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mattbib
11-08-2004, 12:52 PM
Has Beast ever had a solo series, other then the brief run in Amazing Fantasy where he orignally turned blue.

For a guy who's been in tons of teams and been round for A LONG time its odd he hasn't as far as I can remember.Not really solo, but he did have...

...a book with Dazzler back in 1985:
http://image2.milehighcomics.com/istore/images/large/09597295546.1.gif (http://milehighcomics.com/cgi-bin/backissue.cgi?action=fullsize&issue=09597295546%201)

...an X-Factor one-shot back in 1990:
http://image2.milehighcomics.com/istore/images/large/97464022508.1.gif (http://milehighcomics.com/cgi-bin/backissue.cgi?action=fullsize&issue=97464022508%201)

...a three-issue limited series in 1997 featuring Cannonball and Karma among others:
http://image2.milehighcomics.com/istore/images/large/09489135242.1.gif (http://milehighcomics.com/cgi-bin/backissue.cgi?action=fullsize&issue=09489135242%201)[/url][url="http://milehighcomics.com/cgi-bin/backissue.cgi?action=fullsize&issue=09489135242%203"] (http://milehighcomics.com/cgi-bin/backissue.cgi?action=fullsize&issue=09489135242%202)

...a three-issue limited series with Wonder Man in 2000:
http://image2.milehighcomics.com/istore/images/large/05933365248.1.gif (http://milehighcomics.com/cgi-bin/backissue.cgi?action=fullsize&issue=05933365248%201)

Beast
11-08-2004, 01:49 PM
Poor Beast, he's never really gotten the respect and recognition he's deserved. Especially being one of the founding five, he's usually screwed out of everything major. He's not a well loved or incredibly popular character for some reason. Something I never really understood, just what don't fans like about him. Hell, even look at the X-Men movies, Beast and Angel were both shafted out of that. Beast and Angel were more or less originally left out of X-Men Evolution as well, Angel showing up in the occassional cameo. And Beast not showing up until the second season, and just as a support character for the most part. :(

methanolcereal
11-08-2004, 04:52 PM
Poor Beast, he's never really gotten the respect and recognition he's deserved. Especially being one of the founding five, he's usually screwed out of everything major. He's not a well loved or incredibly popular character for some reason. Something I never really understood, just what don't fans like about him. Hell, even look at the X-Men movies, Beast and Angel were both shafted out of that. Beast and Angel were more or less originally left out of X-Men Evolution as well, Angel showing up in the occassional cameo. And Beast not showing up until the second season, and just as a support character for the most part. :(
But, he ruled on the 90s Cartoon. Poor old Hank was slated to be in the first X-Men film but they didn't have the budget to make him look good (if I remember what Mr. Singer said correctly). If it counts for anything, he's one of my favorite X-Men and he's my sister's favorite.

gambitsgurl
11-08-2004, 06:12 PM
okay i looked all through my xtreme x-men issues and could not find it so it may not be in xx but I know i saw it somewhere. Okay there is a part in one of the books where storm has a flashback (it is around the same time xx was out) and Prof. X punches her in the stomach, and I think it has to do with why she doubts him and why she formed xx, i think. anyways my question is what is the story behind that and what book and what issue number was it in?
hopefully I am not imagining things. if anybody could help that would be great.

For the Good of X
11-08-2004, 06:21 PM
okay i looked all through my xtreme x-men issues and could not find it so it may not be in xx but I know i saw it somewhere. Okay there is a part in one of the books where storm has a flashback (it is around the same time xx was out) and Prof. X punches her in the stomach, and I think it has to do with why she doubts him and why she formed xx, i think. anyways my question is what is the story behind that and what book and what issue number was it in?
hopefully I am not imagining things. if anybody could help that would be great.
Are you refering to the ending of Schism? I don't believe Charlie X punched Storm but she was having gut issues due to her injuries during the Invasion storyline.

gambitsgurl
11-08-2004, 06:32 PM
okay but what book was this in and what was the issue #.
that way I can look it up and make sure I am asking about the right thing.
if nobody minds checking that out for me.
thanks.

For the Good of X
11-08-2004, 06:34 PM
okay but what book was this in and what was the issue #.
that way I can look it up and make sure I am asking about the right thing.
if nobody minds checking that out for me.
thanks.Schism:
http://www.uncannyxmen.net/db/issues/showquestion.asp?fldAuto=1191
http://www.uncannyxmen.net/db/issues/showquestion.asp?fldAuto=1221
http://www.uncannyxmen.net/db/issues/showquestion.asp?fldAuto=1221
http://www.uncannyxmen.net/db/issues/showquestion.asp?fldAuto=1243

gambitsgurl
11-08-2004, 06:40 PM
Schism:
http://www.uncannyxmen.net/db/issues/showquestion.asp?fldAuto=1191
http://www.uncannyxmen.net/db/issues/showquestion.asp?fldAuto=1221
http://www.uncannyxmen.net/db/issues/showquestion.asp?fldAuto=1221
http://www.uncannyxmen.net/db/issues/showquestion.asp?fldAuto=1243
lol
that might be a bit easier, for us all.
thanks.

Brian Cronin
11-09-2004, 03:04 AM
...a three-issue limited series in 1997 featuring Cannonball and Karma among others:
http://image2.milehighcomics.com/istore/images/large/09489135242.1.gif (http://milehighcomics.com/cgi-bin/backissue.cgi?action=fullsize&issue=09489135242%201)[/url][url="http://milehighcomics.com/cgi-bin/backissue.cgi?action=fullsize&issue=09489135242%203"] (http://milehighcomics.com/cgi-bin/backissue.cgi?action=fullsize&issue=09489135242%202)


Truly one of the most bizarre team-ups that I have ever seen.

"How about a series starring Beast, Cannonball and Karma?"

Weeeeeeeeeeeeeeird.

-Brian

Dizzy D
11-09-2004, 06:43 AM
Truly one of the most bizarre team-ups that I have ever seen.

"How about a series starring Beast, Cannonball and Karma?"

Weeeeeeeeeeeeeeird.

-Brian

I'll see your Beast, Karma and Cannonball and raise you a Franklin Richards, Artie & Leech, Man-Thing, Howard the Duck and Tana Nile.

BoosterBronze
11-09-2004, 01:43 PM
Can someone give me aquick briefing on Archangel, and why he's turning into... an actual angel: The costume, sword, hair etc. Is the execution of this concept any ess gay than the concept sounds?

DDM
11-09-2004, 01:44 PM
Can someone give me aquick briefing on Archangel, and why he's turning into... an actual angel: The costume, sword, hair etc. Is the execution of this concept any ess gay than the concept sounds?

It's all Austen's unoriginal logic: Since Warren Worthington III has wings, he must, naturally, be an angel with healing abilities. :rolleyes:

The Fury
11-09-2004, 01:48 PM
It's all Austen's unoriginal logic: Since Warren Worthington III has wings, he must, naturally, be an angel with healing abilities. :rolleyes:
I think turing into a bird would have been better, in an irony type of way (is that irony?, he naming himself Angel and not evolving into one at all?).

At least he hasn't got the Angelous vioce thing like Icarus.

The Lucky One
11-09-2004, 01:51 PM
I'll see your Beast, Karma and Cannonball and raise you a Franklin Richards, Artie & Leech, Man-Thing, Howard the Duck and Tana Nile.

Wasn't Tana Nile Superboy's girlfriend? I thought Howard's girlfriend was Beverly Switzer? Or am I thinking of someone else?

Regardless, I'll see that and raise you Siryn, Warlock, Sunspot, an evil Madrox dupe, Moon Boy, Devil Dinosaur, Chance, the mutant alien Ariel, the Vanisher, Boom-Boom, and a cyborg named Gomi with two mentally-controlled lobsters, Don and Bill, one of whom happens to be a mutant.

Beat that, you bastards.
:D

-D

mattbib
11-09-2004, 02:00 PM
Wasn't Tana Nile Superboy's girlfriend? I thought Howard's girlfriend was Beverly Switzer? Or am I thinking of someone else?Beverly Switzer is Howard's girlfriend, but that's not who Dizzy D was referring to. Tana Nile, of the Rigellians, was in the Daydreamers limited series with those other characters.

DDM
11-09-2004, 02:15 PM
I think turing into a bird would have been better, in an irony type of way (is that irony?, he naming himself Angel and not evolving into one at all?).

At least he hasn't got the Angelous vioce thing like Icarus.

Angel did devolve into a bird creature when he helped Spider-Man fight off the Savage Land Mutates & Sauron in Marvel Fanfare #1-2.

Stagier
11-09-2004, 02:19 PM
I think turing into a bird would have been better, in an irony type of way (is that irony?, he naming himself Angel and not evolving into one at all?).

.

in an Alanis morrison kind of way, yes.

The Lucky One
11-09-2004, 02:45 PM
Beverly Switzer is Howard's girlfriend, but that's not who Dizzy D was referring to. Tana Nile, of the Rigellians, was in the Daydreamers limited series with those other characters.

So who was Superboy's girlfriend? Wait, I remember- Tana Moon. Right.

Well, that cleared that up.

-D

mattbib
11-09-2004, 03:25 PM
So who was Superboy's girlfriend? Wait, I remember- Tana Moon. Right.DNo idea.

*weirdo DC readers*

Brian Cronin
11-09-2004, 04:00 PM
Tana Moon. :)

And Fallen Angels does not count!! It was MEANT to be weird!

But yeah, Daydreamers is tougher. But I still think Beast wins, because Daydreamers at least made it implicit that it WAS a team! Beast's book was a team book, but called The Beast!!!

It was literally like they had a fill-in arc on X-Men planned, and decided to just make it a mini-series, and randomly picked Beast to be the title character. :D

-Brian

nubly
11-09-2004, 05:17 PM
did vivisector die in the final issue of x-statix?

Brian Cronin
11-09-2004, 05:19 PM
SPOILERS

They all died.

-Brian

Beast
11-09-2004, 05:24 PM
SPOILERS

They all died.

-Brian
Though unlike Milligan's previous deaths, these were done very vaguely. Most of them even took place off panel. Likely so they could be brought back if Milligan or Marvel ever wanted to. I still say they should have been shown to all be killed in the last issue, and then on the final panel show it to be a massive hoax.

That they decided to retire, and wanted to go out with a massive bang. One that would have cemented them as 'Real Heroes' and made them famous and rich as hell. Seeing them all retire on a private tropical island would have been my preferred ending for the series.

Which reminds me, I still need to add Vivisector and Sammy to me 'Unnecissary Death' list in my sig.

