 AM
does anyone know what happened to Selby?

mattbib
02-13-2005, 12:01 PM
does anyone know what happened to Selby?Nothing happened to Selby. He hasn't appeared since Excalibur #104.

MrBiggs7
02-13-2005, 12:57 PM
I know for Rogue its difficult for her to live her life with her powers. She can't make with the lovin', kiss anybody, give live birth to her children when she has them.

My question is if Rogue took "the cure" will she retain the powers she absorbed from Ms. Marvel? Those powers aren't a mutation and she can still be a valuable member of the xmen without her absorbing power.

mattbib
02-13-2005, 02:17 PM
Rogue's already lost the Ms. Marvel powers. But no, if she lost her mutant powers she'd lose all those powers she'd absorbed.

Alan2099
02-13-2005, 02:35 PM
I've been out of comics for a while, so now that I'm back, I have questions.

Whatever happened to Nimrod?

What happened to Adam-X? Was he actually the third Summers borther?

What exactly is Shatterstar's origin?

What happened to Post, Holocaust, and Dark beast?

Now did Nate Grey die?

Did Arcade even get his face healed up? I seem to recal having seen him with out the scars later on.

Wolverine was shown to have a son in the savage land at one point. Have we seen him since then?

In an old issue where the X-men where fighting Oxymadius and Wolverine was still noseless, it mentioned that Cyclops recived some brain damage to a part of his brain that had been damaged before. Did anything ever come out of that?

fishtaco
02-13-2005, 03:01 PM
I've been out of comics for a while, so now that I'm back, I have questions.

Whatever happened to Nimrod?

What happened to Adam-X? Was he actually the third Summers borther?

What exactly is Shatterstar's origin?

What happened to Post, Holocaust, and Dark beast?

Now did Nate Grey die?

Did Arcade even get his face healed up? I seem to recal having seen him with out the scars later on.

Wolverine was shown to have a son in the savage land at one point. Have we seen him since then?

In an old issue where the X-men where fighting Oxymadius and Wolverine was still noseless, it mentioned that Cyclops recived some brain damage to a part of his brain that had been damaged before. Did anything ever come out of that?
I can answer some of these.

Nimrod was destroyed in a 3-way fight between the Hellfire Club, the X-men, and Nimrod. This happened in Uncanny X-men 207-209. I think he was merged with Master Mold. Later, Bastion, the leader of Operation: Zero Tolerance was revealed to be Nimrod sorta. Not so sure. When Bastion was defeated, he went away for awhile. He later appeared in the Warlock series, and then I think Stryfe allegedly killed him in X-men annual 2000. But ya know Stryfe, cant trust a word he says. Nimrod will be back. Im pretty sure about this.

AdamX kinda went off into space. Yes, while in the comics it was never confirmed, Fabian Nicieza announced that he intended for X-treme to be the third Summers Brother, him being the illigitimate son of D'ken and Kate Summers. Unfortunately, current Marvel policy forbids the use of X-treme, because people might confuse him with X-treme X-men. (stupid Joe Quesada)

I dont know much about this. However, there is an upcoming X-Force: Shatterstar series starting in two weeks with Spiral, so maybe some of your questions will be answered.

Post kinda went away for awhile after Onslaught, and he was then seen as a member of ProfessorX's Brotherhood of Mutants along with mimic, blob, and toad in Uncanny X-men 363. He was also seen in Cable #72, when he and Cable ended their feud. However, he was later seen with Blob and Mystique's Brotherhood in the Dream's End crossover. The Brotherhood were on a mission to kill Senator Kelly. Post was about to kill him, but Pyro got in his way and killed him. Pyro died about 10 seconds later. That was in Cable #87.

Holocaust- Not so sure what has been going on with him. He's been out of the picture I think. However, you can expect him to be a big player in Exiles 60 and 61, which come out within a month.

Dark Beast- well, in X-factor, Havok broke him and Fatale out of prison, and they went somewhere. Dont know where they have been after that, but Dark Beast now is a major character in the current Excalibur series. He just got his ass handed to him by an unknown creature in the tunnels. Check out Excalibur!!!!

Nate Grey technically didnt die. He is still alive, but you can say he is dead and get away with it. In X-man #75, his cells scattered all over the world. He is now a part of everyone and everything. He has merged with everyone and everything. I want him back so bad.

dunno about Arcade.

dont know what your talkin about. Colossus had a son in the Savage Land, though.

The X-me fighting Ozymandias? Uncanny X-men 332? Dont remember talking about Cyke's blasts.

I hope that helped. Anymore questions, feel free to ask me. :)

Tommy
02-13-2005, 03:03 PM
Was it ever explained why Longshot had only four fingers?

DDM
02-13-2005, 03:04 PM
Was it ever explained why Longshot had only four fingers?

Mojo created Longshot to only have four fingers; he also possesses hollow bones & enhanced agility along with his luck powers.

MrBiggs7
02-13-2005, 03:11 PM
Rogue's already lost the Ms. Marvel powers. But no, if she lost her mutant powers she'd lose all those powers she'd absorbed.

How did that happen? Where the hell have I been?

DDM
02-13-2005, 03:17 PM
Whatever happened to Nimrod?

Nimrod & the Master Mold II merged into a single being called Bastion; Bastion hated mutants. Claremont intended both Master Mold II & Nimrod to be destroyed in Uncanny X-Men #247, but Scott Lobdell used the incident to created Bastion from the amalgam as a result of entering the Siege Perilous. Bastion was later destroyed, but not before he had created Prime Sentinels (human cyborg sentinels with nanotechnology). Many of the Prime Sentinels were not aware they themselves were Sentinels until the prime programming took over their brains when a mutant was spotted in a vicinity.

What happened to Adam-X? Was he actually the third Summers borther?

Adam X was never revealed to be the third Summers brother. This plot was dropped by the X-editors.

What exactly is Shatterstar's origin?

A confusing origin was revealed for Shatterstar in John Francis Moore's X-Force, but he left more questions than answers. Shatterstar is linked to Benjamin Moore in some way. The more I try to figure this out, the more confused I get.

What happened to Post, Holocaust, and Dark beast?

Holocaust will be a member of Exiles. Dark Beast is currently in Excalibur (volume 3).

Now did Nate Grey die?

Nate Grey literally spread his entire essence all over the Earth.


Did Arcade even get his face healed up? I seem to recal having seen him with out the scars later on.

Arcade is still missing in action, although Viper supposedly purchased Murderworld on Ebay as revealed in Uncanny X-Men #448-449.

Wolverine was shown to have a son in the savage land at one point. Have we seen him since then?

Not to my knowledge. The X-Men are going back tob Savage Land in Uncanny X-Men #455-460.

In an old issue where the X-men where fighting Oxymadius and Wolverine was still noseless, it mentioned that Cyclops recived some brain damage to a part of his brain that had been damaged before. Did anything ever come out of that?

