DC League Round 1- Jared Humphreys vs. RK Striker JK 5

[Nightcrawler]

Welcome to our first match of the season. Please read both strategies before voting. Anyone can vote, not just if you participate in the league.

Jared Humphreys- Replicant, Sabacc II, Hector Hammond, Circe, G'Nort, Crimson Avenger

RK Striker JK 5- Dr. Mid-nite, Sandman I, Mr. Terrific, Batgirl II, Poison Ivy, Sand, Hourman, Wildcat, Guardian, Lois Lane


Here is RK Striker JK 5's strategy:

Well, this is a tough team. Kudos to Jared on this one.
The first thing to do is get them off their ball game. Have Sand hit them with a simultaneous earthquake and sand storm. He's a pretty powerful geomorph, so it's within his powers.

Instead of having everyone flee for the city like in previous posts, have my fighters close to point-blank range. That's what most of them are best at, after all.

Have Cassie tackle Crimson Avenger II. She has nobody to seek vengeance for, and thus is somehwat directionless. I think Cassie can close in, get those guns and use them against her. And she is vulnerable to her own weaponry.

Meanwhile, Poison Ivy, Scarecrow and Sandman I have unleashed a full-fledged clour of pheremones, fear gas and truth serum/anasthetic into the midst of the enemy team. Mr. Terrific sends his T-spheres against Sabacc II with a little lightning storm. he was able to 'reboot' Black Adam and Marvel in an earlier JSA TPB, so I'm betting he can do something against the demon.

Circe gets entrapped in vines and cold-cocked by Lois while Hector gets an offer from Dr. Mid-Nite. The world's greates doctor will restore his mobility if he surrenders.

That leave G'Nort and Replicant. I believe he still has the yellow weakness, so Hourman gets sent in after him-and wrecks him. Finally, the entire team gangs up on Replicant and take him down.


And Part 1 of Jared Humphrey's strategy:

Looking at RK Striker’s team, there are a few glaring weaknesses that I can exploit:
-They have absolutely no telepathy or telepathic resistance.
-They have no magic or magic resistance.
-They have no super-speed.

I fully intend to exploit these and more.

Start of the round: G’Nort makes a floating platform that my nonfliers all step on and get lifted by(he’s dumb, but he’s more than capable of doing this. Hammond either gets a boost from G’Nort or telekinetically lifts himself on to it). This is to prevent Sand from using his earthquake powers on my nonfliers. They’ll also zap any t-sphere that approaches them.

As this is done, Replicant uses the powers gained from Mirror Master to make my team invisible, while also projecting holograms of my team about 75 feet in front of my team. There is a chance Dr. Mid-nite, Mr. Terrific, or perhaps Batgirl could see through this, but Mirror Master’s illusions have fooled people with better sense than theirs(and if Terrific tries to hide RK’s team with holograms, Replicant will be able to disrupt it with Mirror Master’s powers). He will also make a ice shield around my team, and change it to promethium using Alchemy’s powers(and he will also transform any of Sandman’s gas or Poison Ivy’s spores, pollen, or gas that nears my team into nitrogen)

Meanwhile, Sabbac II is going to speedblitz the opposing team(his speed is equal to that of the Marvel family), strafing them all with magical hellfire from his mouth and hands, focusing specifically on Sand and Hourman, in hopes to fuse the former with glass(likely even before he can use his earthquake powers), and fry the latter(Sabbac’s flames were enough to fry off the face of Grace from the Outsiders, and she’s taken down Mammoth). Sabbac doesn’t need to breathe, and he’s a creature of magic, so Sandman’s gas and Poison Ivy’s hypnotic pollen and/or spores won’t affect him.

Crimson Avenger, after hopping on the platform of G’Nort, aims and fires at Wildcat and Mr. Terrific. Avenger’s bullets can pierce through absolutely anything(she’s shot through Powergirl), and she’s already taken more than one life of Wildcat with them.

Hector Hammond is going to use his superior telepathy to shut down his opponent’s minds. To use a lesser feat, Hammond has projected visions of a man’s wife dying through over 20 feet of psionic shielding, and erased the mind of someone wearing a psionic dampener. He also has several feats on a higher tier than this, but I don’t want to play all my cards yet. Also, please note that none of RK’s team as ever shown that they wear a psi dampener with any consistency(not that it would matter much against Hammond), and none would have any time to make any.