Flight
11-10-2004, 09:41 AM
Hi my friends :)

I'm currently collecitng back issues and was flicking through my new copy of Uncanny X-Men 170 when I read a panel by Mystique saying something about Rogue having a vendetta against Dazzler
Can someone explain this to me please??

mattbib
11-10-2004, 09:45 AM
Hi my friends :)

I'm currently collecitng back issues and was flicking through my new copy of Uncanny X-Men 170 when I read a panel by Mystique saying something about Rogue having a vendetta against Dazzler
Can someone explain this to me please??Needing somebody with whom to talk, Alison contacted Warren, whom she considered a good friend and he took her for a flight. Wanting revenge on the X-Men for having spoiled their plan to assassinate Senator Kelly, Mystique and her partners assaulted them, as the Angel was the only X-Man whose identity was publicly known. During the fight, Rogue was supposed to absorb the knowledge of the X-Men’s whereabouts from Worthington’s mind but Rogue freaked out. She did not want to use her powers on him, as the wings were a physical mutation and Rogue feared what effect that would have on her. While distracted with their own problems, Dazzler took Rogue and Mystique by surprise with her light powers. Rogue then developed a grudge against Dazzler, the woman who had everything that she wanted. Having been a fan of her music before, she now saw that Alison Blaire had also a controllable mutant power and a beautiful boyfriend. She fought Dazzler various times, even endangering Dazzler’s half-sister, Lois London, who was visiting from college. [Dazzler #22-24]

Soon afterwards, Dazzler somewhat reluctantly joined the X-Men. Rogue was not to pleased to see Alison run Danger Room scenarios with herself as the villain but, after saving each other lives in battle against the Marauders, the two women sorted out their differences. [Uncanny X-Men #220-221]

Flight
11-10-2004, 09:47 AM
I also flicked through Uncanny X-Men 221 (Havok cover!!)
Is this an important issue in the Roguer/Dazzler friendship?

EDIT: Nevermind, you edited, I edited, we all edited

mattbib
11-10-2004, 09:48 AM
I also flicked through Uncanny X-Men 221 (Havok cover!!)
Is this an important issue in the Roguer/Dazzler friendship?Yep; I edited in more to my initial response.

DrDoomX
11-10-2004, 12:33 PM
OK some of you may think these are stupid BUt I am missing some things in my x collection so here goes...

Ok when Storm got blasted by Gyrich with forges gun and lost her powers, how did Storm get her powers back?

When storm was "Killed" when Havok blasted Nanny, and orphan makers ship down, how did storm get into/Or transformed into the body of a child?

Just curious....

The Lucky One
11-10-2004, 12:38 PM
After she had lost her powers, she and Forge were stranded in an alternate dimension for months (though only minutes passed on Earth). During that time, Forge cobbled together a deneutralizer using components from his bionic leg, shot her with it, and she used lightning to power another machine of his that returned them home. If I'm remembering correctly, it's been a while.

As for Nanny and Orphan Maker... uh, damned if I remember. Sorry.
:confused:

-D

DDM
11-10-2004, 01:40 PM
In the flashback from Uncanny X-Men #267, Nanny placed Storm in a machine which not only caused Storm to de-age, but it also made Ororo an amnesiac. Nanny then made a copy of Storm's body & placed a smaller version of Nanny's ship. Havok, still fighting the influence of Nanny's drugs, confused, & with Nanny's goading, she influenced Havok to destroy the mock ship with the Storm mannaquin. Havok & the other X-Men had believed he had murdered Storm.

Ororo escaped Nanny & eventually met Gambit. The Shadow King sought to subvert Ororo; however, Gambit & Storm defeated both the Shadow King & Nanny. Storm eventually regained her memories after Gambit & she defeated Nanny. [Uncanny X-Men #253-255, 264-267]

DrDoomX
11-10-2004, 01:44 PM
Ok thanks DDM and thanks Lucky its something thats been bugging me awhile.

atoningunifex
11-10-2004, 01:57 PM
Wasn't the fake Ororo one of them there LMDs ? I vaguely remember being amused at LMDs and what wonderful plot devices they made.

Mr. Jip
11-10-2004, 02:29 PM
Yes it was a S.H.I.E.L.D. Life Model Decoy.

Sage, LMD & image-inducers & all of the FF crap are wonderful plot & retcon devices!!~~

gambitsgurl
11-12-2004, 12:10 AM
this is a silly one, but I did not think it warranted a whole thread devoted to it.
Who has seen The Big Lebowski?
Who is reading GAmbit and has read issue 3?
If you have you might be able to answer my question or at least agree with me.

Okay, in Gambit 3 there are two guys, they are walking down the street, Gambit steals something from them. It is a bowling ball, we see these two gentlemen next in a bowling alley, and the bigger guy discovers his prized bowling ball has been replaced with a cabbage.
Now, take what you know about The Big Lebowski:
They have a love for bowling.
The bigger guy is very aggressive and rude, especially to the smaller one.
The smaller one has a knack for stating the obvious, or just being a bit spacey.
Remember what these two guys looked like.

Looking at Gambit #3:
note the dialogue.
these two characters:
a. one of them whose prized possesions is a bowling ball
b.they end up in a bowling alley
Their striking resemblence to walter and donny.

coincidence, I think not.
Does anybody else agree?

heretic
11-12-2004, 10:40 AM
As for Nanny and Orphan Maker... uh, damned if I remember. Sorry.
:confused: The dropped off an LMD to fool the team and tried to regress her to infancy and raise her (she broke loose around puberty by dint of sheer stubbournness).

HTG (who would have found it interesting to keep her trapped at 12-sai)

estee
11-12-2004, 11:11 AM
In the flashback from Uncanny X-Men #267, Nanny placed Storm in a machine which not only caused Storm to de-age, but it also made Ororo an amnesiac. Nanny then made a copy of Storm's body & placed a smaller version of Nanny's ship. Havok, still fighting the influence of Nanny's drugs, confused, & with Nanny's goading, she influenced Havok to destroy the mock ship with the Storm mannaquin. Havok & the other X-Men had believed he had murdered Storm.

Ororo escaped Nanny & eventually met Gambit. The Shadow King sought to subvert Ororo; however, Gambit & Storm defeated both the Shadow King & Nanny. Storm eventually regained her memories after Gambit & she defeated Nanny. [Uncanny X-Men #253-255, 264-267]

Wow does that sound like a Chris Claremont script or what?

What makes it really funny is I have that run, but I can't remember any of that.

Grendel0606
11-13-2004, 02:21 AM
OK some of you may think these are stupid BUt I am missing some things in my x collection so here goes...

Ok when Storm got blasted by Gyrich with forges gun and lost her powers, how did Storm get her powers back?

When storm was "Killed" when Havok blasted Nanny, and orphan makers ship down, how did storm get into/Or transformed into the body of a child?

Just curious....
Doc, if you have any more questions about Storm, just go here:

http://www.uncannyxmen.net/db/spotlight/showquestion.asp?faq=10&fldAuto=76

roguestorm
11-13-2004, 11:17 PM
what on earh possesed katherine pryde to call herself "spirte" or "ariel"? what at all does this have to do with her powers?!?

Anon_me
11-13-2004, 11:22 PM
Maybe she liked The Tempest :p Ariel was an air spirit in that play and when Kitty uses her powers, she's kind of "airy", I don't know...plus it plays off Caliban so well...:p

twilight
11-13-2004, 11:35 PM
Sprite,to me always reminded me of something mythical,etheral and out of this world.Something ghostly you could'nt touch or understand.

Ariel......errrrr she was a little mermaid fan?


my god is that a bad codename :(

Rob H
11-13-2004, 11:46 PM
Well a "sprite" by definition is a specter or ghost so that makes sense.

Rachel Grey
11-14-2004, 12:38 AM
Just so long as no one jokes about opening a can of her :p

Rob H
11-14-2004, 01:20 AM
ba-boom tish! :p

roguestorm
11-14-2004, 11:52 AM
i get sprite...still a bad codename. but ariel is completely stupid.

The Fury
11-14-2004, 11:58 AM
i get sprite...still a bad codename. but ariel is completely stupid.
OK this definition from www.dictionary.com might explain 'Ariel':

Ariel

...... in later folklore, a light and graceful spirit of the air.

That kind of makes sense but it's still a stupid name.

The Lucky One
11-15-2004, 07:48 AM
Anon_me is correct- Kitty took the name "Ariel" from the character in "The Tempest." While she has horrible fashion sense, she at least has good taste in literature.

-D

mechngnr
11-15-2004, 08:49 AM
Has the Juggernaut's depowering been explained? I know he is suppossedly cut off from Cytorrak but is it temporary or permanent? Also is he getting weaker or has it leveled off. Just wondering if this was ever touched on again. Heck can he even still make a force field? :confused:

mattbib
11-15-2004, 09:22 AM
Has the Juggernaut's depowering been explained? I know he is suppossedly cut off from Cytorrak but is it temporary or permanent? Also is he getting weaker or has it leveled off. Just wondering if this was ever touched on again. Heck can he even still make a force field? :confused:It really hasn't been officially fully explained. And it seems to have leveled off.

nubly
11-15-2004, 02:43 PM
been meaning to ask this question. actually i cant remember if i asked :P

is the masque who appeared in x-treme x-men the same one as the one that died in x-force? if so, is her real sex a female or male? and how did she survive? cable beheaded him and left his head on a spike in the morlock tunnels

mattbib
11-15-2004, 03:00 PM
been meaning to ask this question. actually i cant remember if i asked :P

is the masque who appeared in x-treme x-men the same one as the one that died in x-force? if so, is her real sex a female or male? and how did she survive? cable beheaded him and left his head on a spike in the morlock tunnelsYes, it's the same character. His/her real sex hasn't really been revealed, but I guess it can be assumed that given his/her powers that his real sex is whatever he/she currently wants it to be. It wasn't revealed how he/she survived. But if Masque's powers extend that deep that (s)he can alter his/her sex then maybe they somehow allowed him/her to survive Cable's killing him/her.

fishtaco
11-15-2004, 03:10 PM
Masque is, IMO, one of the most annoying characters in the entire cartoon industry. Bringing him back should not of happened, he should have stayed dead. But I feel that Callisto should have killed him with her knives at the end of the Arena arc for what Masque did to her arms.

