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lboinyamouf4sho
10-01-2005, 06:58 AM
10/01/05 THE DEBUT
tonights the night an alternative to wwe returns to american wrestling fans, of course we will all still watch wwe, but it sure will be nice to be able to watch something else once a week, w/o having to order dvds/tapes, god knows i've spent more money than ever before on indy and foreign wrestling over the past year.
anyways, can't wait to see things kick off with roderick strong vs aj, plus for the 1st time see a heel AMW, and hopefully some surprises. so see you all when the show is over.
SUPERECWFAN1
10-01-2005, 07:07 AM
10/01/05 THE DEBUT
tonights the night an alternative to wwe returns to american wrestling fans, of course we will all still watch wwe, but it sure will be nice to be able to watch something else once a week, w/o having to order dvds/tapes, god knows i've spent more money than ever before on indy and foreign wrestling over the past year.
anyways, can't wait to see things kick off with roderick strong vs aj, plus for the 1st time see a heel AMW, and hopefully some surprises. so see you all when the show is over.
If Gaz wants he can do the Review he can. I'll understand. ;)
lboinyamouf4sho
10-01-2005, 07:18 AM
If Gaz wants he can do the Review he can. I'll understand. ;)
i thought gaz was a girl for some reason, i have to be at work at 11pm :( so i'm gonna tape it an watch sunday morning after football.
adamthered
10-01-2005, 08:09 AM
Got my DVR all ready so I can watch it later. Unfortunately it's on too late for me to stay up since I wake up at 5:45 to be at work by 7 :evilangry
However, I'm very interested in supporting TNA. Hopefully it does well.
lboinyamouf4sho
10-01-2005, 08:38 AM
i hear roderick and aj had a great match in roh this year, so i expect this one to be god aswell
SUPERECWFAN1
10-01-2005, 01:02 PM
i thought gaz was a girl for some reason, i have to be at work at 11pm :( so i'm gonna tape it an watch sunday morning after football.
I always pictured him as a guy for some reason. Hopefully he'll set the record straight and give us a Review. ;)
I always pictured him as a guy for some reason. Hopefully he'll set the record straight and give us a Review. ;)
I'll try, but the main way I was able to before was because of the webcasts.
(And you were right, I'm a guy)
SUPERECWFAN1
10-01-2005, 05:46 PM
I'll try, but the main way I was able to before was because of the webcasts.
(And you were right, I'm a guy)
If you want...I can do it for now. But I'd like to leave it up to you because you done a kick ass job on the TNA Webcasts. Any way that helps ya.
If you want...I can do it for now. But I'd like to leave it up to you because you done a kick ass job on the TNA Webcasts. Any way that helps ya.
See, it's only aired on a premium cable station over here, which my provider doesn't carry, (and even then it's a month behind). The webcasts let me stay up to date.
I should be able to get it via more questionable means, though.
vertigo_phreeze
10-01-2005, 06:34 PM
i am really tempted to go turn it on at work and not wait to watch it off the PVR tomorrow...i am so excited.
SUPERECWFAN1
10-01-2005, 07:36 PM
See, it's only aired on a premium cable station over here, which my provider doesn't carry, (and even then it's a month behind). The webcasts let me stay up to date.
I should be able to get it via more questionable means, though.
LoL If its anything you feel thats too much I understand. But good luck findin a way to do it.
clayholio
10-01-2005, 08:45 PM
I'm pretty excited about the debut episode. That's all I really have to say, but I think it needs saying.
lboinyamouf4sho
10-02-2005, 01:47 AM
I'll try, but the main way I was able to before was because of the webcasts.
(And you were right, I'm a guy)
sorry dude, no offense meant. you had a pic of a woman as your av awhile back that i thought was you, i thought you were pretty hot too :o now i feel so dirty.
anyways, pretty good debut show. i wish AJ vs strong had more time and back and forth action but it seems the intention was to showcase AJ and with limited time they did what they needed to do. roderick is under contract now so he'll get his time to shine soon enough.
montys squash seemed to serve the same purpose as AJs match and for his finish tonight he gets 3 out of 5 cheetah skins on my pounce-o-meter.
3 way x-match was the best of the night, sabin, williams, and shelly deliver as usual. looking forward to a strong run in the x-division from shelly in the future, since sabin and petey have both had their runs already. damn the x-division is stacked, they gotta get AJ, daniels, and maybe joe out of there soon and into the very lacking HW division. let shelly, sabin, petey, bently, primetime, and shocker take it and bring up guys like david young, jerrelle clark, roderick strong, and austin aries and make them players in the division too.
jarrett usually makes me change the channel, but with heel amw at his side i'm interested enough to stay tuned. i like harris new miami vice look. devon looks to be in the best shape i've ever seen him in, and team 3D brother ray and brother devon got a huge reaction, and their shirts are great. as much as i don't like jarrett i hope he doesn't drop the title to nash, did you see nash leg buckle when he jack-knifed jarrett, he probly blew his quad again.
looking forward to next saturday.
lboinyamouf4sho
10-02-2005, 01:47 AM
i am really tempted to go turn it on at work and not wait to watch it off the PVR tomorrow...i am so excited.
that's what i did. what kind of work do you do anyways??
Bright-Raven
10-02-2005, 03:47 AM
Well, this was my first exposure to the TNA Brand.
Color me unimpressed.
Larry Zybysko as the Company Manager is a joke. Mike Tenay as play by play - pfft. I have no idea who his booth partner was, but he sucked. Shane Douglas as the interviewer? You're joking, right?
The 6 sided ring didn't mean much to me. I am presuming that none of the matches really utilized them in any special fashion.
AJ Styles - well, the match was okay, I guess. Certainly didn't showcase the guy nearly well enough for the hype he gets.
Monty Brown - Sucks. His finisher is a frickin' running tackle shrug?!
The 3 way X-Match thing was all right. The Canadian Destroyer move by Williams on Sabin looked interesting. But overall nothing that special.
Jeff Hardy V. Rhyno - *Yawn* ooooo. Sabuuuuuuu! Gee, why don't we just have an "old geezers" match? First person to escape the nursing home wins! And who was this "monster" guy?
Jeff Jarrett / AMW V. 3LK V. Team 3D & Kevin Nash: Jarrett nobody really gives a damn about. AMW didn't really get shown. Konnan has always sucked. Road Dogg has always sucked. Ron Killings wasn't that good in WWE, so I'm hoping he'll show decent in future episodes if I bother watching. Team 3D - are so long past their prime I couldn't care less. They've been boring as hell for the past 3 years. Nash is a joke.
Oh, and let's not forget the little Raven appearance. You mean to tell me that after Jarrett "stole" the NWA title, that Raven doesn't make an appearance to attack him at all? What kind of craptacular writing is this?
This is what TNA has to offer? Are you guys kidding me? A bunch of former WWE guys who don't even rate a blip on my radar, a bunch of WCW has beens and never weres, and a few newcomers who really didn't get to showcase anything?
I realize this is the first episode, but damn, man, BRAND the show! Make it TNA, not just the old timers show!
*shakes head* Do I really bother watching this next week?
lboinyamouf4sho
10-02-2005, 05:03 AM
the webcasts were better, but they have to introduce these guys to a new audience. give it a few weeks to allow a build. they have the talent, it's not easy to book a debut show as it is, plus they only have 1 hour.
SUPERECWFAN1
10-02-2005, 09:20 AM
the webcasts were better, but they have to introduce these guys to a new audience. give it a few weeks to allow a build. they have the talent, it's not easy to book a debut show as it is, plus they only have 1 hour.
Teney says that if the show does well, 2 hours could happen and its clear that TNA needs it. They have a roster of great talents BR that you sadly couldn't all see. If TNA had a 2 hour show all the guys they have would have been on TV.
Matches
X-Division Champion "The Phenomenal" AJ Styles
vs
"The Messiah of the Backbreaker" Roderick Strong
Notable: Glorified squash, which is a shame given how good Strong can be, but it did what it was supposed to, which was let AJ show off his key spots. The Daniels spot was under-explained, despite Christopher's excellent character work.
