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fishtaco
10-14-2005, 06:32 AM
Cable's left eye glows when he uses his powers because of his T-O virus, right? Then why does X-Man's eye glow?uh. X-Man's eye does glow.
TinMan
10-14-2005, 06:34 AM
uh. X-Man's eye does glow.
He was asking why does it glow. He doesn't have the TO virus like Cable, so it doesn't make a lot of sense that it does glow.
But to answer the question: I dunno. :p
How powerful a sorceress was Magik I while in Limbo?
Magik was the ruler of Limbo after she had defeated Belasco. As a result, Limbo reflected her moods. In Limbo, she could perform any spell Belasco could. Illyana was taught black magick; therefore, even the most harmless of spells were tainted. The irony is Magik used her black magick for good purposes. On Earth, Magik was limited to astral projection & her Soulsword. Telepaths could not read Illyana's mind either.
Magik's Soulsword was formed from a piece of her uncorrupted soul; therefore, with it, she could kill demons & destroy any spell. The Soulsword would not kill a regular non-magickal person. Instead, the sword would pass harmlessly through him or her. The more Illyana used her Soulsword, the more elderich armor appeared on her body (this may be linked to the spell she used on Mirage when they fought the Demon Bear).
After the Magus infected S'ym with the transmode virus, Limbo was literally split in half. As a result, Illyana was split in half as well: Magik & the Darkchilde. Illyana assumed her demonic Darkchilde incarnation usually when she used her Soulsword. Magik went to war with S'ym who was now immune to Illyana's magicks. Slowly, he was converting Limbo into a techo-organic place which would eventually cancel Illyana's mutant power to control Limbo's stepping discs. Eventually, Limbo became so corrupted that her Soulsword changed. Now, her Soulsword created monsters & destroyed spells.
When Illyana's Darkchilde had taken over herself, her Soulsword turned black, but Kitty grabbed the sword away from Illyana & used Illyana's own sword against her. Therefore, Illyana reverted back to her human self.
Only Kitty could wield Illyana's Soulsword effectively. Kitty also had a link to all of Illyana's magickal knowledge on a subconscious level. When Illyana ceased to exist, the armor & Soulsword reverted to Kitty.
The Lucky One
10-14-2005, 09:37 AM
He was asking why does it glow. He doesn't have the TO virus like Cable, so it doesn't make a lot of sense that it does glow.
But to answer the question: I dunno. :p
As I answered -- already -- it's not related to the t-o virus, it's a power signature of his teke abilities. Anything to the contrary (like the original plans that it glowed because it was bionic) are probably not in continuity. (It may still be bionic, that I don't know, but that's not why it glows.)
-D
nubly
10-15-2005, 05:09 AM
question on the rogue icons mini. the last issue had jean as an x-man. this mini took place shortly after she joined the x-men which would mean that to the x-men, jean was dead. was this an editorial error, different reality, did the 4th issue took place after jean rejoined the x-men, or was jean supposed to be maddie?
question on the rogue icons mini. the last issue had jean as an x-man. this mini took place shortly after she joined the x-men which would mean that to the x-men, jean was dead. was this an editorial error, different reality, did the 4th issue took place after jean rejoined the x-men, or was jean supposed to be maddie?
The story supposedly took place a little after Uncanny X-Men #171; however, the editors royally screwed with the continuity since Xavier established he could not read Rogue's mind due to the Kree-human hybrid psyche, Ms. Marvel, Rogue had recently permanently absorbed into herself. The irony is that is the whole reason why Rogue went to the X-Men. Naturally, Rogue possessed most of the original Ms. Marvel powers.
Yet, the Icons book blatantly ignored important continuity such as it displayed Xavier inside Rogue's mind & Rogue was without the Ms. Marvel powers. This blatant contradiction doomed the Quesada hyped series as the book quickly shed readers after Rogue #1 was released.
The book is not part of the mainstream Marvel Universe due to the editorially cited continuity errors.
nubly
10-15-2005, 09:33 AM
The book is not part of the mainstream Marvel Universe due to the editorially cited continuity errors.
is that what marvel left it off as?
is that what marvel left it off as?
Yes, the Icon: Rogue series is ignored. It was a failure since it's release. Quesada was hyping Rogue to be an ongoing series until the sales came in. Then he hid behind his desk & wondered what went wrong. Ignoring established continuity is what went wrong.
Blackcat
10-16-2005, 04:29 AM
I have a question about HoM #7
Are there any mutants in it which we haven't seen before?
In #6 we saw a glimse of Phantazia, was she also in #7 and who else was in it we haven't seen in HoM before?
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nubly
10-16-2005, 08:56 AM
I have a question about HoM #7
Are there any mutants in it which we haven't seen before?
In #6 we saw a glimse of Phantazia, was she also in #7 and who else was in it we haven't seen in HoM before?
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phantazia showed up in x-force #5
fishtaco
10-16-2005, 09:40 AM
phantazia showed up in x-force #5Dude, that was her first appearance. She showed up after that, too.
nubly
10-16-2005, 10:27 AM
what happend to nate and dr honover from scott's orphanage? i know nate was supposed to be essex but since that didnt happen, did anyone ever do anything with these two characters?
fishtaco
10-16-2005, 05:10 PM
what happend to nate and dr honover from scott's orphanage? i know nate was supposed to be essex but since that didnt happen, did anyone ever do anything with these two characters?Dr. Honover was killed while riding a plane that Sinister rigged to blow up. He did so because of the influence that she had on his prize lab rat, Scott Summers. See Classic X-Men 42.
We dont know about Nate. Claremont intended for him to be Sinister, but Scott Lobdell did something else. In X-Men: The End- Heroes and Martyrs 5, Claremont revealed the full origin of Sinister in which he took the stuff Lobdell revealed and added more to it that was based on what he originally intended. No contradictions were made.
Alpha to Omega
10-16-2005, 05:14 PM
Dr. Honover was killed while riding a plane that Sinister rigged to blow up. He did so because of the influence that she had on his prize lab rat, Scott Summers. See Classic X-Men 42.
We dont know about Nate. Claremont intended for him to be Sinister, but Scott Lobdell did something else. In X-Men: The End- Heroes and Martyrs 5, Claremont revealed the full origin of Sinister in which he took the stuff Lobdell revealed and added more to it that was based on what he originally intended. No contradictions were made.
Except the End including the past events are not canon.
The Lucky One
10-16-2005, 09:13 PM
Except the End including the past events are not canon.
That's debatable. The future events may not be canon, but past events (i.e., our present) may indeed be in canon.
-D
gary bolt
10-17-2005, 03:46 PM
I have a couple of death-related questions...
How many x-team members have died?
How many dead x-team members have been "brought back"?
Just curious.
Dizzy D
10-17-2005, 04:30 PM
I have a couple of death-related questions...
How many x-team members have died?
How many dead x-team members have been "brought back"?
Just curious.
The X-men have lost
- Changeling, posing as Xavier (came back as a zombie in one story, but was put to rest again)
- Thunderbird (not back yet, but his brother is almost completely the same)
- Jean/Phoenix II (through retconning back and forth, make of this what you want whether anybody or anything actually really died or not.)
- Storm, Wolverine, Havok, Colossus, Dazzler, Longshot, Rogue and Psylocke died in Dallas, but were immediatelly resurrected by Roma.
- Storm again, but it turned out to be a LMD left by Nanny
- Revanche
- Joseph
- Wolverine, but it turned out to be a Skrull
- Nate Grey (was an X-man during Astonishing X-men mini)
- Sunfire apparently in the Rogue mini, but I haven't read it.
- Psylocke, recently revived
- Colossus, recently revived
- Emma Frost, but Jean restored her.
- Jean Grey again
- Xorn I whoever he was.
- Magneto has died and returned various times.
X-factor lost:
- Angel, but he returned as Death/Archangel
- Jamie Madrox, but it turned out to be either a duplicate or there was no real Jamie: all duplicates *were* Jamie.
- Havok, but it turned out he was displaced into another reality.
- Greystone (possibly displaced in the same way as Havok, but never seen again)
- Shard, Wild Child, Polaris and Mystique died battling the Adversary, but Forge revived them with a spell.
- Mystique has faked her death more times than I can remember.
New Mutants lost:
- Magik
- Cypher
- Warlock, revived as Douglock
- Rusty Collins
X-force lost:
- Cannonball, but he revived almost immediately, then stated to be because he was an immortal.
- Copycat (who posed as Domino)
- Pete Wisdom (but it turned out to be a LMD)
- Jesse Bedlam
- The whole line-up from Zeitgeist's X-force onwards (apart from Dead Girl)
Excalibur lost:
- Brian's origin involves that he died and came back. He was also revived by Merlyn when the Fury killed him.
- Moira MacTaggert
Generation X lost:
- Skin
- Synch
- Mondo, but it turned out to be a plant-duplicate
Exiles lost:
- Magnus
- Sunfire
- Magik
.. I stopped reading it, but I believe Namora died as well.. anybody confirm?
Leaving any [possible] victims of the most recent comics (House of M) off the list to prevent spoilers.
Probably forgetting a lot more characters who died/returned.
gary bolt
10-17-2005, 04:45 PM
Holy smokes! I haven't read many x-comics since the late 80's so I had no idea how much carnage has been wrought in the Marvel universe. Thanks for the info, Dizzy D.
Ryan K
10-17-2005, 04:53 PM
The X-men have lost
- Changeling, posing as Xavier (came back as a zombie in one story, but was put to rest again)
- Thunderbird (not back yet, but his brother is almost completely the same)
- Jean/Phoenix II (through retconning back and forth, make of this what you want whether anybody or anything actually really died or not.)
- Storm, Wolverine, Havok, Colossus, Dazzler, Longshot, Rogue and Psylocke died in Dallas, but were immediatelly resurrected by Roma.
- Storm again, but it turned out to be a LMD left by Nanny
- Revanche
- Joseph
- Wolverine, but it turned out to be a Skrull
- Nate Grey (was an X-man during Astonishing X-men mini)
- Sunfire apparently in the Rogue mini, but I haven't read it.
- Psylocke, recently revived
- Colossus, recently revived
- Emma Frost, but Jean restored her.
- Jean Grey again
- Xorn I whoever he was.
- Magneto has died and returned various times.
X-factor lost:
- Angel, but he returned as Death/Archangel
- Jamie Madrox, but it turned out to be either a duplicate or there was no real Jamie: all duplicates *were* Jamie.
- Havok, but it turned out he was displaced into another reality.
- Greystone (possibly displaced in the same way as Havok, but never seen again)
- Shard, Wild Child, Polaris and Mystique died battling the Adversary, but Forge revived them with a spell.
- Mystique has faked her death more times than I can remember.
New Mutants lost:
- Magik
- Cypher
- Warlock, revived as Douglock
- Rusty Collins
X-force lost:
- Cannonball, but he revived almost immediately, then stated to be because he was an immortal.