Dizzy D
11-15-2004, 03:59 PM
Yes, it's the same character. His/her real sex hasn't really been revealed, but I guess it can be assumed that given his/her powers that his real sex is whatever he/she currently wants it to be. It wasn't revealed how he/she survived. But if Masque's powers extend that deep that (s)he can alter his/her sex then maybe they somehow allowed him/her to survive Cable's killing him/her.

He/she was beheaded... it would be stretching things pretty far to think he/she could survive that...

Other theory: Masque simply created a duplicate of him/herself and that was the one that Shatterstar killed. (No strange new applications of powers needed: Masque can change somebody into his duplicate with ease and we never saw the Masque that was killed use any mutant powers in that story.)

mattbib
11-15-2004, 07:55 PM
Other theory: Masque simply created a duplicate of him/herself and that was the one that Shatterstar killed. (No strange new applications of powers needed: Masque can change somebody into his duplicate with ease and we never saw the Masque that was killed use any mutant powers in that story.)
Works for me! :)

atoningunifex
11-15-2004, 08:20 PM
Anon_me is correct- Kitty took the name "Ariel" from the character in "The Tempest." While she has horrible fashion sense, she at least has good taste in literature.

-D

I might be wrong here...but didn't Chuck want her to use Ariel as a codename but she rejected it to be called Sprite? I seem to remember that from after her first Danger Room session.

pood
11-15-2004, 08:25 PM
I stopped reading comics in 98. Did they ever find out who killed the X-men? Reply for any alternate future timeline. Hope they all die.

Cameron Hodge is Zell Miller.

Brian Cronin
11-15-2004, 08:28 PM
I stopped reading comics in 98. Did they ever find out who killed the X-men? Reply for any alternate future timeline. Hope they all die.

Cameron Hodge is Zell Miller.

Xavier went crazy, and killed them.

But he was mistaken, and they actually survived.

Wait, you said 98?

That was AFTER Onslaught.

So what are you asking, then?

-Brian

Grendel0606
11-16-2004, 09:09 AM
Yes, it's the same character. His/her real sex hasn't really been revealed, but I guess it can be assumed that given his/her powers that his real sex is whatever he/she currently wants it to be. It wasn't revealed how he/she survived. But if Masque's powers extend that deep that (s)he can alter his/her sex then maybe they somehow allowed him/her to survive Cable's killing him/her.
Define "revealed". We never saw him naked - no - thank heaven for small favors - but in the past egh was always refered to as a "he". The gender change was nothing short of annoying. Yes, we know Claremont preferes to write women, but a sex change to accomodate that seems a bit too much.

pennywisdom
11-21-2004, 04:45 PM
Another question (thank God there's a separate thread for this :) ):

What artist is responsible for THIS picture:

http://www.fantastictoys.com.br/x-men.jpg

I think it's kind of cool, if grotesquely cartoonish.

atoningunifex
11-21-2004, 04:52 PM
Well, the little signature bit seems to say Sam Liu.

pennywisdom
11-21-2004, 04:54 PM
Well, the little signature bit seems to say Sam Liu.
I couldn't quite make it out. It's kind of cramped up and small.

What titles has Sam Liu worked on?

nubly
11-22-2004, 02:09 PM
i was catching up on some old issues i havent read this past weekend and one of them was untold tales of spider-man #-1. in it, wolverine is shown as an agent for SHIELD. has this every been brought up anywhere else? i wouldnt call myself and extreme fan of wolverine but i like to read about his past

mattbib
11-22-2004, 02:14 PM
i was catching up on some old issues i havent read this past weekend and one of them was untold tales of spider-man #-1. in it, wolverine is shown as an agent for SHIELD. has this every been brought up anywhere else? i wouldnt call myself and extreme fan of wolverine but i like to read about his pastI knew he was a C.I.A. agent, but I never knew he was an official Agent of S.H.I.E.L.D. I think that might be a mistake.

nubly
11-22-2004, 02:30 PM
i dont think they specified he is a SHIELD agent. i just assumed he is SHIELD in that story because he was called 'agent 10' and the story revolved around two SHIELD agents. i forgot that he was also a CIA agent

Anon_me
11-22-2004, 10:38 PM
I'm curious...I know Josh has wings and a healing factor, but is his voice part of his powers too? If so, what does it do?

Btw, in Uncanny 444 (I think), where that newscopter was flying over the school, was the girl flying with Josh his sister? I seem to recall him having one named Melody. Thanks.

The Lucky One
11-23-2004, 07:23 AM
Btw, in Uncanny 444 (I think), where that newscopter was flying over the school, was the girl flying with Josh his sister? I seem to recall him having one named Melody. Thanks.

Josh has about 8,000 sisters... every time we see the Guthrie clan, they've gained members. There's Jolene, Paige, Melody, and at least one or two others. As for Josh, can't help you. Back in the original story (New Mutants #42), it was implied that his amazing singing voice might possibly be a mutant power, but then again might just be natural talent. There's not enough money to make me read She Lies With Angels, though, so can't help you out there... sorry. That was indeed his sister flying with him in UXM #444, though.

-D

The Fury
11-23-2004, 08:39 AM
I'm curious...I know Josh has wings and a healing factor, but is his voice part of his powers too? If so, what does it do?

Btw, in Uncanny 444 (I think), where that newscopter was flying over the school, was the girl flying with Josh his sister? I seem to recall him having one named Melody. Thanks.
Icarus powers does include a wonderous singing voice. But that's all it really does, make him sound like an angel.

With all the Guthries around, it might be fun for Marvel to start a book on them. :D

mattbib
11-23-2004, 09:08 AM
Icarus powers does include a wonderous singing voice. But that's all it really does, make him sound like an angel.Ehhhh...remember, isn't that what his mother and brother told him? I highly doubt his singing voice is a mutation but, as Drew said, natural ability.

The Fury
11-23-2004, 09:23 AM
Ehhhh...remember, isn't that what his mother and brother told him? I highly doubt his singing voice is a mutation but, as Drew said, natural ability.
OK, I may be wrong then.

I could have sworn i remember something about him being able to sing like there was a group of people or something. Never mind.

The Fury
11-24-2004, 01:16 PM
Alright, I was re-reading Claremont's first issue of his new run (uncanny #444, I think), anyway in it appeared Sunspot walking with that Whedon woman by the swimming pool. So he was at the school at one point.

The question would be where is he now? Is he in X-Force? Is he going to be a teacher (Portugese)?

Any details would be nice.

Ryan K
11-24-2004, 01:18 PM
Alright, I was re-reading Claremont's first issue of his new run (uncanny #444, I think), anyway in it appeared Sunspot walking with that Whedon woman by the swimming pool. So he was at the school at one point.

The question would be where is he now? Is he in X-Force? Is he going to be a teacher (Portugese)?

Any details would be nice.

He's in X-Force.

That's about it. He's just there. I haven't read issue 4 yet, but in the first three issues, he's just there. I don't even remember him even saying anything up to that point. :rolleyes:

The Fury
11-24-2004, 01:35 PM
He's in X-Force.

That's about it. He's just there. I haven't read issue 4 yet, but in the first three issues, he's just there. I don't even remember him even saying anything up to that point. :rolleyes:
What a great use of a character. :rolleyes:

He was in X-Men: The End, I know but he wasn't with X-Force then.

Crimson
11-24-2004, 01:45 PM
OK, I may be wrong then.

I could have sworn i remember something about him being able to sing like there was a group of people or something. Never mind.

No you are right... his voice is part of his mutation and makes him sound like several people all singing at once.

mattbib
11-24-2004, 01:46 PM
No you are right... his voice is part of his mutation and makes him sound like several people all singing at once.
Where was this said and by whom? :)

Crimson
11-24-2004, 01:53 PM
Where was this said and by whom? :)

It was in the arc, She Lies With Angels

Liam MacG
11-24-2004, 02:59 PM
What exactly does the term 'Age of Apocalypse' encompass?

DDM
11-24-2004, 03:24 PM
What exactly does the term 'Age of Apocalypse' encompass?

The Age of Apocalypse is an alternate reality where Apocalypse conquered the United States & most of the world. Legion accidently killed his father, Charles Xavier, in the past; this created the Age of Apocalypse. All of the X-titles were revamped for this time. Also, there's a few bookend comics to complete the Age of Apocalypse.

Crimson
11-24-2004, 03:30 PM
What exactly does the term 'Age of Apocalypse' encompass?

Xavier's son travelled back in time and killed him... cause of this Apocalypse took over most of the wolrd. For about 4 months all the X-Men comics were replacced with comics all branded with "Age of Apocalypse". In the end the right time was restored

Liam MacG
11-25-2004, 02:52 PM
Oh, ok. Thanks.

I was under the impression it was a name given to the entire time Apocalypse featured in the X-books as the latest threat. :rolleyes:

venuscameback
11-26-2004, 06:22 AM
Where was this said and by whom? :)
Fury's right, I read this issue just last night.

In the New Mutants issue (#42) where Cannonball goes back home, Josh is jealous of Sam because he got the lousy end of the stick regarding mutant powers.

Sam can blast, but Josh can sing. Sam hears him sing & it sounds like a one-man choir.

Josh says "Mom figures it's my special gift. Like your flyin'

and then "What about the little ones, Sam? What powers will they get?"

showing that Josh is convinced that his unbelievable vocal talents are a mutation rather than a natural but incredible human ability

and if Josh having this mutant power meant G4 could go dumb tomorrow and not release a record, i'd be a very happy man. 'cause who needs 4 semi-decent opera singers doing bad versions of pop tunes a la Flying Pickets when Josh can do all the voices at one go?

DLW

The Fury
11-26-2004, 06:39 AM
OK, I have a few questions about Chamber's appearences in the Weapon X book. I didn't even realise he was in it until he left.

But:
1)How did he get that chest plate thing and why? (I think it looks a bit weird)

2) Where is he since his appearence in Weapon X? or more precisely what happened to him in it?

venuscameback
11-26-2004, 09:31 AM
OK, I have a few questions about Chamber's appearences in the Weapon X book. I didn't even realise he was in it until he left.

But:
1)How did he get that chest plate thing and why? (I think it looks a bit weird)

2) Where is he since his appearence in Weapon X? or more precisely what happened to him in it?

Chamber went undercover to infiltrate John Sublime's programme of giving humans mutant powers/limbs. He pretended to have become disenchanted with the X-Men.

They used their surgery and tech to replace the parts of his body - chest, mouth etc - with artificial constructs.

What happened to him after that mission, I have no idea. I think he went back to the mansion, popped to the bathroom and just never came back. He's the Tracy Barlow of the X-Men!

which sucks, 'cause he's a great character.

