is House of M receiving good feedback?

[nubly]

ive been buying all the crossovers but havent got a time to read them yet. i did read the first two issues of new x-men and mutopia x and i thought they were great. course, i like reading about alternate realites though. are the core HOM issues doing good in the market?

[Beast]

Well, good sales and good feedback are too different things. For the most part, a lot of people seem to be enjoying the main book. There's a lot of complaints of slow pacing, but going by the 'Three Act' structure, I think it's just fine. Most of the tie-in books have actually been better than the main books, in my opinion. The only ones I didn't really like was Cable/Deadpool and New Thunderbolts. Iron Man was a little pointless, but otherwise all of them had their strong and weak points just like most books. Sales wise, House of M is selling really hot, and all the tie-in issues are having large sales jumps. :)

[Converge]

my 2 cents:

i had high hopes for this event. but its just been one big let down. bendis had the chance to do something really epic and exciting. but instead we get one of the most boring mini-series i've read in a long time.

[Jake V]

It's getting the same "feedback" that any "event" series of it's kind does. Some people hate it for existing, some people love the pants off of it, and some people act too cool to care... with few people falling in between.

Sales wise, the mini itself is selling really well, with all the related minis doing well, and ongoing series that take part in it are getting a sales bump simply by getting involved.

[Red State Cap]

As they say, money talks and B.S. walks. The only thing that really matters to Marvel are the sales figures, which apparently have been good.
On the other hand, the opinion of a lot of fans (judging by posts here and other boards) is decidedly mixed.
I started out buying but dropped at #5. Frankly I don't appreciate the fact that a book advertised as a New Avengers/X-Men crossover is in fact an X-Men mini.

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[Ivan Isaacs]

The series has a typo in it's title - they should've called it House of W: A Wolverine Event.

Five issues, nothing happens and except for New Thunderbolts I liked all the tie-ins way better - even the crappy penciled Iron Man (don't read Black Panther though).

[Charagon]

I'm much more interested in the aftermath of this story than the story itself.

[Beast]

I'm much more interested in the aftermath of this story than the story itself.
Same. It looks like it's really going to re-energize the X-Books which have needed it since the mid 90's. :)

[Lord S]

The series has a typo in it's title - they should've called it House of W: A Wolverine Event. Ne'er have truer words been spoken.

Further evidenced by this teaser for the conclusion:

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Yet another round in the ongoing feud between Wolvie and Magneto. Sadly, for all the hype and buildup, this crossover may end up falling flat on its face.

[Hellpop]

I think "mixed" may actually be a little kind in describing the reaction. Nearly everything I've seen about the book has been negative. I think Marvel made a mistake by billing it as a New Avengers/ Astonishing X- Men book without actually crossing over into those books. It seems like they just attached the titles for hype.

[jade_nova]

Reading the articles that came out before the miniseries started makes it sound different from what it actually is.

[kelvingreen]

Well, good sales and good feedback are too different things. For the most part, a lot of people seem to be enjoying the main book. There's a lot of complaints of slow pacing, but going by the 'Three Act' structure, I think it's just fine.
Really? We're six issues into an eight issue series, and we're not into Act Two yet. And that's "fine"? :p

[StoneGold]

Really? We're six issues into an eight issue series, and we're not into Act Two yet. And that's "fine"? :p
Act 2 started when Wolverine remembered who he was.

[The Adventurer]

IMO, this "event" has basicly done everything that's WRONG with intercompany crossovers.

For one very nearly requiring you to read all the minis and tie in issues to get the ENTIRE plot, with the core mini only recaping everything as it happens. Next, the fact that it's tieing up many regular books with the event and the fall out, many of those series don't need this event to keep sales, and in fact this can hurt sales by mucking up story pacing.

Next, the fact is, the "Alternate Timeline" (yeah yeah, I know) thing has been done before with better (and worse) results.

Basicly the story is tired and cliche, the number of books it pushes and ties up is unweldly, and ultimatly it's forgetable.


Infinite Crisis is getting it right, you've got 4 core self contained minies, a few odd tie in issues to flesh out a few things, but are not essential (except in the 'Sacrafice' cock up that wasn't intended) All leading in to another self contained mini series with it's unessential tie ins, finaly leading up to the EVENT and a final epiloge mini and sweeping changes accross most titles.

It sould be elegantly handled.

[Lord Grog]

I was completely bored by issue two, read issue 3, didn't buy it, and dropped it from my pull list. It's just more alternate reality BS IMO. I'm looking forward to seeing if they pull out some real changes like they said, but I'm doubting it.

