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fuaak
09-24-2005, 02:27 PM
WRITING:

Well, what can I say that I haven't said before? The connection to Ra's al Ghul is a logical and fitting extension of Cass's backstory, and an idea I wholeheartedly welcome - but Andersen uses "traditional", sometimes even silver-age-silly superhero themes in telling his story, and I think it's selling the character short.

I mean, let's look at this issue's main development, the new League, who instead of attacking hold Cass as a model and kneel before her. This scene should be ominous. And it could be, if the League looked more like a group of finely trained killers and less like some kind of an ethnic clown parade. Really, what am I supposed to make of names like "Wam-Wam", "Los Gemelos" and "Krunk", or these costumes and haircuts? It turns the moment into comedy and sends its impact straight to la-la-land.

Nothing much else happened in the issue, except for more premonition and a token fight with Shiva, so that's about it. The big reveal itself (and it by definition is big - it's hard to retcon or ignore a character's parents) is still to come, and once again I find myself worrying whether it'll be one of Andy's good ideas and whether it'll be executed competently - I've found Andy's work uneven lately.

+ I'm pleased to see Alpha - always thought that he was one of the better ones from Cass's short, short list of supporting characters made just for her - but I wonder what part he's playing in all this, as the last time we saw him, Cass had reformed him.

- Nyssa needs a top hat, a cackling laugh and a moustache she can twirl, she's such a stereotypical villain here.

* Cassandra wondering about the sanity of her quest in the beginning was interesting - I don't think she has ever shown any amount of self-doubt before.


ART:

Well, this was a fun exercise, trying to match pages to the three different artists who drew them.

Garza's (and Delperdang-Garza combo's) Cassandra still has the loveliest face in the whole wide world, and I submit it should be the "official" one - any artist wishing to draw her unmasked should take a good look at BG #58 and see how it's done right. On the negative side, Garza's fight scenes still suck. The exchange between the top two martial artists of the whole DCU looks like a drunken bar brawl. Cass and Shiva exchange wide, heavy-handed swings like cowboys in old westerns, inexplicably keep turning their backs to each other, and the transition from Cass hitting the floor to Cass pinning Shiva made me wonder whether I had skipped a page.

Mhan drew the first page of the Shiva/Cassandra match, and the difference shows - his version has energy in it, and well illustrates the blinding speed I expect from these two ladies. It's highly stylized and doesn't always make sense, but is more fun to watch, and gives a clearer idea about what's going on. Mhan also seems to have done away with the odd 'shoulder spikes', and I approve. His Cassandra still looks sort of anorexic and rubbery, though - she doesn't seem to have any muscles on her bones - and there's a weird "ring" around both of her eyes.

* The final pages where Cass loses the mouth patch and the eye lenses, and her mask turns into an all-black version of Barbara's had me once again thinking that something should be done with the mask - only a couple artists have managed to draw it really well in its current state, none of them inside a comic (I'm thinking Harris & Royal in the cover of Shadow of the Bat #83, James Jean in the cover of Batgirl #57, maybe Jim Lee in the cover of that Supergirl issue he did, and whoever drew this original design: http://img233.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ambgcostume6jx.jpg ). It's time for some experiments, methinks. Something as simple as changing the color of the eye lenses into something visible could work wonders.

+ Both artists drew a cool Alpha.

* Finally, call me a prude, but I found it a little bit distracting that Nyssa's cleavage extended well below her navel.

cactusmaac
09-24-2005, 02:33 PM
I don't mind the new League. Most of these guys are probably cannon fodder for the upcoming issues anyway.

Liked Shiva's dialogue (she needed a mini dammit, not Richard Dragon) and I'm reasonanly interested in where this is all going.

mohammedali
09-24-2005, 03:30 PM
I found it strange how Shiva called herself destruction in a comic with the subtitle "daughter of destruction". Having said that, I don't think that she's Cass' mum. Nysaa seems much more the likely candidate. Also, Cass' 'other father' - i.e. Batman, could still end up being her real father. hopefully we'll find out more next ish.

