Avengers' Teleporter - Yay or Nay?

[Brian R]

Simple enough: Why dont the Avengers have some sort of teleporter technology at their disposal? I refuse to believe that with access to Tony Stark, Hank Pym, T'Challa and Reed Richards, that a simple teleporter couldnt be constructed so that team-members could be assembled from across the globe to Avengers' Tower.

I mean, the JLA have one, and the level of tech in the DCU isnt any superior to the Marvel U, and it would have the benefit(in my mind) of changing the way the team operates. Now characters that live outside of NYC like Black Panther, Namor, or even Captain Britain, could be full-time Avengers.

I am talking about a teleporter that could bring the heroes from wherever they are directly to the Tower, and from there they would have to rely on the same transportation they do now. I really cant see any downside to it, although I am sure someone will come up with something. :)

[Jake V]

Because it emiminates a lot of drama that comes with simple limitations like transportation.

Yeah, it would be really convenient to just beam everywhere, but convenience is the enemy of conflict and makes for boring comics.

There's really no story reason for them to not have that sort of technology, other than the same sort of metatext reasons that Reed Richards has never cured Ben Grimm, or that human beings still hate mutants.

[Brian R]

Because it emiminates a lot of drama that comes with simple limitations like transportation.

Yeah, it would be really convenient to just beam everywhere, but convenience is the enemy of conflict and makes for boring comics.

Whoa, hold up there. I dont mean that I think the team should be able to beam everywhere. I meant that there could be a central teleporter in Avengers' Tower which could beam heroes from where they are to the Tower, perhaps using some kind of localizer that teammates would have to carry around. I was not talking about beaming them around the globe at will, that would be silly, but allowing everyone to meet up at HQ at the same time would open up the roster in my opinion.

[o1pickleboy]

It sounds cool in thought, but I would rather they didn't have a teleporter. (maybe a team member that could wouldn't be so bad)

To me the JLA and Avengers have been like Star Trek and Babylon 5. In Star Trek everything was handed to them.( no real problems like food, transportation and a good government) In Babylon 5 they had nothing but problems and diffeculties with food or transportation.(not to mention bad government) Those elements add to and sometimes were the story. I liked that. I made Babylon 5 more realistic for me. More enjoyable.

To have Cap or Iron Man just beam somewhere would lessen the realness of the Avengers that I always have enjoyed.

Edit- ok more infro was added while I was typing. I still would make thing too easy for them. But if they were to get a teleporter It wouldn't stop me from buying the comic or anything.

[Brian R]

It sounds cool in thought, but I would rather they didn't have a teleporter. (maybe a team member that could wouldn't be so bad)

To me the JLA and Avengers have been like Star Trek and Babylon 5. In Star Trek everything was handed to them.( no real problems like food, transportation and a good government) In Babylon 5 they had nothing but problems and diffeculties with food or transportation.(not to mention bad government) Those elements add to and sometimes were the story. I liked that. I made Babylon 5 more realistic for me. More enjoyable.

To have Cap or Iron Man just beam somewhere would lessen the realness of the Avengers that I always have enjoyed.

Yeah, read my second post though, I am not talking about being able to teleport around instead of taking a Quinjet, I am talking about being able to teleport to the Tower only.

I have edited my original post to reflect this.

[Jake V]

Given that the Tower is in new york city, and all the members live in new york city, I don't see why teleportation would be so much more convenient than web swinging or flying or taking the elevator.

It'll save them what, 5... 10 minutes?

[o1pickleboy]

ok now I don't the idea at all. Because you put the main teleporter in the tower. Had you said the mansion, that would have been a different story. I guess if you made the teleporter problematic and gave a use in the stories.(like stranding someone on a parellel world or something) I think I would like it.

[Brian R]

Given that the Tower is in new york city, and all the members live in new york city, I don't see why teleportation would be so much more convenient than web swinging or flying or taking the elevator.

It'll save them what, 5... 10 minutes?