Finish: Roderick is pinned with the Styles Clash.
"The Alpha Male" Monty Brown
vs
"Jobber" Lex Lovett
Notable: Mmm, tasty squash...
Finish: Jobber felt... the... POOOOOUUUUUNCE! Period. They're trying to get Monty over as dominant without hurting too many big names, so this was fine for that.
Chris "Hail Me" Sabin
vs
"Canadian Destroyer" Petey Williams
vs
Alex "Screw You, Sean" Shelley
Notable: Nice psychology, with the heels working together, but not fully. Funny when they decided to rush Chris, but Shelley stayed put. :D The Asai looked nasty on Sabin's shins, and everyone's style came through. Plus I now dub the running sitout powerbomb, "the Sabin Bomb", so there, Mike Awesome and Jushin Liger! :p
Finish: Sabin hits Shelley with the CradleShock for the 3.
Aftermath: Petey nails the Destroyer on Sabin in order to make every new viewer go "WTF?!"
Jeff "I Sing Along With My Theme Music" Hardy
vs
"The Man-Beast" Rhino
Notable: Not much, although it's sad when Rhino is the energetic one in this pair. He looked good, and Jeff looked stoned. Decent for a Hardy match, but meh...
Finish: Abyss ran (or ambled) in causing an NC.
Aftermath: Heels beat up Jeff then... LIGHTS OUT!
SABU! Chair shots, high spots, and faces are happy and doped up in the ring.
Angles
Lookee, Here's Who's Who! : The video packages were nice, and sold everyone as being special. Although Monty's "Universe" and Larry's 3 Stooges lines were silly. The X-division one was great, and pushed Sabin and Petey alongside AJ, Joe and Daniels! :)
See, Now He All Mad, An' Stuff : Raven beating up security was effective but not the right way to go. Raven should be working with Ray and Devon, with the ECW connection.
Larry, I'm Hooome! : Tito showed up, as promised, and did nothing of note. He made a lame joke, as did Larry and that was it. Now, granted, I don't follow MMA, and many viewers probably do, so this was good to grab their interest, but I'm unimpressed.
Serengheti TV : Monty's promo was great. It was gonna be a squash, and he sold his confidence for that. Plus he was clearly pumped and enjoying it, and that came through. One problem, is he heel or face now? I can't tell, and I was a fan coming in, how's a newcomer supposed to know?
Ain't We Great? : Jarrett's new heel stable are impressive. (I like AMW's "sell out" look, suited and booted, and James kept the Cowboy thing with the jeans and hat, plus he did the Jarrett V's, which was cute) Jeff made his point pretty quick, but D'Amore looks uncomfortable. Hopefully he'll loosen up, cos he can be pretty fun when he does. 3LK got a decent debut, although Ron should've been speaking, as he's the ex-NWA champ. Team 3D were electric though, and has Ray lost weight? Devon looks good, but he looked as good as I've ever seen. Their music is good too.
And then there was Nash.
He was fine doing what he did, it's the match I dread. He had trouble hitting his finisher cold, how's he gonna manage 15-30 minutes with JJ?
Verdict
A good first outing, rushed due to the size of the roster and the short timeslot, but as a pilot "This is us" show, it did what it needed to.
Royal
10-02-2005, 06:23 PM
Holy crap. Nash walked to the ring without breaking anything.
Bright-Raven
10-02-2005, 06:54 PM
ECW:
It may be true that if it had been a 2 hour show we could have seen the rest of the roster - or more likely we would have seen more of AJ Styles V. Christopher Daniels or something.
The thing is, they more or less put the known faces and most popular members of the roster out there, and they were found wanting - VERY wanting. JMO.
Monty Brown's promo and "pounce" thing did nothing for me. I couldn't care less whether he's heel or face.
They call that a "pounce"? Do they even know what that word means? To swoop down on, leap out, or seize. In what manner does a three point running shoulder tackle meet those qualifications? If the man was perched in the corner and jumped across the ring with a flying shoulder tackle, or a flying Thesz Press off the top rope into a pinning combination - THAT would be a "pounce". What Monty Brown does is a freakin' spear without wrapping up his opponent and driving them to the mat. Big whoop. :rolleyes:
I'm sorry, ECW, but I've seen much better performances out of the UPW promotion and would probably be far more impressed if they could get a nationally televised show instead.
SUPERECWFAN1
10-02-2005, 09:07 PM
ECW:
It may be true that if it had been a 2 hour show we could have seen the rest of the roster - or more likely we would have seen more of AJ Styles V. Christopher Daniels or something.
The thing is, they more or less put the known faces and most popular members of the roster out there, and they were found wanting - VERY wanting. JMO.
Monty Brown's promo and "pounce" thing did nothing for me. I couldn't care less whether he's heel or face.
They call that a "pounce"? Do they even know what that word means? To swoop down on, leap out, or seize. In what manner does a three point running shoulder tackle meet those qualifications? If the man was perched in the corner and jumped across the ring with a flying shoulder tackle, or a flying Thesz Press off the top rope into a pinning combination - THAT would be a "pounce". What Monty Brown does is a freakin' spear without wrapping up his opponent and driving them to the mat. Big whoop. :rolleyes:
I'm sorry, ECW, but I've seen much better performances out of the UPW promotion and would probably be far more impressed if they could get a nationally televised show instead.
To each his own. If you came in expecting something else I'm sorry BR. TNA Is just something thats not gonna be like ECW or WCW.
ECW:
It may be true that if it had been a 2 hour show we could have seen the rest of the roster - or more likely we would have seen more of AJ Styles V. Christopher Daniels or something.
The thing is, they more or less put the known faces and most popular members of the roster out there, and they were found wanting - VERY wanting. JMO.
Monty Brown's promo and "pounce" thing did nothing for me. I couldn't care less whether he's heel or face.
They call that a "pounce"? Do they even know what that word means? To swoop down on, leap out, or seize. In what manner does a three point running shoulder tackle meet those qualifications? If the man was perched in the corner and jumped across the ring with a flying shoulder tackle, or a flying Thesz Press off the top rope into a pinning combination - THAT would be a "pounce". What Monty Brown does is a freakin' spear without wrapping up his opponent and driving them to the mat. Big whoop. :rolleyes:
I'm sorry, ECW, but I've seen much better performances out of the UPW promotion and would probably be far more impressed if they could get a nationally televised show instead.
Daniels has a match next week. A 3 way with Aries and Bentley. Should be good. (And yes, the Pounce is a bit lame, but is it any worse than the 5 Knuckle Shuffle, the Legdrop o' Doom, or the People's Elbow?)
Monty and AJ basically had squashes. They are capable of very good (Monty) and classic (AJ) matches if given more time. The 3 way is more typical of what to expect.
Holy crap. Nash walked to the ring without breaking anything.