Yes. Cyclops brain was damaged when, as a child, the parachute did not open correctly as it carried himself & his little brother, Alex Summers, to safety as Christopher Summers plane was abducted by the Shi'ar. As a result, Cyclops cannot control his optic blasts. Only ruby quartz lenses can help Cyclops with his mutant powers.

Ryan K
02-13-2005, 03:17 PM
How did that happen? Where the hell have I been?

In the Invasion arc in X-Treme X-Men her and Gambit both lost all of their powers.

At the end of the series Sage somehow jump started their powers back, but Rogue had permanently lost her Ms. Marvel powers.

I believe there are rumours that they will somehow be returned to her in her own series.

Alan2099
02-13-2005, 03:35 PM
I know that Cyclops couldn't control his powers due to brain damage, but in a pre-Onslught comic it's said that the portion of Cyclops brain that was damaged had been damaged again. That's what i was askign about.

As for Wolverine's kid. I'm not sure if I'm remembering correctly, but I'm pretty sure it was in the special where he fought the robot Apocaluypse in the Savage land.

DDM
02-13-2005, 03:37 PM
I know that Cyclops couldn't control his powers due to brain damage, but in a pre-Onslught comic it's said that the portion of Cyclops brain that was damaged had been damaged again. That's what i was askign about.

As for Wolverine's kid. I'm not sure if I'm remembering correctly, but I'm pretty sure it was in the special where he fought the robot Apocaluypse in the Savage land.

Nope, none of the X-editors made a big deal about Cyclops second brain damage incident; however, he has been whining about being possessed by Apoclaypse to Emma Frost in New X-Men...

Dizzy D
02-13-2005, 05:10 PM
A confusing origin was revealed for Shatterstar in John Francis Moore's X-Force, but he left more questions than answers. Shatterstar is linked to Benjamin Moore in some way. The more I try to figure this out, the more confused I get.

Jeph Loeb was the writer on that story, JFM didn't become writer until several issues after that story. And it's Benjamin Russel, not Benjamin Moore.

I know that Cyclops couldn't control his powers due to brain damage, but in a pre-Onslught comic it's said that the portion of Cyclops brain that was damaged had been damaged again. That's what i was askign about.

I think I know what story you refer to and if it is that one, it's a misinterpretation: Cyclops brain wasn't damaged again, but Cyclops and Jean returned to their original bodies after spending 9 years in the future in cloned bodies (in Scott's case a body without brain damage). Jean wanted to know how Scott was dealing with having no control again. (If it is another story, just ignore this)

Arcade was seen in Agent X without the scars on his face (and before that in issues of Spider-Man). Guy is a multi-millionaire, I guess he can afford a good plastic surgeon.

fishtaco
02-13-2005, 06:27 PM
Guy is a multi-millionaire, I guess he can afford a good plastic surgeon.
and thats why he should have been in the Hellfire Club this past arc.

The Lucky One
02-13-2005, 11:24 PM
Was it ever explained why Longshot had only four fingers?

His creator, Arize -- one of the Spineless Ones who had built himself an artificial spine -- modeled he and the entire slave race after the nightmarish creatures that had haunted the dreams of the Spineless Ones since the infancy of their civilization. They happened to look like humans (though it was later retconned into being due to earth TV broadcasts sent back in time... bleh), but with one less finger. And an extra heart, and hollow bones, and all that good stuff. The good luck power, on the other hand, is the result of a mystical ceremony conducted by Longshot's rebel band, not Arize's doing.

-D

fishtaco
02-17-2005, 09:34 AM
On the FAQ here, Mattbib said that Quiksilver was an X-man. When was that? Why did he join? Why did he leave? I know he was living with the X-men for awhile like in Uncanny X-men 337-338, but otherwise I have no idea. Help?

jade_nova
02-17-2005, 10:13 AM
When did Bishop lose/cut his hair?

DDM
02-17-2005, 12:45 PM
When did Bishop lose/cut his hair?

Uncanny X-Men #444, although his style had changed gradually throughout X-Treme X-Men's whole run.

riotgear
02-17-2005, 03:26 PM
I think I know what story you refer to and if it is that one, it's a misinterpretation: Cyclops brain wasn't damaged again, but Cyclops and Jean returned to their original bodies after spending 9 years in the future in cloned bodies (in Scott's case a body without brain damage). Jean wanted to know how Scott was dealing with having no control again. (If it is another story, just ignore this)

Actually, not quite. In Uncanny X-Men (vol.1) #339 (the issue that Alan2099 is talking about), Cyclops has a substantial fall, and strikes his head on an outstretched rock. I forget the exact words (I can look it up tonight), but it states in the writer's soliloquy that the blow undoes brain damage once done by another fall years ago. So, in essence, Cyclops' brain-damage is now gone, but is unaware of the change. It's not like he has an MRI every year. If he were to find this out, all he would have to do is practice the trigger.

mattbib
02-17-2005, 03:31 PM
Actually, not quite. In Uncanny X-Men (vol.1) #339 (the issue that Alan2099 is talking about), Cyclops has a substantial fall, and strikes his head on an outstretched rock. I forget the exact words (I can look it up tonight), but it states in the writer's soliloquy that the blow undoes brain damage once done by another fall years ago. So, in essence, Cyclops' brain-damage is now gone, but is unaware of the change. It's not like he has an MRI every year. If he were to find this out, all he would have to do is practice the trigger.Was this during Seagal's run or someone else's? Chances are the writer who planted that occurrence was ousted soon thereafter, and following writers didn't know it or decided not to touch on it.

riotgear
02-17-2005, 03:38 PM
Was this during Seagal's run or someone else's? Chances are the writer who planted that occurrence was ousted soon thereafter, and following writers didn't know it or decided not to touch on it.

I'm sorry, it wasn't UXM 339, it was Wolverine #102. If I remember correctly, it was Larry Hama who was writing. Again, I'll check. It's on the first couple of pages (I don't remember exactly which one).

fishtaco
02-17-2005, 04:59 PM
I'm sorry, it wasn't UXM 339, it was Wolverine #102. If I remember correctly, it was Larry Hama who was writing. Again, I'll check. It's on the first couple of pages (I don't remember exactly which one).
In Uncanny X-men 339, while he is fighting Havok, he almost fell on a bunch of sharp and jaggedy rocks and died, but Storm saved him when he was about 2 inches from the ground.

Dizzy D
02-17-2005, 06:17 PM
Actually, not quite. In Uncanny X-Men (vol.1) #339 (the issue that Alan2099 is talking about), Cyclops has a substantial fall, and strikes his head on an outstretched rock. I forget the exact words (I can look it up tonight), but it states in the writer's soliloquy that the blow undoes brain damage once done by another fall years ago. So, in essence, Cyclops' brain-damage is now gone, but is unaware of the change. It's not like he has an MRI every year. If he were to find this out, all he would have to do is practice the trigger.

Ah, I was thinking of another issue.

The bit about a blow to the brains undoing damage does seem very weird though.

The Fury
02-20-2005, 11:36 AM
Alright, question about X-23.

