"Post your various questions about the X-men here" thread

[Dizzy D]

Great question.

No, I do not believe it has ever been revealed exactly why Dani was exiled from Asgard.

That would make for an interesting New X-Men fill-in, no?

-Brian

The current fan-theory (warning none of this anything beyond pure speculation): Dani was kicked out of the Valkyries after she fought Death, trying to save Sam:
it would explain
a) Why Sam survived Sauron's attack (without being a High Lord)
and
b) Why Dani was gone from Asgard.

It wouldn't explain the changes into Brightwind though.

[Athena Bast]

They went into the room together when it was day and the next panel, it was night and Alex was sleeping in the bed :p And it was during downtime, just before Inferno, and Alex was in a speedo which seemed to be his outfit of choice during that time.
THANK YOU!!

The Inferno trade.. that's it.. I new i read it in colour. THANK YOU!!!

[Anon_me]

It would but if may be mistaken but in either (New) X-men #100 or 101 she appeared for one scene, well I think it was her. If it ws her when was she seen before that and did she have the Valkryie thing then?

Dani became a valkryie back in 1985 during The Asgardian Wars. After that, she was able to see premonitions of a person's death and when Death comes to claim them, Dani could choose to fight Death to try and keep them alive. Some time after Skids, Rusty, et al. joined the New Mutants, there was an arc about the valkryies being corrupted by Hela in a bid to take over Asgard and after Hela was defeated, Dani stayed behind in Asgard to help fix the damage. She was unheard from for awhile and then she resurfaced in X-force as part of the MLF and appeared to no longer be a valkryie but still possessed a link to them, which pops up every once in awhile; usually when there's magic/gods/demons involved and she suddenly becomes all mystical and apparently immune to all sorts of bad voodoo due to her being "marked" by Asgard.

I don't know about her being kicked out of the Valkryor for fighting to save Sam. As a valkryie, she has the option to fight for the life of someone if she so chooses; and if she is strong enough and if the person has a chance of survival, she can defeat Death. Doesn't always happen though; she couldn't save her childhood friend from dying from insulin shock since he was too far gone and it wouldn't matter if she prolonged his life since he would spend the rest of it in a coma. She also couldn't save Doug for, I guess the same reason, being that he was long gone when they discovered him.

[MuffinMan]

Heh my first post on here and it's a stupid little question.

When Nightcrawler teleports, does he maintain his initial speed as right before he teleported. Like, he could do it while running and reappear with no loss of speed?

Also has he ever ported into a moving vehicle like a car, train, airplane? Wouldn't he, especially if he re-appeared in mid-air, go splattering against the wall of the vehicle? Does Nightcrawler defy physics?

[Anon_me]

I believe he does maintain his initial velocity when he ports; I remember when they were captured by Doom and he ported two miles up into the air and started falling, he couldn't just port down because he would go splat against the ground when he appeared. I think he has ported into a moving vehicle before.

[Brian Cronin]

The current fan-theory (warning none of this anything beyond pure speculation): Dani was kicked out of the Valkyries after she fought Death, trying to save Sam:
it would explain
a) Why Sam survived Sauron's attack (without being a High Lord)
and
b) Why Dani was gone from Asgard.

It wouldn't explain the changes into Brightwind though.

You've convinced me.

Whoever came up with that idea is brilliant.

As for the Bright to Darkwind thing...if Dani beat Death to save Sam by doing something really dirty, that would make sense why they dirtified her steed, right?

-Brian

[Stagier]

Heh my first post on here and it's a stupid little question.

When Nightcrawler teleports, does he maintain his initial speed as right before he teleported. Like, he could do it while running and reappear with no loss of speed?

Also has he ever ported into a moving vehicle like a car, train, airplane? Wouldn't he, especially if he re-appeared in mid-air, go splattering against the wall of the vehicle? Does Nightcrawler defy physics?


yes and no.
he has been shown to maintain velocity, when revolutions was taking place? he was in the danger room, falling downwards. he then ported upside down and was show flying UPWARDS at an enemy. kewl trick if you ask me.

i am sure he has also been shown 'porting into vehicles and rooms from a motion start without going splat. just can't remember where.

[nubly]

ok there several acolytes that died. melloncamp was killed by multiple man. kath was killed in cable's title, as was senyaka. now in the magneto war crossover, these three characters appear again except kath has a different name. was it ever explained how these three acolytes returned from the dead?

[Redray]

I don't know about Dani being kicked out of the Valkryor for fighting to save Sam. As a valkryie, she has the option to fight for the life of someone if she so chooses; and if she is strong enough and if the person has a chance of survival, she can defeat Death. Doesn't always happen though; she couldn't save her childhood friend from dying from insulin shock since he was too far gone and it wouldn't matter if she prolonged his life since he would spend the rest of it in a coma. She also couldn't save Doug for, I guess the same reason, being that he was long gone when they discovered him.

Interesting point about Doug here. WHY didn't Dani perceive the "death aura" around him on the Ani-Mator's island (or before they arrived there) if he WAS really going to die? As a Valkyrie, EVERY other time she encountered someone whose death was imminent, she was aware of a vision of death associated with that person. This failure to predict Doug's death was never explained either. And it's NOT that she didn't get a good opportunity to see the death effect... she was around Doug PLENTY in the lead up to his demise.

Ever-curious...!
:evilsmile

[Anon_me]

The explanation for Dani's inability to forsee Doug's death was given in New Mutants #65 where she explained that during a battle, the death glow flickers as danger threatens or recedes which was why she did not see Doug's death before. And this kind of fits since the first time she ever saw the aura was in Asgard when Wolverine was already poisoned and thus the circumstances leading to his demise were already in place thereby allowing her to percieve his death hours before it was suppose to happen, although I guess he could have died of Storm's attack too so that one's kind of fuzzy. However, there have been times when just the possibly of death due to circumstances of the situation allowed Dani to see the death glow such as in NM #41 when she clearly saw the imminent death of her friend before the actual cause of death occurred, but when the events leading to the cause of his death were triggered; plus, the actual cause of death occured hours after she saw the death glow so, who knows...

[Dizzy D]

ok there several acolytes that died. melloncamp was killed by multiple man. kath was killed in cable's title, as was senyaka. now in the magneto war crossover, these three characters appear again except kath has a different name. was it ever explained how these three acolytes returned from the dead?

In the Quicksilver series, Exodus showed the ability to restore death Acolytes back to life. (This is from heardsay, I bought 1 issue of the Quicksilver series myself and decided i didn't like it.)

[BoosterBronze]

I missed a lot of X-men recently for financial reasons starting from the end of Planet X. Help me out please as I try to catch up.

What the hell did Sublime have to do with Planet X?
How did Xorn come back?
How did Magneto come back?
Any other mind blowing changes I need to be up on to dive back into the main X-books?

Thanks for your time.

[Huzzah!]

I missed a lot of X-men recently for financial reasons starting from the end of Planet X. Help me out please as I try to catch up.

What the hell did Sublime have to do with Planet X?

Sublime was in control of Xorneto the whole time.


How did Xorn come back?
How did Magneto come back?

Here is how they are playing this story, and i still say its the right way because you can bring back magneto unscathed from Planet X. Apparently Xorn, because he was a Kick junkie (which is an aresole(sp) form a sublime) was essentially under control of Sublime. He went crazy by himself or with Sublime's pushing and thought he was magneto and created xorn. But he was actually Xorn thinking he was magneto.

So he got his headchopped off after getting the crap kicked out of him real easy and is still dead.

The Xorn in Xmen is apparently his brother, who's similiar in appearance and powers. The popular theory with him is that he and Xorn formed a sort of binary star deal, and with Xorn deader than disco his powers are somewhat out of control.

Magneto apparently is in Genotia (jez how do you spell that? Ive been getting it wrong all week). After the sentinel attack he seems to have stayed there and lived a hermit lifestyle.

Any other mind blowing changes I need to be up on to dive back into the main X-books?

Thanks for your time.

Well Colossus is back in Astonishing

other than that not really

[atoningunifex]

What the hell did Sublime have to do with Planet X?

Sublime was the villain for all of Morrison's run. The Sublime Entity controlled Magneto and used him to try and instigate a war between humans and mutants that would result in mutants being destroyed- thus preserving the Sublime Entity's place as the dominant species on Earth.

How did Xorn come back?
How did Magneto come back?

Through the magic of editorial decision. There has been no explanation given- and when there is it is sure to be amazingly stupid. basically, Marvel decided there was no way Magneto could be dead- after all, he's stilla fixture in the movies. So he's back and they are retconning in an impostor.

[Ryan K]

Does anybody know what issues X-men: The Early Years reprints? My local comic shop has the whole run for $15.00 and I'm intrigued.

[Brian Cronin]

It starts with #1 (1963), and goes from there until it ended.

-Brian

[Ryan K]

Alright. There seems to nly be 17 issues and I have the Essential book so I won't waste my money. Thanks Brian.

[Huzzah!]

Through the magic of editorial decision. There has been no explanation given- and when there is it is sure to be amazingly stupid. basically, Marvel decided there was no way Magneto could be dead- after all, he's stilla fixture in the movies. So he's back and they are retconning in an impostor.

I wouldnt say that. All the pieces are there. Xorn is real, he's existance if validated by New Xorn. Old Xorn seems to have gone crazy for whatever reason, probably sublime being his crazy ass self, and thought he was magneto. Magneto simply survived the sentinel attack and instead of going off to china and doing all that jibber jabba GM wanted him to do he simply stayed.

i suspect CC hasnt really addresssed the whole plotline yet because Chuck has dibs with his stuff first.

