Cloven Wolverine?

[Special K]

Hello! This will be my first post, and perhaps it will be a dangerous one, but I'm curious. I apologize in advance if this has already been addressed--be it here or in an actual comic.

If Wolverine were to be cut in half, straight down the middle, head to groin, and his halves were NOT touching each other, would he heal up? Would each half grow the missing half--(two Wolvies?!)? Would he continue to exist in halves, like Calvino's Cloven Viscount? Would his two halves live momentarily enough (like a chicken running around after its head gets cut off) to get together to fuse? In this case, I guess it's questionable whether the brain would function on a level that would have him bring himself together... Or would he simply just die? Have I found out how to kill Wolverine??

Thank you.

[Doom Hammer]

He can't be cut in half on account of his indestructible metal skeleton.

[xakko]

Hello! This will be my first post, and perhaps it will be a dangerous one, but I'm curious. I apologize in advance if this has already been addressed--be it here or in an actual comic.

If Wolverine were to be cut in half, straight down the middle, head to groin, and his halves were NOT touching each other, would he heal up? Would each half grow the missing half--(two Wolvies?!)? Would he continue to exist in halves, like Calvino's Cloven Viscount? Would his two halves live momentarily enough (like a chicken running around after its head gets cut off) to get together to fuse? In this case, I guess it's questionable whether the brain would function on a level that would have him bring himself together... Or would he simply just die? Have I found out how to kill Wolverine??

Thank you.
Theoretically, yes. Realistically, no. In one of the X-men annuals, a single (magically enhanced) drop of blood was sufficient to regenerate a brand new Wolverine. But with his adamantium skeleton (which would be a royal pain to divide in half) taking up part of his healing factor, being divided in half would kill Logan.

Depending, of course, on who is writing him at the time. ')

[The Fury]

He can't be cut in half on account of his indestructible metal skeleton.
Be politically correct why don't you.


I think he's be dead, I'm sorry he's not that great as as far was we can tell he bones don't grow back.

[Special K]

aaaaaaah.... his skeleton... totally forgot about that glitch. Thank you for that. Could superman zap him in half? Heat vision stronger than adamantium, or at least able to melt it...

You guys are very nice for enlightening me to all this. Ta!

[Doom Hammer]

Be politically correct why don't you.

I didn't realize I was being PC... :confused: Should I have referred to him as "decapitationally challenged?"

I think he's be dead, I'm sorry he's not that great as as far was we can tell he bones don't grow back.

And see, I could swear that I've seen 90's issues where his bone claws break off and grow back later...

[Beast]

Well, Dark Phoenix Beast in Grant Morrison's 'Here Comes Tommorow' cut Wolverine in half with a telekinetic blade. Note that you can get around the adamantium by attacking the joints between each bone which can't be coated, or he wouldn't be able to move. Of course in that specific case, DPB also turned off his healing factor first. But no, Wolverine would likely die before he could regenerate a whole new lower body. Wolverine has been canonly able to be killed, by losing a massive ammount of vital organs or blood before he can regenerate them. And his lower body wouldn't live long enough to regenerate much of anything, due to not having any organs that actually keep the body functioning, heart, lungs, brain, etc. :)

[The Fury]

I didn't realize I was being PC... :confused: Should I have referred to him as "decapitationally challenged?"
No, not that, the question was asked and you bought up the fact his skeleton can't be cut. OK, so it's not PC, but still.

And see, I could swear that I've seen 90's issues where his bone claws break off and grow back later...
There a reason for that, like any human a bone within the body can grow back His bone claws were withing his body while they healed. Now, rip off Wolverine's leg, and like any human his wounds should heal arround the broken bone and wiould not grow a new leg, the speed of his skin healing would be too fast for the bone to grow back even if his bone could grow back.

[xakko]

There are beings of cosmic power that can affect adamantium, and thus would be able to carry out the operation in question.

From the Xavier Protocols, it would appear that Xavier would be afraid of an adamantium-less Wolverine so long as the head were still attached to the body, so maybe half of one might be able to make it (tho' I personally doubt it). With adamantium, however, I don't see him recovering, even if the blood loss were stemmed.

[Doom Hammer]

No, not that, the question was asked and you bought up the fact his skeleton can't be cut. OK, so it's not PC, but still.

Okay. Um, sorry? I really don't know what to say. I thought it was kind of an important point to the question...seeing as how it (currently) can't be done.