Are you not reading my posts... thats my whole point. Having the teleporter would allow for non-NYC residents to be full-time Avengers. Really, I stated that exact reason in my original post Jake. So while its not a huge bonus right now, it would be if they wanted T'Challa on the team again, or even Black Widow.

[Brian R]

ok now I don't the idea at all. Because you put the main teleporter in the tower. Had you said the mansion, that would have been a different story. I guess if you made the teleporter problematic and gave a use in the stories.(like stranding someone on a parellel world or something) I think I would like it.

Why would it be in the mansion, their HQ is the Tower, the mansion is in ruins. Why would it make more sense to have it at their old headquarters??

[Jake V]

Has Black Panther or Black Widow had trouble getting to the HQ before?

[Brian R]

Has Black Panther or Black Widow had trouble getting to the HQ before?

How am I having to explain this?? Its really making me nuts.


Ok, T'Challa lives in FREAKING WAKANDA, right? So its gonna take him at least 15-20 minutes between receiving an alert, boarding some high-tech jet, and arriving at the Tower, and it could be a lot longer depending on where he is exactly. Now, if there is some kind of urgent situation, the team might not be able to wait for him. Thats why its hard to have non-NYC people as regular members, because you cant count on them being there all the time, whereas the regular members usually live at the Mansion/Tower.

How is this a difficult concept?

[Jake V]

And lose the ability to play up the drama of T'Challa trying as hard as he can to get to the tower as fast as he can?

That makes for boring comics.

[Brian R]

And lose the ability to play up the drama of T'Challa trying as hard as he can to get to the tower as fast as he can?

That makes for boring comics.

As opposed to limiting the membership to NY-based heroes? Yeah, thats so not boring.

[o1pickleboy]

Why would it be in the mansion, their HQ is the Tower, the mansion is in ruins. Why would it make more sense to have it at their old headquarters??


The mansion is in ruins now, but sooner or later they will return to the mansion. I dislike that they left the mansion, the tower just doensn't seen cool enough for me. I though your idea was universal that it would work in any HQ for the Avengers. If next issue the new base was in Florida, it wouldn't make much sense for the teleporter to be in the tower either.


and I was making a joke

[Brian R]

The mansion is in ruins now, but sooner or later they will return to the mansion. I dislike that they left the mansion, the tower just doensn't seen cool enough for me. I though your idea was universal that it would work in any HQ for the Avengers. If next issue the new base was in Florida, it wouldn't make much sense for the teleporter to be in the tower either.


and I was making a joke

Sorry, didnt get the joke. Basically the teleporter would be wherever their base is, and I dont see them moving around too much considering they have had like all of 2 HQs in the last forty years(afaik).

[Jake V]

As opposed to limiting the membership to NY-based heroes? Yeah, thats so not boring.
There's like 2 or 3 non-new york based superheros. So they'll need to fly in. Too bad.

Frankly, As long as Hudlin is writing BP, I'd rather that the character stays far away from the books I'm reading.

[Brian R]

There's like 2 or 3 non-new york based superheros. So they'll need to fly in. Too bad.


I know you know your Marvel better than that, so I wont even answer that seriously. You KNOW there are more than that.

And yeah, Hudlin's BP is not my style either, but the character still rocks, and a different writer is all it takes.

[o1pickleboy]

There's like 2 or 3 non-new york based superheros. So they'll need to fly in. Too bad.

Frankly, As long as Hudlin is writing BP, I'd rather that the character stays far away from the books I'm reading.


That is what I think marvel biggest problem is that everyone is in New York. You think anyone normal would move away.

[Brian R]

That is what I think marvel biggest problem is that everyone is in New York. You think anyone normal would move away.

That is a problem, at least in my opinion, and the teleporter would only become more useful if Marvel woke-up and started having their heroes more spread out.

[Paradox]

You guys are trying too hard.

"Why dont the Avengers have some sort of teleporter technology at their disposal?"

Because it's too "'70s JLA".

