Questions about X-Men #1 (Claremont/Lee)

[The Purple Skull]

Hey all. My store is selling it for only $3. I'm thinking about picking it up and I was wondering, what the issue was about and was it a self-contained issue?

[jcp011c]

It's a rebirth of the X-Men story, re-introducing the cast, restating the teams after the combination of X-Factor and UXM. It's a great storyline, one of the best half dozen I've read.

You'd want to read X-Men #1-3 for the whole storyline.

[Babylon23]

It's also a really fascinating Magneto story, and a great sendoff for the character. Of course, this being comics, he returned again...and again...and again...

[fishtaco]

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[LoneWolf21]

Also, the "special" version ofthe book, which has all of the varaint covers coneced together for one big image, has a few neat extra pin-ups and a sketch page, if you happen to really be fond of Lee's artstyle

[Steven F.]

Forge was never a member of the Gold team officially though, he, like Banshee and Xavier were part of the Mansion Staff. Although, Forge did appear is several issues before leaving because he thought Storm was going to say no to his proposal...(she was actually going to say yes though).

[Keith_Martineau]

X-Men 1-3 is my single favorite X-Men story ever. It is a mission statement for the X-Men, and also a mission statement for how Magneto was AND is. It covered his whole viewpoint, and inability to be the good guy, because people won't LET him be the good guy.

It also featured what I would consider to be Jim Lee's definative work with X-Men. We all know that Claremont left after 3, and Lee left after 10.

All of the characters voices, viewpoints and personalities were represented, explained and to certain degrees explored.

After reading those issues, you will know who the X-Men, and their biggest foe are, completely.

[fishtaco]

Forge was never a member of the Gold team officially though, he, like Banshee and Xavier were part of the Mansion Staff. Although, Forge did appear is several issues before leaving because he thought Storm was going to say no to his proposal...(she was actually going to say yes though).Yes they were. They went on missions, too.

[jadegiant77]

That was Claremont's last hurrah--his X-stuff hasn't beenas cool as those issues. I wish THAT Claremont was writing the X-books.

[Doom Hammer]

That was Claremont's last hurrah--his X-stuff hasn't beenas cool as those issues. I wish THAT Claremont was writing the X-books.

I hear you, man. I am in no way a Claremont hater. I seriously love him, respect him, all that. I like his work, but more importantly, I want to like his work.

But a lot of his current stuff...he's been seriously phoning it in.

I'll give him the benefit of the doubt, though. House of M and the inconsistincies following the ReLoad have thrown him for a loop. His current arc's pretty cool, and I'm sure New Excalibur will rock like no other.

After all this HoM stuff is over, and Claremont moves closer towards his #475 planned resolution to the mega-arc he has going on, I'm sure it'll all fall into place. He's still got it, and I'm sure we'll see it.

And not everything was bad, either...up until On Ice, his books was friggin' spectacular. It started to slide in various degrees then, gaining some momentum with the Mojo arc, then losing it with the current one. (IMO)

[fishtaco]

That was Claremont's last hurrah--his X-stuff hasn't beenas cool as those issues. I wish THAT Claremont was writing the X-books.I agree with you 100%, except that I wish he would be given the permission to be THAT Claremont.

[Frank]

That was Claremont's last hurrah--his X-stuff hasn't beenas cool as those issues. I wish THAT Claremont was writing the X-books.

Yea and that`s why I think what Bob Harras did was a crime. Lee & CC were on the verge of taking the World by storm, the two guys were bringing their "A" game, and X-Men 1-3 proved it. Basicly CC and Lee were the best super-hero creators in the World at that point in time. All what people viewed as CC writing messy undercypherable things were made cleaner and powerful by Lee`s artwork; all the shinny new school Image-style action was made more dense by CC`s writing.

My only problem with X-Men 1-3 is that in bringing back the older characters it destroyed one of the best X-Men crew ever(and very underrated since) wich was Wolverine-Psylocke-Jubilee/Banshee-Forge/Storm-Gambit.

[moebius]

Lee & CC were on the verge of taking the World by storm, the two guys were bringing their "A" game, and X-Men 1-3 proved it. Basicly CC and Lee were the best super-hero creators in the World at that point in time.


Jim Lee is at least partly to blame for Claremont leaving. My understanding was he pushed for more control, Harras sided with him, Claremont left, and then 4 issues later Lee left for Image. :rolleyes:


A small team of people who believe in Magneto's former ideals come to Asteroid M offer their services to him. Magneto is convinced by Fabian Cortez, their leader, to fully return to his evil ways.

I will disagree with you here. Magneto wasn't actually evil in this story, which is what makes him (and the story) so compelling to read. This isn't the "Magneto Wars" Magneto and it's certainly not the "Eve of Destruction" Magneto.

-He didn't retaliate against the SHIELD fighters until they shot one of the mutants.
-He went after the Leningrad's missiles as a means of defending himself and his followers.
-The X-Men (and particularly Wolverine) attacked him before he could explain his position.
-He genuinely wanted the X-Men to join him.
-He was super pissed about having his genetics messed with by Moira way back when.