[Stagier]

ok... but xorneto was shown without a mask on, and having the head of a middle aged white guy. how exactly does one cover up a star for a head? and how come his brothers head is a skull? literally.

[atoningunifex]

I can't even believe I'm doing this....

As of Excalibur#1 we know that the Magneto who appeared in Grant Morrison's run was an imposter. Common feeling is that the imposter was Xorn and that Xorn was driven insane by Kick and decided to pretend to be Magneto and destroy New York.

Here's my retcon:

John Sublime was hunting for Xorn because he realized that Xorn was a mutant with magnetic abilities that surpassed Magneto's. When the X-Men rescued Xorn from John Sublime the offshoot of the Entity that was creating Kick began it's own attempt to take over Xorn.

Sublime already had access to Asteroid M as seen in the Assault on Weapon X arc. From files they recovered they created a composite mental map of Magneto- absorbing information about Magneto and developing a Magneto "persona". As the Sublime Entity is a hive mind all aspects of the Entity then had access to the Magneto persona.

When the Kick drug reached the X-Mansion and Esme, influenced by the Sublime Entity, introduced Xorn to it, the Sublime Entity got their foothold in Xorn. At that point it was a matter of time before Xorn, now a habitual Kick user, took on the Magneto Persona as his own and feel completely under the control of Kick.

The only two holes in that are Xorn's physical appearance as Magneto and the healing of Xavier. The healing of Xavier can be explained as Xorn using the quickest route to both purge the effects of the micrsentinels from Xavier and heal the damage to his spine. His appearance as Magneto is ahrder to explain away. I would assume that some hithero unknown mutant created a face for Xorn.

There. That's my retcon. i still think the whole thing is aptently absurd, but I can't resist a challenge.

[Huzzah!]

ok... but xorneto was shown without a mask on, and having the head of a middle aged white guy. how exactly does one cover up a star for a head? and how come his brothers head is a skull? literally.

He was originally shown without his mask on as having a ghost rider type appearance. As for why he looked like Magneto, or Magnetoish i suspect his power could have caused that. His powers werent explained extremely well since they were supposed to be fake, and yet for Xavier to walk they had to be real.

And for the most part i agree with atoning.

Although regardless of its absurdity without any explanation what Morrison wanted had much larger plot holes.

[BoosterBronze]

So six months after the give one of the most awesome mystery reveals of all time with Xorn being Magneto, we find out it was all BS? But there was so much awesome build up.

The first thing Xorn ever said was "I could have made the world a paradise. If they let me" foreshadowing he was Magneto.

When Quentin died, he was looking at Xorn saying "What if the enemy was with us all along."

Sigh. I'm confused. I think I'll just read Astonishing and Ultimate until this thing blows over. Thanks for the help fellas.

[atoningunifex]

So six months after the give one of the most awesome mystery reveals of all time with Xorn being Magneto, we find out it was all BS? But there was so much awesome build up.

The first thing Xorn ever said was "I could have made the world a paradise. If they let me" foreshadowing he was Magneto.

When Quentin died, he was looking at Xorn saying "What if the enemy was with us all along."

Sigh. I'm confused. I think I'll just read Astonishing and Ultimate until this thing blows over. Thanks for the help fellas.

Yes, Morrison always intended Xorn to be Magneto in disguise. Always. And the stories can continue to be read that way. Marvel, in its infinite wisdom, decided to completely disregard that- for whatever reason. Like all retcons, it will never make a whole bunch of sense. But, as with all retcons, if you jsut accept it and don't think abhout it it gets less annoying as time goes by.

[Beast]

If he always intended Xorn to be Magneto, he screwed up majorly with the New X-Men Annual that makes no sense in the conext of the storyline. There's massive plot holes in that issue alone that screams the fact that it couldn't be Magneto. The only way that the issue works is if Magneto replaced Xorn after the annual, chaining up the real Xorn underneath the monestary he was staying in. Which is where he was found in X-Men. :p

And that's not Quentin's exact dialogue from that scene. If I recall correctly, he says "What if the enemey was within us all along?", or something to that effect. He's not referring to Magneto at all with that line of dialogue, he's referring to the Sublime entity that is 'Within'. Again, the fact that it was reveled to be Magneto is uneccisary when he's not the true villian of the piece. And more plot holes of that not possibly being the real Magneto pop up if you consider things like Weapon Plus being built on Astroid M.

[hitokiri_]

is wolverine circumcized?

[Quarterwolf]

With how often Sabretooth or Lady Deathstrike have gone for the nut shot I am sure he is by now. :D

[hitokiri_]

but the skin regenerates right?

[Vegetarian Goat]

I'm sure Superman did it for him. With lazer vision.

[Romus]

What stops someone like the Hulk pulling Wolverine's arms out of their joints? i know his bones are laced with steel, but your bones are not connected to each other :D

[Huzzah!]

well i suspect if he was as a child, it was as a child and with that in mind, perhaps the regeneration doesnt go back that far.



but probably not/

[methanolcereal]

Who the hell cares?

[Steve Rogers]

What stops someone like the Hulk pulling Wolverine's arms out of their joints? i know his bones are laced with steel, but your bones are not connected to each other :D

in AoA his hand was blown of by cyclops optic blast and never grew back since the bones were blown off his hand.

[Romus]

Another great money maker for Marvel!

Wolverine : Circumcision #1

http://www.bbspot.com/Images/News_Features/2003/04/wolverine.jpg

[cosmicspidey]

As a child born in North America in the 1800s, I'd venture no. Circumcision didn't become a popular practice until relativley recently (for non-Jewish people, natch), like the 70s, I think. And his healing factor wouldn't matter since his powers wouldn't have kicked in until puberty, and he would have been circumsized at birth.

[Phoney Bone]

is wolverine circumcized?
Now I have to figure out a "double-dog dare" for you. ;)

[Rachel Grey]

I'd love to see his reaction to this thread :p

[Brian Cronin]

It is a fair question.

If Wolverine WAS circumcized, it WOULD take, as it would be before his mutant healing factor kicked in.

Beyond that, I think cosmicspidey is correct, the odds are slim that James Howlett would have been circumsized.

-Brian

[Cyke]

Crap, what was his daughter's name? The one from the same future as J2 and Spider-Girl?

I ask b/c I remember a thread from Wizardworld that asked if her hymen kept healing. If so... poor girl :(

[Jack Flash]

Her name was Wild Thing! :D

[The Lucky One]

What stops someone like the Hulk pulling Wolverine's arms out of their joints? i know his bones are laced with steel, but your bones are not connected to each other :D

Similar to that, you gotta wonder how he's able to cut things like diamond or the Hulk's skin. Having the sharpest knives in the world sitting in your arms is one thing; having the strength to make them actually slice through the second-toughest material in the world is quite another.

And sucks to be Wild Thing... yeesh. That's some bad luck right there, no mistake. Only plus I can see is that every new guy thinks he's the first. Even so, though- not a good scene.
:cool:

-D

[LoneWolf21]

You've convinced me.

Whoever came up with that idea is brilliant.

As for the Bright to Darkwind thing...if Dani beat Death to save Sam by doing something really dirty, that would make sense why they dirtified her steed, right?

-Brian

Really? Thanks. AFAIK I was the first person to bring up that as the reasoning behind Sam coming back to life/Dani getting booted out of Asgard.

[Brian Cronin]

Really? Thanks. AFAIK I was the first person to bring up that as the reasoning behind Sam coming back to life/Dani getting booted out of Asgard.

Well, then, place a laural upon your head. :)

It's a really neat idea that both

A. Makes sense
B. Follows continuity
C. Explains a seeming mistake of the writers
and
D. Sounds interesting

So of course it'll never happen in the comics. ;)

-Brian

[LoneWolf21]

Well, then, place a laural upon your head. :)

It's a really neat idea that both

A. Makes sense
B. Follows continuity
C. Explains a seeming mistake of the writers
and
D. Sounds interesting

So of course it'll never happen in the comics. ;)

-Brian

Yeah, when I first came up with the idea, I was actually suprised nobody had thuht of it before, heck, there's an example of Odin punishing Valkryies who didn't follow orders in Norse Myths (the story of Siegried and Brynhild, later used in Wagner's operas, although in Brynhild's case, he put her to sleep surrounded by fire), and I figure Odin would want a brave, strong, and true warrior like Sam up in Asgard (heck on top of that, the King of the Dwarves sees Sam as a son, and Sam himself even saved Odin's life once on top of that), and when Dani didn't do as told. Well, he kicked her out.

[Traser]

When did Psylocke have blonde hair? I remember seeing that posted on a thread once.

[The Fury]

When did Psylocke have blonde hair? I remember seeing that posted on a thread once.
When she was in her English body and before she ever appeared in the X-men at all. She is naturally blond like her brother Brian. Her hair first appeared purple in the Alan Moore Captain Britain story. She died it ubtil her asian body weirdly had naturally purple hair, I think.

She also appeared with blond hair in Uncanny #256.

When she does return, she should return with her hair it's natural colour, imv.

[Traser]

Ahh...interesting thanks Fury.

[Ryan K]

This has probably been covered a 1000 times, but I keep forgetting.

Can anybody tell me the names of all the Cuckoo's? Which are the two that died? Which are the three that are still with the school?



BTW. I love this thread. Think of all the 1 question threads this has prevented.

[ibrakeforchinwe]

This has probably been covered a 1000 times, but I keep forgetting.

Can anybody tell me the names of all the Cuckoo's? Which are the two that died? Which are the three that are still with the school?



BTW. I love this thread. Think of all the 1 question threads this has prevented.


the Cuckoos were. Esme, Sophie, Phoebe, Mindee and Celeste. Sophie was killed when she used Kick and then Cerebra. Magneto(Xorn) killed Esme by melting her earings and hurling them thru her head.

[Huzzah!]

celeste must get picked on because her name doesnt follow the rthymn scheme

[Anon_me]

How powerful of a precog is Psylocke suppose to be? I've only seen her use it twice...once in X-men just before a van was about to blow up and once in Excalibur when Alysande Sturat was killed by Jamie Braddock. Also, I didn't start reading X-men till the outback years so I'm just wondering, is Psylocke's primary power precognition with some telepathy or vice versa? Thanks

[mattbib]

Vice versa. Her precognition wasn't something she could even control IIRC. And does anyone remember he even having it after her transformation?

[Anon_me]

Thanks and yes, she had it in her Asian body.

[Alkey_McAlkAlk]

I've been in and out of x-comics the last few years.

Who is sublime, what is sublime, first apparance, history... :confused:

please fill me in...

[DDM]

"John Sublime" is a sentient virus that wants to eliminate mutantkind & mankind from all of planet Earth.

[hitokiri_]

what is the radius of his telepathy? my bud said that he can only close 1 brain at a time, is that true? and claimed that charles w/o the cerebro can only reach 35 miles with his telepathy.

[Huzzah!]

at least thats what he says, but he get around to it in really implausible ways.

He likes to be smoked though

[Ryan K]

Here's a little information

Sublime (http://www.uncannyxmen.net/db/characters/showquestion.asp?fldAuto=1298)

Try not to think about it too much. Your head will explode. I've seen it happen in many a comic book store. Brains are very tough to get out of back issues.

[Huzzah!]

what is the radius of his telepathy? my bud said that he can only close 1 brain at a time, is that true? and claimed that charles w/o the cerebro can only reach 35 miles with his telepathy.

If he can only reach 35 miles he's crappier than Psylocke.

He could do worldwide until Magneto decided to screw with the elector mag field so as to shut him down

[LordAllMighty]

what is the radius of his telepathy?

He can project his own thoughts into the minds of others within a radius of 250 miles (on Earth) with no difficult. With extreme effort he can greatly extended that radius, (in the past years, Professor X could use his telepathic powers on a global scale but Magneto has since altered the Earth’s magnetic fields, thus creating long range “psychic static” limiting Prof. X mental abilities.

my bud said that he can only close 1 brain at a time, is that true??

What do you mean by close? He has the ability to induce in others mental illusions, temporary mental or physical paralysis, and loss of specific memories or total amnesia; the projection of "mental bolts" to stun or render a person unconscious. Within close range Xavier can manipulate almost any number of minds for such simple feats. Now, the only thing he can’t do is take full possession of more then one mind at a time, without being in the person presence.

and claimed that charles w/o the cerebro can only reach 35 miles with his telepathy.

Well, he did make mental contact with Lilandra in the Shi’ar galaxy, which is light-years away.:)

[Siddon]

Read War of the Programs, Weapon X and Here Comes Tomorow, New X-men

all will be answered

[UniqueFrequency]

an incredibly boring villian who has WAY overstayed his welcome and should be dead twice over

[Brian Cronin]

Thanks and yes, she had it in her Asian body.

Can you recall when she last used it in her Asian body?

For the life of me, I can't recall...

-Brian

[Dizzy D]

Can you recall when she last used it in her Asian body?

For the life of me, I can't recall...

-Brian

The aforementioned dead of Alysande Stuart (though I didn't see that as pre-cognition: the older precognitive woman saw it way before her and Psylocke seemed to react telepathically at the moment it happened rather than before.)

[igarath]

The rest of them are slackers. LOL. I believe Emma Frost (Who needs a codename) is businesswoman, and seems to have a sex therapy background, or so she said. It does seem odd that there are so many people around to teach, with no formal training.

Could there ever be a mutant correspondance class. :D

sex therapy?! what sex therapy?! where?! :confused:

[Anon_me]

The aforementioned dead of Alysande Stuart (though I didn't see that as pre-cognition: the older precognitive woman saw it way before her and Psylocke seemed to react telepathically at the moment it happened rather than before.)

You're right, I recalled incorrectly on that one. But she did have a precog flash in X-men #4 or #5 when Wolverine was kidnapped by Omega Red. Cyclops and Colossus were fighting a van and Psylocke got a flash that it was going to explode; was a cool panel too :p Other than that, I don't remember her ever having another precog flash in either bodies.


sex therapy?! what sex therapy?! where?! :confused:

Emma mentioned she was a qualified sex therapist in Murder in the Mansion when Jean confronted her about her and Scott.

[Ryan K]

Ok, so when did Iceman become completely ice exactly?

I thought it was when he got shattered into a couple million pieces at the begining of The Draco arc. He reformed his body at the end of the arc by using water from one of the bad guys.

But in the very next issue, in the Trial of the Juggernaut arc, he's seen in his human form at a table with Professor Xavier, She-Hulk, Husk, etc.

Was this just a mix-up on the artists behalf? Did he become completely ice off panel between Uncanny X-men #435 and X-men #157 (where it's stated)? Did I miss something?

[Dizzy D]

Ok, so when did Iceman become completely ice exactly?

I thought it was when he got shattered into a couple million pieces at the begining of The Draco arc. He reformed his body at the end of the arc by using water from one of the bad guys.

But in the very next issue, in the Trial of the Juggernaut arc, he's seen in his human form at a table with Professor Xavier, She-Hulk, Husk, etc.

Was this just a mix-up on the artists behalf? Did he become completely ice off panel between Uncanny X-men #435 and X-men #157 (where it's stated)? Did I miss something?

When in doubt, just say "image inducer." Explains everything. (Like how Wolverine got his nose back between issues with no explanation.)

[The Fury]

Ok, so when did Iceman become completely ice exactly?

I thought it was when he got shattered into a couple million pieces at the begining of The Draco arc. He reformed his body at the end of the arc by using water from one of the bad guys.

But in the very next issue, in the Trial of the Juggernaut arc, he's seen in his human form at a table with Professor Xavier, She-Hulk, Husk, etc.

Was this just a mix-up on the artists behalf? Did he become completely ice off panel between Uncanny X-men #435 and X-men #157 (where it's stated)? Did I miss something?
OK, I do know that he start to become completely ice just after the story when Jugger's joined the team (or wanted their help stopping Black Tom from absobing everyone) He got stabbed through the chest, rebuilt his organs but was undable to revert them to human from again. He later was found hiding in the schools freezer so as not to melt at night.

I also looked at the issue you said about and it's either an image inducer or the artist/colourist forgot about it (or maybe Austen himself).

I just find it funny that he is only in 2 panels and is looking at She-Hulk lustfully the whole time.

[Sabre]

Emma mentioned she was a qualified sex therapist in Murder in the Mansion when Jean confronted her about her and Scott.

Frankly, I've always thought she was just BS'ing about that as a way to get into Cyclops' pants. Kind of like her also claiming she's 27---there's no way she can be only 27. I think she's just an accomplished liar.

[Anon_me]

well...the Emma Frost series supposedly takes place around 10 years ago or so and if she was in high school then, she'd be late 20s now :p

[The Lucky One]

It's a bit of a stretch, but I could buy her as late 20s. The MU started 12 years ago, Marvel time. At the time, the original X-Men were 15 (Iceman) to 17-18 (Beast). Thus, they're now in their late 20s and possibly very early 30s. Yeah, I would've guessed Emma was somewhat older than them, but there's nothing specifically indicating she is that I can recall.

-D

[Sabre]

She sure looked older (and acted like something of a 'mature woman') when she was with the Hellfire Club. But if she debuted about 5 years ago Marvel time...or maybe even longer...I find it hard to believe she was only 22 or so as the White Queen. For one thing, she'd barely be older than her Hellions.

[BoosterBronze]

Here's a question on Ultimate X-Men "New Mutants part 2"

In the story in question, Wolverine, presumably on Prof. X's orders cold bloodedly murders a mutant teenager who's only crime was being born with a really whack mutation.

Didn't Prof. X NOT kill Magneto in issue 6 because he didn't believe in murder? Isn't there SOME OTHER WAY? Charlie kept his own son, with a hyperdangerous mutation, locked away but not dead.

I stopped reading Bendis's run after that issue, so if there was some kind of twist ending I missed it. Anyone else have thoughts on this?

(I assume someone must have already brought this up, but I did a search and couldnt find it)

[The Lucky One]

Here's a question on Ultimate X-Men "New Mutants part 2"

In the story in question, Wolverine, presumably on Prof. X's orders cold bloodedly murders a mutant teenager who's only crime was being born with a really whack mutation.

Chuck didn't know anything about it. Later stories revealed that, just as we speculated, Logan did it at Nick Fury's request.

-D

[Stagier]

i have a question about power changes
When did bobby (sunspot) lose his flight and solar blasts?

can shatterstar still hum and blast?

[grampa doowop]

She sure looked older (and acted like something of a 'mature woman') when she was with the Hellfire Club. But if she debuted about 5 years ago Marvel time...or maybe even longer...I find it hard to believe she was only 22 or so as the White Queen. For one thing, she'd barely be older than her Hellions.

I agree. I believe because of the way Emma was normally drawn in her early appearance (i.e. very sharp chin...okay so I can't think of anything else) to me implied an older woman. This is not to say that people of any age can't have sharp chins, but unless you are that detailed of an artist, simple things like that help to imply age for a drawn character.

