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Sharcque
09-30-2005, 11:43 PM
From comicon:

Liefeld told THE PULSE he hopes to help expand the Teen Titans franchise. He explained, "I originally went over to DC to work on a brand new Titans series, Titans East. We talked at length about all the possibilities of expanding the Titans corner of the DCU. During the Doctor Light arc that Geoff did last spring he included the entire roster of Titan members, everyone from Red Star, Pantha, Bumblebee, Tempest, Wildebeest and so many more. Those are the characters that interest me the most, those so-called secondary characters that have been neglected for so long. Throw in Captain Marvel Jr. and Supergirl and wowza you have a helluva line up. At least that was the prevailing notion throughout our talks. We had talked with a writer, we were inching forward on the project and then Dan Didio called and asked if I'd pinch hit on the regular Titans series over the summer to do some fill-ins. So the idea for me was never to do the regular book but to help expand the franchise. There are those who believe the Titans can carry another series and there are those who don't, when DC decides what they want to do post-Crisis, they know I'm ready to go. Mine and Gail's stint sold really well for DC, we jumped the book to it's highest sales in the last year, so the audience is definitely there for more Titans stuff. In the interim we've discussed some exciting Titan mini-series that I'm mum on, but they're pretty all very tempting."

"I really want to do a Titans East book eventually because those other characters really deserve their share of the spotlight, similar to how they threw Bumblebee, Tempest, Cyborg and Speedy together as Titans East in the fantastic Titans cartoon, the other members could really shine," he continued. "Time will tell if there's an audience for more Titans books. In the meantime I'm booked for the next 18 months at the very least."

A Titans East book would be awsesome!!!!

Paradox
10-01-2005, 12:10 AM
Eh. Sounds to me like wishful thinking on Rob's part combined with some polite nodding as he outlined his idea. I wouldn't expect anything to come out of it.

SUPERECWFAN1
10-01-2005, 12:15 AM
How would the anti-Liefeld brigade handle this ? I mean he's taken heat for his work and all. But having him using his powers to sell his art on a Titans East book and getting this Franchise started would be pretty cool.


I expect someone will come in soon and scream no..... ;)

TheDarkestHorse
10-01-2005, 01:02 AM
NOOO! I'm screaming NOOOOO!

;)

Forsaken_One
10-01-2005, 04:12 AM
Meh, I dropped Teen Titans before the Simone/Liefeld arc simply because Geoff John's writing had gotten dull and lacked any of the things I was interested in. More power to them if they want to bring up another series (in fact I remember something about that from Johns a while back, but that might have been referring to Return of Donna Troy) but I won't be going for it past the first week most likely. Especially if they're going to do what Johns did in the Titans Tomorrow arc and put a bunch of C-list Titans of old in it.

So a bit meh for me.

GabrielleWP
10-01-2005, 05:33 AM
Weeeww get a new idea already! **cough**AvengersWestCoast**cough**

A new team without the titans name maybe, or explore the characters they don't use that much in new books.

GWP

Paul Newell
10-01-2005, 06:12 AM
Weeeww get a new idea already! **cough**AvengersWestCoast**cough**

A new team without the titans name maybe, or explore the characters they don't use that much in new books.

GWP
Teen Titans did the idea first back in the 70's with Titans West.

yenaled
10-01-2005, 07:43 AM
I would like to see a Titans East book... but my god I don't like Liefeld's art.

Altered Ego
10-01-2005, 07:45 AM
His issue has been the weakest of the series so far. I can't even read it. I like Simone but I can't get past the horrible art.
I would like a Titans East but not by him.

bert
10-01-2005, 09:29 AM
Weeeww get a new idea already! **cough**AvengersWestCoast**cough**

A new team without the titans name maybe, or explore the characters they don't use that much in new books.

GWP

as Paul Newell pointed out. . this was another case where DC did it first. .the house of "recycled" ideas did it later, and w/ more noise (tho not necessarily better -- "Master Pandemonium" ?. sheesh), but DC did it first.

protege
10-01-2005, 09:44 AM
I would like to see a Titans East book... but my god I don't like Liefeld's art.
Ditto- I don't think I can stomach Liefeld's art anymore. That reminds me- did part 2 of the Simone/liefeld collaboration come out yet?

estee
10-01-2005, 09:48 AM
Depends on the writer...a good writer can make up for so-so art. I haven't heard of this Dan Didio person.

If they get Gail or somebody of her calibre, even with Rob doing art, I'd consider at least checking it out.