DLW

mattbib
11-26-2004, 11:32 AM
showing that Josh is convinced that his unbelievable vocal talents are a mutation rather than a natural but incredible human abilityAm I the only one who ever read that issue and presumed that it was saying that his singing WASN'T a mutation, just his special talent, and that his mom's comments were to show that he was still just as special to her?

If Austen outright stated that the singing is a mutation I'm just going to ignore it. :)

mattbib
11-26-2004, 11:34 AM
What happened to him after that mission, I have no idea. I think he went back to the mansion, popped to the bathroom and just never came back. He's the Tracy Barlow of the X-Men!He was going to free all of the telepaths in captivity in Neverland but Neverland and its occupants, including Chamber, just disappeared without a trace.

The Fury
11-26-2004, 12:47 PM
He was going to free all of the telepaths in captivity in Neverland but Neverland and its occupants, including Chamber, just disappeared without a trace.
Do you mean that the story moved on and left it as a dangling plot or that the place actually disappeared from where it was?

mattbib
11-26-2004, 01:13 PM
Do you mean that the story moved on and left it as a dangling plot or that the place actually disappeared from where it was?
Both. In #23 when Agent X arrived at the Weapon X compound and Wolverine arrived at Neverland they found both were deserted.

The Fury
11-26-2004, 01:17 PM
Both. In #23 when Agent X arrived at the Weapon X compound and Wolverine arrived at Neverland they found both were deserted.
I take it the story then moved away from Neverland and the book got canceled before they could finish it then.


Thanks Matt and Venus.

mattbib
11-26-2004, 01:23 PM
I take it the story then moved away from Neverland and the book got canceled before they could finish it then.Yeah, it moved more into Sublime and Sabretooth related stories.

Evan Grubbs
11-26-2004, 01:26 PM
OK, I may be wrong then.

I could have sworn i remember something about him being able to sing like there was a group of people or something. Never mind.

It's called Tuvan Throat Singing.

It might be a mutation, but it can be done in real life.

It's really hard, and takes many years of practice.

The end.

mattbib
11-26-2004, 01:39 PM
It's called Tuvan Throat Singing.

It might be a mutation, but it can be done in real life.

It's really hard, and takes many years of practice.Interesting. Maybe Joshua is just more naturally adept for such singing. That might make it one of his mutations (in the same way that someone might be born with a third nipple) but not in the Homo Superior definition.

handOFfate
11-29-2004, 11:03 PM
Whatever happened to...

Chamber
Prosh aka Ship, Professor
Stacy X
Banshee
Blob

Thanks!

Sheldon
11-29-2004, 11:08 PM
Check the FAQ
Or this handy questions thread
http://forums.comicbookresources.com/showthread.php?p=666272#post666272
Where your question will probably be merged with....

But I'll answer a few

Stacy X was all sad that Warren liked Husk more than her and walked off and hasn't been seen since.....

Banshee is still recovering from having his throat cut by Not-Mystique (a mystique impostor)

X-Men Forever
11-29-2004, 11:11 PM
Whatever happened to...

Chamber
Prosh aka Ship, Professor
Stacy X
Banshee
Blob

Thanks!

I understand why no writer is using Ship, Stacy X, and Chamber, they are pure crap(come on you know it's true ;) ). But, I can't believe that Banshee is not on an X-Men roster. And Blob is a great classic villian.

cosmicspidey
11-29-2004, 11:31 PM
Prosh was in X-Men Forever (the mini, not the user), at least I think so.

Sabre
11-30-2004, 03:50 AM
Blob was last seen being kicked around by the Weapon X people. They beat up and captured him and Avalanche for info on Sabretooth, and then just left them tied up once they got tired of it. The duo obviously escaped, because Avalanche has been around since then, but we haven't seen Blob since. I'm kind of surprised he hasn't been hanging out with his buddy.

GoGo Yubari
11-30-2004, 03:54 AM
I understand why no writer is using Ship, Stacy X, and Chamber, they are pure crap(come on you know it's true ;) ). But, I can't believe that Banshee is not on an X-Men roster. And Blob is a great classic villian.

*Smack.* Do not speak ill of Chamber. Chamber is badass.

fishtaco
11-30-2004, 08:09 AM
what? the person who cut Banshee's throat was a mystique imposter?!?!?!??!

and Blob was seen in WeaponX?

mattbib
11-30-2004, 08:32 AM
Chamber was investigating Weapon X/Neverland and he disappeared along with that whole organization.

The Fury
11-30-2004, 09:00 AM
*Smack.* Do not speak ill of Chamber. Chamber is badass.
Yeah, You tell him GoGo.

But as for Chamber there is a Weapon X mini series coming out early next year that might explain where he is. (I hope)

The Fury
11-30-2004, 09:02 AM
I'm kind of surprised he hasn't been hanging out with his buddy.
I was thinking about his, maybe Blob decided not to follow Exodus becuase of some reason (I don't know) but he does know what they were going to do, so he might show up in and X-men book at the mansion looking for his friend.

Gaveedra 6
11-30-2004, 09:10 AM
Banshee is still recovering from having his throat cut by Not-Mystique (a mystique impostor)

whaaa? when was that retconned? that was one of the best, most treacherous Mystique moments ever!!

mattbib
11-30-2004, 09:12 AM
whaaa? when was that retconned? that was one of the best, most treacherous Mystique moments ever!!In the first issues of the Mystique ongoing she denies knowing anything about that or the events of Dream's End.

The Fury
11-30-2004, 09:21 AM
In the first issues of the Mystique ongoing she denies knowing anything about that or the events of Dream's End.
OK, so how does The draco story fit into this, so the Mistique that saw sucked into Abyss in 'Dream's End' and then thrown out of Abyss in' The Draco' is not the same one or what? :confused: :confused:

mattbib
11-30-2004, 09:27 AM
OK, so how does The draco story fit into this, so the Mistique that saw sucked into Abyss in 'Dream's End' and then thrown out of Abyss in' The Draco' is not the same one or what? :confused: :confused: It doesn't. That was my biggest complaint about Austen's "Draco" arc. For the claims in 'Mystique' to be ture the "Mystique" in "Draco" has to be a fake.

UncleBob
11-30-2004, 10:07 AM
When Wolverine gets a piece of himself chopped off (Like in one Ultimate Spidy when he gets the tip of his finger cut off), how does he regenerate the metal on his bones? Wouldn't it just regenerate normal bone?

mattbib
11-30-2004, 10:12 AM
When Wolverine gets a piece of himself chopped off (Like in one Ultimate Spidy when he gets the tip of his finger cut off), how does he regenerate the metal on his bones? Wouldn't it just regenerate normal bone?That's probably an art mistake. There's no way that his adamantium-laced bones would be able to be cut off. So in that issue while he may have lost tissue (the very tip of the finger maybe?) he didn't lose any bone.

But yeah, if somehow Logan did lose or break a bone only bone would grow back. His adamantium-lacing is in no way organic.

UncleBob
11-30-2004, 10:16 AM
Not an art mistake, Wolvie and Peter get their bodies switched by Jean Grey. Peter inside Wolverine's body is talking on the phone with Peter who's really Wolverine (ok, following this?) Schnickt! His claws come out and he cuts off his own finger.

Been bugging me ever since I saw that.

I did like that they named one of the issues "Jumping the Shark" though.

jeangreydp
11-30-2004, 10:19 AM
Ok here's a question for you all!

Does anyone know about Domino's past? I'm really curious about this since I'm featuring her in a fic I'm writing. And I'm talking her childhood here, before she ever met Cable.

As far as I know she got dumped on a church doorstep...?

Anyhow, if you guys know more than that, let me in on it!

Thanks in advance!

The Fury
11-30-2004, 10:31 AM
But yeah, if somehow Logan did lose or break a bone only bone would grow back. His adamantium-lacing is in no way organic.
I always thought that if Wolverine was to loose a bone it would not grow back, like normal humans, and also seen in his AoA form. The skin tissue would heal far faster than any bone could grown back and would seal the wound. I know his healing factor is above ours but the same rules should apply but just amazingly better.

mattbib
11-30-2004, 10:31 AM
Ok here's a question for you all!

Does anyone know about Domino's past?It's not been fully revealed. Much of it can be found here (http://www.mutanthigh.com/index2.html).

mattbib
11-30-2004, 10:32 AM
I always thought that if Wolverine was to loose a bone it would not grow back, like normal humans, and also seen in his AoA form.But he regrew his bone claws after they were broken off, didn't he?

jeangreydp
11-30-2004, 10:36 AM
It's not been fully revealed. Much of it can be found here (http://www.mutanthigh.com/index2.html).


Nice site! Thankya kindly!

Oh and btw Mattbib, I always mean to tell you that you've got the most awesome avatars.

The Fury
11-30-2004, 10:45 AM
But he regrew his bone claws after they were broken off, didn't he?
That's very true, somethings just get too confusing in comics, but surely they were just broken claws with the end still left so they could grow back. Unless in some of the times the broke they were actually riped out.

I don't know. :confused:

The Lucky One
11-30-2004, 10:52 AM
That's very true, somethings just get too confusing in comics, but surely they were just broken claws with the end still left so they could grow back. Unless in some of the times the broke they were actually riped out.

I don't know. :confused:

Well, Kitty was using some old ones as weapons during Revolution a few years back, and they seemed pretty complete... don't know how she got her hands on them.

"Hey Logan, could I... y'know, maybe, if it's not too much trouble... possibly cut off your claws and use them as weapons?"
"WHAT?!?"

-D

atoningunifex
11-30-2004, 11:10 AM
Well, Kitty was using some old ones as weapons during Revolution a few years back, and they seemed pretty complete... don't know how she got her hands on them.

"Hey Logan, could I... y'know, maybe, if it's not too much trouble... possibly cut off your claws and use them as weapons?"
"WHAT?!?"


She mentioned something at the time about having scavenged them when Wolvie lost them. Presumably during the six month gap.

Brian Cronin
11-30-2004, 11:18 AM
By the by, Mystique CLAIMED that it was not her who sliced Banshee's throat.

But who knows if that claim was TRUE.

-Brian

atoningunifex
11-30-2004, 11:21 AM
By the by, Mystique CLAIMED that it was not her who sliced Banshee's throat.

But who knows if that claim was TRUE.


I've always felt that every character in comics sufferes from mutiple personality disorder brough on by too many different writers. So they can always hoenstly claim they didn't do it.

Schellenberg
11-30-2004, 06:11 PM
By the by, Mystique CLAIMED that it was not her who sliced Banshee's throat.

