What is the Geekiest X-Men Related Thing You Know? [Archive]

dazzler_slave

09-30-2005, 02:19 PM

Hey all! I was just thinking about what a comic geek I am and how I know more about comics than anything else. I can't remember what I learned in University, but I can tell you that Iceman is into Kate Bush because of one issue of X-Factor where Bobby returned to earth after an extended time in space and was excited to find out that Kate Bush put out a new album while he was gone. This is also the issue where he met Opal Tanaka for the first time.

I know and understand the history and intricacies of the entire Summers Clan.

I know that Misty Knight from the Daughters of the Dragon was briefly Jean Grey's roommate and that her partner Colleen Wing dated Cyclops briefly after Jean died.

So my question is this: How many other geeks like me are there out there? Share with me your most obscure X-Men trivia and prove to me I'm not alone in this lonely world of X-Men fanaticism.

C'Mon DDM! Step up to the plate and show us that you are the master! :D

Tre Styles

09-30-2005, 02:29 PM

dazzler_slave

09-30-2005, 02:53 PM

I know which two X-Men got into a Geneoshan barfight dressed up as Magistrates.....
(Wolverine/Rogue)
I know what major Everett Thomas aka "Synch" wanted to major in college....
(political science)
I know what types of movies Scott Summers likes.....
(old)

Okay, you stumped me. I knew the first and third, but I totally forgot what Synch wanted to major in! I bow before your knowledge! :)

DDM

09-30-2005, 03:10 PM

I know which two X-Men got into a Geneoshan barfight dressed up as Magistrates.....
(Wolverine/Rogue)

Technically, Carol Danvers got the bar fight. Rogue was deeply withdrawn in her own subconscious memory.

jadegiant77

09-30-2005, 03:30 PM

Professor Xadmitted to loving Jean waaaaaaaaaaay back in Uncanny X-Men# 3(i think)

Chuck's middle name is Francis.

Iceman used to be an accountant.

dazzler_slave

09-30-2005, 03:38 PM

Technically, Carol Danvers got the bar fight. Rogue was deeply withdrawn in her own subconscious memory.

And we have a winner! I knew DDM wouldn't disappoint!

dazzler_slave

09-30-2005, 03:39 PM

Professor Xadmitted to loving Jean waaaaaaaaaaay back in Uncanny X-Men# 3(i think)

Chuck's middle name is Francis.

Iceman used to be an accountant.

That seems so odd, considering Bobby's character. He is always written as a little dumb and yet he was an accountant so he must be pretty smart.

Atomic Mongoose

09-30-2005, 04:05 PM

I know that Polaris is technically considered a mutate, since her abilities were triggered through outside experimentation.

I know that Storm may have been worshipped as a Goddess and "discovered" by Professor X in Africa, but she is an American-born citizen.

I know that before Callisto became ugly in appearance and a Morlock, she was a beautiful model.

I know that Locus underwent an unexplained transformation from caucasian woman to black woman.

ocelotrevs

09-30-2005, 04:13 PM

Nightcrawler and Wolverine get along so well due to their mutual love of beer

Jake V

09-30-2005, 04:17 PM

For some reason, I know about storylines that never happened. Like the idea that Sinister was supposed to be the projection of what a child thought a supervillain should look like... Or an idea that would have made Apocalypse the third Summers brother.

That might actually be worse than knowing a lot of in continuity information.

fishtaco

09-30-2005, 04:18 PM

Cyke was a radio operator.

Mystique listens to Miles Davis

Rogue listens to Rolling Stones

Jubilee took up a brief acting career

Storm's power is psionic in nature.

Thanks to Storm, the temperature at Scott and Jean's wedding was 70 degrees F.

Mystique's power is psionic in nature.

Synch is from St. Louis

Shadowcat and Cypher are banned from just about every arcade in New York

Magneto gets seasick when travelling by boat.

Banshee can play the piano.

Rogue can play the blues guitar

Rachel Summers loves orange juice

Multiple Man was a farmer

Professor X had blond hair before he went bald.

Jean Grey listens to Eric Clapton

Emma Frost wears glasses

Juggernaut is a Dazzler fan

Deadpool loves Bea Arthur

Deadpool has a somewhat disturbing crush on the Olsen Twins

Moira MacTaggert started drinking alcohol at age 16.

Nightcrawler loves Pirate movies

Shadowcat used to read Star Wars comics

The original New Mutants (and especially Sunspot's) favorite TV show is Magnum PI

Callisto is from Missouri

Nocturne has a band called the Butt Monkeys

The Blob wears glasses

The Toad presented himself to the Lords Cardinal for membership. He was laughed at.

DDM

09-30-2005, 06:36 PM

I know that Polaris is technically considered a mutate, since her abilities were triggered through outside experimentation.

Lorna Dane was missing a few genetic sequences to activate her mutant powers. Lorna Dane is a latent mutant. Slipstream is also a latent mutant since Sage had to jumpstart his abilities; whereas, Lorna Dane's magnetic powers were jumpstarted by Mesmero's machine. Storm's genetic code was damaged when Forge's gun took away her powers; therefore, Ororo became a latent mutant.

A mutate is someone given powers. Spider-Man, the Fantastic Four, the Savage Kand Mutates are all mutates.