[Nightcrawler]

Part 2 of Jared's strategy:

Circe is going to change all the men on RK’s team into pigs. She has transformed the entire city of New York into beasts before, and as mentioned earlier, RK’s team has zero magical defense. The only male who has any chance to remain as he is, is Sand(as he’s likely already out of the picture).

Again, all of the above is done with my team invisible thanks to Replicant.


Seconds after the fight begins:

Replicant combines the powers of Alchemy and Weather Wizard to make a class 5 tornado right in the midst of RK Striker’s team(Sabbac will still be there, but it won’t affect him much at all). He will also make sure there is a huge downfall of acid rain over them, as wall as massive amount of lightning(he’ll also use the weather wand to keep my team safe from this deluge). There is no one on RK’s team(except, just maybe, Hourman) who could even survive this, let alone stand up and keep fighting, especially with many of them pigs, and Hammond shutting down their minds.

G’Nort is going to make a shield with his ringo in front of my team, just because.

Sabbac, slowed by the storm, will pick off stragglers with hellfire or super-strength, and Circe will hurl magical bolts at them as well. Hammond uses a telekinetic assault on all of them, while Crimson Avenger shoots at them with pierce-anything bullets(and she doesn’t use sight as normal folks do: her senses are magical, so the storm a hundred yards away won’t affect her aim).


And now, for a couple contingencies:

If Midnite uses a blackout bomb on my team, Replicant will change it to air. If it’s used to conceal his own team, Replicant changes it to bromine gas.

If Sand is alive after Sabbac II, then Replicant will transform him into stone(Replicant can transform organic matter, and Sand has already been transformed by Catalyst in JSA). Also, Replicant could control Sand’s every move via the Mentachem wand(it controls any matter in its natural state, and has been used on sand in the past). Replicant could also use Heatwave’s powers to fuse him to glass, or freeze him solid with Cold’s powers.

Replicant will NOT, under any circumstances, attempt to absorb a t-sphere(he’ll blast it instead). Nor will he absorb any of his opponent’s weaponry. If needed, however, he will use the power gained from Angle Man’s angler to teleport their weaponry away.

No attempt will be made to engage Batgirl in physical combat. Any attempt by RK Striker’s team at direct physical combat(save to engage Sabbac) will be met with a barrier of absolute zero by Replicant, and a ringo shield from G’Nort.

If any team member needs to get in closer to RK’s team, they will be teleported via Replicant by either Mirror Master’s or Angle Man’s powers.

If G’Nort or Crimson Avenger falls, Replicant will absorb their weapons and use their powers.

If Sand attempts to shoot rock up from the earth, it will be deflected by G’Nort or turned into nitrogen by Replicant. If Sand manages to cause a fissure before my nonfliers can get on G’Nort’s platform(which he shouldn’t, thanks to Sabbac), Replicant will either seal it with the mentachem wand, or teleport my team away(Replicant can fly due to the anti-gravity belt absorbed in Flash #155).

[The Wayner]

Jared takes this one. :cool:

[Jared_Humpherys]

The first thing to do is get them off their ball game. Have Sand hit them with a simultaneous earthquake and sand storm. He's a pretty powerful geomorph, so it's within his powers.

Predicted this, and countered it first thing with G'Nort's platform.

Instead of having everyone flee for the city like in previous posts, have my fighters close to point-blank range. That's what most of them are best at, after all.

Expected them to get close, and countered with the shields and others.

Have Cassie tackle Crimson Avenger II. She has nobody to seek vengeance for, and thus is somehwat directionless. I think Cassie can close in, get those guns and use them against her. And she is vulnerable to her own weaponry.

Against, I explicitly predicted for Cassie to get in close, and countered.

Meanwhile, Poison Ivy, Scarecrow and Sandman I have unleashed a full-fledged clour of pheremones, fear gas and truth serum/anasthetic into the midst of the enemy team. Mr. Terrific sends his T-spheres against Sabacc II with a little lightning storm. he was able to 'reboot' Black Adam and Marvel in an earlier JSA TPB, so I'm betting he can do something against the demon.

Again, explicitly saw the gas and pheromones coming and countered with Replicant. As for Sabbac: he isn't powered by Shazam's magical lightning. His powers come from hell. Terrific's lightning ain't doing jack.

Circe gets entrapped in vines and cold-cocked by Lois while Hector gets an offer from Dr. Mid-Nite. The world's greates doctor will restore his mobility if he surrenders.