But who knows if that claim was TRUE.

-Brian

Right. Yeah. And she's got a beautiful piece of land for sale in Brooklyn, too. Has a nice bridge on it an' everything.

Tommy
11-30-2004, 06:23 PM
I've always felt that every character in comics sufferes from mutiple personality disorder brough on by too many different writers. So they can always hoenstly claim they didn't do it.

Speaking of MPD how many characters in Marvel have it?

I know Aura but if I remember correctly there are about a hundred other characters who have it in some form or another...

Damn you Marvel and your overuse of tired clichés...

Ryan K
11-30-2004, 06:26 PM
Speaking of MPD how many characters in Marvel have it?

I know Aura but if I remember correctly there are about a hundred other characters who have it in some form or another...


Legion is the first one to come to mind.

Madrox' dupes all have different personalities now. But I don't have any clue how you'd classify that, or if it counts.

nubly
11-30-2004, 07:47 PM
She mentioned something at the time about having scavenged them when Wolvie lost them. Presumably during the six month gap.

i always thought she got them when cyber broke wolverine's claws in muir island, shortly after wolverine #75.

Sabre
12-01-2004, 01:43 AM
By the by, Mystique CLAIMED that it was not her who sliced Banshee's throat.

But who knows if that claim was TRUE.

Exactly. Well, she sort of claimed it. All she said was "Don't believe everything you hear".

She also never specifically denied her actions in Dream's End. She made a vague claim that she might have an impersonator running around, and she told Xavier she wasn't responsible for "that terrorist stuff that happened overseas" -- that could have referred to Dream's End, or the X-Corps stuff, or even something else.

So I think it's premature to say any of that stuff has been definitively retconned.

The Lucky One
12-01-2004, 07:54 AM
Speaking of MPD how many characters in Marvel have it?

I know Aura but if I remember correctly there are about a hundred other characters who have it in some form or another...

Damn you Marvel and your overuse of tired clichés...

Typhoid Mary...

-D

Dizzy D
12-01-2004, 08:08 AM
Old verions of Moon Knight had MPD.

I read only a single issue of Punisher 2099 (crossovers ye know), but it seemed like he had MPD (talking about his civilian identity as a completely different person.)

Nightcrawler
12-04-2004, 04:45 PM
http://www.milehighcomics.com/firstlook/120804/nightc3cvr.html

Who was Kurt fighting with?

Sheldon
12-04-2004, 04:58 PM
For general questions you should use this thread:
http://forums.comicbookresources.com/showthread.php?p=683946#post683946

Its our question thread....and this will probably be merged with it....

oh and to answer your question its Kitty....she has a little cat on her sleeve.

cosmicspidey
12-04-2004, 06:38 PM
For general questions you should use this thread:
http://forums.comicbookresources.com/showthread.php?p=683946#post683946

Its our question thread....and this will probably be merged with it....

oh and to answer your question its Kitty....she has a little cat on her sleeve.

Plus Storm calls her Kitty on page 4...

baldur74
12-05-2004, 01:05 AM
Anyone remember the name of the base that X-Factor used at the end of that run? I remember it was a government installation that was on a waterfall but I can't remember the name. It's driving me crazy and I can't find it on Yahoo.

Sabre
12-05-2004, 01:41 AM
Fall's Edge..?

baldur74
12-05-2004, 08:55 AM
Yep thats it. Thanks

fishtaco
12-05-2004, 02:15 PM
what number was the last isssue of X-Factor?

DDM
12-05-2004, 02:53 PM
what number was the last isssue of X-Factor?

X-Factor #149

Tommy
12-05-2004, 02:54 PM
X-Factor #149

They didn't make an X-Factor 150 just for the hell of it?

roguestorm
12-05-2004, 04:40 PM
well? i have yet to see any of the x=books explain those in detail.

DDM
12-05-2004, 04:47 PM
Nannites are misco-robots; they are essentially robots the size of an atom. Nannite technology is a real thing & Claremont has been paying attention to real world events.

Tommy
12-05-2004, 04:53 PM
Not to be confused with the Mannites. I still have no idea what that was about.

DDM
12-05-2004, 05:14 PM
WHY DO YOU CONSISTENTLY HAVE PORNOGRAPHIC PICTURES OF MALES AS AN AVATAR?!? i come to this forum to have fun and improve my reading skills not get blind altogether! if i had an avatar of a topless woman i would just as easily had it removed.

What does this have to with nannites?

Doom Hammer
12-05-2004, 05:38 PM
What does this have to with nannites?

DDM, its a trap! Roguestorm drew you out to argue about your nips! RUN!

Dizzy D
12-05-2004, 06:27 PM
They didn't make an X-Factor 150 just for the hell of it?

Nope, they just relaunched into Mutant X #1. Which was really too sad, because they had a team that I thought had a lot of potential. (Havok, Jamie, Polaris with that Fixx-girl as an unknown quantity to do something more with.)

Fixx
12-05-2004, 07:10 PM
WHY DO YOU CONSISTENTLY HAVE PORNOGRAPHIC PICTURES OF MALES AS AN AVATAR?!? i come to this forum to have fun and improve my reading skills not get blind altogether! if i had an avatar of a topless woman i would just as easily had it removed.


he always has the best avatars
I love them!! you can never have enough topless men with nice chests if you ask me!!

jeangreydp
12-05-2004, 07:31 PM
DDM, its a trap! Roguestorm drew you out to argue about your nips! RUN!

Best quote I've ever seen on a message board in my life.

Atom_basher
12-05-2004, 07:46 PM
nannites are microscopic robots, they are real like people said earlier, in reguards to xmen, they travel through the bloodstream and neutralize powers by messing with the x gene (at least thats what i think)

Michael P
12-05-2004, 07:49 PM
nannites are microscopic robots, they are real like people said earlier, in reguards to xmen, they travel through the bloodstream and neutralize powers by messing with the x gene (at least thats what i think)
Well, they're robots, so they do whatever they're programmed to. In general, malignant nanites are programmed to wreak general havoc on the body's systems.

Tommy
12-05-2004, 08:10 PM
I still don't get what the Mannites were about.

Catlin
12-05-2004, 08:10 PM
I have been away from X-Men for a number of years now. Can anyone help me out?

1) When did he first start wearing the costume with Cyke's visor around his neck?

2) I stopped collectiong at about issue 300 (yeah, I have a LOT of back issues to buy!) When did Cable join the team?

3) When did Cable realize that Jean and Scott were his folks, or the other way around. I forgot who knew and who didn't ;)

Dizzy D
12-05-2004, 08:30 PM
1) When did he first start wearing the costume with Cyke's visor around his neck?

- After the Twelve storyline. Cyclops had sacrificed himself to stop Apocalypse (he made Apocalypse posses him rather than Nate Grey) and Cable joined the X-men and wore the visor to honor his memory. When he and Jean freed Cyclops of Apocalypse' possession, Cable handed the visor back and left the X-men.

2) I stopped collectiong at about issue 300 (yeah, I have a LOT of back issues to buy!) When did Cable join the team?

I'm terrible with numbers, but the above answers this storywise.

3) When did Cable realize that Jean and Scott were his folks, or the other way around. I forgot who knew and who didn't ;)

Somewhere after X-cutioner's song, Cable returned and Cyclops had figured out by then that Stryfe was his son. A long story short, Cable's son Tyler managed to get the truth from an Askani-sister and Cable and Cyclops both found out at the same time that Cable was his real son.
If this question is about when Cable found that Cyclops and Jean raised him in the future, it was during Legion's Quest. With the world to end, Cyclops and Jean told him the truth and Cable admitted that he had suspected as much.

Fixx
12-05-2004, 08:37 PM
Nope, they just relaunched into Mutant X #1. Which was really too sad, because they had a team that I thought had a lot of potential. (Havok, Jamie, Polaris with that Fixx-girl as an unknown quantity to do something more with.)

yeah what ever happened to her...
I kinda liked Fixx

Anon_me
12-05-2004, 09:02 PM
Was reading some old issues of X-Force and had some questions about Risque. Who was she? All I ever knew about her was she was hired to bring Jimmy in and then she fell for him? What was her background? history? and she refered to Sinister as one of "the legendary ones" which prompted me to think she was more that she seemed. And she's listed as dead, how did she die? Thank yew

Dizzy D
12-05-2004, 09:04 PM
yeah what ever happened to her...
I kinda liked Fixx


I haven't read the Bishop-series that killed of Shard, so they may have appeared in that. But AFAIK Fixx and Archer both never appeared again.

mattbib
12-05-2004, 09:24 PM
Was reading some old issues of X-Force and had some questions about Risque. Who was she? All I ever knew about her was she was hired to bring Jimmy in and then she fell for him? What was her background? history? and she refered to Sinister as one of "the legendary ones" which prompted me to think she was more that she seemed. And she's listed as dead, how did she die? Thank yew
from www.uncannyxmen.net
An off-again on-again ally of X-Force who could implode things by thought, [X-Force #65, #81, #100] Risque also had a relationship with James Proudstar. The elusive mutant was killed however in one of X-Corporation Hong Kong‘s assignments when she thought she had uncovered information relating to John Sublime. [New X-Men Annual 2001] This branch of X-Corp seems now to be defunct, as Domino has joined Cable‘s Underground.

Kirayoshi
12-05-2004, 11:55 PM
I always thought that if Wolverine was to loose a bone it would not grow back, like normal humans, and also seen in his AoA form. The skin tissue would heal far faster than any bone could grown back and would seal the wound. I know his healing factor is above ours but the same rules should apply but just amazingly better. I suspect that when he lost his hand, the stump was instantly cauterized, perhaps an after-effect of Cyke's eye-blast(wasn't that how he lost his hand?). On the other hand, consider this scene from AXM #6; Peter Fastball-Specials Logan up to Ord's ship, Logan breaks through the windshield and jams his fist into Ord's mouth. "You bite, I'll heal," he says. "I pop, you won't. Land." So he obviously believes that his hand will regenerate if it were to be severed. Of course that depends on whether or not Ord could bite through Adamantium.

The Lucky One
12-06-2004, 07:55 AM
They didn't make an X-Factor 150 just for the hell of it?

Well, the original plan was for Mutant X to run for a year, then return Havok to the MU proper in X-Factor #150. But then Mutant X proved far more popular than X-Factor had been (and it WAS good in the first year), so they just kept it going.