Tre Styles

09-30-2005, 07:15 PM

Technically, Carol Danvers got the bar fight. Rogue was deeply withdrawn in her own subconscious memory.

yah, yah....I knew SOMEone would bring that up.. ;) It's all good though.and psssst, I only remembered because I just read the issue again yesterday...hehehehehe...

Lightbend

09-30-2005, 07:25 PM

Storm was once courted by Loki, when he offered her back her powers via an enchanted hammer.

Beast's hands and feet were exceptionally large even when he was an infant.

Wolverine's attracted to redheads because of his childhood crush, Rose.

The Lucky One

09-30-2005, 09:12 PM

-Madrox and Val Cooper are both big fans of motown.

-Cyclops' favorite movie is Mr. Smith Goes To Washington.

-Contrary to popular belief, Cyke CAN see colors, they're just muted, like sunglasses.

-Illyana used to "read" Playgirl, and Kitty knew about it.

-Evil Madrox once created a dupe with such a distinct personality that it registered as a different mutant on Cerebro.

-Santa Claus is a mutant, and he once turned the Brotherhood of Evil Mutants into action figures.

-Between the codenames "Psyche" and "Mirage," Dani Moonstar was called Spellbinder for exactly one caption box in the X-Men vs. the Micronauts miniseries.

-Professor X has gone evil and tried to kill the X-Men 3 times, not just once.

-Cyclops and Magneto both bagged the same chick, Lee Forrester.

-Wolfsbane has a necklace given to her by legendary Scottish leader Robert the Bruce; he, in turn, has a New Mutants belt.

-Kitty, Rogue, and Dazzler all had the hots for Longshot at once.

-D

Atomic Mongoose

09-30-2005, 09:30 PM

-Illyana used to "read" Playgirl, and Kitty knew about it.

LOL Oh... my... God. Are you serious??? I'm assuming this was during The New Mutants days, back in the 1980's??? I can see a "cutting edge" writer MAYBE getting away with such overt sexuality in one of today's X-titles, but I'm shocked that Illyana's "Playgirl hobby" made it into the books way back then. I'm not a prude or anything, it's just that I've looked through a few Playgirl mags in my day, and they're actually marketed more towards gay men. And y'all know how "artistic and classy" doesn't quite sum up gay porn. I mean, basically, the statement that tidbit made was "Illyana, and underage child, masturbates to pornography". I know it's not unheard of, but I guess given the context and the fact that it was in an X-title just shocks me. Oh, Illyana... you dirty lil' hussy... I can never look at you in the same "innocent little girl" way again.

The Lucky One

09-30-2005, 11:21 PM

I hear ya... I was pretty shocked at it too. It was in the last issue of the Nightcrawler mini- Kurt says something about Illyana's innocence, and Kitty responds with "You should see the Playgirl collection under her bed." Unreal.
:eek:

-D

TJ Shoun

10-01-2005, 12:48 AM

Byrne taught me in the 80's that Superman has a paperthin protective aura that prevents his costume from getting shredded in hardcore throwdowns.

I never forgot although many writers seem to have. :)

wrong forum, right?

Okay, Jean Grey's dad is a professor.

I much geekier with less vodka in my system.

TheDarkestHorse

10-01-2005, 04:14 AM

I know that in X-Men movie continuity, Sabretooth isn't really dead ( at least if you count comic tie-ins as continuity.)

I know that Archangel's steel wings could get burnt, and it hurt him.

I know that in the old cartoon 'Pryde of The X-Men' Wolverine had an aussie accent.

I know that not only will Wolverine attack bad guys unprovoked, he'll attack Professor X's hologram generator just for making little mini bad guy holograms (after clearly stating that he KNOWS they're holograms. He's really quite intense).

Not surprisingly, I probably don't know anything you guys don't. Damn my lack of disposable income!

spoon_jenkins

10-01-2005, 07:28 AM

Alex Summers graduated from Landon College.

Jean Grey briefly attended Metro College.

John Grey (Jean's dad) taught history at Bard College.

Charles Xavier was beaten by students in a psychology class he taught at Columbia University.

Kurt Wagner had a pet miniature pteradactyl named Colonel Pteradactylee who only appeared (as far as I know) on one page of X-Men Special Edition #1 (an obscure 1980s comic that reprinted the main story from Giant-Size X-Men #1).

DDM

10-01-2005, 08:48 AM

Only Magneto knows of Rachel Summers life as a mutant Hound.

Rachel's middle name is Anne

The Shadow King is responsible for the anti-mutant hatred which caused all superhumans to eventually to be exterminated in concentration camps or killed in Rachel's timeline.

Rachel's facial tattoos were purposely put upon her face to mark her as a property of the US government; however, Rachel often conceals her facial tattoos with her telepathy even if she is knocked unconscious.

Rachel's time travel powers is not a separate power, but it is a combination of her telepathy & telekinesis combined with her connection to the Phoenix Force which gives her the mutant ability to manipulate space & time.

Rachel's memories were scrambled by the US government (hound) & Spiral.

Rachel Summers is unique even in the multiverse since there are no Phoenix analogues when Excalibur traveled in the "Cross Time Caper."

DDM

10-01-2005, 10:07 AM

Elizabeth Braddock is the twin sister of Brian Braddock, Captain Britain. Elisabeth & Briain are 10 years younger than their older brother, Jamie Braddock.