- Copycat (who posed as Domino)
- Pete Wisdom (but it turned out to be a LMD)
- Jesse Bedlam
- The whole line-up from Zeitgeist's X-force onwards (apart from Dead Girl)
Excalibur lost:
- Brian's origin involves that he died and came back. He was also revived by Merlyn when the Fury killed him.
- Moira MacTaggert
Generation X lost:
- Skin
- Synch
- Mondo, but it turned out to be a plant-duplicate
Exiles lost:
- Magnus
- Sunfire
- Magik
.. I stopped reading it, but I believe Namora died as well.. anybody confirm?
Leaving any [possible] victims of the most recent comics (House of M) off the list to prevent spoilers.
Probably forgetting a lot more characters who died/returned.
Yeah Namora bought it in Exiles a couple issues back.
nubly
10-19-2005, 06:34 AM
anyone know the cover month and year that uncanny x-men #66 came out is?
riotgear
10-19-2005, 11:26 AM
anyone know the cover month and year that uncanny x-men #66 came out is?
Either January '68 or '69, if I recall correctly.
Alpha to Omega
10-19-2005, 09:13 PM
Beside Uncanny #191 did Illyana ever meet Dr. Strange?
Beside Uncanny #191 did Illyana ever meet Dr. Strange?
No, this was the only meeting. Dr. Strange told Xavier that Illyana needs her friends & family more than any mystical training her could help her with at the time.
Murrocko
10-20-2005, 10:08 AM
Is Morpher a real comic character or just on made up for the old fox X-Men show?
During (what I think was) the orginal AoA, was Deadpool even in it (my friend told me he was just some mindless slave to Apoc. I think he said that to piss my lil brother, seeing DP is his favorite)?
Is Gambit really Mr. Sinisters son (I forget where I heard this) and what are some good stories with him (Gambit)?
Ryan K
10-20-2005, 10:15 AM
Is Morpher a real comic character or just on made up for the old fox X-Men show?
During (what I think was) the orginal AoA, was Deadpool even in it (my friend told me he was just some mindless slave to Apoc. I think he said that to piss my lil brother, seeing DP is his favorite)?
Is Gambit really Mr. Sinisters son (I forget where I heard this) and what are some good stories with him (Gambit)?
Morph from the X-Men cartoon was pretty much an interpretation of the one time X-Men member known as Changeling. Changeling died very very early in the team's history. Other than powers though there's not very many similarities. In the Age of Apocalypse, a version of Changeling appeared, this time called Morph. There's another alternate reality version of Morph who appears in the book Exiles.
As for Gambit, the jury's still out. In the recent X-Men: The End mini series, it was revealed Gambit is a creation of Sinister. Sinieter created him by using a combination of his own and Cyclops' DNA. Thus sort of making him the "third Summers' brother" and also kind of making him Sinister's son. The problem with all this is X-Men: The End takes place in an alternate future of the X-Men. Therefore events areen't in canon (they don't count). But the argument is, because these revelations are about the past and not the future, they may indeed be canon.
You're even more confused now aren't you.
I don't remember anything about Deadpool in AoA. I'm sure someone else can help.
Dizzy D
10-20-2005, 10:30 AM
Is Morpher a real comic character or just on made up for the old fox X-Men show?
During (what I think was) the orginal AoA, was Deadpool even in it (my friend told me he was just some mindless slave to Apoc. I think he said that to piss my lil brother, seeing DP is his favorite)?
Is Gambit really Mr. Sinisters son (I forget where I heard this) and what are some good stories with him (Gambit)?
Deadpool was in the original AoA as Dead Man Wade. He was a completely insane assassin working for Apocalypse and was killed by Nightcrawler. He appeared in X-calibre.
Asian Knight
10-20-2005, 04:26 PM
Just curious how many of the X-Team members come from alternate timelines/dimensions.
I mean Illyanna was sorta in this category. Lockheed comes from a alternate planet along with Warlock.
Dizzy D
10-20-2005, 04:37 PM
Longshot and Shatterstar (or at least half of him as far as the Shatterstar Saga is understandable) are from another dimension.
Rachel, Bishop, Nocturne, Shard, Archer, Fixx, Greystone and Nate Grey are all from alternate timelines.
Widget has Kate Pryde's spirit from Rachel's timeline in it.
Cable spend most of his life in another time-period, but is from present day MU himself.
Kylun spent most of his life on an alternate Earth, but is also from present day MU.
Cerise is from Shi'ar-space.
Psylocke and Captain Britain were born on Earth, but their father is from another dimension and they are considered citizens of that dimension as well.
Gaia was from an alternate dimension.
And well, apart from Beak, all the Exiles are from alternate dimensions, but that's the whole point of the series.
Probably forgetting some blatant obvious one here.
Asian Knight
10-20-2005, 05:00 PM
Just curious since I haven't been here on these boards in a while. Who is still an X-Man and who's out? X-Man i mean in the Xavier Mansion team.
fishtaco
10-20-2005, 05:10 PM
Just curious how many of the X-Team members come from alternate timelines/dimensions.
I mean Illyanna was sorta in this category. Lockheed comes from a alternate planet along with Warlock.The Phoenix, Marvel Girl III, Psylocke (sorta), Longshot, Captain Britain (sorta), Bishop, Marrow (born here, came back from the Hill), Cable (born here, came back from the Askani future), X-Man, Lifeguard and Slipsteam????, Nocturne, Kylun (sorta), Cerise, Feron (I think), Warlock, Magik (born here, came back from Limbo), Shatterstar, Meggan (I think), Shard, Greystone, Archer, Fixx, Kate Pryde, that Gaie chick from Generation X that nobody liked, Lockheed, possibly Risque, Lilandra, possibly Lila Cheney, Corsair (born here, came back from space), Dark Beast, Holocaust, Havok (came back from Mutant X universe), Widget (right?), X-Treme.
Asian Knight
10-20-2005, 05:11 PM
If Bishop used the M'Kran crystal to travel back in time from the AoA universe. Why doesn't he use that same method to stop the assassination of Senator Kelly instead of Kitty? Would this have altered our MU sorta?
If Bishop used the M'Kran crystal to travel back in time from the AoA universe. Why doesn't he use that same method to stop the assassination of Senator Kelly instead of Kitty? Would this have altered our MU sorta?
Nope, it would have created another alternate reality.
Dizzy D
10-20-2005, 05:19 PM
The Phoenix, Marvel Girl III, Psylocke (sorta), Longshot, Captain Britain (sorta), Bishop, Marrow (born here, came back from the Hill), Cable (born here, came back from the Askani future), X-Man, Lifeguard and Slipsteam????, Nocturne, Kylun (sorta), Cerise, Feron (I think), Warlock, Magik (born here, came back from Limbo), Shatterstar, Meggan (I think), Shard, Greystone, Archer, Fixx, Kate Pryde, that Gaie chick from Generation X that nobody liked, Lockheed, possibly Risque, Lilandra, possibly Lila Cheney, Corsair (born here, came back from space), Dark Beast, Holocaust, Havok (came back from Mutant X universe), Widget (right?), X-Treme.
Meggan was born on the regular Earth in the UK and Feron is a descendant from an alternate reality traveller, but a few hundred generations later, so I think he counts as an Earthling as well.
streator
10-20-2005, 06:53 PM
not necessarily a question, but... damn. i never knew this.
http://www.uncannyxmen.net/db/characters/showquestion.asp?faq=53&fldAuto=543
Last Appearance: X-Factor (1st series) #117
Cause of Death:
Torn apart as her long-gestating "fetus", the Adversary, birthed himself
i only remember haven trying to cure jamie and rahne, i kind of dropped the book for a while afterwards. but yeah, interesting death.
The Lucky One
10-20-2005, 08:16 PM
i only remember haven trying to cure jamie and rahne, i kind of dropped the book for a while afterwards. but yeah, interesting death.
Cool. Just like Silent Hill 3, except probably not as gory.
-D
streator
10-25-2005, 07:43 PM
kind of going back a few months, but:
house of m 1, when the x-men get to the avengers' mansion and meet xavier, when is this supposed to take place? it doesn't make sense taking place before astonishing 11, where charles reacts to seeing colossus alive for the first time again and says nothing in hom 1. however, the dialogue is confusing.
kitty: professor!
prof: kitty.
kitty: i hated how things ended between us--
cyclops: you made it quite clear you weren't going to be involving yourself with us, and you weren't exactly nice about it.
prof: yes. well, obviously something important has come up.
cyclops makes it sound like this meeting is the first since xavier left for genosha, where he left them and not the x-men leaving him (which happened in astonishing 12).
so, i can't place it. continuity goof?
xakko
10-25-2005, 09:01 PM
New Mutants lost:
- Magik
- Cypher
- Warlock, revived as Douglock
- Rusty Collins
All the New Mutants at that time were killed by the Beyonder- Mirage, Magma, Cannonball, Wolfsbane, Magik, Cypher, and Warlock Only Roberto wasn't around to get slaughtered.
streator
10-26-2005, 08:07 PM
kind of going back a few months, but:
house of m 1, when the x-men get to the avengers' mansion and meet xavier, when is this supposed to take place? it doesn't make sense taking place before astonishing 11, where charles reacts to seeing colossus alive for the first time again and says nothing in hom 1. however, the dialogue is confusing.
kitty: professor!
prof: kitty.
kitty: i hated how things ended between us--
cyclops: you made it quite clear you weren't going to be involving yourself with us, and you weren't exactly nice about it.
prof: yes. well, obviously something important has come up.
cyclops makes it sound like this meeting is the first since xavier left for genosha, where he left them and not the x-men leaving him (which happened in astonishing 12).
so, i can't place it. continuity goof?
anyone? help?
xakko
10-26-2005, 08:13 PM
anyone? help?
I've heard reports that Whedon was not included in the whole story of House of M. There also may have been changes with Astonishing #12 in between the publication of HoM#1.
I think its clear Astonishing #12 takes place before HoM. The school was still full of mutants, which shouldn't be the case after Wanda's New Woogie.
If you want to play the No-Prize game, you could say that Scott is having lingering issues over the way Xavier abandoned them to have to deal with the Cure and Danger, and is projecting it onto Charles. Or there was an off camera phone call, but do phone's work in Genosha?
atoningunifex
10-27-2005, 04:19 AM
If Bishop used the M'Kran crystal to travel back in time from the AoA universe. Why doesn't he use that same method to stop the assassination of Senator Kelly instead of Kitty? Would this have altered our MU sorta?
Bishop didn't technically use the Crystal. Illyana used the Crystal to send Bishop back in time. He'd have to have access to the Crystal and a teleporter to make it work.
Jack Flash
10-27-2005, 06:03 AM
what ever happened to Malice? Last I saw she was *maybe* around Siryn's neck? anybody got more info on her since then? or before then?
Also is Forearm still dead? or is he back?
streator
10-27-2005, 06:18 AM
what ever happened to Malice? Last I saw she was *maybe* around Siryn's neck? anybody got more info on her since then? or before then?
Also is Forearm still dead? or is he back?
that wasn't malice; it might have been, but the story was forgotten and it was stated specifically to not have been her. malice is officially still dead, killed by sinister in x-factor.
forearm is still dead too, officially, died in tieri's bloodsport arc of wolverine.
and xakko, thanks.