Becuase of her 'engineering' is she telepathically immune or at least highly resistant?

Crimson
02-20-2005, 12:25 PM
Alright, question about X-23.

Becuase of her 'engineering' is she telepathically immune or at least highly resistant?

Is Wolverine like?

It hasn't been mentioned in any issues I've read. Has anyone read NYX cause thats the only X-23 stuff I haven't read.

MrBiggs7
02-20-2005, 01:11 PM
If Woverine had his hand cut off could he regenerate a new one? What are the limitations to his healing factor?

Siddon
02-20-2005, 01:15 PM
no see Age of Apocaylpse

yes see Ultimate X-men


Question: With Mystique ending this month any word on what comic they will transfer the subscribers to?

Ryan K
02-20-2005, 01:33 PM
Alright, question about X-23.

Becuase of her 'engineering' is she telepathically immune or at least highly resistant?

Nothing's been mentioned about anything like that in any of her appearences so far (including NYX). :)

mattbib
02-20-2005, 01:49 PM
no see Age of Apocaylpse

yes see Ultimate X-men


Question: With Mystique ending this month any word on what comic they will transfer the subscribers to?I've never subscribed through Marvel, and I know they used to automatically transfer a subscription of a cancelled series to a "similar" series, but here's what's on Marvel.com regarding cancelled series:

"If a title you have subscribed to has been cancelled, you have several options. You can request a refund for undelivered copies, have your subscription balance transferred to another title or an extension on an existing subscription."

I wonder, though, if they just automatically transfer to something else unless they receive specific instructions from a subscriber.

Turd_Ferguson
02-20-2005, 04:37 PM
When did Bishop lose/cut his hair?

Actually, the first time Bishop ever showed up with short hair would be in X-Men (vol 2) #46, shortly after the return from the age of apocalypse. This was the first issue of a two issue arc involving the X-Babies.

Tyrone Slothrop
02-21-2005, 06:27 AM
I recently read the Morrison back issues… could anyone tell me if it was ever revealed who the 6ft 2 male was who knocked out Sage during the Murder at the Mansion arc?

The Lucky One
02-21-2005, 07:25 AM
Xorneto.

-D

DDM
02-21-2005, 08:49 AM
I recently read the Morrison back issues… could anyone tell me if it was ever revealed who the 6ft 2 male was who knocked out Sage during the Murder at the Mansion arc?

The suspect who knocked out Sage was Xorn who eventually revealed himself to be "Magneto."

DDM
02-21-2005, 08:50 AM
If Woverine had his hand cut off could he regenerate a new one? What are the limitations to his healing factor?

With his adamantium bones, Wolverine's hand can never really be severed from his body.

Crimson
02-21-2005, 09:41 AM
With his adamantium bones, Wolverine's hand can never really be severed from his body.

Yes it can... you just have to cut the ligaments as those are normal.

Tyrone Slothrop
02-21-2005, 09:43 AM
The suspect who knocked out Sage was Xorn who eventually revealed himself to be "Magneto."

I thought that was possible, but wasn't Xorn described as being 8ft tall?
Or was xorn 8ft tall due to his costume and magneto smaller inside? :confused:

Crimson
02-21-2005, 09:47 AM
I thought that was possible, but wasn't Xorn described as being 8ft tall?
Or was xorn 8ft tall due to his costume and magneto smaller inside? :confused:

Apparantly it wasn't really Magneto just Xorn who was affected by Sublime and went crazy... and ended up thinking he was Magneto.

Its a VERY confusing subject.

Turd_Ferguson
02-21-2005, 11:13 AM
Yes it can... you just have to cut the ligaments as those are normal.

Exactly. It did happen in AoA Wolverine, who had his hand blasted off by Cyclops.

MrBiggs7
02-21-2005, 11:30 AM
ok how about this: since diamond can cut diamond can adamantium cut adamantium? In MTU Wolvie retracted his claws right into his head so it seems so.

The Lucky One
02-21-2005, 11:50 AM
If you put enough force behind it, yes, adamantum could cut adamantium. The problem is that Wolverine is only slightly stronger than your average Olympic athlete- he doesn't have true super-strength, per se. That being the case, will he be able to put enough force behind his claws to make them cut adamantium? That's the real question, and the reason him cutting the Hulk's skin has always been a little questionable.

-D

Risque
02-21-2005, 01:01 PM
Just a basic 'when were they last seen' post, as I have been out of the core X-Titles for a while :)

Siryn
Warpath
Banshee
Dazzler
Skids
Sunspot
Firestar
Rictor
Darkstar

Thanks :)

fishtaco
02-21-2005, 01:42 PM
Just a basic 'when were they last seen' post, as I have been out of the core X-Titles for a while :)

Siryn
Warpath
Banshee
Dazzler
Skids
Sunspot
Firestar
Rictor
Darkstar

Thanks :)
no prob

Siryn is a member of X-Corps in Paris

Warpath is a member of X-Corps in Mumbai

Banshee- Crippled by Mystique after founding X-Corps. In hospital. Hasnt been seen since Uncanny X-men 406 :(

Dazzler- Last appeared in some issue of Deadpool I think. I dont know where she is now.

Skids- Last appeared in X-treme X-men, in the Prisoner of Fire story arc (X-treme X-men #'s 40-46). Member of X-Corps L.A. Helped the X-men fight Elias Bogan.

Sunspot- Appeared with Skids in the Prisoner of Fire arc, as the leader of X-Corps in L.A. Recently appeared in Uncanny X-men 453-455 as the Hellfire Club's Lord Imperial. Hellfire Club is being used for good.

Firestar- no idea.

Rictor- X-Corps somewhere. Might appear in the upcoming Shatterstar series, but no one is sure.

Darkstar- DEAD. Mindcontrolled by Weapon15 or something in New X-men. Killed by Fantomex.

Hope that helped. Just about everyone you asked about was in X-Corps at some time. :)

mattbib
02-21-2005, 02:18 PM
Firestar- no idea.
I believe Firestar, in her reserve Avenger status, was last seen during the Kang War.

Risque
02-21-2005, 02:22 PM
And this X-Corps, is this something that appears regularly in the titles or is it just a way to explain where these characters are and is a new name for X-Limbo? ;)

The Fury
02-21-2005, 02:28 PM
And this X-Corps, is this something that appears regularly in the titles or is it just a way to explain where these characters are and is a new name for X-Limbo? ;)
X-Corps was an organisation formed by Banshee based in Paris that was meant to be like a police force for mutants, it failed, but Xavier took it upon himself to revive it, with more world wide bases. Many X-characters that are not in one of the main titles are at one.

Actually I'd like it to appear more in the titles. It's only be seen about 5 or 6 times really.

But yeah basically a way to placing the unused X-characters.

Crimson
02-21-2005, 02:43 PM
ok how about this: since diamond can cut diamond can adamantium cut adamantium? In MTU Wolvie retracted his claws right into his head so it seems so.

