"Post your various questions about the X-men here" thread

[jeangreydp]

Yeah. He rubbed it in with Wolverine once, too, when Logan was being a little too condescending with him. *wink* One of the few good things about that MCP story.

Where in Classic Xmen did Jean and Logan kiss? I can't remember that for some reason!

Also, I can't think of the instance you mentioned above. When was this and what did he say?

[DDM]

Where in Classic Xmen did Jean and Logan kiss? I can't remember that for some reason!

Also, I can't think of the instance you mentioned above. When was this and what did he say?

I believe it was Classic X-Men #27 by Ann Nocenti & John Bolton.

[The Fury]

Another Question (yeah I know I ask alot).

Was there ever a moment when Sunfire confronted anyone about the death of his sister?

[mattbib]

Was there ever a moment when Sunfire confronted anyone about the death of his sister?
No, but he was working with the Mumbai branch of the X-Corporation, probably because he felt bad that she died because she got involved with them.

[DDM]

Another Question (yeah I know I ask alot).

Was there ever a moment when Sunfire confronted anyone about the death of his sister?

Sunpyre was an editorial mistake. Sunfire's mother died when he was born & he was raised by his uncle.

[mattbib]

Sunfire's mother died when he was born & he was raised by his uncle.Therefore it's presumed that Sunpyre is Sunfire's half-sister.

[meethraa]

I have one.

When Jean became the Dark Phoenix, did she consume a planet or a whole galaxy? Or, more specifically, is that really accounted for or could she have destroyed many alien civilizations we don't know about?

Thanks.

[DDM]

I have one.

When Jean became the Dark Phoenix, did she consume a planet or a whole galaxy? Or, more specifically, is that really accounted for or could she have destroyed many alien civilizations we don't know about?

Thanks.

When Dark Phoenix consumed the D'Bari star system, she wiped out the entire galaxy. Only one of the planets was inhabited with sentient life.

[DDM]

Therefore it's presumed that Sunpyre is Sunfire's half-sister.

Sunpyre was introduced as Sunfire's sister--not his half-sister.

[geewaiho]

i havent read comics since that crappy onslaught saga came and went and i just found out jean grey died(isnt this like her secound time??),
i cant believe jean greay died, how did she go?????????, and to my dismay i find out my fave telepath psylockes dead too, And now rachel summers back man so much tofind out and get into, By the way does she still have the phenoix force within her??????, or did jean have that before she croaked it?????

[Grendel0606]

i havent read comics since that crappy onslaught saga came and went and i just found out jean grey died(isnt this like her secound time??),
i cant believe jean greay died, how did she go?????????, and to my dismay i find out my fave telepath psylockes dead too, And now rachel summers back man so much tofind out and get into, By the way does she still have the phenoix force within her??????, or did jean have that before she croaked it?????
1. Jean was killed by a fake Magneto who used his powers to give her a "planet sized stroke [see (New9 X-Men #150]
2. Betsy was killed by a villain named Vargas in X-treme #X-Men 2-3. However rumor has it that Claremont willresurrect her soon.
3.Jean was very much one with the phoenix force when she died Rachel officially doesn't have the Phoenix force. However, whenever she uses her power a tiny Phoenix symbol appears over her eyes. there are also other hints that she isn't 100 % phoenixless.
If you want to know more, head over to www.uncannyxmen.net and read the current title information and the issue summaries.

[Grendel0606]

Sunpyre was introduced as Sunfire's sister--not his half-sister.

Sunfire's mother died in childbirth. Sunpyre is younger than he is. Therefore either she is his halfsister or Mrs Yoshida was a very fertile corpse.

[Grendel0606]

When Dark Phoenix consumed the D'Bari star system, she wiped out the entire galaxy. Only one of the planets was inhabited with sentient life.
Haven't got the issue in front of me, but I think you mean that she destroyed an entire SOLAR SYSTEM (kind of a logical conclusion as she destroyed a sun), not a galaxy. She'd have to destry a few more stars to accomplish that...

[The Lucky One]

I don't know if the Siege ever appeared in a Marvel comic. It's based on an artifact out of Arthurian legend. The Siege Perilous was a chair at the Round Table that only the "chosen One" could sit at. if anyone else sat in the Siege they were found wanting and died. Sir Galahad was the only knight destined to sit in the seat. He took the seat after finishing his quest for the Holy Grail.

Just a minor (off-topic) correction- in most legends, Galahad (son of Lancelot and Elaine) took the Siege Perilous before questing for the Holy Grail; after he achieved the Grail, he saw the face of Christ and -- IIRC -- died of religious ecstasy. Either way, I don't think he ever returned to Camelot.

Sorry, Arthurian lore was one of my major focuses in college.
;)

(And jeangrey, I don't remember what Wolverine said to Mimic, but something that Cal found condescending, I guess, to which Cal reminded Logan that he was leading the X-Men before anyone had ever heard of Wolverine. Kind of a funny line.)

-D

[jcadden76]

Just a minor (off-topic) correction- in most legends, Galahad (son of Lancelot and Elaine) took the Siege Perilous before questing for the Holy Grail; after he achieved the Grail, he saw the face of Christ and -- IIRC -- died of religious ecstasy. Either way, I don't think he ever returned to Camelot.

Sorry, Arthurian lore was one of my major focuses in college.
;)

(And jeangrey, I don't remember what Wolverine said to Mimic, but something that Cal found condescending, I guess, to which Cal reminded Logan that he was leading the X-Men before anyone had ever heard of Wolverine. Kind of a funny line.)

-D

Nice summary.

[atoningunifex]

Sorry, Arthurian lore was one of my major focuses in college.
;)


No worries. I think I did pretty well for working off memory of something I vaguely researched back when the Siege was introduced in the X-Men. :)

[mattbib]

Sunpyre was introduced as Sunfire's sister--not his half-sister.
Many half-siblings, myself included, don't make a distinction.

[Tommy]

Haven't got the issue in front of me, but I think you mean that she destroyed an entire SOLAR SYSTEM (kind of a logical conclusion as she destroyed a sun), not a galaxy. She'd have to destry a few more stars to accomplish that...

Yes it was just the Solar System. Not the whole galaxy.

[meethraa]

When Dark Phoenix consumed the D'Bari star system, she wiped out the entire galaxy. Only one of the planets was inhabited with sentient life.
Okay, that's what I thought. Thanks.
Just one more thing, if anyone knows. How well were that one planet's inhabitants developed? Do we know anything about them and their technology? I've tried to look it up online with no success so far.

[Tommy]

Okay, that's what I thought. Thanks.
Just one more thing, if anyone knows. How well were that one planet's inhabitants developed? Do we know anything about them and their technology? I've tried to look it up online with no success so far.

They seemed to be around human level of technology. However a latter issue had a member of the D'Bari in it and he had a massively powerful suit of armor.

[meethraa]

They seemed to be around human level of technology. However a latter issue had a member of the D'Bari in it and he had a massively powerful suit of armor.
That's vague enough for me. I was just wondering if it had been thoroughly explored, but if that's not the case then I'm happy.
Thanks.

[Tommy]

That's vague enough for me. I was just wondering if it had been thoroughly explored, but if that's not the case then I'm happy.
Thanks.

The only issue to go into it in detail was Uncanny #387.

http://www.uncannyxmen.net/db/issues/showquestion.asp?fldAuto=1505

[atoningunifex]

Haven't got the issue in front of me, but I think you mean that she destroyed an entire SOLAR SYSTEM (kind of a logical conclusion as she destroyed a sun), not a galaxy. She'd have to destry a few more stars to accomplish that...

My fading memory (backed up from summaries by uncannyxmen.net- since I can't find my Dark Phoenix tpb) recalls that D'bari was a part of the Shi'ar Empire- which is how Lilandra got involved in the subsequent trial of Phoenix.

So, yeah, I'm with Grendel. She destroyed a star system, not a galaxy.

[DDM]

Many half-siblings, myself included, don't make a distinction.

Well, that's sweet. But until it's explicitly stated, Sunpyre remains Sunfire's biological sister--not half sister. As usual, Marvel editors have no idea what they're doing.

[DDM]

Okay, that's what I thought. Thanks.
Just one more thing, if anyone knows. How well were that one planet's inhabitants developed? Do we know anything about them and their technology? I've tried to look it up online with no success so far.

The D'Bari briefly appeared in an early issue of the Avengers; they were a peaceful alien species who were absorbed into the Shi'ar empire at some point.

[mattbib]

Well, that's sweet. But until it's explicitly stated, Sunpyre remains Sunfire's biological sister--not half sister.A half-sister IS a biological sister.

[terminallunch]

Marvel's site says Astonishing 7 & 8 are shipping next week. It calls #7 "Gifted" part one, and #8 "Gifted" part three. What gives?

[Beast]

Marvel's site says Astonishing 7 & 8 are shipping next week. It calls #7 "Gifted" part one, and #8 "Gifted" part three. What gives?
Marvel's site is often incorrect in it's shipment dates. Astonishing's entire run has been pushed back a month now. There was a post about it not too long ago. :)

[Ryan K]

Never ever ever ever ever ever ever ever trust Marvel's website for shipping information.

This is the only site you should ever use for shipping information . . .

http://www.diamondcomics.com/shipping.asp

:)

[terminallunch]

Thanks very much!

[DDM]

A half-sister IS a biological sister.

But it was never stated Sunpyre is the half-sister of Sunfire; she was introduced as his sister.

[mattbib]

But it was never stated Sunpyre is the half-sister of Sunfire; she was introduced as his sister.
So what? That doesn't mean she's not his half-sister. Some assumptions are safe to be made.