[Beast]

Actually, you don't have to read all the tie-in books to get the whole story. The whole story is there in House of M #1-8. Now, if you want to explore the altered reality deeper, the tie-in books are there. But other than showcase the lives of the altered characters more, they're not necessary to read to follow the storyline. All the primary plot is featured in the main book it's self.

[The Adventurer]

Actually, you don't have to read all the tie-in books to get the whole story. The whole story is there in House of M #1-8. Now, if you want to explore the altered reality deeper, the tie-in books are there. But other than showcase the lives of the altered characters more, they're not necessary to read to follow the storyline. All the primary plot is featured in the main book it's self.

Right, but it's dry and bland, less a story and more a "this happened then this happened, and then this happened" recap series. You need the rest to have a STORY.

[Jake V]

Right, but it's dry and bland, less a story and more a "this happened then this happened, and then this happened" recap series. You need the rest to have a STORY.
You're not really reading the HoM mini are you? Absolutely nothing that has happened in any of the surrounding minis has been recapped in the HoM mini. It has its own narrative, it's own plot, and it's own purpose.

Then again, if you can provide an example to prove your point, I might be wrong.

[The Adventurer]

Ok, maybe I havn't read every single issue... but it was still rather dull from what I did read, (1, 4 and 5 I think)

[Jake V]

Ok, maybe I havn't read every single issue... but it was still rather dull from what I did read, (1, 4 and 5 I think)
Ok, you didn't like it. Just say that instead of making things up.

[Beast]

Ok, maybe I havn't read every single issue... but it was still rather dull from what I did read, (1, 4 and 5 I think)
Exactly. I concur with the honorable Jake V.

[Big E]

Why is the artwork in these issues and tie ins so horrible? Yuk. The only cool thing was that the Hulk ruled Austraila and found his long lost daughter- the scorpion. It kind of reminded me of Meet the Fockers. lol.

[NormanB]

Read all of the issues so far.

Not impressed at all.

It's like a big, lurching, slowly-paced What If? story.

I get my fix for this kind of stuff in Exiles, which is significantly more entertaining and better paced than HoM has been thus far.

[Shadow Crawler]

Reading the articles that came out before the miniseries started makes it sound different from what it actually is.
I love how articles and speculation made it sound like House of M would either kill or just erase characters from existance.

[protege]

Why is the artwork in these issues and tie ins so horrible? Yuk. The only cool thing was that the Hulk ruled Austraila and found his long lost daughter- the scorpion. It kind of reminded me of Meet the Fockers. lol.
Say what? And i droped House of M because i couldn't get into it.

[Big E]

Its was discovered that banner had a one night stand stand with scorp's mom back in the college years. Then it is revealved she is the hulk's daughter. How this is going to transfer over to the regular MU is anyones guess though. I always hoped that the hulkling would be the hulk's ospring. There is still the chance Betty's misscarired baby survived and that could be the hulkling.

[davros42]

I'm still reading and buying the main HoM title, more to see what happens than because it's any good. All in all, the story has been rather slow, rather dull... And is it just me or do some of the minis openly contradict what's going on the main title? Or is it just poor timing of events between the two?

It's a big, long, bloated What If. And like most What Ifs cool for like 5 minutes and then rather dull. If it pays off in the end, I might change my opinion...

And the X-books have needed revitalizing since like the mid 80's, not just since the mid 90's. :p

[Lord S]

Personally I haven't given up on HoM just yet...but it's definitely gone from a 'category 5' to a 3, for me. I was really counting on the demon Mephisto being involved...due to his involvement with Wanda and her children. He's always been a very intriguing character for me, and it would have been so cool to see him as the real force behind the scenes, but the events of HoM 6 quashed that hope, for good.

Still, I am curious to see what happens next week...as that will be the make or break issue for most people. I just hope it's not Xavier behind everything (Onslaught reborn) or another episode of Wolverine vs Magneto. Zzzzzzzz...

[Alan2099]

I read two issues. I thought it was dull and nothing seemed to happen.

[SpecialAgentPunk]

the series picks up at issue 4, maybe 5 for most. That's way too long. I would say #1 is a good introduction, 2 & 3 are a waste of money.

I picked up HOM: Secret Files, which I think I could have done without. At the time, I had too much faith in HOM.

I'm following Incredible Hulk and Spider-man. Incredible Hulk is well worth your time - SM...maybe. The environment of Mutants over Saipiens is strong in Incredible Hulk and Spider-man, though.

