Ultimate X-Men #63 (Spoilers)

[Cayman]

This issue opens with Ultimate Jean Grey and Ultimate Cyclops staring at a mental image from Scott's past - he and Ultimate Lorna Dane crafting a valentine heart out of junkyard scrap. Jean says it's Scott's most vivid memory of Lorna. Scott says "Stay out of my past, Jean". Jean wonders why Scott has never told her about Lorna. Jean's worried Scott still has feeling for Lorna (well duh, she's a beautiful green-haired sylph) and whether Xavier sent Scott on this mission to keep him from trying to bust out Lorna himself. Scott has a zinger of his own to hurl back at Jean, but he quickly recants and they declare their love for each other.

The scene shifts to The Triskelion. Ultimate Nick Fury is escorting the latest detainee, Ultimate Longshot, down to his cell. Along the way, we see Ultimate Lady Deathstrike and Ultimate Mr. Sinister - but Fury tells Longshot that they keep the real threats downstairs.

Downstairs, Ultimate Magneto is playing chess with Lorna. Lorna accuses Mags of hating humans. Magneto replies that he doesn't kill humans out of hate - he kills them out of love, comparing his tactics to the use of the Atomic Bomb to end WWII. Magneto subtly manipulates Lorna's feelings, the sly dog.

Elsewhere, the New Mutants are on their way to rescue Lorna. Ultimate Nightcrawler appears and makes Ultimate Havok crash their car. The X-Men team of Cyclops, Nightcrawler, Ultimate Wolverine, Ultimate Kitty Pryde, and Ultimate Storm have arrived. Ultimate Cannonball gets a great scene where he rockets Wolverine off the playing field. Kitty goes to handle the remaining New Mutants, only to be clocked by Ultimate Northstar! Storm threatens Jean Paul, but is felled by Ultimate Sunspot, who is then blasted himself with Scott's optic beam.

Ultimate Havok emerges from the wreck of the car. Scott says "Give up, Alex. If you throw down now, it's gonna be to death." Havok's gonna throw down though.

But not until we get an interlude with Ultimate Angel and Ultimate Dazzler, who have cooked up their own plan to help rescue Lorna. Dazzler thinks that success could put her back in Xavier's good graces, but Warren has a bad feeling (possibly from reading the ominous letter column) that something awful's gonna happen. Kissing ensues.

Back to the fight between Cyclops and Havok! Of course, their powers cancel each other out, but Alex has a little trick up his sleeve called ULTIMATE LEAD PIPE! Havok thinks Scott let him when though, because Scott wants him to rescue Lorna. He and Jean Paul speed off.

Nightcrawler and Wolverine bamf back with a defeated Cannoball, to find their teammates and Roberto dusting off. "We got schooled" says Wolverine.

Alex and Jean Paul zoom past the police vehicle containing Ultimate Mystique and Ultimate Forge. Forge wants to waste them before they can screw up Magneto's plan, but Mystique reveals that "Northstar and Havok ARE the plan."

Scott communicates with Jean, but he's not exactly chomping at the bit to take down his brother. Jean says not to worry, she and Ultimate Iceman and Ultimate Colossus will be ready to intercept them. Colossus seems pleased that he'll be seeing Jean Paul again. Jean reminds him that they are there to prevent the New Mutants from reaching The Triskelion.

But who should appear in front of them but six members of The Ultimates! w00t!

SUMMARY: A great issue, it left me wanting the next issue right this minute. I appreciate how Vaughan gives everyone in the book their moment to shine. I would've liked to learn a bit more about Mystique though. The highlight for me were the scenes with Magneto. Vaughan portrays both his menacing nature and his charisma.

Cay

[thik_3rd]

man that last page was great wasn't it? i also like that establishing shot of the triskelion with iron man flying.

great issue 9/10. it's been a great week so far.

[Hi-Fi]

sounds awesome...can't wait to read it.

[Alpha to Omega]

My only problem with this issue is that Havok and Cannonball looked to much alike to the point where I thought it was Havok getting out of the car.

[Volk1]

Once again just another reason why I get sad when I realize Vaughan will be gone by the end of this....

I love the Cyke/Lorna/Jean thing going on, and I've got to say that Cyke is an excellent character in the Ult. universe, he's the same as 616 but he shines in the fact that it seems like he doesn't "sell-out" as much as he does in the 616 verse. I don't know if that makes sense or not but if you get my drift than cool....

It was also brought up that Scott may have purposely lost so that Alex could save Lorna...... but why??

I don't like the fact that Alex is the older brother, he even looks younger than Scott so I don't understand the turnaround......

The letter pasge brings us seemingly bad news for you Dazzler fans out there...the next ish iwll bring an "X-Man to near death" and that when someone brings up the future of Dazzler, the answer is ....."we'll find out in the next issue!!"....put 2 and 2 together....

I sure hope she doesn't bite the dust....she's one of the best overall made-over X-men and Vaughan has really giver her life, to think he would waste her would be not only surprising but apalling as well.......

[Cowlander]

Since youre reviewing an Ultimate title, why keep putting Ultimate in front of their names?

No opinion on the book, wont get my pull til next week. But reading your review that question kept popping in my head.

[Doom Hammer]

Cyclops getting his dome cracked by a tire iron was pretty hilarious.

Awesome issue! I can't wait 'til next month...I can see it now...the X-Men and the New Mutants versus the Ultimates...

Le squeal!

[Alpha to Omega]

Was anyone else surprised to see Sinister still alive? Also any guess's on what child he was talking about? Ultimate Cable maybe?

[Titan Slade]

Best X-Men title currently on the shelves 10/10 :) .

[Doom Hammer]

Was anyone else surprised to see Sinister still alive? Also any guess's on what child he was talking about? Ultimate Cable maybe?

Wouldn't that be something? Ultimate Cable's arrival coinciding approximately with Ultimate Deadpool's? ;)

[RandallFlagg19]

I just read issue 62 after not reading the title for a while. I was pleased with Vaughn's work, and I'm going to have to go back to the comic store and pick up issue 63.

[The Lucky One]

I sure hope she doesn't bite the dust....she's one of the best overall made-over X-men and Vaughan has really giver her life, to think he would waste her would be not only surprising but apalling as well.......

Well, since they said it would bring an X-Man to near death...
:rolleyes:

but Alex has a little trick up his sleeve called ULTIMATE LEAD PIPE!

Heh. Heh heh. Nice. But when are we going to meet the pipe's 616 counterpart?
:D

Nice issue, and like everyone, I'll be sorry to see Vaughn go. I'm also wondering about the anonymous tip Fury got about where to find Longshot. Two guesses:

1) Mystique did it. Forge could cobble together something to track Longshot down, no problem. Mystique did it not because she has any interest in Longshot being behind bars, but because she wants him close by when Magneto's sprung so they can use his luck to their advantage, and then recruit him to the Brotherhood. Sweeeeeeeeeet.

2) Dazzler did it. No idea how she'd know where Longshot was, but it'd fit in with her shady personality and the odd way she seemed to go from completely disagreeable to relatively docile; she's a plant at the mansion, with one of Forge's gizmos keeping her thoughts in positive territory around the Prof and Jean. Cozy up to Angel to get his trust, then use him to help spring Magneto for Mystique, as well as the guy she's really interested in: Longshot. That would fit in with the letter column response to the guy who loved Dazzler, telling him to see how he felt about her after next issue...

Hey, only time will tell.

-D

[We R. Venom]

so in ultimate havok is older? that was weird to find out. Also, cannonball did look like havok a bit and i was confused for a sec too. Their fight was weak as hell. but it is an interesting book.

[monkeyaxslash]

I just finish reading it and it was great. I didn't know that magneto's sun and that wich was in the ultimates

[streator]

can't wait for immonen on nextwave.

[Alphaxman]

It was a really good issue, but I would have like to see how Wolverine and Nightcrawler bet Cannonball especially when he was blasting. But that's a small thing.

Can Northstar fly or does he just run all the time? It will be neat to see who's faster between him and Quicksilver. I bet they will have Quicksilver being the faster of the two.

[Cayman]

I'm guessing that Kurt cleverly dressed up as Ultimate Lila Cheney and distracted Sam long enough for Wolverne to rough him up.

Cay

[Novaya Havoc]

You can't screw over Ultimate Dazzler. She's the only one who's really put pizzazz in the title, and has one of the flashier (though horribly underused) powers.

[Titan Slade]

You can't screw over Ultimate Dazzler. She's the only one who's really put pizzazz in the title, and has one of the flashier (though horribly underused) powers.

Well she uses her "powers" on Warren quite effectively each issue ;) .

[surt_son]

I had a dumb@ss moment when Dazzler called Angel "War", I had to stop for a sec. Wait, I thought he was Death not War. haha :D

Overall I really liked this issue and I'm looking forward to the next one.

~tim

[Tobias March]

I had a dumb@ss moment when Dazzler called Angel "War", I had to stop for a sec. Wait, I thought he was Death not War. haha :D

Overall I really liked this issue and I'm looking forward to the next one.

~tim

I had a similar moment in that last issue of Astonishing were Scott says 'War?' to Emma. After years of War being an affectionate nickname for Angel, well....one slips up occasionally.

Nice issue. Do peoples think Essex and Deathstrike are to be recruited? Wouldn't it be hypocritical of Mags to recruit humans to his cause?

[The Lucky One]

Do peoples think Essex and Deathstrike are to be recruited?

Not to Magneto's cause...

-D

[Beast]

Oh, since BKV.TV seems to be reporting a common printing error where Magneto's word balloons on panel 2 of page 12 are being cut off, Brian K. Vaughan posted the dialogue over on his site. I haven't seen anyone else mention it here, though.

Magneto: Similarly, when you or I take “innocent” human lives, we do so to spare the blood of our fellow mutants.

Magneto: We do so to show the people of this planet that our kind will NOT surrender quietly to their bullets, their poison gas, their SENTINELS.

[Cayman]

Oh, since BKV.TV seems to be reporting a common printing error where Magneto's word balloons on panel 2 of page 12 are being cut off, Brian K. Vaughan posted the dialogue over on his site. I haven't seen anyone else mention it here, though.

Magneto: Similarly, when you or I take “innocent” human lives, we do so to spare the blood of our fellow mutants.

Magneto: We do so to show the people of this planet that our kind will NOT surrender quietly to their bullets, their poison gas, their SENTINELS.

Mine was readable but cut pretty close to the top there.

Cay

[Flight]

Oh my god, Ultimate Havok rooooooooooooocks!!!!!

*READ THIS BOOK AND TAKE TIPS MILLIGAN*

First off, I think when they said Havok was older than Cyclops a while back, it was confirmed as a mistake...? I'm sure they meant to put younger but it came out wrong.
Secondly, how badass is Alex in the Ultimate Universe!! He announces that he ALWAYS wins their fights, then he SMACKS Cyclops over the head with a lead pipe! Ha! I love it!!!!
Its so obvious Northstar fancies him. Look at the way he's touching his bottom as he carries him...

Dazzler is so dead next issue.

And yes, I got the hint that Deathstrike, Sinister, Longshot & ... (Angel...?) are going to become Apocalypses groupies.

Ultimate X-Men is fab. Alex is such a rebel.