1st, Circle has enough maical power to easily counter the vines. She has magical power bolts of sufficient strength to stagger Wonder Woman. And Mid-nite can't restore Hector's mobility: it's a side-afect of his immortality. As a matter of fact, in the old GL series, Hammond has a choice between mobility and powerlessness, or paralysis, immortality, and retaining his powers. He chose the latter. And don't even get me started on the many ways RK's people have been taken out by this point anyways.

That leave G'Nort and Replicant. I believe he still has the yellow weakness, so Hourman gets sent in after him-and wrecks him. Finally, the entire team gangs up on Replicant and take him down.

RK explicitly told me his Hourman is the current JSA one(the son of the original), and that means a mostly black costume. Besides, Sabbac II has already dealt with him at this point.

RK Striker has a good strategy, but ultimately, I saw it all coming and countered it with my own, while he has done very little to defend his team from my onslaught.

[Taskmaster]

A heck of an effort my friend, but Jared takes this one

[Lex]

As much as I love an underdog to win against overwhelming odds, I'm afraid my vote is going to Jared. He successfully predicted and countered all of RK's moves. If this was the comics, I would've bet on RK's team coming through, but they were just overpowered in the strategies. You'll get 'em next time, RK!

My one criticism of Jared's strategy is that he has Replicant doing a whole lot of things at almost the same time. If Replicant is busying doing everything you want him to do, how would he be able to counter RK's team in the contingecies you wrote up? Luckily, you didn't need to use any contingencies. I was just curious.

There was one strategy RK could've used that would've been very effective against one of Jared's characters, so I was surprised not to see it. Oh well.

[Nightcrawler]

Jared countered almost everything RK threw at him. He gets my vote.

[RK_Striker_JK_5]

Well played, Jared. I was outclassed from the beginning, basically. I'll keep going, though.

Wait, Hourman... *Checks DC Encyclopedia* Damn! I always get those two mixed up!

[RK_Striker_JK_5]

And Taskmaster and Lex, thanks.

[Jessica Drew]

Jared. It almost seemed at times that he'd read RK's strategy before creating his own, because Jared's strategy seemed to predict nearly everything Striker did. That's pretty impressive, no matter who you've got on your team.

[RK_Striker_JK_5]

Jared. It almost seemed at times that he'd read RK's strategy before creating his own, because Jared's strategy seemed to predict nearly everything Striker did. That's pretty impressive, no matter who you've got on your team.


Well, there's only so much you can really do with my team, to be honest.

[Magneto_X]

Jared wins.

He's such a sneaky bastard! :)

[StarsAndGarters]

Oh Jared, you rascal. How do you do it?

[K'Nort]

Seems more thorough than sneaky. That was a heck of a lot of thought and planning. Very impressive.

Although RK certainly got pretty creative himself with a charismatic but low-powered group.

And could someone please define 'speedblitz' for a poor non-Rumbler?

[twilight]

I vote Jared but it does seem like most of the stuff you put in your strat was overkill.

[twilight]

And could someone please define 'speedblitz' for a poor non-Rumbler?

If Superman fought Captain America,Superman would be "speedblitzing" him simply because he is much faster than the captain.

[Lex]

If Superman fought Captain America,Superman would be "speedblitzing" him simply because he is much faster than the captain.

Yeah Superman is faster, so that's the "speed" part of speedblitz. What does the other part entail? It seems like a very vague term.

[RK_Striker_JK_5]

Yeah Superman is faster, so that's the "speed" part of speedblitz. What does the other part entail? It seems like a very vague term.


Blitz is a German word, not sure what it means but 'blitzkrieg' means lightning war. So fighting or something along those lines.

And why did I think Sabacc II had something to do with Marvel's powerset? I mean he's enemies with the Marvel family, but I should've known better...

I sense more curbstomps...

[twilight]

Yeah Superman is faster, so that's the "speed" part of speedblitz. What does the other part entail? It seems like a very vague term.

Well imagine if I was a hundred times faster than you.

I could punch you so fast that you couldn't react and that would be the "blitz" part.

[RK_Striker_JK_5]

And why did I think Sabacc II had something to do with Marvel's powerset? I mean he's enemies with the Marvel family, but I should've known better...



Wait, I wrote he could do something with the T-spheres and-oh, never mind. I lost before the match started.

[StarsAndGarters]

Wait, I wrote he could do something with the T-spheres and-oh, never mind. I lost before the match started.Actually, I thought your plan was going quite well until I read Jared's. I wouldn't give up, just realize that you have a harder road, that's all.

