View Full Version : Ed McGuiness RUMOR
sixstringguild
09-19-2005, 09:42 AM
I'm listening to the latest Comic Geek Speak Podcast and one of the guys said they heard around the grapevine at the Baltimore con that Ed McGuiness was leaving DC for Marvel at some point. He went on to say that this is just a rumor and can't be confirmed but it was something he heard. Thought I'd pass that around here just to see what you all think.
thik_3rd
09-19-2005, 10:27 AM
that'd be cool. does he have a book after loeb leaves s/b?
TimmyTony
09-19-2005, 10:47 AM
NEW AVENGERS!!!!
(please?)
marvelboy
09-19-2005, 11:23 AM
impossible,mcguiness has stated before he only likes DC charactors and would not trade that for anything.
Rasputin
09-19-2005, 12:09 PM
True or not, I would love to see a McGuiness Thor!
Titan Slade
09-19-2005, 05:19 PM
I think McGuiness and a high profile writer would be the perfect creative team to bring back the original Alpha Flight in a new monthly title. McGuiness drew the best version of Sasquatch I have ever seen in Deadpool #1.
Doom Hammer
09-19-2005, 06:49 PM
impossible,mcguiness has stated before he only likes DC charactors and would not trade that for anything.
It'd be cool if you could back that up.
Seeing as how he's one of my favorite artists, and he got his start on (pretty much) my favorite character's book, I have a hard time accepting that. It'd make me too sad.
impossible,mcguiness has stated before he only likes DC charactors and would not trade that for anything.
Give him a few more zeros on a check, I'm sure Marvel will be his favorite comic book company soon enough...
Jake V
09-19-2005, 07:25 PM
Give him a few more zeros on a check, I'm sure Marvel will be his favorite comic book company soon enough...
hehe. It DID seem to turn Loeb around.
hondobrode
09-20-2005, 07:34 AM
His work is really good.
It would sort of run parallel to Joe Mad's work.
Not sure if I could see him on Thor, but The Hulk would be great.
twilight
09-20-2005, 07:50 AM
I heard Loeb and Mcguiness are going to be working on the new 'Sentry/Moon Knight' series coming out next year :eek:
sixstringguild
09-20-2005, 07:54 AM
It'd be cool if you could back that up.
Actually, I was passing on something I heard on a Podcast where the MC was at the Baltimore Con and overheard "rumblings" about this. I could really care less either way...
DJ Rustbucket
09-20-2005, 08:41 AM
NEW AVENGERS!!!!
(please?)
That'd be friggin' sweet!
ChildOfTheDarkholde
09-20-2005, 08:56 AM
Makes sense, though I wish all these superstar artist and creators would actually work on titles that didn't really need them.
New Avengers will always sell reasonably well, but why not have McGuinnes in She-hulk or Marvel Team Up or New Thunderbolts, titles whose sales struggle?
Rasputin
09-20-2005, 08:57 AM
Not sure if I could see him on Thor, but The Hulk would be great.
Based on his Hawkman from Superman/Batman, I think he would make a sweet Thor. I agree about the Hulk.
marvelboy
09-20-2005, 09:32 AM
It'd be cool if you could back that up.
Seeing as how he's one of my favorite artists, and he got his start on (pretty much) my favorite character's book, I have a hard time accepting that. It'd make me too sad.
Go look up his interviews,he is along the same lines as tony daniel that have a proffesed love for DC charactors
marvelboy
09-20-2005, 09:32 AM
I heard Loeb and Mcguiness are going to be working on the new 'Sentry/Moon Knight' series coming out next year :eek:
Where did you hear that rumor from???
DJ Rustbucket
09-20-2005, 09:49 AM
Makes sense, though I wish all these superstar artist and creators would actually work on titles that didn't really need them.
New Avengers will always sell reasonably well, but why not have McGuinnes in She-hulk or Marvel Team Up or New Thunderbolts, titles whose sales struggle?
I agree with your titles, too. And how awesome would a McGuinness run on Cable/Deadpool be?
twilight
09-20-2005, 09:50 AM
Where did you hear that rumor from???
I made it up.
You may notice the similarites between Superman/Batman and Sentry/Moon Knight.
thik_3rd
09-20-2005, 10:26 AM
Go look up his interviews,he is along the same lines as tony daniel that have a proffesed love for DC charactors
whenever any creator gets signed to a deal with a company, they usually say something like that.
marvelboy
09-20-2005, 10:48 AM
Yeah but there is liking the company and the charactors and then there is the complete tougnebath treatment that these 2 gave in reference at being at DC.
