Who is Spider-Man's archfoe?

[Nightcrawler]

Who do you consider to be Spider-Man's greatest foe?

[Jake V]

It will always and forever be Norman Osborn, the Green Goblin.

Everyone else pales in comparison.

[Crimson]

It will always and forever be Norman Osborn, the Green Goblin.

Everyone else pales in comparison.

I agree with Green Goblin but... when he was dead it was Doc Ock.

[Dark Soul # 7]

Green Goblin without a second thought.
He´s not my favorite villain however.

[Captbigbeard]

Just so you know In my thread I did agree to GG being the archfoe, after being convinced by people that explained their facts without being an ass!

[Dark Soul # 7]

Who voted for Vulture?

[loc_zsu]

Green Goblin without a second thought.
He´s not my favorite villain however.
I agree with you there. I would rather it was Venom. He rocks!!!

[Captbigbeard]

Who voted for Vulture?

I DID MUWHAHAHAHA! J/K, but c'mon give the poor big bird wannabe a chance! He never gets a chance!

[Mideon]

Hypno-Hustler.

[creep]

I never really thought of Spider-Man having a specific archfoe, the comic to me has always been about Peter Parker first and then whatever villian he happened to be fighting this week. Spidey has probably the best rogue gallery of any hero but i never felt pressured to rank them individually.

As to the Green Goblin, i don't think he ever really reached that level until about one issue before he died, prior to that he was just Peter's friend's sort of goofy Dad, who occasionally had bouts of selective amnesia, which resulted in him putting on a costume and running amuck from time to time, but he never really amounted to much more than your average villian. It was really only the circumstances surrounding his death, and everything would stem from that, that i think, instilled his importance in a lot people's minds, Gwen Stacy's death, Harry's endless mental breakdowns, the Hobgoblin Saga.

and don't talk to me about whatever he's supposedly doing alive in the comics currently, as those comics suck ass, and don't deserve to be acknowledged.

You could make the arguement for J Jonah Jameson, as far as Spidey's foes have gone he's certainly been the most consistent. He's always had this crazed irrational hatred of Spider-Man you can just tell keeps him awake at night. He's done everything he can to slander Spidey's reputation. He's even gone as far to place bounties on his head and he's directly linked with the creation of a number of his villians such as the Scorpion and the Spider-Slayers.

[Captbigbeard]

Wow... I have to give you credit man, I never EVER thought of Jameson! Thats one hell of a good point! He should be on thie poll! Why is Venom in Italics do you hate him that much?

[creep]

Who voted for Vulture?

I did, what of it? I kind of like him. He's a better villian than he usually gets credit for. You can blame the guy who listed as him as an option. Besides, its just a poll on a freakin' message board, don't take it too seriously.

Wow... I have to give you credit man, I never EVER thought of Jameson! Thats one hell of a good point! He should be on thie poll! Why is Venom in Italics do you hate him that much?

I think its just, whoever you voted for shows up in italics.

[Dark Soul # 7]

I did, what of it? I kind of like him. He's a better villian than he usually gets credit for. You can blame the guy who listed as him as an option. Besides, its just a poll on a freakin' message board, don't take it too seriously.I asked a question, nothing more nothing less.

[Nightcrawler]

Wow... I have to give you credit man, I never EVER thought of Jameson! Thats one hell of a good point! He should be on thie poll! Why is Venom in Italics do you hate him that much?

Whoever you vote for gets italicized.

[ClumsyD]

Green Goblin hands down, but like others have said, he's not my favourite villian.

[Captbigbeard]

Whoever you vote for gets italicized.
COOlio! So Advanced yet so subtle!

[Piggy21]

I always thought doc Ock was his archnemisis? No votes for him? Venom and GG are kool but Doc Ock needs to be up there with them!

[StoneGold]

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[Alan2099]

Dr. Octopus. Green Golbin was a major player, but then he died, and since he's came back he's just become more a more a parody of himself. It's crazy.

Doc Ock and Spidey both have somewhat trouble childhoods, both are scientists, and both got their powers in lab accidents. There's a lot of similiarity there.