The mother-type role to the Hellions, and later Gen X, as you mentioned also played this up as well.

Her "pairing" with Banshee later sorta hinted at her being around his age. And with Sean having a daughter Theresa's age, he would have to be at least in his early forties...late thirties possibly but that might be pushing it.

Also wasn't Emma also "paired" with Sebastian Shaw at some point...I could be wrong. I know he's not in his 20's...not that that would make a relationship impossible or wrong, just grasping for straws for my point.

It seems like she was de-aged around the time they tried hooking her up with Iceman... :( I guess others took that and ran...Morrison and now Whedon, not that it is a strech like The Lucky One said for Emma to be 27, but other things alluded to her being older in my opinion.

[The Lucky One]

i have a question about power changes
When did bobby (sunspot) lose his flight and solar blasts?

He never did officially, but I think Marvel's doing their best now to gloss over a lot of the questionable character alterations that were made in the 90s. I'm guessing you won't see Dani using her "psychic arrows" or Shan manifesting mindshields anytime soon either. Who knows, maybe we'll get an explanation someday.

can shatterstar still hum and blast?

.....I'm sorry, I just can't. It's too easy.
:D

(Okay, okay... *ahem* With Rictor he can!)

He almost never used it back in the day, but if Rob feels like bringing it back, whatever.

-D

[Stagier]

.....I'm sorry, I just can't. It's too easy.
:D

(Okay, okay... *ahem* With Rictor he can!)

He almost never used it back in the day, but if Rob feels like bringing it back, whatever.

-D

i know sorry it's an honest question. to think when i originally wrote it i used the word blow......

[LoneWolf21]

i have a question about power changes
When did bobby (sunspot) lose his flight and solar blasts?

As far as Iknow, he never has lost them. I remember zCarmont not having him using them back in the fial Xtreme arc, but that dosn't mean he lost them, it could be pis (plot induced stupidity) or Chris had forgoten/wasn't aware of the power upgrades.

[Stagier]

As far as Iknow, he never has lost them. I remember zCarmont not having him using them back in the fial Xtreme arc, but that dosn't mean he lost them, it could be pis (plot induced stupidity) or Chris had forgoten/wasn't aware of the power upgrades.

i think it's safe to say that he doesn't have them anymore. why else would he just sit there and almost die?

sunspot: "mm hot lava all around me, amara and bishop. I COULD fly us out of here but i think i will wait and see if a better plan comes up in the next 2 seconds...."

[Gandt]

I have a question, as I have been out of the X-Men loop since Jim Lee's run on them in the early 90's.

Who were the members of the Weapon X program? I'll list a few that I remember, and you guys feel free to correct me/update the list as you see fit. Thanks in advance!

Wolverine
Silver Fox
Deadpool
Sabertooth
Maverick
Garrison Kane

I heard rumor that **SPOLIER**

The Native was part of it, as well as X-23.


Thanks again people.

[Flight]

There was also Fantomex (I think he was Weapon 12) and Weapon XV was in Morrison's run
Wasn't Captain America Weapon I?

[Expletive Deleted]

There's a distinction between the Weapon Plus program (the super-soldier conspiracy behind everything from Cap to Ultimaton) and the Weapon X program (Wolverine and company), which started as a part of Weapon Plus but split off on its own.

In terms of Weapon X, as a separate entity, there are tons of minor characters associated with the various phases of the program, from Team X associates like John Wraith and Mastodon to Deadpool's contemporaries like Ajax and Slayback to the current program's operatives like Sauron and Aurora.

I don't believe anything's been clarified regarding X-23, at this point. No idea about The Native, since I don't read WOLVERINE.

[The Fury]

There was also Fantomex (I think he was Weapon 12) and Weapon XV was in Morrison's run
Wasn't Captain America Weapon I?
Cap was Weapon I, you are correct. Fantomex was 13 and that other thing in the EuroTunnel was 12.

But I think Gandt was asking just about the Weapon X (or Plus) program. As in not all the Weapon's, unless I am mistaken.

[Ryan K]

Aren't the Cuckoos Weapon something or other (I don't know the number).

I have a headache now.

[nubly]

how is it possible that psylocke is a mutant but not cap britain? all mutant characters that have older siblings as mutants always have the x-factor gene. now they are both twins. they were born at the same time so how is it possible one is a mutant but not the other?

[Expletive Deleted]

Weapon I: Captain America.
Weapon X: Wolverine.
Weapon XII: Zona AKA Huntsman (the creature in the tunnel).
Weaon XIII: Fantomex.
Weapon XIV: The Cuckoos.
Weapon XV: Ultimaton.

We know Nuke was somewhere between II and IX, but we don't know exactly where. Frank Tieri may have cleared some of this stuff up in his "War of the Programs" arc in WEAPON X, but I haven't heard anything specific.

[The Fury]

how is it possible that psylocke is a mutant but not cap britain? all mutant characters that have older siblings as mutants always have the x-factor gene. now they are both twins. they were born at the same time so how is it possible one is a mutant but not the other?
Well, one is a female the other isn't, same reason behind that I suppose. I don`t know whether there has actually been an explanation to it.

Adding Jamie Braddock is also a mutant. So it must have missed Brian out.
Aren't the Cuckoos Weapon something or other (I don't know the number).
According to 'Here Comes Tomorrow', they refered to theselves as Weapon XIV (14) but I think that`s all we know.

[The Fury]

Weapon I: Captain America.
Weapon X: Wolverine.

That`s quite a large gap between Cap and Wolverine, 8 other at least. Nuke maybe one of them but that still leaves 7 known, they could be already existing characters but with their memories wiped or repleaced and they do not know they are part of the Weapon program.

[The Lucky One]

how is it possible that psylocke is a mutant but not cap britain? all mutant characters that have older siblings as mutants always have the x-factor gene. now they are both twins. they were born at the same time so how is it possible one is a mutant but not the other?

They have a human mother, but their father is from Otherworld- it's that genetic heritage which gives Cap his superstrength, flight, etc. Theoretically, that would mean Betsy wasn't a mutant either. However, as others have pointed out, telepathy is rare even among Otherworlders; most of them get the strength/endurance/flight combo like Brian. Thus, Betsy might be a mutant Otherworlder rather than a mutant human.

Of course, that doesn't take into account her later Japanese body. Revanche was never shown using telepathy in flashbacks, but she may have been a latent mutant that had Spiral kickstart her mutation (like was done with Polaris) when she switched their bodies. It's all very confusing.

-D

[The Fury]

They have a human mother, but their father is from Otherworld- it's that genetic heritage which gives Cap his superstrength, flight, etc. Theoretically, that would mean Betsy wasn't a mutant either. However, as others have pointed out, telepathy is rare even among Otherworlders; most of them get the strength/endurance/flight combo like Brian. Thus, Betsy might be a mutant Otherworlder rather than a mutant human.

Now, I always thought that he got his powers from the Amulet Of Right itself, where the Sword of Might caused destruction the Amulet was protection eg Force Field the durablity etc. Yes, I know about his father but I thought it was Merlin and others who empowered him with these abilities as part of the CB Corps. If I am wrong, oh well, my history on the great character just changed.

About the mutant thing, Brian was meant to be a savior of sorts, so maybe because Betty and Jamie were also born and were extra their mutant powers were bought on by the fact that Brian had already been chosen and they were just altered in a way.

[Expletive Deleted]

That`s quite a large gap between Cap and Wolverine, 8 other at least. Nuke maybe one of them but that still leaves 7 known, they could be already existing characters but with their memories wiped or repleaced and they do not know they are part of the Weapon program.I think there was a mention that at least a few of those iterations were animal tests, but, yeah, there's a lot of room in there.

I kind of like the fan theories that include the cybernetic secret agents from ELEKTRA: ASSASSIN (Garrett (http://www.marvunapp.com/Appendix/garrettjohnelektra.htm) and Perry (http://www.marvunapp.com/Appendix/perryarthurel.htm)) and Typhoid Mary (via The Fortress (http://www.marvunapp.com/Appendix/fortres3.htm)), but it's not as if either of those are anything more than speculation.

EDIT: Found the reference. In #130, Fantomex says that II and III were animal tests and that VIII was the first time they used a mutant.

[Jack Flash]

what number was Wild Child then, I know Kyle was in the Weapon X program for a while before joining X-factor. And there was another Weapon X in Seagle's Alpha Flight run.

[Expletive Deleted]

He wasn't any of them. Remember what I said about Weapon X splitting off into a separate organization?

In terms of being the tenth Weapon Plus project, Wolverine is the only Weapon X. Everyone else with that tag is affiliated with the spin-off group.

[Anon_me]

Of course, that doesn't take into account her later Japanese body. Revanche was never shown using telepathy in flashbacks, but she may have been a latent mutant that had Spiral kickstart her mutation (like was done with Polaris) when she switched their bodies. It's all very confusing.

-D

In that last arc when Revanche was dying of the Legacy Virus, it was revealed that the asian body did have latent telepathic abilities but Revanche never realized this and only accessed them on a subconcious level as inutitive flashes; that being said, I seem to recall that although the asian body did have telepathy, it was at a much lower level than that of Betsy's original body. In the end, I believe that Revanche used the final flare-up of the virus before death to transfer all of the telepathic powers from the British body to the Asian one via Matsuo (don't ask me how that worked but Matsuo was telepathic for awhile, I guess) which resulted in the Asian body having much greater telepathic abilities than before.