[Gibran]

I think the tower/mansion should have an anti-teleportation field around it... for security reasons. I mean, villains have access to that kind of tech too. :p

[Alan2099]

In an alternte reality tale, the Avengers DID have a teleporter.

Punisher igged it to kill them all when they used it. Now this is just the Punisher. He a very low tech guy. Think to Loki, Mandarin, Red Skull, Ultron, Dr. Doom, and all the other tech gods the Avengers fight.

THAT is why they don't use a teleporter. because a villian can figure it out and use it to scrammble their molecules or redirect it into the sun or something.

[StoneGold]

The main reason is, it doesn't really matter. Writer wants the Avengers to get someplace in 10 seconds flat, they do it. Writer wants the Avengers to take a little longer, they do it. That's the beauty of the narrative, it's easy to hide traveling time.

[The Shadow]

Frankly, As long as Hudlin is writing BP, I'd rather that the character stays far away from the books I'm reading.
I totally agree with you here... though I've never hidden that!!!

[Devourer of Words]

Personally I don't think the Avengers should have a teleporter, as it would make things too easy and boring. Unless there was a major drawback, that is...

What I'd prefer is something along the lines of what was in place just before the Kang Dynasty; Have the main team & headquarters situated in New York, but have various Avengers situated around the globe in case of trouble. A problem arises somewhere, and any nearby Avengers would be able to hopefully manage things until the main team got there. Keeps the emphasis on the team, while making things a little more global. Oh, and cameos from characters who are actually Avengers would be nice as well!

[Will.S]

Nah, I'm not too crazy on the teleporter.

The JLA pretty much need the damn thing since their base is on the Moon so NYC is a bit more accessible ;)

[Shellhead]

Simple enough: Why dont the Avengers have some sort of teleporter technology at their disposal? I refuse to believe that with access to Tony Stark, Hank Pym, T'Challa and Reed Richards, that a simple teleporter couldnt be constructed so that team-members could be assembled from across the globe to Avengers' Tower.

I mean, the JLA have one, and the level of tech in the DCU isnt any superior to the Marvel U, and it would have the benefit(in my mind) of changing the way the team operates. Now characters that live outside of NYC like Black Panther, Namor, or even Captain Britain, could be full-time Avengers.

I am talking about a teleporter that could bring the heroes from wherever they are directly to the Tower, and from there they would have to rely on the same transportation they do now. I really cant see any downside to it, although I am sure someone will come up with something. :)

If Reed was capable of creating a teleporter, why did he bother designing so many flying vehicles for the FF? The Pogo Plane, the Fantasticar, the Skycycle, etc. Likewise, Tony Stark created boot jets for his armor, and Black Panther designed Falcon's wings, and they collaborated on the Quinjets, but we've seen no indication that they are capable of teleportation technology. Pym discovered the Pym particle, and has worked on insects, robots, and artificial intelligence, but probably lacks the requisite physics background for the teleporter.

[Brian R]

If Reed was capable of creating a teleporter, why did he bother designing so many flying vehicles for the FF? The Pogo Plane, the Fantasticar, the Skycycle, etc. Likewise, Tony Stark created boot jets for his armor, and Black Panther designed Falcon's wings, and they collaborated on the Quinjets, but we've seen no indication that they are capable of teleportation technology. Pym discovered the Pym particle, and has worked on insects, robots, and artificial intelligence, but probably lacks the requisite physics background for the teleporter.

Are you joking? Reed created the Ultimate Nullifier, yet you think a simple teleporter is out of the question?

Either way, I can see most people dont like the idea, although the reasons given to me so far really strike me as "Because we dont want to be like the JLA" rather than anything else. I mean, you think its harder to boobytrap a teleporter or a Quinjet? But I digress, the Nays have it.

[Kirk G]

Well, I think it's a good idea to explore a teleporter.

Tony could work to rig one up with Reed's help...
and it could be a running subplot...