The Lucky One
10-27-2005, 07:18 AM
Didn't Malice appear in X-Men: The End, though? If that timeline is a potential one springing out of the 616 reality, it would imply that, bare minimum, Sinister still has the ability to clone her. Either that, or she survived her death somehow.
-D
Didn't Malice appear in X-Men: The End, though? If that timeline is a potential one springing out of the 616 reality, it would imply that, bare minimum, Sinister still has the ability to clone her. Either that, or she survived her death somehow.
-D
Yes, but Malice's powers had changed. Sage was trying to control other people by using Malice's choker. When Malice possessed someone, a choker would appear around the victim's neck...
Sinister did not need to clone Malice because she was a psychic entity. Death for Malice is not the same for you or me with a body. She would just vacate the body she used to find another. However, I noticed Malice purposely avoided possessing the telepath, Psylocke, when they fought her in Uncanny X-Men #214. Of course, Malice's energy matrix combined with Polaris' abilitiy to wield magnetism to make Lorna Dane the ultimate mutant in power.
I don't think Malice died when Zaladane stole Lorna's powers either. However, since Malice was bonded to Lorna, it gave Lorna the ability to absorb negative energy. Therefore, Lorna Dane seemingly gained superhuman strength, invulnerability. But the people around her would slowly turn evil...
The Shadow King exploited Lorna's powers as a psychic anchor to take over the Muir Isle X-Men...
Dizzy D
10-27-2005, 09:18 AM
I don't think Malice died when Zaladane stole Lorna's powers either.
She didn't: she appeared in X-factor where she possessed Havok and Sinister interfered because he had other plans for Havok, seemingly killing Malice.
mattbib
10-27-2005, 11:39 AM
Interesting how in the latest New X-Men that the only member not to seemingly die in the final attack is Magik, as she was busy rescuing the others. I bet this somehow allows her to be resurrected in 616.
fishtaco
10-27-2005, 12:15 PM
Yes, but Malice's powers had changed. Sage was trying to control other people by using Malice's choker. When Malice possessed someone, a choker would appear around the victim's neck...
Sinister did not need to clone Malice because she was a psychic entity. Death for Malice is not the same for you or me with a body. She would just vacate the body she used to find another. However, I noticed Malice purposely avoided possessing the telepath, Psylocke, when they fought her in Uncanny X-Men #214. Of course, Malice's energy matrix combined with Polaris' abilitiy to wield magnetism to make Lorna Dane the ultimate mutant in power.
I don't think Malice died when Zaladane stole Lorna's powers either. However, since Malice was bonded to Lorna, it gave Lorna the ability to absorb negative energy. Therefore, Lorna Dane seemingly gained superhuman strength, invulnerability. But the people around her would slowly turn evil...
The Shadow King exploited Lorna's powers as a psychic anchor to take over the Muir Isle X-Men...What Dizzy said. Sinister destroyed Malice permanantly in X-Factor (1st Series) 103-105.
Beast
10-27-2005, 12:18 PM
Interesting how in the latest New X-Men that the only member not to seemingly die in the final attack is Magik, as she was busy rescuing the others. I bet this somehow allows her to be resurrected in 616.
Yep. I bet she ended up going to limbo with them, so would be outside the woogie wave. :)
The Lucky One
10-27-2005, 12:20 PM
Interesting how in the latest New X-Men that the only member not to seemingly die in the final attack is Magik, as she was busy rescuing the others. I bet this somehow allows her to be resurrected in 616.
Man, I hope so. (Though I guess I wouldn't really care if it isn't "our" Illyana... but maybe the anti-woogie wave will restore her to normal.) Don't suppose she brought Doug with her, did she?
-D
Beast
10-27-2005, 12:23 PM
Man, I hope so. (Though I guess I wouldn't really care if it isn't "our" Illyana... but maybe the anti-woogie wave will restore her to normal.) Don't suppose she brought Doug with her, did she?
-D
She wasn't that much different from the regular Illyana. Other than the fact that she was never corrupted by Limbo. So would be more like the Illyana had she grown up normally. Plus they can play off the whole 'Fish out of Water' aspect with HoM Illy in the new 616 reality. :)
atoningunifex
10-27-2005, 01:18 PM
Yes, but Malice's powers had changed. Sage was trying to control other people by using Malice's choker. When Malice possessed someone, a choker would appear around the victim's neck...
I believe it's said in caption in that issue that Sage allowed herself to be taken over by Malice to get access to Malice's abilities and memories.
The Malice choker is a physical manifestation of Malice's presence in a person's psyche. In Storm's first encounter with Malice she ended up ripping the choker off and ejecting Malice from her mind. The physicality and mentality were linked.
It isn't hard to imagine that Sage, with her computer brain and her telepathic abilities, used the choker as a physical focal point to take control of the Malice entity. And by bringing the physical focal point into contact with another, Sage was able to force a Malice possesion while maintaining control of the entity. One might speculate that Sage would be able to do that out of a combination of her telepathic ability and her genetic reading/imprinting ability.
Not a change to Malice's abilities, merely a clever trap and cunning usage by Sage.
nubly
10-27-2005, 05:23 PM
ok im a bit confused on the whole jean/phoenix thing. is the phoenix from x-men $101 jean grey or just the phoenix force impersonating the phoenix force? if its the latter, how did jean acquire the phoenix force?
ok im a bit confused on the whole jean/phoenix thing. is the phoenix from x-men $101 jean grey or just the phoenix force impersonating the phoenix force? if its the latter, how did jean acquire the phoenix force?
Originally, Jean Grey became Phoenix circa Uncanny X-Men #101, Classic X-Men #8. However, John Byrne wrote the story in Fantastic Four #286 which says the Phoenix cloned Jean's body, but it "borrowed" a portion of Jean's soul to become human. Years later, in trying to streamline the convoluted story, Morrison & Claremont have come back to the original thesis that Jean Grey became Phoenix. The answer to your question is yes & no.
fishtaco
10-27-2005, 07:19 PM
Originally, Jean Grey became Phoenix circa Uncanny X-Men #101, Classic X-Men #8. However, John Byrne wrote the story in Fantastic Four #286 which says the Phoenix cloned Jean's body, but it "borrowed" a portion of Jean's soul to become human. Years later, in trying to streamline the convoluted story, Morrison & Claremont have come back to the original thesis that Jean Grey became Phoenix. The answer to your question is yes & no.Ive heard the Morrison/Claremont thing before, but where have they more or less changed it? I have both Here Comes Tomorrow, and Phoenix Endsong, and I haven't found that anywhere. Also, what does Claremont have to do with it? Isn't it Morrison, and maybe Greg Pak?
Hello everyone, my first post:
In X-Men #007(UXM) Magneto was trying to probe Blob's mind; is he a telepath? If he is how strong is his telepathy compared to others?(like Jean and Prof. Xavier)
Is Storm immune to lightning and electricity? IIRC she was struck by lightning when she lost her powers(when fighting against Pyro) yet in X-Men #175 she was able to strike mutant alligators after she was grabbed by of them underwater. In Ultimate X-Men she almost killed herself when she struck Lady Deathstrike(I know its a different reality).
In Storm's spotlight at uncannyxmen.net one of her powers listed is "a pressure dome that can deflect attacks". Can someone please describe what that is? When did she use it?
How much time in X-Men Universe has passed between the very first X-Men issue and the latest one?
Thanks. :)
Dizzy D
10-28-2005, 02:53 AM
Hello everyone, my first post:
In X-Men #007(UXM) Magneto was trying to probe Blob's mind; is he a telepath? If he is how strong is his telepathy compared to others?(like Jean and Prof. Xavier)
Magneto is a telepath, but not a very strong one. Usually his telepathy is only strong enough to defend against another telepath's attack. He did have technology inside his helmet that boosted his telepathic powers (as seen in X-men/Avengers mini).
atoningunifex
10-28-2005, 03:41 AM
ok im a bit confused on the whole jean/phoenix thing. is the phoenix from x-men $101 jean grey or just the phoenix force impersonating the phoenix force? if its the latter, how did jean acquire the phoenix force?
When Jean made her deal with the Phoenix Force she was put into suspended animation and the Phoenix Force basically copied her completely. When Jean was discovered in her cocoon at the bottom of the bay Reed Richards theorized that the Phoenix had copied Jean so closely that it truly believed it was Jean.
When the Phoenix died on the moon it sent the "essence" of Jean back to Earth in order to reintegrate it back into Jean's body and wake her up. But isntead the essence bonded with Jean's clone, Maddie Pryor.
During Inferno Jean learned that Maddie had the Phoenix's memories and a bit of the Phoenix power. When Maddie willed herself dead and tried to take Jean with her Jean's mind absorbed the Phoenix essence and Maddie's memories into herself. She now possesed the Phoenix's memories of its time on Earth.
Over the years she manifested the Phoenix effect several times and made everyone enrvous. During Morrison's run she and the Phoenix merged again, only this time Jean was concious of what was going on. When Wolverine killed her on Asteroid M Jean fully actualized the Phoenix and had more access to its power.
Which is about as clear as mud. WHich is why retcons suck.
fishtaco
10-28-2005, 06:13 AM
How much time in X-Men Universe has passed between the very first X-Men issue and the latest one?Hi, Kal. I guess all I can say about this is that in comic books, time doesn't have much meaning. The age of characters and how much time passes tends to lose cohesivity.
A pressure dome? I can't really describe it, but I think Storm might have used it in X-Treme X-Men 2, when she created an air bubble for herself, Psylocke, and Thunderbird III. :)
The Fury
10-28-2005, 06:26 AM
In Storm's spotlight at uncannyxmen.net one of her powers listed is "[font=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica][size=2][size=2]a pressure dome that can deflect attacks". Can someone please describe what that is? When did she use it?
Due to her Weather powers she can actually control the air to some degree. This mixed with her ability to affect the air presure makes it so she can create different air pressures in the air, she is able to creat such a pressure that it is almost solid air. This is the dome of which they speak.
She used it once in the Uncanny X-men 283, I think. One of the issues when they first met Bishop.
The Lucky One
10-28-2005, 07:08 AM
The 616 Storm is immune to extremes of temperature -- for instance, she doesn't get cold -- but I can't remember if she's immune to her own lightning. I know Magneto has reflected her bolts back at her and caused it to hurt her.
How much time in X-Men Universe has passed between the very first X-Men issue and the latest one?
A very, very general rule of thumb is that 4 of our years = 1 Marvel year. It's far from perfect -- in the early days, it seemed to be more of a 1:1 correlation -- but nowadays, it works out pretty well. That means the Fantastic Four, who formed in 1961 in our world, have been around 11 Marvel years, while the X-Men formed 10.5 years ago. The All-New, All-Different X-Men formed 7.5 years ago.
-D
Thanks for the replies. Some more questions:
Psylocke was killed in the X-treme X-Men series. Was their any explanation for how she came back to life?
In the Phoenix Endsong saga(#004), Emma Frost was able to knock Shadowcat away from Cyclops. Does she have some latent telekinesis?