[Apathy Boy]

RK Striker JK 5 put together a pretty good strategy, but his team's way outclassed. Jared's team is much too powerful and he's done way too much homework.

RK Striker JK 5 also loses some style points for using a character he doesn't own. The Scarecrow belongs to Jessica Drew, doesn't he?

[Jessica Drew]

....The Scarecrow belongs to Jessica Drew, doesn't he?

Yup.........

[Dark Soul # 7]

Jared countered RK Striker perfectly so I´m gonna give my vote to him.
But won´t you have a bigger team for the next fight RK?

[Jared_Humpherys]

RK Striker JK 5 also loses some style points for using a character he doesn't own. The Scarecrow belongs to Jessica Drew, doesn't he?

Hey, you're right. Lucky for me I already had defenses against Sand's gas and Ivy's pollen.

Jared. It almost seemed at times that he'd read RK's strategy before creating his own, because Jared's strategy seemed to predict nearly everything Striker did. That's pretty impressive, no matter who you've got on your team.

I didn't read RK's strategy, I swear! Predicting the actions of my opponent has been something I've been working towards since the Crossover League(despite my lack of victories there, I'm still quite proud of predicting Micheal Pullman's telepathic linkup of Mr Fantastic and Jade). I seem to have gotten lucky this time. Hopefully it'll work for my next match as well.



My one criticism of Jared's strategy is that he has Replicant doing a whole lot of things at almost the same time. If Replicant is busying doing everything you want him to do, how would he be able to counter RK's team in the contingecies you wrote up? Luckily, you didn't need to use any contingencies. I was just curious.

There was one strategy RK could've used that would've been very effective against one of Jared's characters, so I was surprised not to see it. Oh well.

You do have a point, sir(and the more I think about it, I may be seeing what strategy you're talking about). As far as the contingencies go, if they conflict time-wise, think of it this way: defense before offense. Any of my offensive techniques can be moved back as long as I counter what the other team throws at me.

K'Nort, Magneto_X, and SaG, thanks bunches!

And twi: You may be right, but I wanted to make darn sure that the outcome would not be in question.

[Jared_Humpherys]

Oh, and as far as the term speedblitz goes:

Think of a group of criminals standing around with very big guns. Now picture the Flash punching all these guys out before one can even bat an eyelash. That's a speedblitz: a heavy-duty barrage at full-strength and full-speed that for all intents and purposes cannot be countered except by another speedster. Speedblitz can also refer to "moving and acting long before the other person can respond." Picture Sue Richards otu shopping with Franklin. Now picture the nw Zoom racing towards her. If she was faster than human, she could put up a force field in time to stop him. But Zoom is going near-lightspeed, and decks her before she can do so. That is also a speedblitz.

[Hellpop]

My favorite part of this was was the part about Circe being "cold- cocked" by Lois Lane. Good to see you getting a use out of everybody, RK :D .

[Anthony]

Jared covered most of the bases. Very solid win here.

Question where can I find some information on Sabacc? Is there a good site for DC characters to try and find more info on some of the people I'm not as familiar with.

[twilight]

Jared covered most of the bases. Very solid win here.

Question where can I find some information on Sabacc? Is there a good site for DC characters to try and find more info on some of the people I'm not as familiar with.

Well if you are looking Ant,you're looking for information on Sabbac II.

[Anthony]

Well if you are looking Ant,you're looking for information on Sabbac II.

Well not just him, but he was one of the ones I was trying to find out more about.

I guess me spelling it right would help loads though. I kept finding stuff on Star Wars and games. Thanks twilight.

[RK_Striker_JK_5]

Oh, nuts! I apologize, Jessica! *Striker bows maultiple times* I must've had a flashback to the Crossover League. Similiar teams and all... But still no excuse.

[Lex]

You might be able to find info on Sabbac at www.dcuguide.com (click on "Who's Who" and search by first letter).

Also, even though http://www.mykey3000.com/cosmicteams/ is mostly about DC teams, it has started posting individual character profiles.

These are fan sites, so don't expect them to be 100% (or in some cases even 50%) complete.

[Jared_Humpherys]

Sabbac II is said to b a slightly more powerful version of Sabbac I(Timothy Karnes).

Sabbac I originall appeared in

WORLD'S FINEST #269 - Jul 1981 (DC Comics)
Captain Marvel Jr. in Sabbac Strikes Back!

