Justice League Unlimited

[sschroeder]

The impression I got was that they were dreading answering Supes' question because of because of his name.

I know, I saw that too. But they were worried about changing future history at least twice in the episode, so they may have decided to keep something back. Or at least use that as an excuse.

Too bad we won't see Supergirl on the show anymore.

[Sean Walsh]

I thought he was!! Aw man :(

A lot of the people who work with him will be, but not Timm himself.

But according to a Newsarama interview today with Matt Wayne (who writes the penultimate episode of the series) he's working on some direct to video stuff that has yet to be announced. :)

[CDB]

Alright so there's at least hope it won't turn out to be another Teen Titans/ Batman production.

[ChaosBurnFlame]

http://comictoonsthatsuck.blogspot.com/2006/04/triple-post-sunday-jlu-far-from-home.html Review for 'Far From Home' available here.

[Crinos]

http://comictoonsthatsuck.blogspot.com/2006/04/triple-post-sunday-jlu-far-from-home.html Review for 'Far From Home' available here.

I'd also like to add that the Fatal Five, with the exception of the Empress and Persuader, didnt really do all that much.

Validus just did generic smash stuff, Tharok was just a dick, and Manos got KOed fifteen seconds into the fight.

Still, I did enjoy it somewhat.

[Arune Singh]

My TiVo didn't record it. And shows no upcoming showings of JLU. Crap.

[ChaosBurnFlame]

I'd also like to add that the Fatal Five, with the exception of the Empress and Persuader, didnt really do all that much.

Validus just did generic smash stuff, Tharok was just a dick, and Manos got KOed fifteen seconds into the fight.

Still, I did enjoy it somewhat.

If you'd like to add that, then comment on the blog.

[JKCarrier]

They did try to cram an awful lot into one episode. And they telegraphed the ending pretty blatantly: "Gee, Supergirl feels out of place in our primitive society, and history says she never came back from the 31st century. Gosh, I can't imagine where they're going with that!" :rolleyes:

But even with a kind of rushed/weak plot, it was still a fun episode. Good character bits and dialogue throughout, and it was fun to see the Legion in action. My favorite aspect? Bouncing Boy was treated with respect! I was sure when he introduced himself that someone would take a cheap shot at his name. But nope, he was treated just like any other hero, and he was right in there mixing it up with the bad guys. Cool. If only Matter-Eater Lad had shown up...

[Magneto_X]

Supergirl *really* impressed me when... she fought all the mind controlled LSH by herself. It was brutal, too. She sure made them work for the win.

I've always liked her, btw.

[titanfan]

Well that sucks, I really enjoyed her on the show.

Well there aren't that many episodes that she won't be around for. :P

[LordEd1976]

Can someone please explain how Cartoon Network can give us a nice brand new Justice League episode then next week have it disappear again so they can show Ultimate Avengers?!? I feel like I'm back in High School and the head cheerleader got my hopes up about a date only to say she's out of town next week.

[ChaosBurnFlame]

Can someone please explain how Cartoon Network can give us a nice brand new Justice League episode then next week have it disappear again so they can show Ultimate Avengers?!? I feel like I'm back in High School and the head cheerleader got my hopes up about a date only to say she's out of town next week.


A Note: No, Ultimate Avengers isn't any good either. Best keep the TV off that night.

[Bouncing Boy]

I really liked the Legion episode...of course I'm just glad Bouncing Boy got decent screen time.

[Legato]

Can someone please explain how Cartoon Network can give us a nice brand new Justice League episode then next week have it disappear again so they can show Ultimate Avengers?!? I feel like I'm back in High School and the head cheerleader got my hopes up about a date only to say she's out of town next week.


The CN folks are Dicks. Pretty simple answer.

[Donald Stone]

It kinda seems like, since this is the last season, the folks at CN are like "Eh, will show them whenever we get around to it, if we don't have something better to do."

[Spastic Minnow]

Never got into the Superman or JLA series and missed most of JLU because of that and it only barely registered with me that they made the original Supes Braniac blue, so I guess it makes sense that Brainiac 5 is blue as well... But it seems so wrong!

[Kevinroc]

My TiVo didn't record it. And shows no upcoming showings of JLU. Crap.

I have it recorded. If you want me to send you a tape or a recorded DVD or something, just PM me with the info to need and I'll send it to you.

[Michael P]

I really liked the Legion episode...of course I'm just glad Bouncing Boy got decent screen time.
Yeah, as soon as I saw Chuck, I knew you'd be getting a kick out of this ep.

[Bouncing Boy]

Yeah, as soon as I saw Chuck, I knew you'd be getting a kick out of this ep.

I litterally cheered when he said, "My name is Chuck Taine, code name Bouncing Boy." You know I just realized that He's the first Legionnaire to identify his real name and Code name on an animated series. In the Superman episode with the Legion, they were just identified as Cosmic Boy, Saturn Girl and Chameleon Boy. And Brainy didn't say what his real name was in this episode. I knew Chuck was going to be in the episode, and I don't have cable, so I took a tape over to my mom and step-dad's house, set the timer on their VCR and recorded it, and then watched it the next day, three times.

[CDB]

The CN folks are Dicks. Pretty simple answer.

Not as big as the folks from Nick. ;)

[Arune Singh]

I have it recorded. If you want me to send you a tape or a recorded DVD or something, just PM me with the info to need and I'll send it to you.

