"Post your various questions about the X-men here" thread [Archive] - Page 12

The Lucky One

03-27-2006, 10:24 PM

I wish it was consistent; either mutant siblings powers cancel each other out or they don't.

Why would it be a constant thing? I don't think it should be a guaranteed thing, any more than regular human brothers and sisters are guaranteed to have the same eye color, or hair color, or whatever. Banshee and Black Tom are only cousins, but their powers cancel each other out, plus Banshee's daughter has (almost) the same power he does... but I wouldn't want to see EVERY child of a mutant have the same power as the parent. That's boring.

-D

streator

03-27-2006, 10:55 PM

is x-men: civil war slated to begin in june or july (or later)?

Asian Knight

03-28-2006, 03:01 AM

Since the New Excalibur team has a lot of leadership potentials ie Pete Wisdom and Captain Britain. Does this mean that Kurt might join the New Excalibur team as well? I mean in order to start a relationship with his alternate timeline's daughter?

I'm curious since I don't know much about Nocturne. But has she confronted Scarlet Witch and actually called her mom?

On the UXN site, why isn't the MC2 version of Wanda on there? I mean from what I know, she (Wildside) is the daughter of Scarlet Witch and Logan right? I saw that in "Last Hero standing". I was hoping that she was Logan and Betsy's daughter.

Also one more thing puzzles me. Has it ever been revealed that when Rose first called Wolvie Logan. That a flashback of his true past occured? Or am I just second guessing myself and just thinking that the name Logan would bring back a memory that ol' Wolvie still believes is false.

When Logan was kidnapped by Apoc, what ever happened to Amiko? Or is Amiko currently under the protection of the Silver Samurai?

Stagier

03-28-2006, 05:22 AM

kurt's been taken by brubaker, so he won't be in europe anytime soon, at least nothing permenant. that's why claremont is using TJ, 'cause he can't have kurt. poor chris, does he ever get what he wants?

cable guy

03-28-2006, 07:15 AM

The Lucky One

03-28-2006, 07:20 AM

On the UXN site, why isn't the MC2 version of Wanda on there? I mean from what I know, she (Wildside) is the daughter of Scarlet Witch and Logan right? I saw that in "Last Hero standing". I was hoping that she was Logan and Betsy's daughter.

I never read MC2 (I know, I know), but IIRC, Logan's daughter was named Wild Thing, and she was the daughter of he and Elektra. Not to be confused with Tempest from the "What if... the heroes remained on the Secret Wars planet?", who was the daughter of Wolverine and Storm.

-D

streator

03-28-2006, 08:02 AM

When Logan was kidnapped by Apoc, what ever happened to Amiko? Or is Amiko currently under the protection of the Silver Samurai?
amiko was being cared for by yukio at that time.
later, amiko would be kidnapped by lady deathstrike and omega red and seemingly killed by sabretooth (sabretooth also killed wolverine who was physically dead for 20 some minutes).
amiko later reappeared at the xavier institute under mysterious circumstances; it was implied that the weapon x program brought her back to life somehow as a favor for logan.
she next (i believe) appeared in wolverine: xisle, a mini series by bruce jones and jorge lucas. as per what happened in that mini or afterwards, i am unsure.

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nubly

03-28-2006, 04:55 PM

anyone know which was wolverines last issue in marvel comics presents?

spoon_jenkins

03-29-2006, 09:50 PM

DDM

03-30-2006, 08:23 AM

X-Men: True Friends was published years after it was written, right? So where does it fit chronologically? Or does it not fit (i.e. was it contradicted by what stories actually published while it went unpublished)? Is it worth picking up?

X-Men: True Friends #1-3 is really an Excalibur story; it takes place after Excalibur #32-34 which reunites Kitty with the team. X-Men: True Friends is part of a bigger storyline with the Shadow King in Uncanny X-Men before it was radically changed by editor, Bob Harras.

Earth2Jeff

03-30-2006, 09:47 AM

Can anyone tell me what happened in the recent "End of the Greys" storyline in UXM? Much appreciated!

fishtaco

03-30-2006, 10:03 AM

Can anyone tell me what happened in the recent "End of the Greys" storyline in UXM? Much appreciated!Upon returning from England, the X-Men drop Rachel off at her grandparents (John and Elaine). They bond a little bit, and Rachel feels rather down about it because when she looks at them she remembers how she saw them die in an anti-mutant riot from her timeline. She also talks about how scared she is to have sentinels surrounding her home. She fears that the DOFP will soon be upon her new world, and that she has failed to save it from anti-mutant hysteria. She feels that Kate Pryde sacrificed herself for Rachel to live a new life for nothing. The entire Grey family comes for a reunion of sorts, and Rachel introduces herself to them. She gets along well with her family and and even shows romantic attraction towards a family friend who was also at the party. John Grey takes her to dance, but all of a sudden, he is blown to bits before her very eyes. Meanwhile, Cyclops and Emma Frost have a meeting with Val Cooper, Cecelia Reyes's brother, and another doctor about O*N*E* security. There is a lot of animosity between them. The Shi'ar Death Commandos show up and declare that under the orders of Lilandra, they are to exterminate the Grey family in order to prevent the Phoenix from bonding to one with the Grey genome. In just 24 seconds, Rachel witnesses her entire family slaughtered before her very eyes, with the exception of Elaine. The X-Men as well as the O*N*E* come in to help, but they are either defeated themselves or they are too late. In her remaining time on Earth, Elaine disowns Rachel and accuses her of bringing all of the problems and trouble to her family because of the Phoenix, the Shiar, and the X-Men. Elaine is killed by the Death Commandos. Also, the Commandos put a death mark tattoo on Rachel's back, and they declare that she could never hide from them again. The X-Men and the O*N*E* arrest the Commandos. Rachel declares to herself that she is not Phoenix, but that the Shiar will pay for what they have done, as they will wish that she is Phoenix. There were flirtations between Psylocke and Cannonball in one issue, but this is apparently a plotline that has to be dropped because Claremont is leaving. Cyclops is also emotionally distraught, because John and Elaine were part of his family, too.

Earth2Jeff

03-30-2006, 10:25 AM

Thanks, Fishtaco! :)

fishtaco

03-30-2006, 10:30 AM

Thanks, Fishtaco! :)Any time.

I just managed to find New Mutants (1st Series) #9 in a quarter bin (could you believe it?!?!?!), and I have but one question: Why was Magma immune to the poison?

And I've only taken 2 years of Latin in high school, but I'm going to have to agree with what that guy said on the letters page in New Mutants (1st Series) #21. Chris's Latin is blehh!!!!!!!

fireball87o

03-30-2006, 02:26 PM

Marty4Magik

03-30-2006, 02:31 PM

aren't the x-men suppose to face off against the Shiar soon?
is that before or after the civil war?

I wouldn't mind if the Shiar storyline saw the end of Lilandra and Chalres, and saw Deathbird claim the throne for herself.
Before Civil War... Brubakers run starts with it for 12 issues.

On your second point; Lilandra maybe (doubt it), but Charlie? No way.
Writers have been trying to do that for decades.
Besides, the timing would suck so soon after Deadly Gen.

fishtaco

03-30-2006, 02:59 PM

I wouldn't mind if the Shiar storyline saw the end of Lilandra and Chalres, and saw Deathbird claim the throne for herself.Already happened. And besides, Claremont has (sort of) been building a subplot (with a little help from Grant Morrison) about Lilandra becoming a villain and Deathbird becoming not neccessarily a hero, but an ally of the X-Men. The outlaws become the good guys and the authority becomes the bad. Claremont apparently isn't going to be able to tell this story (unless he ever has the chance to write a core X-book again), but Brubaker can still do something. The X-Men teamed up with Deathbird in Uncanny X-Men #'s 274-277.

I don't want to see the end of Lilandra, but I want to see Charles killed at the hands of the Shadow King in Uncanny X-Men #500. I definitely would not rule out Charles's death in this issue as impossible (it very well could happen), but I doubt it would be at the hands of the Shadow King. The death of Xavier would create a larger gap between the X-Men and the Shiar. :)

DDM

03-30-2006, 03:06 PM

I wouldn't mind if the Shiar storyline saw the end of Lilandra and Chalres, and saw Deathbird claim the throne for herself.

Deathbird became Shi'ar empress when she led a coup de'tat with her allies the Brood & a few renegade Shi'ar Imperial Guard including Warstar, Hussar, & Fang in Uncanny X-Men #154-157, Uncanny X-Men #161-167. Deathbrid relinquished the throne in Uncanny X-Men #277 after Deathbird helped the X-Men & Professor Xavier defeat the Warskrulls. Lilandra remained a member of the Starjammers when she was dethroned by her sister, Deathbird shown in Uncanny X-Men #174, 200, 201, 203, The New Mutants #18, 50, 51, Excalibur #17, & X-Men Special: The Starjammers #1-2.

riotgear

03-30-2006, 05:43 PM

I don't want to see the end of Lilandra, but I want to see Charles killed at the hands of the Shadow King in Uncanny X-Men #500. I definitely would not rule out Charles's death in this issue as impossible (it very well could happen), but I doubt it would be at the hands of the Shadow King. The death of Xavier would create a larger gap between the X-Men and the Shiar. :)

I would not mind that story as long as the Shadow King died permanently as well. A full-circle type of story that also explains whether or not Elias Bogan was actually the Shadow King.

DDM

03-30-2006, 05:48 PM

I would not mind that story as long as the Shadow King died permanently as well. A full-circle type of story that also explains whether or not Elias Bogan was actually the Shadow King.

The Shadow King is already dead. However, he can return to the corporeal world by consuming his victims' minds then taking over their host bodies. The Shadow King is virtually immortal for this reason.

david r

03-30-2006, 07:33 PM

Speaking about the Sh'iar, Lilandra and the X-Men, if you've been reading X-Men: The End you know that Lilandra has gone insane (thanks to Cassandra Nova) and that Storm was somehow paralyzed in a major space battle at some point. The Brood were also (believed) made extinct during this untold outer space jaunt.

After we learned that Chris Claremont was off Uncanny X-Men , I posted at Comix-Fan about whether we'd ever see this untold space epic that Claremont has hinted to in X:TE. Claremont himself posted back and said simply that he had lots and LOTS of plans for UXM leading up to #500. I took that to mean that this outer space story was in the cards for the next two years of Uncanny X-Men , if Claremont had remained on the title.