Elisabeth is often called Betsy.

Betsy Braddock originally had blonde hair & no superhuman powers; however, Alan Moore revamped Betsy with purple hair & gave her mutant psi-powers such as telepathy & limited precognition powers.

Betsy once had a successful modeling career.

Betsy killed Brion Braddok, Kaptain Briton, who attempted to rape Betsy; she literally friend his brain leaving very little resemblance to once was a human head. Earth 616's Brian Braddock was trapped on an alternate Earth ruled by the sadistic Mastrex Opal Lun Sat-Yr-9, obsessed with her own Kaptain Briton.

Betsy served as Captain Britain II for a month before she was mortally wounded by Slaymaster. Her eyes were gouged out by the villain & almost killed her.

Betsy's bionic eyes were cameras which telegraphed every thought & everything she saw through her eyes to Mojo World. Betsy's bionic eyes were created by Mojo himself, bonded to Mojo's soul.

Mojo & Spiral gave Betsy the codename "Psylocke."

Betsy's telepathic signature is often manifested as a purple butterfly with eyes.

Betsy is a psycho-blaster, able to project pure telepathic force to dent solid steel. Later, her psycho-blaster powers were changed into a psychic knife.

Originally, when Spiral & Mojo changed Betsy's body from Anglo-Saxon to Asian, it was Psylocke's original body with her bionic eyes intact.

Betsy is a true warrior; which contrasts with Brian's reluctance to be Captain Britain.

Although Psylocke's first American appearance is The New Mutants Annual #2, she first appeared in Marvel UK's Captain Britain #8 (first series).

xakko

10-01-2005, 10:12 AM

Rachel Summers is unique even in the multiverse since there are no Phoenix analogues when Excalibur traveled in the "Cross Time Caper."
And yet there were versions of Rachel that gave birth to Hyperstorm, and summoned the Norse Gods in an Exiles story.

The Dosadi Experiment

10-01-2005, 10:31 AM

Psylocke's telepathic butterfly-effect is her deliberate choice of "telepathic-travel", it's easier for her to use the butterfly than to have an astral projection that is of her human form. The butterfly takes less effort. She used it first during the Mutant Massacra to assist the X-men from the mansion.

When Doom tried to court Ororo and was unsuccesful, it wasn't because Ororo hated him right off the bat, she had some respect for him, but he blew his chances when he encapsulated her, making her a living statue, he then had a robot version of Storm walking around, which he used as a slave-girl, ordering her around.

Colossus doesn't think smut and pornography are expressions of Freedom of Speech, he finds the fundamental right to be so valuable that it should be used with care and respect. And displaying smut and porn outside a carnival or amusement park, isn't care nor respect.

Psylocke did Playboy.

DDM

10-01-2005, 04:07 PM

And yet there were versions of Rachel that gave birth to Hyperstorm, and summoned the Norse Gods in an Exiles story.

Simply a plot device to Hyperstorm to exist. The editors ignored Excalibur.

Tommy

10-01-2005, 04:18 PM

Simply a plot device to Hyperstorm to exist. The editors ignored Excalibur.
Well that does not quite make sense since according to Excaliber time travel results in parallel universes. Rachel Summers time travels all the time so their should be lots of different universes with her in them. Not to mention all of Cable's time travels that would clearly affect her.

Tommy

10-01-2005, 04:20 PM

When Doom tried to court Ororo and was unsuccesful, it wasn't because Ororo hated him right off the bat, she had some respect for him, but he blew his chances when he encapsulated her, making her a living statue, he then had a robot version of Storm walking around, which he used as a slave-girl, ordering her around.
Here is something Geeky I know: That was a Doombot as revealed in FF 258.

DDM

10-01-2005, 04:31 PM

Well that does not quite make sense since according to Excaliber time travel results in parallel universes. Rachel Summers time travels all the time so their should be lots of different universes with her in them. Not to mention all of Cable's time travels that would clearly affect her.

As shown in the White Hot Room in Uncanny X-Men #463, Rachel Summers has no cross time analogues. She is unique. Claremont may make this truth more clear with "Grey's End."

Tommy

10-01-2005, 04:42 PM

As shown in the White Hot Room in Uncanny X-Men #463, Rachel Summers has no cross time analogues. She is unique. Claremont may make this truth more clear with "Grey's End."
Yes, but that does not gel with Excaliber's time travel rules. Every time she traveled to and from the future she should have created totaly seperate universes. I am not sure if Cable's time travel worked that way or not. If it does then he should have created multipal Rachel Summers. Bishop's time travel DOES work that way and his time travel back would have created an alternate Rachel Summers.

Claremont was just ignoring rules about time travel he helped create.

xakko

10-01-2005, 04:52 PM

Well that does not quite make sense since according to Excaliber time travel results in parallel universes. Rachel Summers time travels all the time so their should be lots of different universes with her in them. Not to mention all of Cable's time travels that would clearly affect her.
I think I like uncannyxmen.net's expanation for this- the Rachel Summers who was projected back in time is unique in the multiverse. The ones who didn't exist in other multiverse, but are clearly not alive yet in current continuity, and thus would not have cross-time (really, cross timeline) counterparts.