In Phoenix Endsong #002, Cyclops opened his eyes in front of Emma. Does she absorb energy in her diamond form? Why wasn't she affected? The room wasn't even damaged!?!
Crimson
10-28-2005, 11:00 AM
Thanks for the replies. Some more questions:
Psylocke was killed in the X-treme X-Men series. Was their any explanation for how she came back to life?
In the Phoenix Endsong saga(#004), Emma Frost was able to knock Shadowcat away from Cyclops. Does she have some latent telekinesis?
In Phoenix Endsong #002, Cyclops opened his eyes in front of Emma. Does she absorb energy in her diamond form? Why wasn't she affected? The room wasn't even damaged!?!
Psylocke's resurrection is an ongoing plot... it seems to involve her brother Jamie.
The thing with Emma and Cyclops beam is a topic that’s been discussed quite a bit. A lot of people think that Emma should have been blasted back by the beam and through the wall. It’s an error for dramatic effect.
streator
10-28-2005, 11:00 AM
Thanks for the replies. Some more questions:
Psylocke was killed in the X-treme X-Men series. Was their any explanation for how she came back to life?
it hasn't been explained yet, but it has something to do with her brother jamie braddock (a reality manipulator) and betsy is somehow tied to rachel summers in some way as well.
nubly
10-28-2005, 02:27 PM
When Jean made her deal with the Phoenix Force she was put into suspended animation and the Phoenix Force basically copied her completely. When Jean was discovered in her cocoon at the bottom of the bay Reed Richards theorized that the Phoenix had copied Jean so closely that it truly believed it was Jean.
When the Phoenix died on the moon it sent the "essence" of Jean back to Earth in order to reintegrate it back into Jean's body and wake her up. But isntead the essence bonded with Jean's clone, Maddie Pryor.
During Inferno Jean learned that Maddie had the Phoenix's memories and a bit of the Phoenix power. When Maddie willed herself dead and tried to take Jean with her Jean's mind absorbed the Phoenix essence and Maddie's memories into herself. She now possesed the Phoenix's memories of its time on Earth.
Over the years she manifested the Phoenix effect several times and made everyone enrvous. During Morrison's run she and the Phoenix merged again, only this time Jean was concious of what was going on. When Wolverine killed her on Asteroid M Jean fully actualized the Phoenix and had more access to its power.
Which is about as clear as mud. WHich is why retcons suck.
no i think i understood yours. DDMs explaining says that it was a retcon. so the first phoenix was really jean? your explanation says that the first phoenix was just the phoenix force and the last phoenix was the phoenix force with jean.
no i think i understood yours. DDMs explaining says that it was a retcon. so the first phoenix was really jean? your explanation says that the first phoenix was just the phoenix force and the last phoenix was the phoenix force with jean.
Chris Claremont: Jean Grey is Phoenix
John Byrne, Kurt Busiek: Phoenix is Jean Grey
Yes, the retcon--as presented in Fantastic Four #286--the Phoenix Force is inherently evil & sought to become human; therefore, Phoenix became Jean Grey, cloning Jean's body & mind perfectly.
Chris Claremont's original idea is that Jean Grey literally became Phoenix as of Uncanny X-Men #101; Jean is source for the Phoenix's name & avatar as a cosmic bird of eternal fire. Chris Claremont further clarified his idea in Classic X-Men #8, Phoenix's origin.
Much later Jean Grey absorbed Madelyne Pryor's psyche into her own mind in X-Factor #38. Therefore, Marvel Girl now has the original Phoenix's & Madelyne Pryor's memories as her own.
When Jean Grey took the name Phoenix in The Adventures of Cyclops & Phoenix #1-4, it just added more confusion about Jean Grey, Marvel Girl, & Phoenix. Chris Claremont & Grant Morrison went back to the original idea that Jea Grey is Phoenix in the second Uncanny X-Men & New X-Men respectively to streamline her character.
nubly
10-29-2005, 03:10 PM
which was the last issue of excalibur, vol.2?
Crimson
10-29-2005, 03:10 PM
which was the last issue of excalibur, vol.2?
The last issue was #14
Bearpod91
10-30-2005, 12:27 PM
In the 616 universe is there a connection going on with spidey and shadowcat? I'm not reading much 616 and was wondering if they did something like the Ult counterpart.
Ryan K
10-30-2005, 01:07 PM
In the 616 universe is there a connection going on with spidey and shadowcat? I'm not reading much 616 and was wondering if they did something like the Ult counterpart.
You mean date?
No they've never dated in 616. Obviously they've met numeroues times but as far as I can recall there's never been anything remotely resembling romantic interest on either party's side or flirting in any way.
But you have to remember that in 616, Spider-man was in college by the time 13 year old Shadowcat was introduced.
In the 616 universe is there a connection going on with spidey and shadowcat? I'm not reading much 616 and was wondering if they did something like the Ult counterpart.
Peter Parker is 5-7 years older or more than Kitty. Therefore, it was out of the question for them to date. Peter was in his early to mid 20's when Kitty was only 13 years old.
Indigo Al
11-02-2005, 02:26 PM
Could someone give me a quick primer on this iteration of Magik that's appearing in New X-Men: Academy X?
Thanks.
Rich L
11-02-2005, 03:17 PM
Could someone give me a quick primer on this iteration of Magik that's appearing in New X-Men: Academy X?
Thanks.
She's essentially an alternate-reality (ie HoM) version of our own Illyana Rasputin, only she never lost control of Limbo and got de-aged back to being a child.
That said, I never bought that anyway...I'm sure that there's an Illyana alive in Limbo somewhere.
The Lucky One
11-02-2005, 03:33 PM
She's essentially an alternate-reality (ie HoM) version of our own Illyana Rasputin, only she never lost control of Limbo and got de-aged back to being a child.
She's also just a bit younger than "our" Illyana was when she became Magik. "Our" version was 7 when she fell into Limbo and 15 when she emerged. But if she never fell in, then the HoM version has aged... lessee, 4 years real time = 1 year Marvel time, fell in in, what, 1982? So 23 years real time, just about 6 Marvel years. So the HoM Illyana is 14 now. Enh, guess it's not that big a difference after all... I didn't realize how long it's been since that story was originally published. But if the HoM version were to emerge in the regular 616 reality, she'd be much younger than her former friends.
-D
Domo Goddess
11-02-2005, 05:21 PM
What exactly did Lorna see that caused her to freak out ?
mattbib
11-02-2005, 05:39 PM
What exactly did Lorna see that caused her to freak out ?It hasn't been revealed yet.
mattbib
11-02-2005, 05:45 PM
What is "House of M"???House of M spins out of the Avengers Disassembled arc and the recent Excalibur series. In Disassembled Scarlet Witch goes insane and causes the deaths of Ant-Man, Hawkeye, and The Vision, and destroys Avengers Mansion. In Excalibur she was brought by Magneto to Genosha so that Xavier could help treat her fragile mind.
House of M itself is an 8-issue limited series in which the mentally unstable Scarlet Witch is influenced by her brother, Quicksilver, to alter the Marvel Universe so that most all mutants have their greatest desires, with Magneto more or less being the ruler of the world. In the last two issues of the series Wanda blames Pietro's actions on Magneto and whispers the words "No more mutants," causing many mutants to lose their mutation. The loss of mutations is expected to be the topic of the House of M -- Decimation story. This also leads into the 198, which is supposedly going to deal with those 198 mutants (in addition to those in the X-Men and other major mutant characters) who keep their powers.
House of M spins out of the Avengers Disassembled arc and the recent Excalibur series. In Disassembled Scarlet Witch goes insane and causes the deaths of Ant-Man, Hawkeye, and The Vision, and destroys Avengers Mansion. In Excalibur she was brought by Magneto to Genosha so that Xavier could help treat her fragile mind.
House of M itself is an 8-issue limited series in which the mentally unstable Scarlet Witch is influenced by her brother, Quicksilver, to alter the Marvel Universe so that most all mutants have their greatest desires, with Magneto more or less being the ruler of the world. In the last two issues of the series Wanda blames Pietro's actions on Magneto and whispers the words "No more mutants," causing many mutants to lose their mutation. The loss of mutations is expected to be the topic of the House of M -- Decimation story. This also leads into the 198, which is supposedly going to deal with those 198 mutants (in addition to those in the X-Men and other major mutant characters) who keep their powers.
Thanks a lot. So basically House of M is a stand alone series and also a crossover spanning different Marvel books? Is there anything I need to know(or read) before reading the limited series books? Does the Decimation story span several books as well? Sorry if I'm asking too many questions, its a bit confusing....
mattbib
11-03-2005, 10:41 AM
Nah, you could read the latter issues of Excalibur or avengers Disassembled, or any of the HoM tie-in series, but you don't need to.
HoM leads directly into Decimation with the Decimation: House of M - The Day After one-shot, and other projects:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v467/mattbib/decimation.jpg
http://media.comics.ign.com/media/739/739446/img_3141010.html
Alpha to Omega
11-03-2005, 04:46 PM
Outside of Quicksilver and Crystal have the X-Men ever really interacted with the Inhuman's?
mattbib
11-03-2005, 07:53 PM
Outside of Quicksilver and Crystal have the X-Men ever really interacted with the Inhuman's?The Inhumans interacted with the original X-Factor more than once.
Dizzy D
11-04-2005, 01:48 AM
Outside of Quicksilver and Crystal have the X-Men ever really interacted with the Inhuman's?
They fought together against Apocalypse on the moon. The original Dark Riders were Inhumans.
And there was an annual where they met up with the Inhumans.
And in solo-series Dazzler and Black Bolt teamed up once.
Novaya Havoc
11-04-2005, 10:30 AM
Outside of Quicksilver and Crystal have the X-Men ever really interacted with the Inhuman's?
They Interacted with Dazzler twice: one time, Medusa sent Black Bolt (via Lockjaw) to help her short-circuit the Absorbing Man.
Another time, Medusa dragged Ali to Atillan to help them "illuminate" a wave of Darkforce coming at them. Ali was making cruisy-eyes at an Inhuman, too. :P
Was it always planned that Dark Phoenix would not be Jean and that the real Jean would be in the cocoon? Reading the Dark Phoenix saga over again it seems the whole "Jean in a coccon " thing was just a cheap way of bringing Jean back. Jean was clearly Dark Phoenix as she was struggling to fight the dark force within her. If it was really only the Dark Phoenix only she wouldn't have killed herself. It just doesn't make sense. Whose idea was it to bring her back in such a cheap way? it just one of the things that pisses me off about the X-Universe. If you're going to do something drastic like bringing someone back from the dead at least present a solid story and make it believable.
Storm controls the weather. The last time I checked temperature changes also falls under weather. How come she's only able to make blizzards and snow or rapidly decrease the temperature but not rapidly raise the temperature? It just seems that everything she does involves rain, wind(hurricanes and tornados), snow/ice/blizzard but not heat?(And no I don't count her manipulating solar "currents" in space)
Can someone plase explain hw magnetic force fields work? I know this is a comic and I have to throw some realism out of the window but I just don't understand this. I can understand using magnetism to levitate, or a teke force field but a magnetic force field that prevents energy penetration just sounds strange. If it is so strong shouldn't stop psychic/telepathic attacks? Magneto shouldn't even wear a helmet, a magnetic force field constantly surrounding his brain should be enough.
