DC League- Donald Stone vs. Da Nole Savage

[Nightcrawler]

Anyone can vote. Please read both strategies before voting.

Donald Stone- Supergirl, Majestic, Power Girl, Starfire

Da Noble Savage- Black Adam, Lady Quark, Atom II, Lightray, Brainwave I, Arion, Geo-Force


Here is Da Nable Savage's strategy:

as soon as the match starts.
1. arron erect a barrier around my team that protects them from all forms of attack.
2. geo force and Light ray’s mother box (which is standard equip. for any new god )erect a intenseness gravity field around the opositeing team not alot just enough to slow the speed blizters down to normal speed.
3. lady quark transmutes the gloves of the atom II into kryptonite then he rides a beam of light generated by lightray into the brain of supergurl and then precedes to get funky with it on her medulla alba gouda.
4.geo force and Light ray’s mother box (which is standard equip. for any new god )erect a intenseness gravity field around Mr. majestic preventing him from moving in anyway.
Then the mystic barrier goes down at the same time that arron erects one around the head of majestic to prevent any flash vison saningions. He also erects a barrier around the hands of starfire. Black adam takes out power girl in record time light ray and lady quark and arron combine to take out starfire who’s starbolts are being stopped by the barrier. Then with both of them down they all concentrate there attacks on a unmovable majestic then arron lowers the barrier around his head so that he can attack him more too. Then off with the barrier down majestic well try to use his flash vison which is what arron is waiting for as soon as he fire’s it arron well throw up a teleport gateway in front of the attack teleporting it behind majestic and using it to severe his spine.


And Donald Stone's:

At the bell, my team takes to the air. Supergirl instantly rushes Black Adam, heat vision going full bore till she can get close and attack. She is at least Superman's equal, maybe more powerful, so she can keep him busy for a while.

Majestic instantly fries Atom II with his heat vision, then takes out Lady Quark. Majestos is faster than Superman, so he should be able to do so before the other team can react.

Power Girl blitzs Brainwave, using her heat vision to seriously injure him, then rushing in for the knockout before he can think.

Starfire will blast Geo-Force with everything she has, then either close in, or if he's down move over to Arion.

3 of my characters are near lightspeed, so they should be able to act before the other team can.

Now, at this point Adam is engaged with Supergirl, and Lightray and possibly Arion are still up. Majestic heads over and attacks Adam while Power Girl and Starfire blitz Lightray and Arion. That fight shouldn't take very long, and then they can assist with Black Adam.

If, for some reason Power Girl and Starfire get into any trouble, Supergirl will break off from Adam and assist. Majestic is superior to Adam, so he should win that fight eventually, but once the rest of his team is free they can dogpile Adam and finish him off.

[The Wayner]

So far, I think this has been the toughest for me to decide. However, I'll side with Donald Stone in this one.

[da noble savage]

the problem is i shut down the speed blitz from jump and they all take time to build up to lightspeed so there not going that fast from jump. And gravity should still effect them in the air or on the ground. And how is starfire going to take out a new god and a magican that was ruler of atlanis for what a 1000 yr.s or something.

[Donald Stone]

the problem is i shut down the speed blitz from jump and they all take time to build up to lightspeed so there not going that fast from jumpYes they are. Both Superman and Majestic have reflexes and reaction times near or above lightspeed. Supergirl has been said to be more powerful than Clark, so she should be at least as fast.

[da noble savage]

Yes they are. Both Superman and Majestic have reflexes and reaction times near or above lightspeed. Supergirl has been said to be more powerful than Clark, so she should be at least as fast.

yes but not from jump they have to build up to lightspeed. And I shutdown the speedblitz with gravity I'm pretty sure a mother box and geo force can produce enough gravity to keep them at normal speed. Not to mention the barrior around my team.
But i'll leave it up to the mass's to decide, by the way I really want one of those avi.s u got I love it everytime i see it.

[Jessica Drew]

I'm voting for Donald Stone, mainly because I don't think Da Nole Savage's team can win after Donald's first-stage speed feats.

BTW, Da Nole Savage, I love your referring to the medulla oblongata as the "medulla alba goula." That's hilarious.

[da noble savage]

I'm voting for Donald Stone, mainly because I don't think Da Nole Savage's team can win after Donald's first-stage speed feats.

BTW, Da Nole Savage, I love your referring to the medulla oblongata as the "medulla alba goula." That's hilarious.

lol ya I know my spelling is horriable. I'm the reason spell check was invented.
but serousily does no one think geoforce and a mother box could put up enough gravity to slow these guys down.