It didn't though... because it didn't go throw his head it pushed his arms away from his head so they could come out. Thats how he got out of Spider-Mans webbing.

phoenixrising
02-21-2005, 05:21 PM
Ok, admittedly, I haven't read this thread in forever, so I might be asking something redundant: I think the Endsong series is going very well so far...but I gotta ask...is this actually supposedly happening in the 616? Cause I've seen no signs of it in any other book.

(I know, we all hate crossovers, but some semblence of continuity would be nice...)

mattbib
02-21-2005, 05:47 PM
Ok, admittedly, I haven't read this thread in forever, so I might be asking something redundant: I think the Endsong series is going very well so far...but I gotta ask...is this actually supposedly happening in the 616? Cause I've seen no signs of it in any other book.

(I know, we all hate crossovers, but some semblence of continuity would be nice...)That's my understanding. If anything there might be effects once Endsong is over.

MrBiggs7
02-21-2005, 06:08 PM
i asked this question before. its supposedly happening in 616 but in an alternate reality. i still dont understand the concept but i think AOA is 616 as well but because something was disturbed in the past it created an alternate present.

mattbib
02-21-2005, 06:12 PM
i asked this question before. its supposedly happening in 616 but in an alternate reality.That doesn't make any sense. If it's happeneing in an alternate reality it's not possible for it to be happening in 616.

Beast
02-21-2005, 06:15 PM
i asked this question before. its supposedly happening in 616 but in an alternate reality. i still dont understand the concept but i think AOA is 616 as well but because something was disturbed in the past it created an alternate present.
An alternate reality wouldn't be the 616 Universe reality. Remember that the events in one book could be set slightly ahead or behind of the events in other books. The best thing to do is wait til the mini is over, and then you'll likely be able to figure out where things fit together. Yes, AOA was once the 616 reality... but once the timeline was corrected, AOA became a divergant reality. :)

MrBiggs7
02-21-2005, 06:40 PM
i didn't mean alternate reality-i meant alternate future

MrBiggs7
02-21-2005, 06:43 PM
An alternate reality wouldn't be the 616 Universe reality. Remember that the events in one book could be set slightly ahead or behind of the events in other books. The best thing to do is wait til the mini is over, and then you'll likely be able to figure out where things fit together. Yes, AOA was once the 616 reality... but once the timeline was corrected, AOA became a divergant reality. :)

the fact that aoa wasn't given its own number leads me to believe that its a twisted 616. these different dimmensions do not connect anywhere but a single dimmension can have an infinite number of futures and outcomes without it becoming another dimmension.

MrBiggs7
02-21-2005, 06:43 PM
if i had a pen and we were in person i'd love to draw out a diagram of my theory

Beast
02-21-2005, 06:43 PM
i didn't mean alternate reality-i meant alternate future
It's not. It's a current time/current timeline story. We just haven't been filled in on when it takes place in relation to the other books. :)

Beast
02-21-2005, 06:47 PM
the fact that aoa wasn't given its own number leads me to believe that its a twisted 616. these different dimmensions do not connect anywhere but a single dimmension can have an infinite number of futures and outcomes without it becoming another dimmension.
We don't know that it wasn't given it's own number. Originally it was 616, but altered due to the events that occured. Once the reality was put right, the AOA reality didn't phase out of existance. It became a alternate reality all it's own, because AOA never happened in the 616 universe anymore. That's why the AOA universe can still exist in the upcoming miniseries. The same thing happened in 1602, the divergant reality split off to form it's own alternate reality. :)

MrBiggs7
02-21-2005, 06:49 PM
It's not. It's a current time/current timeline story. We just haven't been filled in on when it takes place in relation to the other books. :)

true true, it is the definate story of the end as of now because nothing has happened to change it yet. but remember there are many many stories telling the future that has nothing to do with the end. because its the future and in the 616 reality it can still be altered

Beast
02-21-2005, 06:56 PM
true true, it is the definate story of the end as of now because nothing has happened to change it yet. but remember there are many many stories telling the future that has nothing to do with the end. because its the future and in the 616 reality it can still be altered
*sighs* The only possible future comics on the racks right now is 'X-Men: The End'. This book is in the 616 reality, it's taking place some point in the current canon. And it's not a 'possible future', it's the current present.

Turd_Ferguson
02-21-2005, 07:22 PM
i asked this question before. its supposedly happening in 616 but in an alternate reality. i still dont understand the concept but i think AOA is 616 as well but because something was disturbed in the past it created an alternate present.


AoA is NOT 616. It is an alternate timeline, and was never presented as anything but that. Everyone knew when it came out that it was not permanent.
616 is only current mainstream marvel continuity. Although I believe all futures that are presented in the comics are all supposed to be "possible alternate futures"

Days of Future Past is an alternate future that has since been avoided, the same with Bishop's future and Cable's future.

MrBiggs7
02-22-2005, 12:48 AM
*sighs* The only possible future comics on the racks right now is 'X-Men: The End'. This book is in the 616 reality, it's taking place some point in the current canon. And it's not a 'possible future', it's the current present.

when i said there are many books out i did not mean currently. i did not mean they are on the racks right now. i'm not sure why you wouldn't realize that i mean books like days of future past or bishop's timeline.

now what i dont understand is how you refer to the end as "the only possible future comics on the rack right now" then go on to say that "it's not a 'possible future', it's the current present." Please explain that to me and include your definitions of this comic jargon that i obviously do not understand.

MrBiggs7
02-22-2005, 12:50 AM
AoA is NOT 616. It is an alternate timeline, and was never presented as anything but that. Everyone knew when it came out that it was not permanent.
616 is only current mainstream marvel continuity. Although I believe all futures that are presented in the comics are all supposed to be "possible alternate futures"

Days of Future Past is an alternate future that has since been avoided, the same with Bishop's future and Cable's future.

its an alternate timeline of the 616. you obviously do not understand my theory on the difference between alternate timelines and alternate dimensions

mattbib
02-22-2005, 12:52 AM
now what i dont understand is how you refer to the end as "the only possible future comics on the rack right now" then go on to say that "it's not a 'possible future', it's the current present." Please explain that to me and include your definitions of this comic jargon that i obviously do not understand.He meant that Phoenix: Endsong takes place in the current pressent. He just worded it confusingly.

mattbib
02-22-2005, 12:55 AM
its an alternate timeline of the 616. you obviously do not understand my theory on the difference between alternate timelines and alternate dimensionsIn the Marvel Universe they're one and the same. Alternate dimensions/realities exist because a timeline has split at some juncture.

Alternate dimensions/realities should not be confused with other dimensions that exist within the various universes (i.e. demon realms, subdimensional realms, etc.).

Dizzy D
02-22-2005, 01:45 AM
He meant that Phoenix: Endsong takes place in the current pressent. He just worded it confusingly.

The current present? So not the future present or the past present? *insert smiley*

The Fury
02-22-2005, 03:47 AM
I'm not meening to be annoying on these fronts but:

the fact that aoa wasn't given its own number
626

I heard.