Chris also said that a new member would join in #475 that would have made Psylocke's head explode.

Damn I would have liked to have seen that space epic.

fishtaco

03-30-2006, 08:10 PM

fireball87o

03-30-2006, 10:14 PM

I don't think he should ever be killed off. He is the X-Men's ultimate threat.

What is the status of the Shadow King?
I haven't seen him for a while...since Psylocke put his ass in check back in 99/00.

I don't know if he's the ultimate threat. I do think he's a major threat, and I could go along with the statement of him being a huge threat, but a lot of readers aren't familar with him (he's not around much) and apocalypse or magneto more fit the bill in most people's minds. At least I think so, but if a writer used the Shadow King, brought up his past more, had him as a major threat looming over the Marvel Universe (or just the X-Part) THEN he'd be the ulitmate threat. I'd like to see a standoff b/w Xavier and Shadow King in XM 500!

Something great.

streator

03-30-2006, 10:36 PM

What is the status of the Shadow King?
I haven't seen him for a while...since Psylocke put his ass in check back in 99/00.

I don't know if he's the ultimate threat. I do think he's a major threat, and I could go along with the statement of him being a huge threat, but a lot of readers aren't familar with him (he's not around much) and apocalypse or magneto more fit the bill in most people's minds. At least I think so, but if a writer used the Shadow King, brought up his past more, had him as a major threat looming over the Marvel Universe (or just the X-Part) THEN he'd be the ulitmate threat. I'd like to see a standoff b/w Xavier and Shadow King in XM 500!

Something great.
the shadow king was last seen contained by rogue in the xxm annual 2001.
some people speculate he is elias bogan, but nothing is confirmed.
so, unless someone picks up on that plot the shadow king is not relevant to future stories.

Nobbel

03-30-2006, 10:56 PM

I heard Bogan was de-powered, saw that on a list...

fireball87o

03-30-2006, 11:05 PM

the shadow king was last seen contained by rogue in the xxm annual 2001.
some people speculate he is elias bogan, but nothing is confirmed.
so, unless someone picks up on that plot the shadow king is not relevant to future stories.

rogue absorbed his psyche into hers?

may be that's why she's not her old self

Kal

03-31-2006, 09:20 AM

Does Siryn know that her father is dead? If she does how did she find out and how did she react?

Earth2Jeff

03-31-2006, 10:04 AM

Does Siryn know that her father is dead? If she does how did she find out and how did she react?

Don't think so...hasn't been shown in X-Factor or Deadly Genesis yet, but who knows how these stories fit into current continuity. I'd imagine we'd be seeing her reaction soon, though.

Vegetarian Goat

03-31-2006, 11:47 AM

I just thought of something while in the shower-

If Colossus doesn't shower for a few days, and then turns to metal, do you think he gets all rusty and gross?

fishtaco

03-31-2006, 11:51 AM

What is the status of the Shadow King?
I haven't seen him for a while...since Psylocke put his ass in check back in 99/00.What Streator said.

I don't know if he's the ultimate threat. I do think he's a major threat, and I could go along with the statement of him being a huge threat, but a lot of readers aren't familar with him (he's not around much) and apocalypse or magneto more fit the bill in most people's minds.He is the ultimate threat. He is behind nearly all of the X-Men's troubles. He is the driving force of the Days of Future Past. He is the definition of everything that the X-Men fight aghainst. I'd like to see a standoff b/w Xavier and Shadow King in XM 500!Same here. I want Xavier to be killed by him. Gateway, Magneto, and Storm should take over as the X-Men's leaders.

riotgear

03-31-2006, 11:58 AM

Does Siryn know that her father is dead? If she does how did she find out and how did she react?

PAD said that would be dealt with in #7, I believe.

Kal

03-31-2006, 12:23 PM

Don't think so...hasn't been shown in X-Factor or Deadly Genesis yet, but who knows how these stories fit into current continuity. I'd imagine we'd be seeing her reaction soon, though.

PAD said that would be dealt with in #7, I believe.

Thanks :) What was their relationship like? Who's her mother?

The Lucky One

03-31-2006, 12:28 PM

Thanks :) What was their relationship like? Who's her mother?

Maeve Rourke. She was married to Banshee when he was a black ops agent, but he was off on a mission when she had a car accident (IIRC) and died. I can't remember if he never knew she'd been pregnant, or thought the baby died with her, but he didn't know about Theresa until she was grown to adulthood- Black Tom raised her.

-D

fishtaco

03-31-2006, 12:30 PM

Thanks :) What was their relationship like? Who's her mother?The Lucky One explained it, but if you want the issue, then check out X-Force (1st Series) #31. It's brilliant work by Fabian Nicieza. :)

fireball87o

03-31-2006, 02:51 PM

What Streator said.

He is the ultimate threat. He is behind nearly all of the X-Men's troubles. He is the driving force of the Days of Future Past. He is the definition of everything that the X-Men fight aghainst. Same here. I want Xavier to be killed by him. Gateway, Magneto, and Storm should take over as the X-Men's leaders.

How was the Shadow King responsible for DoFP? Did he set into play the events to kill Senator Kelly or something else?

And, yeah Xavier's death would be something to see! Magneto and Storm yeah, Cyclops and Jean, may be Emma too, sure...these people could be X-Men leaders, but Gateway? The man doesn't even talk!

DDM

03-31-2006, 03:29 PM

How was the Shadow King responsible for DoFP? Did he set into play the events to kill Senator Kelly or something else?

And, yeah Xavier's death would be something to see! Magneto and Storm yeah, Cyclops and Jean, may be Emma too, sure...these people could be X-Men leaders, but Gateway? The man doesn't even talk!

The Shadow King intesified an already bad situation & made it worse. Hints were shown in Excalibur #21-22 when her world's Shadow King had taken control of the Hellfire Club's Lords Cardinal.

Marty4Magik

04-01-2006, 01:35 AM

The great stuff that could have been..... :(

david r

04-01-2006, 07:36 AM

How was the Shadow King responsible for DoFP? Did he set into play the events to kill Senator Kelly or something else?

Fireball87o, you are aware that Chris Claremont already started the story where the Shadow King would have lead the world to the brink of DoFP? This happened in Uncanny X-Men #253-280. Senator Robert Kelly would have run for President in 1992 under an anti-mutant slogan (this was later reused in 2000's "Dream End" arc.) His mutant-slandering campaign would have been fuel to the fire for the SK.

Claremont's vision was the Shadow King was the X-Men's ultimate nemesis, not Magneto. He wanted the evil influence of the SK to completely destabilize the world and human/mutant relations. To the point that utter anarchy would be created and the SK could then reign supreme (read the SK's opening monologue in UXM #278.) Xavier and the X-Men would have faced the biggest threat ever.

Between UXM #253-280, the Shadow King gained control of Donald Pierce and the Reavers in Australia, key members of the Hellfire Club's Inner Circle (Selene, Sebastian Shaw, Emma Frost. DDM pointed this out.) He had taken possession of Valerie Cooper and was making inroads into the U.S. government. He had taken control of Moira McTaggart and was manipulating the mutants on Muir Island. He was controlling Robert Kelly behind the scenes in his racially-motivated Presidential campaign. He also would have kidnapped Gateway in Australia and was attempting to gain access to Dreamtime [see XXM Annual] . If he had been succesful in this, he would have been damn near impossible to stop.

Claremont wanted to stack the deck so heavily in the Shadow King's favor, that by the time he made his move (in the 290s of "Uncanny X-Men"), he would have been almost unstoppable. It would have taken nearly every living X-Men to stop his grand scheme. This whole ambitious subplot was leading up to UXM #300 and Xavier's sacrifice in stopping the Shadow King.

However, it would not have lead to DoFP. Claremont himself stated this in a Wizard interview conducted by Jim Lee. Claremont's plans were not meant to lead straight to DoFP. He wanted to bring the world to the brink of war between humans and mutants. But the SK's downfall in #300 would have halted the race war. However, the aftermath of the conflict (post-301) would have been very messy.

fishtaco

04-01-2006, 11:37 AM

How was the Shadow King responsible for DoFP? Did he set into play the events to kill Senator Kelly or something else?I believe that the Shadow King was the true force behind the assassination attempt on Kelly in Uncanny X-Men #'s 141-142. This is why I think the Shadow King (via his pawn, Mastermind) punished Mystique for her failure to kill Kelly in Uncanny X-Men #170.

Asian Knight

04-01-2006, 04:58 PM

DDM

04-01-2006, 05:46 PM

Does Sinister know that Shadow King exists? If he does, why doesn't he create a host body for the Shadow King. And in trade for the host body, Shadow King becomes an ally. Btw, since Sinister in AoA created the X-Man. What is Sinister's goal now that he's created the ultimate mutant?

I'm sure Mr. Sinister is aware of the Shadow King's existence, but Sinister has different goals than the Shadow King. Sinister wants to use the X-Men's DNA--specifically Jean Grey & Scott Summers--to create a powerful mutant. The Shadow King seeks to destroy the X-Men & Xavier.

About these Dark X-Men appearing in New Excalibur. Are the X-Men aware of this? Or will they soon be notified by ShadowCat and Rachel soon enough?

The Dark X-Men are still part of an ongoing plot in New Excalibur. Hopefully it will be revealed when Claremont can pick up his Hellfire Club story in the book.

Chris Johnson

04-01-2006, 06:04 PM

How many times has Wolverine "died"?

fishtaco

04-01-2006, 11:24 PM

How many times has Wolverine "died"?Hmm...

Uncanny X-Men #227
New X-Men (1st Series) 148

That's all I can think of, actually. Claremont was going to kill him (and then bring him back a year later) in X-Men (2nd Series) #4. :)

david r

04-02-2006, 08:55 AM

I remember Wolverine also "died" in the series X-Treme X-Men. It was during the "God Loves, Man Kills II" story, and I remember Cannonball screaming "Logan!" LOGAN!!!" as Wolverine died.

Affinity

04-02-2006, 09:31 AM

Didn't he die with that Agent of Hydra thing? And then brought back to life, brainwashed?

fishtaco

04-02-2006, 11:17 AM

I remember Wolverine also "died" in the series X-Treme X-Men. It was during the "God Loves, Man Kills II" story, and I remember Cannonball screaming "Logan!" LOGAN!!!" as Wolverine died.I don't think he really died. He was close, though. This was more than likely Claremont fulfilling his plot for Lady D killing Wolverine ;) Didn't he die with that Agent of Hydra thing? And then brought back to life, brainwashed?I think so, yes.