There a reason for that, like any human a bone within the body can grow back His bone claws were withing his body while they healed. Now, rip off Wolverine's leg, and like any human his wounds should heal arround the broken bone and wiould not grow a new leg, the speed of his skin healing would be too fast for the bone to grow back even if his bone could grow back.

Okay, makes sense.

[The Fury]

Okay. Um, sorry? I really don't know what to say. I thought it was kind of an important point to the question...seeing as how it (currently) can't be done..
Well, you had a good point. It would have just been the case of ignoring that fact and trying to answer the question.

But never mind, your point is still valid.

[Beast]

And, I am clearly tired.... because you asked straight down the middle from groin to gullet. My bad. Just waking up, and my brain went ...... fwee. :)

[Mideon]

I'm sure that cutting Wolverine's brain, torso, and wang in half would kill him.

[Crimson]

Be politically correct why don't you.


I think he's be dead, I'm sorry he's not that great as as far was we can tell he bones don't grow back.

Didn't he once come back from a drop of his blood?

[Arrjay]

Didn't he once come back from a drop of his blood?

You're phucking kidding me right? It's that kinda writing (like having Wolvie tossed into the sun and surviving) that makes comic book haters think that comics are solely for children. That's just dodgy.

[Crimson]

You're phucking kidding me right? It's that kinda writing (like having Wolvie tossed into the sun and surviving) that makes comic book haters think that comics are solely for children. That's just dodgy.

I'm sure I've heard someone talking on here about an issue were it happened.

I haven't read it and think its crazy... but whoever it was was talking about it like it was cannon.

I wish my memory was better so I could remember more details.

[xakko]

I'm sure I've heard someone talking on here about an issue were it happened.

I haven't read it and think its crazy... but whoever it was was talking about it like it was cannon.

I wish my memory was better so I could remember more details.
It was an annual- #11 or #12- and the drop of blood hit this crystal that granted unlimited power. It was a gimmick, not a regular power stunt.

[Crimson]

It was an annual- #11 or #12- and the drop of blood hit this crystal that granted unlimited power. It was a gimmick, not a regular power stunt.

Oh ok! Thanks for clearing that up.

[Uncle Nobs]

It wasn't his healing factor that brought him back from a drop of his own blood. It was this all-powerful cosmic crystal thingy. A drop touched the crystal and it used the raw data in his DNA to rebuild him.

And for the record, it was in Uncanny X-Men Annual #11. If you haven't read it, go buy it RIGHT NOW. One of my favorite stories. (It's pretty cheap, too!)

As far as the original question goes, I think you've stumbled onto something here.

There's no reason to think his bones can't regenerate. After all, his brain cells do. Reptiles and some other animals are able to regrow bones, but no animal on earth can regrow brain cells (as I understand it).

You can get cleave the adamantium with a strong enough energy beam or with magic.

I agree that his healing factor is not at full strength when he has the adamantium in his system. It's a foreign substance that his body is continually trying to expel, but is unable to.

If you cut him in half... and the two halves can't touch... and his healing factor isn't compromised by the adamantium...

I'd have to say yes. I think he'd actually develop into two separate Logans. It would be GRUESOME and a FRICKING LONG process, but I don't see any other alternative.

You have made me think today, Special K. I hate when people do that.

[DDM]

You're phucking kidding me right? It's that kinda writing (like having Wolvie tossed into the sun and surviving) that makes comic book haters think that comics are solely for children. That's just dodgy.

An all powerful crystal--that has absolute power--brought Wolverine back to life when a drop of blood landed on the crystal. It's a suspensful story considering Horde was immune to the X-Men's powers. Horde was powered by the same crystal. Wolverine destroyed the crystal then the X-Men woke up as if all was dream. Read the story in Uncanny X-Men Annual #11 by Chris Claremont & Alan Davis:

http://image.milehighcomics.com/istore/images/fullsize/97904389460.11.GIF

All who used the crystal for personal gain would turn into statues. Worse, their races were genetically frozen in place. The book also guest stars Brian Braddock (Captain Britain) & Meggan.

[Beast]

You're phucking kidding me right? It's that kinda writing (like having Wolvie tossed into the sun and surviving) that makes comic book haters think that comics are solely for children. That's just dodgy.
There was a mini-retcon to the Wolverine into the sun issue that makes it less craptacular. He's stated since then that Jean/Phoenix brought him back to life. So he didn't really regenerate from getting tossed into the sun. :)

[The Pizza Man]

Would imagine any energy powerful enough to cleave the adamantium would sear the cuts enough to stop cell growth. No?