Sabbac I had 6 or so appearances. His powers are very similar to the Marvel family, except they come from the Hell lords Satan, Any, Beelzebub, Belial, Asmodeus, Craeteis. Also, Sabbac can wield hellfire, whereas the Marvel family can sue lightning(although Sabbac seems to be able to use it with a bit more variability).

Sabbac seemed somewhat stronger and more invulnerable than Captain Marvel Jr, although Freddy was able to keep up with him in speed(if Freddy could see him, he could keep pace). Sabbac also was unable to say his real name. He was defeated by capturing him when he was un-transformed. Sabbac II has sworn never to return to his human form, as that would leave him weak.

[da noble savage]

man striker i really wanted u to win cause I love street level teams. But man jarad just went into a spock mindmeld with you and stole ur strat. so i got to vote for him I was tempted just to vote for you just cause but that's not right and if comic's have tought me anything beside that a boomerang can beat the flash is that u got to do what's right. sorry but on the inside i'm voteing for you.

[K'Nort]

Re Sabacc II -- He's really only been in the current Outsiders, issues 08-10, so it could be worth just picking those up. It would probably be the second trade. Or your shop may let you read the issues.

Jared -- Could you list who all's powers Replicant has?

[Anthony]

Re Sabacc II -- He's really only been in the current Outsiders, issues 08-10, so it could be worth just picking those up. It would probably be the second trade. Or your shop may let you read the issues.

Jared -- Could you list who all's powers Replicant has?
If I recall correctly, Replicant has the powers of Mirror Master, Heatwave, Boomerang and Captain Cold for sure. I think he absorbed Piper's weapon so him as well. Don't know about the rest though. He may have all the powers of the Rogues that Neron owned at one time.

[da noble savage]

hey is replicant a robot with a human mind controlling it or what. Or is it a guy in a suit.

[Jared_Humpherys]

Jared -- Could you list who all's powers Replicant has?

Captain Cold
Heatwave
Mirror Master
Dr Alchemy(post-organic transmutation powers)
Piper(taken directly from)
Matter Master(taken from cache)
Angle Man(taken driectly from him)
The Raven(mentioned in comic, but happens off-panel)
Blackrock(from cache)
Weather Wizard

All of these, except for the Raven's antigravity belt, were replicated on-panel and mentioned by name(and powers were shown used).

Believe it or not, Captain Boomerang's stuff is never shown to eb absorbed by Replicant(not des he ever use any), so I discount that particular weapon. Replicant can also absorb and replicate any weapon he sees.

hey is replicant a robot with a human mind controlling it or what. Or is it a guy in a suit.

He's basically semi-organic weaponry. He has some degree of invulnerability(has take bullets and superspeed punches with little effect).

and btw: Good match RK Striker. I look forward to seeing your further battles.

[K'Nort]

When you say Replicant can "absorb and replicate any weapon he sees," do you mean all he has to do is see it and absorb it long-distance, or he actually has to get his hands on it? And what level of skill with the weapon comes with the absorption?

[Jared_Humpherys]

When you say Replicant can "absorb and replicate any weapon he sees," do you mean all he has to do is see it and absorb it long-distance, or he actually has to get his hands on it? And what level of skill with the weapon comes with the absorption?

The farthest distance I've seen him actually do it is 20 feet or so. However, it says in his Secret Files bio that he can replicate any weapon he sees, and he also says in the comics "Any weapon I see...I can replicate!" The implication with both is that he just needs line-of-sight. And besides, even if it has a limited range, the Angler can dimensionally place just about anything(in one comic he moved around Angle-Man, Donna Troy, and a statue at the same time directly to Angle Man's specifications), so it would be child's play for Replicant to get weapons at long range even if one can argue a limit to his absorbtion range.

As far as the skill goes, I'd say above average, as the weapons become a part of his body. He has used Mirror Master's powers for holograms and teleportation with no training, as well as, as he put it, "effortlessly" used the Weather Wand and philosopher's stone at the same time.

[Lex]

However, it says in his Secret Files bio that he can replicate any weapon he sees, and he also says in the comics "Any weapon I see...I can replicate!" The implication with both is that he just needs line-of-sight.

Eh, I really don't think that implies any weapon he sees no matter how far away. I think that just implies that he's able to replicate any type of weapon, but he has to be near it first.

Say, Hawkman brings the Claw of Horus onto the battle field. Could Replicant replicate it from 100 yards away? I don't know. But, if Hawkman got close enough, then sure Replicant could copy it. But that's my opinion.