I just re-read Uncanny X-Men #267 is my neverending quest to find danglers and abandoned plots, and I was wondering if the debt between Lian Shen and Gambit was ever explained. Any suggestions or info? Thanks.

streator

04-02-2006, 12:37 PM

wolverine died in wolverine (2nd series) 175. he was physically dead for 23 minutes, but came back to life at the end of the next issue.

DDM

04-02-2006, 12:59 PM

I just re-read Uncanny X-Men #267 is my neverending quest to find danglers and abandoned plots, and I was wondering if the debt between Lian Shen and Gambit was ever explained. Any suggestions or info? Thanks.

Dr. Shen was dropped from the Shadow King storyline when Claremont left Uncanny X-Men.

Affinity

04-02-2006, 01:00 PM

What's up with Matsuo? I think that's his name. He bothered the X-Men a lot in the late 200s; fishtaco's post reminded me suddenly of him.

Who was he?

DDM

04-02-2006, 01:04 PM

What's up with Matsuo? I think that's his name. He bothered the X-Men a lot in the late 200s; fishtaco's post reminded me suddenly of him.

Who was he?

Matsuo is an emissary for the Hand. He also became part of the Upstarts. Matsuo was more formidable when written by Chris Claremont. Matsu first appears in Uncanny X-Men #255.

Brian M.

04-02-2006, 02:02 PM

Matsuo is an emissary for the Hand. He also became part of the Upstarts. Matsuo was more formidable when written by Chris Claremont. Matsu first appears in Uncanny X-Men #255.

Everyone written by Claremont was great.

streator

04-02-2006, 03:03 PM

What's up with Matsuo? I think that's his name. He bothered the X-Men a lot in the late 200s; fishtaco's post reminded me suddenly of him.

Who was he?
i believe he was last seen in wolverine (2nd series) 175.
every year since matsuo killed mariko wolverine has visited him and removed part of his body as punishment (his arm, right ear, nose and gall bladder thus far). matsuo was ready to commit suicide on the day he was expected wolverine to return again, but since wolverine was dead (as i mentioned above) wolverine never came and matsuo lived.

Affinity

04-02-2006, 07:31 PM

I was reading Uncanny X-Men #130 and Jean mentions that she's not even 25 yet and she's died, resurrected, and some other stuff already. This made me think...is this Jean the Jean Grey we know or the Phoenix Entity posing as Jean Grey? If its the latter, could someone possibly explain the entire Jean Grey /Phoenix fiasco to me? Sorry, I know this question is asked a dozen times a day, but I would really like to know. Reading the source material makes you think so much more than simply reading an UXN article.

Volk1

04-02-2006, 07:48 PM

I remember Wolverine also "died" in the series X-Treme X-Men. It was during the "God Loves, Man Kills II" story, and I remember Cannonball screaming "Logan!" LOGAN!!!" as Wolverine died.

If I can recall, at that time he was infected with nanonites. He sensed this, so he let Deathstrike stab him through the heart. He was like either dead for a such a short while or very much close it while his healing factor took care of the nanonites as well as his heart....

Gave Cannonball a scare that's for sure.... ;)

fishtaco

04-02-2006, 08:45 PM

Everyone written by Claremont was great.Well, he did create the character, after all, right? :p
Dr. Shen was dropped from the Shadow King storyline when Claremont left Uncanny X-Men.I understand that, but were any more hints given as to what the connection between Lian and Gambit is/was?

Marty4Magik

04-03-2006, 05:39 AM

Well, he did create the character, after all, right? :p I understand that, but were any more hints given as to what the connection between Lian and Gambit is/was?
Nope, Lian was never mentioned/seen again.

fishtaco

04-03-2006, 06:09 AM

Nope, Lian was never mentioned/seen again.All right. So it's a dangler, then. Thanks.

mattbib

04-03-2006, 09:46 AM

Quick question...I need issue numbers.

When was it stated that "Erik Lensherr" was just an assumed name? That it wasn't Magneto's true name?

Dizzy D

04-03-2006, 09:49 AM

Quick question...I need issue numbers.

When was it stated that "Erik Lensherr" was just an assumed name? That it wasn't Magneto's true name?

X-men #72 from a quick google.

mattbib

04-03-2006, 09:52 AM

X-men #72 from a quick google.Thanks...I needed to to shut someone down real quick.

Alio

04-04-2006, 08:30 PM

O.k. I got two random questions...

If someone can dig up their copy of uncanny 289 and look on page 17, is Storm not inked in the upper panel???? B/c in mine shes not

and

Can someone let me know what issues of X-Factor did Peter David write on his original run?

Thanks for any help

streator

04-04-2006, 08:38 PM

Can someone let me know what issues of X-Factor did Peter David write on his original run?
issues 55, 70-89, parts of annuals 5-8 as well.

bethamphetamines

04-04-2006, 10:09 PM

I just thought of something while in the shower-

If Colossus doesn't shower for a few days, and then turns to metal, do you think he gets all rusty and gross?

no, he probably oils himself up. showering would probably make him rust. unless of course he is like stainless steel.

fireball87o

04-05-2006, 02:21 PM

Dizzy D

04-05-2006, 02:35 PM

Could someone give me a quick rundown on what happened to the members of the Upstarts after causing some trouble in the early 90s?

I know Shinobi Shaw, Fenris, Sienna Blaze, Gamemaster, and others were on the team. Anyone know what's up with them?

In the New Warriors/New Mutants crossover Paige Guthrie convinced the Gamesmaster that catching and training mutants was far more exciting than killing them. After that the competition kinda died down:
- Shinobi took over the Hellfire Club until his father returned
- Fenris; Andrea got killed many moons later and Andreas currently appears in Thunderbolts.
- Gamesmaster: messed around a little with the X-men and Shatterstar, but has kinda disappeared since then.
- Graydon Creed ran for president and got killed by his mother.
- Sienna Blaze, became an Exile (2nd volume, not the current type), returned and was killed in Neverland.
- Fabian Cortez pissed off Magneto one too many times.
- Fitzroy, last time I saw him he had somehow returned from the death (Cable had tricked him into killing himself before) and was part of the Hellfire Club. He hasn't been seen in the recent appearances of the Hellfire Club.

I believe that was all of them? Funny, how nearly all the mutants they killed to receive big points all returned.

streator

04-05-2006, 03:02 PM

- Fabian Cortez pissed off Magneto one too many times.
- Fitzroy, last time I saw him he had somehow returned from the death (Cable had tricked him into killing himself before) and was part of the Hellfire Club. He hasn't been seen in the recent appearances of the Hellfire Club.
cortez was killed by magneto in magneto: dark seduction 4.
fitzroy became the chronomacer in bishop: the last x-man and was eventually ripped into half (bishop holding onto his legs, his upper torso lost to the timestream) in bishop: the last x-man 14.

Dizzy D

04-05-2006, 03:29 PM

cortez was killed by magneto in magneto: dark seduction 4.
fitzroy became the chronomacer in bishop: the last x-man and was eventually ripped into half (bishop holding onto his legs, his upper torso lost to the timestream) in bishop: the last x-man 14.

Was that the same Fitzroy or an alternate reality version?

streator

04-05-2006, 03:43 PM

Was that the same Fitzroy or an alternate reality version?
same guy. he kidnapped shard in the 616 reality and set up shop as the chronomacer in the last x-man reality. bishop followed them there and later returned to the 616 reality in bishop: the last x-man 15.

fireball87o

04-06-2006, 09:24 AM

fitzroy became the chronomacer in bishop: the last x-man and was eventually ripped into half (bishop holding onto his legs, his upper torso lost to the timestream) in bishop: the last x-man 14.

Good, I hate that bastard Fitzroy!

How and when did Andrea Strucker die?

Dizzy D

04-06-2006, 10:03 AM

Good, I hate that bastard Fitzroy!

How and when did Andrea Strucker die?

Killed by Helmut Zemo, cause she figured out that he was in Citizen V's body.

fireball87o

04-06-2006, 10:34 AM

Killed by Helmut Zemo, cause she figured out that he was in Citizen V's body.

Itsn't Helmut Zemo...Baron Zemo supposed to be Citizen V? Aren't the Thunderbolts reformed villains who are now good guys?

(sorry I haven't read more than 3 issue of T-bolts, and that was when the book was young)

Marty4Magik

04-06-2006, 10:41 AM

In the New Warriors/New Mutants crossover
Uhm, that would be New Warriors/X-force.
That was a pretty good crossover too (title was "Child's Play").
Great art on X-force by Tony Daniel (OYL Teen Titans)!

- Fitzroy, last time I saw him he had somehow returned from the death (Cable had tricked him into killing himself before)
That was in the same x-over mentioned above.

Dizzy D

04-06-2006, 11:11 AM

Itsn't Helmut Zemo...Baron Zemo supposed to be Citizen V? Aren't the Thunderbolts reformed villains who are now good guys?

(sorry I haven't read more than 3 issue of T-bolts, and that was when the book was young)

Short version: originally they were bad guys pretending to be good guys, Zemo took the disguise of Citizen V, an old enemy his father once killed. Most of the Thunderbolts went good, Zemo and some others didn't. Zemo got killed, but his spirit survived and took over the body of the real Citizen V, a grandchild of the original one.

After Zemo killed Andrea, he got his own body (an alternate version of himself) and he reformed as well. These days... he isn't really a villain, but also not a hero.

The Lucky One

04-06-2006, 11:17 AM

Itsn't Helmut Zemo...Baron Zemo supposed to be Citizen V? Aren't the Thunderbolts reformed villains who are now good guys?

Some of them, yes. Zemo himself never intended to be a good guy, using the T-Bolts as a scam to try to take over the world. It backfired when some of the other 'Bolts decided they liked being heroes better, but for a long time, he was away from the team and acting on his own. At present, he actually appears to be genuinely trying to reform (with Zemo, you never know), but he killed Andrea back in the day.

Though to be honest, he'd probably still kill her now- she WAS a villain, after all, and his idea of "heroism" is probably not exactly in line with what the Avengers, for instance, might have in mind.