[ibrakeforchinwe]

Didn't he once come back from a drop of his blood?

Yes, but with the help of a mystic crystal.

Wolverine had the adamantium ripped from him before and at that time he could have been cut in half. I think he would die before the healing process could begin......

[Michael P]

He can't be cut in half on account of his indestructible metal skeleton.
Wrong. While it would take a great degree of power and skill, a precise strike between any two vertebra would sever the cartilage linking them and, if there were no other bones in the way (i.e., a strike to the lower abdomen), Wolverine would indeed be cut in half.

And don't try to tell me the adamantium covers the cartilage as well. If that were true, he wouldn't be able to bend over.

And, in such an event, Wolverine would either die of massive blood loss, or the healing factor would heal the hole in his lower torso, and he'd be a gimp for the rest of his days.

[Uncle Nobs]

Would imagine any energy powerful enough to cleave the adamantium would sear the cuts enough to stop cell growth. No?
Nah. He heals from getting cooked just as well as he does from getting cut. In fact, the burn would actually HELP him, as it would keep him from bleeding out.

(Although, bleeding out isn't much of a risk. On some occasions, he's been cut/punctured/slashed/impaled enough to equal the same risk of blood loss as getting cut in half. His healing factor was always able to stop the bleeding. But of course, this depends on who is writing.)

[Will.S]

An all powerful crystal--that has absolute power--brought Wolverine back to life when a drop of blood landed on the crystal. It's a suspensful story considering Horde was immune to the X-Men's powers. Horde was powered by the same crystal. Wolverine destroyed the crystal then the X-Men woke up as if all was dream. Read the story in Uncanny X-Men Annual #11 by Chris Claremont & Alan Davis:

http://image.milehighcomics.com/istore/images/fullsize/97904389460.11.GIF

All who used the crystal for personal gain would turn into statues. Worse, their races were genetically frozen in place. The book also guest stars Brian Braddock (Captain Britain) & Meggan.
Amazingly I have that issue. It's pretty darn good annual.

The scene in the beginning where Wolvere was "drunk" was entertaining, he went through the same routine in Secret War. While he wasn't the main focus of the Annual, I loved the way Chris Claremont made an example of Logan's own mortality and kept the noble samurai warrior aspect so intact, especially at the end of the book. Alan Davis's art was terrific in it as well.

[TinMan]

Hello! This will be my first post, and perhaps it will be a dangerous one, but I'm curious. I apologize in advance if this has already been addressed--be it here or in an actual comic.

If Wolverine were to be cut in half, straight down the middle, head to groin, and his halves were NOT touching each other, would he heal up? Would each half grow the missing half--(two Wolvies?!)? Would he continue to exist in halves, like Calvino's Cloven Viscount? Would his two halves live momentarily enough (like a chicken running around after its head gets cut off) to get together to fuse? In this case, I guess it's questionable whether the brain would function on a level that would have him bring himself together... Or would he simply just die? Have I found out how to kill Wolverine??

Thank you.


Ok, I have to disagree with a lot of people in this thread, and heres why:

1) Theres a reason they say Wolverine has a "healing factor" and not "regeneration" as Wade Wilson, aka Deadpool, does. A "healing factor only heals damage as in cuts, holes, burns, etc, whereas "regeneration" will create a new limb or organ if one is severed or completely destroyed. Wolverine being able to regenerate a limb is just extremely bad writing and a misunderstanding of how his individual powers actually work, I have read stories where this has happened so theres no point in trying to contradict me, its just bad writing and editing. I know I've read this type of explanation in a couple different comics and character write-ups, so this is the most accurate explanation of his powers.

So theoretically if Logan were to get severed in half like that he WOULD die unless the two pieces were shoved back together quick enough that his healing factor could knit them back together, the two individual pieces would not regenerate two new halves of his body because he does not have "regeneration".