[Grendel0606]

But it was never stated Sunpyre is the half-sister of Sunfire; she was introduced as his sister.
She made the introduction to Jean herself, Why should she - especially considering she was depicted as rather arrogant - explain her entire family situation to a stranger. All Jean needed to know is that she was related to Shiro. She didn't need tpo know the EXACT circumstances

[Jack Flash]

i agree with Bib, half siblings are siblings and the distinction isn't always made. especially upon first introductions. it's safe to assume that she is(was) his half sister.

[DDM]

She made the introduction to Jean herself, Why should she - especially considering she was depicted as rather arrogant - explain her entire family situation to a stranger. All Jean needed to know is that she was related to Shiro. She didn't need tpo know the EXACT circumstances

Introduction for the reader. Assuming anything is bad for comics. Editorial made another contradiction, a mistake. If she says she is Sunfire's sister, it must be taken literally.

[mattbib]

If she says she is Sunfire's sister, it must be taken literally.No it mustn't. Editorial mistake or not, there's been no contradiction made. That'd only happen if it's been said they have the same mother. And that hasn't been said. Half-siblings ARE siblings. No distinction needs to be made.

[Faust451]

Does anyone know when the Marvel Handbook for the X-Men is supposed to be released?

[The Lucky One]

A couple of months ago?

-D

[Faust451]

Aww Crap!!! Really?

Damn, now there's another backissue I gotta get.

Thanks.

[Jack Flash]

When did Scrambler die?

[The Lucky One]

The Marauder? I don't think he died during the Mutant Massacre (he and Rogue just KO'd each other), but most of the Marauders died during Inferno, on and off panel, at the hands of the demon-influenced X-Men. But because Sinister has cloned all of the Marauders, he's probably still running around anyway.

-D

[jcadden76]

Yeah but have we seen him since then? I can't think that I have.

[Dizzy D]

He was with the Marauders sent after Threnody.
I'm not sure if he was with the Marauders when they attacked Cable disguised as the Harbingers of Apocalypse or whatever their name was. (That was around The Twelve storyline with Casey and Ladronn on Cable)

[justcrash]

When did Piotor return and how? :confused:

[mattbib]

When did Piotor return and how? :confused:In the first arc of Astonishing X-Men. He was never dead. You can read summaries at www.uncannyxmen.net (http://www.uncannyxmen.net)

[justcrash]

In the first arc of Astonishing X-Men. He was never dead. You can read summaries at www.uncannyxmen.net (http://www.uncannyxmen.net)


He was never.. whats its.. whos its...?!?! :eek: *places ice pack on head* Never mind... :(

[Crimson]

In the first arc of Astonishing X-Men. He was never dead. You can read summaries at www.uncannyxmen.net (http://www.uncannyxmen.net)

Yes he was dead but Ord brought him back to life

[justcrash]

Yes he was dead but Ord brought him back to life


Of course. Ord. Why didn't I think of that?



:confused:

[LoneWolf21]

Here's one to wrap your noodle around: Back in the X-Men/Alpha Flight special, Madelyne Pryor was given healing powers and became Anodyne after (iirc) drinking from an Asgardian-type fountain. Now, it is also revealed that the fountain doesn't work on mutants, but we later find out that Madelyne is a clone of Jean Grey and therefore a mutant.

So how did the fountain work on her?

[mattbib]

Hmmm...good one. Maybe Loki lied? Also, Maddie's "mutation" hadn't yet manifested. So maybe that.

[Tommy]

Why does Scott Summers attract more women than anyone else in the X-men? (allong with a good portion of them combined)

[Dizzy D]

Why does Scott Summers attract more women than anyone else in the X-men? (allong with a good portion of them combined)

He's a tripod.

[Tommy]

He's a tripod.

That would explain it. How many, and who has he gotten with?

[nubly]

who assassinated graydon creed and what issue was it revealed?

[Tommy]

who assassinated graydon creed and what issue was it revealed?

Mystique did it. It was reviled to be her in a miniseries...

[Catalyst]

Valerie Cooper's ex-husband (Ed Atkinson the polygraph expert); was he always Mr.Sinister?

[Dizzy D]

Mystique did it. It was reviled to be her in a miniseries...

Yes, in X-men Forever.. #2 or 3 I believe.

Catalyst: unclear, he later comes back, but he doesn't seem to be Sinister in those appearances (is shot and wounded trying to defend X-factor) Of course Sinister could just be playing with her, but all things seem to point that Sinister only impersonated Edmund on that one occasion.

[Catalyst]

Yes, in X-men Forever.. #2 or 3 I believe.

Catalyst: unclear, he later comes back, but he doesn't seem to be Sinister in those appearances (is shot and wounded trying to defend X-factor) Of course Sinister could just be playing with her, but all things seem to point that Sinister only impersonated Edmund on that one occasion.


thanks. i read the latter appearance and it confused the heck out of me. when first introduced, Sinister was very cavalier about using the Edmund Atkinson role. it just struck me as odd that he'd walking around Washington disguised as an existing person; especially one who had a relationship w/ Cooper. what if Val had mentioned the prior meeting to the real Edmund? and, if you think about it, Val contacted him to come give Madrox the lie detector test. so that means that Edmund was Sinister, when she got the number. that definately could have happened after the marriage ended but, still, why would Sinister use an existing person instead of just infiltrate the government some other way (he was already an associate of Senator Steven Shaffran)? most other times, he's just made up an identity (Nathan Milbury and that new doctor in the Weapon X book). maybe i'm just thinking about this too much?

[Faust451]

When and in what book did Freedom Force's last mission take place?

[Catalyst]

When and in what book did Freedom Force's last mission take place?


XFactor @nnual 6
http://www.milehighcomics.com/cgi-bin/backissue.cgi?action=fullsize&issue=97458228206%206

it took place in the Middle East. did you want actual spoilers?

[Catalyst]

in Generation X #19 we 'meet' Emma Frost's chauffeurs. both good-sized adult males. one is pink and the other is green. i was was wondering... does anyone know if they were supposed to be Artie and Leech; maybe using their holographic projectors? i watched the letters pages to see if the in-joke was revealed. no luck. just seems strange that both characters would be part of the book and Frost would have 2 employees who happened to be pink and green.

http://image.milehighcomics.com/istore/images/fullsize/34928052456.19.GIF

[Morrolan]

I was out of the "X-Men World" for a couple of years so i have a question that may see alittle easy. Here it is:

In X-Men 157 , they have a scene where a bunch of X-Men who were complaining about their team assignments. I would like to know the following about this scene:

1. Who is the girl in the back with the Red Jacket and the Blond hair? She is saying: Scott! Scott, Listen--
2. Who is the gothic chick all the way to right? She is saying: Why am i even here?
3. Who is the girl in front of the gothic chick? I thought she was Kitty, but now i dont know. She is saying: Wait I thought you didn't need me anymore?
4. Who is the guy all the way to the left? You can only see his face and he is saying: I really think i would be much happier--

Thank you for the help

[Beast]

I was out of the "X-Men World" for a couple of years so i have a question that may see alittle easy. Here it is:

In X-Men 157 , they have a scene where a bunch of X-Men who were complaining about their team assignments. I would like to know the following about this scene:

1. Who is the girl in the back with the Red Jacket and the Blond hair? She is saying: Scott! Scott, Listen--
2. Who is the gothic chick all the way to right? She is saying: Why am i even here?
3. Who is the girl in front of the gothic chick? I thought she was Kitty, but now i dont know. She is saying: Wait I thought you didn't need me anymore?
4. Who is the guy all the way to the left? You can only see his face and he is saying: I really think i would be much happier--

Thank you for the help
1. Paige Guthrie - Codename: Husk
2. Tessa - Codename: Sage
3. Kitty Pryde - Codename: Shadowcat
4. Sam Guthrie - Codename: Cannonball (I think)

[Morrolan]

ah i see. Sam needs a tan o_O.

Well I cant seem to find much on this Sage character. . . Cany anyone give me any info?

[Anon_me]

She used to be call Tessa and was Sebastian Shaw's right hand. Then it was revealed that she was actually an undercover agent placed by Xavier to infilitrate the Hellfire Club.

[Morrolan]

I see. Could some one give me the info on her powers? She seems interesting. Is she a popular chacter?

[Beast]

I see. Could some one give me the info on her powers? She seems interesting. Is she a popular chacter?
This should help answer your questions. :)

http://www.uncannyxmen.net/db/spotlight/showquestion.asp?faq=10&fldAuto=101

[Faust451]

XFactor @nnual 6
http://www.milehighcomics.com/cgi-bin/backissue.cgi?action=fullsize&issue=97458228206%206

it took place in the Middle East. did you want actual spoilers?


Nope.

Thanks a bunch for the help, now I gotta add something else to my list. Oh geez, I can hear my wallet getting thinner.

[Morrolan]

thx man. she seems pretty cool.

[The Lucky One]

That would explain it. How many, and who has he gotten with?

Jean Grey, of course. Madelyne Pryor. Psylocke flirted with him. Emma Frost. Colleen Wing, when Jean was thought dead, and Lee Forrester (later to become Magneto's love interest, and even almost Cable's), also when Jean was thought dead. As far as who he's "gotten with," at least three, maybe five. At least six were interested.

-D

[Faust451]

Was Magneto #0 any good? I found it for only a dollar so I might pick it up. It came out in 93.

The same goes to Dark Seduction. Is it worth it?