-D

The Fury
12-06-2004, 08:45 AM
So he obviously believes that his hand will regenerate if it were to be severed. Of course that depends on whether or not Ord could bite through Adamantium.
Well, as he knows that nothing can destroy or break adamantium then I would say he would expect if Ord was to bite down it would only get to the metal skeleton, he can heal from that. Ord is no where near strong enough to bite though adamantium.

Crimson
12-06-2004, 08:49 AM
What does the term Flatscan mean? You know what they call mutants etc. They use it alot in AOA and even as recently as Uncanny X-Men 450 but I've never stopped to think what it means.

mattbib
12-06-2004, 08:54 AM
What does the term Flatscan mean? You know what they call mutants etc. They use it alot in AOA and even as recently as Uncanny X-Men 450 but I've never stopped to think what it means.Flatscan is actually a term that mutants use for humans. It means human.

atoningunifex
12-06-2004, 09:03 AM
What does the term Flatscan mean? You know what they call mutants etc. They use it alot in AOA and even as recently as Uncanny X-Men 450 but I've never stopped to think what it means.

You know how in hospital shows when the patient dies and the heart monitor line goes to being a solid,s triaght line? That's flatlining. It means there's no movement in the ehart, no spiking on the monitor.

A flatscan is a human- a person with no interesting spikes (mutant abilities). Mutants use it as a derogatoiry term- describing humans as boring, dead, end of the line beings with nothing of interest. A dead end.

The Lucky One
12-06-2004, 09:15 AM
Just chiming in, I believe -- and I could be wrong here -- that the term flatscan was first used back during the Fatal Attractions crossover, circa X-Factor #92. If not, blame my faulty memory.

-D

mattbib
12-06-2004, 09:17 AM
Just chiming in, I believe -- and I could be wrong here -- that the term flatscan was first used back during the Fatal Attractions crossover, circa X-Factor #92. If not, blame my faulty memory.I was thinking it came around the same time as "genejoke" back during the first Genosha storyline a few years earlier in Uncanny.

Crimson
12-06-2004, 09:17 AM
Thanks... I took it Sage was in the X-Mansions libary but I guess not.

Faust451
12-06-2004, 12:54 PM
Guys, Guys, Guys...

The term flatscan was first used before any of those issues.
:p
It was first used back in X-Men #1. How could anyone not remember that moment?
Back during the ending of one of the greatest creator team ups ever in Xhistory (Claremont and Lee baby!)
Check it out!
Now i gotta a question(s).
1. What every happened to Selene after she was captured by Fitzroy in Uncanny 301?

2. When did Peirce come back after his 'death' back in Uncanny 281?

3. Back when Havok was leading the Brotherhood, who did it consist of beside Havok, Fatale, and Dark Beast?

mattbib
12-06-2004, 12:57 PM
Guys, Guys, Guys...

The term flatscan was first used before any of those issues.
:p
It was first used back in X-Men #1. How could anyone not remember that moment?
Back during the ending of one of the greatest creator team ups ever in Xhistory (Claremont and Lee baby!)The first Genosha storyline (Uncanny #235-238) came out long before X-Men #1.

Assuming I'm right and that the term was actually used in that story, of course.

DDM
12-06-2004, 12:58 PM
1. What every happened to Selene after she was captured by Fitzroy in Uncanny 301?

Selene tricked Amanda Sefton in freeing her from her containment chamber in Excalibur Annual #3.

mattbib
12-06-2004, 01:23 PM
2. When did Peirce come back after his 'death' back in Uncanny 281?Pierce's next chronological appearance was in Domino (1st series) #2. His survival of Uncanny #281 was explained in Domino #3.

http://image.milehighcomics.com/istore/images/large/26238530890.2.gif (http://milehighcomics.com/cgi-bin/backissue.cgi?action=fullsize&issue=26238530890%202)http://image.milehighcomics.com/istore/images/large/26238530890.3.gif (http://milehighcomics.com/cgi-bin/backissue.cgi?action=fullsize&issue=26238530890%203)

mattbib
12-06-2004, 01:25 PM
3. Back when Havok was leading the Brotherhood, who did it consist of beside Havok, Fatale, and Dark Beast?from www.uncannyxmen.net (http://www.uncannyxmen.net/)
Leader : Dark Beast > Havok
Membership : Fatale, Dark Beast, Havok, Ever, X-Man
Associates : Random, Aurora

You can find out more information on this Brotherhood here (http://www.uncannyxmen.net/db/pov/showquestion.asp?faq=5&fldAuto=33).

The Lucky One
12-06-2004, 02:12 PM
Selene tricked Amanda Sefton in freeing her from her containment chamber in Excalibur Annual #3.

Wait, there were three? Crap, why did I think there were only two? And here I thought I'd be able to finish my collection by tracking down Weird War III...

*swears*

-D

Brian Cronin
12-06-2004, 02:13 PM
The Domino mini...that was the one that was surprsingly good, right?

-Brian

mattbib
12-06-2004, 02:15 PM
Wait, there were three? Crap, why did I think there were only two? And here I thought I'd be able to finish my collection by tracking down Weird War III...

*swears*It took me soooooooooo long to find a copy of Weird War III...

Tommy
12-06-2004, 02:16 PM
Whatever did happen to Amanda Sefton?

And can some one explain the point of the Mannites?

The Lucky One
12-06-2004, 02:16 PM
It took me soooooooooo long to find a copy of Weird War III...

Yeah, why's it so scarce, anyway? Mile High doesn't have any, but they have theoretical copies listed for like 40 bones... what's up with that? Is it printed on solid gold or something?

-D

The Lucky One
12-06-2004, 02:18 PM
Whatever did happen to Amanda Sefton?

She took over Limbo in the rather bad (and this is from a huge Claremont fan, mind you) X-Men: Black Sun miniseries. She took on the name "Magik," became the new guardian of Limbo, and I think had a miniseries. I'm pretty (but not entirely) sure she hasn't been seen since.

-D

Brian Cronin
12-06-2004, 02:22 PM
Well, the reason it is so expensive is BECAUSE we don't remember it.

Therefore, the print run must have been almost non-existent.

-Brian

Ryan K
12-06-2004, 02:31 PM
She took over Limbo in the rather bad (and this is from a huge Claremont fan, mind you) X-Men: Black Sun miniseries. She took on the name "Magik," became the new guardian of Limbo, and I think had a miniseries. I'm pretty (but not entirely) sure she hasn't been seen since.

-D

She was seen in Limbo in Nightcrawler #2 last month. :)

SuperSaiyaMan12
12-06-2004, 03:48 PM
Does anyone know what Rogue's real name is?

Atom_basher
12-06-2004, 04:06 PM
no, but in the movie they used marie, although i dont think thats the real comic name, she did use the alias annma raven though

DDM
12-06-2004, 05:32 PM
She's going by the name "Anna Raven" but it's clear this is not Rogue's real name either.

HynerianChef
12-06-2004, 05:39 PM
According to the recent Rogue comic where she actually goes back home and talks with her blood family (or at least the aunt who raised her), her real name is Anna Marie. We still don't know her last name... I suppose it's possible it is indeed Raven, but I at least thought it was an obvious nod from Rogue to her adopted mother Mystique's first name, so likely not.

Faust451
12-06-2004, 06:07 PM
The first Genosha storyline (Uncanny #235-238) came out long before X-Men #1.

Assuming I'm right and that the term was actually used in that story, of course.

Dude...
The term 'genejoke' was first used in the Genosha storyline. That's true.

The term 'flatscan' was first used in X-Men 1 just like I said. Check it out.
:)

Titanium
12-06-2004, 09:04 PM
Rogue's real name is Rogue Darkholme.

mattbib
12-06-2004, 09:06 PM
Rogue's real name is Rogue Darkholme.
Mystique never adopted Rogue; she was her foster mother, so her last name can't be Darkholme. Unless you were joking...in which case it still can't be Darkholme.

Anon_me
12-06-2004, 09:16 PM
from www.uncannyxmen.net
An off-again on-again ally of X-Force who could implode things by thought, [X-Force #65, #81, #100] Risque also had a relationship with James Proudstar. The elusive mutant was killed however in one of X-Corporation Hong Kong‘s assignments when she thought she had uncovered information relating to John Sublime. [New X-Men Annual 2001] This branch of X-Corp seems now to be defunct, as Domino has joined Cable‘s Underground.

Thanks but I was actually looking more for info on her background/history. :)

LoneWolf21
12-06-2004, 09:33 PM
Wait, there were three? Crap, why did I think there were only two? And here I thought I'd be able to finish my collection by tracking down Weird War III...

*swears*

-D

That annual also has a pretty good (to me away) story involving Doug too. Kitty goes throuh some od computer discs (I forget the actual reason) and finds Doug's computer journal. not too bad stuff, iirc.

Thanks but I was actually looking more for info on her background/history. :)

I don't think we ever really got into her backstory, she was sort of the tokwn "smoking hot chick of mystery", although it was nice that she was a fairly not stereotypical hispanic character (her real name was Gloria Munoz) though and I thought her power was pretty interesting. Also, she really did seem to regret having to turn on Jimmy, and did seem to genuinely care for him.

The Lucky One
12-07-2004, 08:15 AM
That annual also has a pretty good (to me away) story involving Doug too. Kitty goes throuh some od computer discs (I forget the actual reason) and finds Doug's computer journal. not too bad stuff, iirc.

That's the one I was thinking of as #2, actually. With Douglock, Britanic (*sigh*), and Psylocke on the cover, right?

So how many actually are there?

-D

Dizzy D
12-07-2004, 08:25 AM
That's the one I was thinking of as #2, actually. With Douglock, Britanic (*sigh*), and Psylocke on the cover, right?

So how many actually are there?

-D

I think there were only 2, but there were a lot of Excalibur one-shots (that one with the Airwalker, Mojo Mayhem, the Possession, the one where they are time displaced with the original X-men... probably something else.)

The only annuals I can remember are the one with Khaos and the one mentioned above.

The Lucky One
12-07-2004, 08:52 AM
Well, there's Excalibur #1-125, plus the -1 issue. Then there's the specials:

The Sword is Drawn
Mojo Mayhem
The Possession
Air Apparent
XX Crossing
Weird War III

And two annuals. Plus the recent mini, and the 4-issue X-Calibre AoA series. And maybe the "True Friends" Kitty/Rachel mini, if you want to get technical about things.

Of which I just need WWIII, the recent mini, X-Calibre, True Friends, and... I think that's it. Sweet!