[Artemis1]

The Goblin up until the millenium. He has done many things. He's killed Gwen, kidnapped/murdered baby MJ, created a whole line of dangerous foes, ruined Harry, kidnaped Aunt May on many occasions, almost beat Spiderman to death, formed the Sinister Twelve, and more. He's like Peter's reflection. GG has his strength, his technology(and much more), is beyond Pete's intelligence, and had a choice to use his powers. There are many ways in which the Green Goblin is his greatest foe.

[Geardaddy]

I had to vote Norman Osborn. I'm sick to death of him these days (vastly overused in recent years) but he is Spidey's arch nemisis, no doubt about it.

[Elevation]

GG is Peters archnemesis he gets to Peter on a whole entire other level rather than just a physical battle.

Venom is Peters deadliest foe Peter knows that at any one moment Venom could have killed him if he so wished. When he was Eddie Brock

Doc Ock is a great supporting villian but not even close to arch foe

The Jackal????????????????????????????? cmon he turned Peters world upside down whether you liked it or not

Harry as the green Goblin had the best possibilities but i still think they killed him off too fast.

Kaine he is Peters complete opposite and he wants revenge perhaps we will see more of him in the time to come

[Jake V]

The Jackal????????????????????????????? cmon he turned Peters world upside down whether you liked it or not
Did you read the end of the clone saga? it was all engineered by Noman.

[Artemis1]

When I say GG is my favorite Spiderman foe, I mean up until he just became a parody of himself.

[Nefarius]

The first Green Goblin is the arch-foe of spidey but really i hoped marvel to turn Harry into a more dangerous Goblin.Think about it.Harry wants revenge because he thinks that his father killed by Spider-man who he is also he's best friend and he had a trouble childhood.Also Harry was behind the return of Peter's parents.Ahh,i like Norman but sometimes i think it was better when Harry was alive and Norman was dead.Norman as dead is more effective villain and Harry if he stayed alive he could evolved to one of the greatest enemies of Spidey.

[BizarroBeachHead]

I don't like Norman Osborn anymore. And now I'm gunna tell ya all what I really think because it's a message bord and I can get away with it. Nya! :D

I think Marvel regrets killing Norman Osborn. It has become increasingly obvious that Marvel wishes Green Goblin was Spidey's Lex Luthor. I don't think Norman ever really reached that point right up untill he died. They told the ultimate Goblin story and killed Gwen. Suddenly Norman was a candidate to fill the Lex Luthor role. There was just one problem. Norman died. For a while Spidey was fine without Norman. He had Harry there and there are always plenty of other Spidey villains to step up. For some reason it Harry needed to die too. I guess Marvel started getting figity and decided that Norman needed to come back as the top villain. At the end of the clone saga, suddenly he was alive and behind it all. Norman is the main antagonist and first villain in Ultimate Spider-man AND the Spider-man movie. Suddenly now Norman is everywhere. Unfortunately they chose to bring him back to the regular Spider-man in an incredibly contrived way at an incredibly low point in Spidey's carrer. But now he's back and according to Marvel, Norman is the ultimate arch foe for Spider-man.

The first Green Goblin is the arch-foe of spidey but really i hoped marvel to turn Harry into a more dangerous Goblin.Think about it.Harry wants revenge because he thinks that his father killed by Spider-man who he is also he's best friend and he had a trouble childhood.Also Harry was behind the return of Peter's parents.Ahh,i like Norman but sometimes i think it was better when Harry was alive and Norman was dead.Norman as dead is more effective villain and Harry if he stayed alive he could evolved to one of the greatest enemies of Spidey.This is exactly what makes me so mad about the Green Goblin lineage. Marvel had the perfect set up. Norman became the greatest villain and then died. Harry should have taken over and gone on to become an even greater villain than Norman. Chanelling all of Norman's rage through misguided revenge plots against his best friend. He could have, nay, should have been the grandest villain at the ball.

But I look at it now and it seem so backwards, Harry is dead and Norman is, for some stupid reason, still alive and tormenting Peter. It's like Marvel is forcing us to accept Norman as Peter's greatest foe, but it's not there in the stories.

And as far as I'm concerned, Spider-man died sometime circa Amzing #390. If everything since then was erased, I wouldn't care the slightest bit, and honestly be interested in him again.