*YOU STILL READING MILLGAN?!*

[Beast]

Nope Flight, Havok in the Ultimate Universe is the older brother. Has been from the beginning. BKV even confirmed that it wasn't a mistake back when Havok first turned up. They wanted to avoid the 'Big Brother Scott' dynamic, and make Havok more independant, instead of trying to follow in his brother's footsteps. Which is great, Ultimate Havok is mucho preferred by at least this reader over the 616 version. :)

[Grazzt]

I wonder how long until Ultimate Northstar bites it. Considering how every other version of him seems to have died recently. :D

[fishtaco]

Nope Flight, Havok in the Ultimate Universe is the older brother. Has been from the beginning. BKV even confirmed that it wasn't a mistake back when Havok first turned up. They wanted to avoid the 'Big Brother Scott' dynamic, and make Havok more independant, instead of trying to follow in his brother's footsteps. Which is great, Ultimate Havok is mucho preferred by at least this reader over the 616 version. :)I dont read Ultimate X-Men (or Ultimate anything, for that matter), but is Ultimate Cyclops the same as 616 Havok in the older-younger brother dynamic)?

[Titan Slade]

I dont read Ultimate X-Men

Dude, you need to be reading it. It has great writing and art, and some of the Ultimate characters are written better than their 616 counterparts.

[thik_3rd]

Dude, you need to be reading it. It has great writing and art, and some of the Ultimate characters are written better than their 616 counterparts.
i don't know if i like any ultimate character more than their 616 counterpart, but ultimate x-men is the best comic out now since supreme power got killed.

[The Lucky One]

I dont read Ultimate X-Men (or Ultimate anything, for that matter), but is Ultimate Cyclops the same as 616 Havok in the older-younger brother dynamic)?

No, Ultimate Cyclops is pretty much the same as his 616 counterpart- calm, collected, in control of every situation except emotional ones, and basically just the coolest guy out there. Havok, however, is lots different- since UltiHavok isn't younger and doesn't look up to his brother, he's free of feeling like he's in Scott's shadow. He's a bit of a jerk because of it, but he's definitely not the same as 616 Alex.

-D

[Will.S]

Oh, since BKV.TV seems to be reporting a common printing error where Magneto's word balloons on panel 2 of page 12 are being cut off, Brian K. Vaughan posted the dialogue over on his site. I haven't seen anyone else mention it here, though.

Magneto: Similarly, when you or I take “innocent” human lives, we do so to spare the blood of our fellow mutants.

Magneto: We do so to show the people of this planet that our kind will NOT surrender quietly to their bullets, their poison gas, their SENTINELS.
I actually did notice that in my copy. I wish Marvel were more careful with the printing and layout since Magneto's most important lines in the book are somewhat cut off.

Anyway, another great issue. I can't wait to see the Ultimates kick these guys asses, for the first time I want mutants to get stomped out. The dynamic between Havok and Cyclops are interesting now that we know their backrounds more, it's odd to see Cyclops as the little brother but since it's the Ultimate universe it's a welcome change to make the characters interact on a different perspective.

BTW the scene in the X-Jet with Cyclops and Wolverine got a good chuckle out of me.

Angel and Dazzler make a cool couple, ever since Bendis introduced her a s a punk rocker with sass I've become a big fan. Vaughn just made her all the more better with great characterization.

The way the past villains of Brian Vaughn's run were in the prison was pretty cool, oh and Mystique is just so damn evil throughout the arc. Kudos to Stuart Immonen, he's been a fantastic artist throughout the run so I'm looking very forward to his Next Wave work to see his art fully unleashed.

9/10

[Novaya Havoc]

I think Angel will bite it next issue, and it will be all Dazzler's fault.

Angel is aching for it, considering he's such a one-note, "blah" character. Then it will change the team dynamic/opinion of Dazzler, and offer her more characterization.

I mean -- really -- why off the one character who is actually making an impression on the readers? She's the only Ultimate X-Man to really not register on the 616 readership's radar, and Angel has been nothing but droll since he was introduced.

Plus, it will open opportunities for Angel to be resurrected as Archangel, blah blah blah. Makes a lot more sense than Dazz dying.

But that's just my guesstimate.