Gingold

10-01-2005, 05:07 PM

Stonewall's favorite writer was James Joyce

Pyro thought Joyce was "gibberish"

Sam Guthrie is (unfortunately) a Yankees fan

He is because his father's favorite player was Mickey Mantle and he's carrying on the tradition

Carol Danvers is (fortunately) a Red Sox fan

But the geekiest thing I can think of is that I knew almost everything that's been posted so far...

Atomic Mongoose

10-01-2005, 05:25 PM

Risque (the supporting character from 90's era X-Force; member of X-Corp. Hong Kong) was originally intended to be a member of The Clan Askani.

Holocaust was originally set to debut in the 616 Universe, as "Nemesis". His appearance was pushed back to take place in the Age of Apocalypse, after which he transferred over to the 616 reality.

Abyss' first appearance in the 616 universe was not in Chuck Austen's "The Draco" story arc. He first appeared as (seemingly) much older than in his Draco appearance, in an issue of Cable. He was introduced as a Genoshan mutATE infected with the Legacy Virus.

fishtaco

10-01-2005, 05:27 PM

The Shadow King is responsible for the anti-mutant hatred which caused all superhumans to eventually to be exterminated in concentration camps or killed in Rachel's timeline.whoa!! That fits great. What issue was that established in?
Only Magneto knows of Rachel Summers life as a mutant Hound.That can't be right. Kitty knows, and so does the rest of the original Excaliburr team. And when did Magneto learn, anyway?

DDM

10-01-2005, 06:08 PM

whoa!! That fits great. What issue was that established in?

Excalibur #21-22

Mastermind was seducing Jean Grey to become his Shadow Queen; in this reality, Jean Grey did not become Phoenix. The Shadow King had already infiltrated & taken over the Hellfire Club. However, Rachel says in her timeline the Shadow King caused much of the mutant hatred which brought about the destruction of her world.

That can't be right. Kitty knows, and so does the rest of the original Excaliburr team. And when did Magneto learn, anyway?

Uncanny X-Men #196

Kitty may have learned later, but Claremont has only made it clear that only Magneto know's Rachel's secret life as a Hound.

DDM

10-01-2005, 06:09 PM

Carol Danvers brother died in the Vietnam War.

fishtaco

10-01-2005, 07:00 PM

Excalibur #21-22

Mastermind was seducing Jean Grey to become his Shadow Queen; in this reality, Jean Grey did not become Phoenix. The Shadow King had already infiltrated & taken over the Hellfire Club. However, Rachel says in her timeline the Shadow King caused much of the mutant hatred which brought about the destruction of her world. Thanks.

Uncanny X-Men #196

Kitty may have learned later, but Claremont has only made it clear that only Magneto know's Rachel's secret life as a Hound.Kitty was also there when Rachel transformed into her hound incarnation when she nearly killed the guy that almost killed Kitty. I'm sure Magneto had a talk with Xavier about it, since Xavier was acting as her psychologist (Uncanny X-Men 188). I'm sure she told the rest of the X-Men too, but we just never got to see it. And Storm probably knows now that she sorta merged with Rachel temporarily in Uncanny X-Men 459.

Alan2099

10-01-2005, 07:13 PM

Ryan K

10-01-2005, 07:30 PM

I can explain the whole M is Penance, Penance is M, M-Emplate-Mplate stuff better than I care to admit.

Same with the whole Summer's family tree.

And I know pretty much any obsucre fact you can think of about Jubilee.

Tommy

10-01-2005, 07:48 PM

Almost always. However there are a few people that have figured out ways to time travel without creating new realities.

Kang and Dr. Doom for instance.
As have Reed and Tony Stark.

Actualy little known fact Reed, Doom and such have time machines for creating alternate timelines and ones for rewritting history!

nubly

10-01-2005, 07:58 PM

jubilee (jubilation lee) is the second character in the MU to use this code name

emma frost is the second white queen of the inner circle

the dark riders are inhumans, not mutants

power pack's energizer was an honorary x-men

cannonball's middle name is zachary

wolverine has an asian fetish (ok it has never been mentioned before but...)

I hear ya... I was pretty shocked at it too. It was in the last issue of the Nightcrawler mini- Kurt says something about Illyana's innocence, and Kitty responds with "You should see the Playgirl collection under her bed." Unreal.
:eek:

-D
what was kurt doing checking under her bed?

The Lucky One

10-01-2005, 09:31 PM

what was kurt doing checking under her bed?

Well... he wasn't. Kitty said, "You should see the Playgirl collection under her bed." Who, as her roommate, would presumably know.

Sam Guthrie is (unfortunately) a Yankees fan

Carol Danvers is (fortunately) a Red Sox fan

Boo! Get that blasphemous talk out of here. Here's a nickel, buy a better team to root for. (And when you find one, share it with my future father- and brother-in-law. Bah, Boston.)

(Aside from which, if you live in Philly, how are you not a Phils fan?)
;)

Pyro was a bestselling novelist who turned to crime mostly out of boredom.

-D

nubly

10-01-2005, 09:39 PM

Well... he wasn't. Kitty said, "You should see the Playgirl collection under her bed." Who, as her roommate, would presumably know.

heh. guess i should pay attention to what i read

Gingold

10-02-2005, 09:01 AM

Boo! Get that blasphemous talk out of here. Here's a nickel, buy a better team to root for. (And when you find one, share it with my future father- and brother-in-law. Bah, Boston.)