But whatever, I'm just a disgruntled fan.

[Alan2099]

So, Bizarro, who do you think currently IS the real archenemy?

[creep]

So what does Spider-Man need an arch enemy for anyway? After all if you look at it he's pretty much his own worst enemy.

Spider-Man's got a huge cast of great villians, but see what happens when you stick locked in an eternal struggle with the same guy endlessly, like they have with Norman, it gets tedious after awhile and they have to keep uping the stakes in increasing upsurd and stupid ways. see - Sin's Past.

[The Wayner]

I voted for Norman.

[king_of_clubs]

I have to go with Green Goblin (Norman) on this one. The others are classics, especially Doc Ock, but if you are talking about the one villain that defines Spider-Man then it's Green Goblin without a doubt.

[BizarroBeachHead]

So, Bizarro, who do you think currently IS the real archenemy?
I don't know, I voted for Norman because like I said before, in the movie and Ultimate books, he's set up as the perfect arch villain tied to Peter's origin. And in the 94 cartoon, eventually Green Goblin did some real damage to Peter by launching Mary Jane through some portal. In other words, despite the fact that I think Marvel dropped the ball in the regular books, it's painfully obvious that Green Goblin is Parker's arch enemy elsewhere.

I like what you said about Doc Ock. He was my favorite, and I think he would have worked nicely as an arch villain.

I also support the idea that he doesn't have an arch villain. He does have a great rogues gallery(the best in my opinion) and Spider-man as a character works perfectly without an arch villain.

[1_2_3[Kasady]]

I voted for carnage cuz...well..you figure it out...

If you notice most of spidey's villains are almost reluctantly evil, they befell some horrible accident, and by circumstance were turned into what they were. Even brock, who made the choice to wear the symbiote (well, he was about to kill himself, so i guess you can say the symbiote was kind of pushed on him) but still venom flip flopped around about a gazillion times and never really reached that deliciously(god i love saying deliciously, what a great f'ing word) evil level that we all know and love cletus for. or atleast i do.

Kasady was evil as a man, and became even more evil when he joined with child to "spread his message of chaos"

He is anti-spiderman in every sense of the matter, there is simply no good in him, and there never will be.

this is why i think kasady is spidey's greatest foe. true, he isnt "classic", so i guess that excludes him almost immedeately, but still, he is just so DELICIOUSLY evil.

[Bloopinator]

I say Green Goblin it seems to me that he made the most impact on Spidey's superhero life. He's also the villian that it seems most in the minds of non-comic readers as Spidey's arch enemy

[Captbigbeard]

At least venom came in 2nd, kinda... if you ignore the fact he's like 50 votes below.

[BizarroBeachHead]

At least venom came in 2nd, kinda... if you ignore the fact he's like 50 votes below.
Captbigbeard, out of genuine curiosity, why do you consider Venom to be Spidery's arch foe?

In my opinion, I think Venom suffered a similar fate to Green Goblin. Marvel tried to set up Spider-man with the perfect anti-spider-man and for a while it seemed to have worked. Then he suffered because I doubt editorial had any definitive plan for him. So he just kind of wandered around aimlessly boucing around from Leathal Protector to wherever he is now(I don't currently read much Spide-man these days). I think, at the time, Marvel didn't have any writers that had a true vision for the character, so he had nothing to do and pattered out into a nothing villain.

And for the record, I liked the Leathal Protector concept, I just think the majority of the stories were crap.

[Captbigbeard]

Captbigbeard, out of genuine curiosity, why do you consider Venom to be Spidery's arch foe?

In my opinion, I think Venom suffered a similar fate to Green Goblin. Marvel tried to set up Spider-man with the perfect anti-spider-man and for a while it seemed to have worked. Then he suffered because I doubt editorial had any definitive plan for him. So he just kind of wandered around aimlessly boucing around from Leathal Protector to wherever he is now(I don't currently read much Spide-man these days). I think, at the time, Marvel didn't have any writers that had a true vision for the character, so he had nothing to do and pattered out into a nothing villain.

And for the record, I liked the Leathal Protector concept, I just think the majority of the stories were crap.

No no no, I don't see him as spidy's archfoe anymore. I personally don't see spidy as havin a an archfoe anymore, just a bunch of cool villians.

[Rich L]

Norman. Seriously, you think anyone can hold a candle to him?

[BizarroBeachHead]

....just a bunch of cool villians.
One of the coolest things about Spidey :)

[Venom]

As much as I love Venom I'm gonna have to say Norman Osborn/Green Goblin is Spider-Man's true arch enemy.

[1_2_3[Kasady]]

Bizarro, the character spiraled so downhill you should count your blessings you stopped reading when you did. Eventually, It ended up leaving brock, who was dying from cancer, so he slit his wrists and was last seen bleeding out in an alley. Epic

However, before he died he auctioned it off to a wealthy crime lord, who bestowed it upon his son to fight crime and "redeem" himself. His son however, being a stupid pissant, engaged with spidey, and after getting his shit kicked in, retreated in all do haste. The Symbiote, who apparently doesnt like cowards, abandoned him in mid leap from a rooftop and he fell to his death.

Then for a few comics the dude who is scorpion (Gargan is his name i think?) Joined the SS as Venom III and was defeated and seperated.

Not sure where the Symbiote is now, and frankly, i dont care.

[TShark82]

Electro cant beleive hes not on the poll.

[acagle7]

Norman Osborn/Green Goblin is Peter's archfoe.

[Sam T.]

I'm going with Norman Osborn/ Green Goblin... no doubt about it!!

[Phoney Bone]

None of the above.

J. Jonah Jameson. How would Peter's life be different if his initial public perception as a hero hadn't been warped by Jameson?

[Chad G.]

It will always and forever be Norman Osborn, the Green Goblin.

Everyone else pales in comparison.

Green Goblin is the premier Spidey villian, but I hardly think that the others "pale" in comparison.

[Hellfan]

']I voted for carnage cuz...well..you figure it out...

If you notice most of spidey's villains are almost reluctantly evil, they befell some horrible accident, and by circumstance were turned into what they were. Even brock, who made the choice to wear the symbiote (well, he was about to kill himself, so i guess you can say the symbiote was kind of pushed on him) but still venom flip flopped around about a gazillion times and never really reached that deliciously(god i love saying deliciously, what a great f'ing word) evil level that we all know and love cletus for. or atleast i do.

Kasady was evil as a man, and became even more evil when he joined with child to "spread his message of chaos"

He is anti-spiderman in every sense of the matter, there is simply no good in him, and there never will be.

this is why i think kasady is spidey's greatest foe. true, he isnt "classic", so i guess that excludes him almost immedeately, but still, he is just so DELICIOUSLY evil.

I would say that Doc Ock is an evil killer. Norman Osborn is an evil man, only reason he was good was due to a memory loss. A sick man drunk with power.

[morbiusdog]

My heart says GG (norman) for obvious reasons but i think there is a more personal connection with Venom so i have voted for him

[Biohazardus_Snark]

Venom,,btw i used to collect "Astonishing spider-man" but i stopped around issue 105.Is Venom still around? Who was Mary Janes stalker if that has been found out.

[Dennis K]

Being over 40, I have to say it's the Green Goblin.

[Alan2099]

Who was Mary Janes stalker if that has been found out.
You're better off not knowing. trust me, it was Baaaaaad.

[The Lucky One]

While I found the Hobgoblin ultimately more interesting, and I think Harry being the Green Goblin haunts Peter more, both of those villains stem directly from Norman's actions- thus, he's the only choice.

-D

[Donald M.]

Spider-Man's unique amonget the three best known superheroes in that he hasn't had one specific arch-foe throughout his career. Several characters have filled that role over time during different eras in the character's development.

Doc Ock was without a doubt Spidey's most prominent foe during the Lee/Ditko era, being the villain of that run's finest story, the Master Planner story of issues #31-32. The Green Goblin/Norman Osbourne took prominence during the Lee/Romita era of the 70's.

Jackal was a major foe in the arch-villain mold for a brief time, then there was Hobgoblin, Venom, Carnage, and last I knew Norman Osbourne was back on top.

[Alan2099]

I don't buy that Green Goblin's back on top. It's too forced.

[AlanScott606]

My pick would be Doc Ock. I personally never liked the Green Goblin much.

[Donald M.]

I don't buy that Green Goblin's back on top. It's too forced.

I agree, but is there another villain in the pages of Spider-Man at the moment who fits the archvillain role better?

Mind you, I haven't read any of the main Spider-Man comics in years, I'm just speaking from what was going on in the books when I gave up on them.

[Alan2099]

I agree, but is there another villain in the pages of Spider-Man at the moment who fits the archvillain role better?

Currently, No, but that's just because every single story thee days seems to be either Spider-Totem or Green Goblin trying to ruin Peter's life.

[samuraisul]

Green Goblin, hands down. The bastard killed Gwen!

[BuccaneerBruce]

It has to be the original Green Goblin, although like many here, he's not my favorite. He has ties to Peter's friends, killed his first true love, knows his secret identity (of course, who doesn't anymore), etc.

He's been used too much over the years though, so he doesn't excite me anymore.

Hey, howcome the Grizzly didn't make the poll?? :p

[Rosie]

I'm not entirely sure if he truly has an arch nemesis.

If you think about it, it'd be split between Green Goblin (personal aspect) and Carnage(biggest bad guy aspect).

Though remember, Carnage may not be actually evil. It's hard to pinpoint true evil on a lot of Spiderman's villians. The Kingpin would come close, but sometimes his "politeness" is very genuine and he does have some motives that aren't entirely black.

It's hard to say, really.

[StoneGold]

Though remember, Carnage may not be actually evil. .
Carnage? The guy they created because Venom was too nice? The pityless psychopath and mass murderer even before he became a symbiote? That Carnage?

[Rosie]

Kassady is completely insane, as was confirmed at the start of Maximum Carnage. He practically has a genetic mutation that makes him that way. If someone is that nuts, it's hard to tell what they're "really like", though there's so little of a human being in him it's more like "What he would have been like".

[Jake V]

Kassady is completely insane, as was confirmed at the start of Maximum Carnage. He practically has a genetic mutation that makes him that way. If someone is that nuts, it's hard to tell what they're "really like", though there's so little of a human being in him it's more like "What he would have been like".
The guy likes to kill people. Whether or not he thinks it's wrong is irrelevant. It makes him evil. And fairly uninteresting.

The last time I enjoyed a Carnage story was when the Sentry ripped him in half.

[megladon8]

The guy likes to kill people. Whether or not he thinks it's wrong is irrelevant. It makes him evil. And fairly uninteresting.

The last time I enjoyed a Carnage story was when the Sentry ripped him in half.


I'm confused...how does the fact that a villain is evil make him uninteresting? I don't think there are too many villains that AREN'T evil...that's what makes them villains.

[Jake V]

I'm confused...how does the fact that a villain is evil make him uninteresting? I don't think there are too many villains that AREN'T evil...that's what makes them villains.
The fact that he's a one-note insane killer makes him uninteresting. There isn't much to his psychology or motivation other than that he likes to kill.

He's to Spider-Man what Onslaught was to the X-Men, or what Bane was to Batman. Uninteresting motivation, inhuman psychology, over the top powers. He was boring and I'm glad he's dead.

[mgs]

Green Goblin hands down, but like others have said, he's not my favourite villian.
*raises hand* another feeling the same way.

[Rosie]

The fact that he's a one-note insane killer makes him uninteresting. There isn't much to his psychology or motivation other than that he likes to kill.

He's to Spider-Man what Onslaught was to the X-Men, or what Bane was to Batman. Uninteresting motivation, inhuman psychology, over the top powers. He was boring and I'm glad he's dead.

Sorry, but I think people that can't appreciate a "simple" villian once in a while are extremely snotty and pretentious. Not only that, you still missed the point of everything I said earlier.

[megladon8]

Sorry, but I think people that can't appreciate a "simple" villian once in a while are extremely snotty and pretentious. Not only that, you still missed the point of everything I said earlier.


Indeed. Elitism is one of the four horsemen of the apocalypse, I swear.

[darkhawk76]

Doc Ock all the way for me

maybe if Green Boblin had turned into a joke (imo) I might like him more.

the original schizo Norman Osborn is miles better than the evil psycho who we've got now

plus he should have stayed dead