Yes, but he damn near did when he powerbombed Jarrett...
lboinyamouf4sho
10-05-2005, 02:24 AM
ECW:
I'm sorry, ECW, but I've seen much better performances out of the UPW promotion and would probably be far more impressed if they could get a nationally televised show instead.
do you mean pwu?? because if you mean upw out of socal :eek: then i just don't know about you. upw out of socal to put it quite frankly really sucks imo
lboinyamouf4sho
10-05-2005, 02:25 AM
Yes, but he damn near did when he powerbombed Jarrett...
yep, nash is really broken down. it was kind of funny and sa at the same time.
lboinyamouf4sho
10-30-2005, 01:10 AM
10/29/05
pretty good show, best match was the x division tag of aj and sonjay vs former gen next stablemates roderick strong and alex shelly. glad to see roderick being put over with his "messiah of the backbreaker" gimmick although i think maybe they should call him the "master" because they already have 1 messiah already in david young unless they're going to team them up, but i hope not because i like the team of david and elix currently.
the daniels vs the very underrated imo jarelle clark was pretty good to, daniels has just been amazing this year, maybe the mvp of the company.
the tag match between AMW and 3LK was cool but predictable and furthered the 3LK kip james story. i liked the ending.
abyss vs hoyt was a decent opener
again in 1 hour TNA delivered more than raw, but not smackdown anymore. but given 2 hours they could be just as good.
lboinyamouf4sho
10-30-2005, 07:38 AM
matches for the 2 hour special
rhino vs jarrett in a rematch for the hw title
williams vs sabin vs bently in an ultimate x rematch
team 3d vs team canada
aj, sonjay, and aries vs daniels, shelly, and joe
hardy, sabu and hoyt vs diamonds in the rough
so far looking good, espeacily the 6 man tag. i wonder who they're gonna build twards??
i'm also hoping for another win for simon and the boys.
marshal99
10-30-2005, 08:11 AM
do you mean pwu?? because if you mean upw out of socal :eek: then i just don't know about you. upw out of socal to put it quite frankly really sucks imo
Isn't UPW where Fatboy Samoa Joe and current RAW champ John Cena got their start ? If i'm not wrong , both of them were travelling together at one point. Cena went to OVW and then WWE and became their champ , Fat Joe just got his break with TNA. :D
Bright-Raven
10-30-2005, 03:16 PM
Marshall: Correct.
Also Brock Lesnar, Shelton Benjamin, Chris Masters, Spanky, AMW, and several others in the business have either gotten their start or worked in the UPW before moving up the ranks.
I know, I know. Lesnar, Cena, and Masters all "suck". Frankly, fellas, 99% of the people in the business "suck", if you really want to get picky about it.
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Pounce V. Leg drop, 5 Knuckle Shuffle, etc. -
5KS isn't Cena's legit finisher. The only person the leg drop was ever a finisher for was Hogan, and I think we can all agree he sucked for his entire career as far as in-ring skills.
Given that Rhyno's got the damn gore, and there are so many people in TNA with much more dynamic finishers, Monty Brown really needs to find something new.
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The only thing TNA has really shown me is that their cruiserweights -*ahem* I mean, X-Division - has a lot of variety of characters and they all can perform to reasonable level. All of the big men are just as bad as they are in WWE. And they should just dump:
Jarrett, Team 3-D, Nash, Raven, Jeff Hardy, Sabu, Abyss, 3 Live Kru and whatever the hell Billy Gunn's going by these days, Lance Hoyt & Rhyno.
Oh I know, I know - you need "recognizeable names" for the kiddies who only watched WWE. :rolleyes: No, really, I don't.
Lose them and put the decent talent they have on the screen. (Mainly their X-Divison guys. I don't know enough about or seen enough of Team Canada to have made a decision other than they have a really annoying manager.)
Marshall: Correct.
Also Brock Lesnar, Shelton Benjamin, Chris Masters, Spanky, AMW, and several others in the business have either gotten their start or worked in the UPW before moving up the ranks.
I know, I know. Lesnar, Cena, and Masters all "suck". Frankly, fellas, 99% of the people in the business "suck", if you really want to get picky about it.
*******
Pounce V. Leg drop, 5 Knuckle Shuffle, etc. -
5KS isn't Cena's legit finisher. The only person the leg drop was ever a finisher for was Hogan, and I think we can all agree he sucked for his entire career as far as in-ring skills.
Given that Rhyno's got the damn gore, and there are so many people in TNA with much more dynamic finishers, Monty Brown really needs to find something new.
**************
The only thing TNA has really shown me is that their cruiserweights -*ahem* I mean, X-Division - has a lot of variety of characters and they all can perform to reasonable level. All of the big men are just as bad as they are in WWE. And they should just dump:
Jarrett, Team 3-D, Nash, Raven, Jeff Hardy, Sabu, Abyss, 3 Live Kru and whatever the hell Billy Gunn's going by these days, Lance Hoyt & Rhyno.
Oh I know, I know - you need "recognizeable names" for the kiddies who only watched WWE. :rolleyes: No, really, I don't.
Lose them and put the decent talent they have on the screen. (Mainly their X-Divison guys. I don't know enough about or seen enough of Team Canada to have made a decision other than they have a really annoying manager.)
I had a big list of who should be kept, but it basically came down to dropping Gunn, and 2/3 of 3LK. Nash is out anyway, and everyone else has something to contribute to a well-rounded product. You need the ECW-esque, haevyweight and tag stuff to break up the X-division matches, otherwise it could get monotonous, like eating steak every meal. Once or twice, you want a potato wedge, or some peas.
Bright-Raven
10-30-2005, 04:07 PM
I didn't say that you didn't need different style matches. I'm saying you don't need THOSE people to provide it.
I didn't say that you didn't need different style matches. I'm saying you don't need THOSE people to provide it.
Given that a few of those guys (Sabu, Raven, Hoyt, Abyss, 3D) have been darned entertaining and others are talented (Jarrett, Killings, Rhino) but are being somewhat misused, what do you suggest?
master of read
10-30-2005, 06:21 PM
i'd say the wwe has something to worry about. they even copied a move from tna. the five man suplex.
Royal
10-30-2005, 07:43 PM
I should also mention that Joe is a stick master. He can work the mic. Back in the UPW days, Joe used to do an internet radio show with Loonie Lane, The Prototype (John Cena), & Big Schwag (AKA The Voice of Monster Garage). Him and Schwag, I believe, could run rings around Lawler & Ross.
Bright-Raven
10-30-2005, 07:56 PM
3-D = too old - oh yeah, they're just *so* entertaining watching them yap yap yap and then get beat down by AMW and Jarrett, or by Team Canada.
Sabu = too old & busted up. So the man can do spots. Big deal.
Raven = too old and character never was that great.
Jarrett = Too old, and I'm so tired of the guitar shtick. What is it - 11 years now? Be a new character, for gods' sakes! Oh wait, that's right, you can't because you always sucked!
Abyss = ripoff of Kane & Mankind. Yeah, I always need more of the psycho nutcase characters. :rolleyes:
Hoyt = complete joke - a Texan who wears L.A. gang attire. Right.
Killings = has never shown me squat. And break dancing died out 10 years ago. Move on and create a new character, ya moron.
Rhyno = barely tolerable in ring, and no character personality.
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So no, Gaz, those people are not remotely entertaining to me.
AJ Styles? Entertaining. Fallen Angel Christopher Daniels? Sure. Sonjay Dutt? Interesting but I want to see more of a character with him. The guy who does all the backbreaker moves is interesting in ring and needs a character. Monty Brown needs a new character and a stronger moveset. Team Canada I need to see more of before I make any comment on. AMW is all right. The Naturals I only saw the one match where they lost the belts and I guess one of them broke his leg, so it'll be a while before we see more of them again.
Now, who would I bring in to TNA?
1) Sean O' Haire - The man was on a major hot streak in WCW as a singles and tag team competitor. Then WWE bought the company out, and in the intercompany war matches, Taker took a stiff standing side kick to the face from O' Haire during the Taker/Kane V. Palumbo / O'Haire match, and Taker busted him down into oblivion on politics after that. He barely emerged 2 years later with Piper, and creative just didn't do anything with him. He has moved into MMA territory now, but I think he really got screwed out of his calling.
2) Shane "Ma'Koa" Roberts. One part Jimmy Superfly Snuka, one part the Rock.
A lot of the guys I would have brought into TNA have come into the WWE in the past 2-3 years and are being misused in the low teir / midcard levels.
I would've liked to have seen Najavo Warrior and Shooting Wolf in the tag team division, but NW's getting too old. Not sure how old SW is, but he needs to get into better shape, and then maybe a singles push could work for him. (After all, he actually does a SPINNING "Rock Bottom".)
And I would've liked to have seen Vampiro back while he was still able to go.
Phoney Bone
10-31-2005, 04:58 PM
So, what do you folks think about that meeting between Jerry Jarrett and Vince McMahon Jr.?
