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Titan76
09-30-2005, 10:44 AM
Since Ultimate X-Men needs a new writer and me and a lot of others havn't found his third Uncanny run that good, why not let Chris Claremont try and write Ultimate X-Men? At least give him a 12 issue run just to see what he can do, I mean all Ultimate X-men is are old stories(that were mostly written by Claremont) retold in a modern way. He wouldn't have to worry about trying to tie in the other X-titles like Astonshing, Wolverine, X-men, HoM and so on into his book because there is only ONE X-book in this universe and very little tie in's. One of the reasons his first run was so good is because their was only one X-book, uncanny and he control it. Now there was X-factor, the New Mutants, Excalibur, and Wolverine but that came way later, and he was the one who started the New Mutants and Excalibur, so it didn't bother Uncanny too much. I think this would give him a fresh start again and it would let him do what he is mainly doing now, tell old stories in a new way. Plus BKV said that the editor for Ultimate X-Men allowed him to do nearly anything he wanted and this would help Claremont a lot since the editors for Uncanny are up his ass so much. What do you guys think, should/can he or let him stay far away from this book.

LoneWolf21
09-30-2005, 10:58 AM
I wouldn't mind him writing a one-shot, just to see his take on these versions of the characters (although Wolverine has defintely changed more towards his MU counterpart over the years), maybe a guest arc, eyond that? Not sure.

Of course I've also always been curious to see what he'd do with the AOA versions of the characters too.

Cayman
09-30-2005, 10:58 AM
Not really. Why should he repeat what he's already done?

Besides, most of his fans seem to like how he references really old storylines and characters.

Cay

Keith_Martineau
09-30-2005, 11:02 AM
I love Claremont.
But the whole point of Ultimate X-Men was to recreate these characters so that they aren't wedded to 20 years of continuity. Most of which that Claremont himself wrote.
Let him continue to play with the ones that are his, let these other new toys be played with by the new kids.

Ryan K
09-30-2005, 11:14 AM
I love Claremont too, but no. I'm sort of interested to see where Ultimate X-Men will go without Claremont's guiding hand (though technically that's pretty much impossible when you consider how Ultimate X-Men takes old X-Men stories and just tweaks them).

But I really wouldn't want to see him on Ultimate. Ever.

Christopher O
09-30-2005, 11:21 AM
Hell and no. The Ultimate Universe is supposed to be fresh and modern, and Claremont is neither. He's got a retro style that absolutely doesn't fit with the Ultimate U. Same goes for John Byrne, Alan Davis, Marv Wolfman, George Perez, and so forth. They're all comic book legends and rightfully so, but they're also very dated.

Fede
09-30-2005, 11:25 AM
no way. cool if he writes x-men:the end, but dont touch ultimate x-men, wich is perfect as it is.

Valen
09-30-2005, 11:55 AM
Nope. Keep him far away from the Ultimate Universe.

Mister Mets
09-30-2005, 12:55 PM
No.

As a general rule the Ultimate writers should be younger, and not have written the 616 adventures of the heroes.

Ugoff
09-30-2005, 01:25 PM
I wouldn't mind him writing a one-shot, just to see his take on these versions of the characters (although Wolverine has defintely changed more towards his MU counterpart over the years), maybe a guest arc, eyond that? Not sure.

Of course I've also always been curious to see what he'd do with the AOA versions of the characters too.

I'm surprised so many CC fans said no. That's interesting. I say let him have at it, at least for one arc. What's the worst that could happen? Anything he does could probably be retconned. I'm in no way a CC fan, I havent liked any of his recent work but I doubt he could make the book any worse. Ulti. X has been awful at least IMO for a while now. Sorry BKV but I really havent felt anything for your run on the title.

Arrjay
09-30-2005, 01:28 PM
I love Claremont.
But the whole point of Ultimate X-Men was to recreate these characters so that they aren't wedded to 20 years of continuity.

That's how I feel. New Universe. New people please.

streator
09-30-2005, 01:37 PM
no, i would not like to see claremont on ultimate x-men.