[Doom Hammer]

Has the Ultimate Phoenix Force been explained?

[Expletive Deleted]

Has the Ultimate Phoenix Force been explained?Nope, not yet.

[Doom Hammer]

Thanks.

Hmm, ten character requirements suck. :D

[Dizzy D]

what number was Wild Child then, I know Kyle was in the Weapon X program for a while before joining X-factor. And there was another Weapon X in Seagle's Alpha Flight run.


If I remember correctly, Wild Child wasn't part of Weapon X before he joined Alpha Flight and X-factor, but was the victim of the Secret Empire (an old group that has fought everybody from Captain America to Spider-Man)

[fishtaco]

who is he?

[mattbib]

http://www.marvunapp.com/Appendix/klgath.htm

[fishtaco]

ah, alright. so he's more of a marvel villain, not just an X-men villain.

[The Fury]

ah, alright. so he's more of a marvel villain, not just an X-men villain.
Yeah he is, word of advice, FishTaco (i'm not moaning just pointing out), but there is a thread below that is entitled 'Post your Various Questions about the X-men' thread where this question could have been asked.

[The Fury]

While doing research I found out that Pete Wisdom was dead, is this true?

If so, how, when, why? and all the other crap.

[Flight]

He died in X-Force but I thought he came back...? lol

[nubly]

what happend to jean's all-new, all-different x-men that showed up during the eve of destruction crossover? i really liked the idea of sunpyre and wrath. also, was it ever said if jean did mentally manipulate frenzy's decision to join the team?

[Sheldon]

Will Sammy show up in the White Hot Room?

[Beast]

Will Sammy show up in the White Hot Room?
He'll become the next White Phoenix of the Crown, once Jean returns to life in 2005. :)

[Dizzy D]

While doing research I found out that Pete Wisdom was dead, is this true?

If so, how, when, why? and all the other crap.

Shot in the head when guiding X-force from an abandoned S.H.I.E.L.D.-base in LA to stop an insane genius from mutating the population of LA. Insane genius didn't like it and shot Pete in the head.

Pete later returned with no explanation except that he had faked his death (being a S.H.I.E.L.D.-base a LMD being shot instead would be the most logical answer.)

[mattbib]

what happend to jean's all-new, all-different x-men that showed up during the eve of destruction crossover? i really liked the idea of sunpyre and wrath. also, was it ever said if jean did mentally manipulate frenzy's decision to join the team?Most wanted nothing to do with the X-Men.

Dazzler left to get past the alleged death of her husband and has since returned to a music career.

Sunpyre went on to join X-Corps and was killed in action.

Paulie Provenzano was apparently killed in a Neverland gas chamber.

Wraith didn't want to be a superhero.

And presumably Frenzy was returned to federal custody.

[The Fury]

Shot in the head when guiding X-force from an abandoned S.H.I.E.L.D.-base in LA to stop an insane genius from mutating the population of LA. Insane genius didn't like it and shot Pete in the head.

Pete later returned with no explanation except that he had faked his death (being a S.H.I.E.L.D.-base a LMD being shot instead would be the most logical answer.)
So, is he alive? What issue did this happen in/how? (not the death, his return).

[Dizzy D]

Final issue of X-force before Milligan and Allred too over... that would be #115??? (I'm a mess with issue numbers)

And his return isn't much to write home about, he's just there on the final page, talking to Alistaire Stuart about X-force appearant death.

[nubly]

why do fans think that savage land's peter is colossus son? i know that colossus had sex with his mother but if there was a child born out of that, he would be much younger than savage land peter is.

also, its hard to tell whether people are being sarcastic on the net. when fans say they like (or make positive comments) sammy or mammomax, are they being sarcastic?

[Dizzy D]

why do fans think that savage land's peter is colossus son? i know that colossus had sex with his mother but if there was a child born out of that, he would be much younger than savage land peter is.

also, its hard to tell whether people are being sarcastic on the net. when fans say they like (or make positive comments) sammy or mammomax, are they being sarcastic?

There is some type of time-distortion going on with Savage Land's Peter (when the Savage Land was destroyed by Terminus/the Terminus' avatar the Savage Land people fled to a different dimension where time moved differently.*). He *is* Peter's son (it is so much as flat out stated in the annual)

*= Just compare it to Sarah becoming the full-grown Marrow within a years worth of comics.

EDIT: and I don't know about Mamomax, but there are a lot of posters who genuinely like Sammy.

[The Fury]

I like Sammy.


Quick question, anyone know the nationallity of 'Sugar Kane'? The Britney Spears ripoff? Just wondering is all.

[nubly]

sugar kane is welsh, if i remember correctly

[Flight]

Oops, this post was meant for X-Cres lol

Um... random questions... um... Who did Rogue absorb to get her dumb hair from?

[The Fury]

sugar kane is welsh, if i remember correctly
REally, anyone know if there is a profile out there, I went here to the Handbook (http://www.comicboards.com/marvelguide/) but she was not listed.

[atoningunifex]

Oops, this post was meant for X-Cres lol

Um... random questions... um... Who did Rogue absorb to get her dumb hair from?


She didn't. She did it all herself. heck she even CHANGED it. She used to have the two white stripes on the side. Silly Rogue.

[mechngnr]

If this was asked alredy sorry I havent' read the whole thread yet.

If Shadowcat phases someone does the phased person's powers become phased? For instance if she were to phase Cylops and he shot an optic blast at a wall would the blast then pass through the wall?

I can see her throwing a ball that she has phased and it becomes unphased once it leaves her hand but what about an energy blast as stated above. :confused:

[DDM]

If this was asked alredy sorry I havent' read the whole thread yet.

If Shadowcat phases someone does the phased person's powers become phased? For instance if she were to phase Cylops and he shot an optic blast at a wall would the blast then pass through the wall?

I can see her throwing a ball that she has phased and it becomes unphased once it leaves her hand but what about an energy blast as stated above. :confused:

Yes, as long as she is holding onto the person while Kitty is phasing, the person will possess Shadowcat's phasing powers, but Kitty controls the power still by her will alone. When Kitty phased Rachel Summers into the wall of a bank, Rachel automatically psi-linked with Kitty since Kitty was phasing Rachel as well (Excalibur #1). Kitty has also literally phased into another teammate, Colossus when the X-Men & Hellfire Club fought Nimrod; Nimrod was taken unawares since he was not ready to counteract Kitty's phasing power when he thought he was only dealing with Colossus. Kitty also used Peter's body to phase out of the ground faster since she was inside Peter's body (Uncanny X-Men #208-209). Kitty phased a car when a few criminals escaped, but she did not phase the criminals; as a result, the criminals literally phased out of the car (Excalibur #3).

Magik's Soulsword could affect Kitty while she was phasing; Magik's sword cut Kitty's cheek (Uncanny X-Men #171). Later, Claremont established that Kitty gained Magik's Soulsword & armor, if for any reason, that Magik died or ceased to exist. The connection was never explained fully except perhaps Magik & Shadowcat were best friends (New Mutants #31, 36, Excalibur #6-7).

As long as Kitty is touching another person & she uses her powers, they too will be phased.

[Dizzy D]

If this was asked alredy sorry I havent' read the whole thread yet.

If Shadowcat phases someone does the phased person's powers become phased? For instance if she were to phase Cylops and he shot an optic blast at a wall would the blast then pass through the wall?

I can see her throwing a ball that she has phased and it becomes unphased once it leaves her hand but what about an energy blast as stated above. :confused:

I would say that the same thing would go for the energy blast: once it leaves physical contact with the phased person, it unphases.

[mattbib]

I would say that the same thing would go for the energy blast: once it leaves physical contact with the phased person, it unphases.That's a great question. And I agree. It'd be awesome for Kitty and Scott to use that maneuver in a battle.

[Flight]

Can someone help and tell me what number(s) Uncanny X-Men was on when NeW Mutants, Excalibur and X-Factor started?

[Rich L]

Okay...

New Mutants #1 had a March 83 cover date, the same month that #167 of Uncanny X-Men came out (but there had been a graphic novel a while before that).

X-Factor #1 had a Feb 86 cover date, the same month as #202 of Uncanny X-Men (incidentally, Cyclops left the X-Men in #201 to live with Maddie and went straight over into X-Factor the next month on news of Jean returning)

Excalibur #1 had an October 1988 cover date, the same month as #235 & #236 of Uncanny X-Men - the first Genosha story. The teams didn't really meet up or interact at all for a while as the X-Men were believed dead at the time. And there was also an Excalibur one-shot a while before that, in 1987 but I'm not sure of the month that came out.

Hope that helps!

[Flight]

It does! Thank you very much!

[Ryan K]

Out of curiosity, was there a particular reason why Holocaust's name was changed to Nemesis? I understand why in the comic books, but was there a reason the decision was made to do that? Did Marvel get complaints about the name from the Jewish community or anything like that?

[Huzzah!]

Probably. I was never a fan of the name myself.

[Brian Cronin]

DC (Milestone) had a character named Holocaust, maybe that's why they changed it.

-Brian

[Anon_me]

The Kitty and Illyana connection was kind of explained in that they were spiritual twins or something, but beyond that...I don't know.

[Dizzy D]

DC (Milestone) had a character named Holocaust, maybe that's why they changed it.

-Brian

I think it had to do with the toy: Toybiz produced the action figure of Holocaust, but didn't want to put something called Holocaust on the racks in Toys R'Us, so they, knowing the character was called Nemesis before, called it Dark Nemesis. I would guess that Marvel wanted ..what's the word.. clearity? consistancy? on all it's characters (have the same name and basic look for cartoon, toy and comic versions) and changed the name to Nemesis again.

This is all, hear-say and probably even incorrect hear-say, but it makes a certain sense.

[Brian Cronin]

That makes as much sense as anything. :)

-Brian

[Brian Cronin]

By the by, I am such a priss.

I was gonna make some joke involving, "Oh, so is that the same reason why DC changed the name of ____-Killer?"

And I was gonna have a religious minority be in the place of the blank, but noooo...even though it was OBVIOUSLY a joke, I did not wish to offend anyone.

Such a priss...

-Brian

[Anon_me]

I'm stupid but in "She flies with angels", what exactly happened with Josh and the girl when she dragged him into the lake and drowned? How did she save him and prevent him from taking his own life?

[Grendel0606]

The Kitty and Illyana connection was kind of explained in that they were spiritual twins or something, but beyond that...I don't know.
Well, but we weren't given a reason for their being spiritual twins then ...:)

[Anon_me]

The answer is obvious. Colossus subconciously tapped into his as yet undiscovered psycho-mystical abilities to forge a link between the two people he cares about and wants to protect the most :p

I'm being facetious, btw...

[Doom Hammer]

I'm stupid but in "She flies with angels", what exactly happened with Josh and the girl when she dragged him into the lake and drowned? How did she save him and prevent him from taking his own life?

She didnt do anything. His healing factor just so happened to kick in late so it looked like he died. So basically, she went to kill herself with the body of her dead lover, who was not actually dead. Because he healed himself.

[Anon_me]

Ah...I see. Thanks, I didn't know that he had a healing factor which was the cause of the confusion.

[Ryan K]

So there were just the three X-man annuals, correct?

X-Man Annual '96
X-Man Annual '97
X-Man/Hulk Annual 1998

There was no '99 or 2000 annual right?

[Bishop_Proudstar]

She must have some control over what material she changes to, surely?

No. She doesn't actually..

[Bishop_Proudstar]

The answer is obvious. Colossus subconciously tapped into his as yet undiscovered psycho-mystical abilities to forge a link between the two people he cares about and wants to protect the most :p

Yes. Colossus is the mystic metal that prevented Magik from going over the edge to pure evil..

or

It's her manifistation of his metal through their genetics and wishing to protect her self from temptation..

[nubly]

There is some type of time-distortion going on with Savage Land's Peter (when the Savage Land was destroyed by Terminus/the Terminus' avatar the Savage Land people fled to a different dimension where time moved differently.*). He *is* Peter's son (it is so much as flat out stated in the annual)

*= Just compare it to Sarah becoming the full-grown Marrow within a years worth of comics.

EDIT: and I don't know about Mamomax, but there are a lot of posters who genuinely like Sammy.

wouldnt that apply to shanna and ka-zar's son? he should be older by now going by that explenation.

[Dizzy D]

wouldnt that apply to shanna and ka-zar's son? he should be older by now going by that explenation.

Ka-Zar and Shanna were with the Avengers and not in the dimension-rift Nereel and her people (Fall People?) escaped to.

[nubly]

what is sammy's last name?

and how did unus came back from the dead? just finished reading new x-men #132 (i think it was 132) and it showed unus in genosha. i thought this character died years ago. is it the same unus who fathered radius from alpha flight or is he a different unus?

[mattbib]

what is sammy's last name?

and how did unus came back from the dead? just finished reading new x-men #132 (i think it was 132) and it showed unus in genosha. i thought this character died years ago. is it the same unus who fathered radius from alpha flight or is he a different unus?Samuel Pare.

And Unus' return hasn't been explained other than he clearly didn't die.

[Sabre]

and how did unus came back from the dead? just finished reading new x-men #132 (i think it was 132) and it showed unus in genosha. i thought this character died years ago. is it the same unus who fathered radius from alpha flight or is he a different unus?

It's the same Unus. Years ago, after his apparent 'death', even Marvel's Official Handbooks said it wasn't clear if he was alive or dead. So my take is that he wasn't really dead---he just passed out or something (Blob, who pronounced him dead, is certainly no doctor). But no, his re-appearance hasn't been explained.

[The Fury]

OK, 2 questions:

1)In Excalibur #4 (the recent Excalibur), does anyone know (eg explained a bit in #5 , i didn't get it) why Toad didn't recognise Magneto, Unus might not have but Toad would?

2) What's up with Muir Island now that Miora is dead, anyone there etc?

[mattbib]

2) What's up with Muir Island now that Miora is dead, anyone there etc?I'm pretty sure it was just about destroyed by the end of Dream's End.

[Grendel0606]

OK, 2 questions:

1)In Excalibur #4 (the recent Excalibur), does anyone know (eg explained a bit in #5 , i didn't get it) why Toad didn't recognise Magneto, Unus might not have but Toad would?

2) What's up with Muir Island now that Miora is dead, anyone there etc?1. No explanation as such, but as MAgneto pointed out that people seem to have trouble recognizing him these days, it seems to be a plotpoint at least and not an oversight.

[Sheldon]

When will the x-men take Mammomax under their wings and help him harness his great mammothy powers?

[The Fury]

1. No explanation as such, but as MAgneto pointed out that people seem to have trouble recognizing him these days, it seems to be a plotpoint at least and not an oversight.
Yes, people have troubled recognising him, welll Unus did but Calisto, Wicked and that other kid did not, and they could be making it that Toad of all people didn't recognise him. OK then.

Thanks anyway.

[The Fury]

OK another Question.

Where was 'The World'? That place in which Weapon XV was developed and was attacked by aim, it was involved in the Story arc just before Planet X.

[Karl J. Barnes]

When will the x-men take Mammomax under their wings and help him harness his great mammothy powers?

They won't. Mammomax has decided to drop the Brotherhood and get an agent. He's trying to a sitcom on UPN called "Elephant Boy Meets World". Kind of a rip-off from "Boy Meets World", but with a twist. Mammy will be in a circus were he helps solve mysteries and make friends.

[nubly]

the stepford cuckoos. what are their names? and who are they exactly? they are 'emma's girls' but what does that mean? are they related to emma in anyway or are they just emma's students?

now that we know about the weapon plus program, how did you pronounce the x in the now cancelled weapon x series? as the letter x or the number 10?

edit:forgot one more question

in the riot at xaviers arc, it is mentioned that lilandra is proff x's wife. when did this happend?

[mattbib]

the stepford cuckoos. what are their names? and who are they exactly? they are 'emma's girls' but what does that mean? are they related to emma in anyway or are they just emma's students?

now that we know about the weapon plus program, how did you pronounce the x in the now cancelled weapon x series? as the letter x or the number 10?

edit:forgot one more question

in the riot at xaviers arc, it is mentioned that lilandra is proff x's wife. when did this happend?Celeste, Mindee and Phoebe.
Originally a group of five, their sisters Sophie and Esme died in New X-Men #137 and #150, respectively. They were called Weapon XV units 01, 03 and 04 in New X-Men #154. Assuming an alphabetical order for the numbering, that would make Esme unit 02 and Sophie unit 05. They're not related to Emma. They were just her favored students.

I still call it Weapon X, not Weapon Ten. Because the program in Weapon X was not part of the Weapon Plus program and referred to itself as Weapon X, not Weapon Ten.

I don't believe the marriage betwen Charles and Lilandra was ever depicted.

[discostu]

Silver Fox was Wolverine's love interest/possible wife. It was inferred that she had claws like wolverine(back in wolverine 50). Now, I'm not sure, but I heard that sabertooth killed her, can anyone clear that up for me? But with the emergence of x-23, now I think that x-23 isn't the first clone of wolverine. who thinks that the entire weapon x project was founded when they discovered wolverine & sabertooth, using them to try and engineer covert mutant super soilders? I think it makes sense when you consider the amount of mutants with healing abilities.

[Crimson]

I thought X-23 etc. where them trying to duplicate what they did with Wolverine.

Not a clone but you get the idea.

[Dizzy D]

Sabretooth did kill Silver Fox under the mental influence of Aldo Ferro (a telepath who used to work for Weapon X hoping that he could get a copy of their anti-aging healing factor for himself.) Ferro had a theory during the fight with the ex-Weapon-Xers that his healing factor didn't work on himself because you needed some type of mental trauma to activate it (don't ask..). He then decided to test this theory by telepathically forcing Sabretooth to kill Silver Fox in front of Wolverine.

The claws were inferred once, but never seen or even mentioned again.

[discostu]

Dizzy D, I'm going to be in amsterdam for the cc this year, nov. 20-26. any suggestions for things to do?

[Crimson]

What issues did this happen in? I was looking at the TPBs for Uncanny in the bookstore and couldn't find it. :(

[mattbib]

Uncanny X-Men #435 and 436.
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[Grendel0606]

the stepford cuckoos. what are their names? and who are in the riot at xaviers arc, it is mentioned that lilandra is proff x's wife. when did this happend?
I don't recall a marriage, however XAvier was always refered to as Lilandra's "consort". isn't that another word which can mean husband / wife (or maybe it si for a "lesser" form of union in Shi'ar society)

[Crimson]

Like I thought. Inbetween The Draco and She Lies With Angels...

What a stupid idea just to miss it out, why not just put it into one of those two and put the price up a bit more that.

GRRR! Guess I've got two comics to hunt down.

[DDM]

I don't recall a marriage, however XAvier was always refered to as Lilandra's "consort". isn't that another word which can mean husband / wife (or maybe it si for a "lesser" form of union in Shi'ar society)

Consort is another name for husband. Lilandra, for all intents & purposes, was married to Charles Xavier until recently. The Shi'ar dissolved the marriage after Cassandra Nova tore the empire asunder.

[Grendel0606]

Possibly. The thing is though that while XAvier was officially referred to as "consort" by the Shi'ar, he never referred to Lilandra as a "wife", but rather a lover. That makes me believe, that while they had some sort of sanctioned relationship, it wasn't what we would consider a marriage.

[jadegiant77]

Who or what is Shatterbox? I heard that jean grey's niece and nephew can turn into that...

[Grendel0606]

Who or what is Shatterbox? I heard that jean grey's niece and nephew can turn into that...
They displayed some pwoers and were called Shatterbox when they were kidnapped and brainwashed by Nanny and the Orphan MAker (early X-FActor).

[Sheldon]

Hey Crimson, its included in Uncanny X-men TPB # 6 Bright New Mourning.

It has UNCANNY X-MEN #435, #436, #442 and #443; and NEW X-MEN #155 and #156.

The 1st part is the trial of juggernaut, and the last few are the issues that Austen Wrote to tie together things after Planet X.

[Dizzy D]

Dizzy D, I'm going to be in amsterdam for the cc this year, nov. 20-26. any suggestions for things to do?


Apart from prostitution and drugs? :)

Seriously, I would have to look into it. My visits to Amsterdam are few and far between, but one of my friends' parents live in Amsterdam. She might have some ideas.

[The Fury]

Now I know that in 'Here Comes Tomorrow', the Cuckoo's refered to themselves as Weapon XIV (14) but was this actually ever confirmed that they were that Weapon? and if so, were they produced in 'The Wolrd' like 12, 13 and 15?

[Jack Flash]

In one of the "Where are the now" threads i saw it mentioned that Holocaust was dead. anyone have any information about this? The last time I saw him he was fighting Exodus in space and had just killed Rusty :(

[Expletive Deleted]

Now I know that in 'Here Comes Tomorrow', the Cuckoo's refered to themselves as Weapon XIV (14) but was this actually ever confirmed that they were that Weapon? and if so, were they produced in 'The Wolrd' like 12, 13 and 15?I believe that was the only time it was ever mentioned.

Although it wasn't actually in dialogue. It was more like narration. So I think we can assume Morrison was being straightforward with that one.

[Expletive Deleted]

In one of the "Where are the now" threads i saw it mentioned that Holocaust was dead. anyone have any information about this?After he came to the MU and busted up Avalon, he flunkied for Onslaught a bit, got blown up by X-Man, came back as an energy being, and got dispersed by X-Man.

I think his last appearance was in X-MAN #44.

[venuscameback]

Margali Szardos was revealed to be a member of the London Inner Circle of the Hellfire Club in Excalibur #98-100; Szardos tried to resurrect a demon under London using Douglock's head; Szardos was also the Red Queen. However, Chris Claremont, in the FF, presented Margali Szardos as a force of good--who also controlled Limbo's "stepping discs"--& ruled Limbo. Szardos helped the FF battle the NYC Inner Circle of the Hellfire Club with Mechamage (think Iron Man with magickal armor) against Selene & Blackheart. Now Szardos proclaimed herself to be the White Queen, although Selene, the Black Queen, clearly controlled the Hellfire Club even after Blackheart & she was defeated.

intriguing. what are the issue numbers for this tale?

DLW

[nubly]

in the uncanny x-men issues where havok and polaris were planning their marriage, polaris is shown speaking with her mom on her cell phone. magneto aside, i thought polaris was an orphan? there was never any mention of her having any parents or any communication with them

[DDM]

intriguing. what are the issue numbers for this tale?

DLW

Evil Margali Szardos, as the London Inner Circle of the Hellfire Club's Red Queen takes place in Excalibur #98-100

Good Margali Szardos, who proclaimed herself the NYC Inner Circle of the Hellfire Club takes place in Fantastic Four 1999 Annual:


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Margali played a prominent role in these Fantastic Four issues:

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[DDM]

in the uncanny x-men issues where havok and polaris were planning their marriage, polaris is shown speaking with her mom on her cell phone. magneto aside, i thought polaris was an orphan? there was never any mention of her having any parents or any communication with them

Polaris was speaking to her adopted mother.

[mattbib]

in the uncanny x-men issues where havok and polaris were planning their marriage, polaris is shown speaking with her mom on her cell phone. magneto aside, i thought polaris was an orphan? there was never any mention of her having any parents or any communication with themLorna had always been told that her biological parents died in a plane crash, but she was adopted by her father's sister and her husband.

[Dizzy D]

in the uncanny x-men issues where havok and polaris were planning their marriage, polaris is shown speaking with her mom on her cell phone. magneto aside, i thought polaris was an orphan? there was never any mention of her having any parents or any communication with them

Like Mattbib said, I assume it was her foster-mother she was talking to.

Re: Margali Szardos. Margali was a 'good' sorceress again in an X-men Unlimited issue that tooks place between the issues mentioned above. She still was mostly concerned with herself and her family, but she helped Nightcrawler and Amanda to defeat Belasco. (Margali's evil period in Excalibur could be explained by the Soulsword. Margali already had a history of being turned evil by powerful magical artifacts: see her appearance in Dr. Strange.)

[DDM]

Like Mattbib said, I assume it was her foster-mother she was talking to.

Re: Margali Szardos. Margali was a 'good' sorceress again in an X-men Unlimited issue that tooks place between the issues mentioned above. She still was mostly concerned with herself and her family, but she helped Nightcrawler and Amanda to defeat Belasco. (Margali's evil period in Excalibur could be explained by the Soulsword. Margali already had a history of being turned evil by powerful magical artifacts: see her appearance in Dr. Strange.)

In what issue of Dr. Strange did Margali Szardos appear?

[mattbib]

In what issue of Dr. Strange did Margali Szardos appear?57 and 58
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[DDM]

57 and 58
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Thanks. I'll put those issues in my folder Wednesday...

[Brian Cronin]

Very cool, Matt.

I've read the issues...and I had NO clue what numbers they were. :)

-Brian

[truepower]

What's the current status of these teams?

Last time I saw the marauders was in infereno

Reavers was when they killed destiny in australia

MLF-I know they fought x-force a lot and reaper was in some horrible ultraverse title for a while

Oh, and the resistants-did they ever appear after the John Walker captain america gave them a massive beatdown?

Can anybody update me?

[mattbib]

Clones of the Marauders appeared in X-Men #18, Cable '99 Annual, and Gambit (3rd Series) #9.

The Reavers, including previously dead ones, were last seen in the recent New Mutants series. Scalphunter were last seen individually in the recent Weapon X series workin for Sinister. Sabretooth was just seen in X-Men as part of the latest Brotherhood.

The MLF hasn't been seen as a group in years. Reaper was shown to have returned without explanation and he and Wildside were working together inthe recent Weapon X series but both were rendered vegetables by Cable. Stryfe returned and died. Twice. Forearm is dead. Feral is with the X-Corporation. Locus is dead. Zero was destroyed. The others (Dragoness, Tempo, Strobe, Thumbelina) haven't been see in years.

And the Resistants are no longer together. The various mutants that were Mutant Force, including Slither, showed up in New Warriors (2nd series) #6 but were apprehended and returned to prison. Peepers showed up in Wolverine still in prison, but more recently working as a waiter/busboy in Weapon X.

[Dizzy D]

Thanks Matt, like I've said often I am an absolute disaster at issues numbers.

[venuscameback]

DDM many thanks for the issue numbers & covers for the Fantastic Four issues

DLW

[Jack Flash]

A couple more questions....

Where is Brightwind?

How did ForeArm die?

When was the last time we saw Sienna Blaze?

Who was the eye patched assasin in Uncanny 450? What's her story? Can someone send me alink or detail what happened to her and how she ended up at the Mansion.

[mattbib]

A couple more questions....

Where is Brightwind?

How did ForeArm die?

When was the last time we saw Sienna Blaze?

Who was the eye patched assasin in Uncanny 450? What's her story? Can someone send me alink or detail what happened to her and how she ended up at the Mansion.Brightwind was turned black and renamed Darkwind when Dani was exiled from Asgard. Darkwind was ultimately killed by Reignfire.

Forearm was killed by Anaconda in a death match in Wolverine #167.

Siena Blaze was killed in a gas chamber at Neverland (along with Maggot, Bulwark, Ape and Tar Baby).

The girl with the eye patch isn't an assassin. Just the daughter of a family killed because of reckless mutants. She attempted to blow up a club full of mutants in X-Treme X-Men #31-32, but was stopped by Rogue and Cannonball. She's pretty much gotten past that and has been hanging out with the team ever since.

[truepower]

thanks for the update-

man, what i'd like to see is the x-men (ESPECIALLY kitty, kurt, and collosus) paying the marauders a little visit and schooling their butts-if there was ever a time when a little whuppin was justified, these guys/gals should be allowed to put a hurting on the marauders for the injuries they received

[fishtaco]

What happened to the Marauder clones?

I mean like Scalphunter is showing up in spolier>Excalibur

[Anon_me]

Brightwind was turned black and renamed Darkwind when Dani was exiled from Asgard. Darkwind was ultimately killed by Reignfire.

Was Brightwind really killed by Reignfire...for that matter, was Brightwind really Darkwind? I remember in that Reignfire arc Dani telling her father that she set Brightwind free to roam in Asgard. Was always a minor point of confusion for me. I really wish they would explain the whole Dani/Valkryie issue...maybe in Academy...

