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blackdragon6
09-28-2005, 06:59 PM
it looks interesting,plus stuart townsend is hott :p no seriously what do you think? lol

Royal
09-28-2005, 08:04 PM
I dig the oldskool.

Tish-the-Scorpion
09-28-2005, 08:42 PM
the oldskool aged horribly.never the less i like it,but deffinetly looking forward to the revival.and yeah stuart is rather cute.

VCreed32
09-29-2005, 08:26 AM
Potentially, something to watch after Smallville.

BoosterBronze
09-29-2005, 12:51 PM
Man, this thread is disapointing. I thought we would talk about LA serial killer Richard Ramirez, not some lame show.

:::pouts:::

CaptainAwesome
09-29-2005, 01:30 PM
I dont know about this show. Im gonna watch the first episode cuz im a fan of the old school, but this one looks like it lacks one of the best parts in the old show. A sense of humor. I guess ill see tonight.

SoulOnIce
09-29-2005, 01:40 PM
it looks interesting,plus stuart townsend is hott :p no seriously what do you think? lol

It's getting HORRIBLE reviews. I was revved up for this show but it seems like it's going to be a clunker.

blackdragon6
09-29-2005, 07:43 PM
its far from a clunker so far the first episode is awesome!!! i also like the look of the show.it has a psuedo-documentary type look.

Tish-the-Scorpion
09-29-2005, 08:07 PM
It's getting HORRIBLE reviews. I was revved up for this show but it seems like it's going to be a clunker.you follow reviews? :confused: well we're not all perfect.eitherway its starting right now,i'll give my judgement when i actually SEE the show.

Corrina
09-29-2005, 09:26 PM
Oh. My. God.

That was awful.

First 15 minutes had every damn horror movie cliche in the book. Wind chimes!! Twice!! A pilot episode and they went with freakin' wind chimes???!!

The original show was cheesy but was intentional, fitting the tone.

This tries to be serious and ends up being cheesy. Much, more worse.

Bad, bad, bad.

Tish-the-Scorpion
09-29-2005, 09:29 PM
it looks like it was shot with a digital camera,thats where the look comes from.i didn't find it as bad as corrina did,but it wasn't jaw droping.it still peaks my interests so i may stay a lil longer.

Iron Maiden
09-30-2005, 12:36 AM
That was Kolchak? I thought they brought back the X-Files. :D

Not a good beginning and Stuart Townsend is deadly dull. Maybe his wife was killed by the mutated descendants of the Bumpus dogs from Christmas Story. This show was lacking one of the key elements of "Night Stalker" and that was a sense of humor. I think it was a mistake to make Kolchak this tormented guy instead of a down and out reporter trying to get back into the big game.

I did notice they brought in the backstory of him being from Las Vegas with the suspicion of murder hanging over his head. That was about the only homage to the original made for TV movie that I picked up on. Kolchak could not tell his story because the police were going to bring him up on murder charges for killing the vampire.

CHEYENNE-BLACKBIRD
09-30-2005, 02:09 AM
i caught the last 20 minutes of it,if you like supernatural then you'll love this.critics have panned the show but they also seems to like threshold wich i havent warmed up to yet.if anythings dull its deffinately threshold.as far as the old series go i doubt it inteded to have a sense of humor.having said that i liked the concept of the original but hated the show it self.like tish said earlier the older show has'nt aged well..........at all

Jared
09-30-2005, 02:05 PM
I thought it was about on par with one the supernatural-themed X-Files episodes. Not one the best episodes, but but a decent one. The reveal of the mark at the end did have me intrigued.

StoneGold
09-30-2005, 02:34 PM
I did notice they brought in the backstory of him being from Las Vegas with the suspicion of murder hanging over his head. That was about the only homage to the original made for TV movie that I picked up on. Kolchak could not tell his story because the police were going to bring him up on murder charges for killing the vampire.
There was a scene in his apartment where you could see the original Kolchak's hat on a hat rack. Or at least in the early version I saw.

artemisboy
09-30-2005, 03:11 PM
I was looking forward to it as I really like both Stuart Townsend and Gabrielle Union (BRING IT ON!), especially since it looked like the "bad guy" was going to be a werewolf. YEAH! BUT, the show didn't really flow all that well. There was no real chemistry between the actors. I did really like the photographer character. He had a lot of great characterization, but sadly not a lot of the other actors did. I love the genre, love the actors ... I'm just hoping that the second episode blows the pilot out of the water.

- Peter

DDM
09-30-2005, 03:31 PM
Night Stalker has traded to look cool for the original show's character drive personality from later actor, Darren McGavin (sp?). I would rather watch the original episodes than this tepid trash. I hope it gets cancelled soon.

Steve
09-30-2005, 09:22 PM
zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

Sorry, can't say I'll be following this one.