:confused:

[Sabre]

XFactor @nnual 6
http://www.milehighcomics.com/cgi-bin/backissue.cgi?action=fullsize&issue=97458228206%206

it took place in the Middle East. did you want actual spoilers?

Not just that issue. It's a three-part story, in New Mutants annual #7, Uncanny X-Men annual #15, and X-Factor annual #6.

[Vector]

Was Magneto #0 any good? I found it for only a dollar so I might pick it up. It came out in 93.



Pick up Magneto 0. It reprints stories from Classic X-Men that go into Magneto's past.

[Jack Flash]

Does anybody know where Mikhail Rasputin went? The last I saw of him he was one of the Twelve. and then he just disapeared. He was fighting on the side of the angels then. shouldn't someone have called him up to tell him that his little brother is back???

[mattbib]

Does anybody know where Mikhail Rasputin went? The last I saw of him he was one of the Twelve. and then he just disapeared. He was fighting on the side of the angels then. shouldn't someone have called him up to tell him that his little brother is back???
Well, as you said he disappeared. Nobody knows where he is or even if he's stil alive.

[Dizzy D]

Well, as you said he disappeared. Nobody knows where he is or even if he's stil alive.

Well, he took Deathbird, Caliban and Ahab with him, didn't he? And Deathbird has shown up since then. (And I think Caliban has to)

And as for as Mikhail knows Piotr was never dead (depending on where he is and how much communications he has there)

[TCJohnson]

I haven't been following X-men for a few months. Is Juggernaught still part of the team or did he go bad?

[DDM]

Juggs got sucked into Xorn's black hole head in the final issue with Nocturne, X-Men #164.

[mushroom2703]

Yup. I didn't pick up part 3 or 4 of the last Austen arc due to money issues ( thank god i'm back on track for milligan), but it basically seems he played bad guy to get into the brotherhood, but really it was a plan all along, and really he was jsut a spy. Then the brother hood, along with him and nocturne were dragged into a blackhole. Nice idea though : now that they've escaped the grasp of Austen by jumping into Xorn's head, i wouldn't mind seeing a title with these characters as a team where ever they end up. A brotherhood book by Tieri would be fun.

[TCJohnson]

Oh.


I see.


: bangs head on desk L

[Crimson]

Yup. I didn't pick up part 3 or 4 of the last Austen arc due to money issues ( thank god i'm back on track for milligan), but it basically seems he played bad guy to get into the brotherhood, but really it was a plan all along, and really he was jsut a spy. Then the brother hood, along with him and nocturne were dragged into a blackhole. Nice idea though : now that they've escaped the grasp of Austen by jumping into Xorn's head, i wouldn't mind seeing a title with these characters as a team where ever they end up. A brotherhood book by Tieri would be fun.

Marvel wanted to kill them off... Austen didn't want to so he did it in a way they could easily be brought back. We've really got to thank Austen on this one

[Beast]

Marvel wanted to kill them off... Austen didn't want to so he did it in a way they could easily be brought back. We've really got to thank Austen on this one
Actually according to what has leaked out, Marvel wanted Juggy reverted to a villian again. Austen supposedly negotiated the black hole dealie, so he wouldn't have to be the one to make ole Juggles all evil again. So we actually do have to thank Austen for this one, no matter how painful doing so is. :)

[eric]

What are the extent of her powers. What types of stuff has she morphed to in the past (throughout all her appearances), and what other potential forms can she possibly take.

[riotgear]

In her first appearance, she morphed into a small bird, probably a robin. After that, she was only able to change her skin into different elements and such. She has turned into hard rubber, iron, wood, even diamond and adamantium, if I recall correctly.

[fishtaco]

what was the role of tildie soames in Gifted? Why was she so important that Ord had to take her with him when he was fleeing?

[Karl J. Barnes]

what was the role of tildie soames in Gifted? Why was she so important that Ord had to take her with him when he was fleeing?

She had the ability to make nightmares come true,right? Maybe, Ord was thinking of using her as a weapon against the mutant that tries to destroy Breakworld?

[fishtaco]

I guess that works. But why was Dr. Rao so interested in her?

[Karl J. Barnes]

I guess that works. But why was Dr. Rao so interested in her?

As a guiena pig in her experiments for the Cure for Mutants, plus I thought that Dr. Rao had some compassion for the girl troubled by her powers.

[Nocturne]

What are the extent of her powers. What types of stuff has she morphed to in the past (throughout all her appearances), and what other potential forms can she possibly take.
there's a site that i found that should help you
http://husk.cacophany.com/profile.html

[roguestorm]

husks powers have been retconed numerous times, each time it's downgraded.apparently now whatever form she changes into she cannot gain or lose any mass. the transformation is now only skin deep despite the fact that husk has been shown to transform into glass where she was completely see through and no visible organs were shown.

[Doom Hammer]

I dont wanna sound like an ass, but theres an "Ask a Random Question About the X-Men" type thread, and a similar question was used as the first entry. You can use that thread to ask questions like these, and even find the answer to this specific question there.

http://forums.comicbookresources.com/showthread.php?t=8457

[Psyche]

Any news on Banshee since issue #406? I mean, with Black Tom running rampant, he or Siryn needs to do something about their cuz.

[mattbib]

Any news on Banshee since issue #406? I mean, with Black Tom running rampant, he or Siryn needs to do something about their cuz.
Nope, no news. Presumably he's still recovering in Ireland. Siryn on the otherhand was seen working with X-Corp. in Paris during Morrison's run.

[prigger]

I started reading x-men about two years ago after taking along hiatus since the Jim Lee years... and i have one question... where the heck is apocalypse i read ucanny and reg. x-men and he has'nt been mentioned at all. Was he killed?

[mattbib]

Yes, Apocolypse is supposedly "dead" after the "Twelve" and the "Search for Cyclops" storylines.

[Archer]

I recently read the run of New Mutants where Magneto's in charge - and what happened to Lee Forrester? The last mention I can find is in NM #35 when she sends him a letter that says something like she'll be gone for two months.

[Sharcque]

heavy costs, leavies and taxes are assigned to the school of that size (students), even if private.
Yeah --- but the Prof could just make people think he paid them, couldn't he? :D

[Brian Cronin]

I dont wanna sound like an ass, but theres an "Ask a Random Question About the X-Men" type thread, and a similar question was used as the first entry. You can use that thread to ask questions like these, and even find the answer to this specific question there.

http://forums.comicbookresources.com/showthread.php?t=8457

Yeah, that WAS kinda funny. :)

-Brian

[fishtaco]

yeah. whatever happened to Lee Forrester?

[Grendel0606]

She shared an adventure with Cable and later appeared in Claremont's rip-off of a Perfect Storm in one of the Revolution Uncanny issues. BAsically she is still working on her trawler, nothing new.

[Archer]

She shared an adventure with Cable and later appeared in Claremont's rip-off of a Perfect Storm in one of the Revolution Uncanny issues. BAsically she is still working on her trawler, nothing new.

So was her whole thing with Magneto just left dangling?

[Faust451]

Whatever happened to Bastion after Astonishing Xmen?

[Faust451]

Whatever happened to Dr. Lang and Hodge after the first Phalanx story?

[The Lucky One]

Whatever happened to Bastion after Astonishing Xmen?

He last appeared in the Warlock ongoing (9 issues worth). The main bad guy, Mainspring, wanted use of Nimrod. So he captured Bastion and deleted two of his three personalities (Bastion and Master Mold), leaving just Nimrod, who he reprogrammed as Template. Warlock defeated him, but I can't remember what happened to him in the end... probably presumed destroyed.

-D

[DDM]

Whatever happened to Dr. Lang and Hodge after the first Phalanx story?

Actually, Steven Lang's history goes deeper than what you said. He physically died in Uncanny X-Men #100; however, before he died, he programmed a computer to absorb his brainwave patterns in a Master Mold Sentinel in Incredible Hulk Annual #7 by Roger Stern & John Byrne. A few months later, the Master Mold Sentinel--with Lang's brainwave patters & persona--resurfaced in New Mexico. Lang, as the Master Mold II, attacked Angel, Iceman, & the Hulk (thinking he was mutant). The Master Mold II took Angel, Iceman, & the Hulk back to the abadoned SHIELD satellite when he previously had captured & was defeated by the X-Men. However, the Hulk, angry, easily defeated the Master Mold. Angel & Iceman helped the Hulk defeat the sentient Sentinel. The Master Mold II was seemingly destroyed as his body fell to Earth. Yet, years later, the same Master Mold II rebuilt himself from scratch in X-Factor #13-14 in Alaska; ironically, Scott Summers was back in Alaska to find his wife, Madelyne Pryor. The Master Mold determines that all humanity possesses the x-gene; therefore, all humans had to die--not just mutants. The Master Mold II also sought out the power "Twelve" that was first mentioned in this book. The Master Mold II was defeated by Cyclops. Months later he would rebuild himself again when the Master Mold had taken over Nimrod in Uncanny X-Men #246-247. But the X-Men defeated the Master Mold II/Nimrod amalgam with the unexpected help of Nimrod. Dazzler opened the Siege Perilous to be pulled in as the Master Mold II/Nimrod amalgam destroyed itself since Nimrod had convinced the Master Mold that it had mutated. Rogue was pulled into the Siege Perilous to reappear in Uncanny X-Men #269.

The Phalanx must have absobed pieces of the Master Mold II mainframe to properly absorb Steven Lang's personality. It was never explicitely shown when the Phalanx had absorbed either Hodge or Lang.

[Faust451]

Actually, Steven Lang's history goes deeper than what you said. He physically died in Uncanny X-Men #100; however, before he died, he programmed a computer to absorb his brainwave patterns in a Master Mold Sentinel in Incredible Hulk Annual #7 by Roger Stern & John Byrne. A few months later, the Master Mold Sentinel--with Lang's brainwave patters & persona--resurfaced in New Mexico. Lang, as the Master Mold II, attacked Angel, Iceman, & the Hulk (thinking he was mutant). The Master Mold II took Angel, Iceman, & the Hulk back to the abadoned SHIELD satellite when he previously had captured & was defeated by the X-Men. However, the Hulk, angry, easily defeated the Master Mold. Angel & Iceman helped the Hulk defeat the sentient Sentinel. The Master Mold II was seemingly destroyed as his body fell to Earth. Yet, years later, the same Master Mold II rebuilt himself from scratch in X-Factor #13-14 in Alaska; ironically, Scott Summers was back in Alaska to find his wife, Madelyne Pryor. The Master Mold determines that all humanity possesses the x-gene; therefore, all humans had to die--not just mutants. The Master Mold II also sought out the power "Twelve" that was first mentioned in this book. The Master Mold II was defeated by Cyclops. Months later he would rebuild himself again when the Master Mold had taken over Nimrod in Uncanny X-Men #246-247. But the X-Men defeated the Master Mold II/Nimrod amalgam with the unexpected help of Nimrod. Dazzler opened the Siege Perilous to be pulled in as the Master Mold II/Nimrod amalgam destroyed itself since Nimrod had convinced the Master Mold that it had mutated. Rogue was pulled into the Siege Perilous to reappear in Uncanny X-Men #269.

The Phalanx must have absobed pieces of the Master Mold II mainframe to properly absorb Steven Lang's personality. It was never explicitely shown when the Phalanx had absorbed either Hodge or Lang.


Yeah, I know all that b/c I've already read all of those issues. But what I was asking is what happened at the end of the Phalanx Covenant? Where both Dr. Lang and Cameron destoryed or what?

[DDM]

Yeah, I know all that b/c I've already read all of those issues. But what I was asking is what happened at the end of the Phalanx Covenant? Where both Dr. Lang and Cameron destoryed or what?

It wasn't clear.

[Dizzy D]

Well, Jean said she could feel them dying one by one, so I guess both Lang and Hodge are gone (as for Hodge's deal with the devil that keeps him immortal: N'Astirth died a long time ago and when he became Phalanx he really wasn't Hodge anymore (deals with the devil always have those loopholes in them))

Won't stop any writer from bringing them back though.

[Faust451]

I'd actually like to see them both back. B/c there aren't enough 'lets wipe those muties out' kinda guys.

[ratzo]

He's not a X-Man but I'm fairly sure he's a mutant so I'll ask...

I was bored last week and flipped through the Identity Disc TPB and wanted to know why Deadpool's word balloons are in yellow.

[Corey Dreher]

I've been reading post about Banshee coming back and I was wondering where he is at? And whatever happened to Syrin

[mattbib]

Wow. I just answered this question yesterday. :)

Nope, no news. Presumably he's still recovering in Ireland. Siryn on the otherhand was seen working with X-Corp. in Paris during Morrison's run.

[Faust451]

It's his signature.

[The Lucky One]

He's not a X-Man but I'm fairly sure he's a mutant so I'll ask...

I was bored last week and flipped through the Identity Disc TPB and wanted to know why Deadpool's word balloons are in yellow.

He's not. ;) But all the same, I think it's a stylistic thing, to subtly remind readers that he is, in fact, insane. All of the rational characters have normal, white word balloons, and then "off the beaten path and into the lake" Wade comes along, and without even having to read what he's saying, you know he's different.

(Personally, I loved the part at the end of Agent X when he welcomed back his caption boxes. "Hey, do I still think in those little yellow boxes? Oh, I missed you, little boxes! What fun we shall have together!")

-D

[pennywisdom]

I have a new question (apologies if this has been asked already):

Is the character Bastion supposed to be based on any real-life political or historical figures?

[Faust451]

Nope he's an original.

[Faust451]

Who built those Sentinels back in the first few issues of Alpha Flight?

[Catalyst]

Nope he's an original.

what's weird is that Bastion was mentioned as being one of Apocalypse's Horsemen during the Age of Apocalypse. Abyss replaced him.

[Catalyst]

I have a new question (apologies if this has been asked already):

Is the character Bastion supposed to be based on any real-life political or historical figures?

he reminds me of Donald Rumsfeld, actually. but for a fictional political figure, he's alot like Stryker from the Xmen movie. :D

[Dizzy D]

what's weird is that Bastion was mentioned as being one of Apocalypse's Horsemen during the Age of Apocalypse. Abyss replaced him.

Could be a case of another character having the same name. For instance, there was a Wolverine in Age of Apocalypse who had no relation to Logan whatsoever.

[Catalyst]

He's not a X-Man but I'm fairly sure he's a mutant so I'll ask...

I was bored last week and flipped through the Identity Disc TPB and wanted to know why Deadpool's word balloons are in yellow.

actually, "Wade" was mislabeled as a mutant way back when on a trading card. they listed his power as super-agility. coincidentally, on that same card and the marvel sites, Deadpool is listed with considerably high intelligence. he's like a '4' or a '5.' i always thought that was weird. he seems like a complete moron some of the times. :)

[fishtaco]

Bastion??? whoa thats so weird.

I just picked up X-men annual 2000. Is Bastion dead now? Did Lady Deathstryke kill him?

[Catalyst]

Bastion??? whoa thats so weird.

I just picked up X-men annual 2000. Is Bastion dead now? Did Lady Deathstryke kill him?

the government still has his detached head, iirc. i'm not sure what they are doing with it though. and, apparently, Bastion's programming was re-written by a character in the Warlock (doug ramsey) series. i know nothing about Lady Deathstrike's involvement. sorry. :)

[Tony Peanuts]

The Phalanx must have absobed pieces of the Master Mold II mainframe to properly absorb Steven Lang's personality. It was never explicitely shown when the Phalanx had absorbed either Hodge or Lang.

It was never explicitly stated in the comics, but I was under the impression that the comatose guy glimpsed in Uncanny #291 (IIRC) was Steven Lang and that that was the first hint of the upcoming Phalanx storyline. He was just some un-named braindead figure whom we see being described as "humanity's last best hope" or some such, but he resembled the depiction of Lang seen later in the Phalanx issues and was never referred to in any other story. Presumably he was later used to create the Phalanx off-panel, and this was a similar foreshadowing to when, in a later issue, we see a short cutaway showing a man resembling Harvest getting onto a bus labelled "Phalanx".
I'm pretty sure though that this was explained in a later interview or letters page rather than in the comics themselves, so it could be interpretted any way you like really.

[Dizzy D]

It was never explicitly stated in the comics, but I was under the impression that the comatose guy glimpsed in Uncanny #291 (IIRC) was Steven Lang and that that was the first hint of the upcoming Phalanx storyline. He was just some un-named braindead figure whom we see being described as "humanity's last best hope" or some such, but he resembled the depiction of Lang seen later in the Phalanx issues and was never referred to in any other story. Presumably he was later used to create the Phalanx off-panel, and this was a similar foreshadowing to when, in a later issue, we see a short cutaway showing a man resembling Harvest getting onto a bus labelled "Phalanx".
I'm pretty sure though that this was explained in a later interview or letters page rather than in the comics themselves, so it could be interpretted any way you like really.

That was indeed Stephen Lang being removed from the facility (the reference to Phalanx, Stephen Lang refers to that moment etc.)

[Crimson]

What issue did the orignal X-Men get stuck on that island?

I ask this cause I'm looking at the masterworks and there seems to be a big jump from X-Men Vol. 4 and Uncanny X-Men Vol. 1

[fishtaco]

What issue did the orignal X-Men get stuck on that island?

I ask this cause I'm looking at the masterworks and there seems to be a big jump from X-Men Vol. 4 and Uncanny X-Men Vol. 1

do you mean Krakoa?

[DDM]

What issue did the orignal X-Men get stuck on that island?

I ask this cause I'm looking at the masterworks and there seems to be a big jump from X-Men Vol. 4 and Uncanny X-Men Vol. 1

The original X-Men series was cancelled with (Uncanny) X-Men #66; from (Uncanny) X-Men #67-93 are all reprints. When Marvel released the X-Men reprints, Hank McCoy graduated from Professor Xavier's School For Gift Youngsters & got a job with a subsitary of Roxxon Oil, Amazing Adventures #11-17 (This story introduced the fur Beast) which eventually lead to Hank McCoy joining the Avengers in Avengers #137 (provisonal basis), 151 (officially joins the team). The X-Men made guest appearances in other books such as Marvel Team-Up. Giant Size X-Men #1 opens with the original team--Havok, Lorna Dane, Marvel Girl, Angel, & Iceman--captured by Krakoa. Scott Summers tells the tale in backstory within Giant Size X-Men #1 which leads to Xavier forming the all new, all different new X-Men.

[Faust451]

Who built those Sentinels back in the first few issues of Alpha Flight?


Hey what about my question?

[Dizzy D]

Hey what about my question?

I guess nobody knows. Which volume of Alpha Flight are you talking about? The Byrne, Seagle or Lobdell one?

Haven't read the issues, but regarding the Sentinels:
For Byrne: that time-period, the Sentinels would probably be built either by one of the Trasks or Shaw Industries. Maybe some remnants from Stephen Lang's project.

Seagle: By then the US was producing its own Sentinels under project Wideawake. And the Trasks remained active Sentinels-builders.