Overall, the concept really isn't that interesting. What will come out of HOM is a few new villians, probably a few new titles, a loss of x-men related characters and that's about it. It's not the hype Bendis claimed it was. I don't understand why HOM was given the attention when Daredevil should have had it.

Infinite Crisis is much more enticing.

[StoneGold]

Ok, did read, (1, 4 and 5 I think)
I just read sections 1, 4 and 5 of your post. Didn't read too good.

[jetter_cheeze]

it can be billed as a new avengers/ astonishing x-men croosover because it involves wolverine, and since he is on both teams, it can be double billed and sold to that many more people....

[Red State Cap]

it can be billed as a new avengers/ astonishing x-men croosover because it involves wolverine, and since he is on both teams, it can be double billed and sold to that many more people....
Yep. Great cynical move by Marvel. Perhaps they will also add the same tagline to future Wolverine and X-Men titles. The Amazing X-Men, featuring the New Avengers! In other words, Wolverine.
On the other hand, I think this may backfire on them to some extent. Marvel billed HoM as a crossover with New Avengers, when in fact it is not. Not even close. So yes, Marvel did pick up some Avengers-fan business which would not usually pick up an X-men book, which is what HoM is. I admit that I bought through issue #5, thinking that, perhaps, it might actually turn out to be an X-men/Avengers crossover mini. At this point I'm fairly ticked that I spent $15 on the first 5 issues.
In the future, I will not buy a Marvel product until I've seen the enough of the product to tell that it is as advertised. So, yeah, they made $15 off me that they might not have otherwise, and they also cost themselves an undetermined amount of money in the future (probably quite a bit more than $15) as a result.

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[Jake V]

Yep. Great cynical move by Marvel. Perhaps they will also add the same tagline to future Wolverine and X-Men titles. The Amazing X-Men, featuring the New Avengers! In other words, Wolverine.
On the other hand, I think this may backfire on them to some extent. Marvel billed HoM as a crossover with New Avengers, when in fact it is not. Not even close. So yes, Marvel did pick up some Avengers-fan business which would not usually pick up an X-men book, which is what HoM is. I admit that I bought through issue #5, thinking that, perhaps, it might actually turn out to be an X-men/Avengers crossover mini. At this point I'm fairly ticked that I spent $15 on the first 5 issues.
In the future, I will not buy a Marvel product until I've seen the enough of the product to tell that it is as advertised. So, yeah, they made $15 off me that they might not have otherwise, and they also cost themselves an undetermined amount of money in the future (probably quite a bit more than $15) as a result.

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It's got Luke Cage playing an important role, as well as Spider-Man and Spider-Woman front and center. Over on the Astonishing X-Men side, they only have Cyclops, Emma Frost and barely Shadowcat. They both share Wolverine.

I count 3 New Avengers (4 if you count Hawkeye's appearance) and 3 Astonishing X-Men. Plus Wolverine. Looks like equal representation to me.

[Red State Cap]

It's got Luke Cage playing an important role, as well as Spider-Man and Spider-Woman front and center. Over on the Astonishing X-Men side, they only have Cyclops, Emma Frost and barely Shadowcat. They both share Wolverine.
I count 3 New Avengers (4 if you count Hawkeye's appearance) and 3 Astonishing X-Men. Plus Wolverine. Looks like equal representation to me.
Luke Cage has at best a token role in HoM. He does lead a criminal/resistance organization, but in terms of the HoM plot there are two major characters: Wolverine and Emma, both X-men.
Spider-Man does get attention, but does not really play a central role in the plot of HoM. Additionally, Spider-Man has been an Avenger for all of 9 issues.
Spiderwoman has no role besides playing devil's advocate for a few panels in #6. Not important at all compared to the central characters.
What we have here is token appearances and roles filled by some very short-time Avengers, and the main dramatic roles occupied by important and long-serving X-Men. The long-serving Avengers -- notably Captain America and Iron Man -- have played exactly zero role thus far in the HoM mini.
You and I both know that Wolverine is an X-Man first, last, and always. I am opposed to the fact that Mr. Bendis has inflicted Wolverine on the Avengers, and I know plenty of Avengers fans feel the same way. Wolverine has been an Avenger for what, 5 issues, and an X-man for 30 years.
In this case equal numbers is not the same as equal importance. This is a Wolverine/X-Men mini, plain and simple.