[fishtaco]

I will disagree with you here. Magneto wasn't actually evil in this story, which is what makes him (and the story) so compelling to read. This isn't the "Magneto Wars" Magneto and it's certainly not the "Eve of Destruction" Magneto.

-He didn't retaliate against the SHIELD fighters until they shot one of the mutants.
-He went after the Leningrad's missiles as a means of defending himself and his followers.
-The X-Men (and particularly Wolverine) attacked him before he could explain his position.
-He genuinely wanted the X-Men to join him.
-He was super pissed about having his genetics messed with by Moira way back when.You are correct. I worded it wrong. SHIELD and the X-Men were asking for trouble. They were egging him on. I dont think Magneto has ever been evil. He does what he does for a noble cause, with good intentions. He is trying to make the world a better place (or what he percieves as a better place more likely), and that doesnt make somebody evil.

I want Magneto the hero and X-Man back. I found him to be ever so much more interesting that way. Excalibur (2nd Series) was a treat in that way, but stupid HoM got in the way. Bums :(

[Keith_Martineau]

It may have gotten in the way of Excalibur, but I still don't think Magneto is going to exit this storyline as a villain. He has not been presented as evil even once in HoM, and there is little evidence to support him being behind it.

Now whether he makes it out of HoM ALIVE is another matter entirely...

[chicainery]

Hey all. My store is selling it for only $3. I'm thinking about picking it up and I was wondering, what the issue was about and was it a self-contained issue?


I would suggest looking in your store's quarter bins before paying $3 for it. I've seen X-men #1 in quite a few.

[fishtaco]

Now whether he makes it out of HoM ALIVE is another matter entirely...And that is what I fear all the hype on the 8th issue is leading to... :(

[The Lucky One]

And that is what I fear all the hype on the 8th issue is leading to... :(

Wait... killing Magneto? Why, that could NEVER happen in a Marvel comic!

-D

[Erik Lehnsherr]

Cyclops, Storm, and Professor Xavier decide to split the X-Men into two teams. The Blue Strikefore was led by Cyclops, and was made up of Psylocke, Jubilee, Gambit, Beast, Rogue, and Wolverine. Storm's Gold Team was made up of Storm, Jean Grey, Colossus, Archangel, Iceman, and Forge.

A small team of people who believe in Magneto's former ideals come to Asteroid M offer their services to him. Magneto is convinced by Fabian Cortez, their leader, to fully return to his evil ways.

He fights the X-Men on Genosha, Rogue gets captured by Genoshan Magistrates... and then it continues in issues 2 and 3.

It's Chris Claremont's last story before leaving the X-books.

I dont like Magneto as a villain, and by this time Chris Claremont had very little say when it came to plot thanks to Bob Harras.

I didn't enjoy it that much, but I would still reccomend picking it up.

Magneto was convinced to return to his "evil ways"? Not really. He had to end up saving Rogue during her incompetence while straightening out the mess Moira McTaggart did in her "behavior modification" tinkering. But it is sad that Xavier almost had to pay the price for her crimes.

[spoon_jenkins]

You can find certainly find X-Men #1 for a lower price elsewhere (like at online retailers). But $3 for X-Men #1 is a lot more "bang for the buck" than recent issues of X-titles, so I'd say pick it up (plus #2 and #3) whether at that shop or somewhere cheaper.

If you can get the special version (#1E - which LoneWolf21 mentioned) combined all the cover variants in a gatefold cover and including all the pin-ups from the other variants, that would be your best choice.

[foxfire]

X-Men 1-3 is my single favorite X-Men story ever. It is a mission statement for the X-Men, and also a mission statement for how Magneto was AND is. It covered his whole viewpoint, and inability to be the good guy, because people won't LET him be the good guy.

It also featured what I would consider to be Jim Lee's definative work with X-Men. We all know that Claremont left after 3, and Lee left after 10.

All of the characters voices, viewpoints and personalities were represented, explained and to certain degrees explored.

After reading those issues, you will know who the X-Men, and their biggest foe are, completely.

I'd have to agree with this. Plus it was one of the first comics, and certainly the first X-comic I ever got, so I loved it. Like someome said, Lee and Claremont probably were the best comic book creators in the world at that time... sigh... its too much to hope that they ever work on X-Men again, isnt it.

[DDM]

I'd have to agree with this. Plus it was one of the first comics, and certainly the first X-comic I ever got, so I loved it. Like someome said, Lee and Claremont probably were the best comic book creators in the world at that time... sigh... its too much to hope that they ever work on X-Men again, isnt it.

When DC bought Wildstorm, Jim Lee has a deal that he is a DC exclusive. Marvel could buy out his contract, but it would be very expensive. Therefore, no, I don't see Lee working for Marvel anytime soon.

[fishtaco]

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