Lobdell:Leftovers from Zero Tolerance or Cassandra Nova's army of Sentinels, maybe even those Russian-type Sentinels. And Wideawake still seems active.

[The Fury]

Right, I was wondering if anyone knows of all the confirmed dead from the Genoshan Genocide? Or if there are any at all confirmed deaths from the incident.

[Sheldon]

How long before the next mega huge crossover that will change everything?

[Beast]

How long before the next mega huge crossover that will change everything?
You mean after 'House of M'? :)

[Sheldon]

Do you think House of M is going to be Onslaught 05 or Inferno 05?

[Beast]

Do you think House of M is going to be Onslaught 05 or Inferno 05?
Not sure which way it's going to go. The concept behind it isn't really horrible, but giving Bendis this much power could be great or a disaster. It's definatly less destructive to canon than something like 'DC's Crisis' was. But it all depends on how it works out in the end. If it does help stabalize the canon in the Marvel Universe into one cohesive entity then it's worth it. I'm just hoping that it doesn't turn into another 'Bendis Murder-A-Thon'. And that they also use this kick to the continuity nuts to bring back and fix a few characters that have been damaged or lamely killed over the years by various writers actions. :)

[atoningunifex]

Do you think House of M is going to be Onslaught 05 or Inferno 05?

it's going to be Crisis on Infinite Retcons.

[Dizzy D]

Right, I was wondering if anyone knows of all the confirmed dead from the Genoshan Genocide? Or if there are any at all confirmed deaths from the incident.

The only confirmed ones that I know about are Kitty's father and those kids in Emma's class just before the Sentinel hit. For the rest all the victims seem to be nameless mutants. (You can take the Acolytes all as probably casualties, but I don't know if they have been confirmed.)

[atoningunifex]

The only confirmed ones that I know about are Kitty's father and those kids in Emma's class just before the Sentinel hit. For the rest all the victims seem to be nameless mutants. (You can take the Acolytes all as probably casualties, but I don't know if they have been confirmed.)

My guess would be that no previously named characters besides Kitty's dad died in Genosha. So, 16 Million mutants with names like Pete, Alan, Cecily and Atomic Wedgie COncordance or whatever that chick named herself.

[Jack Flash]

whatever happened to Dr. Peter Corbeau? What ever happened to Magneto's Bermuda base?

[mattbib]

whatever happened to Dr. Peter Corbeau? What ever happened to Magneto's Bermuda base?
Peter's still in space I believe...he was last seen during Maximum Security IIRC.

History of the Bermuda Island can be found here (http://www.uncannyxmen.net/db/atlas/showquestion.asp?faq=9&fldAuto=64). It was destroyed in X-Men Unlimited (1st Series) #9.

[Jack Flash]

Did Corbeau's company "Starcore" get bought out by NASA?

[Doom Hammer]

What happened to Fantomex after his New X Men appearances? In Weapon X?

[Dizzy D]

What happened to Fantomex after his New X Men appearances? In Weapon X?

He appeared recently in Mystique (as in 2 or so issues ago).

[Doom Hammer]

He appeared recently in Mystique (as in 2 or so issues ago).

Really? Huh.

Mind telling me what happened? Last I heard, he had something of a disputable death in Weapon X, which I'm now assuming isn't true...

Which issues was he featured in in Weapon X? Maybe I'll buy them...

[Dizzy D]

Really? Huh.

Mind telling me what happened? Last I heard, he had something of a disputable death in Weapon X, which I'm now assuming isn't true...

Which issues was he featured in in Weapon X? Maybe I'll buy them...

I don't own the Mystique-issue in question, I just saw it in the previouslies in the next issue (from time to time I just seem to miss issues at my store.)

The Weapon X-ones were 23, 24 and 25 though there was not really that much going on storywise (one of the weaker Weapon X-arcs IMHO)

[Ryan K]

Really? Huh.

Mind telling me what happened? Last I heard, he had something of a disputable death in Weapon X, which I'm now assuming isn't true...

Which issues was he featured in in Weapon X? Maybe I'll buy them...

He appeared in Weapon X #23-25. What happened to him is kind of confusing and really up for deabte. A plot thread that was left dangling because of the cancellation of the series.

Hopefully answers will come in the upcoming Weapon X mini.

[Doom Hammer]

The Weapon X-ones were 23, 24 and 25 though there was not really that much going on storywise (one of the weaker Weapon X-arcs IMHO)


Yes, well, but it's Fantomex. I loves my Fantomex.

Also, I believe I am the ONLY one. :D

Than you, Ryan and Dizzy.

[Grendel0606]

Really? Huh.

Mind telling me what happened? Last I heard, he had something of a disputable death in Weapon X, which I'm now assuming isn't true...

Which issues was he featured in in Weapon X? Maybe I'll buy them...
Issues 20 & 21. We have summaries at www.uncannyxmen.net

[fishtaco]

did he die in #22? or EVA? I hope not.

I missed 22 on accident.

[Catalyst]

did he die in #22? or EVA? I hope not.

I missed 22 on accident.

Mystique injected a techno-organic virus into EVA in the most current issue of her series. this, in turn, hurt Fantomex whom she then stabbed in the gut and pushed off a cliff, iirc. we don't know if he's dead yet but she was definately trying to kill him.

[fishtaco]

Mystique injected a techno-organic virus into EVA in the most current issue of her series. this, in turn, hurt Fantomex whom she then stabbed in the gut and pushed off a cliff, iirc. we don't know if he's dead yet but she was definately trying to kill him.

kay. I have issue 21, but I didnt know how it turned out. Maybe well find out this issue.

[wingsofdamnation]

hi guys im having a bit of troubal here. i just finished wolverines fatal attraction series where he loses his adamantium and i allready know he goes to apocolypse to get it back but does anybody know what comics are involved in him getting back his adamantium and him becoming apocalypses fourth horseman Death??? if you do can you please email me with the info at Wingsofdamnation@yahoo.com thanks a ton.

[mattbib]

Uncanny X-Men #375
Wolverine #145-146

You can find issue summaries here (http://uncannyxmen.net/db/issues/).

[FunkyGreenJerusalem]

Goddamn that was a long dran out story though.

Somwhere in the 90's of wolverine he lost his nose.

And then he was supposed to get it back in wolvie #100. but didn't.

One of those great late 90's storylines that went on forever going nowhere.

[fishtaco]

I hate wolverine

[Squila Lord]

Were her powers ever explained? Does she use TK, or have some sort of precognitive powers where she starts the butterfly effect a week before she'll actually use her powers?

[DDM]

Her irises vanish as she psionically controls the weather with her mind; her powers are connected to her emotions. Therefore, Ororo has to be careful to keep her emotions in check. Ororo's hair can vanish as parts of it can become one with elemental powers she wields.

[Squila Lord]

so the ruling is she's a telepathof some sort?

[Indigo Al]

Uncanny #185 - where Rogue absorbs her - gives good insight into the workings of her power.

[DDM]

so the ruling is she's a telepathof some sort?

No. Storm is a mutant with the psionic ability to control the weather; she is not a telepath or a telekinetic. However, her mind is hard to read for telepaths--even as powerful as Charles Xavier--since she can wield lightning. The lightning creates a psychic static which makes it difficult to telepaths to read Ororo's mind. She electrocuted Emma Frost & Elias Bogan when each tried to gain control of Ororo's mind in "Schism." Jean mentioned to Ororo--in her mind--that even she has a difficult time reading Ororo's mind since Storm's natural ability is to wield the fury of the storm...

[Vegetarian Goat]

Storm's powers operate on the suspension of disbelief. The idea that an X-Gene could allow you to CONTROL THE WEATHER seems a little farfetched to me...

(realizes how silly that sounds as he remembers characters like Magneto.. )

But seriously- the book "The Science of X-Men" suggests that Storm's control over meteorological changes is telekinetic in nature. They say it's not a general TK, she wouldn't be able to lift a book like Jean, for example, but her psionic abilities include an instinctive knowledge of exactly what factors she'd have to manipulate to cause a change in the weather. The book argues that even though Jean & Charles are more powerful psis, they don't have this knowledge, and that's why they can't perform the same acts as Storm.

I realize this isn't canon, but it provides a somewhat logical explanation of how her powers could work, and they haven't really explained it in the comics...

[LordAllMighty]

But seriously- the book "The Science of X-Men" suggests that Storm's control over meteorological changes is telekinetic in nature. They say it's not a general TK, she wouldn't be able to lift a book like Jean, for example, but her psionic abilities include an instinctive knowledge of exactly what factors she'd have to manipulate to cause a change in the weather. The book argues that even though Jean & Charles are more powerful psis, they don't have this knowledge, and that's why they can't perform the same acts as Storm.

I realize this isn't canon, but it provides a somewhat logical explanation of how her powers could work, and they haven't really explained it in the comics...

To tell you the truth, I always thought this was a logical way to explain Storm's powers. She has a specialized form of telekinesis that can only affect meteorological substance.

[OmniGamer]

Well actually, at the base of things, Storm is an energy manipulator, in her case, it's a specialized subset. For the most part, this ability is manifested as "weather control"...she sees things in patterns of energy...think of it like a musical instrument, like a harp...depending on how you "stroke" the strings, a different note/pitch is produced...similiar, depending on how she strokes those energy patterns, a different weather effect is produced with differing intensities.

[Squila Lord]

So would she be able to control things like solar wind? That'd make her quite powerful.