Thanks in advance.
Ryan K
11-04-2005, 10:59 AM
Was it always planned that Dark Phoenix would not be Jean and that the real Jean would be in the cocoon? Reading the Dark Phoenix saga over again it seems the whole "Jean in a coccon " thing was just a cheap way of bringing Jean back. Jean was clearly Dark Phoenix as she was struggling to fight the dark force within her. If it was really only the Dark Phoenix only she wouldn't have killed herself. It just doesn't make sense. Whose idea was it to bring her back in such a cheap way? it just one of the things that pisses me off about the X-Universe. If you're going to do something drastic like bringing someone back from the dead at least present a solid story and make it believable.
It was indeed a retcon. The whole cocoon thing was just the story they cooked up to return Jean back to life and thus reunite her with the original X-Men in X-Factor.
Was it always planned that Dark Phoenix would not be Jean and that the real Jean would be in the cocoon? Reading the Dark Phoenix saga over again it seems the whole "Jean in a coccon " thing was just a cheap way of bringing Jean back. Jean was clearly Dark Phoenix as she was struggling to fight the dark force within her. If it was really only the Dark Phoenix only she wouldn't have killed herself. It just doesn't make sense. Whose idea was it to bring her back in such a cheap way? it just one of the things that pisses me off about the X-Universe. If you're going to do something drastic like bringing someone back from the dead at least present a solid story and make it believable.
In the original story, Uncanny X-Men #100-137, Jean Grey is Phoenix.
Storm controls the weather. The last time I checked temperature changes also falls under weather. How come she's only able to make blizzards and snow or rapidly decrease the temperature but not rapidly raise the temperature? It just seems that everything she does involves rain, wind(hurricanes and tornados), snow/ice/blizzard but not heat?(And no I don't count her manipulating solar "currents" in space)
Storm must work with the natural weather patterns. If she makes a rain storm in one area, the other area will be a drought. Storm percieves the weather as patterns of energy which she can manipulate; it is harder for her to make more precise forms of storms. Storm's weather control ability is also linked to her emotions. If she feels angry, storm clouds would gather in the area. Storm's body also natually changes to not make her feel warm or cold. It's why she could walk around naked in winter. Her body would warm her body to the correct temperature without her going into hyperthemia. Storm can be more subtle as well. For instance, when Storm drained all the moisture away from Magneto or the time she created a mico-blizzard around Sebastian Shaw. Storm also created a heat current when she killed N'Astrigh.
Dizzy D
11-04-2005, 02:37 PM
Storm controls the weather. The last time I checked temperature changes also falls under weather. How come she's only able to make blizzards and snow or rapidly decrease the temperature but not rapidly raise the temperature? It just seems that everything she does involves rain, wind(hurricanes and tornados), snow/ice/blizzard but not heat?(And no I don't count her manipulating solar "currents" in space)
She can raise the temperature (the only instance I can think off is making it a bright and sunny day on Cyclops and Jean's wedding in the middle of the winter). She is just limited by weather-patterns (she can shape it, but she can't create heat or cold out of nowhere), so that means she could heat things up to maybe desert temperatures and that's not hot enough in most combat situations. Blizzards and snow have some advantages besides the cold (poor sight, bad footing) that warm weather lacks.
Can someone plase explain hw magnetic force fields work? I know this is a comic and I have to throw some realism out of the window but I just don't understand this. I can understand using magnetism to levitate, or a teke force field but a magnetic force field that prevents energy penetration just sounds strange. If it is so strong shouldn't stop psychic/telepathic attacks? Magneto shouldn't even wear a helmet, a magnetic force field constantly surrounding his brain should be enough.
Thanks in advance.
Magneto doesn't work so much with just magnetism as with electro-magnetism, so it affects energy (free energy=electro-magnetic after all). As for psionic energy, it seems to behave completely different than normal energy and probably should not be influenced too much by electro-magnetic fields (though there is at least some influence: Magneto changing the EM-field of the Earth limited Xavier's range)
streator
11-05-2005, 08:51 AM
She can raise the temperature (the only instance I can think off is making it a bright and sunny day on Cyclops and Jean's wedding in the middle of the winter). She is just limited by weather-patterns (she can shape it, but she can't create heat or cold out of nowhere), so that means she could heat things up to maybe desert temperatures and that's not hot enough in most combat situations. Blizzards and snow have some advantages besides the cold (poor sight, bad footing) that warm weather lacks.
she also created a nice, warm atmosphere for the x-men in uncanny 353-354. it was winter and they were swimming and all that (they ended up finding the old blackbird at the bottom of the pond; sauron also guested).
xakko
11-05-2005, 09:48 AM
Pointless post, already answered.
fishtaco
11-05-2005, 10:13 AM
she also created a nice, warm atmosphere for the x-men in uncanny 353-354. it was winter and they were swimming and all that (they ended up finding the old blackbird at the bottom of the pond; sauron also guested).She also did the same thing for Scott and Jean's wedding in X-Men (2nd Series) 30. :)
Lawrence
11-05-2005, 11:52 AM
Isn't heat created when atoms start vibrating or something? Couldn't Storm just do that?
Dizzy D
11-06-2005, 11:56 AM
Isn't heat created when atoms start vibrating or something? Couldn't Storm just do that?
But to get atoms vibrating you need to add energy and Storm doesn't really generate energy as much as move it about (not exactly, but then again laws of thermodynamics always suffer the worst in comics)
streator
11-06-2005, 09:14 PM
Pointless post, already answered.
dizzy d said he could think of the example he referenced, so i provided another to strengthen the argument.
Davideaux
11-07-2005, 12:23 PM
Nightcrawler's poof: what does it really smell like? Please give me real world examples.
Lawrence
11-07-2005, 12:54 PM
Sulphur and Brimstone?
riotgear
11-07-2005, 12:55 PM
Nightcrawler's poof: what does it really smell like? Please give me real world examples.
It smells like sulfur.
Ryan K
11-07-2005, 12:55 PM
Nightcrawler's poof: what does it really smell like? Please give me real world examples.
Sulfur and Brimstone.
Lawrence
11-07-2005, 12:57 PM
Wow, three simultaneous answers!
The Lucky One
11-07-2005, 01:32 PM
Or for a more "real-world" example- rotten eggs.
-D
Davideaux
11-07-2005, 01:49 PM
Thanks but what does brimstone smell like? Can I get a brimstone candle at Bed, Bath and Beyond?
Ryan K
11-07-2005, 01:58 PM
Thanks but what does brimstone smell like? Can I get a brimstone candle at Bed, Bath and Beyond?
Well, brimstone is just another word for sulfur.
Davideaux
11-07-2005, 02:05 PM
Well, brimstone is just another word for sulfur.
Thanks
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twilight
11-07-2005, 11:37 PM
Are Beak's arms feathered all over or just on his forearms?
riotgear
11-08-2005, 12:53 AM
Are Beak's arms feathered all over or just on his forearms?
Actually, he has hair on his arms, since he's human now, as of Exiles #72.
twilight
11-08-2005, 01:33 AM
Actually, he has hair on his arms, since he's human now, as of Exiles #72.
I meant before.
Asian Knight
11-08-2005, 03:57 PM
Which experienced ex-X Team members are in X-Corporation? I know Sunfire, Sunspot, Siryn, Rictor, Multiple Man, and Warpath.
Also, is Wolverine part of X-Corporation? Or was he allied with em to save Dust?
Is Abyss' shadowy portal simular to that of Cloak's dimensional cape? Just curious.
Asian Knight
11-08-2005, 04:01 PM
Which of the X-Team members are on the specific teams of X-Corporation?
I know Sunspot leads the Los Angeles Branch. And Warpath is on the Mumbai India Branch with Sunfire.
Are there any non-mutants working for X-Corporation?
What is Pete Wisdom up to?
Dizzy D
11-08-2005, 04:06 PM
Which experienced ex-X Team members are in X-Corporation? I know Sunfire, Sunspot, Siryn, Rictor, Multiple Man, and Warpath.
Monet from Generation X, Skids from the New Mutants, Empath from the original Hellions. Domino from X-force did some work in an annual, but left pretty soon. Cannonball was a member of X-corporation Paris till Darkstar died. Feral was a member of X-corporation in India.
Also, is Wolverine part of X-Corporation? Or was he allied with em to save Dust?
He just used it as a friendly base to drop off Dust.
Is Abyss' shadowy portal simular to that of Cloak's dimensional cape? Just curious.
Pretty much similar, yes. Only Cloak's cloak opens up to the mystical Dark Dimension which has some added downsides and benefits for him.
Dizzy D
11-08-2005, 04:11 PM
Which of the X-Team members are on the specific teams of X-Corporation?
I know Sunspot leads the Los Angeles Branch. And Warpath is on the Mumbai India Branch with Sunfire.
Post House-of-M everything is unclear but up to then:
X-corp. Paris: Siryn, Rictor, Monet St. Croix
Former members: Cannonball (joined X-men), Darkstar (deceased) and Multiple Man (founded the new X-factor)
Note: Siryn, Rictor and Monet will join Multiple Man's X-factor.
X-corp. LA: Sunspot, Skids and Empath
X-corp. India: Sunfire, Feral and Thornn.
(I believe Domino and Risque were member of the India branch as well, but it could be the China-branch)
Former members: Domino (went back to X-force), Warpath (went back to X-force) and Risque (deceased)
Are there any non-mutants working for X-Corporation?
Not that I know off, but it is possible.
What is Pete Wisdom up to?
Back with the British government, appearing in Uncanny and soon to be cast member in Excalibur.
Asian Knight
11-08-2005, 04:54 PM
Are there any spies within the Weapon X team hoping to aid in its destruction? Spies, I mean like Chamber is for the X-Men.
In the Phalanx Convenant. Sorry if I spelled it wrong. Why did Sabretooth aid White Queen, Banshee & Jubilee? I thought that he was a bad guy.
Or is it because Wolverine wasn't there?
If Wolverine never joined the X-Men. Would Sabretooth have joined? Sure he doesn't have the ideals as the X-Men. But he would possibly be a powerhouse for the team.
mattbib
11-08-2005, 05:06 PM
Are there any spies within the Weapon X team hoping to aid in its destruction? Spies, I mean like Chamber is for the X-Men.
Not that I'm aware of.
In the Phalanx Convenant. Sorry if I spelled it wrong. Why did Sabretooth aid White Queen, Banshee & Jubilee? I thought that he was a bad guy.
Because the Phalanx was out to destroy all of human/mutant kind, including Sabretooth.
If Wolverine never joined the X-Men. Would Sabretooth have joined?No.
mattbib
11-08-2005, 05:08 PM
Post House-of-M everything is unclear but up to then:
X-corp. Paris: Siryn, Rictor, Monet St. Croix
Former members: Cannonball (joined X-men), Darkstar (deceased) and Multiple Man (founded the new X-factor)
Note: Siryn, Rictor and Monet will join Multiple Man's X-factor.
X-corp. LA: Sunspot, Skids and Empath
X-corp. India: Sunfire, Feral and Thornn.
(I believe Domino and Risque were member of the India branch as well, but it could be the China-branch)
Former members: Domino (went back to X-force), Warpath (went back to X-force) and Risque (deceased)
I think India may have shut down fully. Sunfire certainly wasn't active with X-Corp anymore, was he?
And Sunspot would presumably have left L.A. to head up the Hellfire Club.
And didn't Siryn essentially leave Paris to work with X-Force also?
riotgear
11-08-2005, 05:12 PM
I meant before.
Sorry, I was being a smart-@$$.
Alpha to Omega
11-08-2005, 05:35 PM
Pretty much similar, yes. Only Cloak's cloak opens up to the mystical Dark Dimension which has some added downsides and benefits for him.
Cloak's cloak opens to the Darkforce Dimension which is different then the Dark Dimension which is the home of Dormmamu, Umar, Clea and the Mindless Ones.
Dizzy D
11-08-2005, 06:10 PM
Cloak's cloak opens to the Darkforce Dimension which is different then the Dark Dimension which is the home of Dormmamu, Umar, Clea and the Mindless Ones.
You are right, I got the two mixed-up.
I think India may have shut down fully. Sunfire certainly wasn't active with X-Corp anymore, was he?
Didn't waste my money on Rogue, so I haven't seen Sunfire since X-corps India.
And Sunspot would presumably have left L.A. to head up the Hellfire Club.
Frost, Pierce and Shaw all had their own businesses still when they were members of the Hellfire Club, I think he could combine the work. He probably has left though.
And didn't Siryn essentially leave Paris to work with X-Force also?
True, Rictor as well (at least according to the text-balloons in Cable&Deadpool)
Asian Knight
11-10-2005, 04:33 PM
Besides Sabretooth & Agent Zero. Are there any other old Team X or Weapon X members back on the team?
I've seen Random get clawed by Wolfsbane in a old issue of X-Factor. When she did it, Random stated that his mutant power will soon give him protection from her claws. Does this mean that once he gets slashed by adamantium. He's invulnerable to adamantium for a short time?
How come Alex's gene pool doesn't add up to a powerful mutant like Cyclops & Jean Grey's? Just curious. I would have figured that if he & Polaris had a kid. They would be close in power to Sinister at the most.
The Lucky One
11-10-2005, 04:37 PM
How come Alex's gene pool doesn't add up to a powerful mutant like Cyclops & Jean Grey's? Just curious. I would have figured that if he & Polaris had a kid. They would be close in power to Sinister at the most.
It does- it's Summers DNA in general that acts as a catalyst, enhancing the powers of the mother in the child. If Havok and Polaris had a kid, he'd be Magneto. I guess Sinister just figured if he wanted that, he'd snag Magneto himself.
-D
Dizzy D
11-10-2005, 04:39 PM
Besides Sabretooth & Agent Zero. Are there any other old Team X or Weapon X members back on the team?
I've seen Random get clawed by Wolfsbane in a old issue of X-Factor. When she did it, Random stated that his mutant power will soon give him protection from her claws. Does this mean that once he gets slashed by adamantium. He's invulnerable to adamantium for a short time?
How come Alex's gene pool doesn't add up to a powerful mutant like Cyclops & Jean Grey's? Just curious. I would have figured that if he & Polaris had a kid. They would be close in power to Sinister at the most.
Look at Mutant X-verse: Havok and Madelyne Pryor had a child there, because Scott was taken to the Shi'ar and became Corsair in that universe. The child Scotty was a very powerful telepath/psionic like and Nathan Summers was.
LoneWolf21
11-10-2005, 04:43 PM
Here's an odd conundrum: Way back in X-Men/Alpha Flight, Madelyne Pryor was one of a group of people given powers (in her case, healing) by an asgardian fountain (I think that was what it was). Now, the particular thing about that was the fountain COULD NOT give powers to people who were mutants. Flashforward to Inferno, where Maddie is revealed to a clone of Jean Grey with the same power set. In other words, she was a mutant.
Notice the problem? They ever clear that up?
Here's an odd conundrum: Way back in X-Men/Alpha Flight, Madelyne Pryor was one of a group of people given powers (in her case, healing) by an asgardian fountain (I think that was what it was). Now, the particular thing about that was the fountain COULD NOT give powers to people who were mutants. Flashforward to Inferno, where Maddie is revealed to a clone of Jean Grey with the same power set. In other words, she was a mutant.
Notice the problem? They ever clear that up?
Loki's fountain was magickal in nature; therefore, he was able to turn Madelyne Pryor into Anodyne.
Sinister revealed he was disappointed she did not possess any mutant powers, despite Madelyne Pryor is a clone of Jean Grey; logically, she should have had all of Jean's telepathy, telekinesis, & her ability to tap into the Phoenix Force. Nonetheless, Sinister set her off to meet Scott Summers to have a powerful child. However, N'Astrigh manipulate Pryor, through S'ym, in a dream; the demon awakened Pryor's dark side, the Goblin Queen. In doing so, she was able to tap into the Phoenix Force in several ways. Pryor had been using her telepathy & telekinesis instinctively before, but she just did not remember using her powers.
LoneWolf21
11-10-2005, 05:12 PM
Yeah, but it was stated that the fountain didn't work on mutants, which Madelyne was eventually revealed to be. So then why did it work on her in the first place?
Yeah, but it was stated that the fountain didn't work on mutants, which Madelyne was eventually revealed to be. So then why did it work on her in the first place?
Madelyne is a clone. That's why it worked on her.
Jake V
11-10-2005, 05:16 PM
What is Xavier a professor of?
I'm guessing genetics.
Dizzy D
11-10-2005, 05:24 PM
What is Xavier a professor of?
I'm guessing genetics.
You aren't professor of anything. It isn't a protected title. But Xavier has PhDs in genetics, biophysics, anthropology and psychiatry. He also has his M.D.
He was a professor at Columbia (but a visiting professor)
Alpha to Omega
11-11-2005, 01:19 AM
I was just wondering has Magneto ever interacted with the Silver Surfer?
Brian R
11-11-2005, 01:51 AM
Captain Britain question here, assuming that the new incarnation is essentially the same as the classic Cap of course. I remember reading that he needs to stay near Great Britain or his powers fade, is this correct or am I recalling falsly? Thanks in advance guys.
mattbib
11-11-2005, 02:08 AM
Captain Britain question here, assuming that the new incarnation is essentially the same as the classic Cap of course. I remember reading that he needs to stay near Great Britain or his powers fade, is this correct or am I recalling falsly? Thanks in advance guys.Presumably that's still the case. He hasn't made too many appearances outside of Britain, even in Excalibur, since his college days. Just remember that it's Claremont writing him now so the traditional limitations will likely stay the same.
Captain Britain question here, assuming that the new incarnation is essentially the same as the classic Cap of course. I remember reading that he needs to stay near Great Britain or his powers fade, is this correct or am I recalling falsly? Thanks in advance guys.
Brian's Captain Britain costume helps him sustain his powers outside of the UK; however, during Inferno when Shadowcat as Magik cut Captain Britain with Illyana's Soulsword in Excalibur #6-7, the magickal sword destroyed his costume. As a result, Brian lost control of his powers since Meggan & he were still in NYC. In Excalibur #12-14, when he gained Captain Marshall's costume, they said his lifeforce is bound to Great Britain. Therefore, both Meggan & he must stay in the UK for their powers to work properly. But the costume allows Captain Britain to leave the UK without any harmful effects.
Asian Knight
11-15-2005, 05:33 PM
Besides Sabretooth & Agent Zero. Are there any other old Team X or Weapon X members back on the team?
I've seen Random get clawed by Wolfsbane in a old issue of X-Factor. When she did it, Random stated that his mutant power will soon give him protection from her claws. Does this mean that once he gets slashed by adamantium. He's invulnerable to adamantium for a short time?
mattbib
11-15-2005, 05:35 PM
Kane was, but he's dead now.
Asian Knight
11-15-2005, 05:39 PM
What about the question about Random?
Btw, is he sorta immortal? I saw him get blasted in the cartoon series version. When he was waiting for Apocalypse. But he still survived somehow.
Dizzy D
11-15-2005, 05:43 PM
Besides Sabretooth & Agent Zero. Are there any other old Team X or Weapon X members back on the team?
John Wraith worked with them, but was killed by Sabretooth. Garrison Kane was a member till he died in the series. Deadpool and Wolverine were members for a short while (Wolverine without noticing through some kind of mindcontrol, Deadpool till he discovered that they wanted to kill his girlfriend.)
Psi-Borg/Aldo Ferro, Sluggo and Slayback haven't been seen yet in Weapon X and Silver Fox and Mastodon died before the new Weapon X-started.
I've seen Random get clawed by Wolfsbane in a old issue of X-Factor. When she did it, Random stated that his mutant power will soon give him protection from her claws. Does this mean that once he gets slashed by adamantium. He's invulnerable to adamantium for a short time?
Random's power works against mutant powers and adamantium isn't a mutant power. Then again he can take on an almost liquid form, so that should protect him against Wolverine's claws anyway.
mattbib
11-15-2005, 05:45 PM
No, he's not immortal. Here's a description of his powers: physical form made of morphing protoplasm, which acts to counteract any force or mutant ability directed at it, can expand his mass and strength, and can be fired as biomatter projectiles.
I guess after some exposure his protoplasm adjusts itself to resist that type of force or energy.
LoneWolf21
11-15-2005, 05:46 PM
All this is from memory, but Random is made of protoplasm or something, which means he can reform his entire body whatever he wants. A by-product of this is that he has an increased resistance to attacks, but he is, to my knowledge, not immortal. What works on him once, won't work on him a second time. Interestingly, some of Claremont's original idea for Mr.Sinister were re-worked for Random's origin. He's a teenager who's remade himself to look like a what (at the time) steretypical teenager would deem to be a cool hero.
All this is from memory though, I may be off on a few details.
Asian Knight
11-15-2005, 05:48 PM
John Wraith worked with them, but was killed by Sabretooth. Garrison Kane was a member till he died in the series. Deadpool and Wolverine were members for a short while (Wolverine without noticing through some kind of mindcontrol, Deadpool till he discovered that they wanted to kill his girlfriend.)
Psi-Borg/Aldo Ferro, Sluggo and Slayback haven't been seen yet in Weapon X and Silver Fox and Mastodon died before the new Weapon X-started.
Random's power works against mutant powers and adamantium isn't a mutant power. Then again he can take on an almost liquid form, so that should protect him against Wolverine's claws anyway.
Thanx a lot Dizzy D. Loved your Harley avatar btw.