Keith_Martineau
09-30-2005, 01:38 PM
I'm surprised so many CC fans said no. That's interesting. I say let him have at it, at least for one arc. What's the worst that could happen? Anything he does could probably be retconned. I'm in no way a CC fan, I havent liked any of his recent work but I doubt he could make the book any worse. Ulti. X has been awful at least IMO for a while now. Sorry BKV but I really havent felt anything for your run on the title.

Well thats just it. The Ultimate Universe is supposed to be told in such a way as to keep things clear and consistent, so that you don't HAVE to retcon stuff.

G. Wayne
09-30-2005, 01:41 PM
Hell and no. The Ultimate Universe is supposed to be fresh and modern, and Claremont is neither. He's got a retro style that absolutely doesn't fit with the Ultimate U. Same goes for John Byrne, Alan Davis, Marv Wolfman, George Perez, and so forth. They're all comic book legends and rightfully so, but they're also very dated.

sums up my thoughts on the matter(s) pretty much.

Sorry BKV but I really havent felt anything for your run on the title.

really? wow. to each their own and all that, but i think bkv's stuff on ult. x-men is the best the series has been.

Cayman
09-30-2005, 01:42 PM
I could see him doing other Ultimate projects, but not Ultimate X-Men. It's like having Frank Miller do Ultimate Daredevil. It'd be unnecessary repetition.

Cay

Jesse Newcomb
09-30-2005, 03:06 PM
I could see him doing other Ultimate projects, but not Ultimate X-Men. It's like having Frank Miller do Ultimate Daredevil. It'd be unnecessary repetition.

Cay

Isn't he writing All-Star Batman? Isn't that like an Ultimate version of Batman?

And Frank Miller doing anything on Daredevil again would be GREAT and not unnecessary repetition like Chris Claremont has been for the last ten years.

Jake V
09-30-2005, 03:12 PM
Could Claremont write Ultimate X-Men? Yeah, sure. He could write it in the sense that he could write a script for an issue and title it Ultimate X-Men.

Should he write Ultimate X-Men? Oh please god no. Ultimate X-Men is where you go to get away from Claremont's style.

fishtaco
09-30-2005, 03:20 PM
Heck no!!!! If he were to be given another X-book, I would want it to be New X-Men (along with the title changing to The New Mutants). I wonder what his next project will be when he finishes X-Men: The End.

I can care less about Ultimate X-Men, or Ultimate anything for that matter.

Callie
09-30-2005, 03:35 PM
Chris Claremont helped make the 616 Universe what it is today. I absolutely could not see a writer so mired and steeped in the main universe's history writing a fresh take on it. I'm sure he's quite capable of separating himself from the main universe and writing a story that would look, sound and feel like Ultimate X-Men, but I'm not sure we could separate our expectations of him from it. And it would always have a Claremont feel to it that would suck some of the Ultimate sense of being out of the book.

Ultimate X-Men really needs someone who hasn't written X-Men for decades. It was the fresh perspectives and ideas from Mark Millar that originally got me to pick up the book.

As it is, Ultimate X-Men is starting to tread dangerously close to the main universe; it's time for them to pull back again.

xmanson
09-30-2005, 03:52 PM
Why?

Really, what would be the point?

Not that I care about alternative characters and their boring stories.

Charagon
09-30-2005, 03:56 PM
I could see him doing other Ultimate projects, but not Ultimate X-Men. It's like having Frank Miller do Ultimate Daredevil. It'd be unnecessary repetition.

Cay

What he said.

Bart Simpson
09-30-2005, 05:06 PM
A resounding NO!

RED KING
09-30-2005, 10:14 PM
Claremont? What Ultimate needs is Evolution writers. Rather than re-hashing (and poorly so) old stories, make it truely fresh.

Not to address the Claremont point... Sure, give him a shot. Seems the only direction the book could go is up.
Not saying I'd deffinately buy it, but It's be worth a flip though.

Marty4Magik
10-01-2005, 05:40 AM
BIG Claremont fan here, but NO, he should not write Ultimate.
Firstly, because I don't read it.

Secondly, if Marvel really wants to have CC write a non-616 title, it should be:

Claremont presents: X-men: the Untold Stories.

Let CC pick up where he left in '91, preferably right after the Muir Island Saga.
Let him continue there as if he never left.

I'd buy ten copies of each issue.... :cool: