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CURSD BLADE
09-14-2005, 07:15 PM
Since it has been almost five years since 2001's revamp of most Marvel titles and the dawn of "New Marvel", which title, in your guy's opinions, has:

1)had the best 'revamp' (creative team change, IE: Jones/JRjr on Hulk)?
2)most improved by revamp
3)best mini
4)best new title launched
5)the best book over the past five years period
6)biggest breakout writer
7)biggest breakout penciler
8)best creative team of the past five years

My picks are as follows:
1) Brian Michael Bendis & Alex Maleev---Daredevil
2) Peter Milligan & Mike Allred---X-Force
3) Daredevil: Yellow (Lobe/Sale)
4) The Ultimates/V.2 (Millar/Hitch)
5) Daredevil
6) Brian Michael Bendis (Daredevil, Avengers, New Avengers, The Pulse, Alias, Powers, Spider-Woman: Origins, Ultimate Fantastic Four, Ultimate Spider-Man, Ultimate X-Men, Ultimate Team-Up, Ultimate Six, House of M)
7) David Finch (X-Men: Unlimited, Ultimate X-Men, Avengers, New Avengers, Moon Knight)
8) Brian Michael Bendis & Mark Bagley (Ultimate Spider-Man, The Pulse)

just for kicks and giggles, the my top 10 favorite marvel comics of the past five years:

1) Daredevil (Brian Michael Bendis/Alex Maleev)
2) The Ultimates (Mark Millar/Bryan Hitch)
3) Ultimate Spider-Man (Brian Michael Bendis/Mark Bagley)
4) New Avengers (Brian Michael Bendis/David Finch)
5) Supreme Power (JMS/Gary Frank)
6) X-Force/X-Statix (Peter Milligan/Mike Allred & Darwyn Cooke)
7) Amazing Spider-Man (JMS/John Romita Jr. & Mike Deodato Jr.)
8) Marvel Knights Spider-Man (Mark Millar/Terry Dodson & Frank Cho)
9) Ultimate X-Men (all runs)
10) Incredible Hulk (Bruce Jones/ John Romita Jr., Lee Weeks, Stuart Immonen, Mike Deodato Jr. & Darick Robertson)

Titan Slade
09-14-2005, 07:29 PM
1)had the best 'revamp' (creative team change, IE: Jones/JRjr on Hulk)?
2)most improved by revamp
3)best mini
4)best new title launched
5)the best book over the past five years period
6)biggest breakout writer
7)biggest breakout penciler
8)best creative team of the past five years


1)Johns/Coipel on Avengers(short as it was :( )
2)New Thunderbolts(like the current revamped roster better than the Busiek/Bagley roster).
3)the Giffen/DeMatteis/Maguire Defenders.
4)Young Avengers
5)Ultimates or Supreme Power
6)Dan Slott
7)Olivier Coipel
8)Millar/Hitch

Dead Man's Hand
09-14-2005, 07:34 PM
1) New X-Men
2) not sure atm
3) Born
4) Ultimates
5) Ultimates or Supreme Power
6) Brian K. Vaughn
7) Finch, I suppose
8) Millar/Hitch

streator
09-14-2005, 07:44 PM
Since it has been almost five years since 2001's revamp of most Marvel titles and the dawn of "New Marvel", which title, in your guy's opinions, has:

1)had the best 'revamp' (creative team change, IE: Jones/JRjr on Hulk)?
2)most improved by revamp
3)best mini
4)best new title launched
5)the best book over the past five years period
6)biggest breakout writer
7)biggest breakout penciler
8)best creative team of the past five years


1. new x-men, morrison and quitely.
2. peter parker, spider-man, when jenkins and buckingham took over with issue 20.
3. did marvel boy come out in 2000 or 1999? if 2000, then marvel boy. if not, then i would say madrox.
4. the ultimates.
5. the ultimates.
6. for marvel, bendis. second would be millar. third would be vaughn.
7. hitch. second would be cassaday, third would be sean phillips. maybe coipel at fourth.
8. hmm. millar and hitch. second would be morrison and quitely.

Lex
09-14-2005, 07:50 PM
Best Marvel books in the last 5 years: Runaways, She-Hulk and Young Avengers.

thik_3rd
09-14-2005, 08:16 PM
1)had the best 'revamp' - brubaker/epting captain america
2)most improved by revamp - same
3)best mini - so many choices. avengers/thunderbolts (shoutouts to gla, earth's mightiest heroes, 1602)
4)best new title launched - supreme power
5)the best book over the past five years period - consistently? fantastic four (waid & ringo)
6)biggest breakout writer - dan slott or brian k vaughan
7)biggest breakout penciler - ivan reis
8)best creative team of the past five years - johns/kollins

my top 10 favorite marvel comics from the past 5 years...

1. supreme power (jms/frank)
2. ultimate x-men (millar/various & vaughan/immonen and kubert)
3. fantastic four (waid/wieringo)
4. astonishing x-men (whedon/cassaday)
5. avengers (johns/various)
6. ultimates (millar/hitch)
7. captain america (brubaker/epting and lark)
8. young avengers (heinberg/cheung)
9. thor (jurgens/various)
10. marvel knights 4 (aguirre-sarcasso/various)

honorable mentions to runaways, she-hulk and iron man (miller/lucas)

Titan Slade
09-14-2005, 08:19 PM
1)
8)best creative team of the past five years - johns/kollins


You accidentally put best instead of worse next to Kolins name ;)

thik_3rd
09-14-2005, 08:24 PM
You accidentally put best instead of worse next to Kolins name ;)
if you want to deny yourself the pleasure of the best art out these days, go ahead.

Titan Slade
09-14-2005, 08:26 PM
if you want to deny yourself the pleasure of the best art out these days, go ahead.

Your sarcasm is indeed funny :D .

CURSD BLADE
09-14-2005, 08:29 PM
Your sarcasm is indeed funny :D .

are you serious? Kollins is one of the best modern superhero artists around. His art is just so refreshing in an age of Jim Lee and Mike Turner copycats.

Titan Slade
09-14-2005, 08:40 PM
are you serious? Kollins is one of the best modern superhero artists around. His art is just so refreshing in an age of Jim Lee and Mike Turner copycats.

I am dead serious. His "no shading" style of comic book art lacks any detail and almost makes the characters look like stick figures. His old school Marvel stuff was ok, but his "no shading" style he developed while on the Flash for DC is very bland and ordinary. He is trying to coppy Jeff Dorrow's style, but doing a bad job of it.

thik_3rd
09-14-2005, 09:01 PM
I am dead serious. His "no shading" style of comic book art lacks any detail and almost makes the characters look like stick figures. His old school Marvel stuff was ok, but his "no shading" style he developed while on the Flash for DC is very bland and ordinary. He is trying to coppy Jeff Dorrow's style, but doing a bad job of it.
http://www.imakinarium.net/comic/ABC%20autores/K/Kollins%20Scott/3X3/7.jpg
that looks like stick figures?
http://home.bak.rr.com/birdsnest/stick_man.gif

Sir Tim Drake
09-14-2005, 09:20 PM
I am dead serious. His "no shading" style of comic book art lacks any detail and almost makes the characters look like stick figures. His old school Marvel stuff was ok, but his "no shading" style he developed while on the Flash for DC is very bland and ordinary. He is trying to coppy Jeff Dorrow's style, but doing a bad job of it.

Perhaps what he's really trying to copy is not Geof Darrow's style, but the style that influenced Geof Darrow (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ligne_claire):

http://www.lambiek.net/artists/floch_r/floch_dossierharding.jpg

http://www.lambiek.net/artists/herge/herge_kuifje2.jpg

http://www.lambiek.net/artists/martin_jacq/martin_lefranc.jpg

Titan Slade
09-14-2005, 09:25 PM
http://www.imakinarium.net/comic/ABC%20autores/K/Kollins%20Scott/3X3/7.jpg
that looks like stick figures?
http://home.bak.rr.com/birdsnest/stick_man.gif

I see you are now agreeing with me, good ;) . I knew i would win you over with the stick figure argument :D .

Christopher O
09-14-2005, 09:33 PM
1) New X-Men, Morrison/Quitely/Jiminez etc.
2) The Whole X-Men line was improved by Casey/Morrison/Claremont
3) House of M (I'm enjoying the story but Coipel's art really puts it at the top)
4) The Ultimates
5) The Ultimates
6) Bendis
7) Olivier Coipel or Bryan Hitch
8) Mark Millar and Bryan Hitch

My favorite titles of the last five years:

1) The Ultimates
2) Young Avengers
3) New X-Men (Morrison and co.)
4) Avengers (specifically Johns/Coipel)
5) Astonishing X-Men
6) Ultimate X-Men
7) X-Treme X-Men
8) Nightcrawler
9) Uncanny X-Men (Joe Casey/Sean Phillips etc)
10) Ultimate Fantastic Four

Ivan Isaacs
09-15-2005, 01:40 AM
1)had the best 'revamp' (creative team change, IE: Jones/JRjr on Hulk)?
2)most improved by revamp
3)best mini
4)best new title launched
5)the best book over the past five years period
6)biggest breakout writer
7)biggest breakout penciler
8)best creative team of the past five years


1) Captain America (went from awful to brilliant book)
2) Captain America
3) G.L.A.
4) She-Hulk and Young Avengers
5) Spider-Girl
6) Sean McKeever
7) Joshua Middleton (but that was thanks to CrossGen)
8) Dan Slott/Paul Pelletier/Rick Magyar/Wil Quintana on G.L.A and Exiles

Hombre
09-15-2005, 02:38 AM
1)had the best 'revamp' (creative team change, IE: Jones/JRjr on Hulk)?
Uncanny X-Men

2)most improved by revamp
Captain America

3)best mini
By far, the Crew

4)best new title launched
Cable & Deadpool

5)the best book over the past five years period
Black Panther Vol. 2 (1998-2003)