-AK-
Dizzy D
11-15-2005, 05:49 PM
All this is from memory, but Random is made of protoplasm or something, which means he can reform his entire body whatever he wants. A by-product of this is that he has an increased resistance to attacks, but he is, to my knowledge, not immortal. What works on him once, won't work on him a second time. Interestingly, some of Claremont's original idea for Mr.Sinister were re-worked for Random's origin. He's a teenager who's remade himself to look like a what (at the time) steretypical teenager would deem to be a cool hero.
All this is from memory though, I may be off on a few details.
The teenager origin is a retcon though, because in the X-factor annual that takes place in Strong Guy's youth, Random (or at least somebody with the exact same powers) is seen mugging and killing a family.
Gavin Higginbotham, BotF
11-16-2005, 02:22 AM
Yeah, that always bugged me. Maybe that was the "original" Random who fell victim to Dark Beast at some point and was used as the basis of creating his own Random out of the teen.
Ryan K
11-16-2005, 07:36 AM
Is Random classified as dead? He was at Neverland same as Reyes and Marvel's said she is dead.
Dizzy D
11-16-2005, 09:39 AM
Is Random classified as dead? He was at Neverland same as Reyes and Marvel's said she is dead.
I don't think that Marvel considers Random important enough to make statements about, but he was with Diamond Lil and she has been seen since IIRC.
Asian Knight
11-16-2005, 03:32 PM
How old is Strong Guy really? I know this is a old issue, but I've seen a teen I believe with glasses and brown hair. After being hit by a bus, this teen turns out to be Strong Guy.
mattbib
11-16-2005, 05:31 PM
Could that be the issue of X-Factor that shows a flashback of Guido's origin?
Asian Knight
11-17-2005, 05:19 PM
I don't remember which issue. It was before Pietro joined X-Factor. I think when it was him, Alex, Lorna, and Multiple Man. Before Forge got into the picture.
I just remember a guy with brown hair and glasses being hit by a bus. And then the next page, it turned out to be him.
Dizzy D
11-17-2005, 05:53 PM
That's a flashback. One of the kids nearby tries to attack Guido then (his parents were killed by a mutant) and is stopped. They then move back to the present day where that guy is an adult. So I would guess that Guido is at the usual 21-35 age bracket most superheroes are.
DaniloV
11-19-2005, 10:11 AM
Hi people! i have been away since Grant Morrison's run (i stopped in the issue where Lorna is found and Magneto's last will is told) i know this is a bit of a bother but...could anyone give me a timeline of what's been going on with the Mutants in the marvel u.? :confused:
TheWolfOfAsgard
11-19-2005, 10:33 AM
Hi people! i have been away since Grant Morrison's run (i stopped in the issue where Lorna is found and Magneto's last will is told) i know this is a bit of a bother but...could anyone give me a timeline of what's been going on with the Mutants in the marvel u.? :confused:
Can a person post that much information in a single posting? :eek:
fishtaco
11-19-2005, 01:45 PM
Hi people! i have been away since Grant Morrison's run (i stopped in the issue where Lorna is found and Magneto's last will is told) i know this is a bit of a bother but...could anyone give me a timeline of what's been going on with the Mutants in the marvel u.? :confused:Go to www.uncannyxmen.net :)
The Fury
11-19-2005, 02:54 PM
Okay, this might be a hard one...well it is for me.
Anyway, I'd like to find out some references to when Xavier's reputation has been made worse by some of his shady or underhand doings. Much like the recent Sentient Danger Room thing.
If possible.
DaniloV
11-20-2005, 12:33 PM
Go to www.uncannyxmen.net :)
Thanks a lot man that was really helpful!! :D
Nightcrawler
11-20-2005, 12:39 PM
Okay, this might be a hard one...well it is for me.
Anyway, I'd like to find out some references to when Xavier's reputation has been made worse by some of his shady or underhand doings. Much like the recent Sentient Danger Room thing.
If possible.
The Xavier Protocols, for one.
The Fury
11-20-2005, 12:46 PM
The Xavier Protocols, for one.
Hehe, good point, how did i forget about those.
Crimson
11-20-2005, 12:48 PM
Hehe, good point, how did i forget about those.
Did the X-Men feel betrayed when he pretended to be dead and only Jean Grey knew?
That must of shaken their trust a bit.
Did the X-Men feel betrayed when he pretended to be dead and only Jean Grey knew?
That must of shaken their trust a bit.
Scott's inner dialogue from Uncanny X-Men #138 says Scott felt some kind of betrayel from Xavier's deception.
Asian Knight
11-21-2005, 07:20 PM
When exactly did Apocalypse become a metamorph?
And if he is the so called immortal that he is. Why does he need the Rejuv chamber?
Just curious. If Magnus was killed by Legion. What would happen? I know a shrine would be built. But would Magnus' Acolytes be merged with the X-Men?
Asian Knight
11-21-2005, 07:38 PM
Has there been another X-Man besides Gambit or Ice Man who reached full potential? I mean besides breeding that is like Nate.
Why does the world treat Captain America like he's a hero. I mean the X-Men have sorta saved Earth countless of times from threats far greater. And they've proved time & time again that there are heroic mutants as there are bad ones.
How many heroic teams can actually be considered allies of the many X-Teams? I know Alpha Flight is one.
Also, what is the difference between our Victor & his AoA counterpart? I thought they were raised the same. I mean beaten as small children. What made the AoA victor become a hero?
Also in AoA. Did Weapon X & Sabretooth actually get along?
Alpha to Omega
11-21-2005, 09:23 PM
Does anybody know what happened in the issue of What If? where Storm recieved the Phoenix Force instead of Jean?
mattbib
11-21-2005, 10:40 PM
When exactly did Apocalypse become a metamorph?
And if he is the so called immortal that he is. Why does he need the Rejuv chamber?
He's been a metamorph since his first appearance, IIRC. You can find out pretty much everything there is to know about Apocalypse here (http://uncannyxmen.net/db/article/showquestion.asp?faq=4&fldAuto=84).
Just curious. If Magnus was killed by Legion. What would happen? I know a shrine would be built. But would Magnus' Acolytes be merged with the X-Men?Do you mean what would have happened instead of the Age of Apocalypse? Who knows. Very likely the same type of reality, just with Xavier in Magneto's place.
mattbib
11-21-2005, 10:45 PM
Has there been another X-Man besides Gambit or Ice Man who reached full potential? I mean besides breeding that is like Nate.Lots of X-Men have reached the ultimate potential of their powers. Or maybe they haven't. It really depends on what a writer wants to do with a character. For instance even though his secondary mutation kicked in I doubt most people would consider Iceman to have reached his full potential. Jean Grey, however, is probably the ultimate example of a mutant reaching their full potential.
Why does the world treat Captain America like he's a hero.Because he is a hero. I mean the X-Men have sorta saved Earth countless of times from threats far greater. And they've proved time & time again that there are heroic mutants as there are bad ones.
They're still dirty mutie freaks who've for the most part hidden themselves and worked in secret.How many heroic teams can actually be considered allies of the many X-Teams? I know Alpha Flight is one.Fantastic Four, Avengers, Power Pack, Micronauts, Starjammers, New Warriors, ClanDestine, the original and Next Generation crews of the U.S.S. Enterprise ...and surely some others.
Also, what is the difference between our Victor & his AoA counterpart? I thought they were raised the same. I mean beaten as small children. What made the AoA victor become a hero?
Also in AoA. Did Weapon X & Sabretooth actually get along?I don't recall.
Alpha to Omega
11-21-2005, 10:48 PM
Do you mean what would have happened instead of the Age of Apocalypse? Who knows. Very likely the same type of reality, just with Xavier in Magneto's place.
Warren Ellis wrote an issue of What If? based on that.
Nightcrawler
11-27-2005, 03:00 PM
What would happen if Wolverine bent his hand back as far as possible, then tried to activate his claws? They're stored in his forearms, right? Adamantium doesn't usually bend too well.
The Fury
11-27-2005, 03:02 PM
What would happen if Wolverine bent his hand back as far as possible, then tried to activate his claws? They're stored in his forearms, right? Adamantium doesn't usually bend too well.
The strength of his tendons that push the claws out would not be strong enough to go through the adamantium cover hand bones. So the claws would just stop.
Well, that my view on it anyway.
mattbib
11-27-2005, 03:03 PM
Presumably there's some natural failsafe mechanism in his physiology that would prefent the claws from extending while his hands are in a prone position.
bagheera
11-28-2005, 06:30 PM
Requesting help from you fanboys!
Where is the rest of this picture?
I assume it was from a line-up that included Wolvie and other superheroes. I recently saw a line-up of various female superheroes in Wizard, from Bruiser to Supergirl to Wonder Woman.
Does anyone have this whole picture? It would be much appreciated.
TheWolfOfAsgard
11-28-2005, 06:32 PM
Requesting help from you fanboys!
Where is the rest of this picture?
I assume it was from a line-up that included Wolvie and other superheroes. I recently saw a line-up of various female superheroes in Wizard, from Bruiser to Supergirl to Wonder Woman.
Does anyone have this whole picture? It would be much appreciated.
I don't know where you could find it but it looks like one of the lineup pics that they showed with the power level breakdowns that ranked Marvel heroes by their power and strength. It was The Heavyweights, the middleweights and lightweights sort of thing. Looks like that anyway.
Asian Knight
11-29-2005, 04:14 PM
Just curious about something. Did Weapon X aka Logan ever get along with Victor during the AoA? Or is it the same as our 616 universe?
How did Logan a stump for a hand in the AoA universe? I thought that the adamantium would stop this sort of thing. Or at least wouldn't his healing factor kick in and heal the injuries before it was cut off?
mattbib
11-29-2005, 05:18 PM
Just curious about something. Did Weapon X aka Logan ever get along with Victor during the AoA? Or is it the same as our 616 universe?They were both X-Men, so presumably they could at least put aside any differences they had.
How did Logan a stump for a hand in the AoA universe? I thought that the adamantium would stop this sort of thing. Or at least wouldn't his healing factor kick in and heal the injuries before it was cut off?Cyclops blasted his hand off (and it was Logan who gouged out Cyke's other eye). Presumably the kinetic force cauterized the wound and prevented its regrowth. Or not; just thinking of something that could cause cauterization since the blast doesn't give off heat.
Dizzy D
11-29-2005, 05:20 PM
Cyclops blasted his hand off (and it was Logan who gouged out Cyke's other eye). Presumably the kinetic force cauterized the wound and prevented its regrowth. Or not; just thinking of something that could cause cauterization since the blast doesn't give off heat.
Wolverine's healing at that time was not so fast that he would regenerate a lost hand in seconds, so probably whoever gave him medical attention (possibly himself) would have cleaned the wound and then sealed it up to prevent further bloodlust. (one interview said that Wolverine himself put that metal stump on there before the hand could grow back.)
bagheera
11-29-2005, 06:26 PM
I don't generally consider a "healing power" to imply regeneration of lost limbs. If Scott's optic blast tore the tendons and tissues away, blasting his hand off his forearm, then it would not regenerate.
What annoyed me is that the actual fight scene that occurred in was never seen in a comic, was it? That would have been a fight to behold.