-D

RH_Duncan

04-10-2006, 09:16 AM

DDM

04-10-2006, 09:21 AM

QUESTION: I know during the 6 month gap, Jean and Betsy swapped poweres, but whatever happened to Psylocke's shadowpowers she got during Crimson Dawn??? As far as I can recall she never used that power after the gap and never saw any explaination.

Psylocke's Crimson Dawn powers are tied to her lifeforce. When she was killed by Vargas in X-Treme X-Men #2, the ties between herself & the mystical Crimson Dawn were broken. Therefore, when she was resurrected in Uncanny X-Men #455, she only retains her telekinesis because she is linked to Rachel.

Psylocke's Crimson Dawn signature passed to Jean Grey when they swapped powers, but this seems to have been passed to Rachel as she was freed from Elias Bogan's possession. Speculation is Elias Bogan is the Shadow King; likewise, the Shadow King's powers were affected by the power swap as well. Which may explain Elias Bogan's powers...

fireball87o

04-10-2006, 02:44 PM

Psylocke's Crimson Dawn powers are tied to her lifeforce.

Psylocke's Crimson Dawn signature passed to Jean Grey when they swapped powers, but this seems to have been passed to Rachel as she was freed from Elias Bogan's possession. Speculation is Elias Bogan is the Shadow King; likewise, the Shadow King's powers were affected by the power swap as well. Which may explain Elias Bogan's powers...

I think the whole Crimson Dawn plotline is fading into obscurity...Spiral doesn't have her marking anymore either.

fishtaco

04-11-2006, 07:10 PM

streator

04-11-2006, 08:32 PM

Can someone post an image here of the original cover (By Larrocca) of X-Men (2nd Series) #165? The one with Emma Frost that was supposed to be a take-off on the Ghosts of Christmas? I'd like to include that image in my X-Jounral. Thanks.
this is it, right?
http://membres.lycos.fr/lesxmen2/covers/decembre04/xmen165cover_preview.jpg

edit: i know that's ethan's work, but that was the original cover for x-men 165.
are you sure you have the right issue?

Volk1

04-11-2006, 09:33 PM

If anyone could explain the significance of X-23's choker necklace, I'd be greatly obliged. :)

I think there's some connection with a Malice choker but I'm not sure if that's the same one X-23 wears or if its just part of her fashion.... :confused:

Any answers would be cool :cool:

Lawrence

04-12-2006, 08:48 AM

Ryan K

04-12-2006, 08:59 AM

With the exception of Inferno, how many mini-series, annuals, specials or crossovers are tied into Uncanny X-men between Issue 228 and 281?
Or more precisely, how many are likely to be put into the next few Essential volumes?
Is it more likely that they'll squeeze the issues between those issues in 2 volumes or 3?

Well they'll definately have to squeez in the 3 issues of New Mutants and the 3 issues of X-Factor that are part of the X-Tinction Agenda. Uncanny X-Men #270-272 make zero sense without them.

X-Factor 69-70 tie into the Muir Island Saga running through Uncanny 278-280.

I'll be curious to see if the Essential decide to include the tie ins to the Uncanny annuals. Uncanny X-Men Annual #15 is part 3 of the Kings of Pain storyline that also ran in X-Factor Annual 6, New Mutants Annual 7, and New Warriors Annual 1. And Uncanny X-Men Annual #14 was Part 1 of 4 of Days of Future Present that continued in X-Factor Annual 5, New Mutants Annual 6, and a Fantastic Four annual. Including those could take up quite a bit of space.

Other than the 4 issue X-Terminators mini that leads into Inferno, I can't think of any mini series the Essential might include. And even the X-Terminators mini probably won't be, it'd be best served in an Essential X-Factor Vol. 2.

The Lucky One

04-12-2006, 09:00 AM

fishtaco

04-12-2006, 09:29 AM

this is it, right?
http://membres.lycos.fr/lesxmen2/covers/decembre04/xmen165cover_preview.jpg

edit: i know that's ethan's work, but that was the original cover for x-men 165.
are you sure you have the right issue?Thats the one. Thanks much!

Edit: I forgot. Who drew that cover? That doesn't look like Larrocca.

steve2275

04-12-2006, 10:56 AM

no, he probably oils himself up. showering would probably make him rust. unless of course he is like stainless steel.
COLOSSUS does not rust

Lawrence

04-12-2006, 01:03 PM

Good question. Problem is, Marvel's constantly changing their minds about what goes into the Essentials. At first it was just issues of the book itself, plus annuals and specials, and that was it. Now they're doing a lot more of including guest-star appearances in other titles (Moon Knight in Marvel Two-in-One, for instance), so it's impossible to guess.

-D

Damn. I was hoping to be able to predict what were going to be in Essentials so I could work out what singles to buy. This isn't going to work... What bothers me is X-Factor/X-men crossovers. I plan on buying the X-Factor essentials as well and it seems to me that the two could repeat several issues as both need to get the story across individually. Anyone got an idea to remedy that?

The Lucky One

04-12-2006, 01:13 PM

Anyone got an idea to remedy that?

Not if you want to continue buying Essentials, no. Prior to the 80's, there weren't many crossovers, so you don't really need to worry about that. (Although both Essential Defenders vol. 1 and Essential Avengers vol. 5 reprinted all parts of the Avengers/Defenders War.) Now that Marvel's reprinting some books from the 80's, though, like X-Factor and X-Men (and New Mutants if they ever get to it), that'll inevitably continue to be the case. Basically, you either learn to live with it, or you don't.

As for the Essential X-men thing, I was surprised that they included FF vs. the X-Men (happy, but surprised) because prior minis like X-Men vs. the Micronauts and the Wolverine and Wolverine & Kitty Pryde minis weren't reprinted. (Of course, Marvel doesn't have the license for the Micronauts anymore...) Also, old issues of Marvel Team-Up where the X-Men guest-starred weren't included. On the other hand, now they even seem to be going back to prior Essentials and putting in more stuff (the new version of Essential X-Men vol. 4 will include God Loves, Man Kills), so who knows what'll happen in the future.

And they STILL should have included annual #10 in the last volume instead of this one... it takes place before the Mutant Massacre, darnit.
;)

-D

streator

04-12-2006, 01:32 PM

Thats the one. Thanks much!

Edit: I forgot. Who drew that cover? That doesn't look like Larrocca.
ethan van sciver.

Ryan K

04-12-2006, 01:53 PM

Not if you want to continue buying Essentials, no. Prior to the 80's, there weren't many crossovers, so you don't really need to worry about that. (Although both Essential Defenders vol. 1 and Essential Avengers vol. 5 reprinted all parts of the Avengers/Defenders War.) Now that Marvel's reprinting some books from the 80's, though, like X-Factor and X-Men (and New Mutants if they ever get to it), that'll inevitably continue to be the case. Basically, you either learn to live with it, or you don't.

As for the Essential X-men thing, I was surprised that they included FF vs. the X-Men (happy, but surprised) because prior minis like X-Men vs. the Micronauts and the Wolverine and Wolverine & Kitty Pryde minis weren't reprinted. (Of course, Marvel doesn't have the license for the Micronauts anymore...) Also, old issues of Marvel Team-Up where the X-Men guest-starred weren't included. On the other hand, now they even seem to be going back to prior Essentials and putting in more stuff (the new version of Essential X-Men vol. 4 will include God Loves, Man Kills), so who knows what'll happen in the future.

And they STILL should have included annual #10 in the last volume instead of this one... it takes place before the Mutant Massacre, darnit.
;)

-D

The omission that bugged me the most was the X-Men/Alpha Flight 2 issue series that preceded the Asgardian Wars storyline.

Mikl C

04-12-2006, 03:13 PM

are we talking volume 6 here? i got it yesterday 'tis awesome! i hope they do a new mutants one, the issues in this volume were amazing.

Lawrence

04-12-2006, 03:54 PM

I agree so much. The new line up and the Storm stories were so great! Can't wait for the next volume!!

EDIT: Just realized that the newest one was Vol. 7. The above comments were aimed at the latest volume.

Kal

04-12-2006, 04:26 PM

Where can I find New X-Men Vol. 2 and 3 online(apart form eBay)? I know they have limited availability(I tried Amazon)

Are there any online comic stores that accept Paypal as a method of payment AND ship internationally?

DDM

04-12-2006, 04:49 PM

The omission that bugged me the most was the X-Men/Alpha Flight 2 issue series that preceded the Asgardian Wars storyline.

Chronologically, X-Men-Alpha Flight #1-2 takes place after Uncanny X-Men #194. Loki attacks the New Mutants, mistaking them for X-Men, after Ororo returns from Africa by way of Greece after she helps the New Mutants defeat Amahle Farouk, within Karma's body, following the events in The New Mutants #29-34. The editors more than likely "forgot" to include the issues since they are the catalyst for The New Mutants Special Edition #1 & Uncanny X-Men Annual #9. I expect X-Men-Alpha Flight #1-2 to be included in a new printing at some point.

The Lucky One

04-12-2006, 10:15 PM

are we talking volume 6 here? i got it yesterday 'tis awesome! i hope they do a new mutants one, the issues in this volume were amazing.

Well, the most recent one is volume 7, which came out a week ago.

As for New Mutants, the widely suspected theory (not confirmed by Marvel) is that Bill Sienkiewicz's very stylized, abstract artwork, while stunning in color, would look like a mess in black and white. Since Bill took over as main artist on the New Mutants with issue #17, Marvel may be hesitant to do an Essential New Mutants. (Though if they included some related stuff, like the Marvel Team-Up that introduced Karma and the four-issue Magik miniseries, as well as UXM #167, they should have just enough material to take it up to the issue before Sienkiewicz started.)

-D

Beast

04-12-2006, 10:22 PM

Where can I find New X-Men Vol. 2 and 3 online(apart form eBay)? I know they have limited availability(I tried Amazon)
You mean the hardcovers? Probably not. They're OOP now. I got the last copy that popped up in stock at Amazon just recently. But Vol. 2 is a bit easier to get. Amazon.Com has it as a Special Order right now. :)

Kal

04-13-2006, 05:56 AM

You mean the hardcovers? Probably not. They're OOP now. I got the last copy that popped up in stock at Amazon just recently. But Vol. 2 is a bit easier to get. Amazon.Com has it as a Special Order right now. :)

And there's no way I could hypnotize you into selling those two to me? :p That sucks! I'll probably buy the Omnibus and sell my Vol. 1 :(

Mikl C

04-13-2006, 11:03 AM

was shaw boning sage? selene called her his "leman" which i thought was claremont's sneaky way of saying loverrrr. :D

fishtaco

04-13-2006, 11:41 AM

was shaw boning sage? selene called her his "leman" which i thought was claremont's sneaky way of saying loverrrr. :DIt's possible. While I am interested in just about every dangling plotline that Claremont has ever concieved, I'd rather this one just be left unsolved. ;)

By the way, there will be no Essential New Mutants. As the Lucky One stated, Bill's art wouldn't look so good in B&W, so they are reprinting it in Classic volumes. In fact, New Mutants Classic Volume I comes out this Wednesday. Kinda pricy, though. I wish they would include letters pages.