Titan76
10-01-2005, 10:02 AM
Correct me if I'm wrong but the last time DC did a Titans East book not only did it not sell well it also help the Titans franchise go down hill because the Titans can't expand like say the X-men, JSA, or the JLA can, its already been proven. Let's kept it one Titans book and not try the 2 Titans books again.

bert
10-01-2005, 10:09 AM
Correct me if I'm wrong but the last time DC did a Titans East book not only did it not sell well it also help the Titans franchise go down hill because the Titans can't expand like say the X-men, JSA, or the JLA can, its already been proven. Let's kept it one Titans book and not try the 2 Titans books again.


Actually, I *think* you're thinking of "Team Titans" (which was a team from an alternate future), not Titan's West.

I don't think Titan's West ever had thier own book (aloghouh several of them appreared in the fairly recent "Beast Boy" mini). they did appear in a few issues of the main Titans book tho.

As far as "Team Titans" goes. . I liked the book well enough (and I do wish some of the charactes would re-appear (yeah, i know, they all disappeared into oblivion except for Mirage)), but it just wasn't all that well written. I'm guessing that's why it didn't make it (similar to the LSH spin-off "the Wanderers" -- same thing. . not written well enough)

Titan76
10-01-2005, 10:34 AM
Actually, I *think* you're thinking of "Team Titans" (which was a team from an alternate future), not Titan's West.

I don't think Titan's West ever had thier own book (aloghouh several of them appreared in the fairly recent "Beast Boy" mini). they did appear in a few issues of the main Titans book tho.

As far as "Team Titans" goes. . I liked the book well enough (and I do wish some of the charactes would re-appear (yeah, i know, they all disappeared into oblivion except for Mirage)), but it just wasn't all that well written. I'm guessing that's why it didn't make it (similar to the LSH spin-off "the Wanderers" -- same thing. . not written well enough)
No I'm talking about Titans East in the 80's and maybe the 90's(don't know how far it went)when it was with the New Teen Titans,when they were DC's number 1 selling book and trading number 1 spots with the Uncanny X-men. I don't want another Titans book, one is just fine and I am really liking it right now, well as so as Liefeld done with the art duty, I will be reliking it again.

bert
10-01-2005, 11:48 AM
No I'm talking about Titans East in the 80's and maybe the 90's(don't know how far it went)when it was with the New Teen Titans,when they were DC's number 1 selling book and trading number 1 spots with the Uncanny X-men. I don't want another Titans book, one is just fine and I am really liking it right now, well as so as Liefeld done with the art duty, I will be reliking it again.


Hmmm. . .

I suppose I could be mistaken (it DOES happen occasionally) :)

but the only "spin off" book the Titans ever had was "Team Titans"

Now. .there was a point in the 80's where DC introduced a higher priced "Baxter Paper" version of two of thier books : New Teen Titans, and Legion of Superheroes

These books did feature new stories -- at least for a year, until the "regular" titles began reprinting the Baxter series (which at the time were Direct Market only).

It wasn't a spin off team, it was just two books each month (for a year) featuring the Titans we were already following.

Is this what you are talking about?

if so. . it didn't really "prove" that a spin off wouldn't work, because after a year, the original book became "Tales of the New Teen Titans" (at least I think that was the name) and was only doing reprints of the Baxter Book.



as I said, I could be wrong -- and I suppose I could have blocked it from my memory, as I did the "danny chase" and "Supergirl/Green Lantern" eras of Titans. . but I think I'm remembering correctly :)

titanfan
10-01-2005, 12:12 PM
No I'm talking about Titans East in the 80's and maybe the 90's(don't know how far it went)when it was with the New Teen Titans,when they were DC's number 1 selling book and trading number 1 spots with the Uncanny X-men.

Well for a while there were 3 Titans books: Tales of the Teen Titans (new for a year then reprints), The New Titans, and Titans Spotlight.

Tales and NT sold well for awhile, and then Tales went into reprints. The problem with Spotlight was that the quality in some tales were lacking and no one wanted to read a story arc starring Hawk or a 5 part tale starring Jericho.

I'd say that Titans is a stronger franchise than JSA and Green Lantern--both of which are supporting multiple books right now. Technically, Titans already has 2 books if you count Outsiders. Plus a mini-series in Return of Donna Troy. If I had my choice to do another Titans spin-off, it would be "Titans Classified".

I do think Liefield loves the Titans and he would do his best work on the book. Even though I'm not a big fan of his work, I'd give it a try. Could we get Karl Kesel to do the inking? (They worked well on Hawk & Dove)

bert
10-01-2005, 12:36 PM
Well for a while there were 3 Titans books: Tales of the Teen Titans (new for a year then reprints), The New Titans, and Titans Spotlight.