Nightcrawler
12-04-2005, 04:37 PM
When is Astonishing X-Men supposed to start up again?
streator
12-04-2005, 04:38 PM
When is Astonishing X-Men supposed to start up again?
issue 13 is solicited for february.
takashimiike
12-04-2005, 07:44 PM
How many Guthries are there? I know of Husk, Canonball, and Icarus. But I heard the name of a 4th one the other day (dont remember what it was) and was wondering just how many mutants are in this family.
xakko
12-04-2005, 07:50 PM
How many Guthries are there? I know of Husk, Canonball, and Icarus. But I heard the name of a 4th one the other day (dont remember what it was) and was wondering just how many mutants are in this family.
per this (http://www.uncannyxmen.net/db/spotlight/showquestion.asp?faq=10&fldAuto=80) , Sam has eight brother & sisters, as well as his mother and an uncle.
Melody must be one of the unnamed sisters listed. Sam, Paige, Melody, Josh/Jay, and Jeb are all known mutants, at least pre-HoM.
Dizzy D
12-04-2005, 08:40 PM
per this (http://www.uncannyxmen.net/db/spotlight/showquestion.asp?faq=10&fldAuto=80) , Sam has eight brother & sisters, as well as his mother and an uncle.
Melody must be one of the unnamed sisters listed. Sam, Paige, Melody, Josh/Jay, and Jeb are all known mutants, at least pre-HoM.
Age of Apocalypse also had his sister Elisabeth as a mutant (a megamorph).
Blackcat
12-05-2005, 02:04 AM
Age of Apocalypse also had his sister Elisabeth as a mutant (a megamorph).
Liz does live in this reality too (see: she lies with Angels), but not proven to be a mutant as far as I remember.
Asian Knight
12-08-2005, 05:17 PM
I know the connection of Wolverine and Wild Child. But what's the connection between Kyle & Victor besides the fact that they were both X-Factor & Weapon X members.
Speaking of Kyle, did Xavier offer him admission into the X-Men once before? Just curious.
streator
12-08-2005, 06:32 PM
I know the connection of Wolverine and Wild Child. But what's the connection between Kyle & Victor besides the fact that they were both X-Factor & Weapon X members.
Speaking of Kyle, did Xavier offer him admission into the X-Men once before? Just curious.
there's no other connection. xavier never offered him admission into the x-men, either. in fact, i don't know if they've ever even met.
there's a wildchild spotlight at uxm:
http://www.uncannyxmen.net/db/spotlight/showquestion.asp?faq=10&fldAuto=81
Asian Knight
12-15-2005, 04:52 PM
I know that this possibly isn't a X-Question but I figured this was the place to put it.
As Gambit is said to have a hypnotic voice or something of the sort as a mutant power. Would this actually be amplified by DareDevil's heightened senses? In other words, could Gambit use this as an advantage over DareDevil? Or does this trick only work on women?
streator
12-15-2005, 11:10 PM
I know that this possibly isn't a X-Question but I figured this was the place to put it.
As Gambit is said to have a hypnotic voice or something of the sort as a mutant power. Would this actually be amplified by DareDevil's heightened senses? In other words, could Gambit use this as an advantage over DareDevil? Or does this trick only work on women?
gambit has been shown to have a "hypnotic charm", but it hasn't been consistent from writer to writer. i don't think gambit's charm would affect murdock.
grampa doowop
12-16-2005, 12:17 PM
Was it ever explained why Dark Beast didn't mutate to cat-Beast like the real McCoy during the whole secondary mutation wave? Haven't read much of Excalibur, Vol. 2. Was it because of the experiments he conducted on himself during the AoA...He did do that right or am I making that up?
mattbib
12-16-2005, 12:20 PM
Was it ever explained why Dark Beast didn't mutate to cat-Beast like the real McCoy during the whole secondary mutation wave? Haven't read much of Excalibur, Vol. 2. Was it because of the experiments he conducted on himself during the AoA...He did do that right or am I making that up?The Beast was turned cat-like because Sage triggered that secondary mutant gene, not because of a natural secondary mutation.
Crimson
12-16-2005, 12:20 PM
Was it ever explained why Dark Beast didn't mutate to cat-Beast like the real McCoy during the whole secondary mutation wave? Haven't read much of Excalibur, Vol. 2. Was it because of the experiments he conducted on himself during the AoA...He did do that right or am I making that up?
Most likely it's because of the experiments but then again we know environment has an effect on mutation (Magneto’s delayed mutant powers etc.). Due to the world of AoA for all we know that could of delayed it or made it so he’d never mutate again.
Alpha to Omega
12-17-2005, 12:31 AM
Has it ever been explained why the blue leggings of Colossus' classic costume would disappear when he armored up and reappeared when he returned to human form?
riotgear
12-17-2005, 09:23 AM
Has it ever been explained why the blue leggings of Colossus' classic costume would disappear when he armored up and reappeared when he returned to human form?
Unstable molecules.
Haunt
12-17-2005, 09:43 AM
Has it ever been explained why the blue leggings of Colossus' classic costume would disappear when he armored up and reappeared when he returned to human form?
pants gnomes
TheWolfOfAsgard
12-17-2005, 10:02 AM
pants gnomes
Are those related to the Underwear gnomes that were stealing Tweaks underwear?
Has it ever been explained why the blue leggings of Colossus' classic costume would disappear when he armored up and reappeared when he returned to human form?
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Alpha to Omega
12-17-2005, 06:27 PM
unstable molecules
Then shouldn't his shirt disappear as well?
west3man
12-19-2005, 06:35 AM
Rachel has the natural ability to move someone's psyche through time & space as she did with the adult Kate Pryde to displace Kitty Pryde on Earth 616. However, Rachel Summers innate ability to use her powers as Phoenix abled her to move her body into the past. Kate hypnotized Rachel so she would escape her nightmare world when she spoke the words, "Dark Phoenix." Subconsciously, Rachel tapped into her own powers as Phoenix to move from her future to the mainstream Marvel Universe Earth. Rachel's time travel powers is just an extension of her own telepathy & telekinesis.
I tried some searches before asking this (which is how I found this and other posts). Sorry if it's still repetitive.
Rachel's past and history have been laid out previously. Is this a different Rachel from the one who wore skin-tight red leather or whatever, complete with spikes and facial scarring/tattoos OR has her (and, consequently others') destiny been changed OR has this remained unexplained, as of yet OR...? :)
Thanks, in advance.
mattbib
12-19-2005, 10:05 AM
Rachel's past and history have been laid out previously. Is this a different Rachel from the one who wore skin-tight red leather or whatever, complete with spikes and facial scarring/tattoos OR has her (and, consequently others') destiny been changed OR has this remained unexplained, as of yet OR...? :)Same Rachel. Her exact future won't come to pass since some of the events that caused it to come about have been stopped, or delayed, but I believe there's still a chance of the DoFP future occurring. Is that what you're asking?
west3man
12-19-2005, 10:29 AM
Same Rachel. Her exact future won't come to pass since some of the events that caused it to come about have been stopped, or delayed, but I believe there's still a chance of the DoFP future occurring. Is that what you're asking?
Pretty much.
So, the other Rachel never existed, "now," Cable was never taught by the clan she started, etc.? wow
Man, seems like Marvel should just allow for multiple co-existing timelines and call it a day. Unlimited positive potential. Limited potential for paradoxes.
Thanks, btw.
mattbib
12-19-2005, 10:38 AM
Pretty much.
So, the other Rachel never existed, "now," Cable was never taught by the clan she started, etc.? wow
Cable's future was supposedly eliminated when Apocalypse was killed. Rachel's time with the Askani was a result of being lost in the timestream, not part of an alternate future. So while that future was (again supposedly" eliminated, she and Cable still remember those events. Of course now that Apocalypse is coming back, who knows what's going on. I guess Cable's future wasn't eliminated after all.
west3man
12-19-2005, 10:51 AM
Cable's future was supposedly eliminated when Apocalypse was killed. Rachel's time with the Askani was a result of being lost in the timestream, not part of an alternate future. So while that future was (again supposedly" eliminated, she and Cable still remember those events. Of course now that Apocalypse is coming back, who knows what's going on. I guess Cable's future wasn't eliminated after all.
I guess that's part of my problem. I never expected Poccy to stay deceased. I never even the read the story where it happened.
It ain't rhetoric when people say the revolving door that replaced the Heavenly Gates has hurt comics. But, that's for another thread.
I tried some searches before asking this (which is how I found this and other posts). Sorry if it's still repetitive.
Rachel's past and history have been laid out previously. Is this a different Rachel from the one who wore skin-tight red leather or whatever, complete with spikes and facial scarring/tattoos OR has her (and, consequently others') destiny been changed OR has this remained unexplained, as of yet OR...? :)
Thanks, in advance.
On Rachel's alternate Earth, Senator Robert Kelly's death sparked anti-mutant hysteria in which the Shadow King further fueled which culminated in Sentinels ruling America under marshal law. However, in the mainstream Marvel Universe Earth, Senator Robert Kelly is responsible for anti-mutant legislation.
Rachel's timeline did not diverge when Kelly died. Rachel's timeline diverged from the mainstream Marvel Universe as shown in Phoenix: The Untold Story #1 in which Jean Grey, Phoenix, lived; as a result, Rachel Anne Summers was born not long after Jean married Scott Summers.
Dizzy D
12-19-2005, 11:15 AM
Cable's future was supposedly eliminated when Apocalypse was killed. Rachel's time with the Askani was a result of being lost in the timestream, not part of an alternate future. So while that future was (again supposedly" eliminated, she and Cable still remember those events. Of course now that Apocalypse is coming back, who knows what's going on. I guess Cable's future wasn't eliminated after all.
Other timetravellers have said that Cable eliminated his own timeline though, so apparently Cable did enough to prevent his exact future without actually killing Apocalypse. (In fact Cyclops sacrificing himself to stop Apocalypse in the Twelve seems to be the moment the future changed in the Cable-solo series, not Cable eliminating Apocalypse from Cyclops' body.)
Does Rachel remember the Askani-future? Due to the Twelve, she never lived that future and she told Cable when he rescued her that the last thing she remembered as disappearing shortly after Jean and Cyclops' wedding.
Alan2099
12-19-2005, 11:17 AM
With rare exceptions, most of the time time travelers can't change the past anyway. They just create other alternate futures.
grampa doowop
12-20-2005, 11:53 AM
The Beast was turned cat-like because Sage triggered that secondary mutant gene, not because of a natural secondary mutation.
Most likely it's because of the experiments but then again we know environment has an effect on mutation (Magneto’s delayed mutant powers etc.). Due to the world of AoA for all we know that could of delayed it or made it so he’d never mutate again.
So I'm almost a week late, but a big thanks to mattbib and Crimson for answering my question.
Flight
12-20-2005, 12:10 PM
This has been troubling me for a while.
Does anyone know if Sage prefers Mcdonalds to eating in restaurants? My brother told me she flat out refuses to use forks in public places and she DEFINITELY won't speak to waiters. She calls then GUANATOPS apparently.