2) The idea that Logan's healing factor is weakened because of the adamantium in his system is actually a very stupid idea. This was introduced during "The Twelve" storyline after Wolvie was released from 'Pocy's mind control, stating that the "lead" in the adamantium was giving him lead poisoning that his body couldn't fight off due to his healing factor being shut off. But contradictory to this, many years previously in the X-Tinction Agenda, the Genoshans used the mutant Wipeout (can't remember if thats his name off hand for sure) to shut other mutants powers off. In this scenerio though, even without his healing factor Logan didn't suffer from lead poisoning. Now, you can argue it by saying, "well, its not the same adamantium that he had back then because Apocolypse had to rebond it to him before his powers were ever shut off". This is a true enough point, BUT, they still call it "Adamantium", if the alloy had different types of metals in it then it would not be adamantium, it would be another alloy of some kind. So technically the idea of lead poisoning could be possible but you would have to drop the idea that the metal is adamantium, and somehow retcon the whole "weakened healing factor" concept just to make everything jive.

Also consider this: Adamantium is an alloy just as Titanium is. Titanium is practically the only metal in the world that does not contain Iron or lead, and this is what makes it the optimal type of metal to be implanted into the human body (because it won't cause poisoning and the body actually accepts it into itself). Titanium is also the strongest light weight metal in the world, but theoretically Adamantium is much stronger. So based upon these ideas, Adamantium would most likely NOT have any iron or lead in it because its an alloy that was created for a huge strength to weight ratio, which means it would be impossible to contract lead poisoning if his healing powers were shut off because there's no iron or lead in the alloy.

The whole "Healing factor was weakened because of the adamantium" is a stupid concept that has no real logical base that was come up with in an attempt to make the character even more interesting and throw a new twist at readers. I give the concept two thumbs down! :p

[The Fury]

Also consider this: Adamantium is an alloy just as Titanium is. Titanium is practically the only metal in the world that does not contain Iron or lead, and this is what makes it the optimal type of metal to be implanted into the human body (because it won't cause poisoning and the body actually accepts it into itself). Titanium is also the strongest light weight metal in the world, but theoretically Adamantium is much stronger. So based upon these ideas, Adamantium would most likely NOT have any iron or lead in it because its an alloy that was created for a huge strength to weight ratio, which means it would be impossible to contract lead poisoning if his healing powers were shut off because there's no iron or lead in the alloy.

The whole "Healing factor was weakened because of the adamantium" is a stupid concept that has no real logical base that was come up with in an attempt to make the character even more interesting and throw a new twist at readers. I give the concept two thumbs down! :p

First, you are right, he would die, the stupid little munchkin.

But the Adamantium poisining thing isn't true. His weaking was becuase of what the Adamantium skelton was blocking off. For normal humans to survive they ned fresh blood cells. Blood cells, both red and white, are produced within the bones, This process is halted for Wolverine and fresh blood does not get into his system. He has survived this long becuase his blood is able to in effect heal itself to sustain him. In his current state, a truely heavy loss of blood should kill him, not having blood to carry oxygen or th plasma to heal wounds would lead to his death. This is why he was extremely dangerous when he didn't have the adamantium skeleton, his body was preducing new fresh blood to keep him alive.

[TinMan]

First, you are right, he would die, the stupid little munchkin.

But the Adamantium poisining thing isn't true. His weaking was becuase of what the Adamantium skelton was blocking off. For normal humans to survive they ned fresh blood cells. Blood cells, both red and white, are produced within the bones, This process is halted for Wolverine and fresh blood does not get into his system. He has survived this long becuase his blood is able to in effect heal itself to sustain him. In his current state, a truely heavy loss of blood should kill him, not having blood to carry oxygen or th plasma to heal wounds would lead to his death. This is why he was extremely dangerous when he didn't have the adamantium skeleton, his body was preducing new fresh blood to keep him alive.

Very good point, I hadn't thought of that. Guess they should have used that explanation in "The Twelve" rather than lead poisoning! :p But then again he should be dead by now anyway, I mean how many times has he lost tons of blood. So I would almost have to say that theres something else that keeps him from running out of blood, and if thats the case there really shouldn't be a huge difference in the way his healing happens.

[SlightlyMad]

So he wouldn't become Wolverine Red & Wolverine Blue then? ;) :D

[The Fury]

But then again he should be dead by now anyway, I mean how many times has he lost tons of blood. So I would almost have to say that theres something else that keeps him from running out of blood, and if thats the case there really shouldn't be a huge difference in the way his healing happens.
Loads, but how bad would it be one day if Wolverine just fell over dead?

Wait, it would be hilarious.

But for Marvel, killing their most profitable character is not a good idea. Obviously he does die becuase he's just doens't.