So, what do you folks think about that meeting between Jerry Jarrett and Vince McMahon Jr.?
Boo-hoo, Jerry was killing TNA, they stopped listening to him, they got good, he's upset that they stopped listening, but he's only got like 5% shares, so he whines to Vince and Lawler...
Phoney Bone
11-01-2005, 01:36 PM
Boo-hoo, Jerry was killing TNA, they stopped listening to him, they got good, he's upset that they stopped listening, but he's only got like 5% shares, so he whines to Vince and Lawler...
See, that's why I never got into TNA. I had the luxury of growing up with Memphis wrestling when it was run by Jarrett and Lawler. Even looking at the old stuff now, it still holds up to today's wrestling. When Jarrett sold out to Lawler, the nose-dive in quality was astounding. Years later, TNA appears and it the most horrid, Wrestlecrap infested org I've ever seen (Tag Team Penises???). When Jarrett and lawler were working together, few could top them in terms of action, story, characters, and drama. Separatley... meh.
IMO... I don't think Jerry had that much creative input from day one. He was the business guy. I think TNA was JEFF'S little sandbox from the start.
See, that's why I never got into TNA. I had the luxury of growing up with Memphis wrestling when it was run by Jarrett and Lawler. Even looking at the old stuff now, it still holds up to today's wrestling. When Jarrett sold out to Lawler, the nose-dive in quality was astounding. Years later, TNA appears and it the most horrid, Wrestlecrap infested org I've ever seen (Tag Team Penises???). When Jarrett and lawler were working together, few could top them in terms of action, story, characters, and drama. Separatley... meh.
IMO... I don't think Jerry had that much creative input from day one. He was the business guy. I think TNA was JEFF'S little sandbox from the start.
Hmm, given how good it got when the creative team (including Jeff, yes) which Jerry HATED came in, and he had a lot of stroke when Russo was running things (which included the Johnsons/Shanes, who now work for Vince... :p ), I have to wonder exactly how much of that was the pairing, letting each veto the other's bad ideas.
GremlinClr
11-01-2005, 07:29 PM
(Tag Team Penises???).
OK, you can't say something like that and not explain it. Spill!
Phoney Bone
11-01-2005, 11:51 PM
OK, you can't say something like that and not explain it. Spill!
In the early days of TNA, they had a masked tag team called "The Johnsons" covered head-to-toe in solid caucasian flesh-colored costumes. First names: Dick and Rod.
Then there was the dwarf jerkin' his gerkin in a garabe can.
I'm suprised that there wasn't a wrestler named Michael Hunt on the show.
lboinyamouf4sho
11-02-2005, 05:04 AM
Isn't UPW where Fatboy Samoa Joe and current RAW champ John Cena got their start ? If i'm not wrong , both of them were travelling together at one point. Cena went to OVW and then WWE and became their champ , Fat Joe just got his break with TNA. :D
yes that's upw, it sucks now.
lboinyamouf4sho
11-04-2005, 12:38 AM
didn't get to see all of the 2 hour special, but i did catch the 6 man x division match and it was great. looks like were going to see a joe daniels fued. anyone know if there's going to be a replay??
Royal
11-04-2005, 05:04 AM
Isn't UPW where Fatboy Samoa Joe and current RAW champ John Cena got their start ? If i'm not wrong , both of them were travelling together at one point. Cena went to OVW and then WWE and became their champ , Fat Joe just got his break with TNA. :D
Hell yeah. Joe taught Cena how to rap. Hell, back when they had the web radio show, Joe & Cena would get into battles out of the blue sometimes.
Royal
11-04-2005, 05:06 AM
didn't get to see all of the 2 hour special, but i did catch the 6 man x division match and it was great. looks like were going to see a joe daniels fued. anyone know if there's going to be a replay??
I got a few questions.
1. How far did Sonjay's lungs fly into the stands?
2. Did someone catch them?
3. Were they properly returned?
I got a few questions.
1. How far did Sonjay's lungs fly into the stands?
2. Did someone catch them?
3. Were they properly returned?
1. About 30 feet
2. Borash carries a catcher's mitt, just for that purpose.
3. Not until the Sunday, as punishment for the "Sprinkler".
BoosterBronze
11-04-2005, 09:41 AM
TNA Seriously needs a new direction with it's video packages... or at least a couple new ideas, or a new narrator or something. I can't even keep the PPV's straight. Each month is exactly the same.
DEEP VOICE GUY: These modern day warriors
(Footage of AJ Flipping)
DVG: Something Something Imortality
(Jarrett with a guitar, AJ Flipping in Ultimate X, Those Giant Satelite Dishes)
DVG: Innovation, Dreamers, Blah Blah
(Primetime off the cage, followed by AJ Flipping)
DVG: The New Face of professional wrestling
It was AWESOME the first few times we saw it... a year and a half ago whenImpact started on Fox. Now it's just getting silly.
Forefinger
11-04-2005, 10:00 AM
Hoyt = complete joke - a Texan who wears L.A. gang attire. Right.
And he has a "super gay" tatoo on his lower back. My wife commented when I was watching the 2 hour special that I recorded this morning; "why does that guy have a chick tatoo?" Yeah, many of the heavyweight guys are a joke. The X-Division is why I tune in.
BoosterBronze
11-04-2005, 10:22 AM
And he has a "super gay" tatoo on his lower back. My wife commented when I was watching the 2 hour special that I recorded this morning; "why does that guy have a chick tatoo?" Yeah, many of the heavyweight guys are a joke. The X-Division is why I tune in.
In Hoyt's defense, I haven't seen a lot of LA Street Gang members who rock baggy vinyl pants and leather bracelets. Does this mean anyone wearing a beanie is a Street Gang member?
Though his back tattoo is quite lame.
Forefinger
11-04-2005, 11:05 AM
In Hoyt's defense, I haven't seen a lot of LA Street Gang members who rock baggy vinyl pants and leather bracelets. Does this mean anyone wearing a beanie is a Street Gang member?
Though his back tattoo is quite lame.
My wife also said: "That would be a cool tatoo if it was on his upper back, only women get tatoos on their lower backs like that". I think it would be lame anywhere, but it's gay on his lower back. What's up with dat?
clayholio
11-04-2005, 12:43 PM
Unfortunately, that stupid lower back tattoo was the first thing I noticed about Lance Hoyt. Someone really should have told him that was a bad idea. He's a lot better in the ring than he was during his days as Kid Kash's sidekick, but...that stupid tattoo!
Welll to tell you the truth I don't pay atention to their various tatoos unless it's so frickin' big it jumps off the screen at me.....I judge them more on their persoanlity and how well they can wrestle and I'll Put Hoyt up against say Eugene any day.
Bright-Raven
11-04-2005, 01:31 PM
In Hoyt's defense, I haven't seen a lot of LA Street Gang members who rock baggy vinyl pants and leather bracelets. Does this mean anyone wearing a beanie is a Street Gang member?
Okay, okay - an 80s L.A. Street Gang member. Sheesh. ;)
Forefinger
11-04-2005, 01:47 PM
Welll to tell you the truth I don't pay atention to their various tatoos unless it's so frickin' big it jumps off the screen at me.....I judge them more on their persoanlity and how well they can wrestle and I'll Put Hoyt up against say Eugene any day.
Naw, hell no. That damn tatoo ruins the guy for me. He doesn't even seem to be that good of a wrassler. And he wears the see thru shirts.....what is this guy's problem? 6'9"? yup. Well built? yup. Should be a bad ass dude, not so semi 80's gang dude with homosexual body art.
lboinyamouf4sho
11-05-2005, 02:20 AM
And he has a "super gay" tatoo on his lower back. My wife commented when I was watching the 2 hour special that I recorded this morning; "why does that guy have a chick tatoo?" Yeah, many of the heavyweight guys are a joke. The X-Division is why I tune in.
my woman asked "is that guy gay or what??" when she saw hoyt also, i simply responded "yes" he's not that bad in the ring though, he has surprised me a few times. btw in california a tattoo like his on the lower back is commonly known as a "slut stamp"
lboinyamouf4sho
11-06-2005, 04:15 AM
[QUOTE=Phoney Bone]In the early days of TNA, they had a masked tag team called "The Johnsons" covered head-to-toe in solid caucasian flesh-colored costumes. First names: Dick and Rod.