Bill Sienkewicz > any other artist in comic history.

Volk1

04-13-2006, 11:44 AM

It's possible. While I am interested in just about every dangling plotline that Claremont has ever concieved, I'd rather this one just be left unsolved. ;)

By the way, there will be no Essential New Mutants. As the Lucky One stated, Bill's art wouldn't look so good in B&W, so they are reprinting it in Classic volumes. In fact, New Mutants Classic Volume I comes out this Wednesday. Kinda pricy, though. I wish they would include letters pages.

Bill Sienkewicz > any other artist in comic history.

Is there a difference between Bill's art in New Mutants and his art in Moon Knight? In the Essential MK vol 1, his art is in black and white and it looks awesome. Granted, I never read them in color, so I don't know if it's really missing the color that much. Why would New Mutants be any different?

fishtaco

04-13-2006, 11:50 AM

The Lucky One

04-13-2006, 11:52 AM

Is there a difference between Bill's art in New Mutants and his art in Moon Knight?

Unfortunately, yes. (And I asked the exact same question a few months back. ;) ) MK was earlier in his career, when Bill was much more of a Neal Adams imitator; he started to refine his own style and get more abstract as MK moved along, but it was in New Mutants that he really broke out of the boundaries and was just abstract as all hell. Supposedly he took Marvel's coloring techniques of the time to their absolute limits, but that's just it- his work relies so heavily on the colors to make it work, it wouldn't be the same in b&w.

Again, this is all just stuff I've heard; I have no eye for art myself. But that's the rumor.

-D

Volk1

04-13-2006, 12:05 PM

Unfortunately, yes. (And I asked the exact same question a few months back. ;) ) MK was earlier in his career, when Bill was much more of a Neal Adams imitator; he started to refine his own style and get more abstract as MK moved along, but it was in New Mutants that he really broke out of the boundaries and was just abstract as all hell. Supposedly he took Marvel's coloring techniques of the time to their absolute limits, but that's just it- his work relies so heavily on the colors to make it work, it wouldn't be the same in b&w.

Again, this is all just stuff I've heard; I have no eye for art myself. But that's the rumor.

-D

Ahhh I see. Which makes sense too because his recent work on the Black Widow mini's really contrasts with his MK art. His MK art was more old-school, now that you mention it and his recent work was really surreal and well....complex.

If New Mutants was like it, I totally understand why it wouldn't work in b&W.

Thanks TLO.... :cool:

Dizzy D

04-13-2006, 12:57 PM

was shaw boning sage? selene called her his "leman" which i thought was claremont's sneaky way of saying loverrrr. :D

Well, that is what the word means, isn't it? He also used it to confirm Destiny and Mystique past the editors, perhaps editors don't own dictionaries.

DDM

04-13-2006, 01:37 PM

Is there a difference between Bill's art in New Mutants and his art in Moon Knight? In the Essential MK vol 1, his art is in black and white and it looks awesome. Granted, I never read them in color, so I don't know if it's really missing the color that much. Why would New Mutants be any different?

He gets more experimental in The New Mutants. Basically, Claremont plays to his strengths with the stories from The New Mutants #18-31...

The apex of his experimentation is in Epic's Elektra Assassin #1-8 with Frank Miller...

DDM

04-13-2006, 01:40 PM

was shaw boning sage? selene called her his "leman" which i thought was claremont's sneaky way of saying loverrrr. :D

I believe Tessa had a purely professional relationship with Sebastian Shaw; she was his personal assistant. She was also never officially a member of the Inner Circle of the Hellfire Club; however, since Shaw was the Hellfire Club's leader, Tessa was never far behind him.

I have read no hints into Tessa having a possible sexual relationship with Shaw.

The Lucky One

04-13-2006, 02:06 PM

I have read no hints into Tessa having a possible sexual relationship with Shaw.

True. If I ever have an assistant, she'll wear a black corset, panties, and knee-high stilettos in a purely professional capacity.

-D

TheWolfOfAsgard

04-13-2006, 02:07 PM

True. If I ever have an assistant, she'll wear a black corset, panties, and knee-high stilettos in a purely professional capacity.

-D

Well that's just because you are a gentleman.:)

zonzorp

04-13-2006, 02:09 PM

was shaw boning sage? selene called her his "leman" which i thought was claremont's sneaky way of saying loverrrr. :D
Selene is not omniscient. She assumed a relationship that did not exist.
At comixfan, CC quite forcefully stated that Shaw and Tessa did not have an intimate relationship.

DDM

04-13-2006, 02:52 PM

True. If I ever have an assistant, she'll wear a black corset, panties, and knee-high stilettos in a purely professional capacity.

-D

Hellfire Club members & staff wear a synthesis of underwear & bondage gear as uniform. Tessa assumed the uniform of the Hellfire Club.

DDM

04-13-2006, 02:56 PM

was shaw boning sage? selene called her his "leman" which i thought was claremont's sneaky way of saying loverrrr. :D

On the other hand, Emma Frost had some kind of sexual relationship with Sebastian Shaw when both held leadership ranks within the Inner Circle of the Hellfire Club as the White Queen & Black King, respectfully. The White Queen kissed Shaw's lips in Uncanny X-Men #182(?) when she sent an astral projection of herself to Shaw to let him know she had captured Kitty Pryde & Xavier's New Mutants. Nothing more was said, but hints were given Shaw & Frost were sexually involved with one another...

The Lucky One

04-13-2006, 03:11 PM

Hellfire Club members & staff wear a synthesis of underwear & bondage gear as uniform. Tessa assumed the uniform of the Hellfire Club.

Oh, that's good to know; I thought it was just her...

-D

streator

04-13-2006, 03:38 PM

i remember around revolution when the redesigns were released, psylocke's was said to resemble a video game heroine's, but i could never place it. what video game character were they referring to?
http://www.uncannyxmen.net/images/costume/psylocke-bigcostume7.jpg

The Lucky One

04-13-2006, 03:50 PM

Kal

04-13-2006, 08:26 PM

Hmm I know this is weird.........can anyone tell me the weight of the Ultimate X-Men Vol. 1 tpb?

Thanks a lot!!! :)

fireball87o

04-16-2006, 08:05 PM

What's the status of Anya (i think that's her name), Quicksilver and Crystals kid/Magneto's grandaughter? Is she hooking up with Franklin Richards yet or what?

Hi-Fi

04-16-2006, 08:06 PM

What's the status of Anya (i think that's her name), Quicksilver and Crystals kid/Magneto's grandaughter? Is she hooking up with Franklin Richards yet or what?

Luna is currently appearing in the great Son of M mini. :)

fireball87o

04-16-2006, 08:14 PM

Luna is currently appearing in the great Son of M mini. :)

Thx for the quick feedback. But wasn't there an Anya in Magneto's life...may be it was his wife's name

xakko

04-16-2006, 08:18 PM

Thx for the quick feedback. But wasn't there an Anya in Magneto's life...may be it was his wife's name
Anya was his first daughter, who perished in a fire

Magneto was prevented by the villagers from saving her. He killed them, his wife Magda fled, pregnant with Pietro and Wanda

The Lucky One

04-16-2006, 08:19 PM

Thx for the quick feedback. But wasn't there an Anya in Magneto's life...may be it was his wife's name

Anya was his little girl; she died in a fire because Magnus was attacked by thugs, and thus unable to use his newly-awakened powers to save her. He then flew into a rage and slaughtered them, causing his wife Magda (pregnant with Pietro and Wanda) to flee, never to return to him.

EDIT: D'oh! xakko beat me.

-D

fireball87o

04-16-2006, 11:03 PM

Anya was his first daughter, who perished in a fire

Magneto was prevented by the villagers from saving her. He killed them, his wife Magda fled, pregnant with Pietro and Wanda

i knew i was on to some father daughter connection. that name triggered a memory bug. also, what a shame. without anya i bet the x-world would be a whole lot different. forgotten little child of the past

:: ~ plays the world's smallest violin ~ ::

Sandy Hausler

04-17-2006, 05:41 AM

What's the status of Anya (i think that's her name), Quicksilver and Crystals kid/Magneto's grandaughter? Is she hooking up with Franklin Richards yet or what?

Her name is Luna. Check out Son of M for her status. She's been appearing regularly in that book.

Sandy Hausler

Zombienorthstar

04-17-2006, 05:48 AM

fishtaco

04-17-2006, 06:10 AM

Anya is Quicksilver and the Scarlet Witchs sister who died with Magda his wife.
She was the reason that Magneto turned against humanity.

I think your getting her name confused with Luna Quicksilvers daughter....Anya was Pietro and Wanda's half-sister. Magneto turned against humanity for a great number of reasons, including the death of Anya. It was Anya's death that caused Magneto to hate the Russian government. Had Anya never died while Magneto was being held down so he couldn't save her, he likely would not have sunk the Leningrad in Uncanny X-Men #150. Magneto also became a villain because of the death of Isabelle in Classic X-Men #19, because of the horrors he faced in the holocaust, and quite likely because his hatred and rage was fueled into more than rhetoric by the Shadow King, as possibly seen in Uncanny X-Men #275. I believe that the Shadow King planted Mastermind in his original Brotherhood of Evil Mutants to make sure that Magneto and Xavier stay enemies, because combined, the Shadow King sees them as a threat...

Zombienorthstar

04-17-2006, 06:39 AM

Well i was just giving the short version :D

R Krippler

04-18-2006, 09:31 PM

I have the first 4 Vols of Xtreme X-men, are the other volumes worth my money

Marty4Magik

04-19-2006, 12:16 PM

I'd say get at least the Mekanix trade (vol 6 IIRC)....it's an amazing read.
For the rest: if you like vol 1-4...you must get the rest.