You complete me.

[Stretch Dude]

My TiVo didn't record it. And shows no upcoming showings of JLU. Crap.

"Ancient History" is airing April 29.

[Ravenheart]

"Ancient History" is airing April 29.


Its airing here in Canada on YTV on April 19th at 7PM and again on April 22 at 11AM :D

[Kevinroc]

You complete me.

Anything for Runedog. :)

So just send me a PM with your address and tell me what medium you want it recorded onto and I'll mail the episode to you.

[Ravenheart]

I got to watch the final 2 episodes,Alive and Destroyer last night and they were pretty good.The first half is pretty much all Secret Society and how they broke up but the big surprise was who showed up at the end of the episode.When you really think of it,if this is the end of the show there really couldn't be any other villain.One of the highlights for me was hearing Superman come as close to swearing as we'll ever hear,Lex Flipping Luthor :D The end of the show was pretty good with Batman being well,Batman.Its too bad its over because this was a really good show.

[west3man]

Can someone please explain how Cartoon Network can give us a nice brand new Justice League episode then next week have it disappear again so they can show Ultimate Avengers?!? I feel like I'm back in High School and the head cheerleader got my hopes up about a date only to say she's out of town next week.
Considering some of the parallels between the cartoon universe and the DCU, these days, I'm beginning to suspect that this may not all be Cartoon Network's doing. Isn't WB the parent company?


That said, I'd be kinda p.o.'ed if I'd paid $20-25 for Ultimate Avengers just for them to show it on television a couple of months, later, for free.

[ChaosBurnFlame]

Considering some of the parallels between the cartoon universe and the DCU, these days, I'm beginning to suspect that this may not all be Cartoon Network's doing. Isn't WB the parent company?


That said, I'd be kinda p.o.'ed if I'd paid $20-25 for Ultimate Avengers just for them to show it on television a couple of months, later, for free.
Only if you got cable TV for free :)

[Sean Walsh]

Considering some of the parallels between the cartoon universe and the DCU, these days, I'm beginning to suspect that this may not all be Cartoon Network's doing. Isn't WB the parent company?

Yes.

I had thought the guy heading up the LSH cartoon (which'll be on Kids WB, not CN) was a big exec at CN. He was the guy who had pretty much edged Timm out of the whole deal because this guy wanted to create a name for himself in comic book cartoons....and LSH was apparently it...

[ChaosBurnFlame]

Yes.

I had thought the guy heading up the LSH cartoon (which'll be on Kids WB, not CN) was a big exec at CN. He was the guy who had pretty much edged Timm out of the whole deal because this guy wanted to create a name for himself in comic book cartoons....and LSH was apparently it...
I haven't heard that rumor.

Where is your source?

[Young Avenger]

I just finished watching "Ancient History" and it was...meh. I didn't like how JLU make Shadow Thief into a wanna be of The Void.

[moon knight]

i only saw the last ten min of it. i thought it was okay i really dont care about the john/hawkgirl relationship though

[Chocolove]

Wow, GL practically has Hawkgirl on a leash. It was a decent resolution to at least one of the love triangles, for as much as that is worth, though clearly Shayera still desires John. The revelation of their future child didn't really help her any, but I had actually thought she'd been over him for awhile. Hawkman seems to have given up, so kudos to him. Shadow Thief was a decent plot device, as well. The Sentry comparison doesn't really hold since the 'you're my negative emotions/dark side!' is pretty much a cliche anyway. For me, any episode with Vixen can't be all bad; really dig the lady's powers.

[Legato]

Nice that they scrapped the Hawkman/Hawkgirl relationship. That whole reincarnation storyline was lame, like Timm couldn't have thought of a more creative way for them to get together than that.

Looks like thares still hope for Green Lanturn and Shayera. Although, as much as I want to have them get back together Im enjoying the chemistry between John and Vixen.

Any word on another season of JLU or is this the last one?

[Chocolove]

Nice that they scrapped the Hawkman/Hawkgirl relationship. That whole reincarnation storyline was lame, like Timm couldn't have thought of a more creative way for them to get together than that.

Looks like thares still hope for Green Lanturn and Shayera. Although, as much as I want to have them get back together Im enjoying the chemistry between John and Vixen.

Any word on another season of JLU or is this the last one?

This is the last one, I'm afraid.

[CDB]

This is the last one, I'm afraid.
He's right. Check out the World's Finest website. After this season that's it. No more *decent* DCAU shows!! The Batman doesn't count:rolleyes:

[Legato]

This is the last one, I'm afraid.

Well that sucks. It would suck even more if Timm doesn't give an actual conclusion to the relationship of Hawkgirl and John when the show ends.

[Lord Ichabod]

how many more episodes are left this season?

[moon knight]

i think two

[Chocolove]

how many more episodes are left this season?

There are two episodes left; both part of the series finale.

[Lord Ichabod]

that's a bummer. I'm quickly running out of things to watch on tv.

[CDB]

that's a bummer. I'm quickly running out of things to watch on tv.
Sadly you're not the only one...:(

[Aggie]

i like the bit of verbal sparing btw shayera and mari...given that hawkgirl usually does her fighting w/ her mace, it was a nice change of pace do kick ass w/ her wit...she's easily my favorite character on the roster...i think they did a great job w/ her characterization...that's what i love about this show...it has the best roles for women...and i think shayera in particular had the most layers and dimension than any other character...and it was pretty cool to see her relationship w/ john develop...i like the open ended resolution of tonight's ep....it was bittersweet...man, i'm really sad to see this show come to an end.

[Sean Walsh]

I haven't heard that rumor.

Where is your source?

That would be All the Rage, which ran this story a few months ago...



We Are Legion

This past weekend saw the US debut of “Divided We Fall”, the penultimate episode of this season’s Justice League Unlimited schedule of episodes. The episode was also screened at the convention to thunderous applause and reaction has been incredibly positive on the net. The season finale should air this Sunday, and having seen it already, I can tell you it’s not to be missed. It would have been the perfect coda for the Animated DCU. In fact, the past two seasons of JLU have been a testament to the creative vision of Paul Dini and Bruce Timm begun so many years ago in Batman: The Animated Series. There’s just been fantastic work from everyone involved with the show. And contrary to rumors you may have heard elsewhere, there will be a fifth season of JLU. A preview panel was held at the con, in which the show’s creative team discussed upcoming episodes dealing with the newly formed Legion of Doom, Hawkman, Warlord and the reappearance of the Legion of Superheroes.

However, the truly BIG news was not mentioned at the panel. The Legion of Superheroes appearance on JLU is no coincidence, and I've been told by reliable sources that a Legion of Superheroes animated series is set to go into production immediately after the completion of JLU. And most of JLU’s creative team will be moving over to the new LoSH series, with one major exception… Bruce Timm. The new LoSH series is being spearheaded by Sam Register, the Vice President of Cartoon Network. Rumor has it that Register feels Timm’s work is “tired and dated” and that the new LoSH series will be done in more of a Teen Titans style of animation rather than the classic Timm style.

There’s more… To further separate the two franchises, a major plot element from JLU is being ignored. In the new season, a JLU member will join the LoSH and stay in the future. But that character will not be appearing in the LoSH series. Instead, another DC “silver age” character will appear regularly. Additionally, there’s talk that Register will not renew Timm’s contract when it expires next year. Why? Well, from what I’ve heard Register is more concerned with creating his own legacy of shows… that he wants to be regarded in the same way as William Hanna and Joseph Barbera. The fact that most of you have no idea who he is should tell you how successful that’s been.

If Timm’s tenure at Warner Brothers Animation is in fact, coming to an end, it’s inconceivable that someone with that kind of talent will be unemployed for long. I’m sure DC would welcome Timm with open arms. And if Marvel wanted to make a smart move, they would swoop in and hire Timm to develop their properties into animated series…

[Hiffic]

Tired and dated? Seems pretty fresh to me. I really don't understand why Cartoon Network would drop such a good show. Granted this last season had nothing over the Cadmus epic, but it was still pretty solid compared to some of the other shows CN puts on air.

[Young Avenger]

tired and dated? Register cannot be serious. JLU looks better than almost every American cartoon on the air. If you ask me, he must have something against Timm if he is unwilling to renew his contract.

[west3man]

I just watched it.
Impressive stuff. Very impressive.


I'd say I'll miss it, but how do you miss what was hardly ever there?

[Sean Walsh]

I'd say I'll miss it, but how do you miss what was hardly ever there?

By having watched it since the beginning, when it was on continuously and when they actually ran reruns twice a week, and seeing it turn into a show that CN jerks around with it and cutting any and all reruns out of their schedule.

[west3man]

By having watched it since the beginning, when it was on continuously and when they actually ran reruns twice a week, and seeing it turn into a show that CN jerks around with it and cutting any and all reruns out of their schedule.
I guess I mourned its passing in stages some time, ago.
As you say, SOMEbody's been playing us for quite a while, now. I no longer get excited because Saturday's approaching. S'kinda sad, I guess.

The lack of reruns, as you also say, is pretty disappointing, as well.

[Deathstroke]

The episode was just okay, but I loved the last scene with Shayera sitting down next to Batman and saying "Tell me about my son."

[west3man]

The episode was just okay, but I loved the last scene with Shayera sitting down next to Batman and saying "Tell me about my son."
Didja notice how frigged-up Bats looked?

[ChaosBurnFlame]

I just finished watching "Ancient History" and it was...meh. I didn't like how JLU make Shadow Thief into a wanna be of The Void.


I'm glad I'm not the only one that saw it that way.

http://comictoonsthatsuck.blogspot.com/2006/04/jlu-episode-ancient-history-sucks.html

[west3man]

Luckily, I wasn't terribly familiar with either of'em.


Y'know, I just remembered something that I quickly forgot while enjoying the episode:

They never addressed the whole, "Were those memories real or was this another product of a defective piece of telepathic technology?" question.


Kinda odd, y'know?

[ChaosBurnFlame]

Luckily, I wasn't terribly familiar with either of'em.


Y'know, I just remembered something that I quickly forgot while enjoying the episode:

They never addressed the whole, "Were those memories real or was this another product of a defective piece of telepathic technology?" question.


Kinda odd, y'know?
It's Geoff Johns. What do you expect: Closure?

[Deathstroke]

Didja notice how frigged-up Bats looked?

I did notice that the cowl looked messed up.

[west3man]

It's Geoff Johns. What do you expect: Closure?
I'd expect the people who were the most skeptical to speak up in denial of the images they viewed/experienced or be humbled by their apparent veracity.

Johns wrote this? Hm. I didn't know that.

[ChaosBurnFlame]

I'd expect the people who were the most skeptical to speak up in denial of the images they viewed/experienced or be humbled by their apparent veracity.

Johns wrote this? Hm. I didn't know that.
Yes, this episode was written by Goeff Johns... apparently right after reading the new Sentry miniseries.

[GreenHornet]

Does anyone who of a website that 1 could catch up on shows they missed? Utube gots some but not all the new 1's

[west3man]

I did notice that the cowl looked messed up.
Yup. And his mug had a serious under-bite.

[LtMarvel]

Very nice episode. From Vixen and Hawkgirls' verbal jaunts (and Vixed throwing away a water bottle), to Vixen calling for Hawkgirl after John got kidnapped. The life in the past (Teth-Adam was mentioned!). Wow, I can't remember a character committing suicide on camera in a super-hero show. Great mixing the old Hawkman with the newer Hawkman.

[cappa donna]

Very nice episode. From Vixen and Hawkgirls' verbal jaunts (and Vixed throwing away a water bottle), to Vixen calling for Hawkgirl after John got kidnapped. The life in the past (Teth-Adam was mentioned!). Wow, I can't remember a character committing suicide on camera in a super-hero show. Great mixing the old Hawkman with the newer Hawkman.
This was probably the worst of the new episodes. Shadow Thief was a God. A friggin GL was helpless against him. It was toooooo unbelivable to enjoy.

[sgt.candy]

i hate not having dish. im missing all these episodes

[Sanagi]

An enjoyable episode, though predictable. Vixen's gotten a fair bit of the spotlight this season but I think she still deserves more. I'm basically thinking "awesome!" every time she uses an animal power.

[CDB]

Shadow Thief was a God. A friggin GL was helpless against him. It was toooooo unbelivable to enjoy.

The espiode was alright but yeah Shadow Thief had a huge jobber aura switched on in this epsiode.

[Magneto_X]

i hate not having dish. im missing all these episodes

I've got cable and I'm *still* missing episodes. At least I was able to watch the second last and the finale of this season on You Tube.

[Suzanne]

That would be All the Rage, which ran this story a few months ago...And it's just that folks -- a rumor. Dwayne McDuffie debunked this some time ago.

[Legato]

While the tv show will be gone soon will the comic still be published?

[LordAllMighty]

An enjoyable episode, though predictable. Vixen's gotten a fair bit of the spotlight this season but I think she still deserves more. I'm basically thinking "awesome!" every time she uses an animal power.

Agreed, JLU has really turned a C-list character into semi-major player in my eyes. There a lot of stuff a good writer could do with her abilities.

Which is cool :)

[west3man]

Agreed, JLU has really turned a C-list character into semi-major player in my eyes. There a lot of stuff a good writer could do with her abilities.

Which is cool :)
Gail's used her pretty well, as I recall.

But I dunno how often that's been. That's the downside of reading the INK off your frickin' comics. It seems that things have happened more often (or maybe more recently) than they actually did.

[Steve Brady]

Agreed, JLU has really turned a C-list character into semi-major player in my eyes. There a lot of stuff a good writer could do with her abilities.

Which is cool :)

Let's give some due credit to Gina Torres.

[Predator]

The latest episode was pretty bleh IMO. The new Hawkman isn't that interesting, and we still don't have an answer to the Hawkgirl/GL relationship. I'm just waiting for the final two episodes.

[dougiemccoy]

While the tv show will be gone soon will the comic still be published?
Not sure but I hope so...its one of my favorite comics

[sgt.candy]

I've got cable and I'm *still* missing episodes. At least I was able to watch the second last and the finale of this season on You Tube.im gonna try youtube. unless i can "aquire" them elsewhere

sad to see it go tho :(

[acagle7]

I liked this latest episode. I am really going to miss JLU.

[Patient Boy]

Watching the old Justice League and Unlimited episodes I remember how good this show really was. Shame it all has to end.

[Young Avenger]

Just finished watching Destroyer. It was an awesome episode. It's show action show be none in a cartoon. I really wish it was a 2-part episode. R.I.P JLU. It's been great.

[Sean Whitmore]

Heck, I forgot it's gonna be on tonight.

Best animated Superman scene EVER.


SEAN

[Young Avenger]

Heck, I forgot it's gonna be on tonight.

Best animated Superman scene EVER.


SEAN

The Superman scene was the greatest part of the episode. Never in my life have I seen Superman be such a badass. He totally owned Darkseid.

[blackdragon6]

`i saw this episode weeks ago on youtube.i couldn't belive i spoiled myself.i didn't think it was the REAL last episode.not a bad episode i just wish they went to a dvd movie finale instead.

[CDB]

Just finished watching Destroyer. It was an awesome episode. It's shows how action showed be done in a cartoon. I really wish it was a 2-part episode. R.I.P JLU. It's been great.

Fixed it for you.. And yes I agree. RIP JLU!!:)


And also:
THE GREATEST PUNCH ON T.V. EVER!!! :eek: (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jTUEdJc41Tg&search=Superman)

[NotSuper]

I'll greatly miss JLU and the entire Timmverse. I really wish a Legion series had been spun off with Supergirl on the team (it would've even tied in with the current comic). But those are the breaks.

What I enjoyed the most about the Timmverse was that in created a cohesive, singular universe with many different shows being a part of it (Batman, Superman, Batman Beyond, The Zeta Project, Static Shock, ect). With all the potential spin-offs it could conceivably go on for quite a while. Perhaps we will see one in a few years or less. I wouldn't be opposed to it, nor would I be one of the people saying "the old stuff was better." As long as they did things right I would be happy. Thanks for all the memories JLU.

RIP Timmverse 1992-2006
May you one day rise again.

[NotSuper]

Best animated Superman scene EVER.
Agreed. That was a huge mark-out moment for me.

[Wild Card]

Did anyone else notice that Ice change into her costume the same way that Iceman use to change in Spider-Man and His Amazing Friends? Also like how the Question just plow thu Para-Demons with a car.

[CDB]

Also like how the Question just plow thu Para-Demons with a car.

That was awesome.;)

[Mac Danny]

That was awesome.;)


Did you also like the nod to captain America, however grusome it was..

Fantastic Episode.

After we saw all the heroes running down the steps did anything else happen? my DVR cut off. I was wondering if they showed Lutor and Darkseid as part of the source wall.

-Dan

[CDB]

After we saw all the heroes running down the steps did anything else happen? my DVR cut off. I was wondering if they showed Lutor and Darkseid as part of the source wall.

-Dan

Nupe that was it.;)

[Steve Brady]

Did you also like the nod to captain America, however grusome it was..

Fantastic Episode.

After we saw all the heroes running down the steps did anything else happen? my DVR cut off. I was wondering if they showed Lutor and Darkseid as part of the source wall.

-Dan

The final shot is Batman's symbol filling the camera (as he runs towards it) taking us to black. Ending as it began.

[Ravenheart]

I've been sitting here watching Justice League Unlimited Vol.1 all weekend and was wondering if Bruce Timm was exclusively with DC?If he wasn't I wouldn't mind seeing him come out with a Marvel cartoon series.Maybe the Avengers or something.I mean with Timm involved it could only be better then the Avengers series from a few years ago.Maybe start with a solo hero like was done with Batman and then Superman.Just a thought.

[Kara Zor El]

Just finished watching them all back to back with Justice League Season Two. Both were absolutely fantastic but JLU takes the biscuit. The story arc with cadmus and Lex/B was incredible. The action all the way through was out of this world. I can't believe just how dark and violent the whole thing was.The Superman versus Captain Marvel fight for instance was breathtaking. The Hawkgirl plot was a great twist in JL season 2 and then well played out in JLU Season 1.
I can't wait for season 2.
I hope there are more Justice Lords eps.
JL Season one was ok but it lacked something. I enjoyed it but in comparison to its two predecessors it's a bit lame.
Any other fans out there.
Wasn't sure about the last episode Epilogue, because that seemed to be a Batman Beyond episode and not a very good one at that.

[captain_unimpressive]

You got the whole season on DVD?
All I can find is a single-disc edition that has The Return (the Amazo episode), For the Man Who Has Everything, and the Booster Gold episode.
But yeah, JLU may not have been as well-written, but I prefer it just for the fact that it featured the animation debut of every C-lister they could fit in.

And I suppose that the premise behind Epilogue was that, since Batman Beyond was the first appearance of the name "Justice League Unlimited", then they would take one extra episode to resolve that series.

[DrewTheXenocide]

While I do like 'em both, Justice League goes a tad bit too slow for my tastes. On the other hand, I wouldn't mind if JLU went a bit slower.

45 minutes would've been sweet.

[captain_unimpressive]

While I do like 'em both, Justice League goes a tad bit too slow for my tastes. On the other hand, I wouldn't mind if JLU went a bit slower.

45 minutes would've been sweet.

What would be really sweet is if Boomerang would air it beside the original JL.

By the way, do a lot of people get your signature?
It seems like a really obscure pun, and an even more obscure TV quote...

[Kara Zor El]

You got the whole season on DVD?
All I can find is a single-disc edition that has The Return (the Amazo episode), For the Man Who Has Everything, and the Booster Gold episode.
But yeah, JLU may not have been as well-written, but I prefer it just for the fact that it featured the animation debut of every C-lister they could fit in.

And I suppose that the premise behind Epilogue was that, since Batman Beyond was the first appearance of the name "Justice League Unlimited", then they would take one extra episode to resolve that series.

You can get the whole season in a box set. I never saw it on TV.
I watched the whole lot in about two days. Couldn't get enough. Season two is out soon.
The Return of Amazo Rocks.

[LtMarvel]

Epilogue was a treat as I missed that episode when it aired (thought the season was over, for some reason).

It was a season that started uneven, but finished very strong.

[Predator]

Has there been anymore word on the direct-to-DVD movies that Timm's gang is supposed to be involved in? I know they were going to do a Superman/Doomsday movie and an adaptation of DC: New Frontier.

[LtMarvel]

Check out the just-released DC solits for action figures based on this fall's Superman/Doomsday...

[DrewTheXenocide]

What would be really sweet is if Boomerang would air it beside the original JL.

By the way, do a lot of people get your signature?
It seems like a really obscure pun, and an even more obscure TV quote...

Heh. I have no idea, but I found it really funny. Understasnding Latin seperates boy nerds from man nerds.

Anyway, I just finished watching "The Call" epsidoes of Batman Beyond. Good stuff. C'mon Timm! Let's fill that space between!

[Kid Kyoto]

Just a heads up to Justice League fans.

[Sean Walsh]

I'm preparing a massive purchase at Amazon to celebrate this day. :)

[Howard Allan]

You can get the whole season in a box set. I never saw it on TV.
I watched the whole lot in about two days. Couldn't get enough. Season two is out soon.
The Return of Amazo Rocks.

I have all seasons of JL and JLU. I think I'll watch the series ending episodes right now.

[zeroEDGE]

Yay it's coming out tomorrow. I haven't seen this season yet so it's basically brand new to me.

[kalorama]

Got the new two-disc release yesterday. Watched most of it (except the final two episodes, which were the only ones I'd already seen on TV). It was good but not up to the quality of the first season. The high points (The Great Brain Robbery, Grude Match) weren't quite as good, and the season long through line about Luthor, Grodd, and the Secret Soociety wasn't quite as strong as the previous season's plot about Cadmus and Luthor/Braniac. Still great fun, though.

[Duy]

"Not as good" as the first season is still hella good.

[Mr. Kent]

i loved the Secret Society season! I think it was just as satisfying as/if not more-so than the Cadmus season (which isn't to say that one wasn't good. Actually, I'd have to say I liked the Cadmus season's finale a bit more than the Society season's, and the Supergirl-Galatea fight was just awesome. I need to get these DVDs...I still have only the first season!

[Grazzt]

I think that the big problem with the Secret Society season is that we never really get a good showdown between the Society and the JLU, ala "Panic In The Sky". I mean, what's the point in bringing all these villains together if you're just going to kill half of them before they even get a chance to fight the Justice League?

[Duy]

I think that the big problem with the Secret Society season is that we never really get a good showdown between the Society and the JLU, ala "Panic In The Sky". I mean, what's the point in bringing all these villains together if you're just going to kill half of them before they even get a chance to fight the Justice League?
To see THEM fight each other.

[SAMAS]

That's true. Much of the battle between the Secret Society had a level of brutality you don't see with heroes on the scene.

[GRANT!]

I think that the big problem with the Secret Society season is that we never really get a good showdown between the Society and the JLU, ala "Panic In The Sky". I mean, what's the point in bringing all these villains together if you're just going to kill half of them before they even get a chance to fight the Justice League?

It'd be fun to a full on JLU/Legion fight but I got more of kick out of seeing them team up with the League.

[LtMarvel]

Just watched the conclusion last night. Wow, just who died? Killer Moth/Hellgramite, Shade, Parasite and who else? The guy who threw bombs in his athletic outfit (don't know his name).

[Grazzt]

Just watched the conclusion last night. Wow, just who died? Killer Moth/Hellgramite, Shade, Parasite and who else? The guy who threw bombs in his athletic outfit (don't know his name).

I think it's implied that everybody shown in the episode who wasn't shown with Luthor at the end is dead now. That would mean Weather Wizard, Major Disaster, Lady Lunar, Blockbuster, Silver Banshee, Shade, KGBeast, Monocle, Bloodsport, Crowbar, Fastball, Dr. Cyber, Rampage, Hellgrammite, Key, and Copperhead all bit it, at least. In addition to Grodd and Tala, of course.

[yourverysilly]

How Frickin awesome is that wild cards episode? Fuck, I love that show.

[Agent Helix]

I thought Wild Cards was actually one of the weaker episodes of Season 2. It's got some good bits, and the Joker is always welcome, but it takes a while to get going, and the Royal Flush gang isn't actually very interesting. It's too scattered and directionless to be really great.

Now Twilight, A Better World, and Secret Society? Those are some great episodes from season 2.

[Bruce Wayne Jr.]

How Frickin awesome is that wild cards episode? Fuck, I love that show.

Absolutely one of the best, and an essential for continuity.


first appearance of the modern Royal Flush Gang, predating the Batman Beyond version
focus on the Gang's psychic Ten, who shows up later in JLU
first kiss between Green Lantern and Hawkgirl, which leads directly into Starcrossed


Great teamwork by the Justice League, big fight scenes, and perfect appearances by Harley and the Joker, who proves just how big a threat he can be. Plus I loved that acid trip scene towards the end; Joker at his most brutal!

Did you know the Royal Flush Gang is voiced by the group of actors who make up the Teen Titans?

[Agent Helix]

The psychic was Ace, not Ten. Ten was the big strong invulnerable guy.

[BatKnight89]

It was a very good show, but I think there were a few things they should've done with it. They missed a few opportunities.

Like they showed some of the classic justice society members once in a while in the back ground, they should've done a show just with them or have them with some of the JL.

Also, they should've shown the progression of Clark and Lois' relationship, since they meant to do it in the Superman series and didn't get a chance to, like in that last episode when he finally kissed her, they should've set some time aside to show this. They could have.

I still wish Hal would've been the main Green Lantern, and they should have had the real Hawkman and Hawkgirl. Not that crap they came up with.

Captian Marvel didn't do much either. some of the conspiracy theory stuff really got annoying after awhile.

[OverMaster]

It was a very good show, but I think there were a few things they should've done with it. They missed a few opportunities.

Like they showed some of the classic justice society members once in a while in the back ground, they should've done a show just with them or have them with some of the JL.

Also, they should've shown the progression of Clark and Lois' relationship, since they meant to do it in the Superman series and didn't get a chance to, like in that last episode when he finally kissed her, they should've set some time aside to show this. They could have.

I still wish Hal would've been the main Green Lantern, and they should have had the real Hawkman and Hawkgirl. Not that crap they came up with.

Captian Marvel didn't do much either. some of the conspiracy theory stuff really got annoying after awhile.

It took them too long to get the TV rights to Captain Marvel untangled, so it was not the TV crew's fault in that regard. Ditto for most of the Justice Society, IIRC.

I never found Hal too interesting, so I'm okay with John Stewart.

A focus on Superman/Lois would have made the show too Superman-centric.

[SAMAS]

It was a very good show, but I think there were a few things they should've done with it. They missed a few opportunities.

Like they showed some of the classic justice society members once in a while in the back ground, they should've done a show just with them or have them with some of the JL.

You mean like the Justice Guild episode(s), which were made so that they could feature them without killing them off?


Also, they should've shown the progression of Clark and Lois' relationship, since they meant to do it in the Superman series and didn't get a chance to, like in that last episode when he finally kissed her, they should've set some time aside to show this. They could have.

Well, I think they wanted to focus as much on all the other heroes they had, but they did show in JLU that they're pretty much officially dating.


I still wish Hal would've been the main Green Lantern, and they should have had the real Hawkman and Hawkgirl. Not that crap they came up with.

Hal is overrated. I think they went further with Stewart's characterization then they could have with Hal. And Hawkgirl, like much of the DCAU characters, was a bit of an amalgamation of the previous Hawkgirls/Hawkwomen. This may surprise you, but there is more to comics than the Silver Age stuff.

[BatKnight89]

It took them too long to get the TV rights to Captain Marvel untangled, so it was not the TV crew's fault in that regard. Ditto for most of the Justice Society, IIRC.

I never found Hal too interesting, so I'm okay with John Stewart.

A focus on Superman/Lois would have made the show too Superman-centric.
The show tended to center on Supes anyway. They should have showed what happened with them, it would've been nice to see what was going on with the characters in their personal lives once in awhile. Stewart stinks by the way.

[BatKnight89]

You mean like the Justice Guild episode(s), which were made so that they could feature them without killing them off?



Well, I think they wanted to focus as much on all the other heroes they had, but they did show in JLU that they're pretty much officially dating.



Hal is overrated. I think they went further with Stewart's characterization then they could have with Hal. And Hawkgirl, like much of the DCAU characters, was a bit of an amalgamation of the previous Hawkgirls/Hawkwomen. This may surprise you, but there is more to comics than the Silver Age stuff.I'm talking about the characters not just the silver age stuff, so shove it. Get over the additude. stupid stewart got put in 'cause of affirmitive action in cartoons, they don't wanna upset anyone, well too bad, you can't just put in black characters so noone gets upset, if they don't like it too bad, everything doesn't have to be centered around them and be tip toed around, I've had enough of that.

and what they did with hawkgirl was a crime.

[Stretch Dude]

Get over the additude.

Uh...huh.

You ever hear the phrase "practice what you preach"?

[Citizen V]

Im wondering this...Boomerang is showing episodes of Justice League.But it ends after the "Starcrossed" arc where Hawkgirl`s loyalty is tested.I think JL Unlimited begins afterword..yet its not aired.Why?

[Ekko]

I still wish Hal would've been the main Green Lantern,

I thought not having aquaman as a core member of the team was much more noticeable. Hal is a virtually unknown character outside of people who actually read comics. So they essentially replaced a minor character with a small cult following for another minor character to try to appeal to a broader audience, knowing it wouldn't sacrifice their core audience. I think it was a pretty sound decision.

[Astonishing X-Fan]

"and what they did with hawkgirl was a crime."

Yeah, damn them for making a complex, deep, flawed but likeable character who truly earned a role as one of the big seven. Such a disgrace to the character.

Staying "true" to the comics isn't always GOOD. Look at the Timmverse versions of Mr. Freeze or Poison Ivy. If it weren't for the DCAU, they wouldn't be a-list Batman villains in the books today.

[Duy]

"and what they did with hawkgirl was a crime."

Yeah, damn them for making a complex, deep, flawed but likeable character who truly earned a role as one of the big seven. Such a disgrace to the character.

Staying "true" to the comics isn't always GOOD. Look at the Timmverse versions of Mr. Freeze or Poison Ivy. If it weren't for the DCAU, they wouldn't be a-list Batman villains in the books today.
Most, if not all of my non-comic reading friends who fell in love with the Justice League cartoons, named Hawkgirl and Flash as their favorite characters on the show.

Hawkgirl on JLU has been so much better than any incarnation of Hawkgirl I've ever read.

[BoosterBronze]

and what they did with hawkgirl was a crime.


I'm a lifelong comics fan, but I didn't give two shakes of a rat's damn about Hawkgirl before JLU. Now I count myself a fan.

[Wenatchee the Hatchet]

Ditto what BoosterBronze said and I apply that to the Flash, too. In fact before I saw JL/JLU the three characters I thought were essentially lame were Flash, any Hawk-character, and Wonder Woman but the cartoons got me to like all those characters. Sure, I'm still a Batman and Spiderman fan at heart but the cartoons got me to understand why anyone would like Flash, Hawkgirl, or Wonder Woman. If a cartoon can get you to see why someone might like a character you used to hate and even get YOU to like that character I'd say it's not only not a crime but proof that someone gets the character's real appeal.

[kalorama]

I'm talking about the characters not just the silver age stuff, so shove it. Get over the additude. stupid stewart got put in 'cause of affirmitive action in cartoons, they don't wanna upset anyone, well too bad, you can't just put in black characters so noone gets upset, if they don't like it too bad, everything doesn't have to be centered around them and be tip toed around, I've had enough of that.

And who, exactly, are "they"?

[kalorama]

I thought not having aquaman as a core member of the team was much more noticeable. Hal is a virtually unknown character outside of people who actually read comics. So they essentially replaced a minor character with a small cult following for another minor character to try to appeal to a broader audience, knowing it wouldn't sacrifice their core audience. I think it was a pretty sound decision.

That was part of it, but I think Aquaman's exclusion was also well-considered from a story perspective. There's a limit to what can be done with him in the format of a half-hour TV show in a story that doesn't take place in the ocean or center around Atlantis. In any other setting, he's really a fish out of water, so to speak.

[SAMAS]

I'm talking about the characters not just the silver age stuff, so shove it. Get over the additude. stupid stewart got put in 'cause of affirmitive action in cartoons, they don't wanna upset anyone, well too bad, you can't just put in black characters so noone gets upset, if they don't like it too bad, everything doesn't have to be centered around them and be tip toed around, I've had enough of that.

and what they did with hawkgirl was a crime.

I disagree, especially on the last part. (what was so bad about Hawkgirl?)

Yeah, they went with Stewart for diversity's sake, but they didn't ever use him as Captain Ethnic. He was a fully realized and developed character, and got an assload of character development over the course of the series.

And most importantly(IMO, at least), his being black had no bearing on pretty much anything in the series, save for one joke in the Justice Guild episode.

[LtMarvel]

Because of the ending* of the Justice Guild storyline, DC wouldn't let the animators use the Justice Society.


*Where it is revealed that the Justice Guild isn't real.

[Erik Lehnsherr]

I want more Huntress and Question intereaction. NOW!

[Wenatchee the Hatchet]

Question and Huntress were both great. The only thing more astonishing to me than how weird Q was that he got Huntress as his girlfriend. Huntress! That I wouldn't have seen coming, ever.

[SAMAS]

I want more Huntress and Question intereaction. NOW!

You know the Question is Renee Montoya now, right? :D

[Cyke]

Count me in as a fan of Hawkgirl, too. The show's treatment of the character is a textbook example of how to take a crappy comic character, give her a much-needed overhaul, and turn her into a true, well-written character.

Like a whole lot of other people, when JL started, I thought Wonder Woman was vastly superior to Hawkgirl. Then, over time, I just started enjoying her more and more, and was very shocked and saddened when Starcrossed came. If you find yourself in such a state, you know you care for the character.

For that matter, put me down in support of Stewart as well. He's been a stalwart, dependable supporting player in the DCU, which transfers over very well in the cartoon. Batman may have been the planner, Superman the figurehead, and J'onn the thinker, but on the field, Stewart was the go-to field leader. Gotta love that division right there, especially whenever his ego clashed with Batman's.

[Van Custo]

The episode where Wonder Woman fights Hawkgirl and Green Lantern's gf both at the same time is great. That scene with Diana whooping ass left and right was bad-fuckin-ass.

[Erebus]

The never denied that the reason they used John Stewart instead of Hal Jordan was to expand the ethnic diversity of the league. It was intentional, because they didn't want angry pissed-off politically correct nutjobs sueing.

[Typo Lad]

Actually, they said it was because they didn't want it to be white guys in tights. No one forced it on them, it was a creative decision.

[Sanagi]

And it was a good choice. Even if they did make John Stewart dress like Shaft in his first starring episode.

[LtMarvel]

The never denied that the reason they used John Stewart instead of Hal Jordan was to expand the ethnic diversity of the league. It was intentional, because they didn't want angry pissed-off politically correct nutjobs sueing.
They wanted a Justice League that looked like America, yet still was true to the comics. John Stewart was a brilliant choice.

[Sanagi]

Also, picking John Stewart as GL allowed them a lot of flexibility in writing the character however they wanted, because he's never really had a consistent persona in the comics.

[Patient Boy]

I find it interesting that since the end of JLU, an incarnation of the League has been seen on Smallville, and will also make an appearance on The Batman. It seems to me that DC (or the CW, or whoever) is testing the waters for a revival (in one way or another) of a very successful franchise.

[Stretch Dude]

I find it interesting that since the end of JLU, an incarnation of the League has been seen on Smallville, and will also make an appearance on The Batman. It seems to me that DC (or the CW, or whoever) is testing the waters for a revival (in one way or another) of a very successful franchise.

Or they're just being jerks.

[CDB]

Or they're just being jerks.

Why is it that I believe this statement to be the right response.

[Duy]

Why is it that I believe this statement to be the right response.
Probably because there was no good reason that JLU didn't get renewed.