[jadegiant77]

He'd die, I'm sure.

BTW, Logan only has a healing factor, right? Or he used to. Nowadays, it seems like he can regenerate whole organs! I n that lame-o Planet X, he was able to regrow his eyeballs! :eek:

[DDM]

He'd die, I'm sure.

BTW, Logan only has a healing factor, right? Or he used to. Nowadays, it seems like he can regenerate whole organs! I n that lame-o Planet X, he was able to regrow his eyeballs! :eek:

Phoenix supercharged Wolverine's healing factor in "Planet X." Rachel Summers, as Phoenix, had supercharged Logan's healing factor twice. This is the third time Phoenix supercharged Logan's healing factor.


The first time was in San Francisco when the X-Men battled the Omega Sentinels thanks to the Beyonder. The second time was sometime after Uncanny X-Men #205 & before Uncanny X-Men #207; however, something went wrong. Instead of supercharging Wolverine's healing factor, Rachel unintentionally created a psionic rapport between herself & Logan. Rachel's nightmares manifested with Logan killing her. In a twisted manner, she created her own self-fulfilling prophecy when she tried to murder Selene & Wolverine was took weak to stop her short of stabbing Phoenix through the heart & lungs...

[Doom Hammer]

Wrong. While it would take a great degree of power and skill, a precise strike between any two vertebra would sever the cartilage linking them and, if there were no other bones in the way (i.e., a strike to the lower abdomen), Wolverine would indeed be cut in half.

And don't try to tell me the adamantium covers the cartilage as well. If that were true, he wouldn't be able to bend over.

Before you jump down my throat, bud, read the question. Can he be cut in half up and down?

In which case, no, he can't. You can cut him sideways, slicing cartilage, or cutting joints, but you can't cut him longways. Why? Because of his indestructible metal skeleton.

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Oops..I guess i found a way...

[Will.S]

Ok, I have to disagree with a lot of people in this thread, and heres why:

1) Theres a reason they say Wolverine has a "healing factor" and not "regeneration" as Wade Wilson, aka Deadpool, does. A "healing factor only heals damage as in cuts, holes, burns, etc, whereas "regeneration" will create a new limb or organ if one is severed or completely destroyed. Wolverine being able to regenerate a limb is just extremely bad writing and a misunderstanding of how his individual powers actually work, I have read stories where this has happened so theres no point in trying to contradict me, its just bad writing and editing. I know I've read this type of explanation in a couple different comics and character write-ups, so this is the most accurate explanation of his powers.

I have to slightly disagree with some of that.

Since Deadpool got the better end of Logan's healing factor due to Weapon X (on which it is based on) it gave him the ability to re-generate limbs. Wolverine's healing factor seems to me more like high level healing or low to middle level regeneration because his organs when punctured or severely damaged, given enough time, mend themselves back together.

Examples:

- He's been repeatedly stabbed, slashed, and impaled from just about every sharp object on countless occasions. The Gorgon and his sword antics are a good recent example. Wendigo and Sabertooth have also swiped away at his guts many times after which they eventually "stitched" themselves back together.

- His eye grew back after being eaten by Mauvais

There's also the fact that his skin grows back constantly from massive burns and trauma such as:

- Surviving a huge explosion in Blood Debt

- Punisher blasting Logan's face clean off with a shotgun

- Cassandra Nova practically skinning his arm in Emperial while growing back within a few panels

Of course the Adamantium along with the healing is a key contributor as far as keeping him intact goes but regeneration of severely damaged organs isn't outside the realm of Wolverine's healing factor.

[TinMan]

I have to slightly disagree with some of that.

Since Deadpool got the better end of Logan's healing factor due to Weapon X (on which it is based on) it gave him the ability to re-generate limbs. Wolverine's healing factor seems to me more like high level healing or low to middle level regeneration because his organs when punctured or severely damaged, given enough time, mend themselves back together.

Examples:

- He's been repeatedly stabbed, slashed, and impaled from just about every sharp object on countless occasions. The Gorgon and his sword antics are a good recent example. Wendigo and Sabertooth have also swiped away at his guts many times after which they eventually "stitched" themselves back together.