/QUOTE]
what's worse is it seems vince has ripped off this idea and formed his own version called "the dicks" that's right, the dicks, not the shane twins this time but some other twins, i think the tolands.
In the early days of TNA, they had a masked tag team called "The Johnsons" covered head-to-toe in solid caucasian flesh-colored costumes. First names: Dick and Rod.
what's worse is it seems vince has ripped off this idea and formed his own version called "the dicks" that's right, the dicks, not the shane twins this time but some other twins, i think the tolands.
Yes, Vince HAS the Shanes under contract, but chooses to kill the TOLANDS by making them wrestling wangs too.
Forefinger
11-06-2005, 07:54 PM
my woman asked "is that guy gay or what??" when she saw hoyt also, i simply responded "yes" he's not that bad in the ring though, he has surprised me a few times. btw in california a tattoo like his on the lower back is commonly known as a "slut stamp"
Yeah, with Hoyt's "slut stamp" and Daniel's choker, I'm thinking that TNA is going for the homosexual wrasslin' demographic. Either that or those dudes do each other....
Melbourne Mew Mew
11-06-2005, 10:41 PM
Frank Pozen on the Women's Wrestling World YahooGroup mentioned that Gail Kim has apparrently poured cold water on rumors of TNA starting up a women's division, saying she doesn't expect it to happen anytime soon.
I believe the original interview was at www.wrestlingepicenter.com
Frank Pozen on the Women's Wrestling World YahooGroup mentioned that Gail Kim has apparrently poured cold water on rumors of TNA starting up a women's division, saying she doesn't expect it to happen anytime soon.
I believe the original interview was at www.wrestlingepicenter.com
They barely have time for the 3 divisions they have, with one hour of TV per week.
lboinyamouf4sho
11-10-2005, 06:48 AM
11/12/05 IMPACT MATCHES
6MAN TAG
AMW and jeff jarrett vs jeff hardy, hoyt, and sabin, warm up for jeff and his boys i suppose.
FINISHER CHALLENGE
AJ vs petey, why?? i have no idea, i think this would've been better for the ppv.
joe vs austin aries, this has great potential, please give it enough time
and once again here is the promo piece for midway TNA video game
The main event was supposed to be Hardy and the Naturals, but Chase's injury meant that Lance and Chris filled in.
lboinyamouf4sho
11-10-2005, 07:02 AM
The main event was supposed to be Hardy and the Naturals, but Chase's injury meant that Lance and Chris filled in.
where do you see the naturals heading in the midst of the 3D AMW fued??
where do you see the naturals heading in the midst of the 3D AMW fued??
Floating around for a bit, until Ray and Devon win the belts, then either turning heel and feuding with them, or with the James boys.
I'd actually give them, and maybe Jackie (or Nora Greenwald if she's available) to Christian as an entourage.
lboinyamouf4sho
11-10-2005, 07:10 AM
Floating around for a bit, until Ray and Devon win the belts, then either turning heel and feuding with them, or with the James boys.
I'd actually give them, and maybe Jackie (or Nora Greenwald if she's available) to Christian as an entourage.
but then christian would have to come in as a face??
but then christian would have to come in as a face??
Like he won't get popped anyway. Second he says "'cause that's how I roll!" the place'll go nuts.
lboinyamouf4sho
11-10-2005, 07:19 AM
Like he won't get popped anyway. Second he says "'cause that's how I roll!" the place'll go nuts.
yeah, they might as well make him face. to be honest though i don't really look forward to a long fued between him and jarrett. i wouldn't mind a heel christian as champ(even though i'm not a fan of him) because it would be fresh and different. i'm not sure how he's going to fit in. maybe team with rhino, they have a little history from when rhino 1st debuted, but i never thought rhino, E & C meshed very well together.
marshal99
11-10-2005, 07:43 AM
Ah , if Christian come in as a face , well ...Jeff Jarrett will have a ready made guitar shot especially for him i'm sure.
But ...if Raven and Rhino can get the gold , i don't see why "Christian Cage" cannot win the TNA gold.
lboinyamouf4sho
11-10-2005, 07:46 AM
Ah , if Christian come in as a face , well ...Jeff Jarrett will have a ready made guitar shot especially for him i'm sure.
But ...if Raven and Rhino can get the gold , i don't see why "Christian Cage" cannot win the TNA gold.
because then CC would have to be the #1 heel in tna, which jj i don't think will let happen.
lboinyamouf4sho
11-13-2005, 06:31 AM
11/12/05
only got to see bits and pieces, did anybody watch it?? i'll catch the replay on monday.
Shem the Penman
11-13-2005, 09:08 AM
I watched it. Decent show with no particular surprises, other than Zbyszko making the 3LK/Team Canada match tonight a "Hockey Stick on a Pole" match. Aren't " ... on a pole" matches a pointless joke yet? Main event was too short. AJ and Petey put on the best match.
Kip James needs to die for sullying the memory of Chappelle's Show with his sucky wrestling.
I watched it. Decent show with no particular surprises, other than Zbyszko making the 3LK/Team Canada match tonight a "Hockey Stick on a Pole" match. Aren't " ... on a pole" matches a pointless joke yet? Main event was too short. AJ and Petey put on the best match.
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Pole matches won't be over until we finally see the fabled Geritol on a pole match.
lboinyamouf4sho
11-16-2005, 01:04 AM
Pole matches won't be over until we finally see the fabled Geritol on a pole match.
anybody remember the "judy bagwell on a forklift" match??
anybody remember the "judy bagwell on a forklift" match??
Is that like the Paul Bearer above a ladder match, or did I dream that?
lboinyamouf4sho
11-16-2005, 03:12 AM
Is that like the Paul Bearer above a ladder match, or did I dream that?
paul was in a glass coffin full of cement last i saw him :eek:
lboinyamouf4sho
12-04-2005, 01:31 AM
good show tonight, nice opener with shelly vs sabin vs aries vs williams. alex shelly is a great heel, the crowd actually boos him. he's one of the few who actually has a character and should be pushed. i really feel it's time for AJ, joe, and daniels to take it to the HW division and let others rise to the top of the x-division.
did you guys see tough enoughs kenny king vs abyss?? although this was just a squash i've seen kenny king live and the guy was pretty good, hope to see more of him in TNA. afterwards sabu attacks and gets owned by abyss.
i'm definately digging AMW more as heels. if one of those guys gets a singles push i hope it james storm. he has more character than chris harris with his drunk cowboy thing.
jarrett does his promo and christians busts it up they brawl, jarrett exits ring and bobby rude attacks. jackie comes out and slaps jarrett again.
raven vs all 3 diamonds in the rough, puts up a good fight but the diamonds are too much.
show closes with joe beating down AJ.
feel free to fill in what ever i left out.
Wild Card
12-04-2005, 03:03 AM
You left out the part when Don West run into Bobby Hennan in the parking lot. Also the interview with 4 Live Kru and BJ's dad Bullet Bob Armstrong.
I wonder when they will reveal "Raven's Girl Friend".
lboinyamouf4sho
12-04-2005, 04:50 AM
You left out the part when Don West run into Bobby Hennan in the parking lot. Also the interview with 4 Live Kru and BJ's dad Bullet Bob Armstrong.