6)biggest breakout writer
Brian Bendis - best: Peter Milligan

7)biggest breakout penciler
John Cassaday - best: Andy Park

8)best creative team of the past five years
Claremont-Davis-Farmer

twilight
09-15-2005, 03:52 AM
1)had the best 'revamp' (creative team change, IE: Jones/JRjr on Hulk)?
2)most improved by revamp
3)best mini
4)best new title launched
5)the best book over the past five years period
6)biggest breakout writer
7)biggest breakout penciler
8)best creative team of the past five years

1)Ultimate X-men,Vaughn and Immonen are miles ahead of Bendis and Finch
2)New X Men
3)Marvel Boy
4)Runaways
5)Daredevil
6)Brian K Vaughn
7)Steve Mcniven
8)Bendis and Maleev

Frank
09-15-2005, 11:17 AM
The best book of the Nu Marvel era has been Alias.

That is all.

Flight
09-15-2005, 11:43 AM
1)Had the best 'revamp' Bendis/Maleev on Dardevil
2)Most improved by revamp Morrison/Quitely on New X-Men
3)Best Mini Spiderman/Human Torch
4)Best new title launched Runaways
5)The best book over the past five years period Daredevil
6)Biggest breakout writer Dan Slott
7)Biggest breakout penciler Finch
8)Best creative team of the past five years Bendis/Maleev

Andy S.
09-15-2005, 01:10 PM
(1)had the best 'revamp' – Amazing Spiderman – JMS/ JRJR
(2)most improved by revamp – Amazing Spiderman- JMS/JRJR
(3)best mini – Daredevil: Yellow - Loeb/Sale
(4)best new title launched – Ultimate Spiderman
(5)the best book over the past five years period – Runaways
(6)biggest breakout writer - Bendis
(7)biggest breakout penciler - Finch
(8)best creative team of the past five years – Bendis/Bagley- Ultimate Spiderman

my top 10 favorite marvel comics of the past five years:

1. Runaways
2. Amazing Spiderman
3. Ultimate Spiderman
4. GLA
5. Defenders (Giffen/Dematteis)
6. Incredible Hulk (Issues 24 - whenever the Jones run began to drag)
7. New X-men (when Morrison/Quitley started)
8. House of M
9. New Avengers
10. Ultimates

hondobrode
09-15-2005, 02:20 PM
[QUOTE=CURSD BLADE]

1)had the best 'revamp' (creative team change, IE: Jones/JRjr on Hulk)?

Captain America - Brubaker & Epting

2)most improved by revamp

Amazing Spider-Man by Straczynski & Romita Jr

3)best mini

X-Factor by Jeff Jensen & Arthur Ranson - How everybody missed this is beyond me, but it was how the whole mutant thing should be approached. These guys really GET it. Of course it failed saleswise since we haven't seen anything from either of these gentlemen since then... :mad:

4)best new title launched

Tie between Ultimates - Millar & Hitch, or Supreme Power - Straczynski & Frank

5)the best book over the past five years period

Didn't think it was possible, but yeah, as good as Franky, Dardevil - Bendis & Maleev

6)biggest breakout writer

Mike Millar

7)biggest breakout penciler

David Finch

8)best creative team of the past five years

Straczynski & Romita Jr

BlackKnight
09-15-2005, 02:22 PM
(1)had the best 'revamp' – Captain America
(2)most improved by revamp – Captain America
(3)best mini – Avengers/Thunderbolts or Beta Ray Bill
(4)best new title launched – Ultimates
(5)the best book over the past five years period – Astonishing X-Men
(6)biggest breakout writer - Oeming (man I really have enjoyed his thor and Beta Ray bill stuff) or Slott
(7)biggest breakout penciler - The guy who did THor Disassembled (damn I hate when I can't remember names)
(8)best creative team of the past five years – Millar/Hitch-Ultimates

my top 10 favorite marvel comics of the past five years:
1) Avengers (before Austen)
2) Captain America (both Kirkman and Brubaker)
3) Thor (Jurgens)
4) Astonishing X-Men
5) Beta Ray Bill
6) Avengers/Thunderbolts
7) Young Avengers
8) Uncanny X-Men (thank god no more black leather costumes)
9) Hulk (Peter David)
10) Hawkeye (yes I loved that series.)

Archyduke
09-15-2005, 03:54 PM
1)had the best 'revamp' (creative team change, IE: Jones/JRjr on Hulk)?
2)most improved by revamp
3)best mini
4)best new title launched
5)the best book over the past five years period
6)biggest breakout writer
7)biggest breakout penciler
8)best creative team of the past five years

1. Morrison/Quitely on New X-Men.
2. Milligan/Allred on X-Force.
3. Mirrison/Lee on Fantastic Four:1234 (2000, I *think*)
4. Runaways.
5. Bendis/Meleev on Daredevil.
6. Brian K. Vaughan.
7. Joshua Middleton.
8. Morrison/Quitely.