And:
Days of Future Past is an alternate future that has since been avoided, the same with Bishop's future and Cable's future.
Bishop's and Cable future could still come to pass. DoFP was changed because the actual event that changed the path to it was avoided. But we do not know if Bishops stopping Onslaught stopped his future (as there is now a new traitor in the mansion), and whether the death of Apocalypse caused stopped Cable's (Pocy could return at any time).

I'm being picky, I know.

Dizzy D
02-22-2005, 06:43 AM
I'm not meening to be annoying on these fronts but:


626

I heard.

And:

Bishop's and Cable future could still come to pass. DoFP was changed because the actual event that changed the path to it was avoided. But we do not know if Bishops stopping Onslaught stopped his future (as there is now a new traitor in the mansion), and whether the death of Apocalypse caused stopped Cable's (Pocy could return at any time).

I'm being picky, I know.

I thought that Bishop's future was the same timeline as the DoFP future (mentioned in one of his early appearances and the Sentinel takeover of the world happened in his timeline as well) DoFP wasn't changed, it's just that the events in the regular MU were changed by Kitty stopping Destiny from killing Senator Kelly so it couldn't become DoFP. DoFP still exists (as proven by Rachel coming to the regular timeline, Days of Future Present and Days of Future Tensem, all happening after Kitty stopping Destiny)

And Cable's future is erased (specifically mentioned in Weinberg's run: Cable attracted the attention of other timetravellers after erasing the Askani future as well as Rachel now never becoming Mother Askani). Yes, Apocalypse can return and a similar future may come to pass, but it won't be the exact same future.

iGotKittyPryde
02-22-2005, 09:18 AM
Man... people, stop making my head hurt. Phoenix Endsong is happening in the same reality as Astonishing, Uncanny etc. it's just not been shown where it fits in... I wouldn't be surpised if it fits in with the end of the Astonishing run and leads in somehow to House of M. That's only a guess but man, it isn't a freaking alternate reality or they might have, you know, mentioned it.

MrBiggs7
02-22-2005, 09:21 AM
holy hell, i didn't even read that dude's whole question. I saw the word 'end' and skimmed through it and figured they were talking about the end. my bad

The Fury
02-22-2005, 09:38 AM
I thought that Bishop's future was the same timeline as the DoFP future (mentioned in one of his early appearances and the Sentinel takeover of the world happened in his timeline as well) DoFP wasn't changed, it's just that the events in the regular MU were changed by Kitty stopping Destiny from killing Senator Kelly so it couldn't become DoFP. DoFP still exists (as proven by Rachel coming to the regular timeline, Days of Future Present and Days of Future Tensem, all happening after Kitty stopping Destiny)

In the cartoon, that is true but as for comics I always assumed that Bishops was different. Take it this way, while DoFP was overtaken by Sentinel's, the X-men were killed by them, in that timeline, Jean Grey was never ressurected. But in Bishops future she was able to record that message that refered to Onslaught.

As far as I will take it they are separate Futures.

But you are right about the fact they exist, all alternate futures exist. As long as their timeline exist. Which for most cases is the 616. Of course then some people would argue that the AoA nlonger exists, but it like any other alternate reality do still exist.

Man, I love alternate future/reality stuff.

fishtaco
02-22-2005, 11:16 AM
On Matbib's FAQ, it says that Quiksilver was an X-man. When was this? When did he join and why? When and why did he leave? thanks.

mattbib
02-22-2005, 12:18 PM
On Matbib's FAQ, it says that Quiksilver was an X-man. When was this? When did he join and why? When and why did he leave? thanks.He's only considered an X-Man by association. During the time that he was with X-Factor and the period during which he resided at the mansion.

iGotKittyPryde
02-22-2005, 12:49 PM
He's only considered an X-Man by association. During the time that he was with X-Factor and the period during which he resided at the mansion.

He also was part of the strike force against Magneto in X-Men (2nd series) #25 and was the only one on the team that wasn't normally appearing in the two main books. So he was sort of "an X-Man" there too.

jade_nova
02-22-2005, 03:41 PM
Any idea if we will see Angel and her children ever again?

Beast
02-22-2005, 04:27 PM
Any idea if we will see Angel and her children ever again?
The only place they would make sense is Academy X. Nunzio and Christina have no plans for them to appear. The only other place would be Exiles, when/if Beak completes his time with them and gets to go home. :)

Dizzy D
02-22-2005, 07:17 PM
In the cartoon, that is true but as for comics I always assumed that Bishops was different. Take it this way, while DoFP was overtaken by Sentinel's, the X-men were killed by them, in that timeline, Jean Grey was never ressurected. But in Bishops future she was able to record that message that refered to Onslaught.

As far as I will take it they are separate Futures.

No, Jean Grey never died in DOFP's timeline (at least not until the Sentinels attack started). Remember Jean/Phoenix had Rachel in Days of Future Past. And Onslaught would have happened before the Sentinel attack. (Onslaught killing the X-men or not means nothing, for all Bishop knows about a traitor/ the X-men being killed etc. is one broken-up message by Jean Grey out of context.) I'm pretty sure Bishop was mentioned to be from DoFP in the comics as well (mostly because I never saw the cartoon), but it must have been one of his first appearances.
And the Sentinels took over the world in Bishop's future as well; hence the M on Bishop, Shard and the other XSE-members eyes.

The Fury
02-23-2005, 02:49 AM
*Thinks* OK, Dizzy you are right on the Jean thing, but I do still think the 2 futures are separate. There are many inconsistancies between them, things that by the time Bishop's future been shown was different from the DoFP future. Gambit still alive and being called The Witness, as in the Witness to the death of the X-men, by the traitor. In the DoFP they were killed by the Sentinels.

I'm started to get confused so I'm stopping there.

Crimson
02-23-2005, 03:05 AM
Has Phoenix Endsong #3 been released? I hope I haven't missed it...

The Fury
02-23-2005, 03:23 AM
No, It's Out today.

Crimson
02-23-2005, 04:55 AM
No, It's Out today.

Awesome! Hopefully spoilers will be kept in one topic unlike Wolverine 25 :D Can't wait to get this with my two week comic package next week.

Thanks Fury.

Dizzy D
02-23-2005, 05:01 AM
*Thinks* OK, Dizzy you are right on the Jean thing, but I do still think the 2 futures are separate. There are many inconsistancies between them, things that by the time Bishop's future been shown was different from the DoFP future. Gambit still alive and being called The Witness, as in the Witness to the death of the X-men, by the traitor. In the DoFP they were killed by the Sentinels.

I'm started to get confused so I'm stopping there.

Like I said in my previous post: it was never said in Bishop's future that the X-men were killed by a traitor. Bishop saw Jean's message, assumed that it revealed the true death of the X-men (by then little was known of the X-men, they were more legend than history). He visits the Witness on the subject and the Witness tells him absolutely nothing on the whole subject.