I wonder when they will reveal "Raven's Girl Friend".
i didn't see those parts, i was trying to watch while at work. great to hear the weasel was there.
lboinyamouf4sho
12-18-2005, 01:47 AM
12/17/05
i only saw the 2nd 1/2 of the show and things are definately looking up, the only good match i saw was 3D vs the diamonds and 3D was looking like they are almost back to top form, and at the end of the match still looked fresh and ready to go another 15-20 minutes. d-von looks like a beast and bubba has trimmed down. what i was more impressed with are the signs of improvement in the character development and storylines. rhino cut a nice promo and had the fans firmly behind him after his squash match and the commentary was putting him over now as the "war machine" instead of the manbeast, i think that's a good thing. also jarrett did actually cut a good promo despite the "borring chants and set up montys promo well, monty also cut a good promo siding with jarrett while maintaining his character. the end was also nicely done with stings music hitting and then 3D, rhino, and christian coming out and the show ending with a stand off instead of the standard TNA brawl ending.
anyone catch the 1st 1/2, DANH perhaps??
lboinyamouf4sho
12-18-2005, 01:48 AM
also the rock was technicaly on TNA tonight
clayholio
12-18-2005, 02:24 AM
I was surprised that the Joe/Lethal match was as competitive as it was. The highlight tho' was the staredown between Jeff Jarrett and Samoa Joe before the match. Joe's gonna kill you!
Every time I see D-Von, I'm amazed at how much better he looks than during the WWE run. He's making Bubba... I mean Brother Ray look very bad by comparison.
James Mitchell is really, really good. And Abyss' arm is really messed up. I hope they push the hell out of Abyss just so Mitchell can keep talking.
Tonight was a good show, although I was a little annoyed that Christian's only appearance was at the end, and he didn't do or say anything. Oh well. A minor annoyance from a pretty good show.
lboinyamouf4sho
12-18-2005, 02:59 AM
i'll catch what i missed on mondays replay. their starting to build a nice little "war" storyline, it's almost like NWO but with the heel/face roles reversed. you have the TNA mainstays jarrett, AMW, team canada, and monty brown as heels and the new TNA guys 3D, rhino, christian, and soon sting as the faces. anything happen on the 3LK front??
vertigo_phreeze
12-18-2005, 04:40 AM
damn, i just got to finally watch the PPV last night (friggin awesome!), and now it sounds like a badass follow up of a show. i cant wait to check it out.
when is Sting suppossed to actually show up? also, has anyone seen him lately? what kinda shape is he in?
lboinyamouf4sho
12-18-2005, 04:51 AM
damn, i just got to finally watch the PPV last night (friggin awesome!), and now it sounds like a badass follow up of a show. i cant wait to check it out.
when is Sting suppossed to actually show up? also, has anyone seen him lately? what kinda shape is he in?
hopefully sting will debut at the next ppv, TNA is showing improvement weekly.
on a sidenote anybody else think james storm should get a singles push after AMW has made it's final run??
clayholio
12-18-2005, 11:13 AM
i'll catch what i missed on mondays replay. their starting to build a nice little "war" storyline, it's almost like NWO but with the heel/face roles reversed. you have the TNA mainstays jarrett, AMW, team canada, and monty brown as heels and the new TNA guys 3D, rhino, christian, and soon sting as the faces. anything happen on the 3LK front??
There was an interview with Konnan and Killings, but they weren't getting along. It looks like Killings might finally be in line for another singles run.
SUPERECWFAN1
12-18-2005, 11:31 AM
hopefully sting will debut at the next ppv, TNA is showing improvement weekly.
on a sidenote anybody else think james storm should get a singles push after AMW has made it's final run??
Chris Harris should and has been teased as a singles star. Harris and Jarrett had a good Title Match back in 2004 while Storm was out. I do think when AMW gets thier final run he'll be split off and tried as a singles star.
also the rock was technicaly on TNA tonight
:eek: ....How did that happen?
lboinyamouf4sho
12-21-2005, 01:27 AM
:eek: ....How did that happen?
the video game awards segment, they show AJ and jarrett and then say "you'll never believe who jeff jarrett ran into last night backstage at the VGA's" and then they show the rock.
lboinyamouf4sho
12-21-2005, 01:30 AM
Chris Harris should and has been teased as a singles star. Harris and Jarrett had a good Title Match back in 2004 while Storm was out. I do think when AMW gets thier final run he'll be split off and tried as a singles star.
xactly my point, harris had his push already in mainevents vs jarrett and still never developed any character. storm while being a heel has developed his cocky young drunk cowboy character and carried their promos while harris stands in the background being a "wildcat" whatever the hell that is. i'm starting to see some signs in the crowd for storm too.
Bright-Raven
12-21-2005, 06:39 AM
When is Sting supposed to actually show up? Also, has anyone seen him lately? What kinda shape is he in?
See Attached Photos - they're about 6 weeks old. (Source: TNA) But they're street clothes only.
I'd say he's going to look a bit bulkier than he did at the end of WCW, with hair style more akin to his Surfer Sting era, only with his natural dark hair, greying at the temples. Outfit will be the solid black unitard with the scorpion design up the sides, the black gloves, the trenchcoat (possibly with scorpion in a circle emblazoned on the back). Face paint is what I don't know. I'm hoping he changes away from "Kabuki Crow" Sting, because that look only works with the long hair. Hopefully it'll be more akin to his Surfer Sting (even white & black only would be fine).
marshal99
12-21-2005, 07:38 AM
See Attached Photos - they're about 6 weeks old. (Source: TNA) But they're street clothes only.
I'd say he's going to look a bit bulkier than he did at the end of WCW, with hair style more akin to his Surfer Sting era, only with his natural dark hair, greying at the temples. Outfit will be the solid black unitard with the scorpion design up the sides, the black gloves, the trenchcoat (possibly with scorpion in a circle emblazoned on the back). Face paint is what I don't know. I'm hoping he changes away from "Kabuki Crow" Sting, because that look only works with the long hair. Hopefully it'll be more akin to his Surfer Sting (even white & black only would be fine).
He's really looking his old age of 46 with all the grey hair , i wonder whether he'll be phoning in his performance in the ring and let all the younger guys carry him.
torippu
12-21-2005, 08:40 AM
See Attached Photos - they're about 6 weeks old. (Source: TNA) But they're street clothes only.
I'd say he's going to look a bit bulkier than he did at the end of WCW, with hair style more akin to his Surfer Sting era, only with his natural dark hair, greying at the temples. Outfit will be the solid black unitard with the scorpion design up the sides, the black gloves, the trenchcoat (possibly with scorpion in a circle emblazoned on the back). Face paint is what I don't know. I'm hoping he changes away from "Kabuki Crow" Sting, because that look only works with the long hair. Hopefully it'll be more akin to his Surfer Sting (even white & black only would be fine).
Completely unrelated question to the thread topic - is that Nikita Koloff between Greg Valentine & Ted Dibiase in the second photo?
JohnPopa
12-21-2005, 08:43 AM
Looks like Nikita, although he looks like hell.
Well,...If Flair can carry the IC title at his age and Hogan can be a Tag Team Champ at his age then I see no reason why Sting isn't capable of getting in there and putting on good matches and possible winning the title.
Bright-Raven
12-21-2005, 10:40 PM
Yeah, that's Nikita Koloff in the one photo, and yes, he looks bad but I believe he had some serious health problems a while back that contributed to this.
The photos are from one of their religious wrestling shows that Dibiase puts on. They showed the rather abyssmal Sting bio pic and he had a discussion with fans about his being Born Again and stuff.
I've got nothing against the guys for being Born Again Christians or for having some moral standards, and I think their attitudes towards the less than savory storylines Vince McMahon puts on are very solid. But at the same time, when they do their Christian Shows... it's overkill in the opposite direction, from what I've heard.
Bright-Raven
12-21-2005, 10:52 PM
No one said Sting wasn't capable, DanH. Sting in his prime was as athletically gifted as anyone in the X-Division today. But he's past that prime now and while I think we all have fond memories of his career and of the performer as a person as he truly was one of the really good people in the business, it's hard to expect him to be able to match up comparatively with the speed of the X-Division talents, and that's a big, big component of what makes TNA work as a business model, is the speed of the talent pool in comparison to WWE or other organizations.