-B

[Ryan K]

I really enjoyed this issue and for some reason Immonnen's art really clicked with me this issue. I really started to appreciate it. The pacing of the whole story feels perfect, which , IMO, is odd for a 5 issue arc.

Good issue.

[TJ Shoun]

i don't know if i like any ultimate character more than their 616 counterpart, but ultimate x-men is the best comic out now since supreme power got killed.


Supreme Power got canned?

[Cayman]

Supreme Power got canned?

It's just being relaunched under MK instead of MAX.

Cay

[Volk1]

I think Angel will bite it next issue, and it will be all Dazzler's fault.

Angel is aching for it, considering he's such a one-note, "blah" character. Then it will change the team dynamic/opinion of Dazzler, and offer her more characterization.

I mean -- really -- why off the one character who is actually making an impression on the readers? She's the only Ultimate X-Man to really not register on the 616 readership's radar, and Angel has been nothing but droll since he was introduced.

Plus, it will open opportunities for Angel to be resurrected as Archangel, blah blah blah. Makes a lot more sense than Dazz dying.

But that's just my guesstimate.

-B

This might make sense...therefore we get an upcoming Horsemen arc where Angel, Beast, and Gambit team up with the "child" Essex was mumbling about in his cell....the child being none other than Ultimate Cable!!!! An Apocalypse revival!!!!!!

That would be kick-ass.....the thing is who could pull that off other than Vaughan??

[Bart Simpson]

This might make sense...therefore we get an upcoming Horsemen arc where Angel, Beast, and Gambit team up with the "child" Essex was mumbling about in his cell....the child being none other than Ultimate Cable!!!! An Apocalypse revival!!!!!!

That would be kick-ass.....the thing is who could pull that off other than Vaughan??


Ultimate Cable? Please no. They need to not dilute the Ultimate Universe with all the future from the children and alternate reality crap.

[The Fury]

Right I liked this, better then other issues recently which I lost faith in. But BKV is a great writer and is doinf a big story for his last arc on teh book.

And cast of loads it is as well.

[thik_3rd]

Ultimate Cable? Please no. They need to not dilute the Ultimate Universe with all the future from the children and alternate reality crap.
i really doubt that if they brought in an ultimate cable they'd have alternate/future anything.

[Beast]

Yeah, just look at Ultimate Bishop. He's just some sort of X-Con, according to 'New Mutants'. :)

[Volk1]

Ultimate Cable? Please no. They need to not dilute the Ultimate Universe with all the future from the children and alternate reality crap.

Hell, I don't care if Cable is from the future, I don't want any of that in the Ult- verse, I don't even want aliens...if not Cable then who?

I think it would be interesting though to find out....but if dead is dead than I guess we'll never find out :(

[TheWolfOfAsgard]

An Ultimate Cable in this universe could simply be a kid with the genetic stucture to handle Apocalypse entering his body.

[Volk1]

Can somebody please help me out here? When Scoot and Logan are in the X-Jet, Cyke says "I love you too" in reference to Jean..Logan replies with "I hope you're not talking to me"...

Then we have a shot of the jet outside and a baloon saying "You know you're sitting in an ejector seat"...

Who' saying it? Cyce or Wolverine...I think ti's Wolvie emphasizing the prospect of that wayward comment but not sure....anyone?

[The Lucky One]

Cyclops said it. It's just a guy conversation- Logan makes a crack about Scott being in love with him, Scott threatens to eject him from the plane. Replace "ejector seat" with "car door" and you'd have every Friday of my last two years.

-D

[Doom Hammer]

By the way...

I knew the Ultimates would show up! I knew it!

Not that we all didn't, but...

That's gonna be off teh chain!!!!111 :o

[Fede]

I think Angel will bite it next issue, and it will be all Dazzler's fault.

....

Plus, it will open opportunities for Angel to be resurrected as Archangel, blah blah blah. Makes a lot more sense than Dazz dying.




that makes sense. someone pointed in other thread that he could be resurrected as one of apocalypse horsemen, along with beast and gambit. where the horsemen just 3?