(Aside from which, if you live in Philly, how are you not a Phils fan?)
;)
-D

I live in Philly now. I grew up in Mass.

I like the Phils just fine- the wife and I are season ticket holders actually- but my primary loyalty is to the World Champs.

DDM

10-02-2005, 09:13 AM

Yes, but that does not gel with Excaliber's time travel rules. Every time she traveled to and from the future she should have created totaly seperate universes. I am not sure if Cable's time travel worked that way or not. If it does then he should have created multipal Rachel Summers. Bishop's time travel DOES work that way and his time travel back would have created an alternate Rachel Summers.

Claremont was just ignoring rules about time travel he helped create.

In every reality Excalibur visited during the "Cross Time Caper" (Excalibur #12-24), there is no other Rachel Summers, Phoenix. Chris Claremont is saying that Rachel is unique in even in the multiverse. Since Rachel is bound to Phoenix, she is unique. There is only one Phoenix in the entire multiverse. And she is Rachel Summers. Claremont is emphasing this idea when no cross time analogues of Rachel is shown in Uncanny X-Men #463--only her past incarnations.

An alternate reality is created when someone travels to his or past then changes something. For instance, when Ben Grimm traveled into the past, he created an alternate reality in which he did not become the Thing in Marvel Two-in-One #50.

Rachel is not covered by the rule. Why? Rachel already traveled to an alternate Earth to the mainstream Marvel Universe where Jean Grey, Phoenix, died. In her reality, Phoenix lived & gave birth to Rachel. Furthermore, Senator Robert Kelly was murdered in her timeline, but in this one Kelly is responsible for the anti-mutant hatred. Rachel's timeline divergence is when Phoenix does not die as she did in Uncanny X-Men #137. Phoenix: The Untold Story #1 is Rachel's origin.

nubly

10-02-2005, 10:05 AM

fishtaco

10-02-2005, 12:30 PM

In every reality Excalibur visited during the "Cross Time Caper" (Excalibur #12-24), there is no other Rachel Summers, Phoenix. Chris Claremont is saying that Rachel is unique in even in the multiverse. Since Rachel is bound to Phoenix, she is unique. There is only one Phoenix in the entire multiverse. And she is Rachel Summers. Claremont is emphasing this idea when no cross time analogues of Rachel is shown in Uncanny X-Men #463--only her past incarnations.

An alternate reality is created when someone travels to his or past then changes something. For instance, when Ben Grimm traveled into the past, he created an alternate reality in which he did not become the Thing in Marvel Two-in-One #50.

Rachel is not covered by the rule. Why? Rachel already traveled to an alternate Earth to the mainstream Marvel Universe where Jean Grey, Phoenix, died. In her reality, Phoenix lived & gave birth to Rachel. Furthermore, Senator Robert Kelly was murdered in her timeline, but in this one Kelly is responsible for the anti-mutant hatred. Rachel's timeline divergence is when Phoenix does not die as she did in Uncanny X-Men #137. Phoenix: The Untold Story #1 is Rachel's origin.
Phoenix: The Untold story does not tell Rachel's origin, as Rachel is not in it and Phoenix: The Untold Story is not canon.

DDM

10-02-2005, 12:33 PM

Phoenix: The Untold story does not tell Rachel's origin, as Rachel is not in it and Phoenix: The Untold Story is not canon.

Phoenix: The Untold Story #1 is where Rachel's reality diverges from the mainstream Marvel Universe. It is indeed part of Rachel's origin. The editors said so in one of the letter pages from Uncanny X-Men #184-209. I think it may have been Uncanny X-Men #199 letters page. I might be wrong though. It's been awhile.

Tommy

10-02-2005, 12:42 PM

There is only one Phoenix in the entire multiverse. And she is Rachel Summers.
I would really really like that to be true. Sadly Chris Claremont himself is responsible for the Phoenix corps that Morrison latter picked up on.

An alternate reality is created when someone travels to his or past then changes something. For instance, when Ben Grimm traveled into the past, he created an alternate reality in which he did not become the Thing in Marvel Two-in-One #50.
Hence why Cable, Bishop, Rachel herself, The Fantastic Four, Dr. Doom, Kang, Iron Man time traveling would create alternate universes with alternate Rachel Summers.

Rachel is not covered by the rule. Why? Rachel already traveled to an alternate Earth to the mainstream Marvel Universe where Jean Grey, Phoenix, died. In her reality, Phoenix lived & gave birth to Rachel. Furthermore, Senator Robert Kelly was murdered in her timeline, but in this one Kelly is responsible for the anti-mutant hatred. Rachel's timeline divergence is when Phoenix does not die as she did in Uncanny X-Men #137. Phoenix: The Untold Story #1 is Rachel's origin.

Timeline divergence from the 616 universe after Rachel arrived in it would make copies of her. It is just impossible to simultaneously claim time line divergence plus there being only one Rachel Summers in all creation.

Fede

10-02-2005, 03:12 PM

I can explain the whole M is Penance, Penance is M, M-Emplate-Mplate stuff better than I care to admit.

i never understood that mess :(

emma frost second name is "grace" :rolleyes:

Kirayoshi

10-02-2005, 04:41 PM

Kitty Pryde is a Cubs fan.