Punisher
09-30-2005, 09:39 PM
The first episode was all right but I'll need to see a few more episodes to see if it's a show I'm going to watch regularly.

Toreador
09-30-2005, 11:30 PM
Taped it but haven't watched it yet.
Did anybody else see Darren McGavin (as the original Kolchak) in the newsroom? I was flipping channels while Reunion was on a commercial break and I could swear I saw him in a scene.

Tish-the-Scorpion
10-01-2005, 03:01 AM
Taped it but haven't watched it yet.
Did anybody else see Darren McGavin (as the original Kolchak) in the newsroom? I was flipping channels while Reunion was on a commercial break and I could swear I saw him in a scene.
i think it was him.

Tish-the-Scorpion
10-01-2005, 03:04 AM
I thought it was about on par with one the supernatural-themed X-Files episodes. Not one the best episodes, but but a decent one. The reveal of the mark at the end did have me intrigued.i agree with cheyenne that if you like supernatural then you'll like this.i think it'll get better it needs time to develope.most people just hate it to hate it because its a revival of a cult tv show (that has'nt aged well BTW)

Perry Holley
10-01-2005, 07:12 AM
That was Kolchak? I thought they brought back the X-Files. :D That was my reaction, as well. As I saw someone elsewhere comment, it seemed a whole lot less like Night Stalker 2.0 than it does X-Files 1.5.

Perry Holley
10-01-2005, 07:15 AM
i agree with cheyenne that if you like supernatural then you'll like this.OTOH, I enjoyed Supernatural much more than Night Stalker, just because the former seemed to be a lot more fun, and a lot less pretentious.

CHEYENNE-BLACKBIRD
10-01-2005, 07:53 AM
OTOH, I enjoyed Supernatural much more than Night Stalker, just because the former seemed to be a lot more fun, and a lot less pretentious.lol........perhaps,but i don't think supernatural is devoid of pretentiousness.never the less i would'nt call supernatural "fun".

DDM
10-01-2005, 09:23 AM
i think it was him.

Darren McGavin is dead. He was digitally imposed in that scene.

DonC
10-01-2005, 09:33 AM
Darren McGavin is dead. He was digitally imposed in that scene.



Darren McGavin is not dead, but, yes, they digitally inserted him in the show. I hate that. When I read there was a nod to the original in the new version, I expected it to be Townsend trying on Kolchak's straw hat or something, not digitally inserting McGavin into the show.


Anyway, I'm like Toreador, I just saw that one scene. Does anybody know if ABC is going to re-air the pilot sometime before the second episode?

Tish-the-Scorpion
10-01-2005, 09:48 AM
Darren McGavin is dead. He was digitally imposed in that scene.
eitherway it was him lol

Elias Bogan
10-01-2005, 02:07 PM
Apparnartly, ABC is thinking about 'Night Stalker' the cushy Wednesdays at 10pm slot if 'Invasion' bleeds viewers for another week. The show actually gianed viewers throughout its telecast and build on its leadins demo numbers!!!

Steve
10-01-2005, 04:23 PM
Does anybody know if ABC is going to re-air the pilot sometime before the second episode?

I don't believe they will. I don't see any encores listed.

Ravenheart
10-01-2005, 04:44 PM
I thought the first episode was okay but its lacking the charm that made the original so good.I'm hoping they get rid of the female reporter and the kid in some shape or form.Kolchak was always a loner in the old series and he should be in this one too.

blackdragon6
10-01-2005, 11:50 PM
nah garbriell union is way to fine to get rid of.either way all i know is that i liked the scene where the family's corpses was dangeling from the ceiling. :eek:

tricksterpup
10-02-2005, 08:28 AM
I did notice they brought in the backstory of him being from Las Vegas with the suspicion of murder hanging over his head. That was about the only homage to the original made for TV movie that I picked up on. Kolchak could not tell his story because the police were going to bring him up on murder charges for killing the vampire.
It would have been nice for him to be arrested for murdering the vampire in Las Vegas but instead he was being investigated for his wife's murder. To much of a cliche for me. This show just screamed X-files to much for me but then again its being produced by Frank Spotnitz. I liked the loaner aspects of the orignal plus the thought that no believed him except for a few people. But we shall see where this show goes, I hear the first 2 episodes were real stinkers, and yes, I agree that the first one was a stinker. I shall see 2 and hope that it does get better after that one.
As for the original my favorite was always the Night Strangler, the second tv movie that took place in Seattle with Jack the Ripper, fun stuff.

Pamela Jarvinen
10-21-2005, 12:39 AM
yawn :eek:
actually when you stand the original up along side the current, you have two entirely different programs. however, other than the names of 'Carl Kolchak' and 'Tony Vincenzo', the characters from the original series were not licensed, neither was the story content, so what would we expect.

as a former ex-files & kolchak fan, I was hoping that whatever way this new version went, I would be wooed by some sort of mystery, creepiness, or intrique... three episodes later, I got nothing, or at least not enough to keep me coming back.