Also the Summers Revolution defeated the Sentinels in Bishop's timeline -> Rachel Summers went back to her own future and reprogrammed the Sentinels to protect all life; human and mutant. (Never stated the the two were the same, but the coincidence is remarkable)

forepac
02-24-2005, 01:17 PM
I don't really know a whole lot about Longshot, but I've been doing some research here & at UXN, and the one question I can't get a good answer to is this: when Longshot was a regular on the X-Men, who else was on the team? Dazzler is a pretty obvious answer to that one, but who else filled up the roster? Just curious - thanks!

fishtaco
02-24-2005, 01:27 PM
I don't really know a whole lot about Longshot, but I've been doing some research here & at UXN, and the one question I can't get a good answer to is this: when Longshot was a regular on the X-Men, who else was on the team? Dazzler is a pretty obvious answer to that one, but who else filled up the roster? Just curious - thanks!
Havok, Storm, Psylocke, Wolverine, Dazzler, Rogue, Gateway, Colossus, Madelyne Pryor (not really an X-man), and MAYBE Jubilee. Im not too sure though.

ahhh, good ol' Australian Days. :)

The Lucky One
02-24-2005, 01:27 PM
Storm (leader; powerless)
Wolverine
Colossus
Havok
Dazzler
Rogue
Psylocke (British)
Madelyne Pryor (sorta)
Gateway (unofficial)

Jubilee was hanging around on the fringes at the tail end of Longshot's time with the team, but I don't think they ever interacted.

And hey, any other Longshot questions, let me know!
:)

-D

DDM
02-24-2005, 01:29 PM
Storm (leader)
Wolverine
Colossus
Rogue
Longshot
Dazzler
Psylocke
Havok
Gateway (unofficial member)

However, Longshot officially joined the X-Men in Uncanny X-Men Annual #10 (happens after Uncanny X-Men #210 when Rachel Summers is abducted by Spiral from the events of Uncanny X-Men #207-209) right before the Mutant Massacre occurred in Uncanny X-Men #211-214. Therefore, Shadowcat & Nightcrawler were official members & Betsy Braddock had not joined the team yet, but she was at the school after the events from The New Mutants Annual #2.

Longshot's membership is from Uncanny X-Men Annual #10, Uncanny X-Men #215-248, Uncanny X-Men Annuals #11-13.

forepac
02-24-2005, 01:40 PM
Thanks for all the speedy replies - I appreciate it! Now, on to back-issue hunting... :)

newscott
02-24-2005, 02:46 PM
Those issues are my favorites in all of the x-men run. They still hold up and while there are some poor single issues (M-squad), there are some truly great ones as well (Logan and Rogue in Genosha).

Steven F.
02-24-2005, 03:03 PM
Ahhhh....the Aussie days....my FAVORITE team, even if it didn't have my fav members.

Storm
Rogue
Psylocke
Dazzler
Longshot
Colossus
Wolverine
Havok
Maddie (I count her)
Gateway - I agree with the higher post

Jubilee later, sort of....kinda

Titan Slade
02-24-2005, 08:33 PM
Also, you had Silvestri on art for a lot of these stories.

Tyrone Slothrop
02-26-2005, 06:19 AM
I've recently been reading some older Chris Claremont comics that were published in the gap I was away from comics. Now as a big CC fan I have to say that this miniseries was probably the worst thing I've ever read by him.
What I want to know is why did a five issue mini series have four different scripters? was chris removed after issue one? Was Illayana meant to come back, but then editorial overruled it? I've read all 5 issues and I just don't know what to think about it. Any info greatfully recieved.

tenchi03
02-26-2005, 07:53 AM
What is his current status and powers?

mgs
02-26-2005, 08:05 AM
...has anyone from the x universe ever been known to 'own' sabertooth in a fight like power man and spider man?

The Fury
02-26-2005, 09:03 AM
What is his current status and powers?
There is a thread here in the MU forum about him, all the information you need will be there.

http://forums.comicbookresources.com/showthread.php?t=44259

Or a quick answer, he is residing in Otherworld as Monach of the Multiverse and has god like abilities.

fishtaco
02-26-2005, 10:09 AM
...has anyone from the x universe ever been known to 'own' sabertooth in a fight like power man and spider man?
Northstar just kicked his ass in X-men 164.

The Lucky One
02-26-2005, 12:19 PM
Black Sun was definitely bad, bad stuff. And that's from another huge CC fan. That's why even the upcoming 30th anniversary cash-in special (featuring 3 stories from before that team debuted) can't be as bad as the 25th anniversary Black Sun mini. Ugh.

Captain Britain has all of Roma's powers now, I believe. He's the omniversal guardian.

Sabretooth got owned (and killed) by the Neo. 17 times. So did Mr. Sinister. Caliban put a hurting on him in New Mutants #91 or so. Jean completely knocked the stuffing out of Sabes in X-Men #28. ("You are a firecracker. I am an atom bomb.") And Psylocke has both gotten whupped and handed him a whuppin' before.

-D

nubly
02-26-2005, 02:08 PM
which issue did wolverine's alleged daughter appear in? not x-23, rancorn or wild thing. the one that may take place in the actual reality

Trystenn
02-26-2005, 10:27 PM
Quick Question? How Fast is Northstar?

Whos Faster QuickSilver or Northstar?

Does Storm have a son thats a speedster? What are his stats?

And what about SpeedDemon? Is he a Mutant?

What About Mongoose?

The Fury
02-27-2005, 07:42 AM
Quick Question? How Fast is Northstar?

Whos Faster QuickSilver or Northstar?

Does Storm have a son thats a speedster? What are his stats?

And what about SpeedDemon? Is he a Mutant?

What About Mongoose?
1) Northstar has a maximum speed at MACH 10, or as the Speed of sound (MACH 1) is about 720 mph he can travel (while running or in flight) 7200 mph.

2) Quicksilvers speed is confusing, originally I don't think he could run past the Speed of sound but now with his imrpovement he can run much much much faster. I don't think a top speed has ever been mentioned but I expect him to be faster than Northstar. Northstar rarely chooses to go to his max.

3) Storms son that was a speedster was from the 90's cartoon only, not in the MU. I've no Idea of his speed.

4) SpeedDemon , I think, can't run past 200 mph, still fast but no where near the above 2. He is not a mutant.

5) Again Mongoose is a bit vauge, I don't think he is a mutant, but maybe a gentic experiemtn by the High Evolutionary. Again speed I don't think has been recorded.


I recognise a pattern in this questioning, Speedsters: :)

Here are some of the main mutant Speedsters in the MU:

Quicksilver
Northstar
Aurora (can no longer bgreak the speed of Sound)
Speed Freak (speed ?)
Super Sabre (Super sonic speed).

You could include Sabra (max 60-70mph) and Warpath (max 125-140 mph) as they move pretty fast or any of the time shifters, Tempo, being one., they make it so they appear to be moving fast when everyone else is really moving slowly.

Hope this helps. :) If I went to far, again :)

mattbib
02-27-2005, 12:02 PM
which issue did wolverine's alleged daughter appear in? not x-23, rancorn or wild thing. the one that may take place in the actual realityX-23 is his alleged daughter in actual reality. She first appeared in NYX.