The worst of X-treme was IMHO Storm: Arena....didn't like that at all. But that might be because I don't really like Storm that much....

fishtaco

04-19-2006, 06:17 PM

I have the first 4 Vols of Xtreme X-men, are the other volumes worth my moneyPrisoner of Fire rocked.

Katie

04-20-2006, 03:21 AM

Anya was Pietro and Wanda's half-sister.

Anya is not their half-sister, she had the same mother and father that Pietro and Wanda had.

Zombienorthstar

04-20-2006, 03:57 AM

Then how come Mags didnt know abotu wanda and pietro?

Sabre

04-20-2006, 04:02 AM

Then how come Mags didnt know abotu wanda and pietro?

Magda (his wife) was pregnant when she fled from him after the fire that killed Anya and caused his subsequent rampage. He never knew she was pregnant.

Katie

04-20-2006, 04:07 AM

Anya is their older sister. "Half-sister" would means that they Anya and the twins only share one parent. Anya and the twins have the same mom and dad, she's just older than them.

DDM

04-20-2006, 08:38 AM

Then how come Mags didnt know abotu wanda and pietro?

Magda's birth is shown in Avengers #185-187. She gave birth to twins who would become the Scarlet Witch & Quicksilver. Bova was the mid-wife. The High Evolutionary gave the children to the Maximoffs to raise as their own because they had no place on Wundagore Mountain. Magda left Wundagore Mountain never to be seen again.

For years, Magneto's first child was not named. Anya's first & final appearance is Classic X-Men #12.

Magneto first discovered the Scarlet Witch & Quicksilver are his biological children in The Vision & Scarlet Witch #1-4. He is even present when she gave birth to her two children in The Vision & Scarlet Witch #12(second series). At this time, Magneto had reformed & was leading the X-Men with Storm.

Citizen V

04-20-2006, 07:49 PM

Ive been looking for the TPB`s X-Men:The Comming Of Bishop and Bishop:The Mountjoy crisis.I havent found them,i heard they were out of print.But is there any place that does sell them still?

wtnrradio

04-23-2006, 07:43 PM

mattbib

04-23-2006, 08:03 PM

what up people....I have a few questions:

1.I was reading Uncanny X-men around the time psylocke came back (new "sexy" outfit) ,during "acts of vengence".It's been a while ,but I started reading again and put together that she died again?and was brought back? when and how did this happen?Betsy was killed by Vargas in X-Treme X-Men #2-3.

She appeared alive again in the place of her death (Valencia, Spain) a year later (comic time) in Uncann X-Men #455.

It was just confirmed in the latest issue of Uncanny that it was Betsy's brother, Jamie, who pulled Betsy's spirit and resurrected her.

You can read some of the details here (http://uncannyxmen.net/db/spotlight/showquestion.asp?faq=10&fldAuto=53&page=6).

2. What is APOCALYPSE mutant ability exactly.Check out the OHOTMU entry (http://www.marvel.com/universe/Apocalypse) at Marvel.com.

streator

04-23-2006, 08:07 PM

What is APOCALYPSE mutant ability exactly.
according to www.uncannyxmen.net:
metahuman strength, speed, endurance, and reflexes, megamorphic power allows him to assume any human form, grow to tremendous size, or reshape his body composition at will, discharge concussive plasma blasts, teleportation, absorb outside sources of power to increase his own abilites, techno-organic virus allows him to regenerate from a single drop of blood if necessary

http://www.uncannyxmen.net/db/characters/showquestion.asp?faq=46&fldAuto=180

Dizzy D

04-24-2006, 05:13 AM

2. What is APOCALYPSE mutant ability exactly.

Got alot more,just can't think of them now....i will return....

Before Apocalypse enhanced himself with technology, he basically had superhuman strength, shapeshifting and immortality. The technological enhancements enhanced that shapeshifting ability and gave him the other powers streator posted.

mattbib

04-24-2006, 08:35 AM

Before Apocalypse enhanced himself with technology, he basically had superhuman strength, shapeshifting and immortality. The technological enhancements enhanced that shapeshifting ability and gave him the other powers streator posted.According to Marvel shapeshifting isn't part of his mutation:

His bio-armor, which is of Celestial origin, allows him to alter the atomic structure of his body and change his shape at will, as well as to increase his size by taking on additional mass from an extra-dimensional source. Through his shape-shifting ability, Apocalypse can give himself virtually any physical power. Apocalypse can also levitate by means of telekinesis.

Also, regarding his immortality, do we know how long Apocalypse lived before gaining access to the Celestial technology? And how much of his "immortality" is actually a result of his transferrings his consciousness and powers into new host bodies (not to mention what was revealed in the most recent issue of Cable & Deadpool)?

Dizzy D

04-24-2006, 10:40 AM

According to Marvel shapeshifting isn't part of his mutation:

His bio-armor, which is of Celestial origin, allows him to alter the atomic structure of his body and change his shape at will, as well as to increase his size by taking on additional mass from an extra-dimensional source. Through his shape-shifting ability, Apocalypse can give himself virtually any physical power. Apocalypse can also levitate by means of telekinesis.

Also, regarding his immortality, do we know how long Apocalypse lived before gaining access to the Celestial technology? And how much of his "immortality" is actually a result of his transferrings his consciousness and powers into new host bodies (not to mention what was revealed in the most recent issue of Cable & Deadpool)?

He was shapeshifting in Rise of the Apocalypse (growing bigger and stronger than a giant snake to fight it), which took place before he enhanced himself. After enhancements his shapeshifting was enhanced as well, now he could form devices from his own body and imitate others, but limited shapeshifting was part of his powers before.

He lived from ~3000 BC to ~1200 AD (though I have noted in my C&D recaps that it might have been a typo in X-force #37 and should have been 1200 BC as all characters are talking about thousands of years ago when Apocalypse discovered the ship) before he discovered the Celestial Ship. That's long enough for me to file under "immortal". Taking host bodies seems to require the T.O. virus to turn the host body into a copy of his original one.

wtnrradio

04-24-2006, 10:58 AM

Thank you all, for the info...

JuanJohnboy

04-24-2006, 03:35 PM

where can i find like a summary for the X-men: The End plot/story? i kinda stopped reading x-men comics a while ago but that story looks interesting :o.

Sharcque

04-25-2006, 04:27 AM

Dizzy D

04-25-2006, 04:34 AM

Ok....I'm behind on reading, getting caught up tonight. I'm reading X-Men 178 right now.

- Who is Gazer? Where's he from? Powers (before Decimation)?
- who's the Phantom Torso? Where'd he come from?

Gazer was an astronaut appearing in one of Milligan's first issues. His mutant power was that he absorbed radiation as food, making him the perfect astronaut.

Peeper aka Peepers aka Occult has quite a bit of history. He was one of Magneto's Brotherhood back in the 70s, then this version of Brotherhood got turned into Mutant Force. He has fought Captain America, the Defenders, Freedom Force and the New Warriors. He also appeared in Tieri's Wolverine were he was sent to prison and became friends with Wolverine and Beast.

Outlaw is indeed from Deadpool and later Agent X. She's Agent X's girlfriend.

mattbib

04-25-2006, 07:18 AM

where can i find like a summary for the X-men: The End plot/story? i kinda stopped reading x-men comics a while ago but that story looks interesting :o.You can find issue summaries here (http://uncannyxmen.net/db/issues/).

streator

04-25-2006, 07:27 AM

who's the Phantom Torso? Where'd he come from?
i remember reading that phantom torso was in fact not a person but just something that gazer talked to becauce he was lonely. gazer was just talking to himself the whole time.

Tommy

04-27-2006, 05:19 PM

Was there ever an issue where Iceman admited to liking Jean Grey/Thinking she was hot?

DDM

04-27-2006, 05:45 PM

Was there ever an issue where Iceman admited to liking Jean Grey/Thinking she was hot?

Of the original X-Men, Iceman is the youngest; he still believed girls were icky. Warren Worthington III has had a crush on Jean Grey for years, although he could have had any woman in the world which was touched upon in Uncanny X-Men #132 & X-Factor #10. Given Candy Southern's response, she believed Angel was having an affair with Marvel Girl, but this is not true. Iceman had a crush on Lorna Dane. However, she eventually started a long term relationship with Alex Summers, Havok instead of Iceman. Or to answer you question more directly, no, Bobby has never thought Jean was "hot."

Haunt

04-27-2006, 05:51 PM

Of the original X-Men, Iceman is the youngest; he still believed girls were icky. Warren Worthington III has had a crush on Jean Grey for years, although he could have had any woman in the world which was touched upon in Uncanny X-Men #132 & X-Factor #10. Given Candy Southern's response, she believed Angel was having an affair with Marvel Girl, but this is not true. Iceman had a crush on Lorna Dane. However, she eventually started a long term relationship with Alex Summers, Havok instead of Iceman. Or to answer you question more directly, no, Bobby has never thought Jean was "hot."

strangely enough, he was the only marvel male to not find the Enchantress attractive, as well. not that there's anything wrong with that.

Lorendiac

04-27-2006, 05:56 PM

Ive been looking for the TPB`s X-Men:The Comming Of Bishop and Bishop:The Mountjoy crisis.I havent found them,i heard they were out of print.But is there any place that does sell them still?

Amazon.com has "Bishop: The Mountjoy Crisis" here (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0785101918/ref=sr_11_1/002-6172018-3054425?%5Fencoding=UTF8[/url)

and "The Coming of Bishop" here (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0785100997/ref=sr_11_1/002-6172018-3054425?%5Fencoding=UTF8)

fireball87o

04-27-2006, 07:21 PM

strangely enough, he was the only marvel male to not find the Enchantress attractive, as well. not that there's anything wrong with that.

when did this happen?

streator

04-27-2006, 07:22 PM

d'ken was lilandra's brother, right?

fireball87o

04-27-2006, 07:26 PM

d'ken was lilandra's brother, right?

correct. he was evil, much like Deathbird

xakko

04-27-2006, 07:32 PM

correct. he was evil, much like Deathbird
i believe the term was "insane".

tho' he may have been merely evil with he murdered Katherine Summers

fireball87o

04-27-2006, 07:36 PM

i believe the term was "insane".

tho' he may have been merely evil with he murdered Katherine Summers

it's a fine line

xakko

04-27-2006, 09:13 PM

it's a fine line
when he was trying to destroy the universe- that's a tad more than a hop, skip and Blackbird flight over that line.