Mohammed Ali

fuaak
09-24-2005, 03:41 PM
I found it strange how Shiva called herself destruction in a comic with the subtitle "daughter of destruction".
That's not a new one for her. In hindu mythology, the "real" Shiva is called "the Destroyer". The thuggee cult that follows the comic-Shiva around also calls her that, and the title of the issue 25 where BG and Shiva fought the first time was "I have become death, destroyer of worlds" (a quote from Bhagvad Gita), so the title of the arc has always been a pretty clear hint.

Or, it could just be a ruse and refer to destruction in general.

mohammedali
09-24-2005, 04:31 PM
That's not a new one for her. In hindu mythology, the "real" Shiva is called "the Destroyer". The thuggee cult that follows the comic-Shiva around also calls her that, and the title of the issue 25 where BG and Shiva fought the first time was "I have become death, destroyer of worlds" (a quote from Bhagvad Gita), so the title of the arc has always been a pretty clear hint.

Or, it could just be a ruse and refer to destruction in general.
This is true, though I'm just suprised that they seem to be hinting towards Shiva in the title, but Nyssa in the comics. They actually have me a little torn on who it is, but Nysaa is still my first guess.

Mohammed Ali

fuaak
09-24-2005, 04:54 PM
This is true, though I'm just suprised that they seem to be hinting towards Shiva in the title, but Nyssa in the comics. They actually have me a little torn on who it is, but Nysaa is still my first guess.
Hinting towards Nyssa, how? They've repeated time and time again that Shiva is the number one suspect. The only pro-Nyssa "hint" I've seen is that Garza draws her looking vaguely similar to Cass.

It wouldn't sit very well with the al-Ghul family's established Arabic origin, either - where would Cassandra's East Asian looks come from then?

Lester C.
09-24-2005, 06:36 PM
I love the current run of Batgirl. It’s made me glad that I did not drop the book even though I desperately wanted to after the original art team left the book. I was disappointed to see Alpha in the book and I hope it not foreshadowing for things to come for Cassandra. After all Alpha was symbolic of Cassandra quest for redemption and absolution and if the rumors are true regarding Babs well I’d rather not think about as Batgirl is bar none my favorite Bat book.

seaidan
09-24-2005, 07:16 PM
Nysaa seems much more the likely candidate. Also, Cass' 'other father' - i.e. Batman, could still end up being her real father.

Nyssa can't have children; she's been sterile since World War II. And Bruce as her father doesn't make since, as he probably would already know by now.

Sean Whitmore
09-24-2005, 07:53 PM
A quick recap on Alpha would be much appreciated. :) I dropped the book early on and just recently started again with "Fresh Blood".

And I really hope Cassie doesn't decide she likes her mask better with the mouth and eye slits open. Talk about generic.


SEAN

Lester C.
09-24-2005, 08:37 PM
I haven’t reread all my issues of Batgirl since 50 but I’m sure others will fill in what I miss or remember incorrectly. Alpha was David Cain best friend and fellow assassin that helped train Batgirl when she was eight. Being the evil assassin he was he set up an atomic bomb that was going to kill everybody in Gotham. However after he set the bomb he lost his memory and became convinced he was a government agent and convinced himself that he was on of the good guys. He regained his memory and had to decide to be the good guy he created or go back to his old evil ways. Like Batgirl he was a force for evil but when given the choice he became a force for good and changed his ways forever. To judge the newly reformed Alpha would be to judge herself so Batgirl just let him go rather than arrest him and until the recent issue he was on an island living the life of a civilian.

Sean Whitmore
09-24-2005, 09:17 PM
Ah, yes, that does ring a bell. Thanks, Lester. :)


SEAN

Guts/Batman
09-24-2005, 10:37 PM
I just flipped through it on Wednesday. I will have to pick it up Wednesday.

Interesting stuff...

Guts/Batman
09-28-2005, 08:02 PM
Just got it.

Got me wondering, is it possible that Ra's is her father?