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milk114
10-02-2005, 11:45 PM
it was great to see the Doom Patrol on the last two episodes of Teen Titans. And the ending of the last night's episode

(I suppose SPOILERS should go here)




with the Brotherhood of Evil being expanded to include all previous Teen Titans villians shown on the show and some not shown before was a great idea. I find the show works best with an overarching plot versus one-off episodes, but it'll be nice not focusing on Deathstroke every freakin' time i turn it on.

Of course, this made me think of the recent move in Justice League Unlimited of creating a Legion of Doom where all villians join together. I don't know if big teams are the in thing or if DC has a master plan between their different properties or what but it'll be fun to watch it play out.

I had a big question though... In Homecoming II Elastigirl calls Beast Boy "Garfield." Is this the first time any of the Titans are refered to by their first names?

I know Raven has no other name. But was Starfire called Koriand'r in the episode where they go to her homeworld? I only remember everyone calling her "princess" which freaked out Robin. Did Slade ever call Robin Tim, or Beast Boy call Cyborg Cliff?

It's interesting only because Raven and Starfire were seemingly shocked that Beast Boy's real name was Garfield. They live together, spend all their free time together, woulnd't they know each other's real names? Or is it like Magneto wanted in the early 90s were mutants (and in this case, folks with powers) throw off the names given to them by their oppressors and use only monikers they choose. Kunta Kinte, if you will.

These episodes with Doom Patrol and this thought of names led to me think about the adults in the Titans' lives. Is there a Batman in this world? A JLA? An Outsiders? Who raised these teens? Do they go to school? Sure, its just a cartoon that is supposed to be fun and have kick-ass action but the creators add details to ground the show in both the comics history and the reality of teenagehood.

(Maybe another SPOILER warning here)




I was looking around on imdb about the show and it listed guest appearances and titles through the end of the year. One is Michael Rosenbaum as Kid Flash. He of course voices the Flash on JLU and is Lex Luthor on Smallville. Is this a continuity between JLU and Teen Titans or just a nice nod of the head to Rosenbaum's good work on JLU and why fix it if it aint broker mentality? If Joker were to appear and Mark Hamill provided the voice would it be a similar thing or tie together Batman TAS and JLU and Superman Adventures and Teen Titans?

I know Im rambling here so to finish off I want to say that I would love to see the Outsiders on the show. Older, more seasoned heroes but not parental figures or tied to any one character. The Twenties Titans, if you would. Maybe a mix of the old and the new. And, like they successfully did with the Doom Patrol, include the new group not to take away from the Titans, but to add more character nuances through the two groups interaction. that is all.

Grant
10-03-2005, 12:09 AM
I was looking around on imdb about the show and it listed guest appearances and titles through the end of the year. One is Michael Rosenbaum as Kid Flash. He of course voices the Flash on JLU and is Lex Luthor on Smallville. Is this a continuity between JLU and Teen Titans or just a nice nod of the head to Rosenbaum's good work on JLU and why fix it if it aint broker mentality? If Joker were to appear and Mark Hamill provided the voice would it be a similar thing or tie together Batman TAS and JLU and Superman Adventures and Teen Titans?

My take is there is a Batman and probably a Justice League it's just not the exact same Batman and Justice League. The key difference it's implied this Robin is Dick.

It would be pretty cool if they had Batman appear and voiced by Kevin Conroy though.

Zeta
10-03-2005, 12:13 AM
But was Starfire called Koriand'r in the episode where they go to her homeworld

Yes, but it wasn't explicitly stated that was her name. Her nanny just said it along with a bunch of other Tameranianese that one really wouldn't notice if one was listening for it.

Did Slade ever call Robin Tim, or Beast Boy call Cyborg Cliff?

No, but Robin's double from a parallel universe has the name "Dick Grayson" backwards. Cyborg's real name is Victor Stone - he went by "Stone" while attending HIVE Accademy.

I was looking around on imdb about the show and it listed guest appearances and titles through the end of the year. One is Michael Rosenbaum as Kid Flash. He of course voices the Flash on JLU and is Lex Luthor on Smallville. Is this a continuity between JLU and Teen Titans or just a nice nod of the head to Rosenbaum's good work on JLU and why fix it if it aint broker mentality? If Joker were to appear and Mark Hamill provided the voice would it be a similar thing or tie together Batman TAS and JLU and Superman Adventures and Teen Titans?

Hrmm. Well, they're both the Wally West versions of Kid Flash and Flash, so they may write them as essentiall the same character. Who knows? Too bad Wonder Woman is in a state of perpetual licensing entanglements, or Wonder Girl would've been really nice.

Grant
10-03-2005, 12:23 AM
It's interesting only because Raven and Starfire were seemingly shocked that Beast Boy's real name was Garfield. They live together, spend all their free time together, woulnd't they know each other's real names?

Well it took Jerry, Elaine and George a few years before they found out Kramers first name ;)

Or Beast Boy could have went by Garth or gave a different first name.

Angel of Sorrow
10-03-2005, 12:36 AM
There is suppose to be the apperances of Kid Flash, Kole, Red Star, Argent, Pantha, Jericho and Bushido ( My favorite, though I hate that he's going to be in the show. )

Plus a few more, but I can't remember who.

Tennoarashi
10-03-2005, 07:46 AM
Does anyone know why Donna wasn't a major character in this, or at least showed up later?

I actually heard they weren't allowed to use her or something, but I have no concrete idea.

Captain Sarcasm
10-03-2005, 08:12 AM
My take is there is a Batman and probably a Justice League it's just not the exact same Batman and Justice League. The key difference it's implied this Robin is Dick.

It would be pretty cool if they had Batman appear and voiced by Kevin Conroy though.

I think that this stuff is all taking place early on in the B:TAS continuity - like shortly after the flashbacks in "Robin's Reckoning" or something.

I also go with the theory that the TT show is actually a cartoon show inside the DCAU, based on real events.

And yes, Batman showing up would be Teh Awesome indeed. I really wanna see how Raven reacts to him.

Crinos
10-03-2005, 08:44 AM
Well one of the episodes this season is going to be a flashback on how the titans first met.

Also, I think its been stated this is a different continuity from the DCAu proper.

milk114
10-04-2005, 01:31 AM
hahaha... im laughing at myself. cyborg's name is victor stone. i knew that. i wrote (and was thinking of) Cliff Steele, the Robotman of Doom Patrol Fame. that is all. the irony i can take tonight.

Stretch Dude
10-04-2005, 09:41 AM
Well one of the episodes this season is going to be a flashback on how the titans first met.

Frankly, it's about time the writers started getting rid of their self-imposed resctrictions on these things.

Also, I think its been stated this is a different continuity from the DCAu proper.

No kidding. :D