- His eye grew back after being eaten by Mauvais

There's also the fact that his skin grows back constantly from massive burns and trauma such as:

- Surviving a huge explosion in Blood Debt

- Punisher blasting Logan's face clean off with a shotgun

- Cassandra Nova practically skinning his arm in Emperial while growing back within a few panels

Of course the Adamantium along with the healing is a key contributor as far as keeping him intact goes but regeneration of severely damaged organs isn't outside the realm of Wolverine's healing factor.

You're not really saying anything different than what I did, honestly. His eyeball growing back after being eaten is an example of bad writing, cause he can't regenerate, but if only half of the eye was left that would make sense, since some of the actual eyes cells still remained to heal. I haven't read the imperial arc so I haven't seen the depiction of how his arm was torn up, but by your description that sounds like it could be bad writing too. A good example to the contrary is the AoA Logan, he lost his left hand and it never grew back, because he can't regrow something if its completely gone, only if there are some cells left to "recreate" the whole.

[Will.S]

You're not really saying anything different than what I did, honestly.Which is why I'm only slightly disagreeing with you ;)

His eyeball growing back after being eaten is an example of bad writing, cause he can't regenerate, but if only half of the eye was left that would make sense, since some of the actual eyes cells still remained to heal. I haven't read the imperial arc so I haven't seen the depiction of how his arm was torn up, but by your description that sounds like it could be bad writing too. A good example to the contrary is the AoA Logan, he lost his left hand and it never grew back, because he can't regrow something if its completely gone, only if there are some cells left to "recreate" the whole.
His eye is still tissue that can repair itself given enough time and it isn't really considered a vital organ but the way Marvel writes Logan's healing factor goes with the low to middle level regeneration I've been talking about. You're right about the regeneration of limbs, aside from the bone claws I don't think he has enough power or genetic information to regenerate bone adamantium or not (without the help of an outside source like the Phoenix or the crystal Horde tried to attain) but he can most certainly regenerate tissue to an impressive degree.

[Uncle Nobs]

Gotta disagree with you, TinMan.

"Regeneration" is healing. There are just different degrees of it. I haven't kept up with Deadpool, so I'll take your word for it when you say his healing factor is stronger. I'll just discuss what I know about Wolverine.

Back in the day, the full extent of his abilities was unknown. Even in the MU Handbook, it said that it was unknown whether Logan could regrow entire limbs and that at that point, the most severe injury we'd seen in the comics was a sword through the gut.

Eventually, we saw more and more. And he's still alive.

By now, we've seen him lose eyeballs; get his throat slashed; stabbed through the heart; burned nearly to a crisp; hurled to the ground at a speed described as faster than some meteor strikes; jam his own claws into his brain; flayed apart by massive amounts of adamantium being ripped from his bones; lose every muscle, tendon, and ligament on his arm; and plenty more that I couldn't possibly remember.

We went from "yet to be established" regenerative abilities to "firmly established". It turns out his healing factor was stronger than any of us thought (even him).

Since he can regrow eyeballs, brain cells, tendons, & ligaments without so much as an ounce of scar tissue... Since he has fallen from heights at a velocity that literally LIQUIFIES internal organs... Then there's no reason to think there's anything his body can't regenerate.

You can call it bad writing, but it's canon. As much as we sometimes wish that certain things were never printed, we can't say they're not canon.

The trick is just staying alive long enough to heal from massive injuries like this. That's where I expect writers to work for their money. We know he can heal. Show us how he stays alive long enough to get the chance.

So regarding the original question, I think the trauma would be so massive that a writer would have to provide credible reasoning for how he doesn't die right away. But if they can do that... If they split him using an energy beam that cauterizes the wound... If his healing factor is uncompromised by adamantium... If somehow each half was under the right conditions... If we accept the last 15 years of comics as canon...

It's possible.

[PrimalScream]

Be politically correct why don't you.


I think he's be dead, I'm sorry he's not that great as as far was we can tell he bones don't grow back.

his bones do grow back-remember cyber snapped off his bone claws and they grew back eventually

[The Fury]

his bones do grow back-remember cyber snapped off his bone claws and they grew back eventually
I've already explained why that happens. See a post a little bit after the post you quoted. Post #8.

[TinMan]

Gotta disagree with you, TinMan.

"Regeneration" is healing. There are just different degrees of it. I haven't kept up with Deadpool, so I'll take your word for it when you say his healing factor is stronger. I'll just discuss what I know about Wolverine.

Back in the day, the full extent of his abilities was unknown. Even in the MU Handbook, it said that it was unknown whether Logan could regrow entire limbs and that at that point, the most severe injury we'd seen in the comics was a sword through the gut.

Eventually, we saw more and more. And he's still alive.

By now, we've seen him lose eyeballs; get his throat slashed; stabbed through the heart; burned nearly to a crisp; hurled to the ground at a speed described as faster than some meteor strikes; jam his own claws into his brain; flayed apart by massive amounts of adamantium being ripped from his bones; lose every muscle, tendon, and ligament on his arm; and plenty more that I couldn't possibly remember.

We went from "yet to be established" regenerative abilities to "firmly established". It turns out his healing factor was stronger than any of us thought (even him).

Since he can regrow eyeballs, brain cells, tendons, & ligaments without so much as an ounce of scar tissue... Since he has fallen from heights at a velocity that literally LIQUIFIES internal organs... Then there's no reason to think there's anything his body can't regenerate.

You can call it bad writing, but it's canon. As much as we sometimes wish that certain things were never printed, we can't say they're not canon.

The trick is just staying alive long enough to heal from massive injuries like this. That's where I expect writers to work for their money. We know he can heal. Show us how he stays alive long enough to get the chance.

So regarding the original question, I think the trauma would be so massive that a writer would have to provide credible reasoning for how he doesn't die right away. But if they can do that... If they split him using an energy beam that cauterizes the wound... If his healing factor is uncompromised by adamantium... If somehow each half was under the right conditions... If we accept the last 15 years of comics as canon...

It's possible.


6 entries found for regeneration.
re·gen·er·a·tion ( P ) Pronunciation Key (r-jn-rshn)
n.
1.The act or process of regenerating or the state of being regenerated.
2.Spiritual or moral revival or rebirth.
3.Biology. Regrowth of lost or destroyed parts or organs.

Found on dictionary.com

See, I wish I could find the quote I was talking about in one of my previous posts. I know I read a statement in a comic that said Wolverine can't regenerate a body part if its completely severed or destroyed, he can only heal damaged tissue. Which is why I say Deadpool's abilities are stronger, because he can have an arm cut off and it will grow back, whereas if that happened to Wolvie he would end up with a stump like in AoA. This is why I consider it inconsistant writing, now honestly I wouldn't mind if they updated his ability to be strong enough to regenerate and clearly stated it as such, but I'm just going by a previously established description that was posed in cannon.

[xandertheill]

i think the problem is that we are focusing on the buzz word "healing factor" instead of what he has been shown to do which is now canon. just think of the things he's regrown like feats or regeneration...


explained as "healing factor" parts shouldn't come back if destroyed completely.

explained as "feats" he's done it before he'll do it again & it will keep him the x-villains doormat for the first couple issues of any story arc until he can no longer regenerate & goes back to having a healing factor.

[DrMagnetoDoom]

someone mentioned that he couldn't be getting new blood cells because the adamantium blocks his bone marrow, yet there are other organs in the body that create blood cells. The entire lymphatic system does that. So his spleen is probably working overtime. If he still has his tonsills and appendix then they're growing some to (thery're not useless organs, they provide you with white blood cells when you are a newborn before you're bones have fully matured)

so given that and the fact that his body probably works faster then most, he probable has a steady supply of new blood cells, without adamantium he's just that much stronger

as for whether or not he could survive being torn in two lengthwise, no, his brain would sever in half, only one half would have a heart in it that could supply blood (cause as you know the organs of the body are not all lined up down the center) plus his dick would be cut in half, and no man wants to live with no dick

[Folderpirate]

If anyone remembers Onslaught Saga, then you would also remember The Xavier Protocols.

These were specific directions on how to maintain/destroy each and every X-Man if, and when, they would become a threat to the good of the world.

While viewing some of them, a few members of the X-Team, including Cyke and Angel, come across an entry for Wolverine.

It says that the only way to kill him would be to remove his head from his body in some fashion and to make sure that the two parts couldn't touch.

So in theory, your idea would effectively kill Wolverine due to the severing of the brain from the rest of his body.

However, I am also lend to think that the 2 halves would stay alive for a few moments while trying to connect to each other again, and that if they would connect, he would heal a good amount.

[igarath]

interesting question.

since he got Healing Factor I don't think he can revive from the dead. so basically the wounds would close fast, and maybe even grow skin and all, but he would be dead. so as beheading and such...

at least that's how I see it.