And him beating Abyss (lame ripoff of Mankind / Kane), or Sabu (old man), or Jeff Jarrett (old man) or Raven (been there, done that)... Rhino (been there done that)... Ron Killings (joke)... the rest of 4 Live Krew of whatever they call themselves have always been a joke... none of those matchups are really going to matter.
They're not feeding Samoa Joe or Monty Brown to him, that's for sure. (Although those two are probably the best matchups available in TNA)
Who really is there for Sting to compete against in TNA where he will look strong without making the opponents look weak? Because the X-Division guys should roll over him speed wise. Sting might be the only guy I've ever marked out for, but I have to be realistic. Not saying he can't win - all it takes is him getting out of the way of a move, opponent hurts leg and time for Scorpion Death Lock. Or a missed move into the Scorpion Death Drop. Fine. But in terms of him really be the chain wrestler or being "cute" with the young guys of today, probably not gonna happen.
lboinyamouf4sho
12-22-2005, 12:53 AM
the role stings going to have in TNA is fairly obvious, he's going to head the faction of christian, rhino, and team 3D in the "war" storyline and in the process hopefully he can help get guys like abyss, monty brown, and james storm more over and he just may be able to get either christian or 3D over as heels depending on who turns. i thinksting might be the only one who can get captain charisma over as a heel right now
SUPERECWFAN1
12-22-2005, 12:58 AM
I find it humerous that Spike TV has decided to start paying half Stings salary and travel costs. Thats when your damn committed people. And this is a Cable Network doing this. :)
lboinyamouf4sho
12-22-2005, 01:00 AM
I find it humerous that Spike TV has decided to start paying half Stings salary and travel costs. Thats when your damn committed people. And this is a Cable Network doing this. :)
that's why i believe they will give TNA a 2 hour slot, what are they waiting for is what i want to know??
Scorpion13
12-22-2005, 07:59 AM
We cant expect Sting to go out there and tear it up like back in the day. However, if he stick to the technical style Flair does, he should be fine.
Sting hasnt let me down yet. Im giving him the benefit of the doubt on this. Id have to see him suck more than a few times to accept that he's lost it.
lboinyamouf4sho
12-23-2005, 03:11 AM
i've never been a sting fan, but if he helps get more people to watch/get better ratings=2 hour better time slot then i'm all for it. and hopefully he will in some way help to get the belt off jarrett idealy by getting somebody, anybody over enough as a heel that they have heat worthy of being a champ.
lboinyamouf4sho
01-15-2006, 02:31 AM
1/14/06
abyss in a squash against lethal as it should be for now, glad to see lethal back although i'm not a huge fan of his he is good and solid and would be a nice addition to the roster especialy if they get a 2 hour slot.
joe squashes cassidy riley, AJ chases shanon moore through the ring durring the match and joe hits AJ with a forearm i think AJ hits him with the pele before making his exit. afterwards something happens between joe and daniels who was on commentary for the match but i missed what happend.
xcellent 6man match between team canada(young/willams/A1)vs sonjay/sabin/bently lots of fast paced action and ended with the smoothest canadian destroyer i've seen, petey kind of ran into it while sabin was crouched over.
good tag match between AMW and christian/rhino, both rhino and christian are massively over with the crowd and AMW get lots of heat too. christian opens up his moveset a bit and finishes the match with a D-lo brown style frogsplash.
pretty good show for being the lead into a ppv, they put together sme decent video packages showcasing the the fueds. i still don't understand why they wait till the night before the ppv to hype the tanahashi/styles match. they did the same crap with joe/liger. :confused:
lboinyamouf4sho
05-05-2006, 01:31 AM
5/4/06
decent. another squash free show. as much crap as people talk about TNA i truely believe they make a significant effort to please their fans, which could be a fault as you can never please everybody.
putting AJ & daniels as a tag team is a good move imo, 2 birds with one stone. gets both AJ & daniels out of the x-division but keeps both in a pretty high profile fued with AMW. didn't get to see the whole thing but seemed like a good match to set up for the PPV, xpect to see a handcuffed beatdown next week on impact.
x-cup was cool. never heard of that magnum guy though anybody got info on him?? it was nice to see shocker and johnny devine back and eric young was good as usual.
the nash interview i found pretty funny, looks like big kevs a heel once again. hopefully he'll come back only as a manager or comish or something.
shelly vs christain was good, just as competitive as it should've been. the champ came off looking strong.
i hope they do something with homicide soon, thank god the james gang fued is finaly over. maybe a fued with senshi, that would be awesome.
clayholio
05-05-2006, 10:12 AM
Cool, the TNA thread has been resurrected!
Three pretty good matches! If you put AJ and Christopher Daniels in the same ring, there's going to be at least a decent match (even if they were wrestling the Nasty Boys). It's nice to see a new tag team thrown into the mix. There are a lot of tag teams (AMW, Team 3D, Team Canada, James Gang), and I even like some of them, but I really don't want to see any of them wrestle each other anymore.
I like the World X Cup matches. I kind of wish that Team Canada wasn't part of it (or that there was a renegade Team Canada), but it's not like they're bad or anything. Shocker and Magnum were pretty good, does anyone know who's the 3rd member of Team Mexico?
The Christian/Alex Shelley match was good, Christian looked very good as the pissed off champ-without-a-belt, and he pulled out some new moves. It was also nice to see Alex Shelley having a credible match with a non-X-Division guy.
The only problem I had with the Kevin Nash interview is that they never used his TNA entrance music. I want to see Nash just for that.
Anyhow, it was a pretty good show. Ditching the 30-second squash matches is making for a better show. I don't mind a squash match every now and then, but they mean more when you don't watch 3 of them in a row.
noh-varr
05-05-2006, 02:09 PM
I enjoyed the show, my only problem with last night and has been pretty constant with TNA is that their tv shows matches are usually non title matches when the champ is involved. Which is bs, Christian was going to win there was no doubt, but make it for the title please. It doesn't fit with his push of givng anyone a chance for the belt, not wanting to screw others over due to politics shtick. It's only a minor complaint but it bugs me everytime.
I am loving the Abyss push cuz I enjoy Mitchell talking, the only reason I want to see Abyss when the belt. Plus that can lead to Sting taking the belt from Abyss, I recall something bout Sting wanting to do a program with him....
lboinyamouf4sho
01-18-2007, 05:03 PM
damn, it's been awhile but i think more people watch now.
1/18/07
anybody plannining on watching tonight?? sundays PPV was pretty good so it'll be interesting to see how they follow up. 1st show and the begining of the new champ christian cages reign!!
my thoughts on the ppv, Final Resolution,
AJ vs rhino last man standing, AJ has new pants!! really i thought he was matt sydal when he 1st came down the ramp. it's a cool look and it's about time for a change. real good action in the match but not much is resolved, both men trade pins(last man standing in TNA the ten count doesn't start until after a man is pinned) but when rhino pulls out a table AJ say screw that and doesn't get up. rhino is not happy and gives AJ a short beatdown but AJ outsmarts rhino again sidestepping a gore and sending rhino through a table.
x-division title match chistopher daniels(C) vs chris sabin vs jerry lynn, great match maybe my favorite of the night. sabin gets a pretty heel reaction and plays his role in the match well as do daniels and lynn. nice ending to the match and we have a new x-division champ. hail sabin!!
PCS championship series final alex shelly vs austin starr, it was kind of hard to get into at 1st because of all the distractions but it was a good match once it got going. shelly is quite over as a face after all this. backlund is great here, he comes off as a bumbling bafoon but thats is good, he also comes off as someone who may snap at any moment as austin starr found out after the match getting the crossface chickenwing slapped on him, to add to the viciousness backlund sinks his teeth into starr's shoulder while the hold is locked in. we're also treated to an appearence by Madagascar Championship Wrestlings very own somalian joe.
petey williams vs james storm, OK match but james storm is doing fantastic as a heel, he's 1 of the few heels that is 100% over in the impact zone, no duel chants here fellas. i'd say he is more over as a heel than petey is over as a face. there were "kill the cowboy/broke back mountain" and other anti-storm chants throughout the match and maybe 2 short petey chants. afterwards gail kim turns face by kicking storm in the nuts only to get beatdown by old skool jackie(not gayda) who is now with storm. storm while being a typical red neck seem to dig black and asian chicks.