I've read comments that some critics thought it would have been a better show if Gabriel Union had played the daughter of Kolchak, and Spotnitz had never used Townsend. I think if Mr. Spotnitz had gone that route, he could have drawn his younger crowd in, added that bit of sexiness to the show, and still pulled off a sequel type version of the original. Trying to fill the shoes of Darren McGavin would be a tough role for any actor, and it might have been easier to play this with a son or daughter following in dad's shoes. Gabriel could still keep her defiant attitude that says "no way there's a logincal reason for this" (skully), but been investigating and reporting the paranormal like dad.

by the way, nope, original Kolchak, Darren McGavin is very much alive. he has a website with pictures of him and his late wife Kathie:
www.darrenmcgavin.net/

GremlinClr
10-21-2005, 07:01 AM
That had to be the worst ending last night.

"My God, I've seen the ink of this mass market produced and everyone has 3 of them marker before! You must be the killer!"

What's next?

"My God, there's air in this house! There was air at the crime scene! You must be the killer!"

Gimmie a break. If this show doesn't start getting better I won't be watching.

IamtheRock3
10-21-2005, 07:58 AM
pretty creepy

but yea how he figured out bad guy was a leap


But still liked it.

tricksterpup
10-21-2005, 09:23 AM
You know, it hit me the other day but what this show is missing is the Original's Kolchak's light heartedness. Instead we got this guy who is just depressed all the time. I miss the old Kolchak who was this jovial guy, always laughing and smiling. :) The original guy was likable but the new one, he needs prozak.

Cash Lone
10-21-2005, 10:10 AM
You know, it hit me the other day but what this show is missing is the Original's Kolchak's light heartedness. Instead we got this guy who is just depressed all the time. I miss the old Kolchak who was this jovial guy, always laughing and smiling. :) The original guy was likable but the new one, he needs prozak.

I agree somewhat - Townsend is a good actor, has the right feel to be Kolchak 2.0, but his dialogue and the script really dont give him much room as an actor to breathe. This version of Kolchak can be downbeat and brooding, but its done in such a way that he's one dimensional. I guess thats why they have the chix on the show - to balance him out, but she steals every scene she's in w/ him.

Last night was my first viewing of this new series - Like everyone else I was dissapointed. The opening credits/ music score lacked any drama or excitement. And if a supernatural/horror/mystery show should be anything - it should be exciting.

In this new version of the show, will Kolchak fight Vampires and other monsters like the original or is this designed to be in the X-files vein?

Corrina
10-21-2005, 10:16 AM
The new Kolchak smirts.

I hate that.

He also struts when he walks. I hate that too.

Aside from that, this last episode did seem a bit better than the pilot. Still nothing plotwise that seemed original, however.

GremlinClr
10-21-2005, 10:25 AM
The new Kolchak smirts.

I hate that.

He also struts when he walks. I hate that too.

Aside from that, this last episode did seem a bit better than the pilot. Still nothing plotwise that seemed original, however.

Smirts? Is that dirty? It sounds dirty.

Corrina
10-21-2005, 12:16 PM
I could go back and fix the typo and claim ignorance but that would be wrong. :)

Instead, I will claim it is an obscure word meaning too much acting with the shoulders and sound smart.

Dennis K
10-21-2005, 01:14 PM
I keep meaning to at least tape this show and watch it at a later time, but I never seem to do it.

DDM
10-21-2005, 01:48 PM
Stuart Townsend is miscast. With the female sidekick, The Night Stalker appears to be a diluted version of The X-Files. I just don't see the all new, all different Night Stalker lasting more than a season. The show lacks depth, a sense of humor, & the lead is just all wrong.

Bright-Raven
10-21-2005, 02:37 PM
Townsend is fine. Frankly, McGavin's version of Kolchak was an acquired taste, and I'm glad the nerd with the lame ass hat and bad suits isn't what we have now.

The stories are uninspired and predictable, and Grabrielle Union's character is written so badly they might as well just write her out of the show. She supposedly is this tough crime beat writer, but she backs down every damned time an obstacle arises.

To make the show better, I'd remove Union's character completely and make Kolchak express his introspectiveness, his turmoil over his investigations. Instead we have her displaying it for him and being completely out of character, and him being less of a character as a result.

DonC
10-21-2005, 03:12 PM
I heard on the radio today that both Night Stalker and Alias are being shelved for the November sweeps.

DDM
10-21-2005, 03:34 PM
I heard on the radio today that both Night Stalker and Alias are being shelved for the November sweeps.

It's not a good sign for a new show to be shelved for November sweeps. Night Stalker needs to be retooled at least to work along with better scripts & better actors.

Elias Bogan
10-21-2005, 05:08 PM
They need to give it a shot on Wednesdays after 'Lost' since 'Invasion' wont be able to air new episodes every week...