Uncle Nobs

04-28-2006, 04:30 AM

Where's Warlock these days?

streator

04-28-2006, 07:56 AM

Where's Warlock these days?
warlock has not been seen since the last issue of his failed ongoing series in 2000. i thought that it was a good title, personally.

The Lucky One

04-28-2006, 08:19 AM

i thought that it was a good title, personally.

Me too. For a while afterward, there were rumors of a sort of "non-mutant" embargo in the X-Titles, where anything too far removed from the main concept of human mutants fighting oppressions (like Warlock, Longshot, anything from Excalibur, etc.) wasn't allowed to be used anymore, but they've probably loosened up on that by now.

-D

DDM

04-28-2006, 09:27 AM

when he was trying to destroy the universe- that's a tad more than a hop, skip and Blackbird flight over that line.

D'Ken was trying to tap into the mysterious power of the M'Krann Crystal, but he ignores the legends that say the force would destroy the universe. D'Ken went mad when he was confronted with his own fears inside the crystal & remains catatonic to this day. The "force" turned out to be the Neutron Galaxy beyond D'Ken's control.

Uncle Nobs

04-29-2006, 10:02 PM

Me too. For a while afterward, there were rumors of a sort of "non-mutant" embargo in the X-Titles, where anything too far removed from the main concept of human mutants fighting oppressions (like Warlock, Longshot, anything from Excalibur, etc.) wasn't allowed to be used anymore, but they've probably loosened up on that by now.

-D
Makes sense. They definitely tried taking things in that direction toward late 2000. Things had gotten kind of messy. Most of us on the boards were screaming, "No more space crap! Tell a story that relates to the friggin' concept!" And Marvel straight-up clowned themselves when they didn't have a decent jumping-on point for people who'd seen the new movie.

Then Grant Morrison reminded us that a space epic could be done without losing the focus of the series, but that was a bit into his run, around 2002-ish. It's been open season ever since.

...which just brings me back to whining for Warlock, Longshot, and Illyana to return. :D

Uncle Nobs

04-29-2006, 10:05 PM

Why has Toad changed so much? I know it was Marvel's attempt to make him seem more like the movie version, but what was the canon explanation for it?

Marty4Magik

04-30-2006, 07:26 AM

Why has Toad changed so much? I know it was Marvel's attempt to make him seem more like the movie version, but what was the canon explanation for it?
Nope, they just changed him.

Uncle Nobs

04-30-2006, 10:09 AM

Nope, they just changed him.
I heard there was an explanation for it in the X-Men Forever miniseries. Anyone?

CMBMOOL

04-30-2006, 10:14 AM

How old are Colossus and Shadowcat now in Astonshing X-men ? :(

Zombienorthstar

04-30-2006, 10:17 AM

How old are Colossus and Shadowcat now in Astonshing X-men ? :(

Kitty is about 23....Collossus is about 26

Uncle Nobs

04-30-2006, 10:26 AM

Kitty is about 23....Collossus is about 26
I disagree. Kitty's age is often a topic of debate. Most estimates place her around 18 or 19 these days. She's always been mature for her age. The fact that she bartended in Chicago means very little because alcohol laws could be different in the 616 Chicago.

Most fans estimate Peter to have been 18 when he joined the X-Men, and Kitty was 13 when she joined. That puts Petey at 23 or 24 now.

(I'm sure The Lucky One, mattbib, or DDM can step in here and correct me if I'm wrong.)

Sentinel K

04-30-2006, 10:34 AM

I disagree. Kitty's age is often a topic of debate. Most estimates place her around 18 or 19 these days. She's always been mature for her age. The fact that she bartended in Chicago means very little because alcohol laws could be different in the 616 Chicago.

Most fans estimate Peter to have been 18 when he joined the X-Men, and Kitty was 13 when she joined. That puts Petey at 23 or 24 now.

(I'm sure The Lucky One, mattbib, or DDM can step in here and correct me if I'm wrong.)

I'd say Kitty is 20 and Petey is 24/25

Zombienorthstar

04-30-2006, 10:34 AM

Sentinel K

04-30-2006, 10:40 AM

Impossible...Rahyne is 19 (stated in New Xmen)....Rahyne is two years younger than Cannonball..kitty is a couple of years older than all of them

That doesn't mean anything. The ages aren't really very consistent with each other. Kitty is DEFINATELY no older than 21.

Zombienorthstar

04-30-2006, 10:42 AM

That doesn't mean anything. The ages aren't really very consistent with each other. Kitty is DEFINATELY no older than 21.

But she must be...to keep the right age gap between rahne and the other new mutants...why cant she be over 21??

Sentinel K

04-30-2006, 10:46 AM

But she must be...to keep the right age gap between rahne and the other new mutants...why cant she be over 21??

The editors and writers don't tend to check up on stuff like this, so just 'cos a writer says Rahne is 19, doesn't mean she actually is.

I think similar problems crop up with the Guthrie kids. How many are there? How old are they? What are there names. Depending on the writer, the answers to those questions differ wildly.

Zombienorthstar

04-30-2006, 10:49 AM

The editors and writers don't tend to check up on stuff like this, so just 'cos a writer says Rahne is 19, doesn't mean she actually is.

I think similar problems crop up with the Guthrie kids. How many are there? How old are they? What are there names. Depending on the writer, the answers to those questions differ wildly.

I know the Guthrie kids

there is: Sam, Jay, Paige, Elizabeth, Melody, Joelle, Jeb, Lewis and Lewis's unnamed female twin.

That at present is all the Guthrie kids.

fireball87o

04-30-2006, 10:49 AM

Kitty is about 23....Collossus is about 26
i know marveltime is a messy, but isn't Kitty around 21

on a side note, isn't Rogue around this age as well?

edit: wow, people post fast. haha

spoon_jenkins

04-30-2006, 10:50 AM

Impossible...Rahyne is 19 (stated in New Xmen)....Rahyne is two years younger than Cannonball..kitty is a couple of years older than all of them
I don't think that's right. I thought it was established in the early days of the New Mutants that even though Kitty was on the adult team, some of the New Mutants were older than her.

Remember Kitty had a birthday while she was in space (during the Brood storyline). I think that was her 15th, but I'm not sure. I seem to recall in the early days of the New Mutants (around the same time) that it was mentioned that Karma was 19. There may have been a reference to Cannonball being 17. He was even working in a coal mine in the New Mutants GN. So I think Kitty is younger than some of New Mutants (but probably older than Rahne). I also think earlier stories might've a more than 2 year gap between Rahne and Sam.

Zombienorthstar

04-30-2006, 10:52 AM

At the start of new mutants there ages were shwon on a screen.
Rahne: 13
Berto: 15
Sam: 16
Xi'an: 19

Sentinel K

04-30-2006, 10:54 AM

At the start of new mutants there ages were shwon on a screen.
Rahne: 13
Berto: 15
Sam: 16
Xi'an: 19

This would make Sam older than Kitty then. I think. Maybe eveb Berto too.

It would make Rahne older than 19 tho. I think. :confused:

Zombienorthstar

04-30-2006, 10:59 AM

This would make Sam older than Kitty then. I think. Maybe eveb Berto too.

It would make Rahne older than 19 tho. I think. :confused:

well she was 19 at the end of the choosing sides arc...i think a years supposed to have passed since then in the marvel u
becuase they has an annual field day again,

streator

04-30-2006, 11:00 AM

Why has Toad changed so much? I know it was Marvel's attempt to make him seem more like the movie version, but what was the canon explanation for it?
toad was injured and taken to a medical bay.
prosh (formerly the professor and ship) was able to "fix toad's genetic makeup, giving him enhanced powers and a new appearance".
this also altered mystique by accident as well.

http://www.uncannyxmen.net/db/issues/showquestion.asp?fldAuto=770

Uncle Nobs

04-30-2006, 11:11 AM

Thanks, streator!

Zombienorthstar

04-30-2006, 11:15 AM

toad was injured and taken to a medical bay.
prosh (formerly the professor and ship) was able to "fix toad's genetic makeup, giving him enhanced powers and a new appearance".
this also altered mystique by accident as well.

http://www.uncannyxmen.net/db/issues/showquestion.asp?fldAuto=770

it was a cynical attempt to make em like the movie right?

fireball87o

04-30-2006, 11:46 AM

toad was injured and taken to a medical bay.
prosh (formerly the professor and ship) was able to "fix toad's genetic makeup, giving him enhanced powers and a new appearance".
this also altered mystique by accident as well.

http://www.uncannyxmen.net/db/issues/showquestion.asp?fldAuto=770

Is Prosh rock-like? What happened to his ship persona?

streator

04-30-2006, 12:16 PM

Is Prosh rock-like? What happened to his ship persona?

http://www.uncannyxmen.net/db/characters/showquestion.asp?fldAuto=821

zombienorthstar: yes

mattbib

04-30-2006, 02:28 PM

This would make Sam older than Kitty then. I think. Maybe eveb Berto too.

It would make Rahne older than 19 tho. I think. :confused:Sam IS older than Kitty...Dani and Magma too IIRC.

frogjitsu

04-30-2006, 04:00 PM

does anybody know if Archangel is joining any of the x-men teams any time soon?

The Lucky One

04-30-2006, 09:03 PM

Sam IS older than Kitty...Dani and Magma too IIRC.

Yeah. Magik is just a bit older than Kitty... I think she was mentioned as turning 15 right before she joined the New Mutants, and Magma was 15 at the time too, I think. Sam and Dani were both 16-17 when they joined the team, Bobby was 15, Rahne was 13. Rahne and Kitty are about the same age, with Kitty maybe a year older. Nowadays, Kitty's about 20, Rahne is 19 or so.

-D

streator

04-30-2006, 09:58 PM

does anybody know if Archangel is joining any of the x-men teams any time soon?
as far as i know there are no plans for warren joining any of the core teams in the next few months.

Xany Kaos

04-30-2006, 10:06 PM

*ack, sorry, wrong forum*

ocelotrevs

05-03-2006, 04:19 AM

I was just wondering if Cable has ever been shown smoking?
Thank you.

Dizzy D

05-03-2006, 04:34 AM

I was just wondering if Cable has ever been shown smoking?
Thank you.

He doesn't smoke. In his homebase Greymalkin a fire-extinguisher even activates whenever Wolverine tried to smoke, putting out the cigar.