Grendel0606
02-27-2005, 12:04 PM
X-23 is his alleged daughter in actual reality. She first appeared in NYX.
No, X-23 is a clone. Wolverine does seem to have a real offspring (gender unknown) after a one-night stand with a tribal woman from the SAvage Land as seen in the Special Wolverine - the Jungle adventure

mattbib
02-27-2005, 12:10 PM
No, X-23 is a clone. Wolverine does seem to have a real offspring (gender unknown) after a one-night stand with a tribal woman from the SAvage Land as seen in the Special Wolverine - the Jungle adventureIs Jungle Adventure even canon? If so, then I believe that'r that child's only appearance.

His only other "daughter" would be Amiko. Or maybe the Native. I stopped reading that arc so I don't know who/what she was.

Grendel0606
02-27-2005, 12:32 PM
Is Jungle Adventure even canon?

No reason why it wouldn't be, I guess.

Crimson
02-28-2005, 03:16 AM
Is Jungle Adventure even canon? If so, then I believe that'r that child's only appearance.

His only other "daughter" would be Amiko. Or maybe the Native. I stopped reading that arc so I don't know who/what she was.

Native isn't his daugther. That or their incest.

The Lucky One
02-28-2005, 06:58 AM
No reason why it wouldn't be, I guess.

I seem to remember reading somewhere that it was considered out-of-continuity. I may be confusing it with Batman's Son of the Demon, though.

As for Northstar, his top speed is Mach 10, but I believe it's been mentioned before that he can't actually go that fast because of pollutants in the air. Quicksilver's top speed is presently unknown, except for being faster than sound and thought.

-D

Grendel0606
02-28-2005, 07:28 AM
I seem to remember reading somewhere that it was considered out-of-continuity. I may be confusing it with Batman's Son of the Demon, though.

As for Northstar, his top speed is Mach 10, but I believe it's been mentioned before that he can't actually go that fast because of pollutants in the air. Quicksilver's top speed is presently unknown, except for being faster than sound and thought.

-D
Son of the Demon is definitely out of continuity (And more's the pity - guess we will never see Ibn al Xufash in mainstream continuity), but I thought that unlike DC Marvel aren't so big on declaring a story out of continuity. Hence I am somewaht surprised at the idea.

Dizzy D
02-28-2005, 07:50 AM
I seem to remember reading somewhere that it was considered out-of-continuity. I may be confusing it with Batman's Son of the Demon, though.

As for Northstar, his top speed is Mach 10, but I believe it's been mentioned before that he can't actually go that fast because of pollutants in the air. Quicksilver's top speed is presently unknown, except for being faster than sound and thought.

-D

I remember that it was said in the Handbooks that Northstar's top speed was near-lightspeed, but he can only reach Mach 10 due to friction and limitations on his own body (not to mention going lightspeed on Earth would mean killing everybody on it).

Quicksilver was stated to move at a maximum of 190 mph in X-factor, but Peter David has admitted that he has big problems dealing with superspeed in his stories and therefore toned Quicksilver down. A similar speed was said in the old Handbooks (though Gruenwald usually tended to understate the powers of characters.. which makes the above speed of Northstar and Aurora as near-lighspeed so weird) Post upgrade, Pietro should be able to at least breach the sound barrier.

Now as to who is faster; it's not that simple a question. In a straight line, Northstar would leave Quicksilver in the dust, but Quicksilver can think far faster, has better reaction time and can turn on a dime.

As for the other speedsters:
Super Sabre could move part of his bodies at the speed of sound and was said to run a mile in 4 seconds. Calculate speed from there.

Speed Demon/Whizzer II used to be able to run at 220 mph, which was faster than Quicksilver, but he lacked Pietro's endurance (Pietro was always moving at superspeed, Speed Demon only for short bursts). Current Speed Demon seems to be at higher levels as well (changing into costume and back to get to a fight while at the same time drinking at a bar with his teammates, without his teammates noticing)

Makkari used to be at several the times of sound, but he reached lightspeed in Quasar. (Big discussion on that one as well: the Runner and Buried Alien, the guys he beat in that race, usually are far past the speed of sound, being able to run between galaxies in hours.)

Crimson
03-05-2005, 05:13 AM
In 137 Jean Grey dies... now is that Jean Grey or is that the Phoenix form pretending to be her?

Cause didn't it turn out Jean was at the bottom of the lake all along?

The Fury
03-05-2005, 06:25 AM
In 137 Jean Grey dies... now is that Jean Grey or is that the Phoenix form pretending to be her?

Cause didn't it turn out Jean was at the bottom of the lake all along?
I think it is commonly taken that Jean sustained great injuries and was left recovering when the X-men came back to Earth and crashed in NY habour, the Phoenix Took over and created a new body/form with all the memories of Jean etc. I think it is also commonly taken that it was the Phoenix that died on the moon in #137. And Jean recovers from her injuries in the Fantasic Four issue she is revived in.

Hope that helps.

PhoenixBoyX
03-07-2005, 01:45 PM
Hey everyone. I have a question:
When did Cable first show his psionic abilities? Did he have them when he first appeared? (I was pretty sure not). And if anyone can not hate me, could someone give me a run down of his powers, like how they've changed and got weaker or stronger etc? Thanks!
-Nick

DDM
03-07-2005, 01:55 PM
Hey everyone. I have a question:
When did Cable first show his psionic abilities? Did he have them when he first appeared? (I was pretty sure not). And if anyone can not hate me, could someone give me a run down of his powers, like how they've changed and got weaker or stronger etc? Thanks!
-Nick

Cable's psionic powers were intergrated into the mainstream Marvel Universe after The Adventures of Cyclops & Phoenix #1-4. When Cable was first introduced in The New Mutants #87, he seemingly possessed no mutant powers.

DDM
03-07-2005, 01:57 PM
Hey everyone. I have a question:
When did Cable first show his psionic abilities? Did he have them when he first appeared? (I was pretty sure not). And if anyone can not hate me, could someone give me a run down of his powers, like how they've changed and got weaker or stronger etc? Thanks!
-Nick

Cable's psionic powers were intergrated into the mainstream Marvel Universe after The Adventures of Cyclops & Phoenix #1-4. When Cable was first introduced in The New Mutants #87, he seemingly possessed no mutant powers.

Cable possesses extremely powerful telepathic & telekinetic powers, but his telekinetic powers were hampered by keeping the techno-organic virus in check within his body; therefore, he could not use his telekinesis to a great degree. Just like Rachel Summers (Phoenix II), his "sister," Cable has the potential to tap into the Phoenix Force.

Cable is more reliant on his parliamentry military training & his various weapons from the future.

fishtaco
03-07-2005, 07:24 PM
you just gave me an idea. That would be so cool if Cable became a host for the Phoenix. wow.