[Slayven]

i know he inherited a good chunk but was it truly enough to fund X corps? and feed all the x hanger ons

[heystacy]

He's a telepath. Might have a lot of people's account numbers at his disposal. ;)

I beleive he was describe as being a billionare. More likely he's invented, liscenced, and patened creations. With all that Shi'ar tech he's had all these years.

[Expletive Deleted]

He's the ex-husband (or whatever) of an unimaginably wealthy interstellar monarch.

I think he's covered.

[mattbib]

Plus he inherited a considerable fortune from his father.

[methanolcereal]

Didn't Worthington Industries or whatever help fund him?

[Karl J. Barnes]

He has incredible luck with the Ponies, plus, he has a lot of dirt on High Profile politicans, thus he gets alot of "grants".

[mattbib]

Actually he's a pimp. Who do you think all the ho's at the X-Ranch report to?

[Sean Whitmore]

While on the subject, where do the X-Men get money?

Do they get paychecks?

Or does Xavier give them allowances?

Forget guys like Wolverine and Gambit with professional lives outside the team. Let's say Cyclops needs a new pair of jeans. Is there an X-petty cash drawer? How degrading is it for Nightcrawler, a grown person, to go to Xavier and say "there's this pirate poster I really like..."?



SEAN

[heystacy]

Actually he's a pimp. Who do you think all the ho's at the X-Ranch report to?


ROFL!!!! Best answer of the night!!!!!

[Karl J. Barnes]

While on the subject, where do the X-Men get money?

Do they get paychecks?

Or does Xavier give them allowances?

Forget guys like Wolverine and Gambit with professional lives outside the team. Let's say Cyclops needs a new pair of jeans. Is there an X-petty cash drawer? How degrading is it for Nightcrawler, a grown person, to go to Xavier and say "there's this pirate poster I really like..."?



SEAN

I think that it is one of those questions, like do the X-men go to the bathroom? I'm sure that they are on a stipend, but it is one of those tedious answers that never come up.

[truepower]

Anybody have the lowdown on the the Phlanyx is?


I always thought there was some connection to Magus/Warlock-and one of them looked like n'astirch.

any insight?

[Taltos]

While on the subject, where do the X-Men get money?

Do they get paychecks?

Or does Xavier give them allowances?

Forget guys like Wolverine and Gambit with professional lives outside the team. Let's say Cyclops needs a new pair of jeans. Is there an X-petty cash drawer? How degrading is it for Nightcrawler, a grown person, to go to Xavier and say "there's this pirate poster I really like..."?



SEAN

good question

anyway, xavier inhereted cash, Most of the underground stuff came from the shi ar, along with the super generator deep in the earth(so no electricty bills), Warrington is rich, Sunspot is rich, Emma Frost is rich, and those who can afford to pay tuition do.

[mattbib]

You've got it... (http://www.mutanthigh.com/aliens/phalanx.html)

[Gaveedra 6]

While on the subject, where do the X-Men get money?

Do they get paychecks?

Or does Xavier give them allowances?

SEAN

In Grant Morisson's first New X-Men Annual, Wolverine wants Domino to come party with him and that he "has an Xavier Institute Faculty Gold Card" or something. It makes sense that they'd all get stipends like that.

[Sean Whitmore]

In Grant Morisson's first New X-Men Annual, Wolverine wants Domino to come party with him and that he "has an Xavier Institute Faculty Gold Card" or something. It makes sense that they'd all get stipends like that.


Oh yeah, I loved that line. It really illustrated how Morrison was finally changing things, since for the past 30-odd years, Wolverine and the others were actually thought of as students. :)


SEAN

[Dizzy D]

Apart from all the sources of money already said, Xavier also has some investors and friends in high places who donate money. (Senator St. Croix for instance. Basically there are a lot of rich people who like the idea of a mutant school and human/mutant integration.)

A lot of the advanced technology was also donated by Cable to the X-mansion.

And then there are the webcams Xavier placed in the women's showers.

[atoningunifex]

Xavier inherited a ton of money. One would assume he invested wisely. Warren is independently wealthy. Beast probably holds some patents. Jean has access to the treasure troves she and Charles stockpiled around the globe before he started the X-Men. Storm's probably getting some funding for the XSE. Emma's got her own money. Scott can mooch off of Emma. I'd imagine that Iceman does tax retruns every spring to pick up some extra cash.

Xavier probably "employs" the X-Men. When New Mutants started he gave Shan a job as his secretary so she could support her brother and sister.

[Flight]

Do you have to pay to be a student at Xavier's then?
Did the human students who were in the Generation X series have to pay to go to the same school as Paige and co?

[atoningunifex]

I don't think Xavier charges. I'm sure Emma does.

[mattbib]

I don't think Xavier charges. I'm sure Emma does.I've always imagined that Xavier charges a family based on their means. If they're able to pay something, great. If not, great.

[Slayven]

Does Cyclop get father's day cards from cable and racheal? Bet he will next year from deadpool

[Jack Flash]

I remember reading an issue where Storm is in her attic and talking to her plants and they start talking back to her. Does STorm have the ability to have full on conversations with plant life? Secondary mutation anybody?

[DDM]

I remember reading an issue where Storm is in her attic and talking to her plants and they start talking back to her. Does STorm have the ability to have full on conversations with plant life? Secondary mutation anybody?

No, the plants did not talk back to her. Ororo has explained many times that her elemental powers gives her an empathic resonance with all living things; it's an extension of her abilities to wield the elements.

[gambitsgurl]

But none of them are qualified to teach an academic course. More like trades. Xavier's Trade School for Mutants. :D Too bad Havok and Polaris don't explore more of their degrees in the X-Books. Think of the adventures they'd get into.

Kitty's so gifted, I think she could teach students plenty about computers, and programming.

you don't have to be qualified to teach in a private school.

Although you might have to have a degree in something,but that would probably depend on the schools own hiring qualifications. it is a private school which in turn could be considered a private business, so the education part of the school would not be regulated. I know a woman who had a degree in psychology and taught computer courses at a private school. I could be wrong of course, but knowing the son of the woman I just spoke about, this is the impretion he gave me.

[Anon_me]

Did the human students who were in the Generation X series have to pay to go to the same school as Paige and co?

Yes...an obscene amount. It was touted as a very posh private school.

[Ryan K]

Out of curiosity, did an incarnation of Jubilee ever pop up in any of the Earth X/Paradise X/Universe X books? I don't need to know an issue # or anything. Just curious.

And also (because I don't want to do research or start a thread on the MU board). What's the order for those 3 series.? Which one came out first/second/third?

Thanks.

[DDM]

Out of curiosity, did an incarnation of Jubilee ever pop up in any of the Earth X/Paradise X/Universe X books? I don't need to know an issue # or anything. Just curious.

And also (because I don't want to do research or start a thread on the MU board). What's the order for those 3 series.? Which one came out first/second/third?

Thanks.

Book 1: Earth X
Book 2: Universe X
Book 3: Paradise X

[DDM]

Yes...an obscene amount. It was touted as a very posh private school.

Professor Xavier's School for Gifted Youngers once was the Masschsettes Academy.

[Anon_me]

Yeah...under Emma. I always wondered...as an outsider, Emma's Massachusetts Academy always seemed more credible to me since she had human students along with her Hellions which created a larger student body whereas Xavier had at any given time, what...6 students total?

[mattbib]

The Massachusetts Academy predates Emma Frost. It existed prior to her becoming headmistress. So yeah, it is credible based on the fact that there's history there.

[Anon_me]

Ah...I wasn't aware that Emma wasn't the founder of the school. Cool...

Speaking of schools, I wonder why some of the faculty in Academy X such as Northstar, Emma, and Scott always walk around in their costumes...and why they haven't made a burqa out of unstable molecules for Dust yet.

[Dizzy D]

Out of curiosity, did an incarnation of Jubilee ever pop up in any of the Earth X/Paradise X/Universe X books? I don't need to know an issue # or anything. Just curious.

And also (because I don't want to do research or start a thread on the MU board). What's the order for those 3 series.? Which one came out first/second/third?

Thanks.

I don't think she ever showed up (I've read all of them) and if she did it was a cameo rather than a role of any real importance.

[DDM]

Yeah...under Emma. I always wondered...as an outsider, Emma's Massachusetts Academy always seemed more credible to me since she had human students along with her Hellions which created a larger student body whereas Xavier had at any given time, what...6 students total?

The Massachusettes Academy reflected the Hellfire Club: The Massachusettes Academy was a school (normal students) within a school (teen mutants taught directly by Emm Frost, the White Queen) as the Hellfire Club is a club (the Hellfire Club) within a club (the secret Inner Circle lead by its four leaders, the Lords Cardinal).

[Rich L]

Xavier inherited a ton of money. One would assume he invested wisely. Warren is independently wealthy. Beast probably holds some patents. Jean has access to the treasure troves she and Charles stockpiled around the globe before he started the X-Men. Storm's probably getting some funding for the XSE. Emma's got her own money. Scott can mooch off of Emma. I'd imagine that Iceman does tax retruns every spring to pick up some extra cash.

Xavier probably "employs" the X-Men. When New Mutants started he gave Shan a job as his secretary so she could support her brother and sister.

In addition, I'm pretty sure that Xavier got a ton of money (he certainly got a lot of technology) from Lilandra when they were dating. And he's probably making a load off merchandising now that the X-Men are public. :D

[pennywisdom]

A question I'm sure is on everybody's mind: What's up