Marty4Magik

05-03-2006, 11:00 AM

Yeah....cool scene too.

But didn't he smoke a pipe at the end of the New Mutants run?

Don't know the exact issue, but it's either 99 or 100....the scene is where Sam confronts Cable in the library...

:confused:

Uncle Nobs

05-05-2006, 03:13 PM

streator

05-05-2006, 03:20 PM

What's up with Christopher Nord, a.k.a. Agent Zero, a.k.a. Maverick? His power used to be short-term precognition, just enough to anticipate opponents' moves a second or two before they acted.

Now UncannyXMen.net lists him as having "corrosive energy blasts" and "no discernable scent". The rest is just about his weapons and costume. What's up?
that precognition bit was only listed on the back of a trading card, if i remember correctly.
his original mutant power was absorbing the kinetic energy of impacts.
he was suffering from the legacy virus and after maverick 1 when he "died" and was brought back he developed the ability to rechannel that kinetic energy and expel it as blasts.
i think the not having a scent comes from weapon x.

regardless, i'm pretty sure that i saw him among the depowered lists here on the boards.

http://www.mutanthigh.com/weaponzero.html

edit further:
http://www.comixfan.com/xfan/forums/printthread.php?t=5835

monolith (see comments) is pretty much ddm+. he's right about maverick never having precog abilities.

Dizzy D

05-05-2006, 03:31 PM

that precognition bit was only listed on the back of a trading card, if i remember correctly.
his original mutant power was absorbing the kinetic energy of impacts.
he was suffering from the legacy virus and after maverick 1 when he "died" and was brought back he developed the ability to rechannel that kinetic energy and expel it as blasts.
i think the not having a scent comes from weapon x.

regardless, i'm pretty sure that i saw him among the depowered lists here on the boards.

http://www.mutanthigh.com/weaponzero.html

The no scent was Weapon X's treatment to make him the perfect assassin to take out Wolverine (and by extension Sabretooth), they also added a corrosive enzyme to his blasts that reacted with his victim's healing factor, turning it against him.

Uncle Nobs

05-05-2006, 07:07 PM

That's just gross.

Zombienorthstar

05-06-2006, 06:49 AM

What is the status of the Mutant X world? And Havoks kinda son Scotty?

JamesCole120

05-06-2006, 11:43 AM

whats better uncanny x-men or atonishing x-men

Sentinel K

05-06-2006, 11:48 AM

whats better uncanny x-men or atonishing x-men

To be honest that is a pretty dumb question.

Only you can answer that.

You'll get people telling you one thing, and others telling you something different.

And most people use question marks when asking questions.

Young Avenger

05-06-2006, 01:08 PM

Flight

05-06-2006, 01:10 PM

What is the status of the Mutant X world? And Havoks kinda son Scotty? The status is: LAME!

fireball87o

05-06-2006, 01:42 PM

I have two questions

1. Where does Wolverine live? In New Avengers and the Spider-Man books he lives in Stark's Tower with the rest of the team. In the X-books he stays in the X-mansion. Which is it?

2. Has his status as an Avenger ever be mentioned in the X-books?

In one X-issue (not sure which) they said Wolvie was away on a mission or business. Vague, but, that's what you get

Sentinel K

05-06-2006, 01:47 PM

The status is: LAME!

You're lame.

Uncle Nobs

05-06-2006, 01:52 PM

whats better uncanny x-men or atonishing x-men
Astonishing is better, but it still can't save you from the Army of the Twelve Monkeys.

Weapon Ick

05-06-2006, 05:56 PM

DDM

05-06-2006, 07:18 PM

Can Empath use his powers on himself so that he can stay completely calm during battle? Has he ever lost control of his emotions? Can he get himself high and perhaps end up getting addicted to himself?

Empath can't use his powers on himself. He also cannot use his powers if his potential victims suffer some kind of trauma; for instance, his powers are useless in The New Mutants #39 because the kids suffer severe psychic shock of remembering being erased then put back together again.

Empath uses people as objects; he's a psychopath. Yes, he gets off using people. It's why Emma Frost, as the White Queen, thought Empath would be a perfect candidate for the Inner Circle of the Hellfire Club.

Zombienorthstar

05-07-2006, 07:35 AM

Empath uses people as objects; he's a psychopath. Yes, he gets off using people. It's why Emma Frost, as the White Queen, thought Empath would be a perfect candidate for the Inner Circle of the Hellfire Club.

But gorwing up with that sort of power and that sort of encouragement i can see how it could be easy to fall into that behaviour pattern.

I mean wed all like to think we would take Xavier's i dont mess with free will approach...but if you had mental powers and there was something you desperatley wanted...who knows what would happen.

Dizzy D

05-07-2006, 07:52 AM

Empath can't use his powers on himself. He also cannot use his powers if his potential victims suffer some kind of trauma; for instance, his powers are useless in The New Mutants #39 because the kids suffer severe psychic shock of remembering being erased then put back together again.

Empath uses people as objects; he's a psychopath. Yes, he gets off using people. It's why Emma Frost, as the White Queen, thought Empath would be a perfect candidate for the Inner Circle of the Hellfire Club.

He's not. He has a lot of mental problems, but classification as a psychopath comes with a lot more chaarcteristics than manipulative and remorseless behaviour.

DDM

05-07-2006, 08:55 AM

He's not. He has a lot of mental problems, but classification as a psychopath comes with a lot more chaarcteristics than manipulative and remorseless behaviour.

Empath believed his powers would work on the White Queen. He also sent Magma & Sunspot to Amahl Farouk's the Gladiators. He's rather psychotic, immature, overindulgent boy given he came from a wealthy family where every whim was given to him thanks to his emapthic powers. I believe the only person he ever really feared was Illyana Rasputin because she was immune to his powers after she teleported to Limbo. She even threatened to leave Empath in Limbo if he tried any of his tricks.

Dizzy D

05-07-2006, 09:14 AM

Empath believed his powers would work on the White Queen. He also sent Magma & Sunspot to Amahl Farouk's the Gladiators. He's rather psychotic, immature, overindulgent boy given he came from a wealthy family where every whim was given to him thanks to his emapthic powers. I believe the only person he ever really feared was Illyana Rasputin because she was immune to his powers after she teleported to Limbo. She even threatened to leave Empath in Limbo if he tried any of his tricks.

True, but he's not a psychopath. And as usual half your comments are irrelevant to the point at hand, but we're used to that by now.
Psychopathy is a very specific defined personality disorder. And Empath shows a few of the criteria, but not even close to enough of them to be defined a psychopath. Don't use the Hollywood definition of "every evil guy is a psychopath", because it is wrong.

Marty4Magik

05-07-2006, 03:04 PM

I mean wed all like to think we would take Xavier's i dont mess with free will approach...
Bwhahahahahaha!:D
Xavier has messed with just as much minds as the Shadow King.
Sure, their goals were different, but that doesn't make it right.....does it?

Blackcat

05-16-2006, 04:27 AM

Does anyone know whatever happened to Doc. Corbeau? He went a couple of times iinto space with the X-Men, but the last couple iof year I never saw him again. Can anyone tell me his status?

streator

05-16-2006, 04:49 AM

Does anyone know whatever happened to Doc. Corbeau? He went a couple of times iinto space with the X-Men, but the last couple iof year I never saw him again. Can anyone tell me his status?
the last time i can recall seeing him was x-men (2nd series) 80.

http://www.uncannyxmen.net/db/issues/showquestion.asp?fldAuto=599

ibrakeforchinwe

05-16-2006, 05:02 AM

Ive got a question. Anyone know when Jean started using her telepathy? I dont mean the first time(when her friend died). I mean after she was an X-Man.

streator

05-16-2006, 02:14 PM

Ive got a question. Anyone know when Jean started using her telepathy? I dont mean the first time(when her friend died). I mean after she was an X-Man.
www.uncannyxmen.net's spotlight says that when xavier left and had the changeling take his place he "shared some of his telepathic power between him and Jean, reopening her mental blocks to her own telepathic powers". they also list this taking place in uncanny x-men 41-42.

http://www.uncannyxmen.net/db/spotlight/showquestion.asp?faq=10&fldAuto=61&page=2

The Lucky One

05-16-2006, 02:58 PM

True, but he's not a psychopath. And as usual half your comments are irrelevant to the point at hand, but we're used to that by now.
Psychopathy is a very specific defined personality disorder. And Empath shows a few of the criteria, but not even close to enough of them to be defined a psychopath. Don't use the Hollywood definition of "every evil guy is a psychopath", because it is wrong.

He's a sociopath, right? Isn't that the definition of someone who feels no empathy whatsoever? Related, but different from a psychopath. I dunno, I might be pulling that out of my ass, but I think I remember that.

*wishes he'd paid more attention in Behavioral Psych*

-D

bounusball75

05-16-2006, 07:26 PM

I have been out of the comic worl sadly for a few years. I just recently got back into it. I have been caught up from m day and the 198. I want to know does the 198 carried over into civil war where there are only 198 mutants left? Does anybody think that the general populace of exmutants will get there powers back caused by witch?

The Lucky One

05-16-2006, 07:30 PM

I want to know does the 198 carried over into civil war where there are only 198 mutants left?

There aren't just 198 mutants left; it's a symbolic number. If estimates are correct, even if 99% of mutants have been depowered, that would still leave thousands.

But no, I very much doubt they'll get their powers back soon. That would be like Marvel admitting "Hey, uh... guess that didn't work so well after all." Which they may do someday, but not after 6 months.

-D

Haunt

05-16-2006, 07:31 PM

He's a sociopath, right? Isn't that the definition of someone who feels no empathy whatsoever? Related, but different from a psychopath. I dunno, I might be pulling that out of my ass, but I think I remember that.

*wishes he'd paid more attention in Behavioral Psych*

-D

you're right. a psychopath would be someone like Jamie Braddock jr; detached from reality or experiencing auditory/visual hallucinations. sociopaths are more common (especially in politics). these are just people with no regard for others or the capacity to experience empathy.

and on that note, i'd say that Manuel is the exact opposite of a sociopath. he's affected constantly by the emotions of those around him and it's basically uncontrollable. or at least that's how he explained it back in the New Mutants series. he did use his powers to manipulate others and you can attribute that to Emma Frost being his personal tutor. he was a jerk because that was what the Hellfire Club rewarded.