[Brian M.]

What if both of them bite it. I mean Dazzler, Angel, Gambit and Beast as horsemen/women, that would be really cool.

[Beast]

that makes sense. someone pointed in other thread that he could be resurrected as one of apocalypse horsemen, along with beast and gambit. where the horsemen just 3?
There's always Sabretooth for the 4th Horseman also. :D

[The Lucky One]

where the horsemen just 3?

The, uh... four horsemen of the apocalypse? Revelations?
;)

"I looked, and beheld a pale horse. The man who sat on him was Death, and Hell followed close behind."

-D

[slively]

I think this is currently the best X title. It stunned me that Havok and Cyclops could hate each other to the point that one killing the other was the only acceptable solution for the two.

The contrast between them is interesting....where Cyclops is generally emotionally restrained, Havok is very emotional, extremely so at times.

I love this version of Dazzler the best. The punk attitude appeals to me.

BKV has quickly become my favorite writer - Ult X, Runaways, Ex Machina, and Y: the Last Man. It is extraordinary that he is writing so many excellent titles simultaneously. Many writers seem to find it difficult to write one :p

[Nyssane]

616 Horsemen, plz. kthx.

I've already given up hope of the original War and Famine ever returning in the regular Marvel Universe, so let me have my Ultimate War and Famine. ;_;

[darkchylde7]

Can Northstar fly or does he just run all the time? It will be neat to see who's faster between him and Quicksilver. I bet they will have Quicksilver being the faster of the two.

Jean-Paul is just a speedster, but i think the flight thing will kick in eventually. Maybe even his light powers. But is anyone else wondering where Aurora is? She works great as a unit with JP

[Gaveedra 6]

Jean-Paul is just a speedster, but i think the flight thing will kick in eventually. Maybe even his light powers. But is anyone else wondering where Aurora is? She works great as a unit with JP
Yeah, I've wondered where Aurora is too, since we were introduced to JP on a very personal sort of level, and he talks about his dad alot too. Where's his sis? I hope we get to have more Ultimate JP, so it can be explored. Maybe she's institutionalized somewhere, or maybe he doesn't even know about her.

[iceman rocks]

alex is the older brother O MY GOD are they stupid he doesnt suit being the oler one and anyway why they changing it even when these 60 whatever years he's been the baby brother fgod and i didnt like idea of lorna and scott dating years ago. yuk yuk yuk.

[Beast]

alex is the older brother O MY GOD are they stupid he doesnt suit being the oler one and anyway why they changing it even when these 60 whatever years he's been the baby brother fgod and i didnt like idea of lorna and scott dating years ago. yuk yuk yuk.
Different comic universe. He fits just fine being the younger brother. :)

[Alpha to Omega]

Yeah, I've wondered where Aurora is too, since we were introduced to JP on a very personal sort of level, and he talks about his dad alot too. Where's his sis? I hope we get to have more Ultimate JP, so it can be explored. Maybe she's institutionalized somewhere, or maybe he doesn't even know about her.

Maybe she's at that all-girl school run by Nuns in Quebec like the 616 Aurora?

[Beast]

Maybe she's at that all-girl school run by Nuns in Quebec like the 616 Aurora?
Maybe there is no Ultimate Aurora. Maybe Aurora is a split persona of Northstar in Ultimate X-Men. He's not really gay, he just has a female frature of his persona that flirts with Colossus and others. Now that would be a twist and a half. In fact, I think it could actually work on some level. :D

[darkchylde7]

Maybe there is no Ultimate Aurora. Maybe Aurora is a split persona of Northstar in Ultimate X-Men. He's not really gay, he just has a female frature of his persona that flirts with Colossus and others. Now that would be a twist and a half. In fact, I think it could actually work on some level. :D

Maybe so. Or perhaps Jeanne-Marie is Jean-Paul in drag