Frank
09-20-2005, 02:21 PM
McGuiness working on New Avengers would be crap considering his cartoonish style. He would be more fit to be on Spidey.
ChildOfTheDarkholde
09-21-2005, 10:05 AM
McGuiness working on New Avengers would be crap considering his cartoonish style. He would be more fit to be on Spidey.\
But Madureira is even more cartoonish (IMO) and the previewed art for his ULTIMATES doesn't look bad...
I feel a New Avengers form Ed would rock...
Sharcque
09-21-2005, 11:58 PM
I think McGuiness and a high profile writer would be the perfect creative team to bring back the original Alpha Flight in a new monthly title. McGuiness drew the best version of Sasquatch I have ever seen in Deadpool #1.
That would rock!!! But I think the last Alpah Flight series may have done that title in for a long while.
Fooh01
09-22-2005, 01:01 AM
True or not, I would love to see a McGuiness Thor!
A guy could dream *drools at the thought*
Sentry
09-22-2005, 06:08 AM
i dont like the guys art, boring. nuff said!
Titan Slade
09-22-2005, 10:16 AM
i dont like the guys art, boring. nuff said!
Who pi$$ed on your head and told you it was raining this morning? You seem very grumpy.
Taskmaster
09-22-2005, 04:05 PM
This would be so awesome, i'd love to see McGuiness working on anyone and everyone in the Marvel Universe especially Thor, Sentry, Deadpool, Hulk, Captain America, etc. etc. etc.........:)
DJ Rustbucket
09-22-2005, 04:08 PM
Who pi$$ed on your head and told you it was raining this morning? You seem very grumpy.
Dude, that's friggin great!
marvelboy
09-22-2005, 04:31 PM
Tony Daniel would be a better get but he just signed with DC exclusive
Atom_basher
09-22-2005, 04:37 PM
Tony Daniel would be a better get but he just signed with DC exclusive
I think his work is rather terrible
Doom Hammer
09-23-2005, 03:53 PM
I've got a better one!
*Gasp!*
Ed McGuinnes on Cable and Deadpool!
I'm sure he wouldn't want to backtrack his career like that, but still, that'd be puh-retty sweet.
Frank
09-26-2005, 12:03 AM
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But Madureira is even more cartoonish (IMO) and the previewed art for his ULTIMATES doesn't look bad...
I feel a New Avengers form Ed would rock...
Dude, that`s a bad comparison, Joe Mad on Ultimates is hands-down the least appropriate choice there ever has been made to be on a book. I just don`t care for cartoony artists on such important books that needs drama and so forth. My choice would be Rags Moralez, if Marvel can get their hands on him.
Titan Slade
09-26-2005, 04:49 PM
Dude, that`s a bad comparison, Joe Mad on Ultimates is hands-down the least appropriate choice there ever has been made to be on a book.
Yeah, and he was a bad choice for the X-Men as well. His X-Men work sold like crap :rolleyes: .
RocketBoy
09-26-2005, 05:06 PM
His X-Men work sold like crap.
I've noticed you seem to often mistake sales figures with quality. Occasionally there is a correlation, but usually not. You do have a funny choice of words there, since selling "like crap" is particularly apropos when regarding Joe Mad's art.
Titan Slade
09-26-2005, 05:54 PM
I've noticed you seem to often mistake sales figures with quality. Occasionally there is a correlation, but usually not. You do have a funny choice of words there, since selling "like crap" is particularly apropos when regarding Joe Mad's art.
Fans vote with their wallets, and Madureira's work sells consistantly in the over 100K range. It's obvious he does quality work by his sales figures, not a few message board fanboy's dislike of his work. Quality is in the eye of the beholder, and it's obvious that more fans like, than dislike MAD's work ;) .
RocketBoy
09-26-2005, 07:06 PM
You know Young Blood #1 sold awefully well too (750k is the figure floating around out there). Still want to stick to your "If it sells well, it must be good" philosophy?
Titan Slade
09-26-2005, 07:10 PM
You know Young Blood #1 sold awefully well too (750k is the figure floating around out there). Still want to stick to your "If it sells well, it must be good" philosophy?
As I said, quality is in the eye of the beholder. While I don't like Liefeld's Youngblood, there are 1000's that do, hence the huge sales numbers. Whether you like Madureira's art or not, Marvel made a wise choice putting him on Ultimates, because it will keep the sales above it's current 100K mark. And by the way, I prefer him over Hitch, and Hitch is awesome but Mad is awesomer(is this a word? ;) ).
RocketBoy
09-26-2005, 09:33 PM
It's obvious he do;)es quality work by ;) his sales figures, ;) not a few message board fanboy's dislike of his w;)rk.