Kitty is fluent in Russian, German, Japanese and Shi'ar. She invented a fairy-tale for Illyana completely in Russian.

Lockheed openly opposed Kitty's relationship with Pete Wisdom, but has indicated approval of her getting back together with Colossus.

fishtaco

10-02-2005, 05:00 PM

I would really really like that to be true. Sadly Chris Claremont himself is responsible for the Phoenix corps that Morrison latter picked up on.The people in the Phoenix Corps are just dead people who have manifested the Phoenix Force. That does not mean that they are all Rachel. Quentin Quire is certainly not Rachel (and thank god, at that) ;)

kloudsurfer

10-03-2005, 01:15 AM

Wow, i never knew Kitty was so cool and had such a big history. She was already one of my favourite characters, but now shes on the top of the list!

Anymore facts on Kitty?

Tommy

10-03-2005, 01:20 AM

The people in the Phoenix Corps are just dead people who have manifested the Phoenix Force. That does not mean that they are all Rachel. Quentin Quire is certainly not Rachel (and thank god, at that) ;)
I did not say that. I said that there was more than one Pheonix.

Tennoarashi

10-03-2005, 07:24 AM

All of the X-Men present at the time of Illyana being a child at the mansion speak fluent Russian, as Proffy. X taught it to them through telepathy.

Proffessor X also taught Illyana English this way, although she was sleeping at the time.

DDM

10-03-2005, 09:17 AM

Tennoarashi

10-03-2005, 09:21 AM

Since Xavier taught Illyana English telepathically, Illyana does not have a Russian accent.
Is that true for Piotr, too?

And by extension, Ororo and Kurt?

Sabre

10-03-2005, 11:18 AM

Pyro was a bestselling novelist who turned to crime mostly out of boredom.

Well, we don't really know what spurred him to become a criminal, but you'll note that he seems to have gotten his start in pro-mutant terrorism, not petty crime or anything. He may have been bored, but his more hard-assed rhetoric from those early days, plus unwavering loyalty to Mystique, have always suggested to me that he got into the costumed scene for ideological reasons. He never indicated he'd been bored with his life.

He was also a foreign correspondent in Asia before joining the Brotherhood, and published at least one book whilst in Freedom Force.

Super Sabre's son fought in Vietnam.

Blob is approximately 40, and was school friends with that Chef Boyardee knockoff helped by Stacy X.

Avalanche likes gardening, and somebody (presumably him) had a nice vegetable garden in Freedom Force's backyard, complete with little signs and all.

Freedom Force once held a fake trial in order to draw in some mutant terrorists: Mystique impersonated Quicksilver (who was on trial), Pyro was the defence lawyer, Stonewall was the prosecutor, and Blob was the judge(!). Stonewall was uncharacteristically stupid, and seemed to know very little about law...later on, when he and Pyro were having that conversation about James Joyce someone already mentioned, Pyro teased him by calling him a lawyer. So either Stonewall really was a lawyer and was on crack or something in that courtroom, or maybe Pyro was jokingly referring to that silly trial.

I have too much geeky trivia about these guys.

Tennoarashi

10-03-2005, 11:22 AM

Can you tell me what Pyro's three sizes are?

I'd like to know. Personally.

Sabre

10-03-2005, 11:33 AM

Can you tell me what Pyro's three sizes are?

I'd like to know. Personally.

You're confusing and frightening me :confused: :eek:

DDM

10-03-2005, 11:35 AM

Is that true for Piotr, too?

And by extension, Ororo and Kurt?

No, Colossus does have a Russian accent. Illyana is a special case because she practically grew up in America; however, she spent her formative years in Limbo, being raised by Belasco & Storm.

Tennoarashi

10-03-2005, 11:51 AM

No, Colossus does have a Russian accent. Illyana is a special case because she practically grew up in America; however, she spent her formative years in Limbo, being raised by Belasco & Storm.Ah~, I see. Thank you for the clarification~.

You're confusing and frightening me :confused: :eek:That's the plan, Lia. Bwahaha.

Or is it?

Hmmm.... What else is geeky...
Oh. Apparently there was supposed to be a storyline early on involving Magneto, where he would use the magnetic poles or such to tilt the axis of the world so it's weather went insane. Ororo fixed it, but the strain was too much and she died.

I think it went something like that.

Sabre

10-03-2005, 12:11 PM

That's the plan, Lia. Bwahaha.

Or is it?

You are a bad man :p

Geekery:
Blob wears reading glasses and once claimed to have a shoe size of "16 and a 1/2 triple FFF!"

I don't know if that shoe size even exists...

The Lucky One

10-03-2005, 01:51 PM

I don't know if that shoe size even exists...

My college swim coach -- a 6'2" muscular Italian guy who could probably go 15 rounds with anyone short of God Almighty -- wore size 16 shoes.

Oh, and Wolverine was originally intended to be not a mutant human, but an actual mutated wolverine. Ewwww. Also, a (quickly rejected) story idea had him butchering Kitty Pryde when she said hello to him in the morning, then going quietly back to his breakfast without even realizing what he'd done, to show how crazy he was.