-D

Dizzy D
12-07-2004, 09:14 AM
Well, there's Excalibur #1-125, plus the -1 issue. Then there's the specials:

The Sword is Drawn
Mojo Mayhem
The Possession
Air Apparent
XX Crossing
Weird War III

And two annuals. Plus the recent mini, and the 4-issue X-Calibre AoA series. And maybe the "True Friends" Kitty/Rachel mini, if you want to get technical about things.

Of which I just need WWIII, the recent mini, X-Calibre, True Friends, and... I think that's it. Sweet!

-D

I have no clue what Weird War III was about. It's possible I have it, but I wouldn't know the name. (Looked it up: Nope, I'm missing that one)

The Technet limited series never came out, did it? I saw sketches for it at the time, but never saw the completed version.

X-calibre was definitely mediocre, but I liked Switchback, maybe they could introduce her in the real MU.

There was also a long Excalibur story with Arcade in Marvel Comics Presents.

I only miss a couple of issues of Excalibur proper (one of the Lightning Force issues and the rest of them during the Lobdell issues when I dropped the title for a bit, at least till Ellis came on.) and that Weird War III.

mattbib
12-07-2004, 11:13 AM
I have them all. :p

Ryan K
12-07-2004, 11:20 AM
I've never even seen a copy of WW III.

I think I'm missing 4 or 6 issues of the regular series. Some of the really late ones. I need True Friends and the mini with the Black Knight as well.

Faust451
12-07-2004, 01:47 PM
What every happened to Shinobi? The last time I ever saw him was in Excalibur when they brought the London branch of the Club into play during the whole Black Air thing.

mattbib
12-07-2004, 02:18 PM
What every happened to Shinobi? The last time I ever saw him was in Excalibur when they brought the London branch of the Club into play during the whole Black Air thing.I think his only appearance since then (Excalibur #96) was in X-Force #62.

Faust451
12-07-2004, 02:29 PM
So is Shinobi dead or what?
:confused:

mattbib
12-07-2004, 02:40 PM
So is Shinobi dead or what?
:confused:Or what. He just hasn't appeared again.

fishtaco
12-07-2004, 05:23 PM
what happened last time we saw him?

roguespirit
12-07-2004, 07:00 PM
dammit roguestorm..I still keep thinking your me. Keep thinking I've had an attack of some sort and I have no memory of posting stuff that you've done. :D

Vector
12-07-2004, 07:04 PM
Nanotechnology research is very active, but we don't have tiny microscopic machines yet. One of the biggest problems with making mechanical components on such a small scale is the current inability to effectively lubricate such small moving parts.

Claremont should use biotech as well, which could lead to some interesting stories.

Sheldon
12-07-2004, 07:33 PM
Nannites are a plot device......

Sanagi
12-07-2004, 07:43 PM
Nanites are small robots that cause thread drift.

Ryan K
12-07-2004, 08:09 PM
Nanites are small robots that cause thread drift.

LOL. Very nice! :D

K'Nort
12-08-2004, 08:34 AM
This one is Ned.

http://www.glitterrock.org/caps14/themrsofteenanite.jpg

Atom_basher
12-09-2004, 12:07 AM
1. what is the crystal palace, im reading dreamers and demons and Rahne is in the palace, and she is young, when she leaves she is her real age, what exactly IS the crystal palace

2. Who is carter ghazyballybingbong (forgot his name) what EXACTLY are his powers, and is it true he is somehow connected to Onslaught, im really confused


3. HOW is cassandra Nova. i dont want to ask WHO she is is, but how in the world does Charlie have a sister who he doesnt know about.


i cant think of the other questions, but as soon as i remember them, i hope you guys will answer em for me

jeangreydp
12-09-2004, 12:12 AM
1. Not sure. I don't think it's really been explained. I'm guessing it's a place Carter has made to hide and manipulate his reality. Here in St. Louis Crystal Palace is a strip club...

2. Don't know about any ONslaught connection, but as far as we know he's a psi. He hooked up Alex & Annie via telepathy and it looks like he's pretty good at distorting reality too.

3. He knows about Cassie. He tried to kill her in the womb (i know, weird) and he effectively killed her body, but not her psyche. She'd been biding her time and improvising w/ spare parts before she finally made her attack on the X-men in New X-men. As for HOW that works, I'm not entirely sure and I don't think Morrison is either...

Hope that's all accurate and helpful ;)

Atom_basher
12-09-2004, 12:17 AM
thanks for the quick answers, and that cassandra nova thing really confuses me, what powers does she have ( i wasnt reading comics then

jeangreydp
12-09-2004, 12:27 AM
Same powers as Chuckie as far as I can tell. Oh and she's got some crazy healing factor...

Tommy
12-09-2004, 12:27 AM
thanks for the quick answers, and that cassandra nova thing really confuses me, what powers does she have ( i wasnt reading comics then

More or less all of them. Psychic, healing, metamorph, phasing...

Atom_basher
12-09-2004, 12:31 AM
why is she so much stronger than her brother?

jeangreydp
12-09-2004, 12:32 AM
More or less all of them. Psychic, healing, metamorph, phasing...

Okay phasing is one, but that was weird when she did that cuz Emma could do it too?? And so did tattoo! She stuck her hand through Scott's head- I've never understood that.

But, Metamorph- when did she do that?

Tommy
12-09-2004, 12:33 AM
But, Metamorph- when did she do that?

When she grew that armor out of her skin.

jeangreydp
12-09-2004, 12:41 AM
why is she so much stronger than her brother?

Well she used Cerebra as a psychic booster, I'm pretty sure she used kick (i'll have to check that though) plus, half the time she was using Charles' body. She switched bodies w/ him and so had access to all his powers.

"She appears educated and intelligent, but I think she is only mimicking human traits. She's living emotional energy. Formless, immense and totally unique. In Cassandra's mind our universe and the womb she became aware in are one and the same thing...only she and Charles are real.

We have no idea how she survived the first battle, but her motives are basic- she has to kill Charles for mastery of the universe as she see it. "
- That's what Jean says about her.

pirulaso
12-09-2004, 06:41 AM
didnt he have a sister? what happened to her?

Nate Grey
12-09-2004, 06:44 AM
Got raped by Sabretooth in Weapon X. I don't think Northstar knows about it (Sabretooth did imply it to him in Austen's run, though). She's not dead, I think she began recovering the following issue in Weapon X, but I'm not sure on her current whereabouts.

pirulaso
12-09-2004, 06:47 AM
.........................wait.....woah what? she got raped? how? doesnt she have super speed or something?

Dizzy D
12-09-2004, 07:42 AM
Raped? I think you read more into that scene than I did. Aurora was facially scarred by Sabretooth, but with plastic surgery they restored her looks.

Somewhere near the end of the series, the Director, though he had hit her earlier, wanted her to save him from Cable&Co who had invaded Weapon X. Aurora pretended to play along, but then dumped Director&Jeffries in the middle of nowhere and took off. Haven't seen her since.

I'm sure someone else will give a more precise, longer version.

Zero Hunter
12-09-2004, 01:48 PM
She was crazy when she appeared in the first X-Factor series towards the end of the run. The Weapon X program tracked her down and made her sane again, but messed with her head to make her work with them. It seems she broke free of their brainwashing, but it was kind of implied that her personality had split into a new personality. It has always kinda bugged me that no writer has ever shown Northstar to be concerned about where the hell his mentaly unstable sister dispapered to all this time. They were always written as him being very protective of her in the Alpha Flight series.

http://jerome.galica.free.fr/marvel/X-Men/alpha%20flight/aurora3.GIF

firestar
12-09-2004, 02:24 PM
Ok so we have Xorn, and now Angel can seemingly heal everyone with a simple Blood transfusion. Not to mention Elixir, an Omega level healer, is now part of the X-Teams line ups. Since Cyclops cannot control his powers due to brain damage that he received as a young boy, why don't they just heal his injuries so that he doesn't have to wear those annoying ruby quartz glasses? Same goes for banshee, and any other injured X-person.

Nocturne
12-09-2004, 02:53 PM
I think that even if they did heal Cyclops he'd still need to use the visor as he wouldn' be able to focus his beams properly. So, IMO, it would be a pointless exercise to heal cyclops. He can use contacts/glasses instead of his visor so it's not like he's stuck with it. Also his visor is part of his character, he'd just seem wrong without it.

The Fury
12-09-2004, 02:57 PM
This is a thought that many people have had, I'm sure. But it is hard to determin whether any of these things can be done.

Elixier is inexperienced and I would not want him fidling around in my brain.

The new Xorn's powers have yet to be really established, and whether he can heal in that manor. The original didn't seem to but that was the fake Magneto, so...I don't know?

Now Angel could, but he's not there at the moment, pretty lame excuse I know.

But one thing to ask is can they heal scars?

Faust451
12-09-2004, 05:24 PM
1. Did Executioner kill Super Saber?

2. Where has Crimson Commando been?

3. What ever happened to Mimic?

Tommy
12-09-2004, 05:40 PM
How many times over the years have Jean and Logan made out? I know of at least three.

Uncanny X-Men #394
NEW X-MEN #117
And then once in the Extinction Agenda...

Dizzy D
12-09-2004, 05:48 PM
>1. Did Executioner kill Super Saber?
No, it was by Aminedi, a member of the Desert Sword, a group of Iraqi super-soldiers. The story ran as a backup in the X-men, New Mutant and X-factor annuals (1990/1991 IIRC)

>2. Where has Crimson Commando been?
In the same story I mentioned before, Crimson Commando was seriously wounded and was turned into a cyborg. I believe either X-men Annual 2 or X-factor 102 was his last appearance. He was still working for the government back then.

>3. What ever happened to Mimic?
Last seen as member of the Brotherhood of Evil Mutants, I believe, during the story where the High Evolutionary erases the powers of all mutants on Earth. (Both Mimic's membership and loss of powers make little sense though, he's not a mutant)

Dizzy D
12-09-2004, 05:50 PM
How many times over the years have Jean and Logan made out? I know of at least three.

Uncanny X-Men #394
NEW X-MEN #117
And then once in the Extinction Agenda...

Also during Inferno.

And probably some other times.

The Fury
12-10-2004, 07:23 AM
>3. What ever happened to Mimic?
Last seen as member of the Brotherhood of Evil Mutants, I believe, during the story where the High Evolutionary erases the powers of all mutants on Earth. (Both Mimic's membership and loss of powers make little sense though, he's not a mutant)
There was that and also, can't really remember if this happened before or after the thing you described above, he was still part of the Brotherhood in the 'X-51' series, the brotherhood were looking for Machine Man's head to get information from it but some stuff happened Mimic was captured by American authorities. And he was imprisoned, since then I have not seen him, so it's very possible he's still in prison.