I can see various storylines about it...
what happens when it breaks down?
What if it sends someone elsewhere?
Where did they go? What if it recovers Hawkeye's body...
What if a villian intercepted or used it to invade the tower...
What might it do to Aunt May if used in an emergency evacuation?
What would happen to the quinjets, after so many years of use?
Who would prefer to fly by quinjet and who would stay on the ground?
Who would prefer to be teleported.

Remember, Reed and the FF have encountered one or two before...in the form of Doctor Doom's time machine... and other more obvious one in FF #66-67 with the Beehive collective where/when Adam Warlock/Him/the creature was created. Reed had to create a micro-processor miniturized wrist band to activate the teleporter AND HE SUCCEEDED... but the transporter was destroyed... or WAS it? ? Hmmmm? :rolleyes:

I suppose they could go recover it or pieces of it.

[Tommy]

Ever notice how Reed has functional teleporters lying around the Baxter Building and yet they still use the fantasti car?

[Tommy]

If Reed was capable of creating a teleporter, why did he bother designing so many flying vehicles for the FF? The Pogo Plane, the Fantasticar, the Skycycle, etc. Likewise, Tony Stark created boot jets for his armor, and Black Panther designed Falcon's wings, and they collaborated on the Quinjets, but we've seen no indication that they are capable of teleportation technology. Pym discovered the Pym particle, and has worked on insects, robots, and artificial intelligence, but probably lacks the requisite physics background for the teleporter.
Ummm Reed teleports his kids to the moon daily for babysitting.

[Alan2099]

Are you joking? Reed created the Ultimate Nullifier, yet you think a simple teleporter is out of the question?
The FF stold it from Galactus. Reed didn't create it.

[Kirk G]

The FF stold it from Galactus. Reed didn't create it.
Are you serious? When did that happen? :eek:
What are you saying, that Reed stole a teleporter from Galactus? When?
JOHNNY was the one the Watcher sent back to Galactus' home world through the bands of un-life and through a space-time continum (sp?) back in FF #49 and 50. We were never shown where he actually found it, or got it from.
But then, The Watcher also allowed the Hulk to wander through his home on the Moon back in Tales to Astonish and take the clear globe that killed the Leader the first time he put it on his head....

[Alan2099]

The first time Galactus encountered the Fantastic Four, the only way they beat him was the Watcher telling the team about the Nullifier, and them sneaking in, taking it, and threatining Galactus with it.

[StoneGold]

Hell, if memory serves, didn't no one create the Nullifier? Isn't it a leftover relic from Galactus' universe?

[Mr. Nobody]

nah, i'd miss seeing the quinjets periodically crash landed/sabatoged/pursued by heat-seeking missles/blowed up or otherwise wrecked, pretty much every time the avengers go on a mission.

[StoneGold]

You know what the Avengers need? Motorcycles. Chopper style. All chromed out and stuff. That'd be sweet.

[Matt K]

It makes sense for the JLA since you have Flash and Superman as regular members. Teleportation takes away the excuse for having the rest of the team catch up as Superman solves whatever problem it was.
The Avengers don't have any real speeders so you don't have to worry about lag time.

[BobC]

They could dognap Lockjaw from the Inhumans by luring him with Scooby Snacks--then he could teleport the Avengers wherever they wanted!

[Alan2099]

You know what the Avengers need? Motorcycles. Chopper style. All chromed out and stuff. That'd be sweet.
I think the idea of Ironman on a motorcycle was be hilarious to see.

[StoneGold]

I think the idea of Ironman on a motorcycle was be hilarious to see.
They've already got toys of guys like Spider-Man and the Hulk on bikes.

[Psyco panda]

I think the idea of Ironman on a motorcycle was be hilarious to see.

So the megamorphs aint doing it for ya? ;)

When i first saw this topic, I thought someone wanted A teleporter to join the team, like nightcrawler. I'd have loved to see that, if only for more variety in NA powers.

But he's waht I was thinking. What if they could only beam between the tower and the quinjet, and vice versa. Therefore you still need a quinjet to actually get to the place, and if it's wrecked the Tp's wrecked to. It would only be of limited use then.