VKM skit runs a little too long with the added christy hemme part, i only wish hemme would've come out much sooner as there was a purpose for her speech, it seems a womens division is coming soon. the 1st part of VKMs promo could've been trimmed way down.
LAX vs 3D, ok match, just when it was starting to get good the shitty ending came about with spike causing the DQ. being the 1st match of the fued i wasn't xpecting a conclusive end to the match. i like both teams but not sure if they match up well. i think LAX works because of the big man/small man dynamic of hernandez/homicide but when facing two guys that are both bigger than hernendez it makes things a little difficult, plus homicide looks so damn tiny in there with all those guys, even with his platform shoes.
joe vs angle 30min ironman match, awesome, i really liked it and a great ending. both guys look very strong coming out of this, angle won the match but it ended with joe in dominant position. my friend i was watching with says he thinks angle will not be able to challenge for the title because his ankle will be injured and joe will steal his title shot. i thought that would be pretty cool as long as christian doesn't drop the title to him.
abyss(C)vs christian vs sting NWA world heavyweight title 3way elimination match. was OK. even though christian didn't win clean he looked strong kicking out of some big moves and winning the gold for a 2nd time, i think he's doing great as the #1 heel on the show. abyss had a great run imo for a transitional champ it doesn't get much better.
Jamal
01-18-2007, 05:28 PM
Good review, pretty much the way I thought this ppv went by reading the spoilers earlier in the week. After see the wwe women put on good matchs the last couple of weeks I'm looking forward to seeing if the TNA ladies can "Go" as well.
Legato
01-18-2007, 05:36 PM
Good review, pretty much the way I thought this ppv went by reading the spoilers earlier in the week. After see the wwe women put on good matchs the last couple of weeks I'm looking forward to seeing if the TNA ladies can "Go" as well.
Especially without having to worry about some perverted old guy commentating the match.
SnowTrooper
01-18-2007, 05:48 PM
I didnt really like the Final Resolution crowd. The Triple Threat for the X-Division belt and Starr vs Shelley were really good matches but the crowd seemed kinda dead.
Jerry Lynn is awesome, I dont know why he ever retired.
I laughed to the point of tears during the introductions of Samolian Joe and Big Fat Oily Guy.
Jamal
01-18-2007, 06:01 PM
Juvi messed Lynn's shoulder up pretty bad with a botched Juvi Driver. Jerry finally healed up last year but it's looks like he was waiting for the right storyline before he started wrestling again.
lboinyamouf4sho
01-19-2007, 02:21 AM
1/18/07
i only caught the end of sting beating on mitchell.
LAX vs 3D, it looks like these guys are getting more comfortable with each other. moody jack steps up to try and fill the gap konnan leaves, noble effort but thems big shoes to fill. i really wish they had let homicide be the one to lay out bubba with the slapjack, due to homicide being so small hernandez has to get in most of the offense against 3D, i would've liked for homicide to get the pin here since it's with a weapon anyways.
abyss wandering lost w/o mitchell was a nice touch. at the end abyss throws a trash can that somehow turns into a basketball and bounces into an old spice comercial.:D
jackie and gail brawl in the back, and the ball is rolling for the womens division.
thankfully short VKM christy hemme segment, a little momentum added to womens divison. maybe they'll bring back that shemale sir. elda and she can kick billy gunns ass.
christian cuts a good promo as usual, angle comes out and spits in his face, CC keeps his cool and says he's hired a consultant. makes it sound like he's talking about joe, hopefuly it's a swerve and it's really steiner. sometime i wish i didn't have internet access:( for some reason we get some RVD chants durring this:confused:
more of sting beating on mitchell.
short nash segment interupted by a great starr/senshi brawl. senshi punched the hell out of that wall. should be a good fued with those 2, nice contrast of styles. looks like leathal and sonjay will be getting xtreme makeovers. i'm thinking sonjay as sabu(sonjbu) and jay leathal as new jack(new jay).
james storm w/mrs. tennesee(jackie) vs lance hoyt, storm/jackie are already doing great heel work before getting to the ring, flipping that kids drink and ripping signs. decent short match. white sox AJ and torborg get involved as does gail kim and petey williams, in the end storm and jackie are on their feet while petey, gail, and hoyt are laid out. white sox AJ was kind enough to give hoyt an autograph before he leaves:evilsmile
AJ vs angle, pretty cool but short. kind of a teaser but we did get a match with an ending. impact ends with rhino saving angle from a christian/tomko/AJ beatdown, AJ and rhino fued continuing, joe saving angle from a christian/tomko beat down, and christian implying joe is on his side instigating some word between joe/angle.
good show.
DWEarhart
01-19-2007, 03:54 PM
Needs more X-Division. You know they're going to get rid of the World X Cup, and that's a shame if it does happen. That's the way it feels like it's going to me.
This PCS skits were funny, Nash has been funny, but it's time for the X-ers to get back to business, so I like where that Senshi (Low-Ki bitches) / Starr (Aries to you, tiger lily) is going.
What's RVD going to use if and when he comes in, his real name? Or does he own the rights to his name? I don't think he does.
Joe needs to chill on the brew if he still hopes to leap, or fit in between the roopes. His schedule isn't going to lighten up any time soon, barring injury, so the beer needs to take a break, unless Joe's moveset is going in a different direction, then screw it. Do whatever.
However, the knee injury isn't going to do him any favors.
I'm looking forward to the return of the Big Bad Booty Daddy. His last TNA run was some of his best stuff since teaming with his bro. TNA found the perfect use for a guy like Scott Steiner, and gave him his best catchphrase.
Whatever it was.
They are going to provide a 2 hour show the Monday Raw is pre-empted by things that pea on furniture and crap in shoes.
Wasn't digging the AJ Styles retcon punch. He looked like a ballerina in those pajamas he wore.
*R.I.P. Bam Bam*
titanfan
01-19-2007, 05:44 PM
What's RVD going to use if and when he comes in, his real name? Or does he own the rights to his name? I don't think he does.
If he doesn't own his name, I don't think it would be much of a stretch for him to legally change his name to Rob Van Dam.
Legato
01-19-2007, 06:10 PM
If he doesn't own his name, I don't think it would be much of a stretch for him to legally change his name to Rob Van Dam.
I heard somewhare that he does own the rights of RVD.
SnowTrooper
01-19-2007, 07:13 PM
I wonder if he owns the rights to his signature pose and signature moves, like Van Daminator and Rolling Thunder.
lboinyamouf4sho
01-20-2007, 12:08 AM
Needs more X-Division. You know they're going to get rid of the World X Cup, and that's a shame if it does happen. That's the way it feels like it's going to me.
last years x cup sucked compared to the previous ones. the only good thing was seeing the CTU boys in action. they need to go back to the old format.
BoosterBronze
01-20-2007, 11:31 AM
last years x cup sucked compared to the previous ones. the only good thing was seeing the CTU boys in action. they need to go back to the old format.
Jack Bauer wrestled last year!?
BoosterBronze
01-20-2007, 11:37 AM
I wonder if he owns the rights to his signature pose and signature moves, like Van Daminator and Rolling Thunder.
Can someone OWN things like poses and moves?
lboinyamouf4sho
01-21-2007, 02:17 AM
Jack Bauer wrestled last year!?
as awesome as that would be, no. CTU= jushin thunder liger, black tiger, minoru tanaka, hiroki goto known in TNA as team japan/NJPW ther are more members in but these are the guys that were brought in.
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