So therefore, Leifeld also obviously did quality work? Or are you also admitting that you are a pathetic "message board fanboy" for daring to dislike his work in light of his obvious success.
As for fan reaction to the Joe Mad news in my store, the general consesus from my customers is "Wow, I guess it really is the 90's again." That's from the adult customers, so maybe he'll be more popular with the young ones like he was when he showed up in the mid-90s.
thik_3rd
09-26-2005, 11:30 PM
thing is, even on message boards, joe mad is considered a great artist. you just have a really vocal minority.
RocketBoy
09-27-2005, 12:39 AM
Let me take a wild guess and say you really became comic readers in the early to mid 90s. Not to simply categorize anyone's views or anything, but it would go along with the vibe I get from my customers.
Frank
09-27-2005, 05:16 AM
Yeah, and he was a bad choice for the X-Men as well. His X-Men work sold like crap :rolleyes: .
He did solid work but these stories would have been better with a more dramatic/realistic artist. I think he trully shined when he did Battlechasers.
Sentry
09-27-2005, 06:27 AM
Who pi$$ed on your head and told you it was raining this morning? You seem very grumpy.
bah humbug.
Titan Slade
09-27-2005, 10:19 AM
Let me take a wild guess and say you really became comic readers in the early to mid 90s. Not to simply categorize anyone's views or anything, but it would go along with the vibe I get from my customers.
I am in my mid 30's and have been reading comic books since I was a teenager in the 80's, and have superb tastes in comic book art, which is why I prefer Madureira over Liefeld. But both guys do quality work, because both have 1000's of fans, and can get work in the industry whenever they want. And "again" I will type it so you can understand it, I said I don't like Liefeld's work much, but it is still "quality"(see above posts :rolleyes: ). Just because I or you mr.fanboy don't like it, it is still quality because 1000's of others do. So who is the fanboy? YOU, because I can distinguish the difference between quality from my own tastes, but you seem to lack the ability to do so.
Will.S
09-27-2005, 01:06 PM
I hope Ed comes back to Marvel to do something, his DC work has been amazing especially the Superman/Batman stuff.
Marvel Team-Up would be a perfect fit for him.
RocketBoy
09-29-2005, 11:58 PM
So who is the fanboy? YOU, because I can distinguish the difference between quality from my own tastes, but you seem to lack the ability to do so.
You had it right the first time when you said "quality is in the eye of the beholder." Which is to say there is no such thing as quality, per se. That has been my point all along. Everybody's individual taste is completely up to them. And I wouldn't still be in business as a retailer if I couldn't separate out my own tastes. Someone earlier stated that they did not think that JoeMad is a good artist, to which you responded (as you do every time someone disagrees on the JoeMad subject) that they were definitively wrong in that belief. I posted a similarly toned response to your post, and you responded by by calling me a snobbish fanboy. Do you see any irony there yet? I do.
Thanks, and good night.
Frank
09-30-2005, 09:52 AM
I hope Ed comes back to Marvel to do something, his DC work has been amazing especially the Superman/Batman stuff.
Marvel Team-Up would be a perfect fit for him.
I agree with Ed on Marvel Team-Up. But they should relaunch because the sales are in the 15 thousands.
EmmettHULK
09-30-2005, 10:15 AM
Fans vote with their wallets, and Madureira's work sells consistantly in the over 100K range. It's obvious he does quality work by his sales figures,.
But using that "sales-equals-quality" logic, then Dan Slott's She-Hulk would be a mediocre book, quality wise, wouldn't it?
Runaways too,
And Spider-Girl would be a crappy read...
TomGun13
09-30-2005, 07:08 PM
True or not, I would love to see a McGuiness Thor!
I met him in Toronto a few years back and he drew a head sketch of Thor for me. Had a good conversation with him. Great guy.
Optimus
10-01-2005, 07:22 PM
Tony Daniel would be a better get but he just signed with DC exclusive
Ugh. THIS GUY: http://www.parquegotico.com/images/viene/0204/thetenth.jpg
No thanks. He's got aspirations to be Michael Turner but is much closer to Rob Leifield. Seriously getting him exclusive is not a good thing. McGuinnes is so much better than that guy it's not even funny. McGuines would be the ideal replacement on Ultimate Spidey for when Bags leaves. He did a competent job on Superman/Batman, he could do anything. Young Avengers, New Avengers, New Thunderbolts, I'm sure there are a few of us who wouldn't mind him doing Cable/Deadpool...
Will.S
10-01-2005, 10:20 PM
I agree with Ed on Marvel Team-Up. But they should relaunch because the sales are in the 15 thousands.
Aw crap :(
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