Beast
03-07-2005, 07:47 PM
you just gave me an idea. That would be so cool if Cable became a host for the Phoenix. wow.
La-La-La, I can't hear you. :)

KHNH
03-07-2005, 07:59 PM
La-La-La, I can't hear you. :)

I agree. Never found him interesting in the slightest. Let's not make him more visible, ok? ;)

Dizzy D
03-08-2005, 01:51 AM
Hey everyone. I have a question:
When did Cable first show his psionic abilities? Did he have them when he first appeared? (I was pretty sure not). And if anyone can not hate me, could someone give me a run down of his powers, like how they've changed and got weaker or stronger etc? Thanks!
-Nick

He first showed his telekinesis in X-force #1, but it was still very weak at the time; he was floating tools around the workshop with it.

His telepathy was first used in the New Warriors/X-force crossover "Child's Play". That would be X-force #33 unless I'm mistaken.

His powers became stronger over time due to practice (he became to rely on them more and some other factors). In his own series, his powers slowly increased: he was capable of levitating himself. By the time of the Phalanx-crossover/Adventures of Cyclops of Phoenix (in publishing time), Cable was still a weak telepath/telekinetic, but his powers had some use.

His powers were vastly decreased after the Psi-War, but thanks to the Psimitar, a futuristic weapon that looked like a spear he could still access them, even at levels he couldn't before. (Cable #57-58)

His major boost in power came after the Legacy Virus was cured; the cure affected the techno-organic virus that limited Cable's powers and in Cable #100, Cable was able to use his telepathy and telekinesis on himself to remove the techno-organic virus.

jeangreydp
03-09-2005, 02:22 AM
Does anybody know which issue has Onslaught showing jean that Xavier has had the hots for her forever?

Thanks in advance!

Brian Cronin
03-09-2005, 03:06 AM
X-Men #53.

-Brian

jeangreydp
03-09-2005, 09:49 AM
Thank you kindly! :D

I need to get that issue.

The Fury
03-10-2005, 04:07 AM
You know what annoys me, the random needless death of characters.


On that note: Is Radius actually confirmed dead?

Reasons, he was put underground by Avalanche. Avalanche did the same thing for Havok and Xorn and niether of them have a personal force field to protect them.

Also: Does Unus know his son is 'dead'?

fishtaco
03-10-2005, 06:33 AM
Who is that guy in the AOA poster who is standing next to Silver Samurai? He has red glasses and brown hair. Thats not Cyke, is it?

Crimson
03-10-2005, 06:34 AM
Who is that guy in the AOA poster who is standing next to Silver Samurai? He has red glasses and brown hair. Thats not Cyke, is it?

Have you got a picture of the poster? I think I know who you're talking about but I haven't seen it for a weeks... so I'd prefer to see it again incase I'm thinking of the wrong person

fishtaco
03-10-2005, 06:40 AM
just tell me anyway. I would be able to confirm it.

Crimson
03-10-2005, 07:17 AM
just tell me anyway. I would be able to confirm it.

Is he holding a stick thats hard to see? I think its Gambit if its the guy I'm thinking of.

bagheera
03-10-2005, 09:47 PM
It's either AoA Cyclops or Gambit.

http://ultimatecomics.free.fr/xmen/images/aoa/AoA_Gambit_01.jpg

Mia
03-10-2005, 11:52 PM
Can someone tell me how long or how many issues Scott waited from the death of his wife until he jumped into bed with Emma? I'm really curious. Thanks.

mattbib
03-10-2005, 11:55 PM
Well, we never saw him jump into bed with Emma.

Xorneto killed Jean in X-Men #150. Scott kisses Emma over Jean's grave at the end of X-Men #154.

Mia
03-11-2005, 12:08 AM
Well, we never saw him jump into bed with Emma.

Xorneto killed Jean in X-Men #150. Scott kisses Emma over Jean's grave at the end of X-Men #154.


Close enough. Now I remember why I can't stand the character. What a heel! Jean was too good for him. Pig!

Ryan K
03-11-2005, 12:12 AM
Close enough. Now I remember why I can't stand the character. What a heel! Jean was too good for him. Pig!

It's not as bad as it sounds. Jean did give him her permission.

Oh forget it. I really can't describe the events well enough for it to make much sense. Someone else will.

mattbib
03-11-2005, 12:12 AM
But...Jean's the one who practically MADE Scott kiss Emma over her own grave!

Dark Soul # 7
03-11-2005, 01:00 AM
What is the status of Rogue, the Hellfire Club and Cannonball?

Tenebrae
03-11-2005, 01:12 AM
What is the status of Rogue, the Hellfire Club and Cannonball?

Cannonball was a member of Storm's team of X-Men in Uncanny for one storyline recently, then was pulled away to star in the X-Force mini. That's just finished and whether or not he's returning to the X-Men, I'm not sure. (Others will be able to tell you more).

Rogue is currently sporting just her natural power of absorbing the memories and powers of others, though rumours are that she's about to regain the Ms. Marvel powers. She's a member of Havok's team of X-Men in adjectiveless. She also has her own solo series and is currently on an adventure with Sunfire. I'm not sure how she lost the Ms. Marvel powers. (Others will be able to tell you more).

The Hellfire Club recently featured in a storyline in Uncanny. Sunspot is now the Lord Imperial, and Sage has left the X-Men to become his advisor. I think Courtney Ross is now the White Queen, and am fairly sure Sebastian Shaw has been removed from his position, but I haven't gotten around to reading the story yet so I'm not exactly sure. (Others will be able to tell you more).

The general theme of this is that others will be able to tell you more, but at least its a start! :D

Mia
03-11-2005, 01:26 AM
But...Jean's the one who practically MADE Scott kiss Emma over her own grave!


Okay I'm confused. Looks like I'll have to buy the trade.....

Thanks for the responses though.

Dark Soul # 7
03-11-2005, 02:11 AM
Cannonball was a member of Storm's team of X-Men in Uncanny for one storyline recently, then was pulled away to star in the X-Force mini. That's just finished and whether or not he's returning to the X-Men, I'm not sure. (Others will be able to tell you more).

Rogue is currently sporting just her natural power of absorbing the memories and powers of others, though rumours are that she's about to regain the Ms. Marvel powers. She's a member of Havok's team of X-Men in adjectiveless. She also has her own solo series and is currently on an adventure with Sunfire. I'm not sure how she lost the Ms. Marvel powers. (Others will be able to tell you more).

The Hellfire Club recently featured in a storyline in Uncanny. Sunspot is now the Lord Imperial, and Sage has left the X-Men to become his advisor. I think Courtney Ross is now the White Queen, and am fairly sure Sebastian Shaw has been removed from his position, but I haven't gotten around to reading the story yet so I'm not exactly sure. (Others will be able to tell you more).

The general theme of this is that others will be able to tell you more, but at least its a start! :D
Thanks, haven´t been following any of the X-books for the last two years or so. A start is just fine. ;)

fishtaco
03-11-2005, 06:43 AM
Okay I'm confused. Looks like I'll have to buy the trade.....<