-D

Tre Styles

10-03-2005, 04:23 PM

Cable: Nathan Dayspring Aksani'son Winters Summers used to be a lawyer, and also once fought with the godfather of Night Thrasher in a war......

DDM

10-03-2005, 05:50 PM

Charles Xavier used to be very active in high school sports, but stopped playing them because he believed it was unethical due to his nascent telepathy. Xavier's hair was blonde as child before he was bald as an adult.

Xavier's first love is Moira MacTaggert. However, Moira quickly ended their relationship to marry Joe MacTaggert (probably due to her being pregnant, with Kevin MacTaggert, Proteus, from the rape). As a result, Xavier traveled the world where he met Amahl Farouk, the Shadow King which inspired him to finally open Xavier's School for Gifted Youngsters.

Ontir

10-03-2005, 06:43 PM

It's not X-Men, but it's the geekiest!

Spock's bloodtype is T-. A guy I know, who we call "Braindump," won a radio contest with that knowledge, and I've never forgotten it!

Christopher O

10-03-2005, 07:00 PM

My college swim coach -- a 6'2" muscular Italian guy who could probably go 15 rounds with anyone short of God Almighty -- wore size 16 shoes.-D
One of my best friends wears size 18. His feet are outrageous. You should see his pair of high heels. Scary.

Anyway, many people here know much geekier things than I do. I don't know all the obscurities. Sue me. :p

Mideon

10-03-2005, 08:07 PM

I dunno if this has breen brought up, but it's by far the nerdiest thing I know.

The song at Scott and Jean's wedding was One by U2.

Kirayoshi

10-03-2005, 08:18 PM

Wow, i never knew Kitty was so cool and had such a big history. She was already one of my favourite characters, but now shes on the top of the list!

Anymore facts on Kitty?
Well, in a time-travel story arc, she once saved the life of a teen-aged Queen Elizabeth and hooked up briefly with a dashing RAF pilot. She and Rachel also encountered Logan during their tour of England during the Blitz. So chronologically speaking, Logan first met Kitty and Rachel before he ever met any other members of the X-Men!

xakko

10-03-2005, 08:35 PM

Well, in a time-travel story arc, she once saved the life of a teen-aged Queen Elizabeth and hooked up briefly with a dashing RAF pilot. She and Rachel also encountered Logan during their tour of England during the Blitz. So chronologically speaking, Logan first met Kitty and Rachel before he ever met any other members of the X-Men!
That depends on whether or not Mystique becomes a part of the X-men, doesn't it? Since it was established that he already knew her, er, him.

Schellenberg

10-03-2005, 08:57 PM

Alan Davis based his rendition of Kitty Pryde on a young Katharine Hepburn.

Kirayoshi

10-03-2005, 11:17 PM

That depends on whether or not Mystique becomes a part of the X-men, doesn't it? Since it was established that he already knew her, er, him.I'm only going with established team members, of which Mystique currently isn't. They may have voted her in, but she bugged out before hearing the results of the vote.

Kirayoshi

10-03-2005, 11:35 PM

Is that true for Piotr, too?

And by extension, Ororo and Kurt?
If Piotr has an accent it is very light. Usually only demonstrated in his occasional use of Russian words; "boshe moi", "tovarisch" and of course "Katya". My current pet peeve regarding X-Men fanfic involves stories in which Piotr talks like Boris Badenov.

Ororo was actually born in the States, but her family moved to Africa before her parents died.

Kurt doesn't have a discernable accent, but this is largely because, apart from Xavier's telepathic language implants, Kurt learned a great deal of English from watching classic movies, a long-time passion of his. So if he does have an accent, it's more like Humphrey Bogart or Errol Flynn.

Of course, Rogue still has that Southern belle drawl.

UncannyAsianGirl

10-03-2005, 11:54 PM

And a partial law degree.

I'd love to see Rogue, She Hulk, and Daredevil duke it out in court, or work a case together. If things got really rowdy, would the poor, honorable judge be able to yell, "order in the court!"? XD

Aside from being a mutant, Rogue also possesses some genes of the Kree and Skrull alien races. So she's a skreetant. (Made-up word comprised of the amalgation of the words skrull, kree, and mutant.)

Mystique is a fan of Oscar Wilde, and in her earliest appearance (chronocogically, not comic-wise) posed as a male detective when she first met Irene Adler.

Awww... you beat me to saying Nightcrawler was a die-hard Erroyl Flynn fan. =P

All right, so they're mostly non-geeky facts, but at least I used geeky words. ~_^

Alpha to Omega

10-04-2005, 12:49 AM

Simply a plot device to Hyperstorm to exist. The editors ignored Excalibur.

No it's because Claremont didn't have any of the Excalibur members wonder if Rachel was a baby in any of the dimensions they visited since that dimension wouldn't have a full-grown Rachel unless she traveled back in time. God Claremont wrote most of Excalibur as idiots thorughout that arc.

Alpha to Omega

10-04-2005, 01:02 AM

Cable has the latent ability to time-travel.

Legion may have raped his own mother when he went back in time.

Tommy

10-04-2005, 01:21 AM

Nightcrawler might have two... of something.