[Hellpop]

lol ya I know my spelling is horriable. I'm the reason spell check was invented.
but serousily does no one think geoforce and a mother box could put up enough gravity to slow these guys down.

How exactly do you mean? Is Lightray using the Mother Box to enhance Geo Force's power? It may not matter, though. Those guys... they're pretty powerful. I don't envy you, having to come up with a strategy to beat them.

[da noble savage]

How exactly do you mean? Is Lightray using the Mother Box to enhance Geo Force's power? It may not matter, though. Those guys... they're pretty powerful. I don't envy you, having to come up with a strategy to beat them.

the mother box can increase gravity in a area i'm useing it and geo force to increase the gravity around the oppoiseing team enough to slow down any speed blitz. Also my whole teams behind a barrier from jump.

[Jessica Drew]

lol ya I know my spelling is horriable. I'm the reason spell check was invented.
but serousily does no one think geoforce and a mother box could put up enough gravity to slow these guys down.

Yes, I do, but I also think that Donald's team could strike whom he said they'd strike before Geo-Force and and the mother box could start working.

[da noble savage]

Yes, I do, but I also think that Donald's team could strike whom he said they'd strike before Geo-Force and and the mother box could start working.

Even through the sheild that arron has and we don't start right next to each other right. Dont we start like a 100 ft away and these guys are fast but not light speed from jump. that should give me one second at least. And that's all geoforce or the mother box's needs actally less then a second these guys arn't flash speed there not hiting me before i can think or anything. ANd all it takes is a thought to activate both geoforce and motherbox.

[Jessica Drew]

Even through the sheild that arron has and we don't start right next to each other right. Dont we start like a 100 ft away and these guys are fast but not light speed from jump. that should give me one second at least. And that's all geoforce or the mother box's needs actally less then a second these guys arn't flash speed there not hiting me before i can think or anything. ANd all it takes is a thought to activate both geoforce and motherbox.

Uh, Supergirl and Majestic can hit light speed from jump. Not sure about Power Girl (her powers and their limits often--and especially recently--vary)

[raoulduke]

Got to vote for Donald Stone.

His strategies exactly what I expected he'd use with a team like this. Good show.

[Lex]

Uh, Supergirl and Majestic can hit light speed from jump. Are you saying that these two can go from 0 to lightspeed instantly? I don't know about that.

[Hellpop]

Savage, I voted for ya, because I think you came up with the best strategy you could against all those powerhouses.

[Dark Soul # 7]

I voted for Donald Stone because of his massive speed-blitz, but savage gets points for the originality with his "Atom with a kryptonite glove inside Supergirl´s head tactic".

[Apathy Boy]

Majestic is a beast, but I'm going to give Savage my vote, darn it. His strategy's way too innovative to discount. Plus, Lightray's as fast as anyone in this match-up, so I'm sure he can buy enough time for Mother Box to work her crazy magic.

I will say this, though: Savage's strategy feels like it ended a little early. I'd buy Majestic being hurt by the scenario at the end, but not finished by it. However, I do think Savage's team would have enough firepower to subdue him afterwards, so I'm sticking with my vote.

[Anthony]

My problem with Donald's strategy is that he wants to blitz Lightray. Lightray is probably one of the fastest people in the tournament. And the motherbox is a sentient computer that can think as fast as it needs to.

Edit - That and AFAIK, Power girl doesn't have heat vision. At least not Heat vision she can control. I always thought we go with most consistent version. If it's latest version, Donald's team has a big problem, since just being in close proximity to Supergirl is going to screw PG and her powers over.

My problem with Savage's strategy is that he didn't really utilize that speed to it's utmost advantage. Right now I'm split. I'll have to mull it over a bit.

[K'Nort]

Even through the sheild that arron has and we don't start right next to each other right. Dont we start like a 100 ft away and these guys are fast but not light speed from jump. that should give me one second at least. And that's all geoforce or the mother box's needs actally less then a second these guys arn't flash speed there not hiting me before i can think or anything. ANd all it takes is a thought to activate both geoforce and motherbox.

If Arion's shield is really powerful, will it interfere with Geoforce and/or the mother box at all?

[Jared_Humpherys]

I'm gonna have to give it to da noble savage here, for a couple reasons:

One: Powergirl has not shown control over her heat vision as of yet(hell, it's only appeared in 5 or so issues Post-Crisis). Second, she seems to have trouble in close proximity to Kara. Third, I really don't recall ANY ftl speed feats from Powergirl. Hell, IIRC, she had a tough time catching a bullet from Crimson Avenger. Also, speedblitzing against New Genesis technology, Black Adam AND Lightray is a very hard thing to do. Also, the shield da nobe savage had Arion put up will likely help against Starfire's onslaught(Arion's got some mean magical feats up his sleeve).

I think da noble savage could have done a few things more effectively(using Arion or Black Adam to take out Kara would have been better than the Atom/Lightray method, which could then have been used on Majestic, without a kryptonite glove). Also, I doubt mother box could stop Majestic from moving entirely. Still, I find there are too many holes in Donald's strategy.

[RK_Striker_JK_5]

Wnet with dan noble savage on this one. Also loved the kryptonite glove thing.

[K'Nort]

I think the gravity would just slow down Donald's team, not stop them.

Power Girl could still take out Brainwave, without speedblitz and heat vision.

Black Adam could not quickly take out Power Girl.

And do we always assume that "take out" means pummel into unconsciousness? It's a really vague term but gets used a lot. Like Majestic vs Lady Quark. That might take a while.

Starfire absorbs solar energy, and I think that's what Lightray's attacks would be. So that could really shift the fight there.

Not sure Majestic would be able to instantly find Ray.


Combining the two strategies, Donald's team has the best chance.

[Anthony]

And do we always assume that "take out" means pummel into unconsciousness? It's a really vague term but gets used a lot. Like Majestic vs Lady Quark. That might take a while.


Personally, I look at "take out" as incapacitation that the opponent can't recover from. From some, like a Green Lantern (Kyle) taking out Mr. Terrific, it could range from knocking him unconscious to a simple bubble construct. For others, it would be hit them until they don't get up anymore (unconsciousness or death, depending on who is doing the attack).

Edit - also, I don't think Power Girl could get to Brainwave before Black Adam intercepts. The key for me is how well does savage's gambit on Majestic work. If it works really well, savage should be able to string together enough to win, if not then Donald's superior power would win out. I just wish I knew more about Lady Quark

[K'Nort]

Personally, I look at "take out" as incapacitation that the opponent can't recover from. From some, like a Green Lantern (Kyle) taking out Mr. Terrific, it could range from knocking him unconscious to a simple bubble construct. For others, it would be hit them until they don't get up anymore (unconsciousness or death, depending on who is doing the attack).

Well but if it depends on the character, then I don't think it works to just say "take out." The opponent and the voters need a chance to see what that method would be and decide for themselves whether it would actually be effective.

[Donald Stone]

A few things.

Where does this 'they need time to build up to lightspeed' thing come from, as both Clark and Majestos have shown, they don't.


Not sure Majestic would be able to instantly find Ray.He rewrote the Eradicator's programming (at lightspeed no less) by using his flash vision to re-arrange the protons traveling through his circutry.

I don't think Power Girl could get to Brainwave before Black Adam interceptsAdam will have Supergirl rushing him, and she's at least as fast as he is.

[Lex]

Well but if it depends on the character, then I don't think it works to just say "take out." The opponent and the voters need a chance to see what that method would be and decide for themselves whether it would actually be effective.I agree. There are too many vague terms like "take out" and "speedblitz" that aren't descriptive enough to help me understand what's going on.

[Donald Stone]

For the record, when I say 'take out' I mean knock unconcious or kill.

[da noble savage]

well basiclly by take out i ment knock out. When black adam fought the jla in black regin he had no problem takeing out P.G. pretty quick. I think it took all of one panel it didn't look like he was sweating it that much. And also it would be the mother box and geo force on majastic as I figured one wouldn't be enough and I doudt we could hold him forever which is why I came up with the use his heatvision to kill or hurt him. And I didn't use the(edit) atom (edit) on him beacuse i'm heard his inside are as durable as supes and since specal k would work with him I went with the heatvision since i figured that if supes can be hurt by his heat visison so could he. Dont know if this is to late to sway any votes but figured i had to try.

[orrewhat]

I vote for savage

[da noble savage]

If Arion's shield is really powerful, will it interfere with Geoforce and/or the mother box at all?

It shouldnt' since it's just keeping out physical attacks and energy attacks.

[da noble savage]

A few things.

Where does this 'they need time to build up to lightspeed' thing come from, as both Clark and Majestos have shown, they don't.


well I don't know about majestos because I havent seen that much of him but I have never seen clark fight at lightspeed or shoot heat vision at light speed, and when majestos reprogramed the eridcater he was standing still not flying at superspeed scanning every where at the atomic level looking for him which is what u have majestos doing to find the atom and fry him. I mean I could see if he only had a central location to find him but once he goes atomic that's alot of area to cover.