The Lucky One
12-10-2004, 07:25 AM
>3. What ever happened to Mimic?
Last seen as member of the Brotherhood of Evil Mutants, I believe, during the story where the High Evolutionary erases the powers of all mutants on Earth. (Both Mimic's membership and loss of powers make little sense though, he's not a mutant)

Why does it seem like the only time we talk anymore is to disagree about really minor comic plot points, Diz? :D

Anyway, while his Brotherhood membership is pretty suspect, I didn't have a problem with his powers being erased by the HE's power-eliminating wave. He's not a mutant, but his powers are founded on his body's copying of the genetic templates of mutants, or more specifically the parts that control their powers. Thus, if something were to come along that eliminates those genetic mutations worldwide, it should affect everyone, not just the actual mutants.

What I questioned more was how Rogue's Ms. Marvel powers came back after the wave was reversed. Sure, she'd get her power absorption back, but why would her stolen alien (not mutant) abilities return? I shouldn't complain, since it means Mimic would get the original X-Men's powers back too, but it does seem kinda suspect.

EDIT: in a later issue of X-51, Val Cooper was seen visiting Mimic in federal prison, saying that she thought he wasn't bad, just misguided, and that she could help him out of imprisonment if he was willing to play ball with them. Apparently he was, since his last chronological appearance was in the High Evolutionary story, back with the Brotherhood (spying on them, maybe?), but we'll have to wait and see.

Oh, and Jean and Logan have kissed once more, too, in a Classic X-Men back-up story. ;)

-D

jeangreydp
12-10-2004, 07:31 AM
How many times over the years have Jean and Logan made out? I know of at least three.

Uncanny X-Men #394
NEW X-MEN #117
And then once in the Extinction Agenda...

If you put inferno up there, you've got four. I'm pretty sure that's it though. Unless you count the dream sequence in Wolverine #12 (I think) where Logan dreams about uh....kissing...Jean...

The Lucky One
12-10-2004, 07:46 AM
And the Classic X-Men story. So, five.

-D

The Fury
12-10-2004, 08:07 AM
What I questioned more was how Rogue's Ms. Marvel powers came back after the wave was reversed. Sure, she'd get her power absorption back, but why would her stolen alien (not mutant) abilities return? I shouldn't complain, since it means Mimic would get the original X-Men's powers back too, but it does seem kinda suspect.

EDIT: in a later issue of X-51, Val Cooper was seen visiting Mimic in federal prison, saying that she thought he wasn't bad, just misguided, and that she could help him out of imprisonment if he was willing to play ball with them. Apparently he was, since his last chronological appearance was in the High Evolutionary story, back with the Brotherhood (spying on them, maybe?), but we'll have to wait and see.

What should really be asked is why she lost those powers in the first place, they are not mutant powers. Her abosrbtion sure but not those powers.

So that's the order of events in volving Mimic, I couldn't remember which came first.

Crimson
12-10-2004, 08:20 AM
I miss Mimic... I wasn't just reading my Masterworks were he lead the X-Men.

Dizzy D
12-10-2004, 08:56 AM
Why does it seem like the only time we talk anymore is to disagree about really minor comic plot points, Diz? :D

I don't know. You never call, you never write. It's the only way I can draw your attention these days :(

Anyway, while his Brotherhood membership is pretty suspect, I didn't have a problem with his powers being erased by the HE's power-eliminating wave.

Well, his original reason to be there (to save Xavier from Bastion and later Cerebro) made sense. By why he continued to be with Brotherhood was weird.

He's not a mutant, but his powers are founded on his body's copying of the genetic templates of mutants, or more specifically the parts that control their powers. Thus, if something were to come along that eliminates those genetic mutations worldwide, it should affect everyone, not just the actual mutants.

What I questioned more was how Rogue's Ms. Marvel powers came back after the wave was reversed. Sure, she'd get her power absorption back, but why would her stolen alien (not mutant) abilities return? I shouldn't complain, since it means Mimic would get the original X-Men's powers back too, but it does seem kinda suspect.

Yeah, that could work. Actually I believe I stated before it would have been interesting to see what would have happened if Mimic also had non-mutant powers permanently copied.

EDIT: in a later issue of X-51, Val Cooper was seen visiting Mimic in federal prison, saying that she thought he wasn't bad, just misguided, and that she could help him out of imprisonment if he was willing to play ball with them. Apparently he was, since his last chronological appearance was in the High Evolutionary story, back with the Brotherhood (spying on them, maybe?), but we'll have to wait and see.

Ah, didn't have the X-51 appearance (only the one where X-51 takes down the entire Brotherhood by himself. Didn't find the series interesting enough to continue.

Oh, and Jean and Logan have kissed once more, too, in a Classic X-Men back-up story. ;)

-D

There are problably some more instances. I really can't blame Scott for going to Emma.

jcadden76
12-10-2004, 09:22 AM
In the same breath I can't blame Wolvie for going for the red head either. ;)

The Lucky One
12-10-2004, 09:30 AM
I miss Mimic... I wasn't just reading my Masterworks were he lead the X-Men.

Yeah. He rubbed it in with Wolverine once, too, when Logan was being a little too condescending with him. *wink* One of the few good things about that MCP story.

(And Diz, I agree about X-51... I only bought the two issues that had Mimic in them. Damn you, completism!)

-D

Dizzy D
12-10-2004, 09:43 AM
Yeah. He rubbed it in with Wolverine once, too, when Logan was being a little too condescending with him. *wink* One of the few good things about that MCP story.

(And Diz, I agree about X-51... I only bought the two issues that had Mimic in them. Damn you, completism!)

-D

Well, Austen knocked the completist completely out of me. So I'm thankful for that. Since then it has become so much easier to drop titles like Exiles for instance.

GoGo Yubari
12-10-2004, 10:00 AM
Does anyone remember what the name of the boy band being held hostage in the first issue of Milligan's X-Force was?

mattbib
12-10-2004, 10:04 AM
Does anyone remember what the name of the boy band being held hostage in the first issue of Milligan's X-Force was?Boys R Us

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GoGo Yubari
12-10-2004, 10:06 AM
Boys R Us

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Thanks. I will always remember this. *Eerie music.*

jcadden76
12-10-2004, 10:20 AM
Does anyone remember what the name of the boy band being held hostage in the first issue of Milligan's X-Force was?

Is Milligan's the first or second run of X-Force?

mattbib
12-10-2004, 10:24 AM
Is Milligan's the first or second run of X-Force?He wrote the last several issues of the first X-Force run and all of X-Statix.

Dizzy D
12-10-2004, 10:32 AM
Is Milligan's the first or second run of X-Force?

See Mattbib's answer, he started with X-force #116 and after X-force #129 the title turned into X-statix.

jcadden76
12-10-2004, 01:25 PM
In that case no I don't like his work at all. Hated X-Statix for the most part. Ridiculous comic.

The Lucky One
12-10-2004, 01:27 PM
Is Milligan's the first or second run of X-Force?

Just out of curiosity, did you like the "first run" of X-Force? And if so, what parts?

-D

jcadden76
12-10-2004, 01:36 PM
First run of X-Force was the first real departure from the Xavier utopia idea. Also it was a growing phase for ome of those New Mutant characters. It also had Cable and Domino.

The art was not great, that I will admit. The characters were scary-muscular.

Ryan K
12-10-2004, 10:35 PM
I think I've actually asked this question before, but I want to be crystal clear on this before I go through with a trade.

Classic X-Men #1-44 are the only issues of that series to have additional stories with the reprints. Correct?

There is nothing other than the previously printed material in Classic X-Men/X-Men Classic 45+. Right? (other than new covers).

jcadden76
12-10-2004, 10:41 PM
I think I've actually asked this question before, but I want to be crystal clear on this before I go through with a trade.

Classic X-Men #1-44 are the only issues of that series to have additional stories with the reprints. Correct?

There is nothing other than the previously printed material in Classic X-Men/X-Men Classic 45+. Right? (other than new covers).

That is correct as far as I know. 1-44 have an additional story in the second half don't they? Or am I thinking of something else.

The Fury
12-11-2004, 05:56 AM
Was there any explanation to why they decided to kill off half the original Hellions off-panel in Uncanny #281 and #282?

It's just I get annoyed when I find out they killed a load of characters seemingly pointlessly.


EDIT: Another question, where's Lila Cheney at the moment? Last appearence, anything happen?

discostu
12-11-2004, 05:59 AM
Does anyone have even the slightest idea what the whole "Landau, Luckman and Lake" sub plot in wolverine was about? is this interdimensional law firm thingy ever going to rear its head again?

mattbib
12-11-2004, 12:13 PM
Was there any explanation to why they decided to kill off half the original Hellions off-panel in Uncanny #281 and #282?
No, but it would've been tedious to show every individual death. The whole point, though, was to establish Fitzroy as a major layer.
EDIT: Another question, where's Lila Cheney at the moment? Last appearence, anything happen?
Presumably touring. Nothing specific happened in her last appearance that would suggest otherwise.

The Fury
12-11-2004, 12:27 PM
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No, but it would've been tedious to show every individual death. The whole point, though, was to establish Fitzroy as a major layer.

Presumably touring. Nothing specific happened in her last appearance that would suggest otherwise.
Thanks and Thanks. :)

HowardD
12-11-2004, 02:48 PM
The end of this issue (Uncanny X-Men 227) always bugged me. Its the
very end of Fall of the Mutants and the godess Roma brings all of the
X-Men back from the dead and gives them a chance at a new life. One of
her gifts to them was the ability to not be detected by video/audio
equipment. I know this kept up for several years and was even
mentioned in the Havok/Wolverine mini-series Meltdown. They were able
to modify their own equipment to see each other.

Then all of a sudden, everyone could see them around the time of
Extenction Agenda. My question is this: Is it ever officially
determined how people could all of a sudden see the X-Men on video and
hear them over audio transmissions?

Also, in this issue, Roma gives the X-Men the Siege Perilous, which
they can go through to reset their lives (several of them ended up
going through it.) What the heck was that all about? Had the Seige Perilous ever showed up before in the MU? Does someone in the X-Men still have it?

atoningunifex
12-11-2004, 02:59 PM
No, the X-Men don't have the Siege Perilous anymore. When the last four X-Men went through the Siege it was crushed by one of the Reavers.

As for suddenly seeing them again....I don't think there ever was an explanation. I think it was just dropped. One could theorize that once they stopped being the guardians of the Siege they reverted back to b