UncannyAsianGirl

10-04-2005, 01:53 AM

That was a joke by Austen, and you know it! XD

... Or maybe you don't? *Gasp*

fishtaco

10-04-2005, 01:24 PM

No it's because Claremont didn't have any of the Excalibur members wonder if Rachel was a baby in any of the dimensions they visited since that dimension wouldn't have a full-grown Rachel unless she traveled back in time. God Claremont wrote most of Excalibur as idiots thorughout that arc.In the Cross-Time Caper, Excalibur traveled to different realities, but not to alternate pasts where Rachel would be much younger as a baby. None of the characters in Excalibur were idiots, and neither was the writer.

The editors indeed ignored Excalibur for Hyperstorm.

Alpha to Omega

10-04-2005, 09:53 PM

In the Cross-Time Caper, Excalibur traveled to different realities, but not to alternate pasts where Rachel would be much younger as a baby. None of the characters in Excalibur were idiots, and neither was the writer.

The editors indeed ignored Excalibur for Hyperstorm.

In the alternate dimensions Rachel could have not had to travel back in time because it wasn't DOFP so she wouldn't be in the present except as a baby. Why Excalibur would think that all Rachel's had to travel back in time is the question.

Lee in Limbo

02-12-2006, 08:30 PM

Alan Davis based his rendition of Kitty Pryde on a young Katharine Hepburn.And that works for me.

TimGunn

02-12-2006, 08:54 PM

Nightcrawler has the ability to blend into the shadows.

Everyone probably knew that one.

rilokyle

02-12-2006, 09:02 PM

-Wolverine was looking at Penthouse Magazine in Uncanny X-men #129 (Kitty's first issue!).

-Monet St. Croix has like 3 middle names, one being Yvette.

-Maddelyne Pryor's middle name was Jennifer.

-The font style of Uncanny X-Men on the covers changed to the one we're most used to in issue #50 (which was the debut of Polaris).

-Kitty Pryde is from Deerfield, IL: a suburb of Chicago.

-Penance was originally supposed to be a Yugoslavian refugee, but with Lobdell off the title, it was changed to being Monet under a spell by Emplate.

Unkillable Cat

02-13-2006, 05:01 AM

Originally, when Spiral & Mojo changed Betsy's body from Anglo-Saxon to Asian, it was Psylocke's original body with her bionic eyes intact.

Wasn't it the Siege Perilous that made Kwannon and Psylocke switch their bodies?

The only geeky thing I can remember right now is who was chronologically the first mutant to be infected by the Legacy virus: Illiyana.

FunkyGreenJerusalem

02-13-2006, 05:10 AM

What is the Geekiest X-Men Related Thing You Know?

Mattbib.

...

90'sCartoonMan

02-13-2006, 11:56 AM

Iceman has a subscription to National Geographic.

And also, I believe, Iceman was the first X-Man to have a significant role in a non-comic book medium (in Spider-Man and His Amazing Friends). I could be wrong about that, but I know it pre-dates any of the two or three X-Men cartoons as well as the movies.

Kirayoshi

02-13-2006, 12:50 PM

How's this for geeky?

Nightcrawler used to have a pet baby pterodactyl that he kept in a birdcage. He named the critter Pterodactyl Lee, and Lee appeared in Special Edition X-Men #1(reprint of Giant-Size X-Men #1 plus an original Kitty/Illyana story by Claremont and Cockrum). Kitty showed Illyana the beastie while giving her a tour of the mansion.

fireball87o

02-13-2006, 03:26 PM

Firestar, along with her on-again off-again boyfriend Bobby Drake, was a card carrying member of the X-Men...in Spiderman and his Amazing Friends.
(x-tra geekout: They even went to the reunion together...where everybody drank...MILK!)

Candy Southern, an often neglected force in the marvel comics world, joined the X-Men team on a rescue mission to the Savage Land. (x-tra geekout: she donned Jean's old green minidress and yellow boots)

Catseye, the Hellion who could transform her shape, intially believed she was a cat who could turn human, rather than the other way around (x-tra geekout: Wolfsbane invited Catseye to join the New Mutants and she almost took her up on the offer, but didn't want to leave her Hellion friends)

The original Thunderbird had the ability to change shape into wilderness animals such as bears and wolves by conjuring up ancient Indian magic...in Spiderman and his Amazing Friends
(x-tra geekout: he appeared in the cartoon years after his death in the comics)

:cool:

Xany Kaos

02-13-2006, 06:08 PM

I know that Kurt is an Errol Flynn fan like woah. And that in X-men Evolution (I know, I know...) he's a big fan of the Beatles and the BareNaked Ladies.

I know that Toad was born in York, not London, which is something a ton of people seem to think after the movie.
...actually, I know a good deal more about Mortie than I care to admit and have something of a drinking game devised for every personality change he gets (my friends, on the other hand, have something of a drinking game devised for every time I mention Toad).

Umm... I know that Sabertooth was originally set to bet Wolverine's father, but then, who doesn't know that.

Bugger, I know I know more thant that...*sigh*

MythicBrawn

02-13-2006, 06:20 PM

How about Sabretooth got his butt kicked by a non-powered Black Cat. This was when he was a lame villain running around Spider-Man titles. He took on other heroes like Iron Fist and also got beat. Also, before it was established that retconned that he was a mutant, his powers were a result of a series of operations. Some doctors thought they could cure him if they could get him back to normal.