Was Team Titans around too? or was that after Spotlight and Tales were gone?

yeah. .. despite all his flaws (and he has many), I did enjoy Liefeld's original Hawk and Dove mini.. . . . I wouldn't mind seeing him work on those characters more (beyond the current arc w/ Gail)

protege
10-01-2005, 12:44 PM
Depends on the writer...a good writer can make up for so-so art. I haven't heard of this Dan Didio person.

If they get Gail or somebody of her calibre, even with Rob doing art, I'd consider at least checking it out.

You'd think that, but I couldn't get nto the story either; The characters didn't sound natural. What was with the nicknames?

SUPERECWFAN1
10-01-2005, 01:00 PM
As far as "Team Titans" goes. . I liked the book well enough (and I do wish some of the charactes would re-appear (yeah, i know, they all disappeared into oblivion except for Mirage)), but it just wasn't all that well written. I'm guessing that's why it didn't make it (similar to the LSH spin-off "the Wanderers" -- same thing. . not written well enough)


I wonder whatever happened to " The Wanderers " ? I have a DC Direct book where they hype that series and all. I know the reboot in 94 killed them but what was thier deal again? Been awhile for me.

Terra14Jenna14
10-01-2005, 01:08 PM
I am a big fan Of TT & i think that a new book 2 Titans would be a great addition.

Terra14Jenna14
10-01-2005, 01:13 PM
Maybe they should make a New Book about a new team Like ACE, there about kids who get exposure from a metreorite.

Sharcque
10-01-2005, 05:19 PM
I wonder whatever happened to " The Wanderers " ? I have a DC Direct book where they hype that series and all. I know the reboot in 94 killed them but what was thier deal again? Been awhile for me.
Weren't the Wanderers a part of the Legion of Super-Heroes universe?

titanfan
10-01-2005, 05:24 PM
Was Team Titans around too? or was that after Spotlight and Tales were gone?

That was later, when DC was trying to push the Titans and make them big again. New Titans, Deathstroke, and Team Titans were all going on at the same time. (And there were talks for a Hybrid spin-off)

tk421atpost
10-01-2005, 08:25 PM
One could consider Outsiders to be a second Titans book.

SUPERECWFAN1
10-01-2005, 10:48 PM
Weren't the Wanderers a part of the Legion of Super-Heroes universe?


Yeah , Bert detailed that and I read the DC Direct promo when the series happened.

bert
10-02-2005, 10:44 AM
Yeah , Bert detailed that and I read the DC Direct promo when the series happened.


I'll have to dig em out to re-read them Super. .

it's just been too long.

The books had amazing covers, and some nice art, but the writing left a lot to be desired (If I recall).

I think the Wanderers were a spun off group from the Heroes of Lallor. . but I'm not recalling it exactly.

I'm sure Ontir can answer this one. . . .

I'll start another thread


:)

Apathy Boy
10-02-2005, 12:49 PM
Weeeww get a new idea already! **cough**AvengersWestCoast**cough**Can we please have a moratorium on snarky "this company came up with the idea first!" / "this character is a total rip-off of another company's character!" comments? For one thing, these comments are almost never accurate.

And for another, how much originality can you really find in a superhero comic? As much as I love 'em, superhero books are hardly a genre rife with innovation. Any superhero book essentially boils down to one person in tights beating the crap out of another person in tights.

I don't mind if a comic has a familiar premise, so long as it's well-done and puts a slightly different spin on things. It's strange to think we should discard a concept as general as "superhero team with franchises on both coasts" as soon as it's used once. In a book that was cancelled more than 10 years ago, no less.

Apathy Boy
10-02-2005, 12:54 PM
I wonder whatever happened to " The Wanderers " ? I have a DC Direct book where they hype that series and all. I know the reboot in 94 killed them but what was thier deal again? Been awhile for me.Hey, I remember that preview book! I was really hyped up about THE WANDERERS because of it. The write-up was quite intriguing, the promo art was beautiful and the characters looked cool.

Then the series itself came out and ... ugh. The artist who drew those cool preview pieces wasn't actually drawing the book. Not only did the new artist pale in comparison, he totally changed the awesome character designs. I was so disappointed, I never even bothered picking it up.

Captain Jim
10-02-2005, 08:30 PM
Eh, there *may* be room for a second Titans book, if it's done right. But I don't think it would be Titans East, with a bunch of second-tier characters, or with Liefield on the art either, quite frankly. On the other hand, I think there's good reason to agree that Outsiders is already that book.

hondobrode
10-03-2005, 08:24 PM
I think more crossovers between Titans and Outsiders would be a good thing.

I like both books but prefer the Outsiders. I'm hoping Batman and some of the original Outsiders have a merging of old and new Outsiders post IC.