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[Twigglet]

Luke Cage has at best a token role in HoM. He does lead a criminal/resistance organization, but in terms of the HoM plot there are two major characters: Wolverine and Emma, both X-men.
Spider-Man does get attention, but does not really play a central role in the plot of HoM. Additionally, Spider-Man has been an Avenger for all of 9 issues.
Spiderwoman has no role besides playing devil's advocate for a few panels in #6. Not important at all compared to the central characters.
What we have here is token appearances and roles filled by some very short-time Avengers, and the main dramatic roles occupied by important and long-serving X-Men. The long-serving Avengers -- notably Captain America and Iron Man -- have played exactly zero role thus far in the HoM mini.
You and I both know that Wolverine is an X-Man first, last, and always. I am opposed to the fact that Mr. Bendis has inflicted Wolverine on the Avengers, and I know plenty of Avengers fans feel the same way. Wolverine has been an Avenger for what, 5 issues, and an X-man for 30 years.
In this case equal numbers is not the same as equal importance. This is a Wolverine/X-Men mini, plain and simple.

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But this was billed as a NEW Avnegers crossover, I don't care if they've only been Avengers for a short while, Luke Cage is an important part in this crossover, so is Spider-woman and Spider-man, Wolverine is also a New Avenger.

I imagine this does tie in to New Avengers as well, as the next New Avengers arc is spinning out from HOM.

So far I've really liked the event, an if you went into the event with an open mind, you might do to. If you read 1,4,5 and then criticize it for something it obviously isn't then odds are you're not open minded.

I much prefer the way this is working the Infinite Crisis AKA you muct buy Identiy Crisis, as the new DC direction spins out from this, and also Countdown to Infinite Crisis, also 4 mini series will be leading up infinite crisis while some crossover into other titles randomly and most of the time disrupting stories., you also can't read some of these titles on their own, as the storyline will continue in another 4 books (OMAC) also this is a continuation from the original crisis. By the way when this is finished, it will probably affect you're DC books by juming ahead a year later. Then you will need to shell out every week to get the series 52 explaining whats happening!

[Gilda Dent]

I'm thoroughly enjoying it, and the tie-in minis are a blast, but then again, I love alternate timeline stuff. I'm getting the same pleasure from the alternate univererse/timeline stuff in Superman/Batman.

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[Red State Cap]

But this was billed as a NEW Avnegers crossover, I don't care if they've only been Avengers for a short while, Luke Cage is an important part in this crossover, so is Spider-woman and Spider-man, Wolverine is also a New Avenger...So far I've really liked the event, an if you went into the event with an open mind, you might do to. If you read 1,4,5 and then criticize it for something it obviously isn't then odds are you're not open minded.

It was BILLED as a New Avengers crossover, and it ISN'T. It's an X-Men book with some Avengers filling cameo roles. I really don't see how you can contend that the Avengers are playing meaningful roles in the story.
I did start HoM with an open mind--that's why I *bought* issues 1-5. Dropped it at #5 because when I read #6 (didn't buy) it finally dawned on me that the Avengers weren't playing any more of a role than they had in the first 5, which is to say none.

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[illusion]

I have bought and read just about everything that is HOM related. (silly me) on reading the lead up in Excaliber and the first issue I was practicly jumping up and down in my chair. Finally something big is going to happen I thought to myself.
Then I opened issue 2 red flashing light and sirens went off in my head Alternate reality alert. I have no strong objections to alternate realitys however they do feature very strongly in recent big events.
now events here are going to have an impact on normal reality fair enough but I find myself not as emoitional attached to these charecters as I am to the normal ones if that makes senceso anything that hapens right now has less effect.
I total agree that it has just turned into a big Wolverine outing something I am not overly happy about (can anyone else say OVER EXPOSED) wonder why he sugested not bringing Cap in. could it be that Cap may of been a voice of reason. (wow never thought I'D say that)
I have to say that the tie ins are very disorgonised some making no sence whatsoever.
on the whole not a very happy bunny with this at all

right rant over

[Babylon23]

I gave up with issue 4. The series wasn't holding my attention. Even the return of Hawkeye couldn't keep me reading.

The tie-in books have also annoyed me. The Winter Soldier story in Cap and the Purple Man story in Thunderbolts were disrupted because of this, which was fraustrating. Uncanny was also affected, but Claremont seems to be tying HoM into his existing plans, so it hasn't annoyed me as much.

However, my lack of interest may also be the result of my dislike for New Avengers and Astonishing X-Men, and my annoyance at the treatment of the Scarlet Witch over the past 12 months.