[OmniGamer]

Yeah she's already controlled solar winds back during the "Brood" era...and to purge herself of a Brood embryo, she channelled the energy of a galactic core(a crapload of stars) through her body...which killed her, but she was brought back to life by an alien being from a race known as the Acanti(enemies of the Brood).

[Squila Lord]

Schwooooooo! that's all I have to say to that! Schwooooooo!

[chemicalx]

anyone know any good storm websites?

[roguestorm]

Yeah she's already controlled solar winds back during the "Brood" era...and to purge herself of a Brood embryo, she channelled the energy of a galactic core(a crapload of stars) through her body...which killed her, but she was brought back to life by an alien being from a race known as the Acanti(enemies of the Brood).


which barely makes any sense since solar wind isn't really wind at all but radiation.

[chemicalx]

which barely makes any sense since solar wind isn't really wind at all but radiation.
but it does fit into the energy manipulation theory

[DDM]

So would she be able to control things like solar wind? That'd make her quite powerful.

Storm first manipulated the solar wind in Uncanny X-Men #99 against the Sentinels in space.

[The Fury]

Simple question, who first said and pointed out about the fact that mutants are immune to AIDs? What book?

[LoneWolf21]

AFAIK it was in Austen's Uncanny X-Men. Can't recall the issue number off hand though, and if it was mentioned peviously, I'm not aware of it.

[Tony Peanuts]

Simple question, who first said and pointed out about the fact that mutants are immune to AIDs? What book?

That was Paige Guthrie in one of Austen's Uncanny issues - Right after the dominant species arc because she mentioned it to Annie after Warren healed her with his blood. #421 I reckon, although I'm not sure of the precise numbers.
Presumably the idea was introduced so that Chuck Austen could have Angel use his new blood-healing power freely, without any talk of disease. That seems a bit silly really 'cause there was a possible future story idea right there.

[The Fury]

Right, thanks to you both.

[fishtaco]

Also, I believe Chuck Austen based that off the real life fact that people with genetic disorders have a slightly stronger immune system. I learned that a few days ago, and immediately thought of this. Thats one of the things I really liked that Austen established.

"Ramona, test this man for viruses. AIDS, Hepatits..."

"Mutants can't aquire AIDS doctor, I would of thought you knew that."

"True, mutants don't. But for all I know you are a nut with a gluegun and chicken feathers all over your backyard!"

"hahaha. Yeah, I get that a lot. But you must admit, doc, that a glue gun and stolen feathers wouldnt allow me to do this (flies up in the air)."

"Ramona, get me a scalpel."

"Right away, doctor."

[The Sword Is Drawn]

I've been trying to pick my way through X-Men continuity for over 10 years now - and very rewarding it has been.

However, one section of X-History I have not been able to work out was The Seige Perilous.

As far as I can tell this particular chapter of X-Men back history has not beewn reprinted. All I know is that after this storyline had finished the X-Men were thought dead, Actually residing in Australia, Kitty and Kurt went off and co-formed Excalibur, whilst Psylocke got spliced/mixed up with the assasin known as Revanche...

So, my question is simple: What the hell was it?

And can anybody fill me in...? :D

[Sheldon]

A plot device to reboot the x-men....

[mattbib]

Refer to the X-Books Forum FAQ...

What is the Siege Perilous? (http://users.rcn.com/kateshort/faqs/racmxFAQ/faq7.html#SIEGE)

[The Sword Is Drawn]

I was kind of thinking more from an actual storyline point of view... :D

[mattbib]

See my previous post...you may have missed it due to our posting at the same time.

[The Sword Is Drawn]

I did, and thanks very much for the link to the FAQ.

Cheers

[roguestorm]

but it does fit into the energy manipulation theory


elemental weather energy. solar wind is none of those things.

[geewaiho]

just wanted to know why has polaris gone mad???, i havent followed xmen for ages and slowly getting back into things, also found out she battled magneto and lost during his min comic run, did he really beat the crap out of her or has her control of her powers improved alot???.

[Tommy]

What ever happened to the giant ship from X-factor V1?

[Dizzy D]

What ever happened to the giant ship from X-factor V1?

Was infected with a virus by Apocalypse and blew up in X-factor #67, but the A.I. was taken to the future with Nathan Summers and became the Professor, his mentor.

When Nathan returned to the 20th century as Cable, the Professor became the operating system for Cable's orbital base and time-travel machine Greymalkin (that may have had parts of Ship in it because Sam and Roberto recognised it as Ship when they entered it). Magneto stole Greymalkin and turned it into Avalon, but Cable transferred the Professor to his own techno-organic bodyparts and then to X-force's base.

When the Phalanx invaded X-force base and tried to hack their computer, the Professor took that unit over and gained a body. He renamed himself Prosh (a combination of Professor and Ship). Prosh build himself a spaceship and left Earth. He returned in X-men Forever and at the end of that transports himself and his enemy the Stranger into Eternity's body were both remain captive for now.

[Dizzy D]

just wanted to know why has polaris gone mad???, i havent followed xmen for ages and slowly getting back into things, also found out she battled magneto and lost during his min comic run, did he really beat the crap out of her or has her control of her powers improved alot???.

I haven't read the fight in the mini, but I have some other issues and this was at the time that Magneto was nearly powerless after his fight with Joseph, so the fight would actually have been in Polaris' advantage (unless Magneto already restored his power at that point in the story)

Polaris probably went mad because she was in Genosha when the Sentinels landed and killed 16 million mutants around her. (Though she also showed some signs of mental instability during the Twelve.)

[atoningunifex]

Polaris went mad because she'd found out she was really Magneto's daughter, was worshipped by the citizens of Genosha and then watched while they were all destroyed.


What? I didn't write it.

[Trystenn]

Now what i want to know is this......

Why is Gambit such a pimp?

[Tommy]

Now what i want to know is this......

Why is Gambit such a pimp?
Well there is not much other use for him. Outside of tired Soap Opera plots he has no real point.

[Trystenn]

Well there is not much other use for him. Outside of tired Soap Opera plots he has no real point.
Im sorry but i kinda have a wierd dude crush on Gambit.

Anyways real question why exactly is Racheal with the X-Men?

[Tommy]

Im sorry but i kinda have a wierd dude crush on Gambit.
I like Gambit a lot myself. But no one has done much with him outside of giving him an incomprehensible back-story and have him mooning over Rogue for years and years.

[Trystenn]

I like Gambit a lot myself. But no one has done much with him outside of giving him an incomprehensible back-story and have him mooning over Rogue for years and years.
What about my other question? and im looking for a good Le Diable Blanc pic if youve got one.

[fishtaco]

Im sorry but i kinda have a wierd dude crush on Gambit.

Anyways real question why exactly is Racheal with the X-Men?

I beleive she was last seen at the end of the Cable series, but she showed up at the end of X-treme X-men (and towards the beginning, but we dont know its her). Elias Bogan has had a pet telepath that he had control over do his dirty work. At the end of XXM, Rogue, Sage, and Shadowcat worked together to get rid of Bogan and free the telepath, who turned out to be Rachel. When Xorn blew up New York, the X-treme X-men moved back to the Mansion, and Rachel became a member of the X.S.E, led by Storm.

[Trystenn]

I beleive she was last seen at the end of the Cable series, but she showed up at the end of X-treme X-men (and towards the beginning, but we dont know its her). Elias Bogan has had a pet telepath that he had control over do his dirty work. At the end of XXM, Rogue, Sage, and Shadowcat worked together to get rid of Bogan and free the telepath, who turned out to be Rachel. When Xorn blew up New York, the X-treme X-men moved back to the Mansion, and Rachel became a member of the X.S.E, led by Storm.
But i keep seeing her in Uncanny, and apparently shes got beef with Emma.

[fishtaco]

But i keep seeing her in Uncanny, and apparently shes got beef with Emma.

yep. Starting on issue 444, X-treme X-men was cancelled, but the plot and characters and all dat moved to Uncanny. Thus, Austen's stuff moved to adjectiveless X-men, and Morrison's stuff (now Whedon) is in Astonishing X-men, which is a new title. and yes, shes got big (BEEF!!!!!!!!!!!!) with Emma.

[Trystenn]

yep. Starting on issue 444, X-treme X-men was cancelled, but the plot and characters and all dat moved to Uncanny. Thus, Austen's stuff moved to adjectiveless X-men, and Morrison's stuff (now Whedon) is in Astonishing X-men, which is a new title. and yes, shes got big (BEEF!!!!!!!!!!!!) with Emma.
lol still cant get over Scott and his Infamous kiss.

[fishtaco]

lol still cant get over Scott and his Infamous kiss.
I'm hating it.

Does anyone know what issue Colossus killed Proteus?

[Trystenn]

I'm hating it.

Does anyone know what issue Colossus killed Proteus?
Well it was when she was all fat, jeez funny funny stuff.

[Ryan K]

Polaris went mad because she'd found out she was really Magneto's daughter, was worshipped by the citizens of Genosha and then watched while they were all destroyed.

Don't forget that after all this, the man she loved (Havok) left her at the altar for another woman (Nurse Annie).

Then add a cherry on top, by mentioning that Nurse Annie's son Carter had actually manipulated Havok into loving Nurse Annie by messing with both of their minds while Havok was in a coma. Everybody seems to recognize that this was the case, and nobody seems to really care.

[Ryan K]

Does anyone know what issue Colossus killed Proteus?

IIRC, Uncanny X-Men #128.

[Trystenn]

I'm hating it.

Does anyone know what issue Colossus killed Proteus?
IIRC Uncanny #128 or 9

[geewaiho]

i kinda like the new polaris being mad and all, she was a far to clean for my liking before, least now shes more interesting to read, and ruthless according to recent issues of x men. potentally can polaris match the powers of magneto if she had more control over tapping into the earths magnetic field??? or she ahs that control already.

[mattbib]

potentally can polaris match the powers of magneto if she had more control over tapping into the earths magnetic field??? or she ahs that control already.Potentially I think she's more powerful than Magneto. During one point she was powering him and herself.

[Indigo Al]

Can someone give me a recap of the Death of Maggot.

I know he gets a lot of hate around here - but I'm obsessed with him! He was so bizarre.

[Dizzy D]

Can someone give me a recap of the Death of Maggot.

I know he gets a lot of hate around here - but I'm obsessed with him! He was so bizarre.

Pretty short actually: Weapon X's Director hated mutants because Wolverine once went to town on his face (Don't blame Logan though, he just escaped from Weapon X and was still drugged and out of his mind and this guy was a guard between him and the exit).

He used his power to set up Neverland, a concentration camp for mutants and ordered his troops to capture mutants from all over the country. Leech, connected to devices within Neverland, would take away their powers. Maggot was one of the mutants captured. He became friends with a family who was captured and at one point the prisoners were divided in two groups (According to Maggot who belonged to another group than the family, his group was the group of the people who were more trouble than they were worth to the people behind the camp.) He gave one of his maggots to one of the children of the family and went with a lot of other captured mutants into a hall. (One of the children looks through the window and sees what happens. It isn't shown, but it is pretty clear that Maggot and the other mutants are killed, probably with gas.) The children get help from a Dr. Windsor and escape, taking the maggot with them.*

This all happens in Weapon X #5 so it's just a single issue you need to backtrack.

*= Dr. Windsor later turns out to be Sinister in disguise and the maggot is seen within a tank in his lab.

[Indigo Al]

Pretty short actually: Weapon X's Director hated mutants because Wolverine once went to town on his face (Don't blame Logan though, he just escaped from Weapon X and was still drugged and out of his mind and this guy was a guard between him and the exit).

He used his power to set up Neverland, a concentration camp for mutants and ordered his troops to capture mutants from all over the country. Leech, connected to devices within Neverland, would take away their powers. Maggot was one of the mutants captured. He became friends with a family who was captured and at one point the prisoners were divided in two groups (According to Maggot who belonged to another group than the family, his group was the group of the people who were more trouble than they were worth to the people behind the camp.) He gave one of his maggots to one of the children of the family and went with a lot of other captured mutants into a hall. (One of the children looks through the window and sees what happens. It isn't shown, but it is pretty clear that Maggot and the other mutants are killed, probably with gas.) The children get help from a Dr. Windsor and escape, taking the maggot with them.*

This all happens in Weapon X #5 so it's just a single issue you need to backtrack.

*= Dr. Windsor later turns out to be Sinister in disguise and the maggot is seen within a tank in his lab.

Thank you! Sounds like a Maggot clone could be coming our way soon...

[Catalyst]

Potentially I think she's more powerful than Magneto. During one point she was powering him and herself.


wasn't that when Magneto, himself, was powerless?


can someone tell me when John Sublime first appeared in the Weapon X series? i'd much appreciate it. :D

[Dizzy D]

wasn't that when Magneto, himself, was powerless?


can someone tell me when John Sublime first appeared in the Weapon X series? i'd much appreciate it. :D

Look a bit back, somebody asked the Weapon X issues with Fantomex, those are also the first appearances of John Sublime in Weapon X.

[Sheldon]

What is Feral up to lately?

She was everything Rahne should have been!

[atoningunifex]

What is Feral up to lately?

She was everything Rahne should have been!


Isn't she one of the Bollywood Style X-Corps members in India? I'd imagine she's breaking into a dance number with a million costume changes right about now.

I'd love a Bollywood mutant comic book. I'd love it in ways illegal in Utah.

[Sheldon]

Isn't she one of the Bollywood Style X-Corps members in India? I'd imagine she's breaking into a dance number with a million costume changes right about now.

I'd love a Bollywood mutant comic book. I'd love it in ways illegal in Utah.

Yeah....Bollywood would take Feral to the next level....I can't wait for the X-Force Bollywood X-over. With Liefeld's plotting how can it go wrong!

[atoningunifex]

Oh yeah, baby. And, quite frankly, Cable doing a dance number while lip-synching to an Indian pop star's great new hit would probably be the most sublime moment in comics hsitory. I would buy eighteen copies.

[Sheldon]

I hate how Marvel is holding Liefeld back......Damn you Marvel!!!!

[atoningunifex]

Damn them indeed! We should start a petition to let Liefeld do his Bollywood Story!

[Sheldon]

Liefeld's Bollywood X-Treme X-Force has been kept from us for too long!

[Doom Hammer]

I didn't want to start a new thread about this, so I'll ask it here.

I went to the comic shop today to pick up the Weapon X issues with Fantomex. Instead, I bought the "Counting Down to Zero" arc.

Really great stuff. Weapon X is really one of the most interesting corners of the X-universe.

So, I naturally want more. What are the best arcs/issues, so I don't buy random bullcrap?

:D

[Ryan K]

I didn't want to start a new thread about this, so I'll ask it here.

I went to the comic shop today to pick up the Weapon X issues with Fantomex. Instead, I bought the "Counting Down to Zero" arc.

Really great stuff. Weapon X is really one of the most interesting corners of the X-universe.

So, I naturally want more. What are the best arcs/issues, so I don't buy random bullcrap?

:D

IMO, the first two arcs (Weapon X 1-6 and 7-13) are the best. The Single story in #14 entitle Sinister's List is also very good.

But really, the whole series is worth picking up. Because like you said it's a very interesting corner of the x-universe.

[bagheera]

Help!!! What is this pic from?

http://www.angelfire.com/ns2/wolv6/wieringo02.jpg

The artist is Wieringo. I've googled myself silly trying to find what this is from. I believe there is one more pic from it. I'll try to post it, too.

[bagheera]

Here's the other one................
http://www.angelfire.com/ns2/wolv6/wieringo01.jpg

Ok, what is it from?

:confused:

[Ecoman]

I didn't want to start a new thread about this, so I'll ask it here.

I went to the comic shop today to pick up the Weapon X issues with Fantomex. Instead, I bought the "Counting Down to Zero" arc.

Really great stuff. Weapon X is really one of the most interesting corners of the X-universe.

So, I naturally want more. What are the best arcs/issues, so I don't buy random bullcrap?

:D

Weapon X is one of the few x-books I've not read yet. I hear glorious things about it though. Who are the main players in it and what's the basic deal? I know it isn't all Logan and Creed dukin' it out over this and that all over again (thankfully) but what exactly is it about?

[Ryan K]

Weapon X is one of the few x-books I've not read yet. I hear glorious things about it though. Who are the main players in it and what's the basic deal? I know it isn't all Logan and Creed dukin' it out over this and that all over again (thankfully) but what exactly is it about?

A complicated question.

For the first three arcs (Weapon X 1-13 and the 5 Weapon X one shots)the book focuses on the Weapon X program and it's operatives who include Aurora, Wild Child, Agent Zero, Mesmero, Sauron, Marrow, Sabretooth, Washout, and Agent Jackson. All under the leadership of the Director. What none of them really know is that the Director has plans beyond them including wiping out mutants at a concentration camp called Neverland.

In the second arc, Cable forms and Underground movement including Blaquesmith, Maverick, Domino, and Meltdown to take down Weapon X. They recruit Weapon X operatives through the story.

After a single issue story about Mr Sinister (Weapon X #14), Chamber joins the Weapon X program in a story arc (Weapon X #15-18).

After this the book starts to go into Wolverine's connections to the Weapon X program and his history with the Director. Fantomex and Agent Zero join him to help find answers to some things (I don't want to give too much away) (Weapon X 19-25)

The last arc (Weapon X #26-28) involves Sabretooth, Mr. Sinister, and a lot of history to the Weapon X program.

The book ended with most of it's storylines being slightly unresolved, but a new mini series is coming out this year and will hopefully shed some light on things.

Overall the book was very interesting IMO, and really further the plot on a lot of x-characters that had gotten brushed to the wayside in the other books. Most of the stories in the book are important enough that they should/could have been told in the core books.

Hope that helps.

[Doom Hammer]

A complicated question.

For the first three arcs (Weapon X 1-13 and the 5 Weapon X one shots)the book focuses on the Weapon X program and it's operatives who include Aurora, Wild Child, Agent Zero, Mesmero, Sauron, Marrow, Sabretooth, Washout, and Agent Jackson. All under the leadership of the Director. What none of them really know is that the Director has plans beyond them including wiping out mutants at a concentration camp called Neverland.

In the second arc, Cable forms and Underground movement including Blaquesmith, Maverick, Domino, and Meltdown to take down Weapon X. They recruit Weapon X operatives through the story.

After a single issue story about Mr Sinister (Weapon X #14), Chamber joins the Weapon X program in a story arc (Weapon X #15-18).

After this the book starts to go into Wolverine's connections to the Weapon X program and his history with the Director. Fantomex and Agent Zero join him to help find answers to some things (I don't want to give too much away) (Weapon X 19-25)

The last arc (Weapon X #26-28) involves Sabretooth, Mr. Sinister, and a lot of history to the Weapon X program.

The book ended with most of it's storylines being slightly unresolved, but a new mini series is coming out this year and will hopefully shed some light on things.

Overall the book was very interesting IMO, and really further the plot on a lot of x-characters that had gotten brushed to the wayside in the other books. Most of the stories in the book are important enough that they should/could have been told in the core books.

Hope that helps.

Thanks bunches, Ryan.

But next time, could you be a little more specific? :D Jk

[Tommy]

Who has had the largest number of "partners" in the X-books?

[Trystenn]

Who has had the largest number of "partners" in the X-books?
Do you mean lovers?
Gambit.

[Karl J. Barnes]

Who has had the largest number of "partners" in the X-books?

Scott's got some notches on his bed post. Jean,Maddie, Lee Forester, Colleen Wing, Emma, he is such a stud muffin!

[Catalyst]

what issue of Weapon X did John Sublime first appear in?

[Karl J. Barnes]

Who has had the largest number of "partners" in the X-books?

But seriously, it would probably have to be Logan. He's been around like FOREVER!

[Beast]

Beast is no slouch when it comes to the ladies either. Other than the fact he's been stuck on Trish Tilby for so long. But comic wise, he's been with the following.

Jennifer Nyles, Vera Cantor, Linda Donaldson, Dazzler, Trish Tilby (numerous times), Lupa (sorta) Cecelia Reyes, and Storm (Ultimate), off the top of my head. Not to mention various ladies after becoming a member of the Avengers. He and Wonder Man used to go out cruising the bars quite often. :)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v97/MasterSplinter/LadiesMan.jpg

[streator]

he was never with cecilia. there was tension and some flirtation, but nothing physical happened. im almost 100 percent sure of this.

[Beast]

he was never with cecilia. there was tension and some flirtation, but nothing physical happened. im almost 100 percent sure of this.
X-Men: The End, he's married to her. And they run a rescue hospital for mutants in Africa. It counts, imho. :)

[streator]

X-Men: The End, he's married to her. And they run a rescue hospital for mutants in Africa. It counts, imho. :)
i didnt pick up the title. kind of a crappy end for beast, i guess. one of the smartest characters in the mu running a rescue hospital.
in terms of normal 616 continuity, did dr. reyes make it out of neverland? or was it left unanswered when weapon x ended?

[Beast]

Considering that in X-Men: The End, mutants seem to be dieing out for some unknown reason, I think it's a fitting end for Hank. The mutant genome is actually burning out, killing mutants unless they're put in stasis in time. Giving up the 'superhero gig' to try to save mutantkind is what I believe Hank would do in a case like this. And the fact that he's happily married to Dr. Reyes, and has regained his original blue furry look is even better. :)

As for current canon, it's up in the air. Supposedly she died off panel, but that's a craptastic death that never should have been done. Hopefully with the upcoming Weapon X mini, they can bring her back to the X-Books. It sure the hell would be a lot better than Hank running back to ole Trish Tilby again. :p

[jeangreydp]

Considering that in X-Men: The End, mutants seem to be dieing out for some unknown reason, I think it's a fitting end for Hank. The mutant genome is actually burning out, killing mutants unless they're put in statis in time. Giving up the 'superhero gig' to try to save mutantkind is what I believe Hank would do in a case like this. And the fact that he's happily married to Dr. Reyes, and has regained his original blue furry look is even better. :)

As for current canon, it's up in the air. Supposedly she died off panel, but that's a craptastic death that never should have been done. Hopefully with the upcoming Weapon X mini, they can bring her back to the X-Books. It sure the hell would be a lot better than Hank running back to ole Trish Tilby again. :p

Agreed. Trish Tilby can eat it.

I really like the fact that Hank is running a rescue hospital. I think that's the type of thing a sweetheart like him is cut out for.

[Beast]

Agreed. Trish Tilby can eat it.
Marvel Holiday Special 2004 really annoyed me. I can't believe they had Hank calling Trish up to get back together for the holidays. I want to smack the writer around for that. Especially since Hank can do so much better than the woman who keeps screwing him over every chance she gets. I understand it's his flaw, that he's stuck on her. That even though he's a brilliant man who should know better, his heart is still stuck on a woman who is so wrong and bad for him. Ugh. Makes me wish the 'gay reveal' was true sometimes. :p

[Tommy]

What was Jenny Ransome's mutation?

[DDM]

What was Jenny Ransome's mutation?

Originally, her mutant power was that of a healer. But when was changed into a Genoshan mutate, her power was changed to manipulate the Earth; Dr. Moreau said Genosha had too many healers already. Therefore, he decided to change her power to something else with the mutate process.

[Doom Hammer]

I wanna know if anyne noticed this...

In Weapon X 28, Sinister's Journal read...

"I want this ish to be done and over with. I hate sloggong on with a dead book. But I'll do what I have to."

It was crossed out, but could be read.

Thought it was pretty funny.

[Dizzy D]

Originally, her mutant power was that of a healer. But when was changed into a Genoshan mutate, her power was changed to manipulate the Earth; Dr. Moreau said Genosha had too many healers already. Therefore, he decided to change her power to something else with the mutate process.

He changed it to a combination of superstrength/invulnerability (as seen when she stops a group of muggers from beating up Peter Rasputin in New York a couple of months later)

[Karl J. Barnes]

Beast is no slouch when it comes to the ladies either. Other than the fact he's been stuck on Trish Tilby for so long. But comic wise, he's been with the following.

Jennifer Nyles, Vera Cantor, Linda Donaldson, Dazzler, Trish Tilby (numerous times), Lupa (sorta) Cecelia Reyes, and Storm (Ultimate), off the top of my head. Not to mention various ladies after becoming a member of the Avengers. He and Wonder Man used to go out cruising the bars quite often. :)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v97/MasterSplinter/LadiesMan.jpg

Was at the height of his popularity as an Avenger. He certainly was a properly stuffed teddy bear.

[OmniGamer]

Here's a question i've been wondering...when was Jean and Scott's psychic rapport re-established? After Jean died on the Moon, that was that...then she came back, but was only a telekinetic until later on when Psynapse inadvertantly reactivated her telepathy. Was there ever a moment when Jean officially re-establishes the rapport...or does it just "happen"?

[DDM]

Here's a question i've been wondering...when was Jean and Scott's psychic rapport re-established? After Jean died on the Moon, that was that...then she came back, but was only a telekinetic until later on when Psynapse inadvertantly reactivated her telepathy. Was there ever a moment when Jean officially re-establishes the rapport...or does it just "happen"?

Uncanny X-Men #132

After Jean & Scott made love on the butte, Jean asked Scott if she could establish a permanent psychic rapport between them at all times. However, this was revealed in Uncanny X-Men #133 through a flashback since it happened off panel in the original issue. The psychic rapport was the key in breaking Mastermind's psionic rapport he forged with the White Queen's mindtap mechanism (this device gave Mastermind artificial telepathic powers which allowed Wyngarde to project illusions directly into Phoenix's mind; it allowed him to bypass Phoenix's telepathic powers which would have alerted her to Wyngarde's illusions). The rapport still existed from Uncanny X-Men #132-137 until Phoenix died.

[Dizzy D]

Uncanny X-Men #132

After Jean & Scott made love on the butte, Jean asked Scott if she could establish a permanent psychic rapport between them at all times. However, this was revealed in Uncanny X-Men #133 through a flashback since it happened off panel in the original issue. The psychic rapport was the key in breaking Mastermind's psionic rapport he forged with the White Queen's mindtap mechanism (this device gave Mastermind artificial telepathic powers which allowed Wyngarde to project illusions directly into Phoenix's mind; it allowed him to bypass Phoenix's telepathic powers which would have alerted her to Wyngarde's illusions). The rapport still existed from Uncanny X-Men #132-137 until Phoenix died.

He's asking when the bond was reestablished. And my guess is X-factor 65-68, at the same time when her telepathic powers return, because she immediately is linked to the rest of X-factor (including Cyclops). It was definitely there in X-men (vol2) #1, because Jean Grey knows that Cyclops and his team switch sides to Magneto in that story-arc.

[DDM]

He's asking when the bond was reestablished. And my guess is X-factor 65-68, at the same time when her telepathic powers return, because she immediately is linked to the rest of X-factor (including Cyclops). It was definitely there in X-men (vol2) #1, because Jean Grey knows that Cyclops and his team switch sides to Magneto in that story-arc.

Unlike the original telepathic rapport I mentioned, Jean never officially re-established the psychic rapport after she regained her telepathy. Morrison makes mention of Jean's private psychic rapport in New X-Men, although Scott & Emma Frost kept their telepathic affair very well hidden from Jean until the Cuckoos alerted Jean of Scott's "affair" with Emma...

[Sheldon]

Does Logan still use "cripes" as a swear word?

I miss him saying that....

[DDM]

Does Logan still use "cripes" as a swear word?

I miss him saying that....

Unfortunately, today's Marvel comics use real swear words instead of the good substitutes such as "blast" or "cripes"...

[Tommy]

Unfortunately, today's Marvel comics use real swear words instead of the good substitutes such as "blast" or "cripes"...
The Invisable Woman now says "Damn"

[DDM]

The Invisable Woman now says "Damn"

I wrote a negative letter to Marvel about Sue's swearing; that it was completely out of character for her. I dropped the book not long afterwards...

[Trystenn]

I have a Question....


Can you guys please give me a very descriptive of Skin?
Also the nature of his and Jubilees romance, i just need to know!!!

[Trystenn]

I have a Question....


Can you guys please give me a very descriptive of Skin?
Also the nature of his and Jubilees romance, i just need to know!!!
Cmon guys i need answers!!!

[mattbib]

Skin (http://www.mutanthigh.com/skin.html) is dead.

He and Jubes never really had a relationship. She just pined for him after he was dead.